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And you're listening to live from the Path, coming to the Pathway Studios here at Johnston Proper. It's good to be here tonight. And we got one where does the phrase wingding come from?

It's to indicate a party, but, like, what is the what is the what am I saying? Etymology? Is that the right word? I don't that's the wrong crowd for that, Ben. You said it's to to indicate a party? Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's a wingding going on here. Like a big like a big deal, a big big something. I thought it was a font. I'd say Dan doesn't know. I'd say Buba has no idea. And I'd say I have the best idea, but it's not good. No. If you're like, you're you're, you know, inviting all your friends and you're having a dance. Oh, I know what a wingding is, Dale. I'm saying that. Oh, sorry. He's asking the where it came from. Yeah. What's the origination, though? At that point. Sorry. We're gonna diffuse on the definition. I was gonna say. Alright. Here's the deal. Here's what got going on tonight. First of all, Jeff Arendelle

and friends are in studio tonight. It's good to see you guys. Yeah. Good to be here. We look forward to hearing from them. They got a couple tunes. We're gonna share one one on the on an upcoming release. What? It's a if anybody listened to the show, they would be getting an excellent treat, like a preview. So my grandma will know, Arendelle. My grandma will know this new tune. Yeah. So we're gonna hear hear a little bit from them. I wanna tell we wanna talk about when beggars are choosers. Yeah. So

dealing with folks who you've given charity to that are kinda snipey about it in a Jesus way. Yeah. Because I think we've I think we can make a good guess on how Mike might deal with it. Woah. But the question is whether that is the how Jesus would handle such a thing. I've been asked this question multiple times, and my answer changes depending on my mood for the day. And I thought, well, that's not biblical. There's gotta be a better way to answer. There was some sort of standard. Yeah. And so I I I gotta I gotta be able to apply it because I when people tell the story, I'm like, yeah. That's wrong. That's wrong. And then the next month, I'm like, two tunics, man. Give him a tunic. What's the problem? And so there's got there's gotta be something to point to. Alright. So when beggars are choose, we'll talk about that. I I wanna know this may be like a can of worms question, but the I wanna know the place of teaching how to live

within sharing the gospel. Because I I was reading something today, and it had to do with, how how we're way underselling grace. We spend a lot of time teaching people how to live, and, like, we we like, we need to commit to grace. Grace, grace, grace, grace, grace. K? But and I to a certain extent, I agree. But then I wonder, like, you know, the Sermon on the Mount is kind of a a description on how to live. You know, is it should are we to treat that as the new law, just another way to know that you've fallen short? What what what

type of effort? How much time do you spend? How appropriate is it to be talking on on how to live? And I'll I'll I'll read a little bit to you just so you know where it's coming from. And, anyway, I just kinda wanna chat about that because I think it's it's potentially a problem, but I'm not sure where I'm at with it. I smell Galatians. Okay. That's what I smell. I wanna talk about wives and porn and civil liberties. And I'll I'll tell you where that's coming from when we get to it. And then we'll do some advice

on Dear Life and the Path. And, Mike, Hudson has some Pope style. You believe that stuff? No doubt. We're, like, four years in. First time Pope style for Hudson. Here's the deal. Don't commit to wingdings. I don't care what they say is happening. So we'll do some pope style advice. That's where, someone has mistakenly has mistaken Dan Hudson for the pope, and they're all they're waiting outside of his howl time. A very tall Anglo Saxon pope.

It could be from his jalopy vehicle. But they are trying to but they won't leave his lawn until he gives some piece of advice, kinda like the pope would when he goes out on a little stand and puts a hand in the air and says something. That's that's Hudson's deal for today. He's gonna give some pope style advice. That's what we got going on. I'm excited for the show, Ben. Okay. Very good. Alright. I tell you what. Let's get I wanna talk about beggars and choosers. Okay. So, Mike, what's what's the deal with with beggars that are choosers? So so there's, I I happen to be in close relationship with with with some people that that basically they they spend most of their free time. When I say most, mean most, distributing items to the needy.

They accept donations and then, you know, they don't put it in a storefront. They don't sell it. They just find other people that need it and then deliver it to them. And, basically, it's kinda cut out the middleman. There's no reason for anybody to be making money on this. It's just we'll take it and we'll give it to you. You know, just be honest with your needs and whatnot. And so they they they run into the cause of occasion where where people will be continually asking, like, every month. Like, the a certain group of person will say, okay. I need this this month. And the next month, they need the exact same thing or or, you know, the and then the next month, it's something else. Like, they have, let's say, two kids. One, six months, one, two years. So if they give them six months and two years' clothes, you probably don't need three year old's clothes next month. Right? That sounds real fishy. And so, questions like that come up. And then and then, you know, the the next month, we'll they'll deliver something, and and then the month after that, they'll go, they'll want something else. So they'll deliver something else and be like, you could take these back. These these really aren't. Our our kids are they're not interested in these. There's these aren't quite good enough. Ugh. And so and so, you know, they ask, what's the what do we do with this? You know? Like, we didn't buy the clothes. You know? We're just we're distributing. It's basically gas money and time is where we're at and and looking for the the heart of Christ to serve people. But, like, those kind of things are I don't know. They just make you step back a little bit and go, I I'm not I'm not really sure. Like, is am I stewarding this well? Are you abusing the system? Do I continue to just keep handing over tunics like the like like, when he talks about having two tunics, he doesn't say you have an unlimited closet of tunics, and you just keep giving them tunics over and over again. But then on the other hand, you know, turn the other cheek kinda comes to mind. Like, you know, they slap you once, you just keep rolling back. And so I don't know. Like like, what do you do with, you know, with people that you're that you're trying to show the love of Christ to? And, they are really beggars that are choosers. Like, they what you're offering is not quite good enough. Or I see that you have that you're offering that. I'm just gonna keep I'm a continually take it.

And so I don't know. I I my answer, like I said, it tends to to deepen what on on, you know, what mood I'm in that day. Some days, I'm like, well, let's put a sting on them. Let's figure out what they're doing. They gotta be selling it. There's gotta be something up. You know? I'll deliver it. You stand over there. They're be selling it. Distributing used kids clothes. Yeah. See, I'm I'm on it. You know? And then sometimes I'm like, look. They, you know, they they they saw it. They felt the need, and they asked, and just give it to them. What do you care? Right? It's you didn't you didn't do anything with it. God provided it. And, you know, God tells you to get away, so give it away. So, I mean, is it a case by case basis, or is it is there a is there some scripture that we could fall back on? Is there a blank across the board? Look, it's not yours. It's all God's anyway. Get just give it away. So I don't know. I have, like, three variant things floating around in my mind. So things things that I thought of. One of them is about Superman, isn't it? Two of them are about Superman, actually. So the example for some reason, the example that popped in my mind was you know what? When it's talking to wives

who are married to nonbelievers Yeah. Like, what was the advice? Right? It was, basically, by your actions, show him show him show him the love of Jesus.

