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Live From The Path · Season 2013, Episode 31

Checkbox Christians

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Topics covered

Segments

  • Show open and in-studio introductions 0:01–1:57
    A host opens the show from the Pathway Studios in Johnston. Mike introduces the in-studio lineup: pastor Dan Hudson, guest Rick Gray, John Boova the third (transcript ASR: "Buba"), and an unidentified mystery guest named Troy. Mike admits he is ill prepared for the show, and the group trades opening banter.
  • Bible-study teaser and opening banter 1:57–5:42
    Mike previews an article about the disconnect between Americans' belief in the Bible and their behavior around it, citing a poll he read. The hosts joke that such survey results are always obvious and say they want the survey job. Banter follows about mispronouncing the website as "livefromthebath.org" and a random thirty-second topic: why morel mushrooms grow only in spring, compared to eggnog and shamrock shakes.
  • Game setup: Deuteronomy or Dan 5:42–6:31
    Mike launches a new game, "Deuteronomy or Dan," complete with a sung theme song billed as the third-fastest-growing game show on the Internet. The reader explains the rules: he reads a quote and the panel guesses whether it is Old Testament law or something he invented himself. The point is to find out who actually reads the word of God.
  • Deuteronomy or Dan: the game rounds 6:32–14:04
    The reader works through a series of quotes: the crumbs off the master's table mixed with the dogs-return-to-vomit proverb (Dan's invention), "do not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness" (Exodus 23:1), the bitter root of envy in a neighbor's field (Dan), "do not be partial to a poor man in his lawsuit" (surprisingly Exodus 23:3), the camel relieving itself in the marketplace (Dan), and "all winged insects are unclean" (Deuteronomy 14:19). The panel votes on each round and ribs the reader for pulling quotes from Exodus and Leviticus despite the game's name.
  • Stubborn son round, locust tangent, game wrap 14:04–17:43
    The final round quotes the stubborn and rebellious son passage: the parents bring him to the elders of the city gate and the men of the city stone him, and the hosts pause over how grim that walk would be. A tangent breaks out over the earlier winged-insects round: if all winged insects are unclean, what about the locusts John the Baptist ate? The chat points to Leviticus 11:22, which explicitly permits locusts, bald locusts, crickets, and grasshoppers. Mike wraps the game and points listeners to past games on the website.
  • Dateline: America's Bible Hypocrisy 17:44–19:55
    Mike reads an article on the American Bible Society's State of the Bible 2013 study: 66% of Americans say the Bible contains everything needed for a meaningful life, yet 58% say they don't want wisdom and advice from it and 57% read it fewer than five times a year. He adds that 61% wish they read it more, and that 56% say the Bible has too little influence in US society while only 13% say it has too much. The article quotes an ABS spokesman on the gap between believing the Bible is beneficial and opening one's heart, mind, and life to it.
  • Checkbox Christians and honest witness 19:57–24:38
    The hosts react to the study and say they are unsurprised, calling out "checking the Christian checkbox" — claiming the label while reading the Bible fewer than five times a year. Mike argues the deeper problem is a lack of honest representation: few unbelievers see Christians humbly and honestly living out their faith, so they have no reason to believe it works. One host adds that at some point everyone has been a false witness, so the blame is collective, not aimed at specific people.
  • Generational bias and cultural cycles 24:39–26:55
    One host observes that the most impressive live-for-Christ people he has known were his grandparents' generation, which had fewer distractions and alternatives. Mike pushes back that this is a cyclical problem, not a new one: Sodom and Gomorrah and Rome show cultures drifting from God and imploding, and America is "the new Rome" heading the same way. He grants the observation but calls it a lame excuse for passivity.
  • Catalysts for change and hearing God's voice 26:56–29:35
    A host argues people only change when a catalyst hits: his doctor warned him his health would end in death, which pushed him to lose 70 pounds — until the warning faded and the weight crept back. The group recalls previous guest Boss Gujana on hearing God's voice: at a grocery store she reasoned a nudge to pray for a stranger must be God, since neither the devil nor she herself would want it. They conclude change still boils down to personal choice.
  • A call to boldness 29:35–33:49
    Mike recounts talking with a fellow about reading the Bible, using Boss Gujana's logic: there is nothing in it for him except the man's good, so his persistence itself should get the man's attention. He diagnoses an extreme lack of boldness among Christians: televangelists, ubiquitous Bibles, and podcasts have made evangelism feel like someone else's business, producing soft people who won't stand up for the gospel. His call: say what you know and show the Bible does something, because Jesus "noses into your business" and doesn't give up on people, as with Peter.
  • Mark 2: the paralytic through the roof 33:49–42:18
    Mike reads Mark 2:1-5, a story he and his daughter read that night: four men carry a paralytic to Jesus, cannot get through the crowd, so they break open the roof and lower him down, and Jesus says, "son, your sins are forgiven." The hosts marvel at the boldness — hauling an immobile man up, breaking a stranger's roof, the awkward silence as debris falls and a man rappels down — and note Jesus never mentions the damage. Mike confesses he chickened out of two witnessing opportunities that week and felt real sorrow over it. The group coins "break a roof" as the rallying cry, with t-shirt and bumper-sticker plans.
  • Sponsors and show notes 42:19–44:18
    Mike thanks the sponsors: Bob Eisenlauer of the Eisenlauer team, a local real estate man ("easy to work with and hard to beat," transcript: "Eisenhower"), whom he hopes to have on the show, and Westfield Veterinary Hospital in Johnston for his many pets. He recaps the show so far — the Bible article done, the game done — and transitions into Dear LFTP.
  • Dear LFTP: the coworker who borrows money 44:18–48:30
    A listener writes that coworker Anita, whose paycheck arrives a day later, asked for cigarette money, then had the cashier ring up cigarettes on the writer's ATM card during their lunch break. The panel's advice: stand up and say no — Anita is brazen and understands the dynamic well enough to bully the writer. The bold move, they joke-seriously, is to buy the cigarettes, keep them, and go outside to smoke and talk about Jesus: make a friend first, "break the roof." The Secular answer advises telling Anita directly it was rude, or telling the cashier never to allow it again.
  • Dear LFTP: marry Jordan despite the parents 48:30–54:06
    A 24-year-old college graduate writes that she and her boyfriend Jordan want to marry, but her parents — whose own marriage failed — call her stupid for wanting marriage in 2013. One host's core advice: marriage is not a covenant between you, your spouse, and your parents; go ahead and do it, and the parents will likely come around. The panel diagnoses parental bitterness being painted onto the daughter's life, argues the real problem was a marriage outside of Christ rather than marriage itself, and debates whether the culture's rejection of marriage is a reason to follow or oppose it. The Secular answer: at 24 she is an adult who can make her own decisions; don't let their cynicism taint her.
  • Closing: break a roof 54:06–54:54
    Mike closes with the episode's takeaway: buy your friend a pack of smokes and talk to him about Jesus — nobody listens to high-and-mighty rebuking; break the roof, make a friend first. He plugs the show on KTIA Saturday nights at 7 and the podcast at livefromthepath.org, and invites listener contact by phone or personal message, offering to share a host's phone number.

