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I'm gonna do something weird. I'm I'm right back. I'm I'm I'm moving over. So we have an open microphone today. And so I'm gonna mute this, host microphone, and I'm gonna sit as a guest over there, and we're gonna talk like men. We're gonna talk. This is the time we're gonna talk like men. We're gonna talk like men. Every other time, we haven't been talking like men. Yeah. And it has everything to do with where Ben is sitting. Yeah. Yeah. Mike, you can give a shot. I think this is gonna be overall great. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm coming over. Bubba, talk about our Instagram. So, actually, we just got an Instagram. You can follow us now at live from the path. All one word, live from the path. You'll see us. If you do a follow our Facebook, it is the same picture from there.

And if you get on right now, you'll be part of the first followers of this account. So that's a big deal. We'd like to start giving you guys some content following, some people that kinda do more Instagram than Facebook. It's just an opportunity for us to, push them in a way that they wanna be pushed so we can start interacting with people who come on the show and that we know. So follow us just like you do on Facebook for some content. Yeah. Yeah. Push them. I like it. I don't know how to use the Instagram. Is it primarily pictures? Is that the deal? It is only picture. Well, pictures, videos. Yeah. Okay. Alright. This is gonna be good. So he… Okay. Here… Here's what we're tell you. This is a great show, fellas. The corona is is in full breath.

And so we were talking before the show that… I think I think we've just got some questions, and we thought this is a safe space. This is the place to ask the questions about the corona Right. And and talk about, like like, reasonable people. Because here's the deal with something like this. People are always talking to a vacuum. They're talking to hear themselves speak. Right. And they're like, oh, I sound really good saying this. My outrage is justified. I hate everybody who's doing anything. And so, we're not after that. I think we just wanna be able to, react to the world in a in a reasonable way, in a prudent manner that shows, wisdom and probably some semblance of hope. Right. Exactly. Like, there's… We we are saturated with information right now when it comes to this stuff, but like I just don't know who to trust. And I don't know what sources are right, and I don't know who's talking gibberish and who's talking from any… An actual educated standpoint.

I just can't tell where to get my information from right now. We don't do very well anymore is we don't hold anybody accountable for some of the stuff that Tim said.

So overall, like… There are probably 15 guys out there making predictions Right. On… Like, I I was just reading a guy a couple three three days ago, and he's like, we're already on the downward slide of this thing. Yeah. And I thought, oh, okay. Well, that's cool. I mean, good. No worries then. Right. And then everybody else in the world's like, hey, man. We're on the uptick. This is gonna be the worst thing ever. Exactly. And I thought, hey, Richard, whatever your name is,

I'm gonna keep a bookmark on you so I could email you later and be like, you lied to everybody. Right. Exactly. You told people lies. Right. There's no consequences to that. Correct. Someone can prognosticate somewhere, and it never shows back up. Did you say the word prognosticate? Yeah. Is that even a word? Yeah. And that's the thing is the Internet is… I mean, that's all… That's basically… If you wanna break down the premise to what the worst of the Internet is Right. It's constant prognostication from people

that have zero abilities, information, or fact checking, and they're like, here's the thing. And then they'll draw a graph. I'm like, a graph? Well, okay. Well That looks legit. Yeah. This guy has obviously got this thing all in. Obviously data behind this. So so maybe we should just… Let's just see. Let's do what we know. What do we know that we can consider to be hard fact that hasn't come from a thousand different places? Oh, yeah. What's what's undisputed? What's undisputed? So one,

COVID nineteen. Yep. The coronavirus nineteen established in 2019. That's it. Yep. There's been coronaviruses coronaviruses before this. Mhmm. They just used the '19 to establish it. So it's coronavirus twenty nineteen. Source, Wuhan, China. Wuhan. Yep. What's the,

why? Where did it come from? I thought it came from an Does it… I don't know. Yeah. I'm not… This is how out this is how out of touch I am with this stuff. I honestly have no idea where this popped up. So I know I know that most, like, dogs are vaccine for corona. Oh. For for most of the coronavirus. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's part of their vaccine package that they give animals. Maybe there's So what's going on with the the whole Lysol has coronavirus already on it then? It's because Is it… Is this just a new mutation with the original coronavirus? This is an existing group of viruses. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That makes more sense. That's what I was were… I'm wondering about. Like, I didn't know if they were saying, like, Lysol predicted this was gonna happen, blah blah blah, which was crap. But, like, I was just confused by that. Okay. So so we know, with the the epicenter, that's where it starts. Started in Wuhan. It did a lot of damage there. Yes. And and it tore the place up. Pretty rough. It's a it's a legit concern. Mhmm. People who are more susceptible to it are people with compromised immune systems,

especially people that are older. Uh-huh. And here's… At the end of the day, the thing that gets you is not the coronavirus itself. It's pneumonia. Like Okay. Right? Like, you get coronavirus, and then you get fluid in your lungs, like, if you don't have the ability to fight it off Yeah. Okay. And you catch pneumonia, and that's the thing that actually Right. Go for one of the symptoms. Yeah. Caused you the trouble. Otherwise, the coronavirus is is simply a a a cold or flu like virus Mhmm. When compared against the standard influenza,

even influenza a and b that are fairly prevalent here in western society Right. Not considered to be more lethal, definitely more transmittable. Because we do not have current antibodies against corona nineteen or COVID nineteen Mhmm. Yeah, most people do not have the innate ability to just pass it off or… And and and defeat it. Right? So it does… You… It's easy to catch. It's it's it's transmissible through respiratory fluid,

coughing, sneezing, whatever. That's why they have, like, the six foot social justice rule. Right. Wait. Is that what they call it? Six foot social justice rule? Social distancing. Social distancing. Yeah. I probably said that right. Now… Okay. So let me… So I'm gonna keep asking questions as you keep spending that information, honestly. So so when it comes down to it, what I've heard is that lethality rates and mortal… Mortality rates are skewed incorrectly because of possibility that these cases are not being diagnosed fast enough. It's… I would say that that everyone recognizes that our numbers are bad for multiple reasons. Okay. So you could say they're not being diagnosed fast enough, but, like, it's also

crazily underreported. Because here's the thing. Let's say I came down with some sort of cough and it lasted for three days. Yeah. It doesn't get I wouldn't report it. Yeah. I wouldn't have called it in. I wouldn't have thought anything about it. It's allergy season here in the Midwest. Right. Yeah. So these are not major concerns Yeah. For, say, twenty to fifty year olds. You get a cough around the March 1 or April 1, you're like, it's allergy time. Right. There's allergy season going on. Temperature swings are going on, and that might be what's going on and all this different stuff. Both things are… You wouldn't even think about it. Right. Right. And and I think that's true for the mass majority… Vast majority of people. What it's… Was… And this is where the numbers get difficult because we we don't know how much they reflect reality because you're relying on humans to report things. But, like, something like 80% of people,

won't even know they have it. And and let's just be clear here. Not everybody gets it though. Like, even though you… A lot of… This is true for the… For a lot of different things, but, like, it it doesn't, it's not inevitable that you're gonna get and it doesn't mean that it's… That it affects this… Everybody in the same way. It has a lot to do with the host. That's why we talk about immunocompromised people is that that they're in a much more difficult situation because their body's not prepared to fend it off. But, like, you you very well could have most people listening to this very well could've already had it, and you would not have even known the difference. You would've sniffled for a couple days, and you wouldn't even have thought about it. And… But that's that's why our reaction to a certain extent is disproportionate because all of a sudden, we treat the thing as if, one, it's inherently deadly. It's not. So there are some people where where it impacts them that way, but the flu does that. Car accidents do that. Mhmm. We'll get to this later, but there's a there's a… There… We have to recognize that there is a… An ex… There's an amount of risk that we take by doing anything

to live our lives. In fact, there's a greater risk of me dying in a car accident than there is even close to to something done with this. Right? And so… And I still leave the house. And so, again, as we think about a proportionate response to this type of thing, just… There's some considerations there. But… So, generally, just because it exists, doesn't mean you're gonna get it. Just because you're gonna get it doesn't mean it's gonna actually make any consequential difference to your life. Mhmm. And so this is where… How we respond to things is disproportionate.

And and, yeah, I don't wanna get too far into this discussion because it brings out the people from the shadows of the Internet. But, like, but but, like, measles is is is the same thing. Were… Are there kids who die from exposure to measles? Yes. Is it the vast majority of them? No. It isn't. Most people… Most most kids even who who get measles, especially in a a a a, I don't know, a Western state with competent access to to good food, clean air, clean water, we'll we'll get through it just fine. Like, we still vaccinate for the measles, but just recognize that, like, you… What you're fearing is a is a peripheral case, and you're protecting against the the spread of something even larger, which is the crux of our response. Right. The the the the the the type of thing that the government's trying to do isn't trying to keep people from getting it. It's people from transmitting. It's trying to keep… One one, it's spreading, and not even that it won't spread because it only takes one idiot to walk into anywhere and spread it. Like, that's why it's here. If it started in Wuhan and it's here in The United States and it's decimating, you know, it's all over Italy I was gonna say. And so, like, if that's happening, just recognize that, like, there's no way they can possibly contain how quickly things spread. So they're not actually even saying, hey. We think that we can stop people from getting it. They're trying to to dispense… Disperse how often or how many people get it once so that your infrastructure

doesn't crumble in light of it. Right. And I think that's a big distinction right now that people aren't recognizing is that's one of the biggest reasons they're doing that. They talked about it in president Trump talked about that both yesterday and today, and then governor Reynolds from Iowa talked about that today as well. It's one of the biggest things we're trying to take care of is the impact on the infrastructure we have because we have finite resources when it comes to how many cases we can handle simultaneously. Yes. Exactly. And I heard someone… Is a pile of people whining on Facebook, but there was somebody who's like, hey. The right thing to do is to react to… If our infrastructure is bad, we should fix our infrastructure.