Even though and that's that's that's a there's no time time into that. It's as long as it takes, as long as you have the ability to do so. And so, I mean, granted, it's not the exact situation, but I but I wonder if there's if there's some applicability to that to say, if someone's not gracious,

does it mean you don't give grace? If someone is is not, appreciative, does it mean that you don't serve them? And and I I my first reaction is is no. I I I think you do serve them. I do think you do give grace.

I think there's the question of being a good steward. If someone is not, like let's say they're picky. I I guess I I probably don't care if they're picky. If they're not using if they're taking things that could have gone to someone else and they're not using them, I think that's different. Like, if you're not being you're trying to be the best steward of those types of things as you can. I think that makes sense. But people's reaction to it, I don't know. I'm I'm not sure that, that that is such a big deal to me. Well, see, and I think that's where I was trying to dice it out. Because like I said, is it like sometimes it's just a pride thing. Like, how dare you? I watched them put all this work in. You know? They're my entire house is covered in clothes everywhere. Everywhere is clothes. You know? It's like a it's like a puzzle.

But but and and so and some of it's just me being protective of my family members. You know? Right. But then, on the other hand, like, it's it's the steward thing that kinda gets me. And and the example I thought of was, like, it it it just be like if you got ahead of church and then you get a couple of theological heavyweights start going to your church. Right? And they start eating up all the small group time and they eat up all the worship time and they eat up all the preaching time because they wanna ask questions and argue. You know what I'm saying? And then other people are falling to the wayside and not getting, you know, not getting the gifts or not getting stewarded to and not being paid any attention to because these guys are like a energy succubus. And so, like, that's the kind of way I see it with the charity. Right? You get a couple fellas in there that are just, like, taking and taking and taking and taking. It's like, yeah. You give the tunic, but then all of sudden, there's no tunics except for anybody else. Yeah. You know? So it almost almost seems like it's a case by case basis, but, like, I don't have the I don't allow Jesus to make enough decisions in my life to do that correctly. You know what I'm saying? Like, I will still creep in there and go, no. No. No. No. You're foul. There's something foul with you. What do mean not good enough for you? Seriously. You know, you didn't have anything. We gave you stuff. Now you don't like it? That seems wrong. Actually, so so, like, the very reference, though, I I hate the phrase beggars can't be choosers. Because, like, if I even if I asked for like, I've had that happen to me before where, like, just because I I asked for something or could use something doesn't mean I want crap. And it doesn't mean necessarily that they're giving crap, but, like, you know, if you don't dig on it, you don't dig on it. Like, is that a big deal? Yeah. It seems like every time you collect food at church, someone brings kidney beans. Yeah. I'm like, who who who what homeless guy is going, man, I hope I get or lima beans. You know? Real I mean, me me. Oh, some people like Yeah. How long was this in your cupboard before you brought it here? I was like, well, nobody else wants it. I guess we'll give it to the homeless guy. You know? So, yeah, I agree with you there. You I mean, know, if you're gonna give something, be generous. You know? To give give something that And I think it's okay. Like,

it's it's true that some of the people that are, like, that are receiving assistance, even from food banks and stuff, you know, they're not eating the carpet. And so if you gave them if you gave them, like you Finally.

A little reasonable thinking around here. I told them to stop, but they wouldn't listen to me. If you gave them 10 cans of food and, like, nine of them are things that they like, but they just hate kidney beans, is it, like, an affront to you that they didn't eat the beans? I'm like, Well, I I think it more is Maybe give it back and say, hey. Maybe give it to someone else who digs on beans. It's it's more along the lines of, hey. That's not my brand of kidney beans. You know what I'm saying? Like, you give you give soda, and you're like, Hy Vee soda. Come on. You know? And I think that would be the extent where I would say, you know, like, here's the deal. It's it makes it very difficult to try to evaluate whether people actually are in need. And people can be posturing. Like, people do that too. You know? They'll they'll posture as if they're more discerning and they're in a better spot than they are to keep up some semblance of a of a persona that's true or not. And, is it appropriate? No. But,

you know, does does that just not reveal to you perhaps the more that they need ministered to? You know, I I actually just came to my head that why why why Jesus laid it out the way he did when he said said, love God with all your heart and love people. Right? Because loving God is filling, and loving people is exhausting. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's one fill and then there's one dump out. And it feels like you'll like you have to do it equally. Otherwise, you end up out of balance. Actually, that's that's kind of a cool thought. Like, if you think you're, just think of a person that you really enjoy in your life, standing next to a guy that you really can't stand. And then, you know, you spend time saying, dude, I really love you. You're you're great. Thanks for being a cool part of my life. I I really appreciate who you are. And then he goes, good. You know what you can do for me? Love that guy. Good luck. Yeah. You're no friend of mine.

We're parting ways, I guess. You know, I was gonna I was gonna mention. So I I'd heard this, and I don't don't hold me to this. I haven't checked up on, like, the the societal references that were used, but I heard it explained that section of scripture when it talks about the tunic and and the turn in the other cheek and the going the extra mile. Yeah. That those were were way more pointed at acts of defiance, really, against Rome. Because, for example, if someone were to to to smack you in the face, they would do with their back hand as an insult. K? If you turn them the other cheek, they don't have a choice but hit you with your forehand,

which would or your palm, which would mean they have to treat you as equals. And, of course, the Roman government wouldn't do that. That was an insult to them that you would offer them that cheek and assert yourself as an equal to them. Similarly, when it talks about a brother taken to your court, so, the Old Testament says that, like, you can't leave a man naked. You can't do it. And so if he sues you for your tunic and you give him the cloak too and you walk out of the court naked, the shame is on the other man for having taken your things, for for having left you naked. And so, like, again, it's a it's a it's a protest. I really love that if that's true. And the the the the last one was, was the Roman soldier. Okay? So the a Roman soldier could come up to you, okay, anybody and make you carry their things and walk a mile with them. They were not it was not legal for them to make you go any farther than that. Anything past that, and they could go to court, they could be held liable, because the government said you could take a mile and that's it. And so if you offer to go two miles, now you're in a real now the Roman soldiers in a real position, because either has to let you do it, which puts him in a real trouble with with Rome, or he has to say no, which puts you in a position of power over him because you said, I'm gonna go this extra mile. And he's and he's having to say, no. I'm not going to don't I want you to go the extra mile. And you can kind of insist on it. And, like, you've taken a position of power and act of defiance against that guy.

