He's got to look good. Got to hype it up a little bit and everything else. You do look good, by the way. It's all downhill from here pretty much. Yeah, you look good. Thanks. Got my old navy shirt on and everything else. Where'd you get that? Dressed up. I'm kind of going through my midlife crisis right now, so it's kind of like a… Oh, those are terrible. That looks like a blanket. They look like swimming trunks. Do they have a lining in the middle? Well, I should probably wash them a lot more often. It looks like a quilt. It looks like a quilt that your grandma puts on the bed that people only sleep in like twice a year when they come by to visit. Well, it's comfortable. What can I say? Those made out of paper? They are made out of paper, actually, yes. I don't believe in washing. Awesome. I can't hear you, Ben.

What does that have to do with being made out of paper? You're not coming in? With the washing or? Yeah, I don't know. We're off to a good start tonight. We've got everything else. Anyway. Well, I don't know what to say about that. Zach's coming in loud. Well, I tell you what, just to, I suppose to provide a bit of an update to something we talked about last week. So we were talking about, or I was talking about that KFC, it's called the Double Down. And if you remember, my explanation was it was a piece of chicken with a bacon and cheese and some sort of special sauce and then another piece of chicken on the top of it. Sounds pretty gluttonous. Dan, did you say you saw the commercial on that? I saw the commercial today and I thought of you and I even had the family just kind of pause for a moment and say, well, this is Ben's sandwich, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So I couldn't quite keep away from it. I decided that since I'd taken the time to introduce it, I would go ahead and talk about it. I needed to go get it, right? Now, did you do the grilled? Yeah.

So that was a tough decision because they offer the chicken pieces as either the grilled or the breaded. And obviously, for handling the sandwich, the breaded is definitely the way to go. But I really do like the grilled chicken better. Yeah. So I went with the grilled chicken. I thought, if I'm probably only going to do this once, I should probably go ahead and just go with the grilled chicken. So that's what I did. And frankly, it's like holding a very warm, dead fish is what it's like. Right? Thinking that you grill a piece of chicken. I mean, there's nothing fancy to it. It's a piece of grilled chicken, hot, on either side of the sandwich. And you have to kind of paw it to eat it. They put it in a wrap, but they didn't really do a good job wrapping it up. So I thought maybe you could hold it in your hand and use it to eat it that way. Kind of like you would a sandwich wrap or something you got somewhere. But it didn't really work out that way. However, all that being said, it was delicious. Really? Yeah. So is KFC giving you like a, are we being endorsed by them? Remember, I didn't know that we were, I didn't know we bought advertising time here or what. Yeah, we're working on it.

We hope to be. Okay. All right. Anyway, I will say that I wasn't disappointed in it. I'm not sure that I'd go buy it again. I'm tempted to go back and use the breaded and try the breaded chicken sandwich the second time around. But other than that, I was actually pretty happy with it. It just seems kind of slimy. What was the after effect? Like an hour later, two hours later, were you thinking, boy, I ate a chicken chicken sandwich. That was not. You know, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. Oh, that was tonight? I was driving. Oh, you know, I had it today. Oh, I had it today. I, yeah, I had it like midday. I kind of skipped lunch and took it as a midday. What is midday exactly? Is that three, four o'clock? Okay. Yeah. Do you know where the keys to the restroom are back here?

No, no, no. I've been fine. Things have been well. It hits you suddenly. No, no. I think I'm going to be completely fine. My leg shook a little bit when I was driving back, but it was the left leg, and I don't use that one while I'm driving. Did your left arm go numb or anything? No, no, things were fine. I hung it out the window. Hey, do you guys, did my drive with two feet? I don't know. Only if you have a clutch. No, a non-clutch vehicle. Oh, no. My grandpa does that. My grandpa drives with his right foot on the gas and his left foot on the brink. Do you ever try and drive with your left foot, though, just for a moment, like when you got an itch on your foot, or I don't know what else you'd be doing with your right foot, but I've done it now and again. You're going to weigh into someone on your right foot. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't been playing with my right foot lately. I don't know what else you'd be doing, but maybe possibly itching your foot.

But I don't know if you've tried it, but I've tried it before just for a brief moment, and it doesn't go well. Yeah, you feel like you're first learning to drive, and you slam on the brake, and it's jerky, and it's terrible. Right. I had a sprained ankle, I think, once. Probably playing you in basketball, Matt, or something. I don't remember. Dan did not last very long on the basketball team. It was about three quarters of a game. Yeah, that was bad. Not a problem. He was out for the season. I was out. Yeah. I didn't want to embarrass everybody. Embarrass the other team with domination. Wait a minute. It was a church lead. Dan, are you a profuse sweater on the basketball court? I am. It's just a guess of mine that you're a heavy sweater. Especially after he takes down chicken, chicken sandwiches left and right, right before the game. Slime chicken sandwich feel when you rub up against me on the basketball court.

It is. Wait a minute. That's not sweat. That's grease, I think. That's what that is. So you're not, like, are you guys not at all interested? Like, no one's going to go by the double down at the KFC? Absolutely not, no. You don't want anything to do it? I absolutely don't. The bacon kind of scares me. Very gluttonous. I like bacon, though. It looks like it's sitting in my stomach for days. Okay. All right. All right, Matt Cassidy. Let me ask you this question. Fine. So if right now we say we're heading out to eat, we're going to get something from your fast food restaurant, a choice. Right. Where do you go and what do you get? Well, I have two kids, so where's the only place there is in the nation right now? McDonald's.

That's it. That's the only five-star restaurant I actually go to right now. Okay. I'm with you. Now, it's not by choice. Don't get me wrong. I actually don't like to go to McDonald's, but of course, again, I've learned that, you know, you just get used to going there all the time. I go there every stinking weekend. Do they eat chicken nuggets? They do. Is that all they eat? That's all they eat. That's all children eat. Chicken nuggets with honey. Yes, exactly. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's not by choice, by the way. You're avoiding the question. Where do you go and what do you get? Honestly, I do the Wendy's thing. I do just usually a burger, fries, and a drink. Now, don't get me wrong. It's a little gluttonous, but what you're talking about right there sounds like it's layers upon

layers. I don't get the five different patties on one bun. I don't do that. I just do the one patty in that. I think that's all any human being actually needs. Do you feel like you really live life? Yes. I want to live longer. That's for sure. I don't know. The chicken sandwich, though, has no carbs. There's no bread. There's no bread, no carbs? The chicken boulet is the bun. I don't think carbs kill you. It is a bacon sandwich with chicken bread. That is a good description. The way you guys have described it, though, sounds more like a piece of rubber. No, it was a decent piece of chicken. Well, he said it tasted good. It felt weird. I mean, it felt like a warm fish. Right. I mean, it tasted all right. Yeah.

I thought it was all right. I might try that. Dan, are you going to go check it out? I'm going to try it because I'm brave. I'll do anything once. That's very masculine. I feel like I'm not against the KFC. Now, hold on a minute. Like, by comparison, Dan has taken a masculine stance is going to go after that. I am not going to infer that you saying you won't eat it is going the other direction. But I'm just saying Dan is very manly for having done it. I would try it, yes. I'm not saying I would. You're afraid, though. He caved. He caved in on his position. It's in his eyes. It's in his eyes. I see tears. That can be peer pressure. I better ship one in right now. I don't deal well. If anyone's listening and can ship a KFC chicken sandwich in. Yeah, I'll try it. I'll give it a try.

I feel like maybe if I ate it, I just couldn't breathe for a while afterwards. I'm not sure. Cheese and bacon and chicken and chicken. As long as you don't have fries with it, I think it's got to be a pretty healthy choice. No, I got the meal. Is your wife online? Yes, I'm certain of it. We got any people chatting here talking about this? Has anybody else tried it out there in the world? No, we've talked about you referring to the chat on the chance that they're not talking about it. Now it looks bad, and they're not. Well, I'm trying to spur them to chat about it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I did start with the, did you talk about it? It does not appear that they're discussing it. Well, get going then. That's the point. But I did get the meal, though. I did have the meal. I had the potato pie. See, I just refuse to eat at KFC. I haven't eaten in a while. Every time I eat there, it's just terrible. Really? And it's the smallest, greasiest piece of chicken I've ever had.

It's like $19. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like $19, and you get back, and they gave you, you know, the styrofoam thing of mashed potatoes is like half full, and it's not good. And a bone with some loose skin on it. Yeah, yeah. Actually, my favorite story with this is actually I went to a KFC a few months ago. I don't mind going to KFC just so we're clear on this. I'm not anti-KFC. I support KFC. We love KFC, by the way. It's funny because I stand right behind a woman who was returning her meal, and I kid you not. And here's the reason why. She was returning it because it did not look like what the picture looked like. That was it. That's the only reason why. I kind of thought. It didn't look. Has anything ever looked like the picture at a pastry restaurant? Exactly. Ever. No. Ever. That's just a problem. And I thought, well, it doesn't look like the picture, so I want my money back. I was like, are we serious?

Did she eat any of it? I thought, like, I was on a hidden camera. I didn't know if there was, like, there's supposed to be a joke or something. But no. No, she did not eat it. It just did not look like they're four. She went back. Good for her. Yeah. Through the drive-thru, back in the parking lot, got her money back, left. So when I was in high school, I worked at Burger King over at my Merle Hay Mall. It's like an Indian restaurant now. It was 56th and Douglas. For those of you out there who want to check your facts. Back in the day. Anyway, I was an employee, and I came after work one day, and I ate a burger. And I wanted to come back and act like I was an angry customer returning my meal. And I had this sack with, like, a couple cheeseburgers, whatever. I don't know. I slammed it on the counter, and I said, this. I don't know what I said. And it exploded, and burger went everywhere. There were customers standing there. They were like, who is this fool? And I was like, I kind of just walked away quietly.

Never mind. It was a joke on wrong, basically. Yeah, it just went bad. It was bad. It was burgers gone wild. It was not good for me. I was not fired. Yeah, it was kind of like that terrorist recently. A guy I heard about that was Hindu that said that he had a smoke coming out of a plane in the back. He jokingly said it to a guard or what do they say? One of those Air Force men or what do they call those? Yeah, yeah. The guys on the plane. Marshall. Marshall, thank you. You're welcome. He jokingly said something along the lines of, what did he say? I got a shoe bomb or I got a shoe bomb going on or anything else. So needless to say, that story just reminded me of that, actually. Speaking of a joke gone wrong, severely wrong. I was thinking about it. That doesn't even seem like a joke, though. No. I mean, that's just something that's just wrong. Don't joke about.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, we should know that. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. We've all seen Meet the Parents, right? Yes. Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb, bomb. Oh, that's right. All right, yeah. Why can't I say bomb? I'm going to bring my loaded revolver Monday and just see if they notice it, like the football player a couple weeks ago. That's a good idea. These guys. Well thought out. And then he was like, literally, he was like, oh, wait, you can't do that? Like, that's not cool. I mean, it's loaded. It's okay. How much do you get paid? Well, about perfect. Not that that equates to intelligence, but come on. Oh, that's good. That's pretty scary. You still feeling fine?

I'm feeling great. You're feeling good? I'm feeling great. I'm a little drowsy. I don't want to say that I'm not a little drowsy. Is there mayo on the sandwich? No, there's a special sauce. There's some sort of special. I'm sure there are. Some kind of, I don't know. It's yellow. It's like a bacon sandwich with yellow sauce. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, sorry. I'm feeling all right. Which actually begs the question. Has anybody got, like, really, really, really sick from eating something? Like, have you ever had the experience where you got really sick from eating something? Because it's never happened to me. Like, I mean, of course, I remember times when, like, I've gotten the flu or something. And, of course, you'll realize what you ate that day, right? Oh, yeah. But it wasn't the cause of when I got sick. So, it was like, anybody gotten really sick after eating something specifically?

Absolutely. I've never, yeah. I'm with you. I've never gotten food poisoning. Yeah. I'm, like, nine years old, I think I was. A friend of mine and I thought, we're boiled hot dogs. And then we soaked them in butter and rolled them in sugar. That's awesome. When you're nine, it sounds, they tasted awesome going down. And, boy. That's what actually KFC is going with next. Oh, that was nasty. And we ate a lot of them. And I saw every one of them later. It was bad. I can't imagine. It was nasty. Did everybody that did it have the same response? I don't recall. Or is it your constitution? You're just a man that can't handle his boiled sugar? I generally can handle about anything. And if you've ever, I think everyone at home should try this. Boil some hot dogs.

Soak it in butter. Get it nice and soupy. Roll it in sugar. They go down really well. What's the time frame? Like, how long did it take to, you know, reappear? It was like that night. It was probably a couple, three hours. I don't know. I was a kid. I don't remember. I'm going to guess my mom must have cleaned it up, too. I don't remember that. She probably took that to her grave. Zach, botulism? Yes. I can't think of anything specific that I ate and then re-ate, you know. I've got a recipe for you. Yeah. I can't think of anything, a specific item, you know. I've got nothing there. That's weird. No, I said I never had food poisoning. I am a power puker, though, when I do get the flu, but beyond that, I've never actually. I'm getting a theme, though.