Bible references

  • Matthew 15:27

    the dogs eat the scraps off the master's table

  • Exodus 23:1

    You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness

  • Exodus 23:3

    You shall not be partial to a poor man in his lawsuit

  • Deuteronomy 14:19

    All winged insects are unclean for you. They shall not be eaten.

  • Leviticus 11:22

    Of them you may eat: the locust of any kind, the bald locust of any kind, the cricket of any kind, and the grasshopper of any kind.

  • Deuteronomy 21:18-21

    If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother … then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.

  • Mark 2:1-5

    And many were gathered together so that there was no room, not even at the door… when they had made an opening, they let down the bed on which the paralytic lay. And when Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, son, your sins are forgiven.

  • Hebrews 4:12

    sharper than a double edged sword

Key questions

  • How do I keep a coworker from borrowing money from me? (dear-lftp)
  • Should I marry my boyfriend Jordan when my parents call the idea of marriage stupid — do I have to choose between my parents and my boyfriend? (dear-lftp)
  • How do we close the gap between believing the Bible's wisdom and actually living it? (host-framed)
  • How bold should Christians be in bringing people to Jesus? (host-framed)

People

  • Guest: Rick Gray
    mister Rick Gray
  • Bob Eisenlauer
  • Rick Gray
  • Troy
  • Anita
  • Jordan
  • John the Baptist
  • Peter
  • Donald Trump
  • Boss Gujana

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. You are live from the path.

And you are listening to live from the path on livefromthepath.org. Here's the thing, boys. Mike is ill prepared for what's going on today. How you guys doing? How's everybody doing? We're probably just as ill prepared as you are, Mike. That's right. I've been preparing my whole life for this moment.

I knew it. If you don't deliver just the best show you've ever done, we are we are all just gonna be so disappointed in you. The nice thing is he set the bar for himself so well. The best show he's ever done. Wow.

I like it. Words in my mouth. I'm just saying I prepared my whole life. Okay. That's enough. You're listening to live from the path on livefromthebath,.org. Listen, we're really glad to have you. We're glad to have you in studio tonight. We have, a full boat. We are joined by pastor Dan Hudson, mister Rick Gray, John Buba the third, an unknown mystery guest,

and me, Mike Fuze. Thank you for joining us. We're broadcasting live on www.live from thepath.org on Monday nights at ten,

most of the time. Sometimes we have a hard time getting her through. But, this week, the Lord has pulled through once again on our behalf, and we're up and rocking. And so, I'm excited for the show. We got a slew of things to talk about. There is a, there was an article that I was reading this week disconnect between, belief and behavior as far as the Bible concerned. There was a poll done, by,

I don't know, I assume a legitimate testing company. I'm not really sure. But but, they basically looked and said, hey, there's a there's a huge disconnect between people that, you know, read the Bible and actually the behavior that comes out of it. And I think I thought, well, you know, I could have told you that. So, but we're gonna read the article and see kind of if we got some, some input there on on what we think is going on. I I want that job. I I wanna do surveys. Just have someone pay me. I don't have to actually ask the questions because the answer's always obvious. Yeah. The sun comes up in the morning. That was a lot of research. I mean, they always always well, I if yes. We all know people. No. It's somebody who makes big money. It's not me. Well, they'll they'll do a study on if you don't bathe Yeah. Or you're gonna get stinky. You'll get stinky. Yeah.

It's like, it took $10,000 to find out. I want that job. New research shows a correlation between showers and dates. By the way, Mike, I gotta stop you. Did you say livefromthebath

earlier? I don't know. And you said it's ww.com too. Yeah. I heard www.livefromthebath.org, and I I hope we're not doing that show ever. That's all I'm saying. Listen to me, fellas. I got I got about 85 things going on over here, and the best you can do is come up and make it fun of me. That's not high quality radio. So I need you to pull your pants I'm enjoying every minute. I I'm loving this, actually. I I think I think you might be the one who thinks it's not high quality radio, but I think we're all enjoying ourselves. I I just I feel like we owe it to the advertisers and the two people that watch the show to come up with something more creative than what you got. But we're gonna move on. Fair enough. Sounds like a plan. Alright. We'll bring it Anyway, we got some dear life from the path. That means we've got some advice. People people need help. People need to figure out what, they got some life questions. They run-in some roadblocks, and, like, I just I can't decide what to do. And so, you know, they're gonna go ahead and, and ask us, and and we're we're ready to provide an answer. We have some Deuteronomy, Dan. So we're gonna we're gonna run through you some

some list of questions. And you, basically, we're gonna we're gonna read you some snippets and then you gotta tell us whether it's Deuteronomy from the book of Deuteronomy or it's just Dan. He just made it up. And so we're gonna play Deuteronomy, Dan. And then, we got some Pope style advice. I got some stuff in Mark that I've been reading that I'm ill prepared for at the moment. But we're gonna run through it and, and and see if we can, you know, get our boots to the ground on. I'm being a little bit more bold, and we're gonna look at some action of a couple fellas that I thought, man, that's just bold. That's just outright bold to these fellas. And so, that's what we're gonna do. So, here's what I need you to do. I need you to discuss a random topic amongst yourselves for approximately thirty seconds. Well, why is it that, the morel mushrooms grow in the spring?

You out of all the topics we could have come up with, that's what you got? He said he said random. So I just it's the first thing that came to mind is morel mushrooms. What else? Fair enough. I guess can we talk about this for thirty seconds? They wouldn't be special. Well, that'd The fact that it's it grows only in the springtime makes it an occasion, like a holiday. Don't you think they could come up with a full crop? It's like that's true. It's like eggnog. It's like nature's eggnog. No one would like eggnog if we drank it well, that's not true. I would love eggnog all year round. Eggnog. Yeah. Or the shamrock shake. Shamrock shake. Shamrock shake is only

good in March. If you have it in April, it's too late. It's too much. Because you had it in your freezer. Yes. It's got a little, like, speed there. You have been drinking that for a month now. Yeah. I know you're gonna miss it for the next eleven months, but you need to stop. You need to stop it. It's much. Just Absolutely too much. Mike, do you need us to come up with more random topics? Are we good? No. It looks like I'm ready. Go to the like, I wasn't real happy with what you guys gave me. Afraid of what you come up with next. Good. Everything seems to be going okay. Okay. Here we go. Anyway, what were you guys talking about? I missed kind of the Morel mushrooms,

McRibs And shamrock. And shamrock shakes. Grace and forgiveness. A season of everything. There's a season for everything. That's what we talked about. Vanity.

No time. Vanity. Vanity. Yes. Okay. Here's what we're gonna do. I need you to start out with, Deuteronomy, Dan. So get get to it. We're gonna play the the Internet. So it would be one, two how many games we got? We got three games? Spear. This is third fasting. This will be the third fastest growing game show on the Internet. We're gonna call, Deuteronomy, Dan. Hold on. I I feel like we can rig up some kind of theme song and a one and a two and a Deuteronomy, Deuteronomy, Deuteronomy,

Dan. That's beautiful. Thank you. Okay. The idea of this is that, yeah, did you did you already say it was that I wasn't listening? Do people know what we're doing? Dan, how about you tell us? Okay. There there are there are some options. I'm I'm gonna read something either from from the law. I I do tie tend to

get out of Deuteronomy Deuteronomy sometimes just because the law is fast. And it could be either from the law of God in the Old Testament, or it could be something I have made up on my own that is not from the law, but only from my mind. And hopefully, we can discern between the both. We will find out if you are a reader of the word of god. For example, the first one is do not eat the crumbs off your master's table, such as the way of dogs that return to their vomit. Return to their vomit? Yes.