I'm trying to think now if, in light of that new information, how the how I've applied those scriptures to charity. It has something to do with throwing the beans back at the man. I'm not following You will eat it and like it? Are

you saying it's not applicable? Is that what you're getting at? See, all those examples are are when you are being treated, where you you are being mistreated. I think perhaps like, if that's if that's accurate, I think because sometimes we misuse that verse as, an excuse for being trampled on, and it's just not. Like, that was not Jesus advocating for you to get stamped upon. It was, it it was it was a a sign to show you will we you can protest against these things

nonviolently. There's you don't have to start a war. You are showing force here without having to, like, lift a finger. So I I'm not sure it applies, which I think is part of the point is is sometimes we use those scriptures for backing of, like, just let a guy continue to use me or, like, abuse my, my privilege or whatever. And, like He's saying use your brains to get the best of them. Exactly.

Exactly. So I don't know. This is a whole new angle of the gospel that I'm really in love with. It'll change your life thinking of it that way, won't it? So what what did we decide now? Did we come down to a there's probably not a straight answer. Jeff Erindale, what are your thoughts?

I'm still stuck on those kidney beans or and lima beans. Do you like, what if done it, haven't you, Erindale? You're the kidney bean man. But shouldn't you also bring, like, a pound of hamburger and some spices? They can turn it into chili. They don't like chili. People don't yeah. But people don't do that beneath them. That's the thing. People don't people don't Okay. It's perishable. I understand. Yeah. But then they don't give you a a can opener, so you just have a can you can't do anything with. Yeah. It's the biggest joke on the homeless man ever. Cans. Cans. Cans. This. No can opener. Don't you wish you could eat it? I bet those kidney beans are old.

You'll never know. That's not funny. That's terrible. So I mean so here's the thing. I I think it's appropriate to think I I wanna be a good steward of these things that God has given or that people have provided that I'm to distribute. So being mindful of that, I I think it's good to protect the stewardship of those items and how you use them. However,

you know, people's behavior probably isn't the reason to be turned off because people will I mean, people will do that, especially people that need Jesus. Okay. I think I hear what you're saying now. So if if the people repeatedly abusing the system, you put, like, a rancid meat in there, and that re that that you've gotten the best of them. Here, you can have it. Absolutely. Rancid meat. Done. I think that's exactly what Jesus was giving. Yeah. We we've boiled this down somewhere in Titus, I'm sure.

Everybody skips Titus. I don't know. Did Mike that's all of your that's all you're saying? I'm not really So I mean, so what's the what what do you think the what's the crux here? What's the fulcrum of the discussion? I I feel like it's a I it's a it's a good steward discussion. Right? Like, do you do you let someone rob the rob the coffers to leave nothing to leave nothing left simply because the coffers are open? Right? Like like, do you let him take like, you say buy one, it's like to give a penny, take a penny. You let a guy rob 85¢ out of there. And does it I I guess, does it matter if the man needed the 85¢ versus whether he was abusing this? He didn't need it. He just took it because he wanted to. Is that your distinction? Maybe. Yes. Because, like, I I I'm thinking, like, let's say I left my let's say I left $20 on the table and, like, some, I don't know, kid that was obviously in need snuck up and poorly stole my $20 and I saw it.

I may I may or may not stop him. Yeah. But, like, if, you know, if the monopoly man shows up, struts in with his monocle and, like, makes off of my 20, looks at it, sniffs it, and he's like, takes it with him, I'd probably say something about it. Is that the wrong distinction? See, I've I've made the wrong distinction. I think that's I think that's probably where the where the uncomfortableness comes in is because, basically, you you have to judge, justice. You know what saying? You have to say whether it's right and whether it's wrong, and nobody likes doing that, especially when they're trying to serve Jesus. People just wanna throw it out there. That's what I wanna do. I don't wanna be hassled with a bunch of I think you deserve it. I don't think you deserve it. I I didn't deserve what I got. And so, you know, but but to a certain point, if you start to mistreat it or keep others from having it, then we start to have a problem. And so it really is it's a discernment thing. And, frankly, I just I I I don't think there's a blank across the board statement that you can make. I mean, it just seems like you just gotta look at it and be honest with people. And, you know, maybe they'll just demise themselves if you if you're brutally honest and and be done with it. I don't know. Demise themselves? In a in a in a in a not taking the stuff kind of way, not a not a heartbeat kind of thing. It's like a some sort of eyebrow wax. Yeah. I use the I'll take the demise. I use I use the wrong word sometimes.

I went to a week before I got here. I don't feel right. You're listening to live from the path. I don't think we landed on much. No. We no. Good luck with your problems. Yeah.

We're making a Those people that are giving things to other people that do not want them. It's a valid but ultimately unsuccessful attempt to solve the world's problems. You're listening to life in the path. That's just how it is in here. We're we're in studio with Jeff Arendelle, and band. And, Jeff, tell tell me about, what's going on in your world. Well, got an opportunity to head back to Nashville in the spring and got the first five tracks of a new, CD put down, the music tracks for that. And, hoping to go back well, planning right now to go back, towards the end of November to get five more. And then sometime maybe before, you know, 2020,

we'll get the Yeah. The vocals on there and the the new product. I'm very excited. Actually, it's going very well. Had a lot of the same musicians, and, sounds really good. The drummer for Vince Gill? No. This time, it was the drummer for, gosh. Who does he drum for? It was somebody famous. Right on. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I love that guy. I also have those kind of people over at my house. Sure.

They take the clothes. Yeah. So Alright, Willie Nelson. You ain't getting any more pullovers. I'm telling you that you've had too many. No. It wasn't him. But there are also a lot of opportunities for us. And by the way, I wanna make sure that Jason, Brandon, and Matt get plenty of kudos. We don't really have you know, you may try to give us a name at one point, the Jeff Arendell band. Rid of Matts. Yeah. I had I had it was like the two Matts band. Yeah. But then you keep getting replacing Matts with other people. Oh, no. This doesn't flow. Yeah. You have a Matt. Jeff Arendelle band. How about that? Yeah. We'll make Yeah. Let's go ahead. Jeff's like, oh, yeah. I mean, that works for me. I I don't know.

How do you feel about I am great. Anybody against that? Oh. Oh, man. It's me right in the heart. Jeff is handsome? Anybody. These are all just ideas.

Oh, the name can't lie, though. But, we've had opportunities to, to get out about and play, quite a bit. We were at Farragin this year and, played at Praise Fest up in is that Grimes? Granger. Yeah. That's right. So did that.