That would be dumb. Why would we possibly set up our our hospitals at all times to otherwise handle a situation that happens very rarely? Right. Like, you're gonna have a million nurses on staff all the time ready for… Like, it just doesn't make any sense to to to do that. It it recognizes that this is a unique situation. Well, I I mean, and to be fair, like, infrastructure… I mean, let's just look at the different infrastructure. Right? Like, it's the backbone,

and and, like, all backbones are arduous and take a long time to build. Yeah. So, like… Yes. I I think the thing that I'm having the hardest time tolerating here is… Let's be honest. Everybody's in uncharted waters here. Everybody. Right? From your superintendent who's having to decide before they made it mandatory to call school. And… Right? And, like, whether your school, called it early or yours waited till the mandate came down, these dudes… I mean, imagine that shows up at your desk. You get the same information as the general public. There's not, like, a secret superintendent phone. Right? Where they're like, here's the actual deal, superintendent Jones. Right? Like, you have the same information. It's all flowing down from the government and from from news outlets and whatever, and you're like, you know, I don't know. If I pull this trigger too fast, I'll I'll be I'll be nailed as as like a… Whatever. An overcautious boob. And if I do it too slow, I'll be blamed for the sickness of the next a thousand people in the district. Right? So

everybody's in unchartered waters here. And and and the thing that I'm having a hard time taking in is I realize that it's easy to call balls and strikes from your back office chair at your house where you're quarantined, but, like, we got we got the best medical minds trying to figure out how we can get this thing wrapped up. Right. And, like, there has to be… Especially from a Christian point of view, I'm having a hard time with all with all the I told you sos. Right? That's not in your vocabulary in everyday living. Right? If you… When Jesus had the opportunity for I told you sos, he said, turn the other cheek. Walk another mile. Take it. Give him the cloak. Give him the tunic. Right? Like, the I told you sos don't come out.

And and that… The vast majority is is if we'd have done this, this, this, and this, and this, then this, this, and this. You don't know you don't know any of those things. You are purely guessing. Right? And and, like, so some of, like, the reaction that we were just talking about, is is… A guy was talking about this today is he basically said, look, you obviously… With the reported cases, we can't make decisions as if the reported cases is the actual here and now. Right. We're already three days behind whatever that is. Right. These are just the things we're learning. Right? By the time someone has gotten in, gotten tested, and verified that they got the thing, they're six days in. They got it. Right. Right? And so, like, who knows how many people they talk to in six days? So now we have to try to measure our response to be six days in the future as if we're six days behind because you are. Right? That seems reasonable reasonable to me. That's right. If you'd have come over to me a week ago and said, they're gonna close schools, they're gonna close the casinos, they're gonna ban you from every job site you're gonna work out, be like, woah. Woah. Woah. What's going on? Right. But, like, once it's explained to me by a guy who knows something or other, I'm like, okay. Yeah, I get it. I get it. That makes perfect sense. I mean,

I'm in unchartered waters too. I don't know how to react to, hey, you're supposed to be at work tomorrow, but now you can't go. And, like, think of… Let's get down to Johnny, average American. Right? Like, are are you gonna pay me? Like, if I go on quarantine and you don't have any work for me to do from home, am I gonna get money? Or do I have to take, like, vacation days? Or what goes on here? Nobody knows. And can we just take a a big deep breath and go, nobody actually knows. We're working to figure this out. There's a lot of humans in this equation. Right? Like, I… And I think we look at… And and and and people from from various parts of spectrum act like there's a machine somewhere kicking out this stuff. There's… Ready? Here's your big hit. There's humans in the White House.

There's there's humans running your local governments. There's humans running your state government. K? These are humans, people with families, people with jobs, not not… And I don't care your political persuasion. These aren't soulless caverns of demons. Right. K? They're humans trying to figure out reasonable ways of going about things. In uncharted waters. That's right. Alright. And so your opinion

largely… And let's be let's be honest about this. Most of the people who have the strongest opinion have formed it because they saw someone else with a strong opinion and said, yeah. I agree with that. Now I'm gonna trumpet that and say that this is the thing that's true. You're not dealing with raw data. You have no background or experience. Like, this is not this is not the time for your I I told you so punditry. K? This also isn't the time to take whatever political problem you have with all numbers of people and repaint a situation of people that are actually trying to help. K? Like, objectively

objectively, I think you have people who are trying to do the right thing here. You you may you may disagree that they haven't done the right thing in the past. This is the… And frankly, this is not just about the president. We've talked about this in the show. I don't love this man. K? Right. But, like, I I look out at at at at groups of people, and no one's trying to screw you here. I think they're humans in uncharted territory that you need to have a little grace for because everyone thinks that they that they would do it so much better. But here's the deal, friend. If you could have done it so much better, you have vastly wasted your skills there on your couch. Like, why didn't you have the balls to get in the political race? K? You're you're fifteen years behind from being president because you were a coward and decided to sit on that. Well, you should be helping humanity with your efforts. But to the extent that you're not because you're actually not qualified, you don't actually know what you're doing, and all your information is… And and opinion is based upon and formatted from other random dudes you read on the Internet, take it easy. I'd recommend shutting your mouth for a while. Maybe don't comment every four hours. Maybe don't post anything on Facebook about something you don't know anything about. Share news that's good. Share information that is helpful to other people, and pass that… Maybe keep your opinions back just a hair. You're looking dumb.

And for for for Christians, you're betraying the name of Jesus here. You look stupid. You've decided to invest yourself in a fight that you don't… In in your ignorance and raise a flag about it, And it's the wrong thing. Why don't you… Here's the deal. You you take that time, and look. Let's let's pray for the people who are who are working in restaurants who legitimately can't expect a paycheck. Right. You work a blue collar job. I I work a white collar job. Okay? I work in an office. They're going to pay me. Even if they shut the place down for two weeks, they'll pay me. Now here's the thing. My job's not going away. I'll be working for the next two weeks. Mine… Mine won't go go anywhere. Right. But, like, most of your white collar work, office work, the… It's a bigger corporation. They're going to pay you. K? You start getting into things like restaurants, they don't have it. The money's not coming in. If they have to shut down for two to three weeks, like, server's not getting paid. Manager's not getting paid. The guy who owns the the the local restaurant isn't bringing any money. He legitimately cannot pay you, And I… He probably doesn't have insurance to cover situations like this, unless and until the the state allows you to fire disability on it or something. K? So, like, that… That's what I'm saying. There's there's legit hardships here. This is not the time for your wisdom. It it… It's the time for your action. It's to go do something that otherwise helps the thing that's within your control. And this is where… This goes back to something I think we've talked about within the last year or so, is this is where social media is misleading. It gives you the the thought that you have

more of an influence with your voice than you do with your feet, and that's fake. It's not fake for everybody. There's some people who the platform simply meets them where they're at. Right. The ability to… They're already influencing thousands of people. This just allows them to do it faster. But, like, often we're mistaken on the amount of influence social media or our opinion actually gives us. It'd the the the… It's like having a microphone.

You ever step… You ever been to an open mic night? Like, at a… Like, some, like, musician or slam poetry or something? And, like, there's there's totally something about getting in front of a microphone and being louder than everybody else. We just talked about this at church for a different reason. But, like, it gives you a sense of power. Everyone stops and shuts up while I speak, and my loud voice fills the room. It gives you a sense of power. And so that social media does that very thing. It gives you a sense of power, and it makes… It gives you the false impression that you have influence. And to the extent that you have a finite bucket of influence and you decide that you're gonna spout on the mouth about things you don't really know or just regurgitate other people's opinions, or you could use that same amount of time and take that influence and and spend it in prayer. Spend it in,

checking up on people who are probably in a rough situation with, with reduction in work schedules, they don't know what to do with their kids. K? Or to figure out a ways to scrape some money together. You know the homeless shelter's gonna be running out of food pretty soon. Mhmm. Because people are hoarding the crap on their own, and they're not giving it elsewhere. There's all kinds of needs that are directly caused by this situation. And whether it's ineptitude up top or it's just the nature of the beast is irrelevant to you. We can be hands and feet people. And and if if that soaks up almost all of our time and we didn't get a chance to comment on whether you thought someone was doing a competent job,

glory be to god. That's probably alright. So… And and I think I know, like, a lot of the a lot of the hard stuff comes to fruition because they're like, hey. If we would handle this differently, then we would have reduced the number of people that are gonna die from this thing. Some of that is true. Right? But once again, it's an

it's a twenty twenty hindsight kind of deal. Right? Like, I could always tell you how I would have done something different to prevent whatever. And the truth of the matter is you're kinda shaking your fist at the wrong demon here. Right? Like, nobody created the thing. Right? Like, no one planned to unleash it. And so it is a thing that is happening to us as a people, as a world. It's a thing that's happening to us. And so we are trying to to handle it in our most efficient

and responsible way, still being valuable humans here. Mhmm. Right? So so like, I get it. Like, you're saying… Because because they will come back and say, listen, but people's lives are actually at stake, and that is true. And like, no one's trying to take the weight off of that. I think everybody knows that. Every… That's why people are to the best of their abilities. America's a tough it's a tough soup bowl. Right? Like, when you when you say you… You're you're going to be part of the land of the free, it's not like other countries where you can just demand martial law and then everyone accepts it. That's not how it works here. Yeah. As soon as you as soon as you institute a martial law or even a curfew, good luck getting half the hillbillies to do it. They'll just… They'll go, I'll do whatever I want. I mean, I I… In fact, I was I was just thinking about this, and this is totally unfair and completely biased because I don't know if this is true or not, but like a couple friends of mine are traveling for work, you know? Yeah. And they're and they're they're working down in Texas. And I thought, if there's one place where I think they will say, whatever. We're Texas. We will continue to run Texas however Texas runs. No one's gonna tell us how to limit whatever. And maybe they did. I don't know. I didn't even look into it. Right? But it occurred to me that, like, going through that thought process, if I actually… If if my my kids are hungry and I got no food, I will break your curfew. Right. I will go out into the streets and I will go to the store. Right. And and and because I live in the land of the free, that is a a mindset that, like, was given to me at birth here. It's an honor and a privilege to be in this country where I have that thought process where Mhmm. I mean, put us put us in a lot of the countries throughout the world and then countries throughout past,

where you can look back and go… When the Romans say, you don't leave your house, you don't leave. Right. You'll die of starvation in there before you walk out because they'll put a sword through you. Right? So realize that that all these conversations are coming from a platform of privilege here, but it also makes us a very hard country to govern because you're governing… Everyone has equal power here. Right? We're a free society, and you can you can put as many curfews as you want, but the worst thing you're gonna do… Let's say you get a bunch of lawbreakers breaking the curfew. Right? What are you gonna put more than 10 of them in a jail cell? Because you, sir, you just broke the thing. Right? What are you gonna do with these people? Fishbowl at county jails. Right. You're gonna find them? You know, they're like, find me. But… And and and on that same token, like, I… So I went to the store. Right? To the end, it wasn't even for emergency preparedness. I just go to the store. Yep. Right? And I'm walking through the through the aisles and I'm looking around and, like, still, the toilet paper's gone. Yeah. And and I thought, is this the first thing on people's minds? Hey, if this all goes haywire, I gotta wipe my butt. I just… I gotta be able to wipe it. And and, like, the peanut butter sits completely stuck. I was gonna say The bread is available. I went to Sam's Club yesterday with family, and I was astonished to see what was out of stock. Like, the TP was out of stock. The baby wipes are out of stock, which seriously people…

Baby wipes are not for for… A disinfectant. That's not how that works. They make those, but baby wipes aren't it. Yeah. Baby wipes aren't it. There are people who have children that could really use the baby wipes. Yeah. And and you think you're disinfecting your home by cleaning all your doors with baby… That makes no sense. You are you are… I'm I'm sorry not to to… Forget it. I'm I'm not sorry for being harsh. You're being idiotic.