I'm gonna call a Deuteronomy on that one. I think it's Dan. You're going Dan just made it up. That sounds like New Testament to me, so I feel like that's Dan as well. It sounds like New Testament?

It was technically said in the New Testament. Wasn't the lady said Yeah. Jesus said that to the The lady. And she said he said, I haven't been sitting here for you. And she says, yeah. But the dogs eat the scraps off the master's table. I feel like that's Dan Hudson. You think so? Was he was he quoting the old testament when he said that, Dan? It is, Dan. It is a mixture of a little bit of new and old. Fair enough. This is a little proverb talking about dogs going to the vomit. I just kinda threw a couple seconds together. I remember that. You lost me at the vomit. That's I yeah. You had me That was a key thrower there. So Here's the best part. Thrower. Can have thrower. If you're following along on the chat, like, the chat threw out a guest. There's only been one question, so I can attribute that. And I was wrong, chat. But thank you for participating.

That was certainly Dan. Okay. Here's the second one. Okay. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness. I'd say Deuteronomy.

Rick's in for Deuteronomy. Mike? Troy, I'm gonna need you to answer. Fine. It goes in a round table. Just follow the pattern. We we normally don't do that. Just follow Deuteronomy. I'm also gonna go with Deuteronomy on that one, Dan. That's correct. It's it's it's actually Exodus twenty three one. So, yeah, yeah, it's from the law. I heard malicious. Yeah. It was a bit it's pretty big big word for me. It's it's like Yeah. Don't be mean. Malicious is way too big of a word. Stop being a mean person. He's got a thesaurus. Yeah. Exactly.

He has the Internet at his fingertips. Like, he'd ever use it. Here's the third one. When working in your neighbor's field, do not replace a rock with a bitter root of envy. It will destroy your neighbor and it'd be a curse upon your family. Okay. One more time. Dance low. When working in your neighbor's field I didn't say seductive. Just

not replace a rock with the bitter root of envy. It will destroy your neighbor and be a curse upon your family. Rick Ray. I'm leaning towards Deuteronomy on this one. Replacing a rock. John Buba. I'm gonna go Deuteronomy.

I feel like I'm also going Deuteronomy on that one, Daniel. You guys are toast. That is total Dan. You just made it very poetic. I'm very poetic. Alright.

Here's the next one. You shall not be a excuse me. You shall not be partial to a poor man in his lawsuit. Do not be partial to a poor man in a lawsuit. That's Deuteronomy or Dan. Do not be partial to a poor man in a in a lawsuit. John Buba.

I'm gonna go Dan on that one. John Buba in with Dan. I'm sorry for the slow reaction, folks. We got, we got people in the studio. Rick Gray. Yes. Also Dan. I'm gonna go with Dan. Rick Gray also goes with reluctant Dan.

I'm actually also gonna go with Dan. That sounds like a Dan to me. That is an Exodus 23 Wow. Why is the poor man shaking three? You feel sorry for him. Oh, we'll just be Hey, just because he's poor doesn't mean he's an idiot. Yeah. But it doesn't mean he's innocent either. Why did I Don't don't give him extra credence because he's poor. Well, shouldn't the standard fairly Shouldn't the standard be just treat him like a regular fella? Just just use justice. Alright. Don't don't don't don't favor him. Alright. If shoot me. That's Dan. That's definitely Dan.

That was Malachi. I'm gonna skip around a little bit here. If your camel relieves itself Oh, for heaven's sakes.

Camel relieves itself. How terrible this upon the foot of another man in the marketplace, you shall take the offering and lay it at the feet of the priest. Can is that I'm sorry. Deuteronomy with Dan, if a camel relieves himself on the foot of a man at the marketplace, what was the consequence? You have to take it as an offering to the priest. You'd have to offer You'd have to take the camel or the foot to the priest? Or the urine. Yeah. Whatever he One of the three.

Fair enough. However you wanna read it. We're gonna go with Dan. I I wouldn't call the word of God ridiculous, so be careful. Okay. I'm sorry. We're gonna start out with John Booth the third. Deuteronomy with the with the I don't even know how that excrement camel. Deuteronomy or Dan urinated camel. I'm gonna go Dan. Dan urinated camel Rick Gray. Yes. Definitely Dan. Agrees with Dan. I I feel like I'm gonna say Dan as well. I feel like I would've I may would've gone a little over the top on that one. Yeah. Just a bit. But I can't even read it. Barely. Okay. Barely noticeable. Barely noticeable. Okay. Continue. Come on, Daniel. All winged insects are unclean for you. They shall not be eaten. Winged insects are unclean for you. They shall not be eaten.

Winged creatures. Now hold on. Is the locust a winged creature? I would consider that to be a winged insect. Yeah. It's not a creature. Not a winged creature. I'm gonna say that has to be Dan.

Otherwise, John the Baptist is in some real trouble. Yeah. Was just say. Okay, fellas. This is a radio show. So when I'm done talking, I need someone else to continue talking. John Bover the third. Last time I did, I got in trouble, but I'm going with Dan. Dan, is Rick Gray. I'll go Deuteronomy just to Rick Gray shove out Deuteronomy. It is Okay. Go ahead, Daniel. It is Deuteronomy fourteen

nineteen. Okay. Pulled me in on your John the Baptist. I don't know. How is that okay? I it's a quote. I don't know. I'm I'm thinking a locust must be a different type of of an insect or something. Here's thing. That's still an insect, though. Jesus said John the Baptizer was the greatest man ever born by women, and he's breaking Deuteronomy. Right. May maybe he was eating a different type of a locust. A wild locust that has been de winged by It's from the locust tree. By some kind of lizard? I don't know. I submit John the Baptist is correct. Delicious. And Deuteronomy is wrong. Moving on. That is a Wow.

That is a bold move, sir. I don't know what to say. You shall not gaze upon the owl as it hunts by night. Dan. You shall not gaze upon the owl as it hunts by night. Yes. I'm going Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy.

Dan. John Buba with the mistake. Deuteronomy. Rick Gray. I think it's Dan. Rick Gray goes with Dan. I am also going with Dan. It is Dan. Yeah. Yeah. It is. In what circumstance would the Lord I don't know. Just say don't look at that owl. Don't you look at that owl while it's stalking its prey. You leave that owl alone. They're nocturnal creatures. So Yeah. Yeah. You Philistine, you stay away from that owl.