Also, we've been starting to play some, some smaller some smaller churches in, you know, kind of out in the country, which has been nice. Been been to several churches that, you know, they have an older congregation, you know, and they're doing hymns and that sort of thing. And so it's kinda nice and fun just to go in and charge them up a little bit. So it's been fun to take some old hymns into those places, but juice them up a little bit and, usually have a pretty good reception, you know, when we're there. I agree. Sometimes setting fire in a nursing home really does the job. You know? That's kinda what I got out of it. Get up get up and go with them. That's not funny. You know, but you get to play in some really cool places when you do that. We played it at we played it at church out South Of Earlham that is, like, a 150 years old. The building's a 100 years old, but beautiful stained glass windows and the acoustics in that place almost as good as in here. By the way, this is one of the better rooms in all of the Des Moines area. I don't if you guys people really starting to get a reputation. Fooled by the quality of the furniture and the show in general. Yeah. But, don't let it fool you. These four walls, they hold some tunes now. They do. I mean, I think of the Ryman. I think of that church out south of Erlman. I think this Yeah. Live from the past studio. Live from the past studio is absolutely Jeff Farndell is handsome. Yeah. That's really Maybe Jeff is great is the name of the name of the band.

Who who was your engineer that that did this? Or was it just bubble gum and empty pop cans? And You know you know, here's the deal. Alright, Arendelle. That stuff's not on the camera. You know I'm saying? The life happens below the camera. Okay. We're back to Jeff Stinks. Alright. So so tell me about the song. Well, this one that we wanna do, God, You, Our Father is a, it's a worship song

basically from Psalm one forty five. And and also brings in other elements. Obviously, it's it's the characteristics of God, but also making sure that we share with, those who follow behind us as those before us shared with us the characteristics of God, his miracles, whether it was from the old testament or miracles in their own lives. And it just it's lifting up the character of God, I would say, I guess, a good way to do it. So Sweet. Yep. I It's called God your father. Alright. You're listening to live from the path with Jeff Arendelle. God, you are father.

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God, you are father. You are father. You are father. God, you are father. It's Jeff Arendelle.

I like that song. You know what know I like about Arendelle's tunes? Here's the deal. They're like a soundtrack. You know what I'm saying? Like, this happened last time you were in here. I was determined that I could ride across country listening to the tunes. You know what saying? They're just ones that I could just you know what saying? Like, you don't you don't you don't wanna skip them. Yeah. Like, usually, on, like, song number four, I'm like, usually usually one's hot and heavy, two's like the the the breadwinner of the CD, three's okay, four's like, alright, you're just phoning it in. You know I'm saying? But I don't feel that way. I feel like all these tunes are are are, like, totally listenable and, like, they they they run on both the, like, the the the song structure and the and the words are like, they they they apply to me. You know? And so I really liked it. I I like that Thank a you. Thank you. Alright. You're listening to Life in the Path. You can find more about Jeff Arendelle, handsome Jeff,

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Really? Hudson. It's obviously a lie. Yeah. That plays for comedy at Ben's place. Nowhere else. Nobody laughs at me anywhere. Alright. You're listening to live from the path. Hey, you can catch us every Monday night here at livefromthepath.org at 10PM or Saturdays at 07:00

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Hey. Alright. So here was the question on, oh, hey. Hey. I I came across this thing about church stereotypes. So according to Google, Mike and this is weird that this came up because we were just trying this last week, is we if you start typing with the Google predictive search,

you just start typing stuff, and then you'll kinda see what it suggests. And it's kinda funny, like, you know, I got lost in Saint Louis and and then, like, the first four entries are, you know, I ate two donuts and passed out or, like, you know, like, they just the things that people are searching for. So anyway, they did they did some of this to find out about what the perceptions were of, like, certain dominant denominations and of churches in general, and it's really sad. Oh, no. So, like, here's here's one. Why are evangelicals

and here are the four first four suggestions. Why are evangelicals so judgmental? Why are evangelicals so annoying? Why are evangelicals Republicans? Why are evangelicals

so crazy? But then now now the the only thing to think about this particular set of Google search results is, like, the guy that's searching it. There's gotta be a particular guy that's, like, not opening up to his friends and neighbors and saying, hey, man. How come that guy is kind of annoying? He goes to the Google and and wants some guy in a website to answer the question Yeah. Why are evangelicals so annoying?

So, you know, there is a little bit to learn from the guy that's searching for that and why those would be the top four results. But they are the top four suggested results anyway. So you're answer the question? No. It doesn't. It doesn't answer the question. You got ideas there, Dale? Mine

Here's here's a couple the okay. Why are Presbyterians and here we go. Why are Presbyterians different?

Why are Presbyterians wrong? Why are Presbyterians called the frozen chosen? That's pretty cool. Why are Presbyterians unique? That sounds like a marketing campaign for the PCA.

They're like, they have guys searching that just to move it up in the results. I'm like You know, here's the deal. Like, why are Presbyterians wrong? Here's what happened. Evangelical man got a conversation with a Presbyterian. He's like, I don't know what it is about that guy, but he ain't right. I just judge him. I gotta I'm Judge him on. I gotta I gotta I don't wanna actually read my Bible, so I'm gonna get somebody else who's got the Bible verses ready. This is so interesting because so, like, if you look at why are Anglicans, like, fourth recommendation is why are why Anglicans are wrong? So, like, the only thing I can think of is you're meeting somebody, and they're telling you about their faith, and you go home, and you're like, I know that guy's not right. And so you Google search things like, why are Lutherans incorrect? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I might have done that before. I wasn't gearing up for an argument or anything, but I heard I I can't remember what denomination I heard this guy. I'm like, do all I can't I do all so and so's think this? Like, this man sounds ridiculous.

And so I think I searched it to find out the tenants of their faith to figure out where we'd fallen astray, but I don't know that I was personally, you know, picking a fight out with a guy. Yeah. Alright. Real quick. I don't think it's gonna take too long, but I kinda wanna talk about this one. There's a book out called How Sex Became a Civil Liberty by Leigh Ann Wheeler, and it it it's basically about how, like, the ACLU has has formed

how we think about sex, how we separate public and private, and that kind of thing. There's one interesting the the reason that she wrote the book though was was the interesting part that I saw. She said while discussing she was a history professor

at the University of Minnesota. Says while discussing pornography with her students at the University of Minnesota, the history professor found that nearly every female student admitted that she would not ask her boyfriend or husband to remove pornography from their home for fear of violating his right of free speech. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. How many people? I don't know. It's a college classroom. So yeah. Call call it 30. Percentage or I I No. No. It was all of them. All the ladies. Yeah. All of them. It said near nearly all. Okay. So say 90%, 95% of the ladies in this classroom said, you know, I wouldn't take ask him to remove his pornography

for fear of violating his right to free speech, which I I think is the crux of of of what the book is about, which is a conflation between what is public policy, what is private, how one has influenced the other. Because, like, obviously,

the government there there's no there's no standard within the government that says, you can't ask your husband or boyfriend to remove his porn from your house. Right. And so but but but, like, the majority a wide majority of these ladies believed that. And so I think that's kind of the crux of the book, but I thought, really? Like, is that is that does that does does that not surprise you? Because that really surprised me that there would be people that would think that. Because they will leave their husband because there's porn on their computer. Computer. But, like, feel like the government might come in and say, violation of the First Amendment, you told him to get his porn out? Wow. I don't know. It's and it boggles the mind. You know, it's funny. I was listening to a conversation today on the radio about they were talking about predictive population growth.