You're being idiotic, and it's weird. Causing micro problems when there's a macro problem going on. My mother runs a daycare, and she had to buy a pallet of paper towels because she goes, if this lasts long enough, I'm gonna run out of baby wipes, and I need to find something. Like, I gotta figure something out. And she goes, I'll create my own baby wipes. Mhmm. But that's ridiculous that we've gotta do that because people are buying the wrong products, and it's dumb. And it's like, it's interesting to see what people care about in these times. And it's like, we have to put we have to put a a bans on or a limits on how much we can get laundry items and how much we can get cleaning items and things like that. And then people are buying bathroom cleaners thinking those are disinfectants and all this different stuff. You need to educate yourself as a consumer and buy the right things. So think think about this. Think of the broad But canned chicken was completely stocked. Okay. That's fair. So think about the broad notion of… We'd like to see to think of ourselves. There… There's a political philosophy that says, look.

We we we wanna make sure we help all those people who are in need. Right? We wanna make sure they've got health insurance. We wanna make sure that that that everyone who needs, the welfare assistance has it. Education, jobs, right, like that. Okay? Now you take that same thought process that we as the people are gonna give and support. The first sign of fear in our country, what did we do? What's our individual expression? Is to hoard for ourselves. Mhmm. Now on the opposite side, what they'll say is, well, we wouldn't have to do that if we otherwise had all these things in place. Right. But here's the thing.

You do have to put your actions where your heart intends to be. And now this is disappointing on every angle. Right? Everyone… We all we all should be able to look at this and go, hey. Do I need all this crap? If I… If if we had not overreacted, the stuff would still be there. If I… My wife went to go… We have a local supermarket in Bondurant, and she she went there to buy some things, and the butcher lady was out there, and they were fresh… They were clean out of chicken, all out of chicken. And the lady was talking to my wife who's buy… Ended up buying some other meat or whatever, and she goes, we were fine.

We were well stocked. People have been pragmatic around here. We have toilet paper. Like, we had the the the Bondurant grocery. People were… Had been reasonable. And she goes, we… Oh, I cut up… The lady cut up a bunch of chicken breasts and set them out this morning, and she said some lady came out and bought her clean out. And she goes, man, what's… You know, was everything alright? As the woman, she goes, oh, yeah. It's it's fine. It's just my normal grocery store was out of chicken, and so I came here. That woman doesn't even normally shop there. Mhmm. So she went from some… To someone else that could clean out somewhere else. So she went to some other place and to completely cleaned it out. And so the butcher lady's like, I've got normal customers. People come in here and buy chicken all the time and who have been been buying chicken normally even in this time, recognizing that other people in their community will need chicken. They're not the only people that live here, and so I'll buy what I need. Someone else will come get what they need. It's the Bailey Building alone. Okay? And… But, no, this this other woman with complete disregard for the community that she was in Mhmm. Came and cleaned the joint out and left. And so, like, the… That's the thing is that we look at it, she's like, you don't need it. I… We… We're out of we're out of eggs.

We… When we looked around for eggs today, and there's no eggs anywhere. Nowhere. No. I bought it from a local farmer. And and then I bought enough that I can take some to her grandparents or whoever who also can't get some. I'm like, where are they? The eggs… Things go bad. You can't just hold eggs forever. What's the matter with you? Can't freeze eggs. Quit hoarding eggs. And so, like, it's it's just that… I guess, here's the broad point. In in times where you feel like things are out of your control, recognize that you're right.

They are out of your control. There are things that are bigger than you. Mhmm. A lot of Jesus' advocation on the sermon on the plane and and sermon on the mount are are about individual control. What can you control? You can forgive even if the other person is abusing you. Right? You can give them you can give them the the

tunic even if they stole your cloak. Right? These are things… The the… Look at the look at the plank in your own eye. That's your control before you can help with respecting somebody else's. And so when things feel too big, your first reaction shouldn't be, let me comment on the big. It's to take control of what you have control over. Well, what what can I do? Well, I cannot. What what would I not want other people to do to me? Buy everything else from under me. So I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna act responsible. Even when everyone else is gonna act foolishly, we're gonna act responsible. I'm gonna wash my hands like I'm supposed to. I'm gonna try not to go out. I'm gonna recognize the people who are immunocompromised.

I'm gonna stay away from them. I'm I'm gonna probably keep my beard clean. Right? They… Now… Because do you notice that, like, everywhere in the world where this thing is going on, and in The United States, they've been hitting this… Like, they're not asking for anything outrageous here. Wash your hands. Right. Don't… And don't don't don't get in large groups where things can spread quickly, at least for a while. Don't go around immunocompromised people, especially if you've been… Have any possibility of getting exposed, but in general, maybe just stay away from them. Right. Right. And, like, these are not hard things. They're personal things within your control. It's when we start to bat above our range and say, I will control bigger than me by my personal action is when things start to get foolish.

And so it's… This is so difficult because it's… There's so many things that need right sized in the conversation. Right? The right perspective of

do I need to be afraid of this virus carte blanche? Is it the black plague? It's not. Right. It's not. Most of you all are gonna be fine. Do I need four weeks supply of toilet paper? Not unless you're drinking too much coffee and that's a run… You got to runs when it happens. Okay? And then just cut down on the coffee.

And are you thinking about the community around you as opposed to just for your own selfish needs? Do have any reason to think our food supply chain is in rough shape? No. No. No. You don't? It was actually part of Trump's message today was calm down. Stop buying so much. Retailers are asking you to stop buying so much. Our supply chain is fine. Right. Because even think… Here's the thing. Is it, like, even… Just think about it. What could… Do notice your toilet paper isn't done by a dude? There's not a guy there running the TP machine. Right. There's machines kicking out toilet paper all over the place. We have power. There's one guy on the truck delivering it to

Who just backs up to the warehouse, and your guys unload it. You don't have to talk to the guy. Yeah. And there's two guys who work at the Brick Street and who work at the Hy Vee who are unloading the truck. Okay. Right? Probably not sneezing on the cardboard box of which the toilet paper is otherwise contained in. Like… Inside of plastic inside of that. Yeah. Oh, here's… Here… On the same regard, here's the deal, guys. We went to the store today. We're looking for eggs full full of produce. I know you're afraid. I get it. Orange is gonna be fine. It's got the thing on the outside. Uh-huh. It's gonna be fine. Yeah. Put the gloves on if you want to. Wash it off. Right. Open it up and eat it. Bananas. Should wash your food anyway. They're gonna be fine. This is all gonna be fine. You should be watching your produce anyway. That's the thing, is that, like, you've acted on… You've acted foolishly and selfishly,

and I didn't… What it felt like at the time was that you were protecting yourself. That's what selfishness always feels like. Mhmm. I'm protecting myself. And I'm… Like, I I can't legitimately make a call to non Christians because your belief system will guide how much of that is is justified. But again, following Jesus, like, we… That… We can't do that. That's not our default to things. We should be giving things up as opposed to hoarding it in. Well, that's what I was gonna ask you is ultimately,

like, let's let's talk about what we can do. What what should the kingdom of Christ be doing in this kind of trying time? Like, is… What what should we be thinking about doing? Not just thinking about it. What should we be doing as a body of believers that believe in in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior and how that's supposed to affect our actions? What what should we be doing right now? Yeah. So I think there's a lot of really great options. One,

there's there's a lot of isolation. Right? Like, the the nature of trying to protect people starts to isolate folks. Right. Think of… Especially your immunocompromised folks. So make us the phone calls. Hey. How's it going over there? Yeah. You… Right. Let them hear a voice. Someone's thinking about them. Someone cares about them. Hey. Do you have everything that you need? Doesn't mean you have to go over there, or heck, you could even just drop it on the porch if they needed something. Right? But, like, there there are folks who shouldn't be going out and who other people aren't coming in. They may need something, and frankly, they wanna know people are thinking about them. And so check up on folks Yeah. Especially people who are immunocompromised. Two, recognize

that this is not your call to be a cowboy in defiance of good government wisdom. Okay? Of people… So here's the thing. It is not a virtue to you to to bring your gang of 20 boys out somewhere

in into a group and to frequent a restaurant because the government told you not to. K? This is… Like, think about the people around you. It's not about you. It's not about whether you're gonna be pushed around by the government. It's not about whether you're feeling just fine. K? It's about what potential impact you could have to the people around you. So be thoughtful about it. K? You know, where everything else is canceling around you, maybe it's wise just to let it go. I mean, we're talking a couple weeks here. Hang out at home. Hang out with your family. Right. Three, be prepared to give some of your resources up. Just, like, just know that, like, again, you're… We're creating hardships.

This isn't the government's fault. K? It's it's just the nature of of trying to stop something that's massive. And, like, again, restaurants are closing. People bake… People aren't gonna get paid. K? They're gonna… Yes. Are there likely to be some levels of stimulus or at least abeyance from a government perspective? Yes. I'm sure they're going to try. But nothing is going to beat people to people saying, hey. Do you need any help this month? How can I help? Right. And nothing's gonna work at the speed that is that is helpful.