See, you guys are very conservative in your choices of food. Yeah. Some people will try anything. Right. That's right, man. I've not tried everything. Will, I try a lot. Like, I tend to like spicy things, so I'll try the jalapeno. Throw a jalapeno in there anywhere, and I'll try it, you know. So if they would have added a jalapeno on there. That was the downfall of the sandwich. Yeah. There's not enough on there. Make it pepper, Jack. I'm in. I'd like a bacon jalapeno chicken sandwich. Can you put more on there, please? Anything on the side? No, but my wife says that, I mean, I just punish myself with the jalapenos. Jalapenos, I think, you just go with anything. Oh, yeah. You know, I put them on the side, pop them, you know, and just with whatever you got. But I just torture myself, though, and I'm like sweating. My eyes are running, and I'm like, no, no, it's good. It's good.

I got to like blow my nose during the meal. So, yeah, and I do, I like it, but it's got an ill effect, you know, so I don't know. I don't like it when it's so spicy you can't enjoy the flavor, but I love jalapenos. I mean, I love that. But when it's so hot, you're just like, I can't even enjoy this. You got to be careful with jalapenos, though, and same with like banana peppers, because sometimes you get the ones that are kind of like hard. Either they're like a stem type of end that gets mixed up in the jar they come in, or they're just like a hard piece. So I tend to ask for any of that stuff on the side, so that way I can kind of look through it. Or even like my Subway sandwich, you know, we talked about that, and I'll actually open it up. And that's one thing that I don't hold against them, though. We talked about the tomatoes. I don't hold against it. You know, they don't know if that piece of jalapeno is bad or not, but you kind of got to look through it, because there's nothing worse than biting into a good sandwich and getting a crunchy pepper that isn't supposed to be crunchy, you know. Yeah, yeah. And that'll just ruin the whole sandwich. You can't really recover from that. There seems to be a fairly negative reaction to the Oreo Fluff at the Hy-Vee. I love Oreo Fluff at Hy-Vee. Yeah, but Mike, he's not on camera, but he's here, and he was hitting the chat, and he got food poisoning from the Oreo Plus at the Hy-Vee. Oh. And it sounds like Double O Olsen agrees. Like, it's not good. I got to know, what is the Oreo Fluff?

I've never had it. Daniel? It's basically whipped cream with some little chocolate sprinkles that makes it look like Oreo, but I don't know if there's much Oreo in there. It's just whipped cream, basically. You've never had it. All right. I mean, it's very light. I just get a little bit. Just enough to go, like, okay, I had something sweet. See, no, I agree. I'm somebody that I do need to reach out a little bit. I agree with that 100%. I do need to, like, branch out a little bit. Gotcha. What are we rocking? What? What are we rap about? Just reading the chat. The chat. Is that? Yeah. Yeah, we can't really talk about that right now. Actually, I realize that you guys can't see the chat, so I could be insinuating that they're, like, saying foul things about the two of you, and you wouldn't know anything.

But they're not. That's not what's going on. Yeah. Is this an honest show? Is this? Are we being deceitful to those who are blind to the chat? No. If you noticed on camera there, I did sneak over and steal. I came into Dan's camera there. I was looking at the chat. So I'll keep my eye on it. Okay. That's good. So it sounds like from the – so KFC is not entirely original here. Computer doc on the chat says, Famous Dave's has a special burger that has bacon and pulled pork on top of a burger. And I'm not sure that's all that – I mean, that's still burger, pork, bacon. Isn't that just pig on pig? Yeah. I guess I don't mean it like that, obviously. I'm just saying that, but that's pretty much what it is. If it got pulled pork and bacon, that's just pig on pig. I don't get that, I guess. There's no point to that. I don't know. They're posting the calories of the double down.

Oh, my. We talk about food a lot. Yeah. I like food. I mean – Hold on. Fat, sodium. Wait. So what? Calories. Okay. So calories on this double down, 500 – oh, no. I got the grill. 460 calories, 23 grams of fat. I don't know my sodium levels. 1430? What's that? Is that bad for sodium? Oh, that's high. Is that pretty bad? Should I be salted out? Oh, yeah. Do you want to drink a lot of water after that puppy? You better – There's nothing to drink.

I tell you what. So I was driving down here, and I meant to get something to drink because there's nothing to drink here. You know, Brett Rooster, soda machine, water, coffee, whatever you got. Anyway, so there's nothing to drink here, so I thought I'd pull over. I missed my exit because I wasn't paying attention. It's a chicken. There's nowhere to buy stuff downtown. No, there's not. Yeah, there isn't. It boggles the mind. I know. This is a center of people. And even outside of downtown, you've got to go quite a ways to get to a gas station. Yeah. There isn't even one on just the couple streets over from the downtown center. You've got to have the only state in the country that has downtown capital that actually closes after 5 o'clock. Yeah, I don't understand it. I mean, like, people live here. Right. Like, they built a bunch of the condos and stuff. Like, people are living down here. Where are they getting to live down here? But it's completely dead right now. Yes. I don't understand.

Actually, and I kind of thought it brings to fruition one of my ideas. I really – I meant to do this at the Sonic. There's an abandoned Sonic in Altoona, and I was going to open a Bendo Land. Right? Oh, yeah. It's a vending machine paradise. It's right next to the Prairie Meadows Casino, right? Absolutely. There's all kinds of ramblers in and out of there at all hours, right? With coin. And so if you have a vending machine that has – because all the Casey's – Casey's is the primary gas station in Altoona. They close down at 11, right? So if you want a late-night soda, you've got to go in somewhere. So I figured I could set up a soda machine. Since the casino's a bit of a seedy establishment, I could sell undies in a machine. You could find a way to sell liquor. Undies. Hold on, dude. Let's back up here. I just lost my shorts. Listen here. Listen here. Give me a scenario where that would happen. I was kind of curious. I'll put it this way.

If you are in need of underwear so desperately that you'll buy it at a vending machine, that will save your life, right? Like the type of situation that you get in where you're like, I need a pair of undies. And you can charge a good amount for that because, I mean, if they need it, they need it. All right. Fine. Fine. You've done this to yourself, Casey. I need a scenario. So you've been at the Prairie Meadows, and you're drinking heavily, right? Right. There's something funny. I'm glad you're stereotyping me. There's an old woman that hits the jackpot, and you find this funny because she's got three chins. Right. And you're laughing because she's jumping up and down, and her chins are wagging around. I'm laughing. You can't control yourself laughing, and you do them yourself. I assume I do something myself. You probably had a KFC chicken chicken earlier. Right. Probably slid right on out. So that's what you've done. Now you're in a real pinch because you can't tell anybody that that's what you've done. Right. Right?

Daniel. Just following the theme. Right. So you can't tell anybody. So then you're walking out, and you're walking funny out of the parking lot. You're in your car, and you're trying to— Everybody will see me going out, though, with this. You're trying to keep your butt off the seat. Right. So that you're not smashing it against yourself. But you would have to have some sort of sign that directed people because they wouldn't just inherently know, let's check the vendo area for underwear. I'll put up a sign that says, go ahead and pull in. It might happen. We might have it. Whatever it is. We might have it. So anyway, so then you say, okay, we're going to meet up. You're going somewhere else to have a good time elsewhere, but you don't want to give up on the night. You can't go home. People are going to wonder why you're going home. And you don't want to trudge through the Walmart in your dirty scundies, right? So what you're going to do is you're going to go to the vending machine. You're going to take whatever size of it. We're going to do large sizes.

That way there's no chance of buying too small. We do briefs. You're going to pull up and say something like, you know what? I need a soda. I need a soda. And then what you're going to do is they're not going to say, well, we'll meet you there. And then you pull up, and you get yourself some undies out of the vending machine. You change them in the car. You discard the undies in the fat fryer that's at Sonic. Right. Leftover. And you go about your business. Could you sell a chicken sandwich wrapped in undies? Probably not in a vending machine. I'll just say. I'm pretty sure I can't get them pre-ordered. Leave it to Dan. That does bring me to something else I would like to sell. And that's aged fast food, right? A day-old donut? No. It's within a couple hours. Let's say the McDonald's makes me up a bunch of Big Macs or hamburgers or whatever. And just once an hour, they come and dump it into the back of this machine. And it's a heated machine.

Isn't that a health hazard? Why? It's heated. I don't know. I'm just asking. That's what they do there. They make them and they keep them hot, right? So then I'm just asking them to bring them to me. And then I will vend them. And I'll vend them for cheap. Then I don't have to deal with the guy at the front of the drive-thru. I just say, here's my dollar. Give me that lukewarm hamburger. I mean, if you're vying for the McDonald's hamburger anyway, this can't be the top of your culinary expectations. You might as well just pull off and make off of it. There is a guy that, and this was a couple years back that I saw this, but there was a guy in town that started his own little company that would deliver fast food to you. Wow. But I don't really understand, though, how much would he have to charge? Because that would take him a while. Oh, I got you. I got you on that. Me and Mike very much explored that business model. It's the food cab. We'd like to set it up in Iowa. So here's what you have to do.

You probably have to have $5 or $6 add-on. That's a lot. Not including tip, right? And then you'd also have to work out a deal where there's like a 15% to 18% leverage with the restaurant. Yeah, true. They pay $5. We get 18% of that or whatever. To be able to pay your drivers a decent wage at like $10 an hour so you don't have to hassle with the tip, it's like a $5 or $6 delivery fee and an 18% margin on the food. And you can make money doing that. Food cab. I thought about this too much. Food cab. I don't – I can't see myself paying $6 extra. Yeah. You know, maybe – No, actually – no, he's actually on to something because people like convenience. That's what they like. People will pay for convenience. They want to actually do this. So he's on to something actually. I would do it. The only thing I have a question about is the fact that people that eat – I mean, do we like, for example, McDonald's. Let's take McDonald's, Wendy's. I don't care. Whatever you want.

How many of us actually take that food home and warm it up later and eat it? No. I would never do that. No, I think it's disgusting. I struggle with pizza a little bit. Because I'm not a big cold pizza fan. Maybe people love cold pizza. I'm not that guy. No, I don't either. I'm talking about like Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King. I mean – There's one time that I've done that. And that was when McDonald's used to sell those – they used to have 28-cent hamburger days. I've heard a lot of people do that. And I bought like 50 of them. Right. And so I overbought there, and I ate some. But how was – I mean, when you nuke them in the microwave, that completely – I don't care what mom or dad says. It does not taste the same. No. No. It's spongy and icky. It's disgusting, gross, and immoral. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

In that order. Wait a minute. So to Des Moines bum on the chat, so are you saying microwaving a double cheeseburger four days later, like that's for you, and you like it, or you've done that, and you don't – and it was foul? Again, it was disgusting, gross, and immoral. Yeah, I can't imagine that would be good. I do – I will eat, you know, like frozen pizza, and you eat it the first time, and you kind of just – usually after you take it out, you put it on top of the oven, you cut it up, and eat it. And I'll leave it there for a good day or two and still eat it from right there. And I think it still tastes good, actually. No. You with me? I like me and Cassidy or the same boat here. I'd go with the sugar-coated hot dogs first. Sugar-coated, yes. Yeah, that's just me. I mean, it's still good to me. I tried once. I was like, that didn't work. Jack's Pizza. Maybe because it's kind of like cardboard in the first place. I don't know. But, I mean, you know, Jack's Pizza, and I come back the next day, and it's actually still the same. Well, some people get very heated about that. They want to convince me, like, no, no, it's exactly the same. Don't worry about it. It's exactly the same.

Just nuke it and everything else. But, no, it's not exactly – like you were saying, it's spongy. It doesn't work for me. It's completely – yeah, it actually turns me off a fast food at that point. I'm actually not much for leftovers as a whole. Like, it's really going to be something flashy for me to really like it. I don't know. Dan? I'm very passionate about this issue. I'm sorry. Dan, leftovers? No. No, wait. And I want leftovers by taste comparison, not because it's economical. Right. Generally, leftovers go to work with my wife. She eats them at work? She'll eat them at work. Okay. And they often go moldy in our refrigerator. Right. I'm with you on that, yes. Some food I'll do. Some stuff tastes better the next day. Chili, better the next day.

Okay. I can deal with that, right? I'm not a big leftover fan either. My wife is huge into that because she's very, like you said, economical. So, therefore, it just makes sense. And that's the way she grew up. But, of course, in my family, we didn't grow up that way. So, we ate it once. Whatever didn't get eaten, basically. I mean, we probably, again, we could probably feed quite a few families in China. Yeah, my wife and I have good intentions most of the time with the packaging of the leftovers. And then it kind of just ships in and ships out, you know. In about three minutes, they're like, what was this? Yeah. You started nuking it. I think it was chicken. Yeah, it's getting drier and drier the more you nuke it, you know. I mean, it's getting harder and harder, okay. Like I said, and that was just macaroni. I was just talking all of a sudden. Well, so what things, here's the question, what things are worth, and maybe this would be nothing to you, but what things are worth saving and – I think Dan's hit it. No, I think you've hit it. I think chili.