Okay. That's you're listening to Deuteronomy or Dan. This is the last one. We got we got one more. It's it's it's breezing by. Breezing. Man. Continue on. Last one. This is riveting right here. Right here. We'll see how the chat ends up, and and you're gonna have to score yourselves, so pay attention. How how how is the chat generally doing? There are always questions behind. I can't keep track of it. That's alright. Continue on. Because we move so rapidly. Okay. If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or voice of his mother,

and though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take the hold of him and him out to the elders of the city gate at the place where he lives. And it goes on to say, that you shall purge the evil from you. You're gonna stone him. I can't repeat all of what Dan said. Yeah. It it was a lot of talk there. Basically, it sounds like if someone if one of your sons is giving you the business, you take him outside and whoop him until he stops doing it. They'll take him to the elders of the city. This son is you'll say to his elders, this son is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey our voice. He is a glutton and a drunkard. And then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. Yep. Yeah. John Buba. Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy. Rick Gray. Deuteronomy. Yes. Deuteronomy. I'm also in with Deuteronomy. It is obviously a Deuteronomy because it's just one of those ones that you read and you go, what? Yeah. Well, that there was a lot more to that one than any of the other ones that you say. I I just There's a lot of substance to that one. Because I was trying to myself in the place of dad, you know, thinking, wait a minute. At what point do you say, my son

is so rebellious That he needs to be purged of evil This is not like by the elders. Yeah. It's like, we're gonna go ahead and kill you, son. I hope you enjoy that last little drunkard. I mean, murder, adultery, all that good stuff. Yeah. I think they yeah. I mean, obviously, it was an issue. It happened. It was written in the law. It was it was something

I just can't imagine coming to that conclusion, and that that'd be the longest walk of your life. Right. I know. Right? Yeah. We're going to the gate. We'll hook up there. Well, you know, just gonna hang out. Son, have you ever read Deuteronomy? Would be worse. Right? True. Yeah. I mean,

Bruce, you just murdered son. Dad on the way out You condemned your child to be murdered by the elders. Well, are is it the elders that are murdering them or is it just All the men. The whole city. Oh, the whole okay. Okay. Hang on. Just for a quick backup of John the Baptizer here. The chat recommended checking out Leviticus eleven twenty two, which turns out that it says, of them you may eat. The locust of any kind, the bald locust of any kind Oh, cool. The cricket of any kind, and the grasshopper of any kind. Alright. The Lord made provision for John the Baptizer. Yes. Excellent. Nicely done, Lord. He was looking ahead thinking one of these days, John's gonna be hungry. One of these days, my son is gonna comment on John the John the Baptizer. I'd like to see claws in this. I'd like to see this hairy locust. If there's a locust and a bald locust, I wanna see the toupee looking locust too. Because I I submit It like Jimmy Kirk It looks like Donald Trump. I feel like I could eat that. I feel like the bald locust, I could probably eat. Well well, unless you're pouring some wild honey on it. Maybe it might taste like that. Does it have, like, sad eyes when look at are you gonna eat me, shit? I I've never looked at a locust. I don't think I would be able to discern whether it had sad eyes or not. They're creepy. They have creepy eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Make creepy sounds. They sound like screaming children.

Exactly. Wow. Being stoned with the city gate. I think I might go out to the Close enough. To the wilderness and eat some locusts and wild honey now. That's like eating crawdads. You know? I mean, this you look at that, like Yeah. How hungry do you need to be? Yeah. Right. Sometimes they're on Chinese food buffets and you're going, I'm gonna go to the other part of the buffet. Exactly. Yeah. Just not gonna do that. Where's that chicken stuff that you made good? Yeah.

It's like a carousel running out of control. Yeah. You're listening to live you're listening to live from the path on livefromthepath.org. Thanks for heading around for Deuteronomy or Dan. You can check out that game along with other games on the website. We also have a lot of our past performance, past interviews with real talent that has come into the show and and, shared their their gracious gift with others. They ran quickly. Yeah. Until then, you're stuck with us. The fake talent. Sorry for you. Online. We're gonna look at, at Dateline, America's Bible Hypocrisy. Study shows disconnect between beliefs and behavior.

Here's the here's the big shocker, my friends. A majority of people a majority of people in The United States believe the Bible contains the best advice for a meaningful life, but they also don't want to take it and are too busy to read the scriptures. According to the American Bible Society's State of the Bible 2013 study, sixty six percent of Americans agreed that the Bible contains everything a person needs to know to live a meaningful life, while 58% say they don't want wisdom and advice from the Bible and 57%

say they read it fewer than five times per year. There's a difference between believing something is beneficial and opening up your heart, mind, and life to that to let that beneficial thing in, says some guy. He explained that some people view reading the Bible as taking your medicine rather than a life changing encounter with God. But isn't it just lack of motivation? 61% of adults wish they read the Bible more. That's That's It seems that many Americans

it seems here's the deal. The freedom of being an adult is the ability to do what you want. Like, read your Bible if you want to. I wish I could open that book more. I feel like I'm weighed down by all the choices that I've made that are stopping the choices that I wanna make. Something's stopping me though. It seems that many Americans are letting other priorities get in the way of them opening the pages of the Bible. Once again, these other priorities are mislabeled as priorities and maybe called something else like distractions. According to its website, the, ABS aims to bring God's word to cultural channels where the Bible lacks a strong voice and extend new reach within today's leading churches, inviting millions to reconsider to renew their engagement with God's word. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. The study did bring bring some encouraging news as well, however. More than half of Americans, 56%,

believe the Bible has too little influence in US society today. Only 13% said it had too much. He continued with what perhaps many Americans fail to recognize is it's the easiest way for the Bible to influence society is individuals to take it off their shelves, read it, and let its words and wisdom influence their own choices and decisions. If more individuals were reading the Bible on a consistent basis and using it as a roadmap for their lives, I think the world would look quite a bit brighter. Indeed. That actually doesn't surprise me at all. It threw out quite a bit of numbers in there, but this is another instance where I I like to call upon the whole checking the Christian checkbox on on a survey or anything like that. We hear a lot of people that talk about, you know, how they they read the bible less than five times a year, but they check

the the Christian box. You know, that doesn't come as a surprise to me that that that few people actually read the bible. And I agree entirely. You know? Our our society, everything that we see on a daily basis, the media, the the, the culture that we have in The United States and in the world today would absolutely be changed dramatically, if we had a revival of people that not only call themselves a Christian, but actually

live their faith and and actually have acts acts supporting their faith that show, hey, I'm a Christian and and here's, you know, here's my life showing that I am, not just my pen showing that I am. Is don't you think though that that honestly that is pretty true of not just the spiritual

areas of our life, but really every area of our life. I mean, I know if I'm if I have have sitting on my my kitchen counter a a bowl of broccoli broccoli and and some some barbecue potato chips, I'm gonna say to myself, the broccoli is probably healthier. I actually like broccoli, but I will probably grab the potato chips. You know, I have a a bottle of water or a Mountain Dew, you know, we tend to always go for the the poor choice even though we know better. You can But now there's another aspect of it too, is that

with the microwave conditioning of society and easy access. The thing about the Bible is it's hard to understand. You have to digest it. You have to Yeah. You have to go to church. You have to Indeed your brain. Right. You have to talk to other people. You have to bounce ideas back and forth. And if you're not doing that, then you're just reading a bunch of words. It's like, you know, I did memory verses when I was a kid. Yeah. I can remember a series of words,

but I never thought about what they meant. I never Connection. Had it related to my life. I'm like, I need to remember I need to learn these three verses to get this patch or star or whatever. And so, I mean, if people are doing it like that and they're not engaging in a in a a dialogue that makes it relevant,

then they're not accomplishing anything. And they're there's you know, then you're gonna read it five times a year. And You know, that's the thing is I I I feel like here's the here's the the well, the crux of the conversation. Right? What it boils down to is how do you how do we change that? How do we influence it differently? Because here's what we're talking about. We're talking about a lot of people on the fence. Right? And like, I've been in this position where I knew I should read my Bible, but I didn't really wanna do it. And when I read it, I'm like, well, that felt kinda alright.