Right. Right? Like if they… I mean, even if they get a stimulus going or something, right, it's just gonna… Like, the guy's gotta eat now. Right? How many people do you know that are in the the restaurant industry that make all their money on tips? Right. Right? They get paid measly nothings, but they make all their money on tips. No one's going out to eat. Like, they have zero income coming in. Zero. Right? And so, like… Yeah. And in fact, I think there's there's been a couple people, even in my hometown, like, they did a they did a, whatever, COVID nineteen support Facebook group where they're like, hey. If you need something, put it here. We'll get somebody to get it to you. Yeah. Right. If you got something that someone else could need,

tell me. We'll work on it, you know? And and like, it's it's a great idea, it's a mess, it's hard to handle. Like it's just a melee. Right. Of People talking back and forth, you can't keep track of who's got what or nothing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like overall, the thought process was right. The thought process was right, yes. Like we're we're available to handle some of these things. So… And also as… Like, let let's hit it. Right? Like, it's part of our our circle here. What are we gonna do about church? So so here's the thing. As I

would recommend any church that is of of whatever the size is that the government's asking to stop it to not meet. I would. I mean, I'm I'm… It's too bad Dan isn't here, because I think Dan held service last last Sunday. Yeah. I'd be interested to see whether he was thinking about doing it this Sunday. A lot of churches did not hold service. I I don't see I don't see what you're what you're gaining by it. Like, by saying, oh, the the people of god won't be stopped from coming into this building, for what? Like, our definition isn't in the building. It's not at the time anyway. And so, like, I I

I don't I don't I don't understand the crank of value here. I'd I'd take a couple weeks off. I don't even care if you do online teaching. I don't think it matters, to be honest with you. I'd I'd go find something to do. I… And here's the deal. It's like, for for most of the population where this will come and go, and it may not… May or may not affect you to a heavy percentage, I would use it for what it is and and take some time to reinvest in some of the things that like… Americans certainly struggle with this. Right? Yep. Like, you have the possibility to, like, the kids are off school for at least a month. Right? And your work may or may not let you hang out at home,

and you have a closet you always wanted to clean out or you wanted to play Monopoly with the kids in the middle of the day or, you know, like like, listen, all these things and like, what are we actually giving up here? Like, what are we fighting to keep? Right? Like, if if I'm being allowed without any threat of losing my job to hang out with my family, hunker down at our place, and just be for a little while and let this thing… And and and all while doing our part to do the right thing here, to try to stop some… The the disease from spreading to people that just do not have the ability to fight it off, What am I really fighting for here? I… Okay. Like, I I I… This seems okay to me. Right? Like, we're not… I'm I'm not fighting to go to work because it's bootstraps time. Actually, the bootstraps is staying home. That's the bootstraps. Right? The hard thing to do here is to give up your everyday normal and hang out with your family and, like, hunker down and be responsible with what you got and take care of your community around you without hugging them. Right? Like, put the food on the porch and leave or whatever you got. Here's the deal though. Is is… That that was one of the things I was gonna say was, I know this is gonna seem counterintuitive, but, like, this is a great time to have people over for dinner. Right. Like, we're we're talking about… Again, it's not that…

It's not implicit that you're gonna get it, and we're trying to stop massive movement of it. But, like, does it mean you cannot see friends? Does it mean that you cannot have your family over? No. As a matter of fact, I'd like… I would try to keep it to people you know, you know where they've been, you know who they've been in contact with. Like… So we're… So we do house church. I'm not canceling church. We may… It depends. Like, if we get to a point where, like, enough people won't come, then we won't bother because we'll find something else to do that Sunday. But, like,

like, we know we know everybody. There's certain folks who probably… Who have immunocompromised folks in their family where it may not make sense for them to go. I totally get it. Mhmm. But, like, I I I don't think…

The reason they're keeping the gatherings to a certain number is to try to to control how fast something spreads. Does that preclude you from having a family over or your friends seeing a couple of their friends? I don't think so. I think that's an overreaction. Right. Be… Because, again, if you look at it as being, again, not the same as the flu, but, if your mortality rate's two two to three percent, eighty percent of people don't notice,

whatever. It's… For all practical purposes, think of it kinda like the flukes if it spreads a little bit more Yeah. Rapidly. So there's all kinds of people you meet, talk to, run into, of which you don't ask their medical history before doing anything. There there is a certain level of acceptance of risk into the leaving your house at all and being involved in the world. Right. So I… You know, do do I think this means you have to completely shut down? You can. And if you can, I'm alright with it. But, like, I I don't know that it precludes your ability to have dinner with a friend or have have the neighbor's kid come over and play. I don't

I I don't think I don't think it's that. I think that is… I think that's an overreaction to the situation that we're in. And so I would say, to a certain extent, mate, you know, don't… This this isn't a lockdown.

It's it's a it's a wise caution. It's it's being prudent about what what you do, who you hang out with, but it… You know, again, it just be… Even even if your neighbor had it, there's not a guarantee that you're gonna get it. Right. He's gonna have to cough in your face or your beard or something. Right. You can still yell at him from across the fence. Yeah.

Coughing my butt. I'm head butting you. I I saw a guy… I… This… I thought this was a really fun idea. There was a a pastor that had had… Was talking about for Easter. Because, right, this is… The the the restrictions here are gonna end up taking you into the Easter season. Right? Mhmm. And I thought… And he was talking about what if you could set up something like a drive like a drive in movie Easter gathering. I thought that's freaking awesome. Yeah. Stay in your own cars. Yeah. You could find a place to do it. Now I I think he has still had, like, people, like, roll down their window, but I thought, like, you could even get one of those Exit tuned to a station or whatever? Small radio broadcasters. Find some cool place to to to set up and at least have your whole community come, park, turn on the radio, and they could still see you or pastor or or the worship band or whatever. And at least you got to share it as a community and roll down the windows and wave. This is all fine.

Like, there's there's ways to do this that are fun. Right. There's ways to do this that don't put anybody at risk and are are reasonable, that don't cause us to dig in our heels or say, oh, the the the… We we can't meet at all. Like, this is… If this thing at all hampers the work of church, we're stupid. Yeah. We're stew… We're super foolish. What what is the… One of the the one of the wisest people I know said there's nothing to worry about. There's plenty to pray about, and that's pretty dead on. Yeah. Right? We don't have anything to worry about here. We do have lots of stuff to pray about. Yeah. And so, like, you're right. Like, if don't you see this as an opportunity to do something different, right, like, I mean, we don't… This is both a Jesus thing and an America thing. What is this lay down mentality? Right. You know what I'm saying? We're like, well, I always do it this way, and if I can't do it this way, I'm not gonna do nothing. What the… We don't do that here. We don't do that. We come up with ways to do the whatever

and following all the guidelines. Like, we're not talking about rebeling the thing or meeting secretly with a 100 people. That's dumb. There's a… You know why we're not doing that. Right? And and like some of this is… That's where the the the the part comes as slightly irritating is like, you know exactly why they're asking us to keep this to 10 people. You know why? Don't act like you don't know why. You know why. So don't do it. Right? Come up with a way to get this done without acting like a fool. Yeah. You know, here's the thing. And I was thinking about this on the drive in. It's like, some people are getting the opportunity to work from home. Some people aren't going to work at all, you know. And then then then there's our our medical community, which are doing the same work that they normally do Yep. For the exact same pay, except they're being bombarded and yelled at all the time. Right. Right? Like, what a time to be in the medical profession. Well, and the poor bastard that runs the checkout line at the grocery store. Exactly. He ain't going nowhere. Right? He gets to be yelled at five times a day about the toilet paper supply. Look. I can't do anything about Wells who came in here and bought all the toilet paper. Right. Nothing I can do. You know? I'll tell you. I was at I was at Walmart last week thinking about that concept, and the dudes that were restocking

the Walmart, I sat there and I talked to him for a second. Like, I just kinda loved on him for a second. I'm like, man, this has gotta be one of the toughest jobs right now. They're like, dude, we have been constantly grabbing stuff off of trucks, running them right back here, filling them up. People are fighting in our on our aisles for this stuff. It's been crazy. And I'm like, okay. Well, talk to me. Like, maybe you wanna just chat for a second. I'll pretend like I'm buying some TP. What's going on? Right. And the dude's like, well, actually, it's been a really crappy week. Yeah. He's like, okay. Alright. I can't even imagine how crazy this is for you right now. And he just kinda dug on the fact that I wasn't yelling at him. Yeah. That's sad. That's a sad situation. It is a sad situation. Job, and, like, everyone's everyone's… For lack of a… No pun intended here, crapping on the guy. Yeah. And, like, he's just trying to do his job more so than ever,

and people are just, I mean, dumping on it. Ridiculous. And here's the thing here's the thing that I'll say is that based upon the amount of stuff that has gone all over these stores, this isn't like five to 10 isolated selfish people. This is us. We have to own our response to this. We have to… As as a humanity, we have to own the fact that we we did this. In the first sign of fear,

we we doomsday prepped. Yeah. And we took… We… Everything we had, and we said, screw everybody else. I'm gonna do what I want. And, again, there's 60% of professing Christians here in The United States.

If if if we had completely had ourselves handled here, guys, this wouldn't be happening. Right. You know I went shopping this morning at the Amish grocery store. Yes. You did. And it was calm. They don't care. I would There we I mean, it's not… I shouldn't say that. Wait. It's not like they don't care. The what? Down south. Like like the Amish grocery? I think there's an Amish there's an Amish grocery that's, like, four miles west of Grimes that I wanna hit up, and I know there's no way there's there's anything happening that place. Great. I call that place Bonnets and Bluetooth cause it's like, it's the coolest place ever.

There… It's amazing. Have in a cafe for a while. Now here's the thing. They don't have any they didn't have any toilet paper there, which I thought was weird. Like like, they didn't even sell it. Support the bidets. I bet someone came out and wiped them out. Yeah. They they don't even have… They don't even have a place for it. Right? Like, so so… But but, like, there was, like, five people in the store, and no one brought it up. No one said anything about anything. No signs. No prep work or whatever. They're like, I'm grocery store. Visit. You know, it was super smooth shopping. It was great. I I I would recommend hitting up your local almond store. I went to the cash saver on the East Side that's like… I mean, it's it's a rough spot. Yeah. It's the place that's… It's it's like a food outlet, which I totally dig on. It's the place that, like, everything's so cheap, they just add 10% to everything on the checkout line. Yeah. And, that place, fully stocked. No issues. They got stuff that they don't even have at other places. They got 47 different types of peppers. Yeah. You may not be able to get everything else in the world. They… You may have to get the best choice brand that that people think, well, no. What's that about? But you can get the most amount of peppers you've ever gotten in your entire life at the same time. Where else can you get agave?