One guy was on there and was worried that we were under populated. Another guy was worried that we were over populated and they were basically squawking it out. Both of them said the whole mess could be fixed by providing sex education to women and contraceptives,

and then all this would be fixed. And I thought, man, like, I hear what you're saying on a logical level. I really feel like y'all are missing Jesus here. Like, I feel like if anybody understands population control or how to grow, say, a world, I only know one being with that kind of experience. Right? I'm not that guy. I know one guy that has grown in Earth and then and then, you know, made it fertile and then decided what was gonna happen. Right? And and and they've taken that one character out of the story. And I thought

it just seems so foolish to, like, take a story that's already half written and then decide you're gonna take authorship of it and decide what to do with the characters. And and and it's it of course, that means one side. It was on the radio. I was talking to myself in the car. But, I I I it just got me to thinking a little bit, like, how many times in my own life and and and obviously others' lives do I do this? Right? Like, I I I take what the Lord set up and I go, I see where you're getting at, author of the story. Old Mike's gonna take a turn. We're gonna do this. We're gonna call this chapter, you know, 27 a, and then I'm gonna do this. Like, he has no idea what he's doing. And it it was just funny to listen to him talk with no with no reference to a creator or or that, that was any type of guiding hand of the world. It's like, look, we need to talk to him about sex, and that way, you know, they can have more contraceptives. That way, if they don't want kids, they don't have to have kids. Or, you know, if if if they want more kids, then at least we give them good good health care, you know? And I thought, you know, I mean, there's there's good logical points either way, but the whole discussion was mission was missing god and, like, a a a family unit that can, a, financially support kids and, b, emotionally support kids and, c, spiritually support kids. Right? Well, move c to a. But you know what I'm saying? Like, none of that was talked about on because if we had I mean, you'd have population control, probably fall right in line if people had to sit back and go, look. Can I reasonably afford this kid? Yeah. And check. I gotta I gotta raise and pay for this one, and I intend to do so. That probably cuts the population down by quite a bit. Yeah. We if we could even get half the dads to to hang on to the the the bucking bronco for longer than they do, we'd really have something here. Instead, we got dads that'll that'll that'll impregnate a woman and then haul out and impregnate another one and then haul out and impregnate another one and be a father to none of I feel like ladies don't like you referring to them as bucking broncos. That was a a mistake.

Yeah. Hey. Speaking of that, by the way, a classic I I don't know. This is this is wrong because they ultimately produce pride in me. But I was driving home, and I was late. I was late coming home from work today, and my wife calls. And I pick up the phone, and she's like, where are you at? And so I start saying, here's where I'm at. Here's what I'm doing. What's the deal? I mean, you could have started dinner. What's what's, you know, what's all this stuff? She's like, I could have started dinner. I'm like, well, I mean, what was it? Twenty minute? I'm trying to, like, con like, explain my way as way I'm late. And I got halfway through the conversation, and I stopped and said, I've done this wrongly. I'm very sorry. I should have called you, and I apologize, and I'll be home directly. Yeah. And then I thought, yes. And then I thought, you prideful beast.

How dare you recognize your achievements? The devil has set me up. Be late, Ben, and be prideful when you're right. That's ridiculous. I I did anybody think for sure that when Mike said the thing that was missing, it wasn't gonna be the yelling at dudes? Did anybody think that? I thought for sure what you were gonna say was, the thing that was educate women, the thing you were gonna say was,

why don't you just tell why wouldn't you educate the men? Yeah. That's what I thought was coming. Yell the dudes. But but I agree. It's it's the kind point that's missing. He he he kinda answers all the issues. Yeah. I that's actually how I feel, but that's not the legitimate answer. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like dudes could use a good yelling, but the lord Jesus will handle most of the yelling. You know what I'm saying? I'm only called to deliver to certain people. Anyway, if you're not for being referred to as a bucking bronco, that's info at live from the path dot org. Just let us know about how you feel about Mike and his ways. Bring it on. My inbox is full already from last week.

Hey, man. The the penis episode was on KTIA. I caught a little bit of it. Yeah. Yeah. It was. We may have said some stuff a couple weeks ago that shouldn't have made it past the PC network.

I mean, that it's totally passable on prime time TV, but maybe if you represent your the of a Jesus radio show, you might want might not wanna use the word penis. I think it was I think it ultimately turned out fine, but, like, I I did get a slight enjoyment out of the the whole crux of the conversation was is these people using words and Christians getting upset about them, and, like, putting all your eggs in the don't use that word basket. And, I just have someone being like, oh, those boys said penis. Oh, no. Oh, Dan. Dan has pope style. Follow-up. How do I follow-up? You have to follow the penis discussion. Go ahead.

Sorry. Sorry, KTA. Go ahead, Dan. Okay. So here's here's my pope style advice. You got the 10,000 people out in the front yard. They're waiting for me to say And the the advice is get up and and start moving. And here's the context to that so so that it makes sense. Talked to someone recently who was just pouring their heart out. They're just there's just a lot of issues going on in their life. Lost a job,

had made some mistakes. Just life was down. I mean, just everything was just down. And I just kinda wondered, is god mad at me? Is he doesn't like does he not like me? Is he punishing me? And, we kinda started talking about the story of Job a little bit. I say, you probably because he's he's found himself recently really diving into the scripture, really diving into his prayer life. You know? I said, well, it sounds like you're going in the right direction. You know? You you you have responded correctly. You know? You maybe God's just getting your attention. Maybe he doesn't you know, he's not angry at you. He's not punishing you necessarily.

Sometimes it's just life. You know? And and and and I think you're probably going in the right direction. I said, you probably have read Job lately, haven't you? Anyway, yeah. Yeah. I read Job. Well, here's the story of Job. Here here's the situation with that. In one day, he loses everything. You know, 10 children, all of his business, everything. It's just it's just gone in one day. And you fast forward to the end of of the chapter or, excuse me, of the book, and and it says at the very end there that, basically, god gives everything back. You know, he has 10 more children. He has more success financially in business than he had before. And so how long do you think that took? You know, I mean, he lost it all in one day. You're not gonna gain everything. Whatever it is you're going through in life right now, it's you're not gonna wake up the next day and everything's right again. We know it took at least nine months for the first baby to come. You know? He had 10.