Well, but I don't know if takeout counts because that's kind of good in the first – you know, you do take leftovers home from a restaurant. Sure. But something that you would have at home, you know. I think Dan's right on it, and I think it's things like chili or things like chili. Like we made some – Yeah, chili did. My wife will make chili or she made some kind of like Mexican soup. I think soup works. Yeah, like a soup would do it, right, because like the moisture can't go away. It's pretty much moisture. That's all it is. Exactly right. Correct. And then spaghetti seems to hold up. Like spaghetti for me – It's okay. Like big pots of spaghetti seems to hold up okay for stuff like that. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. Not my favorite. Not leftover spaghetti. It's not my favorite. I'll do leftover sauce, but then I'll make new spaghetti.

Yes. I'm like doing that. Well, actually, what I won't do is I won't do uncombined noodles. Like if the sauce and the noodles were combined, that generally tends to work out okay for me. But if the sauce and the noodles are separate, using those noodles separate again tends – Yeah. They're pretty nasty. Yeah. Yeah. My wife did have to say on the chat here that she doesn't allow me to eat the leftover jacks anymore on top of the oven. Now, is that something that you agreed to or she – No, I mean I'd do it. Okay. You know. Believe me. If she's gone for the weekend, I'm definitely not cooking, so it's probably a jack's pizza. And it's probably been eaten the next day. So you should never tell your wife you leave pizza on the counter for two days. True. Which I don't do that anymore. No. No, no. I don't. I called myself out, but yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I don't know if we have this issue or not, but do our wives ever get offended if we don't eat the leftovers? See, mine does, actually. But she gets very offended, for example. I mean she's like – well, she makes the dinner, number one, so I'm not going to say too much there. I'm very happy and thrilled that I come home and she makes the dinner. But usually it's like the same thing for the third or fourth night in a row. Now, it's fine for the kids. You know, they're kids. They'll eat whatever, okay, as far as I'm concerned, okay? But when I come home, I'm not really big into the leftovers. Do you guys ever deal with your wives? Do they ever get really upset? For example, when you kind of sit there, I pick at it. I maybe nibble a little bit. With the first eating or the leftover eating? The leftover eating, yes. The first eating, you know, I mean I always chow it no matter what. But like the ninth or tenth night, you know, we're still having like turkey or, you know, it's getting drier and drier and crunchier and crunchier. You save stuff for that long? No. Well, not me. Ninth or tenth night. I just kind of pick at it, you know. See, we've learned to maybe scale down the recipe. Oh, there's not an army here.

Right, right. Oh, there's only four of us. Okay. Now, how about, I have a thing with though, whether it's your own fridge, usually you're keeping track of what's in your fridge, right? So like you know how old something may or may not be. Sure. But especially if you're at somebody else's house and like something like mayonnaise or something similar where you don't have any reason to believe it's not good. Right. But you don't know that it is. So I just can't do it, you know. Like mustard you can rely on for the most part. But I mean making a sandwich and or even the meat. I want to see the crack of seal. Yeah, you just don't know. And again, you have, you know, you kind of smell it, you do your thing. Yeah. You have no reason to believe that it's bad, but. Well, you kind of look around the house and say, well, how do they, I don't know, how they keep their house is probably how they keep their food, you know. Yeah, you need some sort of like leading questions to ask them. Because you can't just say, I guess you could, depends on whose house you're at, right? Right, yeah. But I mean like you may not want to say, hey, is your stuff bad? Yeah, yeah. You know, so you may try and work around the question and ask, when's the last time you just said that? Remember when you purchased this?

But what type of leading question can you ask elsewise? You can say, hey, what brand is this? What's the sodium content? And look for the expiration date. Actually, no, number one. Well, true, but you could do that. Like, I'm assuming they're not like, how did you look into their fridge? So I'm assuming you could have already done that. If you fall short, what is the type of question you could ask to insinuate, hey, when was the last time you went to the store without asking that? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Actually, just the only thing, whenever I go to somebody's house, the only thing I really drink, if it's not in a can or a bottle, I won't drink it. I mean, basically, because, for example, if they offer me a glass of milk, no. I mean, how do I know that they haven't backwashed it, you know, like, I drank out of it a number of times, things like that. Does that make sense? Do you guys get in trouble for doing that? That's a good parano… That's borderline paranoid, though. It is paranoid, but I don't… I mean, there's a lot of people that serve stuff in glasses that I would… I mean, they can't give you the whole carton of milk. No, no, they can't. No, I don't want… I mean, I don't know if they've drank out of it, like, you know, taken the cart, you know, drank out of the top and everything else, or if they… If we know Matt's coming over, we have to buy individual milk carts.

Yes, exactly. That's what I want, okay? I don't want to say, I want cans, I want bottles. Yeah, you're pretty demanding. I am pretty demanding. I'm not saying I don't respect that position, though. I mean, there's a man that says, you know what, I'm not taking any chances just for the hospitality's sake, and I appreciate that about you. I don't, exactly. So, I'm just saying, otherwise, I just go thirsty. That's it. I think that's… Well, now we're not. I even question if they even wash their silverware half the time. Now, that's gross, though. Now, people do not keep a good eye on their silverware, and I'll tell you something. I'll tell you something. I don't understand. Like, when there's food left over on the silverware scene, what my wife will say is that, well, it's been disinfected and washed. I say, but it's still there. It's still there. It's still there. Yes, that's gross. I'll run that thing three times to the dishwasher. Yes, thank you. I do as well.

Yes. There's no way that I'm, like, scraping it off and putting it away. Yeah. So, I had to start… Now, I don't take this the wrong way. I don't do all the dishes in our house. But, like, probably at least once or twice a week, I try to take a gander through the dishwasher and make sure I've got to look at the stuff that's coming out of it. Absolutely. Because, yeah, like, I just can't take that stuff. Yeah. I can't take it. This is pretty nasty. I'm not doing it. No. Ain't going to happen. No. I'll go to McDonald's first. There you go. Exactly. Eat a new hamburger. Dan, do you have a bunch of… Do you have any plastic silverware at your house? Do you ever use a plastic silverware? We generally always have a few supplies of paper plates. In case Matt comes over.

I come over. That's all I'm looking for. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I don't even trust you to give me the goodware. Because we've seen him with a little magnifying glass, you know, looking at our silverware. Oh, I am all the time. Exactly. I'm looking for spots. I'm looking for food. It's all sealed. It's gross, yeah. We get them from KFC. Little packs. Yeah. It's a little salt and pepper in it. Olsen, is that true? Are you really eating spam raw? Oh! That's disgusting. Isn't that how you eat it? It comes right out of the can. If there's been a nuclear attack, roll it in sugar. But I wouldn't say that there's a good way to eat spam. Spam is spam.

I would say you just shouldn't be eating it. I agree with that. Why do they call it an email spam? There's no way to make it better. It's a connection. Yeah. I mean, things you don't want. Spam. Spam. Emails, food. No, you've probably made me think. Thank you. I've been accused. So, on this topic of particles on the food from the dishwasher, the accusation is that I will eat a rainbow dog from the quick trip, but freaks out at some tiny particle of food. I find the quick trip to be all the gas station foods available to be fairly clean. I think it's good. Yeah. I mean, I think they keep a good eye on the place. That's the image they portray. Most people, if they see one of the rolling hot dog situations, will run from that. I don't see anything wrong with it. It seems pretty clean, doesn't it? Yeah. And the way they keep the buns down below kind of in a warm drawer, I like it.

Now, did you see that? Did you guys notice? And this has been probably a couple years now, but that quick trip had to switch hot dog containers. They had to switch to the clear containers because people were double-dogging it. Oh, yeah. They were putting two hot dogs in one bun. In the styrofoam packages. Totally makes sense. So they had to switch to clear plastic. Absolutely. You know, we'll hit on that in the newsroom a little later on. We've got a good story about a convenience store-related food situation. Nice. We'll hit on that later. Well, I'll tell you what. So does anybody else? Now, this is not so much true anymore for obvious reasons. I've had to give up a lot of my gas station habits. But really, quick trip, if I had to vote for one, I'll tell you what's terrible. So quick trip would get my – for the most part, for a solid gas station fare that's quick. Casey's probably comes in a second if you're looking for something. I love their pizza. Like a pizza. Yeah, pizza. The pizza is actually very good at Casey's.

It's excellent. But I tell you, the attempts for the come-and-go, like their Nathan's hot dogs, those are not good at all. The get-and-go, not only do they not offer a good selection of cooked food, but their pastries are not good either. Like they keep like a very small – the get-and-go is also not very good. So things with the word – like stations with the word go in it are, to my perspective, are largely unsuccessful at producing food for you to purchase. Quick trip and Casey's definitely get my vote. And both are actually well-lit too, which makes me wish to frequent them. Yeah. Yes. I'm getting mocked on the chat for liking the food warmer drawer. That – yeah. It sounds kind of silly, I guess, but – I do like it. Yeah. I actually wish I had one of those hot dog rollers. I think those would be really cool to have in my place. Like hot dogs ready all the time? See, that's the thing. Like actually, we had a food day at work today, and they bring the crock pot, and it's boiled, I guess, right, and keeps them warm. To me, that is – and I ate it, but to me, that is more gross than it sitting on a roller at quick trip. Yeah. Like just looking at it with the murky water, you know, it just – I don't know. Matt, that sounds like something you wouldn't go near. Oh, no. Nope, absolutely not.

Not going to happen. No, Matt, do you – And we're all drinking out of the same carton of milk. Exactly. That's correct. Yes, exactly. Do you ever purchase foodstuffs from the gas station? Well, I mean, if it's wrapped in a bottle, yes. Wrapped or in a bottle, pretty much, yes. I do go to come and go, but, again, I don't – like you said, I don't buy anything as far as – because you're right. Because anything with the word go in, it actually doesn't have that great of food. So, no, I don't actually buy anything. What does your average, like, let's say, you know, a family dinner look like? Like, what do you mean? Just an average. Pick a dinner. What's your favorite family sit-down dinner? Spaghetti is my favorite. No, she has spaghetti. So there's a little meat sauce in there. She makes this awesome, like, garlic bread and everything. So when she goes all out, she goes all out. It's pretty sweet. Nice. I'm probably not going to eat it at night, too, though.

But I will – like I said, but when she does that, that's usually what it comes down to, yes. A pasta man. A pasta. I'm all into the pasta. Also, love steak. Who doesn't love steak here? Anybody not love steak? Actually, I'm not much for steak. I love steak. Okay. What did you say? I'm a vegetarian. Remember, Dan has to grow all his own food and vegetables because he doesn't know whoever made them is liberal or not. Yeah, that is true. Or at least if they keep it quiet, then he doesn't care. It's just kosher? Yeah, not spiritually. Just what's your political affiliation. No, steak's good. I love steak. I'm a big steak fan. Although it's always funny or sort of awkward if you're a steak sauce guy. Like, I love A1 sauce with my steak. Like, but some people just, if they make you a steak and you touch sauce on it, that's bad news. Yeah, yeah.

Like, the steak's not good enough for you. Exactly. Right. But it's not really that. It just, you know, it adds to it. But my dad used to get mad when we were growing up. And I'm sure, you know, as kids, like, we were probably trying to put ketchup on it. And then he's like, why should I spend this much on good meat? And I get that. Yeah, and I get that. But A1 sauce, you know, it's, I don't know. But, yeah, it was awkward. I was at the in-laws' house, and we were all eating steaks. And it was real good. And I asked if they had any, I was debating if I should even ask or not. And I asked, and it wasn't, like, a big deal. But I felt, you know, like, she's like, well, we don't normally, we don't normally use sauce for the steak. Like, oh, well, I don't. And then you got to really change real quick. You know, I don't need sauce. I mean, this is great. It was great. Don't get me wrong. It was great. Yeah, yeah.

But I just like a little sauce. I don't even like sauce. Maybe it was like my dad. Maybe he just, like, you know, the meat has taste, you know. And that's why I just, yeah. Why do you use sauce when you have salt? Oh, I do the salt, yeah. I'm all about the high blood pressure. Don't get me wrong. Well, you'll get medication for it later. They'll take care of you. I'm fine. I'm going to. That's just delaying the problem. I'm going to give you a little more description on this buffalo chicken log that's on the chat. So it's a solid chicken in the shape of a log? Is that right? I don't even understand. Is that the QT? That's gluttonous. I don't know. It's way too gluttonous. Chicken-looking egg roll? Or egg roll-looking chicken, yeah. Is it a blazing wrap?

Like, is it a, like, is it a, like, is it a, oh, no wrap. Just, just a piece of chicken in the shape of a log. In the shape of a log. What makes it buffalo? So it's, okay. Yeah, it's because I was talking about the end log. Are buffaloes implicitly hot? Yeah, what's with that? Yeah. Buffalo. Like, do people just happen to season buffalo meat so that it's hot? Or, like, are buffaloes, like, spicy on their own? Because people, like, aren't they always? Like, is anybody a mild buffalo? I think it is kind of mild, isn't it, by nature? Is buffalo the same thing as a bison? Is that the same animal? I think so. Is it? I don't know. It's just getting too intellectual. I'd say we eat both of them and see if there's a different one. That I can do, yes. In a vegetarian way. Well, okay.