Like, they got that. Right. They got the agave nectar like… And they have the… What what is it? Like, the aloe, the full aloe leaves that you can buy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This this is where I shop now. I'm like, I love this place. That's great. There's no panic to this place at all. It was a little busy, but everybody was just grabbing a normal amount of food. They were doing deals on stuff. Nothing was sold out. It was just like, man, this is my jam. I love this place. This is where I need to go. And it's kinda funny. I I got myself… I got one one pack of toilet paper because I needed it. Yeah. I was down to, like, one roll, and I'm like, okay. We'll need more. Grabbed it and then went, cool. I'm good. Yeah. Should be fine. I'm good for now. We'll be okay. I'll come back and else on top of this. I mean, to be honest, I got some T shirts that could go if push come to shove. You know what I'm saying? Like There's polo out Socks. I mean, I'm just saying, here's the deal. So so my fiance lived in Madagascar for the last couple years of her life, and she put out… It was just… It was so… Oh, I love that woman so much. It was so kind hearted and loving and pure the way she meant it and it just came off a little weird, but like I know her heart so it's not a big deal. But like she's like, guys PSA someone who's lived in a third world country for four years, TP isn't that big of a deal. Right. Like,

it's okay to just shower and soap it. And I'm just like, okay. Alright. Fair enough. And then everybody's like, wait. What? Gross. Gross. No. We can't do that. She's like, well, it's actually, like, still a pretty cleanly cooked process. You're still you're still soap and water in this situation. Right. It's not that big of deal. Times cleaner than the other way. And so Well, you're mostly just smearing it around. I mean, let's be honest. You're pushing it around. And sometimes you think, this doesn't feel clean at all. This feels like I just moved poop around for a while. Yeah. And now I gotta take a shower. Yeah. No good. Yeah. Every once in while, I feel like I might even be harvesting. That one wasn't that one wasn't ready for for crop yet. No.

Oh, no. Oh, man. That was… I was not prepared for that in shape or form. Unnecessary. Oh. That shouldn't be a lot of… Okay.

I… Alright. Okay. So here's the so here's the question then. What what what… So what what questions do you fellas do you feel like we're… Do… Well, do we have enough to do? Do you have enough to do? You you fellas done any of that yet? Done any what? Done any of the things that I was talking about? I mean, offering… Trying to help out families that I know. Yeah? Okay. Yeah. Like, I know families that are quarantined, and I'm like, you just… You need to call me and let me know. If if you need to stay in your house, I don't. Yeah. I will go grab you groceries, and I will bring them to your front door, and I'll I'll… I saw them on the way out, and I'll walk away. Yeah. And it's not a problem. The super interesting thought is is a lot of the the medical stuff that we get is from China. Right? So, like, China's the only country in the world that produces aspirin. Really? Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. Every bit of aspirin that comes to this country comes from China. That's that's crazy. And so, like, the the thing to keep in mind as well is, like, the… Like, some of the folks that we're talking about that need, like, their

everyday heart medication or people that take aspirin every day as part of, like, who who have a heart condition. Right? Keep your risk of heart attack. Yeah. Right. We're keeping an eye out for stuff like this because, like, you know, like, if… Obviously, we have to import that from China. And so, like, there's there's there's… It's it's almost insulting. Right? Like, there's way bigger problems on this thing besides the toilet paper. And the toilet paper has somehow into the king spot of this whole ordeal, and, like, it never made sense. It didn't make sense the first time it happened. And then it makes sense when the second truckload came in, and it was gone too. Right. None of that ever made sense. And and and and the weird part is is is is you search the Internet and, like, every every third guy will be like, this t p thing's ridiculous. And

to Ben's point, what type of influence do you think you're actually having? Right? Like, because you could scream at the top of your lungs, this is not a toilet paper issue. Not… The sickness is not even a toilet paper issue. Right. Nothing is a toilet paper issue. We've created a toilet paper issue. And people are still out there just, I mean, ransacking the toilet paper. Hey, man. Is it… Do you think it's safe to assume that anybody who hasn't brought it up on Facebook and said that the thing was outrageous are the people who were doing it? Problem. Yeah. Like, they're one the dudes. That's the tell. Yeah. I'm gonna… So here's what I'm do. I'm gonna go through my my friends list on the Facebook, and I'm gonna look for anybody who has not posted that is ridiculous to have taken the toilet paper, I'm gonna just start tagging them. Listen here, Chad Wilson. We know. Yeah. We know it was you. I know you're buying all the toilet paper. I mean, this is what I'm saying. Somebody's lying. Somebody's lying in here. All this toilet paper went somewhere. Right? All this all this… The spam went somewhere. Yeah. All these potatoes went somewhere. Someone has got it sitting on a stockpile, they're like, yeah. These people are ridiculous. I don't, I bought them for the homeless. That's probably what I did. Liar. I'm stocking up because I have 38 children that you've never seen. I I I Imagine what type of complete downfall of our entire society would have to happen to where this level of toilet paper hoardery

makes any sense at all? I I think, yeah, that's that's, like, problem number 47 on the list. Right? I mean We we have shut down as a society. Stores are closed. The trucks ain't moving. No no food, drink, or or good is being shipped anywhere. Right. Right? And and this is the thing. Right? Like, everything

else that we would have to lose before this toilet paper situation is a deal. Like, you've bypassed all that. Right. Yeah. Exactly. You know, like, that just doesn't make any sense at all. You're more worried about wiping your butt than you are about actual sustenance for your home. Yeah. Like People are out. They're buying all the water, buying all the bottled water. Right? And and and I saw it. It was right. It was pretty close to toilet paper. Right? All the bottled water's got it. I thought, what type of virus do you think this is? Right? Like, it all of a sudden grows feet and arms and goes down to the waterworks department Right. And shuts the valve. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. The pumps are gonna pump. The motors are gonna motor. Right? Like, most of our most of our water delivery system is is automated. Yeah. Our infrastructure has to completely shut down before we have to worry about, like, water problems. I I mean, we are just… We've gone drought. We've gone bonkers. I mean, if the even if the virus was in the water. Right? Like, let's say somehow it… Like, some guy just sneezed in it twenty four seven. He's, like, wailing into the thing.

One, we treat for it. Yeah. And two, like, have you seen places in the world where they're drinking water? Like, again Right. These are… Here… I I guess here's the deal. From from groups of people who are who are always talking about privilege, these are privileged problems. Yeah. Yeah. Toilet paper's a privileged problem. The ability to go get potatoes at the store is a privileged problem. Right? The the the the fact that you can't owe… The government says we won't be able to meet church this Sunday, and so we're gonna have to do it online.

Privilege problem. And so… And that's what I'm saying. It's like, before we start talking and… Look at the words as they leave your mouth and say, boy, I looked dumb. I wish I could grab those back in. Right. This is… Of all the things that are that are problems, this is not the time to wave the fact that you don't see the world correctly. Like, the nonprivileged problem is the person who's not getting a paycheck, the person who doesn't know what to do with their kids because they're still trying to work. Person… Even people who are trying to work from home and have no infrastructure to be able to do it, but, like, their company isn't super gracious about it. Like, there's all kinds of people in weird situations here of which yours is not the worst. I'm I'm almost not affected at all, to be honest. Mhmm. Like, I work from home anyway. We homeschool.

Like, we know how to we know how to be home. We're good here. We've got… We we generally keep a good decent amount of food in the freezer. We could not buy anything for a number of weeks, and we'd probably be fine. And so we're not buying a lot of stuff. We're buying… We had to go buy… I told you we couldn't find bread. I'm I'm gonna make bread tomorrow. Yeah. I got flour. I'll just make bread. Okay? And it won't be good because I don't know how to make bread very well, but it'll be fine for however long it takes for people to quit brining out the brown berry until I can get some more. Or the artisan. What's… Who makes Sara Lee? That's Lee artisan bread. That's the stuff. That's pretty good. Boob can't have it. So… Sorry, boob. Go, Brett. Don't… In either case, so, like, I I guess this is this is… It's just the opportunity to to not think how am I impacted. Just start thinking about how other peoples are are impacted. And, like, just even if you start there, you'll find natural things to be able to do. And there's there's… I I mean, not that

not that people can't understand how you've gotten. Like, it's not that, like, I… I've thought about this the last couple days, like… And there'll be minutes we'll all drift off to the side and go, man, should I be worried here? This feels like a panic's going on. And, like, I… You know, are there are there less cars on the road? This is weird. This whole thing's weird. Right? And then my mind will drift. I'll go, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Everything's just fine here. Right? Like, we've we've contributed. It… It's it's… Once again, it's uncharted waters. Right. Everybody's trying to figure out how to do this thing. Right? Like, if you could if you could try to bolster your grace for people and, like, even the guy that is buying all the toilet paper Yeah. Right. Agree. He's we got here. You know what he's doing. Right? Like, I I I wish his motives were different. I wish he was seeing the thing correctly, but he's not. So, like, I understand. He's got 10 dudes at his house, and he he doesn't know… And they're all ladies. Oh, man. They go through some toilet paper. Yep. Yep. Yep. I get it. You gotta have to have it. And because crazy man bought all the toilet paper, he forced sane man to buy toilet paper because he

was gonna come back every day and just get what he needed, but everybody keeps buying it out. So now he's gotta hedge his bet. And so now one crazy dude or 10 crazy dudes took 10 reasonable people off the charts because now they have to act act half crazy to be… To even get the toilet paper Yeah. Or the chicken or whatever the heck you're going crazy on. Right? Like, it just seems like you have this… You do have an opportunity to look at some things in perspective and realize that, like, your ability to eat a fresh peach that is out of season. It is March, sir. You should not have peaches.