So we're we're we're talking about an an extended period of time that he rebuilt his life, but he had to get up and start working. He had to do something. He had to he had to he had to engage back into his business. He couldn't just lay in that heap of of dung and and ash like he was before with the boils, you know, and from the scene earlier in in Job. He had to get up and start moving forward. And I said, I think that's where you're at right now. You God has taught you something. You you've connected with him at a higher level, and and what you need to do is just acknowledge, okay. I'm I'm through this. I'm working through it. I'm still in it, but I've you've gotta get up and you gotta start moving and and start working forward, with your life and rebuilding, finding a job, you know, correcting

the mistakes and that kind of stuff. And I just thought, you know, there could be just people out there who just need to hear that. You know? That that just get up and start moving forward. At some point, you've gotta stop feeling sorry for yourself. Start stop feeling hurt.

Stop finding all these reasons to not get up and move and and move forward in your faith. Yeah. That's a it's interesting to think about because because even guys like, at some point, right, the sackcloth comes off. Yeah. You you wash the ashes away, and it's time to move forward. Like, we you don't see anybody in perpetual sackcloth. Yeah. And I I don't to be honest, I don't know if I've ever really thought of the Job story thinking how long it took him to rebuild. It just kinda popped in my head. Yeah. You know? And I thought, I don't know. Maybe that was a holy spirit moment.

May I I don't know. But I thought that that that was kind of worth repeating. You know? It's a it takes a while. It takes a while to rebuild your life when you when you've crashed, and, it's not gonna happen tomorrow. But but it's but it won't happen at all if you don't start moving. Yeah. Yeah. And some of it's kind of just accepting,

right, accepting your circumstances and saying and just calling it for what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I remember in, in in first Samuel three, so it's he has called he's called, Samuel. So the Lord is calling Samuel, and the the house of Eli is in trouble because his sons are, are running a ruckus around the around the temple. And, I I always love this. Like, every time I come to this, like, you'll see a number of underlines and circles in my Bible because the lord speaks to Samuel and kinda pronounces the judgment upon the upon Eli and his house. And Eli says, you know, kinda tell me what what did he say? Don't hide this from me. And, and he says, and I declare to him that I'm about to punish his house forever for the iniquity that he knew. Therefore, I swear to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

And then Samuel told him everything and hid nothing from him. And then Eli goes, it is the Lord. Let him do what seems good to him. And I thought I mean, he just had judgment pronounced upon him, and he's like Yeah. Sounds about right. It's the Lord. Let him do what seems good to him. And I thought, yes. I wish my life like, I I wish I had a a a better outlook on life that whatever may come, I'm like, it's the Lord. Let him do what seems good to you. Yeah. It's like that that,

you know, frat buddy you had from back in the day where people come up, tell you some outrageous stories that he went, like, skydiving with super fly Jimmy Snooker or something. And you're like, yep. That's old Steve. He does that stuff. Yeah. You know, that's that's basically Eli's response. He's like, that's the lord. Yep. He called it right. You know? He's he's right about that. You know? That's that's it's funny, Dan. I was just thinking about, I've been talking to a couple of fellows, and and actually, this is me on occasion, but, like, sometimes you find yourself in a little bit of a lull in your faith, you know? Like Yeah. You've seen great things. You've seen Christ do great things, and and and you've been a willing participant in his gospel and and talking to others about it. And then, you know, every once in a while, you'll be in a valley. And and and when you're in it, you're like, how did I get here? How do I get out of this? Right? It just it just doesn't feel right. You're not against him and you're not, like, willfully sinning or disobedient. You're just like, there's something wrong. Something doesn't feel right. I don't I'm I don't I'm just not feeling the holy spirit like I used to. I'm I'm I'm missing some kind of charge, you know. And it was funny because that was the exact same advice that I've that I'd come up come up to. It's like, you gotta you just gotta get back to where you were, and it's it's gonna take a little effort on your part. Right? Like, if something happened, the disconnect happened somewhere. And it wasn't God. It wasn't God that left you. Right? And so, like, when when this happened to me, I started looking back. I'm like, I'm still reading my Bible. I'm like, I I I did kinda cut it way down because I felt like I was overdoing it a bit. And I was having, like, 50 conversations with people about Jesus a day. And, and I was listening to a lot of sermons, and I'm like, this is taking up way too much of my time. I gotta tone this down. Well, there may be some truth to what I was saying, but I went way too far the other way. Like, I I pulled the rubber band back so tight that when I let go, it went it went to Kansas. You know? And so and I think what happened was is I was doing you know, I had cut my bible reading down and my prayer time down to the point where my relationship was borderline nonexistent.

Right? It was all fact I was I was pulling in factual information. I wasn't pulling in any hard information. And so, that's exactly what I did and that's actually, you know, how I how I kind of worked it back is I just I just started moving a little bit more. You know? And it's just like I just had to start all over, but with somebody I already knew that, I knew had grace for my actions. But but it's it's funny. I was just thinking about that today because there was a couple of people that I was gonna plan on talking to this week about, almost that exact same subject, so that's fairly timely. Just because I have it up, I was gonna share with you something else that I really enjoyed from first Samuel. Alright? So first first Samuel six, the the Philistines capture the ark of the covenant.

All they get got all kinds of troubles. Right? Boils and stuff. Things are causing all kinds of problem. They get we gotta get rid of this. We gotta send it back. And so they tie it to a couple cows, and they send the cows on the way. And the wording is great because when it talks this is in first Samuel six twelve, says or 11. They put the ark of the Lord on the cart and the box with the golden mice and the images of their tumors. And the cows went straight in the direction of Beth Shemesh along one highway, lowing as they went. They turned neither to the right nor to the left. And the lords of the Philistines went after them as far as the border of Beth Shemesh. So I thought, isn't it interesting

that that the cows were able to accomplish something that the nation of Israel never could, which is not to turn to the right or to the left. Right? Because like the whole like, the whole Torah is full of, you know, don't turn don't turn to the right or to the left, and they're constantly failing. And these cows think it's the exact same language. Right? The cows are rocking what the nation of Israel could not do. And lowing all the way. Yeah. We got this down. It's gonna tilt. Don't touch it. Alright. Anyway, you're listening to live from the path

every Monday night here at 7PM. Hey. If you do wanna get ahold of us during the week, you should find something better to do with your time. But you really could send us an email at [email protected]. I I I actually do like that. I don't mean to casually mock you. No. But, you know, if if it's between, you know, spend time with your wife and kids or, like, email us, go with the wife and kids. Yeah. Wait till they're in bed or something. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Stay up late. Listen to the podcast. Get angry. You can contact KTA if you don't like the word penis. They can help you out with that stuff. Yeah.