So does anybody eat anything that comes in a log? The computer doc says he doesn't eat anything that comes in a log. No, peanut log. Cheese log. Peanut log is good. Computer doc, how about that peanut log? Yeah. Take a think on that one. Oh, when I was a kid, we'd go to Stucky's. Remember those all along? Those little Stucky's, Stucky's? I don't know what they were called. They were, like, highway gas station things. No one else was alive in the 30s, Dan. Back in my day, they had these little places. You'd have all these little trinkets you could buy. And they had, like, little fancy candies. And we'd get it. Every once in a while, if we were on vacation, we'd get, like, the peanut log, you know. Oh, man. We never ate it all, but I loved it. I thought I was going to eat the whole thing. And Stucky's? Stucky's. Did they have these sort of hot dogs?

They had these little vending machines with these goopy little toys that were just, you know, eccentric stuff. Was there underwear in there? That could be. We probably bought paper underwear in there. I don't remember, but. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, bison is a Greek word meaning ox-like animal. Why buffalo originated with the French fur trappers who called these massive beasts bouettes. Huh. So, there you go. My wife likes to call me bison boy. I wonder what that is. I'm going to regret having known that, Daniel. Yeah. I'm going to wish I hadn't had. You're an ox-looking kind of guy. Between that and velvet crush. Yeah. I really, a couple things I didn't want to know about Daniel. That's been the path. We have talked about food for 43 minutes. That's pretty much true for the last four years.

So, where would we be without food? That's actually true. This show is primarily centered on Jesus and marshmallows. And those are the two options that we have available. It's eat or die. I mean, it's like. Although, if I can. It's pretty serious. If I can combine the two, Daniel. Eat and die? No. No, Jesus and marshmallows. You definitely can. Or Jesus and food, for that matter. I have not been all that impressed. And we've talked about this. I'm not sure what's going on with this juice at the communion. Has it been bad again? Because I corrected the situation at one point. It's gotten better. But I seem to think sometime within the last couple weeks. We have different teams. Saladon's been tasting funny about this juice. Somebody's probably thinking, well, I'll save 20 cents and get the Hy-Vee brand. Let's not do that.

Get Welch's. I always say, tell him, get Welch's, get Welch's. Christ would not be happy with that. Dan, I like that you're sticking your guns on this deal. Because I did notice it. I think Dan spaced out there for a second. I'm sorry. His wife is, we're trying to verify the truth of Bison Boy as a nickname. You just sound a good old cow. I'll have to admit it. I call myself that. I look in the mirror and say, hey, Bison Boy. And if it's the appropriate mood. Hey, Velvet Crush. As you dim the lights to talk to yourself. I'm going to make me a shirt. That's terrible. You've got a lot of personality. One side, backside, Velvet Crush. I'm a Barson Boy. Dan, if you're really dimming the lights to refer to yourself in the mirror. He's got a glass of wine. I've got to practice for him. You're looking pretty sweet tonight, Heldon. Yeah, okay.

I think it's time for a break. This is derailed. I wasn't. I had a panic Bison Boy button, and I didn't get to use it. Yeah, all right. Well, I think. Oh, is that going to be a promo? I'm going to totally regret it. Well, I think we are going to take a quick, we'll take a five-minute break. If you can reorganize yourselves on the chat. Dan's wife, if you can try to verify the past 15 minutes of Dan's discussion, that would be great. I say we go get something to eat. Yeah, so we're going to take a quick break. You're listening to Live from the Path at Des MoinesAmplified.com. She said, call tonight. She said, hit me. I don't hate him. I'm just talking to getting my money. Did you guys notice that they started painting the inside of the ketchup bottles red? Yeah. Nobody likes it. Nobody likes it. You know, that's outrageous. Like, I really, I had a moral dilemma as to what to do. The name's right.

He's a dirty cat. I know that of him. Even as a believer, I've seen people like that and go, man, you're a freak. Right. You don't want to believe. You need to turn this step. I don't believe, you know. We're on the same team, in theory. I am a doofus. It's like that time you claimed that you created the peanut butter that rolls up like a deodorant. I like that one. Well, you know, I've never ever said, I hope someone looks at a literal interpretation of my underwear. No, no, hold on. Let's back up to the tomato situation. That's terrible. You can buy this in miles for $19.95. And here's a little G's at the beauty of it. I've said too much. And we are back. You are listening to Live from the Path at Des MoinesAmplified.com. You can also catch our archive show, a show from last week and from three weeks ago, on LiveFromThePath.org. We also, that commercial is also there, in case you really want to enjoy it in your free time. It's available on that stage. Also, just as a reminder, we are all from Pathway Church in Johnston. You can see our website at ThePathOnline.org.

We would love to have you out, coming out to the service. I put on our website that if you're looking for a church, that's where we'd like you to check out. But I was thinking about that this week. And actually, if all you are is looking for a church, like a place to sit your butt and take in Jesus' words, this may not be the place for you. Like, this is really a place we'd, it's much more important that you're looking for Jesus and looking for a relationship with Him. And we'd love to have you come out and be supportive in that. The church family should exist to enhance or to provide support with your relationship with Jesus. So, again, this isn't the one to hike from your comfortable seat on the right-hand side of the pew. The chairs are not all that comfortable. We do have to set up and tear down the place every week. It is quite a bit of work. But I think God's moving in it. So, you know, we would love to see you out there. And I think it would be great if you could come out and kind of experience with us. So, Dan, do you have anything to add about that? Have I covered the church appropriately? I think you covered it well. We will be serving hot dogs. With sugar? With sugar. Okay. Starting next week. Okay. In the cafe area? We do have a nice cafe, though.

Yeah? Yeah. Like, you know, there's donuts and coffee and stuff. And, you know, honestly, not crappy donuts. Yeah, they're good. I've been to some churches where they literally give the leftovers or somebody made them. They call them coffee donut for a minute because they taste terrible and you have to dunk it in the coffee. There's a reason to come early. Yeah. Because sometimes they run out of donuts. Besides Jesus, I mean, I decided to worship early. Jesus ate donuts. Right. I know he did. He would have. He would have. Yeah, I think he supported. They're portable. He was made on the move. He did a lot of bread stuff. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one thing I will say is that I've been church shopping a little bit.

You know, I was going to a church in Norwalk and, unfortunately, it was just time to move on. I live in Altoona now, so it's kind of a long drive. So I did a church there in Pleasant Hill. It was a very good church, by the way. But, of course, just really wasn't feeling like I really got spiritually fed. But ever since I've been to Pathway, I will say that I'm feeling it. I'm definitely feeling the – I'm getting spiritually fed. I feel like it's such a – it's just such a nice community. I mean, it's growing. I like being part of something that's growing. You feel like – you know, I've been to some big churches. Things are going well, but it kind of seems a little stagnant. But I would say the Pathway is definitely not that church where I feel like it's stagnant. I feel like there's something going on there. I think it's the foot massages. That did help. I will say that much, you know. I did see a little foot massage going on, actually, last Sunday trying to help someone go in labor. How'd that work? Not you. You didn't go in labor. Sorry. There was no baby yet, so I would assume that it was entirely effective. All right. No, I'd agree with you, Matt, though.

I mean, my wife and I were – we were at a bigger church for a while and for about a year. And we liked it, and we liked the head pastor a lot and everything. And so, you know, most any church, you could say the same thing. There are a lot of things to like, you know. And obviously, if they're centered on the Word and on Jesus, I mean, that's ultimately the thing. You know, you're going to like that, of course. But, you know, for us, the church just started to feel too big, and we tried our couple shots at getting into a group or, you know, whatever. And, you know, sometimes you feel new or you feel disconnected, and sometimes you're looking for someone to kind of reach out a little bit or at least you're – you know, you know you need to put in your part, of course, and maybe at least be available to be reached or, if not, do your own reaching out. But it can be a little intimidating in a big church. And, you know, we really felt the pathway was just the right size. You know, we were able to get plugged in right away. We had a – right when we joined, I'm a big basketball guy, and they just happened to have a basketball team joining up right then. It was perfect timing for me, and they've got sports all the time and, you know, small group studies and all those kind of things. And, you know, it just really felt right for us, you know, and we really felt it was centered on the right thing. Sometimes you – in the bigger churches, I mean, ultimately, and you've got to remember that they are doing things for the right things, but sometimes it starts to feel like you're doing things just to do them. It becomes ritualistic.

Yeah, yeah, and it just feels – sometimes it feels too big, and, you know, they're doing the holiday things, and it's just – yeah, it just is kind of a show, you know. And, well, we definitely have fun, right, Dan? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not just fun for the sake of fun, just to make you feel good, you know. You have to be very intentional to make sure that the church is a church and doesn't cross the line into a business where we're just trying to reach the next level. I mean, we're always, you know, want to grow and everything, but to be honest, we're not trying to impress anybody. You know, we're just who we are. We're not going to try to fake like we're something else because that will attract more people or something, you know. We are who we are, and we love Jesus, and that's really what it boils down to. Well, it's working, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, it's working, absolutely. I think you've got your heart in the right place, you've got your mind in the right place. And that's what I really loved about it is it bothered me. One of the biggest things that bothered me about the larger churches, and, again, you know, I say this, and don't get me wrong, they're doing their own great work in a different way, but what bothered me a little bit, and I've heard from other people who share the same thing about sometimes it's difficult in a large church to feel connected, is I felt like sometimes they were missing the huge opportunity they had to really just share the message.

Like, all the other stuff is fine, and even the, you know, you're going to have your theme for the week or for the month, and all those things are fine too, but ultimately it just comes down to one thing, you know, knowing Christ and following Him, and that's what I just felt like. You know, you had this large amount of people sitting attentive, and they almost sometimes wanted to step it back a little because they wanted to be sure they would come back next week. Right. You know, and that's a different, yeah, well, and that's a, you know, and I can see that somebody may say, well, that's the theory behind, you know, maybe we want to, it's going to be a trickle thing, right? We don't want to come out too strong, and then they never come back. But you can come out strong without being offensively strong, you know? I mean, strong is funny because, I mean, I don't think Jesus was weak on His talk, you know what I mean? Right, absolutely. And I don't think a pastor should be, I don't think a church should be. I think you should, you know, own the message and give it, and hopefully have some good conversations about it and not be afraid to, you know, and not to offend somebody, but afraid that you're going to come off too strong. But they need to know the message, you know, this may be the only chance that they're going to hear it. I need to be more afraid of God than man. Right.

I mean, the message of the cross is offensive, and the message of being what a Christ follower is, it is offensive to people. And you know what? That's what, I mean, I can't change that. I can't, you know, suddenly say, well, we're just going to go Jesus-like, you know? Right. I can, but then I might have a huge church doing that, but that's not a Jesus church. And not that a big church isn't a Jesus church. I'm just saying, if you start compromising, that's where you get in trouble. And it's really interesting to say that, because that was actually one of the things, I've been reading a book this week, it's called Forgotten God, it's by Francis Chan. And there's a particular paragraph, and I'll just go ahead and read it, because I thought it was really interesting. He said, we've created a whole brand of churches that do not depend on the Spirit, a whole culture of Christians who are not disciples, a new group of followers who do not follow.

If all God asked for were faceless numbers to fill the churches, then we would all be doing all right. Most of us would feel pretty confident, but simply having a good speaker, a service that is short and engaging, a good venue, and what else we add to the mix does not make a good or successful church. God intended for His bride, those who claim His name to be much more than this. God is not interested in numbers. He cares most about the faithfulness, not the size of His bride. He cares about whether people are lovers of Him. And while I might be able to get people in the doors of a church or auditorium if I tell enough jokes or use enough visuals, the fact remains that I cannot convince people to be obsessed with Jesus. Perhaps I can talk people into praying a prayer, but I cannot talk anyone into falling in love with Christ. I cannot make someone understand and accept the gift of grace. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. So by every measure that actually counts,

I or we need the Holy Spirit desperately. And this whole book, the whole book was interesting. Again, it was Forgotten God by Francis Chan, and it was about kind of our traditional neglect of the Holy Spirit. Like, we kind of, like, even if you get the message of grace, like, the daily walk or the seeking of the Holy Spirit and everything that can be done through the Holy Spirit in your life and really going after that is something that, you know, that we just ignore. Like, that's kind of just putting in the motions. And I will actually, I will admit to being guilty of this for maybe a different reason is I very much have, I have faith that the Holy Spirit may radically change my life. And there's a discomfort with that. There's a thought that, you know, at any point in time, and we've kind of talked about this in our small group, too, is that, you know, if I really, you know, let it all go and say, and say, Spirit, do whatever you're going to do in my life, he could ship me off to India without my wife and kids. Like, who knows? And that's not saying that that's his purpose for my life. But, I mean, really anything could happen,

and it's that little bit of faith, you know, that little bit of hesitancy that I very much recognize in my life and that, you know, that I'm praying towards because it's something where I believe it. I believe it's true, and I know that something very, very real could change my life. And, you know, maybe it takes me somewhere where there's no double-down available, right? There's no McDonald's anyway. Do you think God would do that? I think he might. Wow. Or he might move me to India and then build a KFC there. You can't even eat meat there. It's very popular. Well, you can eat chicken. Isn't it? It's beef. That's the problem. It's like animals. You can't kill cowl. It could be your cousin. Spicy bison. Right. Anyway.