Right? I loved it. The Alma store. I go down there, and they said, look. Bakery's closed from November to whatever. Good… Have a good winter. Like, we don't do baked goods in the middle of winter because we don't, because it's not baking season, because we don't got the stuff. Right? And I'm like, I love it. They're like, it's it's not it's not time right now. So right now, some of the things that… Ben's right. It's first world problems. Right? Some of things that we're we're upset about and and and we don't know what to do with and we're like, oh, it's gonna be totally disruptive.

Let let's be honest. Disruptive of of of what, actually? Right? What you had in your mind? Yeah. Because disruptive is I don't have to go to work or I don't get to drive to a building and they pay me money. I mean, we'll figure this thing out. Like, there there's opportunity abounding to to have good interactions with your neighbors, to be helpful to your community, to proclaim the love of Jesus Christ, and for heaven's sakes, to hang out with your own family.

Right. Let's do that. Right. Right. Read a read a book. Read a book. Oh my gosh. What would happen to The United States if we started reading? So actually, do you think… Like, is there is there a worry that that all these people at home are gonna are gonna bog down the Internet? I read an article about that, and it's… I think it's individual services. So places like, Skype, Zoom, like, conferences Yeah. Conference sharing, they think that's that… That's a possibility. And so, like, those folks have been been kind of buffering up. A lot of the stuff's cloud based anyways. That's the thing is that, like…

So we use Skype at work. But I use Skype whether I'm at work or whether I'm not at work. Right. Right? So, like, it's it's not… I… Whether I did it at home didn't particularly impact my service provider. So, like, are places like Amazon equipped?

Because, like, I mean, this is what I would do. Like, they'll just order stuff off Amazon. You can still deliver to my house. I'll to talk to you. You don't have to talk to me. So their… So I… Their infrastructure is… Am… I mean, the Amazon, I mean, they sell infrastructure. Right? AWS is their is their platform. What you can… Like, buy infrastructure. And one of the things that the deal with is if you you, you host your stuff with Amazon, like, it just automatically ramps up. Soon as it sees volume, you need more servers, it just kicks more servers on. And when you don't need anymore, it kicks them back off. Like, they just got banks and banks of opportunity at these places. Right. Now where Amazon's running in trouble, they're they're, they're not doing prime delivery two days or even one day in places where they… Where it used to. It could be, like, four or five days because people were soaking up the goods. Their people aren't dumb. Soon as they go to the the the the local 5 and dime and there's no toilet paper, they went on Amazon and tried to order something. Right. And so they're starting to get wiped out. I was looking for a monitor, Stan, because, like, I'm working from home. Usually, I got a couple monitors at work. Again, first word problem. I'm like, well, can I take the monitors with me? Like, no. We don't want you to take the monitors. I'm like, well, it would… Maybe I can get ahold of some. Right? So I'll just… If I was pricing the monitors, Stan, should have been here in two days. It's gonna take five. Yeah. And so… And it's because people are… The… One, they're putting a burden on the system, and then two, Amazon has has people working there. They're trying to limit exposure, so they're cutting down the… Facebook's closing. Right? I heard it from some lady at the Casey's. The local Facebook is not having,

they're shutting down for sixty days or something. Right? So, like, you know, I… But there's there's… That's because there's humans. There's human workers in some of these places. If if our first reaction to this situation is to say, boy, look at how I'm being inconvenienced because there's not a person being put at at least some potential risk somewhere else, you, sir, are being outrageous. Yeah. You're being selfish. And so just… There's

there's people who this is a really rough deal. Like… And so so like I said, most people, this isn't a risk, but, like, I don't… I'm not immunocompromised. For some people, like, they're… This is them. They're like this all the time. Right? Like, their families are like that. They've got people in their family. They've got special needs folks. This is a constant worry,

and it's even bigger now. And so the question isn't whether I can or cannot do this on my own, but, like, what risk do I present to other people? And I suppose it's just keeping that type of thing in mind and, like, not being so focused on your own individual situation. And, like, I I just… Our our our reaction to this, not only to how we talk to people on the Internet about it and to how government is handling it and about people who overbuy TP are handling it and are are are… Frankly, are are buying out of goods and services around us for our own personal store up, It just doesn't speak well of us. No. And and we've got… We have an opportunity to shine here, and I think

a lot… We have to be reminded of that. This is this is the thing where when when when things are rough, Christians are running in. When everybody else is running out, when everyone else is hoarding, we're standing at the place going, hey. I've got some toilet paper. Am I gonna need it? Right? I got some extra chicken. I even cooked it into a casserole. Here you go, bro. See, this is the thing where people are gonna regret some of the advances that for technology. Right? Technology can't help us here. Right? It can it can it can organize. Right? Like, and it it does well there. But, like, at the end of the day, if I get really in the straits, I'll kill a goat. Oh, right. Yeah. I have a chicken that poops eggs out of his butt. Right? Like, I… It's all like… We've we've we've

we've we've made all this push towards towards technological advancement and and and suburban areas and whatever. And, like, I was trying to think today, who's actually probably not affected by this at all? A farmer. Right? Yeah. I mean, he's he's got a 100 acres of space, first of all, and he just goes, well, you know, I mean, push comes to shove. There's, 30 head of cattle out there. You know, we'll take them out. We'll take one out at a time. I can give some to my neighbors. We're plenty good. Like, we we produce our own food here. We're little subsistence. Right? Like, we take care of ourselves. They got plenty of distance? We got plenty of distance. We can take care of our our our neighborhood and whatever. And so, like, actually, the heartland,

the Midwest has a has a better chance of being able to do this and do it well. Mhmm. Right? Like, look at these… The completely urban areas where like, I mean, can't… What what… I mean, you tried to grow chive on your patio one time and it failed. And so like, there's nothing you can do. You are completely at the whim of the supermarket, you know? And so like, it could be a time to take a little bit of step back and go, you know, I I don't know if I like being… I know that I wouldn't like being put in a corner like this. Right? Like, I do not like being where I have to… If I have to rely on everybody

to make sure that my family is fed, that makes me uncomfortable. Right? And so, like, if there's anything that we could… That you could do to say, look, in case something happens, I'm not a bomb shelter guy or a stock ammo dude, but, like, I mean, could you survive at your place for a couple weeks if something happened? I mean, let's be a little bit pragmatic here, you know? Yeah. Interesting. So so we covered kinda where we come from, what we believe that the the threats are. I think they said, like, even best curve,

this thing's still around in July, August. Yeah. You know? Doesn't mean like all the all the bans and whatever are, but like… It's prevalent. Even… It's still, you know, we're still… We're… So we're talking like it's gonna it's gonna run over Easter season. It's gonna it's gonna run over… Could possibly run into the state fair and like… I mean, there's a there's a huge economic impact Yep. Of how this is looking. And like, they're all super… I'm I'm interested. I'm not worried. I'm just interested on how, like, all this shakes out. Right? I think it will shake out. Right? Obviously, I think it's gonna… Like, it'll it'll go through and it'll do what it's gonna do, and the economic stuff will have to be handled, but, like, we work… Especially our stock market system and our capitalist system, it does this. It's built to ebb and flow. It's not a rigid type operation. So things are gonna tank and then things are gonna rebound and like it's just what the system's built to do. And so I think like some of the panic is all

because of technology and because we're used to getting news and updates and collaboration within a microsecond, then we start making decisions based on the microsecond. Yes. And those are horrible, horrible way to live. Right? Like, how many times have you walked away from an argument, not five minutes away, and you're like, ah, that was the thing to say. Right. Right? And it would have been dead on, and it was right. And so, like… And if you're forced to make decisions in the microsecond, then you are basically forcing yourself to be wrong more often than you used to. Well… And the the the the stock market thing is a pretty good example. That's our TP

expressed in a much bigger format Right. Where people overreact and then cause the problem, that they otherwise didn't intend to. Right? And so, like, the the… That's the… Like, the the stock market's an interesting deal, because, like, the minute we think it it… We assume we have some level control, we start to panic. We think things are gonna happen. We do things, and then the stock market follows it.

The stock market is made of humans making human types of decisions. Right? And so, like, I think just just something to be aware of. Right. That that, like, even as you think about your… Our reactions where we think people overreacted and then went to buy TP, you only have a problem from a stock market perspective when you actually have realized it. So so, like, if we said, hey. We think this is gonna… There's gonna be a downturn in the economy. Well, look. You know what it is. It's predictable. If you didn't start cutting bait,

then the thing wouldn't start going down. But then other people see it. This is what happens to four… People who got four one k's and retirement accounts. They look at everything going out. Like, boy, everything's going down. I should get out of this. It's a wrong move, but then they do it, then somebody else does it. And now, like, you're kind of perpetuating the problem, because the stock market is all about what people think. And I think based upon our TP situation, we can recognize that in the time of crisis, we don't think right. And so if your first inclination is to go and react in the stock market to something that's going on around you, I might just advise just to hold tight. Well, can you can you imagine the guys that are part of the, like, emergency response infrastructure within this country? And, like, all this goes down and they go, wow. I never thought toilet paper was gonna be a thing. It's not even in the bylines.

Right? It's not even… Right. Okay. We gotta we gotta make sure the water supply's up, that we have temporary hospitals up and running. We could probably gotta overlay some gas masks and some… We need a typo negative blood. They And got all these things ready to go in case of whatevers. And it turns out people went up crazy about the toilet paper, and they're like, I mean, dang, Hank. I had no idea this was gonna be such a deal. How was it gonna be this way? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Just a quick shout out. We want to thank our first two followers on the live from the path Instagram. Ali Crummy

with Ali Crummy music has liked us. Alright. She was on the show a couple weeks ago. You can check her out on our archive shows. You can check out some of the music she brought. And then, of course, the the wonderful Jeff Arendelle Right on. Has liked our thing. Arendelle's on the Insta? Arendelle is on the Insta. You can follow him. You can follow him and you can follow Ali Krum music. And the third follower is some random dude named Troy, so he's not important. But our third follower will

get a signed roll of toilet paper from the people from Live From The Past. So if you are the third person to like… They're gonna get LFTP. They will get LFTP, live from toilet paper. Well done. Yeah. That was that was organic. That process is beautiful.