We talked about this last week. If you're a dude that's busy and and totally involved with your family and ministry or whatnot, you're not hitting bed before midnight. You don't have time. Yeah. So put us between 11:45 and midnight on the way out Yeah. Kinda deal. Yeah. I think it's gonna work. Alright. Let's see. Well, shoot. What do we got time for? Alright. Arendelle, we got time for one more too. What you got? Yeah. We're gonna do a hymn for you. We're gonna do one that, was one of my grandmother's favorites after church on Sunday.

She would after the meal on Sunday, which was always awesome, she'd be singing, the hymns that we sang in church. One of her favorites was trust and obey. So That was Jeff Fairdale. You're listening to live in the path. And wait.

That's a that is that coming on the CD, Jeff? Because that's spicy. Yeah. No plans for it at this point. But But maybe reconsidering now. But maybe reconsidering with this this look in your eyes. I like I like that one. I really I really didn't like that one. It gives me the fire in my belly. What's that? What's my favorite? I had some, if you're looking pumpkin cookies before I came in, so, I that could have been part of it. What's my favorite one that that I'm looking forward on the CD? What's my favorite one, Ben? Oh, you like the most high? Yeah. Most high. Is that going on the CD? Oh, yeah. That's, good. Love I love me the most high. Yeah. Well, thank you. Sometimes I like to listen to it at home,

when I do the laundry. That's just something for you to know. Maybe we could talk about it later. Yeah. That's not for everybody. You are listening live from the Path. We're coming to you from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. Big thank you to the Eisenhower team, ninety nine point three KTI, and the folks at Westfield Veterinary Clinic. If you listen to the podcast, we still got some more show to go. Plenty of free bonus

the bonus content. Yeah. There's there's Dear the in Past coming up, man. Yeah. That's right. We've got some advice on Dear Life in the Path. I hope you're having a great evening. Thank you for listening to Life in the Past. I brushed my teeth with this one. You know what you don't do? Cut your nose hairs to this one. That's a problem. It's like Edward Scissorhands up in there. Hey, man. I can

hey. I saw I was recently on a very long plane ride, I almost Edward Scissorhands was part of the it's part of the movie selections. Yeah. And I just couldn't get myself to do it because, like, I thought people are gonna the late next week gonna judge me watching Edward Scissorhands. And I couldn't figure out and then I spent a good hour trying to figure out how she would be judging me, like, she might think of me. What's the profile of a guy that watches Edward Scissorhands by himself on a plane? What kind of man is this? I couldn't come to anything. There's nothing to come to.

I thought of something else. Oh, hey. Hey. Another good moral question. Sorry. I like to I like to let this tune play. A moral question. So I went to the Walmart and I needed I was in I was recently in The Philippines. Right? And I plugged my hair clipper in and it it fries. It fries in The Philippines. It's just like there's a small fire in it. Right. And

so I need to buy a new one when I get home. So I I go into the Walmart, and they're for sale. And it seems expensive to me, so I look it up on the Amazon, and it's like $6 cheaper. So I say, is it wrong to go into the Walmart, find it cheaper on the Amazon, and just buy it from the Amazon and leave the store empty handed? Because that's what I did. No. That's right on. And and not only did I do that, but, like, I also decided that I need something to control my, my force of, of ear and nose hair. Yeah. Because I put it, like, heretofore. I just waited till my wife pointed it out and then grabbed it between the old pinchers and gave it a Yankola. You know? Yeah. Here's the deal. My wife my wife would make stuff up. She'll be like, you got a nose hair hanging out, and I'll look at it. And I started taking pictures of the underside of my nose every once in a while just so I know what's up in there. Because she's always saying there's stuff out of it, and I look at them like, I don't see anything coming out of this. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. I don't either good. I think yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm a go I I took one out this morning. I'll tell you something, though. Oh, yeah. You wanna wake up in the morning, you'd yank one of your nose hairs out. I tell you what, that'll give you the what for. Out the door you go, buddy. You're ready for life. I'm so glad that I do not have this issue, and I'll never have to worry about it. Oh, no. It's coming. It's coming? Yeah.

What do you mean you don't what? Terrible. What? You have a malfunctioning nose if there's no hair in it. You remember that you remember that grandpa from look who's talking movies? Ava Goda. Yeah. That's what happens in my ears. I'm telling you. Hey, wait. Yeah. Hey, guys. It's like Martin Van Buren coming out my ears. It's outrageous. You know, you're at you're at the you're at the, barbershop,

and the lady that's cutting your hair, and you're all done, and you're looking good goes, now you want me to get those eyebrows for you, don't you? It's like, woah. What what's wrong with my eyebrows? What do mean? What are you talking about? Yeah. I did it this way on purpose. Hold on. Call it the Yes. I do. I call it the Encino man. Leave it alone. I haven't checked this in while. Hold on. What's going on? It's a vagodadead.com. Hold on. Yes. No. The answer is no. Ugh. Nope. Okay. Good. Like a hundred and twenty five? I don't know. But, like, they keep the I I mean, here's the deal. You never know whether the guy actually keeps the site updated. Because, I mean, yeah, he could have died already, and I just don't know. That's a good point.

Alright. Mike, what do you got? Dear, lie from the path. My 86 year old dad buys all his food from the markdown quick sale tables, then lets it sit in the fridge for weeks or even months before he eats it. He insists the mold is penicillin and good for you. He eats moldy cheese, bread, fruit, and meat that I wouldn't feed to my dogs. He has turkey in the freezer that expired in 2008, and he can't understand why I won't cook it for my pets. Dad reads your column every day, so please give me some input. By the way, he isn't poor, and he can afford good fresh food. Perplexed daughter. Okay. Here's the thing. Is he still I mean, he's alive. Right? He's kicking it. He's ready for action. I feel like he's it seems to be playing out in his fashion. Yeah. He says he's fine. He seems to be fine. I don't know what room you have to argue with him. Yeah. You're a food snob. I disagree. What do you mean? It is none it is unhealthy.

Says who? You? You have you have a doctorate in nothing. He's still alive and kicking, Dan. Think For now. He spends a lot of time in the restroom.

Yeah. He didn't say anything about that. Oh, I know. You can't add stuff to the story. I think I'm willing to put some stake into the fact that if we ask a professional or someone who does have a degree in this that, hey, you know, we have a guy that's actually eating moldy food. He claims that the mold is penicillin. What would you tell him? Is it safe or not? I think that person would say no. Well Old meat? They just want you to Old meat? They just want you to visit their office. Can't you see this? He said he said the old meat was to be cooked for the dog.