You know, here's what I firmly believe. This is part of my, really my passion that drives me in ministry is that life is a vapor, and no matter how old you are now, you're going to blink your eyes and it's going to be over. I mean, all of us are going to hit that moment where, you know, it's our last breath. And when you're young, you think you have, like, forever, but you can talk to an 86-year-old person who still thinks they're 16 in their heart. You know, I mean, it just, man, it just flies. And all that matters in life is that you're ready to meet your maker. I mean, period. That's it. So that's really everything we try to base our ministry on is preparing people to meet Jesus, get them on the path to God, help them take the next step. I mean, that's the whole path thing is, you know, we get all preachy here, but that's what it's all about. That's all that matters because it's going to happen to all of us. You know, I go back to Sean Engeldinger that passed away in October. You know, we just met him a few years ago, very far off the path, he would have said at the time, and so much came on fire for God, and no one saw him dying instantly one day while working out, but he did. And we were able to have this huge celebration of a funeral service, a celebration of life, we called it,

because we knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had met his Savior. And, you know, that's what Pathways is all about. That's why we moved back to Des Moines area to start a church, is so that people would see Jesus and live forever. Yeah. There's my preachy. I agree. I like it. It's hard to follow that up. Hot dogs. Yeah, hot dogs. There you go. Back to food. See? See? Marshmallows and Jesus. It's, you know, that was one of the things I, you know, I used to stay away from, I used to stay away from non, like, books that weren't the Bible. I'm like, the Bible is sufficient. And it is, of course. But sometimes it's interesting to me, I'm trying to just branching out a little bit, and it's not the words that people are saying. Like, they're just reproducing things that God has already told you. Sure.

But sometimes it's just sharing in the passion with which people approach things. You know, sometimes if you're running the Passion Parade on your own and you feel like that, that's where it becomes very difficult to maintain that level of even just physical worship. And actually, that goes to kind of what we started with when we were talking about the church, is that's where the church should be supportive. Like, you should be, you know, the reflection of God has given a consistent message, right? He doesn't say, you know, Matt Cassidy, you know, you can go about your business this way, and then, you know, Zach, you know, I want you to do it this way. Like, he might lead you in different ways. However you interpret it. Yeah, exactly. There's one interpretation. Exactly. Everybody's got the same message, and to be in a church that is supporting that, where you can tell everyone else is that engaged with the Holy Spirit and with the direction that it can take you in your life. Like, that's where I think you have, when you have growth, the building is irrelevant, that, you know, the message, to a certain extent, is irrelevant because it's already available, right? It's biblical. Hopefully, you're just getting, you're just finding dedicated time for someone to give you what's in the Bible that you could have gotten on your own. But it's, like, that's where your, you know, your ministry comes into play. It's the passion of the people that are behind it, that are living out that message, that are trying to, you know, make sure it was clear, make sure you got it and you understood it. So, you know, I don't know.

I get a lot out of that. I get a lot out of seeing and being around people that are approaching it in that same way. Well, I think it's interesting to kind of note as well that a lot of people, when, a lot of people who aren't going to church or who may not care to be reading the Bible or whatever the case, but, you know, say they're seeking a little bit or they hear guys like us, you know, talking about it and they have questions or whatever, a lot of times when you talk about the church and you talk about Jesus and all these things, they kind of conjure up images of, you know, getting up at, you know, 6 a.m. to get the best seat in the, you know, in the place. Yeah, yeah, you know, and the kneeling and the standing. Or just whatever the, whatever you may think of. A lot of people, I think, conjure up images of things that it just isn't. Now, maybe given some places it may be, maybe you've been to places before that are like that. But I just think that the church, and this obviously will differ from place to place, but I think the church has come as a whole so far these days. You know, you could say, okay, it's contemporary. Now, sometimes that I feel like goes a little overboard where, you know, they got too many electric guitars, you know, and not enough meaning in the… Too many? Too many. I don't know about that. Well, but the point I'm saying is… Turn it off. But the point I'm making, though, is, you know, that they get… Yeah, and they're showing the flashy videos, and they're making it contemporary, like, yeah, wear holes in your jeans, you know? And it's like, okay, come on now, you know?

Like, we don't need to go that far. But contemporary in the sense that, you know, it feels like a home. It's just different, I think, than, you know, a lot of people have some preconceived notions in their head. I know people that are like that. Maybe they're over-analytical. Maybe they've got, like I said, those past images or thoughts in their head of what a church is. And, I mean, I guess all I can say is, you know, come check it out. I mean, and at least if you've checked it out once, at least you can say you did it, you know what I mean? And you experienced church today. Hey, it's not the same thing because you went to church ten years ago, or you're the woomer and toomer who comes on, you know, Christmas and Easter. I don't know. That's just not the same thing than what we have. And, like I said, it's not necessarily every church may not be like that. It may not have the same feel. Obviously, like we said, we're all from Pathway. We love Pathway. But whatever church it is, I mean, give it a chance because, I don't know, I mean, I think if you really come openly, regardless of, kind of like what you said, Ben, regardless of what the actual message is, regardless of what the music is saying, I think God will speak to you in the way that you need to hear it, regardless of what anybody is actually saying. Well, I think, and I think that's one of the things, you know, like, it's the thought that you're not, like, if you go to a church, you're not giving, it's not the church that you're giving a chance, right? This is, it's Jesus, right? So, like, that's the thing. In any building, in anywhere in the world that is preaching the gospel, the relevance of the church is not near as important as what it is that you're going, the message that you're going to get, right? Like, God can speak to you wherever you may be, but, like, it tends to be, people tend to get in church because they tend to open up in church, right? You could be in the same position every, what was the, like, the first church, you know, wasn't a building anywhere. It was people, like, meeting in each other's houses and spending time together and fellowship together.

I mean, that, the church is the group of people, and that, you know, the relevance, the, maybe to clarify what you were saying, I think, you know, when you talk about contemporary churches, it's, like, the holes in Jesus are irrelevant, right? It doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter how many guitars are on stage, but sometimes I think what you run into the issue is, is that people try to paint a different face of Jesus as if he's not already culturally relevant, right? As if the things that God, you know, Old Testament God or, you know, stuff from Jesus is not already culturally relevant, and that you have to do something to make it different. Maybe you got, I got holes in my jeans. In fact, I'm probably three out of four Sundays, I got a, I'm wearing a pair of jeans that's got a hole in it, because I can't wear to work. Well, well, don't get me wrong, and I'm not knocking that, but it's the, it's the, the doing it for the sake of, like, like, yeah, like, or like saying, well, we got to be contemporary, like, you have a meeting with your people and say, well, how are we going to be contemporary, you know, that's different than just being contemporary, you know, and doing your thing, you know, which is, which is different than the old thing, I would say, in general. You go to probably most churches around, around the, the city or the country or whatever, you know, you're going to see a lot more of those contemporary type of, of services, and, and a lot of them still might have, if they're a bigger church, a lot of them might still have the traditional service, maybe at 8 a.m., then they have the contemporary at 10 or 11 or something, and so, so they're serving, you know, both crowds. Some, some people still, still want it more the traditional way, but. And what I really love is, is a, a very traditional church that then says, we're going to try a contemporary service, because they think, yeah, we're going to be cool, too, and they get some, like, really bad musicians playing their songs, like, at about third speed that they really should be, and, and it's just like, you're going and going, that's not contemporary, that's a travesty, you know.

Or they, yeah, or like, are they singing it too choir-y? Yeah, yeah. It's like, no, no, this is like a Christian rock man sings this, like, not. No! We are, Dan, we are four for four with you doing that opera voice. Yes! That is true. I don't know how, I don't know how this keeps coming up with a conversation that Dane keeps doing the opera voice. I'm going to have to do a compilation. He actually has a note here you can't see that, he says, make sure you get that in. I can't work in the opera. The choir of bisons coming at you. I think that's velvet coming out. What do you guys think about, you know, there, obviously there, there's things that, that are keeping people from needing to church. You know, like we said, it may be the, the past experiences, it may be, it may be Christians who have, have tried to talk to them that, that didn't go well, or they, you know. They were just jerks. Those conversations, yeah, exactly. We've talked about that before. Or, um, what do you think are, are some of the reasons that, that people aren't, aren't going and, and, uh, you know, and why would that be? I mean, one thing that I can think of is just, they don't see the need for it. Like, they're not, they're not getting necessarily, uh, what ultimately this is, is going to

mean, you know, or what it means now, what it's going to mean then, and they don't necessarily see the need, uh, and that's the thing, you don't have to go to church. You can, you can read the Bible and do it on your own. Now, still the Bible's going to say you, you should go to church, you should have a church family, but, but they, I think, uh, I think, you know, a lot of times they don't see the need of doing it. I think the biggest thing I ever dealt with, as far as that goes, I mean, I, I grew up in, and I'm not here to slam Catholics. I grew up in a Catholic church, uh, up until about eighth grade. And I say that more or less, there's a lot of rituals. There's a lot of, um, almost like there's policies, procedures that need to be followed. So I always got to the point where I just could not live up to those expectations. Um, so of course, you know, knowing that, of course, it almost turns into like a goody two shoes. Like you can't be, you can't really be yourself. You've got to be this, uh, it is all about image. It's all about the way you look, the way you appear, the way you come off to people. So I'd say that's probably a big thing right now, as far as I don't know why I'd want to be a part of a church, but I still, when I deal with more with people that are obviously I'm not good. I'm not as good as these people. And I actually, you know, I, when I gave my life to Christ, I gave it probably back in college. And I still, unfortunately, like you were saying too, I still dealt with those same

types, even, even though it wasn't with, um, it wasn't with, you know, a Catholic church. I was with another different type of church. But again, I started again, getting in and throwing, I mean, I don't know if it's the wrong spiritual crowd. I don't know how to, I don't know if that's even possible or not, but that's exactly what was going on during that time as well. So, yeah. Well, there, there, there's some people though, uh, you know, that there's just a different level of, of there, there's some people who, who might get it, might, might have it there in their personal life, but maybe haven't developed the sharing part of it very well. And, and like you said, you may have experienced that, right? I think the biggest thing as far as what I see with pathway too, is the fact that it's a relational, um, I think people have really lost the, you know, I know Dan talked about communication last week, you know, I was last Sunday and everything else, just, I'm just, just, just the, just the little things with pathway actually can make the biggest difference, such as like greeting somebody and saying hello. I mean, if you want to grab somebody in a church right away, you know, and that's the reason why I started even going back to church was because I finally found a church, you know, at a point in my life where people were just like, well, they're just nice to me. I mean, just like, also we were like all on the same playing field, you know, I wasn't like here to say, oh, here's a guy who needs to be saved. I mean, I probably was, but I'm saying at least I wasn't treated that way as much, you know, we got to save him, we got to convert him, we got to get him, you know, we got to get him, uh, as a term I like to use right with God. Yeah.

Or like it, or like it's a project, you know? And that's actually one thing that I love about pathway is that, you know, there, there are no greeters, you know, there's no one specifically saying, Hey, welcome. And, and like, like they're giving you the business, you know what I mean? And they are, there are, they're, they're undercover. Oh yeah. Right. They're, they're secret. Which means they're doing it well. Yeah. Sorry. Well, well, no, but that's what I mean. Like, but, but like, uh, you know, there's nobody that like, so you can tell when someone has an agenda, even if it's, it's a good agenda, you know, but you can tell when someone has been, yeah, yeah. And here's the pamphlet, you know, and, and, uh, you know, I can grab a pamphlet. I want a pamphlet. Nice to see you today. But, but that's the thing is though, no, you walk in and you walk through the hallway down to the, to the area and, and people will greet you. You know what I mean? Like there's a difference between, between people greeting you naturally than, uh, than someone assigned to, to greet you. And, you know, and we're not stupid people. We can tell when, when someone's doing that.

Right. You know, whether if they're, whether they're doing it direct or whether they're trying to, to, to hide it in the fact that, um, you know, that, that they're not doing it. Right. I mean, how are you? I'm fine. And how are you? I'm fine. Why are you talking to me? Yeah. I don't mind it, but I say, you know, call me sometime. You know, it's like, you're never going to call them. Right. The greeters on the chat. The, the, the, the head of the, I think you're doing a wonderful job. So we're being offensive or what? No, I think you'll probably get balloons on Sunday. He's coming after the two of you. What's that? I think you expect, expect some FaceTime from double Olson on next Sunday. He's coming right for you. I'm not following. He's the greeter. He has a greeting. He's the head of the greeting, the greeting ministry.

You're probably now targeted to be on the greeting ministry, which is good. No, see, then, then, then that's very successful. Yeah. Because that's what I'm saying. We want it to be organic. Yeah. If it looks planned and fake, then it is planned and fake. Right. You don't need to have a badge that says greeter, you know. Right. Nothing feels more fake than, than, you know, the, the fake greeter, you know. I mean, does the guy at Walmart who's 79 years old, who gives you a cart, really care that you have a cart? Right. Right. No, but he likes, he wants to inspect my cart. Yeah. I bring my own bags in. Yeah. Like, I bought those, I bought those bags that you, that you sack with. Are you saving the plan? No. No, actually, that's, now that, now, the lady that I, that, that when I bought them. They're the air marshal of Walmart. She was pretty, she was pretty happy with them, but actually, I, I switched to them because, uh, uh, I can fit way more stuff in them.