We will sign, happily sign, and we'll even sign the roll, like the toy… The the cardboard on the inside. How are we gonna do that? We'll figure it out. Okay. We're gonna we're gonna invent something that's gonna work. That way, you don't have to worry about when you use the TP. It's not like, oh, no. The signature's gone. I can never use it. That's impractical, and that's not what we're about to sign. My name there. We will sign the inside cardboard for you so you will have a… An officially signed LFTP from us. So we need one more one more follower for that. Okay. That's great. Alright. So so just before we leave this topic,

what are… Do we have any more big questions? Things that we're wondering here? No. Actually, I've… I… That kinda answered a lot of the stuff that I wanted to know. I just I just wanna know what I need to do. That's my big deal, and I feel like I do now. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Broad advice. There's only one thing you need to know.

Spend your time thinking about others. Yeah. I think that solves a lot of our… A lot a lot of our panic problems. The virus is gonna do what the virus is gonna do. It it just is. Right? Like, follow follow the guidelines that's set out by reasonable people. Don't get involved in trying to steer the ship that you're not even on board. You have you have no information. You only have information that comes out through

social media and news outlets. And while I think that they are probably somewhat trustworthy, you're getting that information third, fifth, tenth hand from, obviously, our our

leaders who are making some decisions. And like I said, it it is no surprise from this show that, like, there are things about our current leadership that we don't like. Right? But at the end of the day, we're all trying to navigate some waters here, and I think we can band together as as a community and go… I think we can do what's good for a lot of people. We can stop worrying so much about ourselves. We're not talking about,

you know, the black plague here. Right? We're not talking about the place burning down or nuclear war. We're talking about a couple well timed, cautious steps that we are certainly going to survive. And and you can do it without without…

With minimal irritation if you change your attitude. That's that's right. And and then recognizing when when you're gonna think about other people that, like, where that's your situation, then what's in your control do, what's not in your control pray about, and then recognize that there are people who are not in your situation, who this is a a legit threat to, just like any other thing going around, and be respectful of that. Yeah. Right? And and that wouldn't miss… You wouldn't miss it if you weren't thinking so much about yourself. So let's think broadly. Be be prepared to part with time,

money, goods, and prayer and praises as it relates to to this thing, and and just know that, like, it's a… It's gonna happen.

It's gonna happen. Alright. We got time for one? Yeah. At least one, I think. Dear life from the past. My wife's family drops by our home several times a week, usually unannounced. I don't mind them dropping in, but what does bother me is they bring their kids and expect us to feed them during the visit.

It has gotten to the point that I hide our snacks and beverages in the bedroom because if I leave them in the cupboard, they disappear. They often end up eating the leftovers I had planned to be my lunch for the next day. I've talked with my wife several times about this situation. She agrees with me, but she says there's nothing she can do about it. I wasn't brought up that way. I would never think of going to someone's home, opening up cupboards, and helping myself to food without an invitation. Also, I'm retired and on a fixed income. Am I overreacting? And must I just keep my mouth shut?

Oh, what was the relationship? Yeah. That's what was just about to ask. How… Who do they… How do they know these people? My wife's family drops by. That's it. So they're your in laws? I I'm assuming that they are… I don't know. I don't mind them dropping in, but what does bother me is they bring their kids. Can I can I assume that it's your wife's children? Like, the… Like,

their step… Stepchildren, and then they bring your grandchildren or your step grandchildren to the house and the kids eat the stuff? Maybe that or maybe cousins. I don't know how often… I mean Maybe. Okay. Does it matter? No. Mean fine. Not.

I mean, that is weird. What do you mean? My… I I still ask for food at, like, my mother's house. Like, I feel weird raiding cupboard. I I think it's because I'd be… I'm the big fat guy, and everyone expects me to walk in and go, hey. We'd seen you free. Right. Then you'd whole bunch of uncle Bins. You

got the You got the ho ho. You got any bullion cubes? That's unnecessary. So, like, to to eliminate that stigma, usually go, excuse me. Yeah. Would you mind if I partook in anything from your fridge? Yeah. But… Yeah. No. I would never I would never be okay with doing that. But deal with it. I mean, this… Here's the thing. So here's what's here's what's difficult.

Children are difficult because there is a measure of… Like, one of… Here's… I got two reactions. The first one would be, look. Just give it to them. But but secondly, they're children, they're acting rudely. And so I… Like, it's not out of line to go, hey, man.

We got you some stuff. We got you some… Here, do you guys… You want a thing to eat? Can have some bananas and oranges. Right? But, no, you you can't just eat my leftovers. That's weird. That is weird. That's weird behavior. In the in the clamshell and then going, oh, I love fettuccine Alfredo. Now hold on. And grabbing it? I I mean, this… I feel like this could easily have been addressed eons ago. Like, they show up and you go, look, boys. There's a new program when it comes to the snacks and leftovers. Leftovers are mine. Snacks, I got laid out on the table. Yeah. You can have whatever you got. I love it. Goldfish, have some fruit snacks. Right. Anything that's covered? Mine. Any of the leftovers? Mine. Any of the snacks on the on the table? Yours. Yeah. I love you guys. Okay. That's fair. I think that's reasonable. Yeah. I do. I do. And I don't think… I know that's not selfish.

And and, like… Yeah. I mean, Mike, would you come to my house and start eating out of my fridge? I take… I would take a soda from you. I do it all the time. No. But, like, I wouldn't otherwise, like, get into your rice and beans. Well, I would say… I mean, it it… I do this all the time. Right? I'm like, do you have any soda around here? Right? Right. And then I might open the fridge as I'm saying that, but, I mean, I will certainly I I will certainly ask. I can't think of anywhere I go where I just take it. Mike, I've house set for you and ask for food. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My job was to eat the food in the fridge. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I texted you on multiple occasions. Hey. Is it cool if I eat some of that cheese? I think that's fine. Like, I… Here's the thing. It's like they're they're kids. Right? Like That's weird. I'm assuming that they're kids. And like you said that they're kids, and so I'm assuming they're, like, between the ages of, say, eight and 14. Yeah. So whatever. I… You know, their parents aren't paying attention to them. They don't care. They don't find it rude, but you do. It's your house. Say, look. Just Yeah. It's fine. Just set a guideline. Stop being such a wiener. I mean, you're worried that your wife's gonna yell at you because you laid down the law about the snacks. If her family's that sensitive, there's nothing you can do about this anyway. You know? Yep. Yeah. I agree. K. Secular says, this is your wife's family, and she is the one who should deal with this. All she has to do is say she would appreciate

if her relatives ask when they'd like some food or drinks because their forging through your cupboards has created a problem for the two of you. What? I don't know that you need to open up to your grandkids potentially that, like, you're causing marital problems between your grandfather and I. I mean, yeah, I I… Just say stop eating my food. Yeah. I got food for you. Eat that food. You're the worst negotiator ever. I gotta be honest. You've really pained me right in my soul. You've won. You've You've already beaten me. Yeah. A perfect man. So frail that when the granola bars are gone, we are done. Right. Yeah. You've really oversold it. You've you've pumped, like, 70 pounds of drama in this thing. Just say a thing. Yeah.

I can't imagine that my father-in-law would not do this. Hey. Listen. You guys ate all the Twizzlers last time, and those weren't for you. So here's what we're gonna do. You each get a fudge round, and that's it. That's the extent over here. Okay? I love you. Yeah. This is… It's totally fine to set boundaries. And this is not offensive. It's not cruel. No. It's fine. It's just regular living. Yeah. Yeah. Hit me up with another one. I'm I'm on a roll here. Okay. Okay. We got two more. Ready? K. Dear doc from the past, for the past few years, I have encountered a problem with cashiers in stores. Mhmm. I pay with cash and generally have change coming back to me. When the cashiers return my change, they hand it back in one big wad along with the receipt. When this happens, I must stop, lay everything down on the counter, and separate the different denominations. Then I have to place the different bills into my wallet.

I've tried asking them to place the receipt into the bag, but they usually don't listen. Also, some of them reach for the next customer while I'm still putting my change away. It is so frustrating. Is there something I can do differently? Yeah. Do that after you walk away. Yeah. You can try not being a pain in the balls. Why don't you try that? Literally. You you are not the only consumer of this store. You are ridiculous.

Even if you are the only consumer at this store, freaking walk away and do this 20 feet away from the aisle. I mean, here's the thing. It's… I… I'm not so… I I I can't… I can sympathize with this, man. Like, sometimes they'll hand you the bills and the change and the receipt all at the same time and put it in your hand. Yeah. And you're like, there… Obviously, these don't go out of the same place, but I don't… I just stuff them all in my front pocket and I straighten it out in the van. Yeah. Right? There's no reason to clog up the line with this. And, I mean, what do they wanna do? After every transaction, they're gonna go, how would you like your change handed to you? Right. I can either do it separately or one big wad, or I can fold the bills nicely and have them already sequentially ordered. Yeah. Would you like all of them facing the same way? This is the gas station, sir. You know what I'm saying? Get moving. They are… Aren't they sequentially ordered? Like, who takes That's true. Who takes a 10 and then a one and then a five? You know? Pulls out of the till A 20? Like a psychopath. I've seen the towers and start whipping pills out in a crazy crazy manner. Yeah. I suppose that's true. Thinking about the training regimen at most gas stations is not probably heavily weighted on the the way you hand back change. And I mean, what about those gas stations that automatically kick the change portion out in that little roller coaster, the change coaster? The come and go's have that. And then you gotta dig it out yourself, all while the guy's holding bills in your face. I mean, first of all, give us the times. Pay with the debit. Yeah. The only people in the world to find that awkward.