But it's not like I was getting any Holy Spirit revelation out of it. It's not like I was looking for God's truth. I was reading it because I was told to when I was growing up. Right? And so like, how do you how do you start to marry or or how did, you know, how do we end up in this problem? And frankly, I I think if you were gonna you were gonna start a game plan, I would be really pushing to say that the reason people are having a hard time getting connected with the with their Bibles because they don't have any honest representation of what it does. You know what I'm saying? Of of of what a life lived for God is because almost everybody that that they've met that claims to be a Christian on the checkbox is not a good representation. I mean, I'm not talking about a representation of Jesus. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about a person that claims to be, perfect or sinless. I'm talking about a person that that is honest about their failings and their successes, but still humbly

serves a God and and and sees the fruit that comes out of giving God glory and you receiving joy. And if if if people don't see that, why would they believe you? Right? The same thing when you it's the same thing when you're raising your kids. If the kids if your kids grow up and don't see what a life looks like when when it's lived for God, you can bark at them all you want and you can read all the Bible stories you want. They're they're gonna ignore you because it's obvious it's not working for you, you know? And so I it's it's I I think it really draws down to like like it's like God's people are especially the ones that are living a life of Christ, they're they're they're moving into an insular life of Christ where, you know, people just don't they don't see the benefit because you're not willing to show them. You know? And and I I think that's probably the major change, and that's probably the major put. Yeah. Absolutely. There there's a mental and a spiritual disconnect between the physical act of opening your bible and actually reading. And I I agree. It is because of of fall witnesses that we do have that that claim to, you know, have the discipline of, hey. You know, you need to read your bible, and you need to go to church every Sunday, and you need to go to youth group and small group and everything like that, but then you don't see the works, and you don't see the fruits. And, you know, I'm not placing blame on any one person or any specific people. It's it's on all of us. At one point in time or another, every one of us has been a false witness in some way, shape, or form. It's I'm placing blame on specific people.

I've got a list of, like, 17 people. Yeah. Yeah. Here's here's the deal. Well But now isn't there a is there a generational bias? I mean, if you think about, like, the the most impressive just live for Christ people that I've known are in my grandparents' generation. I mean, that

age group seem to have less distractions and more reasons to live for Jesus. I mean, less alternatives, less you know, they didn't have

56 channels of TV spouting, you know, worship the Kardashians or whatever, you know, American Idol. So it it you know, it's it's I I don't know. I mean But maybe I kind of agree with you in The Americas in, like, this like, in in the, say, the past fifty years, but like this is a world circular problem.

Like you look at I mean, we look at America today and we say, hey, that the culture doesn't breed a good relationship with Christ. It's hard to be a Christian, blah blah blah. And then you look back in the Bible. Look at Sodom and Gomorrah. The place was a total filth bucket. Right? Right. Yeah. We're not there yet. We're heading that way and, you know, we might just get there before the before he throws the sulfur down but, like, we're not we're not as described. It's it's cycles. Right. I mean, it Yeah. Yeah. And so so I I guess I and I think I think sometimes I fall into this misconception but I talk to a lot of people that do that are like, you know, but we're just, we make it so hard and and and the culture's blah blah blah. And like, we're not anything fancy or new here. We're the new Rome. Right? Gonna get big and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get so far away from God that we're gonna implode on ourselves. Because not only does God bring joy to you, but he also brings order because he created it. And so when he says if if if my people act in this way, it will it will produce a productive society, that is that is peaceful, then that's what you'd get. Right? But we can't seem to muster that. And so it's eventually gonna go down just as Sodom and Gomorrah went down and just as Rome went down. And so I I mean, I I I agree with you, but I feel like that's a lame excuse. Well, Maybe that's how I feel. It's a small sided I mean, I'm I'm speaking of my personal perspective. Sure. Not a worldview.

Just what I've noticed Yeah. Is that, you know. I think I think in general, people will not change and there's there's there's some type of catalyst that pushes them into it. Whether it be starting to read the bible more often, whether it be, like I just mentioned, food, you know. I I a few years ago, doctor sits me down and says, here's the deal. You need to lose some weight. This is gonna happen. That's gonna happen. Blah blah blah blah blah. It ends in death. I'm like, boy, seems kinda serious. I'm sorry. What was all that stuff before ends in death? Exactly. I missed that. Organs and bloating and all that stuff. And and so I lost like 70 pounds. And then I slowly started gaining back because I the the doctor wasn't there reminding me, you eat those Still amusing that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, dude, you you know, you're really gonna die. I have to tell myself that, but it's not the emphasis of that first initial,

like, holy cow. I'd really I really need to get healthy. Now in scripture, the spiritual side, I I I think we're either on on the verge of of a great revival because we are so messed up that people are hurting. People are in pain. Their families are messed up. Their life's at a dead end. You know, they've tried all these things. It doesn't bring satisfaction.

Their organs are shutting down because of all the chemicals. I mean, you know, it's just all it's just we're a mess. We're either gonna go on over the hill like the Sodom and Gomorrah and and just totally embrace it and and just completely implode. Or the next generation will look at it and say, none of that worked. You know, my friends aren't working. My parents didn't work. You know, all this stuff is not working apart from God. And that's what pushes you to scripture and say, maybe maybe there's something in this. Then you start reading it and going, oh. You know, and and it still

boils down to personal choices over over everything. You know, you remember when, we had we had boss Gujana in here. And and she was talking about, what was she talking about? She was basically talking about how to understand God like, you know, it's Like listen to him. Yeah. How to listen to God. Right? And there's some things that she said that I found really interesting. And basically, when she was explaining it, she was saying that,

you know, you can help decipher God's voice in your life when you you we have a thought come in your head and you're like, okay, there can only be three influences here. It's either the devil or God or me. Right? And so she gave an example where she's like, I was at the grocery store and I thought, should go pray with that guy. And she thought, wait a minute. Is that the devil? Probably not. He probably would not want me to go pray for this man. Two, is that me? Definitely not. I definitely don't want to go to this man I've never met and go pray for him. Right? And number one, is that God? Well, it sounds like it's God to me because I certainly not in my own best interest to go over there and it doesn't glorify Satan. So it's got to be God. Right? So like, it's a crude way of doing it but actually, found that root to be to be very helpful and and I think the only reason I bring that up, is because when I was I've been talking to a to a fellow about, reading his Bible and I I you know, we were sitting there talking about it and and he wasn't really grabbing onto it. He wasn't really digging it. He's like, I understand this whole thing. I'm glad this works for you. And I thought and and I kind of used that exact same reasoning when I was talking to him. I said, why do you think that I'm here? Because it it's not really to my benefit to talk to a guy about a God that you don't really are interested in. Like, it's basically boils down to a waste of my time. And frankly, if I'm looking at it in world terms,