Like, you can carry six or seven plastic bags, and I can fit it all in three of those, uh, in three of those, those cloth bags. That's why, God, they're awesome. They're, I take them in every time, but anyway, but then. I'd be embarrassed. I'm just going to be honest. But you don't like to be caught at least appearing to save the planet, as if that's your agenda? It's, it's all a big joke. I'm not concerned about that, uh, personal appearances like that, Dan. I like to go about my business. Why? Why am I a dork? What? Because I, because I use the cloth bags at the Walmart? It's just a little feminine, that's all. Why is it a feminine? That's all I'm saying about it. I mean, it's not, I'm not judging. I'm just, I'm just throwing it out. Do you have the purple bag that says, this is green? Do you wear capris, too? I'm like, are you serious? They only sell it as an advertisement. It's stupid. Do you wear, do you wear men's capris, too, or?

Uh, no. Now, listen here. Right, I mean. Those, I thought, I thought they were longer. I grew out of them. Those, those aren't big shorts. Let's put it that way, Dan. Oh. Now, the woman won't do it either. No, I know. What? Daniel, what is the big deal? I can fit more stuff in them. That's cool. I'm glad that works. So, what is, what is your mockery of me about? I think, I just think the whole green movement's kind of silly. I mean, we need to be responsible. If anyone should be responsible, it should be believers, because we understand God created the earth. But when we're doing it because we think the earth is alive or something, mother earth, blah, blah, blah, crap, you know, it's like, are you serious? You know, that, that, and it's usually someone's out there making money. I mean, it has nothing to do about they really care about saving the planet. Someone's making money.

It was a dollar. I can't imagine it's a profit machine. Well, I can see what you're saying, though, like, maybe not directly with those, but they've commercialized going green. Just like Al Gore, I'll bet you he has realigned his investments dramatically since they found out the whole crap hole about the, uh, the ozone layer that's destroying the earth or what? The whole, the, yeah, the whole global warming thing was a big joke and everybody knew it, but he kept pushing it because he was making billions, you know. I mean, I don't know. Well, he did invent the internet. Yeah. Don't forget that. And again, I probably sound more harsh than I really, because, I mean, I recycle, you know, don't tell anybody that, and stuff. I'm just not freaky about it. Right. Well, no, no, no, right. You're a freak, man. Now, listen here. You eat chicken, uh, bacon. I'm conserving the bun. Yeah, I do agree with Bean, though, on the chat, that, that, uh, the, uh, you, you've discussed your, your car trouble so often that I can imagine that the, the, the exhaust probably isn't the best on, on your trailblazer. You better get another bag.

I drive a, that's the woman's trailblazer. Well, whatever it is, but, he said trailblazer, right? No, I, but. Okay, I do, okay, I do drive the conversion van. That's true. That's true. To get stuff back and forth to church. That's probably negating the, the green, uh, bags. Now, hold on a minute, but I, but I'm taking three guys in that van. Am I not? That's not three dudes driving separately. There's three dudes riding in that van. Uh, we'd like to see you pick up some homeless people on the way as well. No, we tried to do that. He was peeing, he, we tried to pick him up, but he stopped to pee in the bushes, and we couldn't wait. He was outside the cases. Jesus, Jesus can't wait for you. I was afraid he was going to whiz in the van. Do you know how long it takes to hose out that van? What is whiz in the van? You say that, you say that as if you, you've hosed out a van before. It's been done. It sounds like it has. Things happen to that van.

I'm just, I'm just saying. What is, hold on though, is, is, is whizzing in bushes good for the environment? Uh, it's natural. Yeah. Is there a fertilizer? I wouldn't say it was good for the, the bushes. Now, now, hold on. Now, the three dudes can fit into a Kia, but the piano and the, and the bass and all the other equipment we're lugging out cannot. But, I agree with you. Snide bean on the chat. Anyway, so, here, I, I'm in agreement, like, I, like, there's a, there's a thing about being a good steward of, of God's earth. Uh, there's things that I think make sense. I, I think it makes sense. It's like, if I can fit more stuff into that bag, and it costs me a buck to get that bag, and I'm not wasting the plastic bag, because, frankly, it is a waste, it does have to be recycled, I'm in for it. So, yeah, yeah, no, I vote for that. I, here's the thing, I think there's, uh, there's, there's, I'm not going to not do it just because some guy's gonna think, oh, he's a, he's a green piece, right? I'm not a green piece. Yeah, if it makes sense for you to do it. I don't wear a shirt that says, I don't wear the Jesus propaganda shirt either. That doesn't mean I'm not a Christian.

It just means I'm not, I'm not blazing it around. Aren't Jesus shirts a little bit tacky? I think, I think you should live by example. Yeah. People should, people should know, should know you by your, uh, by your example. Pathway shirts are cool. Mm-hmm. Forget the Jesus shirts. Your corporate shirts. You know, Dan, I've heard that it's dangerous when the church tries to become a corporation. And wear those t-shirts available? Uh. You can't buy them online. We don't really sell them. I was going to say, the website, yeah, you can't. We don't really sell them. Then you have to come to church. That's even better. You can have them for free. I mean, we don't, you know, we, you can give five bucks. You shouldn't have said, you shouldn't have said that. Suggested donation. No, that's why Mike has one. Really? Mike took one from the free, free kitty.

Yeah. He's not wearing it today. Because we figure, why would we charge you to advertise our church? Right. But if you want to help cover the cost, that's cool. But if not, you know, we've never chased anybody down. I agree. Well, actually, you know what? And I, I didn't, I was messing around with a bunch of stuff. I was, I was only halfway paying attention during our white people don't, uh, go to church conversation. But, you know, the, um, you know, the one thing I thought of, um, and, and I, I think actually it's the, it's the church that tends to be the barrier. Like, uh, I, I would really encourage people who are, um, who are curious about, about Jesus to, like, I think they have that curiosity, but it's the other people, right? They have to, they have to interact with other people. And I think that's where the hesitancy comes, hesitancy comes in. Um, I don't know why people put off their curiosity about God. Like that comes, that comes, like, this is the spirit is trying to move you when it's saying, you know, like, check it out. Like, here's what, here's what, there's plenty of people that I know, um, that don't feel about it either way. Right. They're like, yeah, you know, I'm not really, I don't really believe in God, but I, you know, I, I've been to church a few times, but like, you know, I, what I don't

understand is, is the, if you even think that there's even a remote possibility that be, be true, isn't it worth the investigation to say, you know what I'm, I'm going to do, and it's as simple as a quick prayer. Look, I don't even know if you exist or not, God, but you know, I'm going to open my heart up to it for two weeks, two days, two hours. I don't care. Yeah. Right. If you open your heart up to God, you're going to see him because he's real. Right. And so, and so what I don't, what I really have, have, have a hard time trying to relate with is the thought that this, there's a possibility that this is true, but I, you know, I just haven't, I haven't put, I haven't tried, and when it's as easy as wherever you're at stopping and saying, you know, I'm open to this God, what do you have for me? So, but I think a lot of times the barrier is the church, and some of it's, some of it's pretty, I mean, some of it's true, some of it's, some of it's the reality of, you know, you believe it, and that's the hindrance, right? Like I was talking about with my, with the Holy Spirit, right? But if I believe it, I believe there will be real consequences to turning my life over in that manner. It's very possible that someone says, look, I know enough about God and his rules that if I turn my life over to that, that drastically changes my life, and I'm not really willing to give that up yet. Right. Which doesn't make sense, right?

Because if you, if you really, truly believe in God and those consequences, you should know enough that you can't continue to live your life the way you're doing it anyway. So it's, it's a bit of a half. But there is kind of a, a transition. I mean, some people may grasp it right away and just make a complete 180. I know like for me though, I realized like now having, having been long removed from, from my original kind of journey into church and, and filling it out and stuff, I realized that I was seeking for a lot longer than I thought I was. Like I thought I was saved and I even, I even sort of, um, when I would hear other people use the word saved, I didn't really like that. Like I didn't get it. And so I felt like, like saved sounded like an agenda or it sounded like something to me that, that, you know, I, Hey, I can believe and, and, and, you know, you call it what you want, but it's always that, why are you saved? And, and, um, but I just didn't, I didn't really get it. I mean, I, I was, I was getting there. And so, you know, I was still kind of living my old ways and doing the new thing and, and which, which was okay. I mean, in the sense of, Hey, I got there, I figured it out eventually and realized, realized the truth, realized, you know, what it means to be saved. And, and, but, but I, uh, you know, years later, looking back, I realized I was actually seeking a lot longer than I thought I was. I thought I was there and I almost resented anybody who kind of questioned that. Right. And, and, uh, whether it would be some of the things I was still doing or just, you know,

the whole, like, well, are you saved? And I'm like, Hey, don't question. I'm saved or, you know, I'm in what I am. And, and, uh, uh, but, but then it, but that's kind of a, a spiritual immaturity at the time that I eventually realized, you know, I had the, I think if you're still asking yourself, am I saved? Like, what if, what if I'm not, then you're probably like, I'm probably not, you know, cause, cause once I, once I was there, like, I have no question today it's, it's there. I, you know, if I died today, I'm, I'm good, you know, but, but at the time I was still like, I questioned that. I'm like, and I realized though, I finally realized, wow, the fact that I'm still questioning that probably isn't a good thing. Let me, let me figure this out. It almost sounds like when you thought you were saved, you thought you were done. Yeah. Okay. A little bit. I think that's sometimes what I hear too. It's like, I get saved. I'm like, I'm done. I'm like, I'm there. I'm cool. And everything else, I'm going to heaven. Well, cause I have no, I've really no word. That's why I don't use the word.

I just don't. Yeah. I try not to. I'm done. I use Christ follower. Cause either you're following or, you know, it's an action word. Yeah. An action word. But that's, but, but, uh, it doesn't, um, and cause I, I agree with what you're saying about the word saved sounds kind of final, you know, and, and, I mean, it is in the sense that if you are, you are, you can't really undo that, but you still have to continue to follow Christ. Don't you think in a way Christ follower might, uh, sound too vague? Like I, like I felt like at that time I was a Christ follower and I think, and, but I think I, even now I would say, I think I was, or I was, I get, I don't know. I guess it depends on your opinion of, of Christ follower. Like I probably wasn't a hundred percent following Christ and, and I don't think any of us can ever get to a hundred percent. I think Matt has. Yeah, probably. Yeah. He peaked at one or two times. Yeah. But that's why Dan allowed me to come to the church. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah. I've been banned ever since that point. So that's true. Ever since that day, you were whizzed in the bushes by the Casey's. Well, yeah, but, but yeah, I don't know. Like, like, cause I felt like I was following Christ or I was on my, on the path, if you want to say, right? Sure. Sure. But, but, uh, but I wasn't, but I wasn't there. But it's like, I know what you're saying. I mean, it's, it's, it's, you know, yeah. I mean, Jesus calls people to follow him. And at some point in there, you get to the point where you're like, oh, you know, and you're really become a follower, you know, and you were probably in this stage where like kind of, kind of figuring him out, kind of, what does this mean? Yeah. And it takes you a while to process that whole thing. And, and, and I mean, your whole life, you're figuring out what's my next step. You know, where, where am I going next? What's, what's Jesus want to do in my life? And I get the journey portion now, I think is what I get more than anything else. I mean, when I keep seeing a journey, I actually get it. Yeah. Again, when I looked at saved, I was done.

I was, I was content. I was fine. But now I get the journey part. I like the way Dan puts it as a Christ follower. I think that's a, that's a, that's a perfect, that's a perfect phrase there. Thank you. Thank you, Matt. Can I come back next Sunday? We'll see. Okay. Fair enough. You'll get a text. We'll have a secret vote. Yes or no. Fair enough. Do you want to see Matt on Sunday? Hey, it's not much of a secret, Dan. We're broadcasting over the radio. Oh. Hey. Let me turn that on. Maybe we should get Double O Olsen to do the secret vote. He seems to work in the camouflage pretty well. Put him in charge of the greeting and the vote as to whether Matt gets to come back. That sounds like we kind of torqued off a greeter, it sounds like.

Is that correct? There's going to be a revolt. Right. It's going to be an uprising. You know, he, he, I think he, he was the realtor on this building that we're in. So, I mean. We're out. I mean, he could take some vengeance. Yeah. Although, just to throw it out there, there are plenty of other spaces available in this Des Moines Partnership Building. And Keith Olsen would, with Rule & Rule, would be glad to help you out. He should sponsor us. He should put you in a position. There you go. We will send you the bill for that sponsor. You know, because we could really say this building has been provided to you by Keith Olsen from Rule & Rule. Although, and that's pretty true. I mean, he didn't buy it or anything, but he was, he had it on the market. It's a lovely building, Keith. Thank you, Keith. Yeah. I really like it. He wasn't here to greet us in the door today, though.

That's true. Keith. Keith, you're a terrible person. Did you ever see. That went a little far. Did you ever watch Planet of the Apes? I mean, like the old time. Like the Charlton Heston version, yeah. Because it's like the old conquest for the Planet of the Apes. They take over the city and they're all coming over the bridge. That's going to be the greeters on Sunday. And they're after you. Oh, that'd be sweet. Yeah. But I won't know they're after me because they do such a good job of. But they're carrying knives. Oh, yeah. We'll probably notice that. And they're kind of swaying back and forth. And they look like gorillas. Yeah. Okay. It's worth trying. I've got to see what happens. I saw a movie with Charlton Heston in it on.