Yeah. I I don't like it. Yeah. Agree. It's like I said found weirdness in in a machine handing you coins. Because it requires you to be ambidextrous. You have to work with… He hands you the bills out of his one hand, so I take it with my right, and then I have to pull the change out with my left and then try to two handed bolt into two pockets. Yeah. They've set me up. All while my goods are on the counter, and I don't… They're not in my hands. Right. Right. It it makes you feel like you're behind. Yeah. There's not a smooth way to exit that transaction. You guys are complicating this way too set that up poorly. You know what I do? Do what you just did, but don't go, oh, oh, oh, no, the whole time I'm doing with the debit so I don't get involved in this. Yeah. Alright. Fair enough. But even that irritates me because they added an extra question in almost all the debit machines. They're like, do you is this does this purchase okay? Yeah. Does this look correct? I'm like, I don't know. I didn't bring it up. I don't know how much this company cost. $13.53, and I agreed. Just… I swiped the card, didn't I? That's enough that I I agree. I didn't do the math and then figure out the tax on top and go, excuse me, sir. That's 13¢ too much. Yeah. I mean, I always wondered if this became a problem. Right? Like, I've had it where people have gone, sir, that'll be $230.05. I'm like, what? That seems a little steep. What happened here? Oh, I double rang the whatevers. Okay. I straightened that out before I swipe the card. But once I swipe the card, I'm agreeing to the transaction. Yeah. You don't have to ask me nothing. Just say, send it through. I said this is fine. Right. If it says no, it says cancel transaction. So, like, you could have just started this by just going, hey. That's too much. Yeah. I don't like the sound of that, Ricardo. Put your cars and money back and re ring. Right. Something funny. Newspaper. You're charging me $72. What's going on? Yeah. If I didn't want this, I wouldn't have stuck the car in. And they're like, is this okay? I mean, are you my therapist? Yeah. This is fine. Exactly. Are you sure you wanna make this purchase? I don't need your kind of accountability. Yeah. Run this thing. You don't run my life robot. Right? Oh, man. We were Shut up, Internet. We were in the Menards yesterday, and some lady wrote a check. Now here's the deal. Check writing's a pain anyway. Yeah. But, like, at Menards, the manager has to come validate a check. So, like, you know, people… Even even the Menards, which is selling food, people cleaned out the exec. There's a run of stuff at the Menards. And so this woman writes a check for $200… $212,

and, like, we gotta wait there for five minutes while the manager… And you know what she did? She just looked at it and goes, what's your Social Security number? Writes it down, and then goes, this is okay. And then the lady at the checkout had to then type in the Social Security number. I'm like, we could have done that with it. What did you do? Yeah. You know, you didn't Sherlock anything over here. Right. That is the correct number… Amount of numbers. Great. I verified that. Have have some security laws memorized. Oh, it starts with a 484. Got it. Cool. We're in the right spot. And where were you born? Champaign, Illinois? This is definitely right. I'm sorry. That's from Peoria. Do you already have a Visa Mastercard? Because you do now. Now that I have your social and full name. I stole your identity. Maybe maybe the lady's like a folksy. Like, she looks you in the eye and takes you and was like, you know what? Yeah. That's you. That's you. That's you. Those are your checks. You alright, baby? Alright.

So what's what's Sekular gotta say about this one? You're gonna… Sekular says, I have two suggestions. Oh, great. The first is to discuss your concerns with the store manager. Mhmm. The second is to shop somewhere else. Yes. Yes. Of course. The escalation process is the right way to think. It. I don't like the way your cashier's hand me change,

and I'd like to speak to corporate about it, please. Wow. Can we affect this from the ground up? I've talked to 400 other people. We'd like to file a class action lawsuit against you. There's no weapon I hate more than the drama gun. And she just pumps it right out. She's like, I filled this at home, and I'm ready to drama it up. Let me talk to your manager. Yeah. I got… I… I'm gonna tell you something about that store manager. He don't give too crap. Nope. No. He don't care about what you're saying. In fact, he's gonna regale the rest of the employees with the story that he had to talk to you for the next three days. You'll never guess this woman came in upset because of the way I handed out the change. Right. His whole… You think his whole job is to make you go away? That's usually not actually the job. No. That's not it. That's not the concept of escalation of customer service anymore. We're not in a place where we have to go, okay. Give them whatever they want. As long as they're quiet and they don't say anything, it's fine. That's not the deal anymore. Uh-uh. They're just the face of it, but they're not actually gonna fix anything. Yeah. I'm gonna shop somewhere else. Okay. Cool. Look. If this is how you're gonna handle problems, you need to memorize the following phrase. Hi. I'm a gauche turd. Please get your manager so that he can be made aware of that. That's right. Not enough people know that I'm really irritated.

Does your management structure recognize how much of a boob I am? Because I really like for them. In fact, have a little stirrups. Ready to go. Here. Hang this up. I don't even want… I I don't I don't want the corporate phone number. I want their address. Yes. Yeah. That's right. To send a letter. Sir, did you sign… What is… What does the word gauche mean? Did you sign your name under this gauche term for this? Of course, you wouldn't know, Neanderthal. Did you did you have letterhead printers? Alright. Last one. Ready? Yep. Dear life from the past, my husband and I have been married for thirty years. I recently retired, and we are planning a cruise to Europe and a two month stay. Not anymore, you ain't broke. Just gonna say that. Returning on the same cruise line. The cruise line is rather posh, and travelers are asked to, quotes, dress appropriately, which means, essentially, men should wear a jacket to dinner. No tie required.

My husband is balking at the idea he should have to wear a jacket on his vacation and now says he won't go. Life from the path, we have already invested several hundreds of dollars in deposits. So what do I do? I'd rather not spend fourteen days at sea with a husband whining over wearing a jacket for thirty minutes a day and end up dining alone. We reserved a table for two so we wouldn't be stuck making small talk. We are cruising because he will not fly. That's rough. Your husband sounds great. And you you sound great too. We reserved a table for two so we don't have to make with the small talk. How posh of a place where you've invested hundreds of dollars Not exactly. For a two month stay in Europe? I feel like you… This thing is a warehouse with a crate in it. Yeah. Yeah. You're on a cattle ship. Yeah.

Yeah. We've already invested tens of dollars in a what? I think they're taking you for a ride. How much is it to get there? $200. Yeah. Sounds good. Great. Why does it smell like livestock in here? No reason. Yeah. We're the Uber of the sea, the super.

Yeah. I mean, suppose the question is why would you… Like, didn't you know that? Didn't you know that your husband would flinch you to this? Yeah. This should be useless. For thirty years. You shouldn't be surprised. When was the last time he wore a jacket? Yeah. If you can't remember that, maybe imposing this on the dude is a bad deal. You should know your hubby after thirty years. Yeah. Your expectations are weird. I mean, not not… He's a bit of a boob too though. We can take a couple minutes to be like, look, dude, just put the jacket on. Right. Yeah. Know your wife had. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. You're being a bit of a boob. And plus, I mean, you go spend two months in Europe. Just put the jacket on to get there. Right? Like, no one wants to take their shoes off at the TSA line. Do it anyway. Right? So… He doesn't he doesn't fly. No. He don't fly. Right? I suppose… But I mean, we do all kinds of things we don't want to do. It's a system of weights and measures, and you go, is this worth what I wanna have at end? Yes, it is. Okay. We'll put on jacket.

Right? I mean, buy a flamboyant jacket. Buy a jacket that has that little flower that comes out of it, squirts water. Who cares, dude? Just do something to allow you to do this. Buy the jacket that has your favorite non imported domestic beer on it because I can guess that's the kind of person you are. Yeah. Just wear that jacket that's got Budweiser on the back. I mean Yeah. Just because a guy doesn't wanna wear a sports jacket I'm NASCAR heel billy? I'm guessing he's a Budweiser fan. No. That's wrong. Mean said was wrong. Yeah. I mean, I don't wanna wear wrong all you want. I don't wanna wear a jacket. I don't drink a domestic drool. Yeah. Yeah. But would you throw that much of a stink about it to not go on a cruise? Would kill at my wife. Yeah. I would… What are you thinking? I don't wanna wear no jacket. Yeah. I would probably be And that would be the end of it. Yes? I guess I guess I'll wear a jacket. Yes. But it's gonna be the king of beers. That would be the end of it for you guys. You guys are not the demographic that I'm speaking of when I say, I will absolutely not go on a flight, and I refuse to go on a cruise if I have to wear a jacket. This is ridiculous.

That's the guy that I'm talking about. It's a turd ball. Oh, boy. Okay. Alright, Segular. Let's hear it. Yeah. This is gonna be awesome. Here we go. Let's do let's do the old swing and miss the problem. You have already… Segular says, you have already accommodated your husband by booking a cruise instead of flying. Could his problem be that his jackets no longer fit him? Oh, sweet Moses. If that's the case, you should buy him another one. However, if his objection is that he really doesn't want to go, why not take your husband up on his offer to stay home and ask one of your girlfriends to accompany you? Then all three of you might have a better time. On a two and a half month trip? Right.

Almost three months because it's fourteen days each way. Yeah. That's wild. Okay. What's the actual solution here? Secular, please. No. No. No. Please, please, please buy your husband another jacket. I would love to see that how that ends. Yeah. Right. With your angry curmudgeoning husband that refuses to wear a jacket, you think it's because they don't fit. Yeah. I got you this one. Great. Yeah. Earl, I got you another one. That's exactly how that goes studio. I wonder why he's so… I mean, I I I don't blame him. I wouldn't wanna be on my vacation forced to wear some monkey suit I don't wanna wear. But,

I mean, once again, if it gets me to Europe and I refuse to fly, there's no other way to get there. Right. You can't drive. He's being unreasonable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unless he's like, hey. Can we just cancel and get a regular cruise where I don't have to wear a jacket? Maybe she did this without asking him. That's a valid point. I don't know. You know? Yeah. I mean, you can dress nicely on a cruise that doesn't allow it, doesn't ask for it. Right? You can dress nicely. You can always dress higher. Here's the deal. What happens if you don't? Oh, I don't know. You're on the cruise. Right? And we can push you… They're not gonna take you back to port because you didn't wear a jacket. Yeah. Sir sir, you'll need to wear a jacket in here. I mean, you're gonna make a scene. Yeah. I don't wanna… I bet people take their jacket off all the time when they sit down at the table. Yeah. Yeah. You probably just have to have it have it on to be sad. Yeah. Then they put you down and then… You just take it off. And then you could play Phil Collins, no jacket required the whole time. That'll be fine.

I think that the right answer is, look, dude, you need to wear the jacket. And and look, wife, if you got a little fired up and thought that your husband would rise to occasions, you've known him for thirty years. You were you were you were signing the contract with Sprinkles and Rainbows. Was never gonna do this. Yeah. You had it in your head that he might rise to this occasion, but you knew deep down in your soul that he was not gonna do that. Right? And now he's done the exact thing that you knew was gonna happen, and it's unreasonable to be upset about it. Yeah.

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