as though as when it comes up, you think I'm crazy. You let me go on for an hour. You got a breakfast out of me. I feel like, you win, you know? But the truth of the matter is, like, it's it's it's because I want you to know God. There's nothing glorifying in it to me to sit here and have have and explain this. There's no gain in you. I got another one, you know. That's right. And I I'm selling Girl Scout Cook Cook Girl Scout Cookies or something. Yeah. And I thought, what other what what other that deity idea, you know, campaign would I do that for? What other reason would I sit there and waste my own time, proverbially waste my own time, if it wasn't for the glory of God? And I thought, even that basic idea should be enough to at least grab the attention of the guy that's ignoring you. You know, you realize that there's really no gain in here for me. This is so you can get to know your father, and that is all. You know? And and so there has to be even something to that. And I feel like even taking that step and telling somebody that is a little bit bolder than maybe the last generation did. You know what I'm saying? Like, I and this is just my personal opinion, but I feel a lot of this comes down to an extreme lack of boldness on on on on people who know Jesus, on the followers of Jesus Christ. I just feel like that like we we've kinda got this this ectoplasm

slime spine, you know, from years ago where now we figure we got televangelists. The Bible's available everywhere. Everyone can get a podcast. It's really not my business anymore. And that's really lame and and really produces a lot of of soft people who can't stand up for anything when it comes to the gospel. Right? And so I I mean, when it all basically comes down to it, I guess what I'm saying is is that if you want people to take the Bible seriously, show them that it's serious.

Show them that it does something. Show them that it's not just a fanciful way to to spend 15 minutes before you go to bed or a you know, a cool trinket that you can put up on your wall. Does it change your life or doesn't it? It changed mine. I got I got stuff to say about that. You know, it changed the lives of everybody I'm looking at. I got stuff to say about that. I I know enough people that I've seen Jesus Christ change their life that I could find a guy that's pretty close to you and say that he took he took the guy that I know from you to somebody completely different. And like, there's a Bible that that gets into action, sharper than a double edged sword. That's a Bible that does some work. And I think the people the chat actually brings it up that says that, there was the 66% of the Americans agreed that the Bible contains everything a person needs to know to live a meaningful life while 58 say they don't want advice from the Bible. That means there are dudes there are dudes out there that think it's wise but simply don't want the Bible nosing into their business. And that's the truth. But here's the thing. When it comes down to it, there's some things that just start nosing into your business and you can't stop it. And Jesus is kinda like that. You know what I'm saying? Once he gets in, he doesn't leave easily because he wants you because you're his son or his daughter and he's not willing to give up on you as fast as you're willing to give up on him. Say say, for example, the head of the disciples, Peter. You know what I'm saying? As as easy it was for Peter to say, I don't know him. I deny that he knew him three times when the when it was really going down and it really would've hurt him, who came right back and said, Peter, I need you to run this thing. Came right back because Peter was easy to give up on him before Jesus was gonna give up on Peter. And and look what it turned out. You know, Peter produced a lot of fruit. And so, I guess, basically, if I was gonna throw some advice out there in into as in response to this article,

you know, it's it's kind of a call to boldness, man. You know, say it. Say what you know. It's not like you have to make anything up. You don't have to memorize Deuteronomy. You know I'm saying? Go out there with what you know. What I know is is that I've seen Jesus Christ change lives. In front of me, I've seen him do it. I saw him fix the YouTube. I I didn't know he knew anything about YouTube. Apparently, he does. But, anyway, you're listening to Life From The Path on lifefromthepath.org.

Go check out the podcast. I don't edit the podcast anymore, so there might be who knows what's on there? Some some sometimes embarrassing things. There's there's embarrassing things on the main show. But if you do like the embarrassing parts, we certainly have some within the podcast. As we're talking about boldness, I'm gonna read a a real quick story that my daughter and I were reading tonight out of Mark two. And it's a simple story and I think everybody's heard it but it just it kind of blows me away the simple boldness of what these guys are operating. So we're looking at Mark two verse one. And when he returned to Capernaum after some days, talking about Jesus, it was reported that he was at home. And many were gathered together so that there was no room, not even at the door. And when he was preaching the word to them, and they came, bringing to him a paralytic carried by four men. Bold move number one. And when they could not get near him because of the crowd, they removed the roof above him. And when they had made an opening, they let down the bed on which on which the paralytic lay. And when Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, son, your sins are forgiven. It goes on after this. I'm a read a there's this verse kinda gets missed. That first part gets a mill missed a little bit because the Pharisees stick their big noses in there and and start accusing Jesus of being blaspheming because he'd be he's basically saying your sins are forgiven. And the Pharisees are like, woah, woah, only God can forgive sins. You're way out of line here. And Jesus basically breaks it down and says, look, is it easier for me to say you're healed? Because it's the same thing. I got this covered. I'm king above and below. Shut up. So

but the first part, this is the boldness that cracks me up. There's there's a a paralytic man. A man just has his hands and his feet, they don't work. He's got nothing. And so basically, he could chew. That's basically it. Otherwise, he's getting people to call him around. These fellas, these buddies of his, pick him up, four dudes. I don't know if we've I I've tried moving a couch with another man. It's impossible. You know what I'm saying? You never move at the same time. Nobody ever wants to turn the couch the same way. It turns out the guy's left handed, so he wants to hold it all crookedy. It's a disaster. Here we got four dudes working together, moving a paralytic man. Pretty impressive right off the bat.

Number two, they look at the situation. They go, what? We're not getting in there. So they they climb to the roof, and they literally break it. I mean, they break a man's roof and and and repel a paralytic man through the roof. And and here's what occurred to me because I was talking to my my six year old about this tonight. And I said, how many people do you know if if the opportunity was to bring a man to Jesus, would you destroy his house to do so? Doesn't that sound wrong? And she didn't know how to answer. She's like, yeah, that does seem kinda wrong to break a man's house. I'm like, not when it's for Jesus this time. She's

breaking your neighbor's windows right now. Because because here's the deal. Would you I mean, would you I love you. Would you break how many social norms would you break? Right? Like, is it more important that the guy knows Jesus, gets healed, gets his sins forgiven, and gets to meet the God of the universe, or he puts a little bit I mean, I've seen I've seen the construction of these roofs. They're not, they're not today's masonry but, I mean, they're pretty uptown. And and how awkward is that if it doesn't work? And you you know Jesus You get to run and he's left there on the Right. Where's he gonna go? The man. He's a paralytic man. And so I here's what I kept imagining is Jesus talking to the people, you know you know, tell them about his dad and says, here's here's the deal. Here's here's how the law worked out. Here's where I'm gonna fit in. And all of sudden, you see little little things start dropping from above.

And then it continues on, and then there's a big hole. And then what happens now? It seems like a lot of awkward silence. Like, now there's a big hole. No one's talking. And here's a paralytic man just rappelling his way down. And Jesus goes, I've seen faith. You're healed, buddy. This is excellent. Right? And so I thought, what a what a bold move on just about everybody involved. The four guys who decided we're gonna haul our buddy in, we're gonna break the roof. The standard way is not working. We're gonna get in there. We're gonna shimmy up with a man that doesn't move, haul him up to the roof, break the roof, and then lower him down.