Does anybody get the digital, like the over-the-air digital signal? We gave up on the dish and on the cable. Like we just get whatever comes over free. I can't get it. You don't get it? I got the box and we still can't get it. So anyway, there's a station here in the world that's called This. It's like a movie channel. And there was a movie with Charlton Heston in it. You can barely recognize it. And the thing is that the Ten Commandments ruin me for him. Like I can't take him anywhere else. I can't watch him in anything else after having watched that Ten Commandments relatively recently. Yeah. Like it ruins me for everything else he's in. He was in Planet of the Apes. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. He stands funny too. He's got a weird stance. I'm trying to think of who he stands like. Nope. Gone completely. Anyway. That's the thing about Charlton Heston.

Yeah. I wrote his name in my back here. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure what's happening. I'm just waiting for a transition. Are we going somewhere? Feed me something. Food, guys. Yeah. It was Call of the Wild. That's the way, woman. It was Call of the Wild. He had some kind of dog with him. Like he was in some kind of bar cahoots with somebody else and there was a riot. Yeah. I'm not caught up with my Charlton Heston. Have you seen anything else with Charlton Heston in it? Not lately. Hey, speaking of stuff that's rude. So Pants put together a – he ordered that Bible on CD, like the dramatic Bible. Oh, yeah, yeah. The actors? Yeah. The actors wore it, yeah.

And God bless him. Pants must have sat at his computer for – I can't even imagine how many hours this took for him to like burn it off on a CD so you could listen to it. Like there's 66 books in the Bible. I was at that class, Dan. Dig on that. 66 books. That's good. So anyway, so he burned all this stuff off and I started listening to it and I think Pants and I both agree that – So is that a pirated copy you're saying? No, no. He made a – he burned them all on CD for me to listen to, but you can't listen to it at the same time. As long as you're not listening to it at the same time, it's all right. So is that a pirated? No, it's just a copy of a purchased version. You're allowed to make a copy of it. You just can't enjoy it in two places at once. That's where the – because technically he could have just given it to me. It's a matter of convenience. So you call him and say, Pants, you're listening? Okay, I'm in. I'm in the New Testament. He's in the Old Testament.

Just clarifying. Okay. Yeah. No pirated. Dan, we had that sermon two years ago. I gave up on pirated stuff. That's awesome. I did. I'm done with it. Now, I did – I can't filter the pirated stuff that was already on my computer for the music, so now I don't know what to do with it. So like I only half enjoy a song because it very well could have been pirated. Yeah. So like I'd listen to You Can Call Me Out by Paul Simon and I'm really digging on it and then I frown and then I come back around. It's 30 seconds on and 30 seconds off on pirated music. Well, as long as you're not completely enjoying it, I think it's fine. No, no, no. I weep in the middle. Perfect. Okay. Anyway, so I listen to this and I think Pants and I are in agreement that like for a dramatic Bible, they didn't do a very good job. Like the Satan tempting Jesus in the desert, like the Satan isn't very Satan-y. Like he's just –

Very believable. Or like you expect the Judas to be a bit of a weasel and he's not. Like he's not. And the – but like the Caiaphas, like the teachers of the law are really like, no, Jesus. Moses said that you could write a divorce. You know, like I mean – like it's a bit – but those are a bit overdone. They make it too obvious that they're trying to trap him. Yeah, exactly right. Like some were like way overdone and then some were not done at all. Like I kind of like to hear a hiss in the old, you know, the Satan – I don't know what, you know, the expectation. But then they overdo it on the sound effects too. Like it's when they're taking Jesus up and they're like the soldiers spit at him and then there's like a – like that's what you – like a very loud – Who spits like that? Seriously. The problem was – What would you spit if you did it like that? It was so – it was so loud. Right. I was distracted because all I could think about was the guy in the recording studio like doing it – like doing multiple takes and like doing it wrong. Like no, no, that's not how they would have spit at Jesus. And so like they do it differently and I thought – Lower tone.

Could you do that as a key as C, please? I was totally distracted by it. Well, and if you're going to hire the actors, you know, you expect a little something out of them, right? What's the point of just – just so I can hear his voice read it? I mean, I don't know. That's kind of cheesy. Were there any actors that any of us would know? No. No, I don't think so. Oh. Well, there's ones that are big actors. Like James Earl Jones. Yeah, Denzel Washington. And there's – you know, however many of them. But yeah. And it's weird listening to those ones because – I mean, you just hear their voice and it actually distracts you because you're thinking about like what movies they've been in. Their voice is so recognizable that – So it wasn't like Jim Carrey or – No. No. That would be something. No.

That would be something. Sandra Bullock. Jesus. Their B-list. All righty then. So actually, Dan, that brings up a good point. There's something we were talking about earlier this week. There was a scene in the Bible where Jesus was not yet into his full ministry and his mom had asked him to turn the water to the wine right at the party. Right. And Jesus says, why you bother me with this woman? It is not my time. Now, is it okay to put some sass on that? Because the way Mike did it had some sass on it. Like, why you bother me with this woman? It is not my time. Maybe so. He might have been a little irritated. It's like, I will decide when I reveal, you know, my godness to the world. But he did do it. Okay. Yeah. All right. I mean – So the vote is like, it's okay to put a little sass on it.

There's nothing ungodly about a little sass. It's like, I'm the god here. You're just this – And she knew that. I mean, she had been told that over the way. I don't know how you forget such a thing. Yeah. It kind of was back-talking if you think about it. But – But, you know, he was 30. So – Yeah. That's just a good point. It's not like a teenager back-talking. He was still hanging on with his mom. He was living in his mom's basement. He was probably a blogger. He's a mooch. It's the Jesus blog. You know, he kind of did that on the – when he was 12, though, like when he was with the temple and they lost him for three days. Like, what are you doing? Like, don't you know that I would be in my father's house? I mean, that was a bit of it. Yeah, for a 12-year-old. But then the Bible does make sure to point out that he said they asked him to come back and he did as they were told.

Yeah, he probably didn't say it quite like 12-year-old Ben would have said it. I like the assassin. And then, you know, like, you know, I'm God and this is where I hang out. Don't you know? Well, no, wait. So, Sonia – this is from the chat. So, Sonia says, he did it because real men know when a woman speaks, you better do it. So, that's because Jesus actually did do it. Yeah. Like, he sassed it and then he did it. Yes, ma'am. Well? We still fear women. That's just what it comes down to, really. Yes. We may be the tougher, you know, species, but however – You said that out loud, you know. Yeah, I know I did. Now, wait a minute. This actually goes counter, Matt. This reveals that you don't actively listen to the show because Dan was, I mean, directly belaying the possibility that he might run into a female cop of frail frame and be able to get away with something. Oh, really? Okay. Saw one one day. She was about 98 pounds, about 5'2".

Right. And the thought was, really? You know, honestly, I really do believe that – I've said this many times, not because I want the cheap applause from all the females that are actually listening to this show. But, no, I really do believe women are much stronger than men. And the reason why I actually say that is simply because, again, I saw my wife go through two pregnancies. Obviously, if you've seen your wife go through pregnancies and you know exactly what I'm talking about, that looks like a living nightmare. They say kidney stones are worse, though. I know. I've had one of those, actually. But according to my wife, that doesn't count. Well, no. Can you – I mean, can you vouch for it? Was it pretty bad? Because that sounds terrible. I mean, a kidney stone? Yes. Or birth? No, the kidney stone. The kidney stone was awful. I don't know what happened. It felt like I just had to – I had some – I need to go to the bathroom, but that's not really what it was. Yeah, it was very awful. And the funny thing was, after I passed the kidney stone, it wasn't anything bigger than a piece of sand. It's like a pebble is all it was. I really expected like a rock.

Well, that's what I was expecting, too. I thought it would be very – You say stone. I mean – Yeah, when they stone, you're thinking like it's going to be like as big as my fist or something like that. No, it was actually just like a pebble of sand. I've heard pregnant women say that kidney stones are worse than pregnant. Well, good. Then I guess I have an argument when I go home tonight. Just don't quote me. Yeah, and I'll totally quote being a big baby. Right. Yeah, you go see Velvet Crush about that one. Yeah, talk to Velvet. No, but my wife did it without drugs. So I thought that was pretty stinking amazing. And actually, as I was helping her as she was doing her pushing and breathing and whatever they do at that point, she had her arm around me, and she actually asked me at one point while she's pushing. I didn't even get the kid out yet. She goes, am I hurting you? I was like, who cares? You know, and I said – So anyways, I got to say that I truly believe in some way, shape, or form that women actually are overall stronger than men. So when we have kidney stones, we've got to be able to say that same thing. We just got to –

Am I hurting you? I guess suck it up, I guess. I don't know. I just felt real guilty about, you know, she goes through the deal, and then I get a hold at first. I was the first one to hold it right, yes. And then, you know, it's a little bit of time that other stuff, you know, getting done, and then I'm still holding it. And then, you know, eventually – and I want her to have the baby, you know, and I kind of show it to her. But I just feel – I feel so guilty that I'm like, here, take a glimpse, but I'll be over here walking around with it. That's right. It's really cute. Pretty name Grandma and Grandpa as you're holding it. I already uploaded a photo. You know, everybody else sees it. The world sees it, and she's – Well, you were doing this labor thing. I was worried. Catch up with the times. Yeah. It's old news. Get yourself together here. We've got a kid to take care of. It was actually – I was – I kind of had the same experience. My wife, we did ours. She didn't do – she did it naturally. And actually, we had our second kid at home.

Wow. And we did water birth. We did water with both of our kids. Yep, on purpose. That was the plan. The only person that could harass her at home was me. No, no, no. It seems all right. But – and we did it in water. So, like, we had a little – like, a pool where we had the thing. And I was very impressed. Yes. You know, and I have to – I'm not going to assume that it didn't hurt. I'm just going to assume that, you know, like – That looks awful. That my wife, you know, handled it very well. Of course, she did take the baby. She did – the first thing is that she held the baby. She knows better than to hand that baby over to me. Yeah. They're girls, so I assume they're going to be mine eventually. So she didn't have it at the beginning. But, yeah, but I had that same experience where, like, I – you know, I'm very much impressed. And, you know, it's a real tough thing from a pain standpoint because I always think, oh, I think I can handle pain. But I don't – I really have any idea.

Like, sometimes we're like, I know I'm in pain, but I'm like, I can function all right. And get around and think, oh, I'm great. I'm fantastic. I'm, like, real manly, man. Look at this. I'm handling this business. I could be shot right now. I'd still be walking right now. Exactly. Right? And then I get, like, a headache or something. And I'm down. I'm out. I don't have trouble. Sonny, help me. And then, like, maybe my wife will say, hey, I got a headache. But she's still about doing stuff. Right. Does she have the same headache I have? Oh, absolutely. But my wife could have the flu. I know I'm with you on that. Exactly. She could have the flu. She could be cooking.

She could be cleaning, taking care of the kids, taking care of schedules. I get a cold. And, yeah, I'm literally on my deathbed. I want to be shot. I want to be done with this. Yes. Yeah, I'm a wuss. Yeah. Yeah, I even find myself saying ouch when, like, something happened. But then you realize, like, two seconds later that that didn't hurt. No. But you were already prepared to, like, say ouch, and then, like, ouch, no, that didn't. That was nothing. Yeah. So, again, the whole boy story is, yes, I got to say that I think women are much stronger than men. It's just honestly true. Yeah. So, although we can lift more, I cannot do that type of thing. I don't know. I'm not very big. I don't know. I'm sure a lot of women can lift more. There's a lot of women that can lift more than all of us. Right.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not great at the arm wrestling, you know. If there's a woman that looks even remotely like it could be a struggle, I just won't even do it. I'm just not even going to try. You get propositioned by bulky women to arm wrestling? No, see, they don't even have to be bulky. It's just like, she looks like she might have played softball 10 years ago. I better stay away. I'm going to lie in my mouth. Well, I'm left-handed, so I could say, ah, you know, my right hand, I can't do it. But it doesn't matter, because that's just pathetic. Yeah, I agree. And, yeah, I will, I do a lot of other, I have a lot of other skills, but the physical ones. Sounds good. All right, guys, well, we're going to take another quick break. It's just going to be two or three minutes, and we'll be back with you to finish out tonight. You are on Des MoinesAmplified.com, listening to Live from the Past. So hop on the bus, God's on the move. They'll see for me, they'll see for you. He's done what you've done, he's done what he'll do. So hop on the bus, let's see for you, his son. He's done what he'll do, God's on the move.

I'm not going to get my money. Did you guys notice that they started painting the inside of the ketchup bottles red? Yeah. Nobody likes it. Nobody likes it. Yo, that's outrageous. It's like, I really, I had a moral dilemma as to what to do. It's a dirty cat. It's, I know that of him. Even as a believer, I've seen people like that and go, man, you're a freak. Right. You don't want to believe. You need to tell him to step. I want to believe, you know. We're on the same team, in theory. I am a doofus. It's like that time you claimed that you created the peanut butter that rolls up like a deodorant. I like that one. Well, you know, I've never, ever said, I hope someone looks at a literal interpretation of my underwear. No, no, hold on. Let's back up to the tomato situation. That's terrible. You can buy this from Pals for $19.95. And here's a little Jesus. I've said too much.

And you're back on Live from the Path. This is Des Moines Amplified.com. Again, you can see prior shows, that commercial right there. I know you want to show it to all your friends. That is available on livefromthepath.org. Also, we are from Pathway Church. We meet on Sundays at 10 a.m. in Johnston at Wallace Elementary. And you can find us online at thepathonline.org. Real quick, we've got about 10 to 12 minutes left in the show. I know I've had a lot of fun tonight. Do we have any news stories we can catch before we head out, Zach? Yeah, we've got a few news stories this week. I promised you a story with convenience store, food-eating related. This is a headline from msnbc.com. Man with no cash eats burrito and Funyuns at store. So here's a story. This is out of Hastings, Michigan. Again, authorities said a man took a bite in a crime when he helped himself to a burrito and a bag of Funyuns snacks at a gas station food store in Hastings, then told the clerk to call police because he had no money to pay for it. This is just crazy. I mean, the only thing I can think of is the guy wanted to go to jail. Like, I can see, like, a homeless guy. Sometimes homeless guys want to go to jail. It's warm.

They get fed. Places to stay. And it actually says, too, that he was 28 years old, which, I don't know, you wouldn't think a 28-year-old would be homeless, but who knows. Let's see. I don't think that there's a limit on a homeless age. No. I didn't know you had to. Well, you just wouldn't typically. You've got to get home. Yeah. 28, you can't be homeless. You've got a mom somewhere. Get in the basement. We're not going to classify you as homeless, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I just thought that was crazy. You know, we were talking about eating food at the convenience store. You know, people stealing, doubling up on hot dogs in a covered thing. Here's what I want to share with you real quickly, though, is because, you know, I'm a trainer at a company, and one of the ladies that went through my training says she worked a quick trip. So here's something you guys should know. I don't know if I should be revealing this or not, but she says that if people are actually

caught stealing, the only thing they can actually do, and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on this, the only thing they can actually do is to tell them not to come back. That is it. They don't really call the cops. I don't know if it's just more of an inconvenience or what. But that's what their solution is. So this guy actually could just walk out. I mean, you're actually going to say, by the way, I'll take it out. Because think about it. He would have had to eat the burrito, actually take out it, take a bag of Funyuns, open it up, start eating it, and then deliberately go over and tell the guy, you better call the police, and then had to sit there and wait for the police to come and said, yeah, take me away. You know, I can't imagine what, you know, what had been going on in his life or in his mind that, you know, make it more exciting. I mean, I want to see more cop chasers. I want to see the helicopter. I want to see the spotlight. At least say, you know, you can catch me or knock over the, you know, knock stuff over. Didn't we talk about this before? If you're going to leave, leave in style and kind of knock stuff over and run and, you know. I want to see this on a reality TV show is what I want to see. Yeah, you better call the police.

This guy, this is like, that's just uncreative thinking right now. It drives me crazy, though. A lot of the major corporations, I mean, they won't do anything for shoplifting. I mean, I've known people who work at security and stuff, and they're like, oh, we can't chase them. We can't do anything. Right. We can't put our lives in danger. We don't know. If I was a store owner, I'd be like, make sure that shotgun's loaded, and if they're going to, you know, I don't know. I'm going to bust a cap here in a second. They're going to get sued and everything, I'm sure, and I don't know. So dig on this. Here's one of the news stories that came through on the chat. The Des Moines Register was carrying a story today about a flying brandy bottle that cut a clerk's chin. So a shop-and-save clerk suffered a one-inch-long cut on his chin when he was struck by a brandy bottle thrown by a customer. The man opened the bottle and began drinking it in the store. When Sashil Kumar of Ankeny asked for payment, the man reportedly said he did not like the way the brandy tasted, and he was not going to pay for it. Nice. When Kumar told the man he had to pay for it because he'd opened the bottle, the man threw the bottle at Kumar, striking his chin, and that was a one-inch-long cut.

Wow. No arrest has been reported. Boy, that's terrible. He can throw a temper tantrum, and it's all good. Can you do that with a chicken sandwich? Oh, man. Dude, I would hate to have a chicken sandwich to the face, especially the more than fish sandwiches. I mean, like, someone came up and, like, chucked a sandwich and smacked you in the head with it. Could you imagine the acne that would come after that? That sounds terrible. Oh, my gosh. That would be awful. That would be a big splotch. Oh, exactly. Yeah, just that one little area. That looks like a chicken. Yeah, did you get a chicken sandwich thrown at you? That had to have been two patties. That's a heck of a story, though. I got a double-barrel chicken sandwich. Hey, so, like, I don't know, speaking of that, like, has anyone had something happen to him where, like, it wasn't really terrible, but it was like, I don't even know how to react to such a goofy situation. Like, something, like, I don't even know what to do here.

Has that ever happened to anybody? Because, like, I was thinking of a situation where someone came up and, like, threw a chicken sandwich at you. Yeah, what did you do with that? Like, when you were like, I don't even know what happened here or what to do with it. I deal more with the, when people make the, like, inappropriate comments, you know, more than anything else. When somebody makes, like, you know, I'll be in training and sometimes somebody makes, like, a, like, a sexual comment or something that's completely inappropriate or something like that. That would just be, that's usually what I kind of deal with. And where you're like, you just. I don't even know how to respond beyond, I'm not sure if there's a human resource issue or not. I don't know if I should be calling somebody. I don't know if I should just blow it off. I don't know what's happening. Right. It's like, I end with the typical phrase, I'm glad you're here. I just leave it at that and just move on. It's a great transitional phrase. I highly recommend using it. You know, I'm glad you're here. You use that with me all the time. I do, exactly.

I'm glad you're here, Dan. Okay? Actually. Then I can move on. I can think of a situation where that very reaction would not work. And it was, and we might have said this, I might have told this story on a previous show, but it was where, I play in a band, and we were playing a show at Carl's Place here in downtown Des Moines, and we were loading up stuff into the van, and one of the women, these ladies that happened to be at the gig all night, was kind of walking down the street, and she had had too much to drink, and she was walking around downtown Des Moines. We thought, you know, do you want one of us to walk with you? She obviously must have lived close. We're like, it's just not a good idea for her to be walking around by herself. She said, no, no, no, I'm fine. And so we started loading up the van, and I was in the driver's seat, warming up the car or something, and all of a sudden, like, the passenger side of the door of the van opens, and this woman crawls in, and it was that woman that was kind of walking away, and I kind of looked over, and she leaned and licked me on the cheek. Like, I mean, like, tongue out, lick, lick on the cheek. And I'm like, I don't even know what to do here. This is really weird. That's the odd situation. I've never had my cheek. And so if I would have pulled a Matt Cassidy, and I say, I'm glad to have you, I'm glad you're here.

I'm glad you made it in. This worked out well. That's, it's, so, you know what, although, you could have done it. Hey, you know what, glad you're here, hey, I'll see you later. Although, Velvet Crush would have had a different response. Well, so, so here's what happens, so she does that, and I'm like, I don't, you're going to have to leave. I don't, I don't know how to respond to this. Right. Yeah, so, so she leaves, right? And she kind of, she, you know, waddles her way down, out, back into home. I don't know where she went. But, so, two weeks later, I go into the Kinko's to print up some flyers for another show that we're doing, and guess who works at the Kinko's? Yeah. Lick face. Drunken face licker. Drunken face. Is working at the Kinko's. Now, now, this is, this is the moment in time where she realizes that she licked me in the face two weeks ago. I've licked your face. Like, that's going to be a real weird moment where you're suddenly, okay, I can print up these, these cheesy copies for your little crap band. And then she looks at me in the face and goes, did I lick that guy two weeks ago in

a drunken super? I think I did. I really think I did. You know? Was it that guy or Clint Howard? It's very, very odd. I mean, that's got to be a weird set of circumstances to realize that you licked someone two weeks ago. Now, now, did you, did you actually say anything, or was it, did you guys both just completely just play it off? Like, you know, we're just. You should have asked for a discount. I'm not sure how to integrate such a thing into the conversation. Like, hey, you remember me? You licked me in the face two weeks ago. I think that was perfect. Like, yeah, you gave me a good licking the other day. I mean, she is at work, and her, her boss, who looks like one of the Mouskowitzes from the rescuers down under, I'm pretty sure that he, he didn't want to hear about her licking people in the face. Like, that seems like a little rude to bring up at work. So, it was a very odd. It's rude to lick someone in the face. That's the issue. That's a little awkward.

Yeah. It was definitely weird. I mean, were you not, were you not sort of at work? You were finishing a show, doing your thing? But she wasn't at work. Yeah. She wasn't. That's true. I mean, she paid to get in. No, no, but you got shorted that night, too. The guy, the guy at the, at the bar shorted us like 50 bucks. Awesome. It was a really weird night. That was your payment? Yeah. And actually, speaking of, there was, there was another thing that was real awkward. We had, we played a show at another bar in town, and we were, we were a blues, we was a blues band, right? So you're, you're, you're middle of the second set, and all of a sudden, some guy shows up with a French horn, and just starts playing it out in the middle of the bar. Like, I mean, he was playing along with the tune. Now, great. I mean, it was, it was on key. He was, he was rocking a French horn solo in the middle of this, this hard rock blues show.

It was very, very odd. And so you can't stop the show and say, dude, can you stop playing your French horn? What do you do? You just ignore it? Yeah, we just ignored it. And then, actually, that, that was, that was a killer night. There was two other guys in that bar, that, that, that is a night I will never forget. The first guy was, it was a Hulk Hogan guy. The guy looked just like Hulk Hogan. And, you know, the thing is, is you get into these, these bars, and there's people that want to talk to you because you're in the band, and they want to tell you stories. And this guy tells some kind of story about these puppies that he's raising. And he's, I mean, he, he, he kind of, he gargles up. He can't barely fit himself through the aisles, this massive man. Right, he's just huge. And he comes up, and he's telling these stories, and he's got wolf pups. And he's like, and he's like, I raise wolf pups, and you know how you keep them in line? I pick them up by the scruff of the neck, and I open back their eyes, and I spit. And I lick their face. You know, I spit them. And then I put them back down, and that's how they know I'm the man. And I'm like, that's fantastic. That's really great. And then there's another guy that comes to us at the very same night, and he comes in, and he's trying to get us in some kind of scheme to sell blue jeans in China.

Like, he's like, he's got, I got 60 pairs of Levi's in my trunk. You guys want to, like, he wants us to buy jeans at, like, the local store, give it to him, have him go to China and sell them, and then come back with the profit, where he will, like, distribute the profit to us. It was the weirdest scheme ever. I mean, it was 25 minutes with this scheme. Sounds like a great idea. And I thought, I would like to be involved with this, just so that I could say that it happened to me. I had a business deal fall through with a guy in China selling blue jeans to Chinese people, who, Dan's right, probably made the jeans to begin with. And I paid retail here so that he could sell it for twice the price in China, fly back, and give me a cut of the price. Plus the travel expense. Because the average citizen is loaded with cash in China. Exactly. Well, and it's weird that this is where the guy is looking for business partners. He's in a bar, looking for guys in the band. The guy, the four-man white blues band, in the middle of this really dive bar, and he's like, there's some guys I need to get in bond with to sell blue jeans to China. That's what I want to be a part of. He should go into the short business. I got some shorts for him. These are some nice shorts. These shorts go with everything. All right, I want to get this last story in real quick before we're out.

So this comes from Denmark. Lunch only beer rule prompts strike. Oh, I've read that. Yeah, this is great. So it is a brewery, okay? So, and the workers or the company changed its policy from you can drink however much you'd like and whenever you'd like during work. Just you can't be drunk, okay? They even let them have coolers by their area where they could just, you know, drink some beer. Well, they changed the rules to only allow drinks during lunch, and they were so mad about this that they organized a whole strike. They walked off their jobs and everything. Wow. And let's see. What have we got here? Let's see. Now, where is this place? 100, 800. This is in Copenhagen. Copenhagen. 800 workers went on strike Wednesday, and around 250 walked off their jobs. This is, to me, the best part, is the truck drivers joined the strike in sympathy, even though they were exempt from the new rules. See, the truck drivers are still allowed to drink all day. Yeah, yeah.

It's everybody else that's on the limit. And the thing is, is then they kind of, I feel like the last one or two paragraphs sort of tries to pull it back in for credibility of the company. It's like, well, typically, though, they only have time to drink during lunch, so they're typically just drinking during lunch anyways. Then they get back on the road. And they have, well, they say their trucks are, you got to blow just to start the truck. But you can still pass. You could have a beer or two and maybe still pass the blow. So, yeah, that's just ridiculous. You know, people have real struggles and worries and tough work conditions, and these guys can't drink beer all day. They can still drink beer on the job, just only a designated time. And, you know, that sounds real rough to me. I don't know about you guys. I'd walk out. Yeah, yeah, I'd be out. All right, everybody. We're getting ready to head out of here. It is midnight. Now is the time to go ahead and hit the old hay. We really appreciate you listening to Live from the Past. Remember, we are on Monday nights from 10 to midnight every Monday. We are the top-rated show in the Monday from 10 to midnight slot. That's true. With no competition. We'd love to see you on Sunday.

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