I it's it's bold. It's boldness that I think, like, you listen to the story and you're like, yeah, they let they they they repelled them down after they broke the roof. No big deal, you know? Would you do that? I mean, seriously, would you do anything even close to that? Most of the time, you wouldn't even cross you wouldn't even go stand next to the guy that's handing out tracks at the gas station, let alone that people think that you're associated with him. Right? And so, where

where's your boldness hiding? What's the what what what's stopping us from from being bold now? Is it social norms? Are are we are we do we have a fear of man issue? Are we afraid of the folks that we wouldn't do that? Would Troy, would you take your car, ram it through a bay window, walk in and say, do you guys know Jesus? I would not. What kind of disciple are you? Apparently, yeah. Well Looking into that. I I've read that story multiple times, and I just didn't even think about that. You're you're right. I have I I would get up right before that. Like, I imagine two ladders.

And, I mean, it's the semantics of getting him up on the roof. Yeah. It's not the thought of they're breaking a stranger's roof or whose responsibility is it to fix this guy's roof. But, like, how did they do that? Like, did two guys climb a ladder and then they hang up with stairs? Mean, because it was kind of a common thing. That's like where upper rooms were. But still they had to dig through it. I mean, they had they had to go through it. I mean And it's like mortar or something. I mean, it's waterproof. And here's what I love too is The roof that they can stand on. Jesus Jesus made no mention of the damage to the roof. He made no mention of it. Right? Like He's like, good job, guys. You you do You could've gone about appreciate your faith, but These

guys gotta pay the bill. Exactly. I here's the and and I guess it's it's kinda what I'm getting after is like they they have a Jesus always has the bigger picture. Right? Like, every once in a while, I just wish I thought in the bigger picture every once in a while. Like, I could cast aside propriety and just say, look, is it Jesus or not Jesus? What can I do to disciple a guy? Am I gonna put her am I gonna bet it all? Am I just gonna put it all put it on the table? And if a roof goes down, a roof goes down. I'll I'll I'll belly the consequences later. Let's just do this thing. You know? And I I don't know. It just it it was it was an oddly short story, but really inspired me in in my in my lack of boldness. Right? Like, I could be a you don't have to be a crazy wild man boldness.

You know, we're not talking that you're the new Paul. But, like, break a roof every once in a while. Do something you wouldn't do. You know what I'm saying? Talk to a guy that you wouldn't normally talk to. Put yourself in a situation that makes you a little uncomfortable. I just do it. Put We generally don't like to take risks, do we? No. Not in that area. No. Yeah. Especially not for our faith. Yeah. We'll we'll risk everything for something stupid. Yeah. You know? I mean, but not not to say someone's eternal soul. Well, that's that's the thing. Right? Like wimps. That's what I'm telling That's a valid point. We are we are all lukewarm. I mean, I'll go I'll go to Prairie Meadows and and gamble my house away. Right. But I don't wanna get uncomfortable and tell you about Jesus Christ. I'm not gonna go pray for that guy. He does not like me. That's what I'm talking about. There was two times this week that I failed terribly in my discipleship. And and and both of them were prime opportunities, and I chickened out of both of them. And I could not have been more

sorrowful after it happened. I didn't expect sorrowful. I expected, I'll get them again next time. You know, give me strength, Jesus. The same old. Right? But, like, I was really disappointed because I felt the knock. I felt that, Mike, I want you it's here. Do this thing. And I'm like, it's not the time. It's not the time. We're at a party, Jesus. What do you know, God? I've got this know it's Look not at all these people. You don't want me to embarrass you in front of all these people, Jesus. Bold, Mike. Real bold. Lame.

Lame. So anyway for. It might just be a holy spirit conviction over my failure here last couple last last week. But anyway, just Go ahead. Have you noticed going through the book of Acts, you only get to hear the stories when people actually listen to God? Like, Philip actually talked to the eunuch? Right. We didn't hear about the one that Well, no. Well, we'll

let him go on. It's kinda crowded here in the desert. Like a Samaritan. Yeah. There was never the apostle standing in front of the Sanhedrin and going, who's Jesus? Not you. No. Who's that? You guys seem powerful. We're good. You mean I don't wanna know. The Chet said it's the world changes when we're willing to change it. Jesus is all about that. And frankly, he is. Amen. He does what he wants. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And here's the thing. When you when you when you hand your life over to Jesus Christ, he he gives some of that power to you. You you don't just hold it up in your knapsack and walk around like an idiot. Get out. Break a roof. That's my new phrase. I'm gonna t shirt printer. Break a roof. Break a roof. I mean, I want one. That's a bumper sticker too. It is a bumper sticker. That works. But here's the deal. Not everybody can have it because then it becomes popular and then it's not cool anymore. So it's gonna have to be an underground thing. We're only gonna print up like five. Should we be like a pirate eye chart? Yeah. Arr. Arr. Oh, man. You're listening That was a failure. You're listening to Live From The Path on live from thepath.org.

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That's always fun ones. Okay. Here we go. Dear, live from the path. How do I keep a coworker from borrowing money from me? I have my paycheck direct deposited, which means the money is available a day earlier than Anita's. Oh, smooth move, Anita. Oh. She asked me yesterday if I would lend her money for cigarettes, then I told her I didn't have any cash on me. When I went on break to buy lunch with my ATM card, Anita came waltzing over and immediately told the cashier to ring up the cigarettes on my card. She said she'd pay me back more than the amount charged to my card. In the future, how can I handle this if it happens again? I needed the money for my own use, and now I must wait until the next week for her to pay me back.

Stand up and tell Anita, hey. First off, this isn't your ATM card. Second off, you can wait twenty four hours for your cigarettes. Or if it's that important, get your check direct deposited. I'm right. It it's not something that's only offered to Open a employee. Open a bank employee at the same place. You can fill out the paper I filled out when I started. I'm sorry. Yeah. There is no situation where I would find it socially or in any way acceptable for someone to walk up to me while I am charging something and then say, go ahead and ring up a pack of cigarettes while I'm about to swipe,

and they do it. Surely, there had to be some eye contact be between the person at the register and the person with the card. Like, really? If what was name? Obviously, she accepted the charge. Admitted here. Yeah. The the advice is say no. Yeah. Say no. It doesn't make you popular. I don't care. People like it when you buy them free cigarettes. That's how you make friends. Yeah. I know. And influence people. Here, I want you to back up. Back back two steps up here. K. Be bold. Buy the cigarettes.

The bold move is don't be upset about it. Then break them for Jesus. Yeah. No. Don't break them. Hold on to them. That's as good as you break. Tomorrow when you got money, I'll give these to you. No. Say, hey. Ask if you Today, could they're my cigarettes. Ask if you could borrow one and go and have a smoke with them and talk to them about Jesus. Be bold. You wouldn't do that, would you? You'd rather be mad mad in your cubicle. Type a nasty email to corporate. Dear corporate, so and so, Bob, and this is happening. I don't think I'd really be mad. I just think that there's more appropriate ways to do things. I think Anita's a moocher. Yeah. Anita is. She she crossed the line. Actually, agreed. The chat recommends that, according to the story, the author said, I needed that money now, but I won't have it until next week. She might be slightly It's only a day, and it's it's $7. Well, I that's the thing. She might be slightly exaggerating on the price of these smokes. It's in it's in Massachusetts. Maybe it's Friday. It's not in the middle of Downtown New York. Massachusetts

is not that bad. It's at an airport. No kidding. $20 for a pack of cigarettes. They probably work at the airport. Did you did you buy those duty free? No? Well, you should. Secular says, one way to handle it would be proactive and tell Anita that what she did was rude and you didn't like it. Another would be to inform the cashier that what Anita wanted was not okay with you and to never do it again. Whichever you decide, don't be afraid of hurting Anita's feelings because she has a hide of steel. Wow.

She must. She I mean, she is brazen. I it's Yeah. She's not, like, the first time she's ever done it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was And She was bold enough. And she understands their dynamic well enough to know that she can get away with it. She she has bullied this coworker into doing things for her before. Stop being a doormat. Yeah. I but I do like the

said bold. Yeah. I'm like, keep the cigarettes. Keep them? You know, like, Jesus wants me to be generous. I don't have a shirt to give you, but Right. I got some Let's pack a smokes. Let's go outside and talk. Because that's what that's what friends are for. Here's the deal. Let me get you a pack of cigarettes. Here's the deal. I'm gonna pack a Nicorette. No. Tell you you're being a judgmental religious rube is what you're being. Just But Buy them the smokes. Buy them the smokes and go out and talk to them. Open the door. You don't have you're not gonna lay you're not gonna lay 3,000 pages of the gospel on them in two minutes of coming down on their smoking. Just make a friend.

Make a friend speaking into their life. I I feel like they're already friends. Yeah. Not like that. They're not. They're codependent friends. Yes. I mean One's a people pleaser and one's a Nancy. Yeah. That's what I see. Here we are. Dear life from the path. I'm 24 and a college graduate. My boyfriend,

Jordan, probably the offender, and I have been together for a year, and we would like to get married. However, my parents are against the idea. Maybe not. They love Jordan, but they think marriage is stupid because in 2013, who who's getting married?

I think this is totally ridiculous, but I don't know what to do. I want to be married, and I would love my parents' approval, but it's hard when they call me stupid for wanting to take that step Wow. Just because their marriage didn't work out. I love Jordan. I love my parents. Should I have should I have to choose between the two? Wow. Wow. Okay. Marriage is not a covenant between you,

your spouse, and your parents. That's not how it is. You are feeling like you're ready to get married to this person. I feel like your parents will come around. It's not like they're not gonna show up to your wedding if you decide to do it. I feel like you need to just do it. Or if they do, then it's on them. It's not I mean, it's that the same thing, petty codependence.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. Your parents are just bitter. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, bitter. Hey. I found a man I really love. That's stupid. That's stupid. It's 2,013. Last. That's so 2,012 of you. Ridiculous. Doesn't that go back to that culture conversation, I

mean, you tried that you tried that business fifty years ago. Your daddy hit you in the face with a vase. Marry that woman, you worthless slug. Jordan, you piece of crap. You asked for my permission, and you do it. You should have been married a year ago. The chat recommends buying the pair some smokes. Maybe they'll calm down a bit.

What if they walk up and charge it while I'm trying to buy a Mountain Dew or something? I should just deal with it? Be bold? Isn't this the scary part, though? Like, isn't this the scary part? Is you assume I I don't know. Yeah. I I always assume that parents are are thinking of their children and and obviously, they're not. They're bringing their own business, the dirty, ugly business into in into what life should be like. Just because you screwed it up doesn't mean that you have to paint that use that brush and paint your son or your daughter's life with it. It's not the truth. And Yeah. Here's and the deal. If they were

I'm assuming they're not Jesus people because Right. Frankly, the Bible perspective goes back and says, yeah, all paint the same painting. Yeah. Jesus is the only one painting something different. Why don't you go look at what he's painting? Right? It doesn't matter exactly what colors you use to screw up the painting. You all basically paint the screwed up painting. Jesus will go ahead and show you the correct way to do it. Right? Yeah. See, they've assessed it incorrectly. Marriage wasn't the problem. Them being outside of Christ was the problem. Yeah. And and they did not

live a a a biblical marriage, and and therefore, wouldn't expect it to last. And they were just assuming that's how everybody is and that's not. Hey, Chad's cracking me up over here just for a heads up. You guys are missing it. There's there's wine jokes. There's smoking jokes. Nice. This is the best Jesus loving community I've ever been involved in. I love it. I absolutely love this. I would tell you the parents are absolutely right. It is two thousand thirteen thirteen who gets married, but I don't think that's the greatest standby to go off of. It's just like culturally, nobody gets married anymore. I would probably do the opposite of that then. I I think that might be something. Yeah. How's that working out? You're Exactly.

How's culture doing lately? Is it doing good? Yeah. No. I think I'm gonna go against that. But I mean I mean, break it down to some honest advice here. That would be a very tough position to be in to know that your parents I mean, frankly, they're just a bit harsh anyway. That's stupid. But, like, you're basically gonna, they're gonna think you know your parents are gonna think less of you if you do this thing. And like, it sounds easy in a group of dudes sitting in a room that like, hey, it's not gonna be any big deal. Tell your parents to you. They're ridiculous and marry the woman anyway. But like, that does make Christmas awkward. Right? But there's there's there's a

preset notion on this too. I mean, I guarantee this is not the first time that this stance has been taken. These parents, their parenting style is Are you know? You know what? Doesn't list is that they're still together. It doesn't list if the parents are still together. Like, if they're It implies that they're not. Yeah. It implies that it was an ugly split. It sounds like that. You know that the mom was for was pushing cheerleading on this girl and wanting her to fulfill,

you know Yeah. Make up for what she missed out. The lost time with the bugging father. This is the this is after twenty years of parenting like this. This is not the first time they've swung this bat. Right. I mean and, you know, this person is at the end of their rope writing to dear life in the path to to get to this point. You know? Yeah. You know what? They she she would have saved a lot of time if she said, look. Here's the rundown of my parents. Are they bad parents? Exactly. Should I trust anything they say going forward? No.

My parents wrote a book about parenting and called it what not to do. Yes. Why I shouldn't have had children. What's secular's advice on this one? That would have been awesome. Why I shouldn't have children? Buy Amy's mom. Secular says, you don't have to choose between your parents and being married. At 24, you are an adult mature enough to make your own decisions about the importance of the institution. As to the question of who is getting married these days, one answer is people with college degrees are marrying at a greater rate than those with only a high school education. They are also

getting more divorces. I'm sorry your parents' marriage didn't work but you would be foolish. She didn't add that eye added. Yeah. We could tell. I'm sorry your parents' marriage didn't work out, but you'd be foolish to let their cynical opinion of this kind of commitment taint your perspective. I hope you and Jordan enjoyed many happy and fulfilling years together. Oh, man. Okay. Here we go. Last one. No. No. No. Not gonna happen for us.

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