No. He said No. She said she No. The daughter wouldn't even cook it for their dog. No. No. No. No. Right. But follow that up. Read the read the sentence again. He he doesn't understand why I wouldn't cook it for my pet. Hang on. Why I didn't have it ready? He has a turkey in the freezer that expired in 2008, and he can't understand why I won't cook it for my pets. Thank you. We didn't prove anything. You just put your hands up and said thank you. No. You no. It's because you pointed at me and said, no. She said that you I wouldn't even give it to my dog. What I'm telling you is that he he wasn't offering to eat the old turkey. He was saying you should at least cook it and give it to the dog. I think there was other old meat, though. Wasn't there? Steak. Yeah. Steak and stuff. Didn't say anything about steak. I I think I think there's a I think that's a an initial sign of some early on dementia that he needs to get fit. He needs to get looked at. What's wrong with you people? He's fine. He's 86 year old. He he knows life.

At least for the last, say I think for fifty years, he's been running his own. He's kinda forgotten something of life, then he can't remember why he's sick all the time. Are you serious? Because he's eating bad food. Arendelle, you on this train too? No. I'm I'm bowing out. I've no expertise in this area. You have no opinion either way. I throw it away. A man is either poisoning himself or not, and you're bowing out. Okay. That's classic. Alright. Hold on. So why

is mold bad for you when penicillin is good for you? Mold is usually associated with negative thoughts. We all know that a lot of molds can cause serious health problems, but did you know that it could also help us? They're going in some cheeses. Moldy cheese is just cheese cheese. So far so far, the man's health is on ox. But some cheeses do not have moles, and mold is what gives it that distinctive taste. Right on. Mold is in many medicines that defies the He's connoisseur. He's not a fool. Yeah. But he's not licking the walls. I feel like he's alright. What about this? What about milk? When when is it not okay? When do you if you have milk leftover, and it's Two days before the date. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotta go. Bad. You wait till it tastes bad. Sometimes if you smell it even before it's bad Oh, yeah. It smells bad. You don't take it. Don't smell it. Just don't smell it. Just drink it. Yeah. Two days before the date, I I chuck it. I'll taste it I'll give it to the kids. But I thought what the German mold was good for us. You mix that with cocoa puffs. That's not That's not mold. Yeah. That's curd.

As nasty as what it is. Here's what, Secular says. You guys were no help at all. Secular says, Your father is a product of his upbringing during the Great Depression, a time when many people were starving. The habits people form when they are young can be hard to shake. One reason that perishable products have a sell by date is that the food begins to lose its nutritional value. As to your father's excuse that he's ingesting penicillin when he eats moldy fruits, vegetables, baked goods, dairy products, I'm sure his doctor would prefer he get it by prescription only. Still not going kill him. Spoiled food wait a minute. Here. No. I'm sorry. Spoiled food can cause serious illness, which is why the US government publishes pamphlets on the important topic of food safety. Oh, yeah. I trust them with my life.

Visit foodsafety.gov and print out some of the food safety at a glance charts for him. Oh, I'm sure that's gonna work. Absolutely. If he refuses to take your advice or mine, perhaps he'll be more receptive to what uncle Sam has to say. Absolutely. I believe secular got some tax, write offs for that one right there. Here we go. Here's a Hey, dad. I know you I know you don't trust your family, but here's a couple pamphlets from the government. Yeah. I'd like to show you how this is unhealthy with a graph from the United States government. Please enjoy this overly funded, under organized pamphlet.

Dear, life from the path. Oh, man. This one seems heavy. My boyfriend of two years, Jesse, has suddenly changed. He's pushing me away. Oh, no. We are both 17 and have a nine month old baby. Oh. 15 to 17, there are some changes going on. I understand. Jesse spent the oh, no. Jesse spent the first six months of our son's life in state custody. Since he has been back, he has been really distant. He ignores me and isn't affectionate anymore. When I get upset about it, he denies it and says I have no reason to be upset. I'm scared our relationship isn't as strong as I thought. My son deserves a family, but it's falling apart. What should I do? Okay. So Repent.

Here's the thing. Jesse probably is distant. He's gotten himself weighing over his head. He took on a bunch of man sized responsibilities, and he's a boy. There's no relationship. It's only hormones. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're in for some trouble here. So so the real answer is, apart from yelling at the kid, which is not available at the moment, we'll just say that he's unavailable for being yelled at. You, as the person that wrote in here, you need to find yourself some good godly counsel, a woman, a good godly counsel who's a woman, and snuggle on up to her and start having some conversations. There's a lot of background in this story. There's a lot of stuff going on. You're already in charge of

taking care of a child. What would be best for Jesse is to do the exact same but with a fella, get him paired up with a good Godly father who knows a thing or two about raising kids and walking a life with Jesus Christ. But there's there's not a quick fix here. There's not a a twenty minute conversation you're gonna wanna with them. You basically have,

a life apart from God, which is hard to reconcile into anything that represents joy, until you make that move towards towards God. And and it's not too late. It's definitely not too late. It's gonna be more difficult. You you have a child, but that's okay. You can still win through this thing. Just and you gotta admit to yourself, he's gone. He's just gone. He got what he wanted. He's he's on he's gonna go find someone else now. It's gonna it's gonna happen, and it's probably best. It's best for the family, best for the child, best for her. She needs to to to,

she can start rebuilding her life and start moving forward, and and she'll be okay. But but it's gonna be it's gonna be a long road. Arindel, you wanna pony up on this thing? I agree with Dan. It's gonna be a long there's a lot of hurt there. There's a lot of mistakes, but, it's never over, I mean, especially with Christ. So Here's what secular says. This is where the disagreement's gonna come piling in. You have no idea what might have happened to Jesse after he was sent away, so give him some space. But let him know that he wants to talk if he wants to talk about it, you're willing to listen and be supportive. Don't push and don't be clingy. You may have to be strong for all three of you. Complete your education, take parenting classes, and encourage Jesse to do it too. Do this and your son will have a family, whether or not it's the one you thought you'd have with Jesse. I kinda agree so far. Most of that seems alright. I

don't know if I agree taking all the burden off old Jesse here. He's supposed to be shouldering a good amount of this and really coming away with nothing. But if he's not gonna do it, you know, somebody has to do it. So I think that's alright. I wasn't ready for the next one, Phyllis. I'm try well, was trying to think if I don't know. That she's she's in a a really difficult spot because, like, don't be pushed or don't be clingy. Well, I mean, I I don't know. How else do you gonna get that guy in there? He ain't gonna show up to that stuff.

Hey. Hey. I'm feeling distant. Maybe you should take a class with me. I feel like if he's not responding to someone who can offer him sex, going to this, going to this parenting class is probably not something he's gonna get on board with. Yeah. That's a good point. Something to think about. Ready? Dear life from the path. I have two sisters and three brothers ranging in age from 52 to 69. All of us except one are comfortable financially.

The exception is our brother, Jerry, who is homeless. He lives in a park and does odd jobs. He owes money for old student loans and probably back taxes, so he's hesitant about finding a real job and having to fill out a w four form. I know a lot of boys like this. Yeah. I can't really report that. I believe he uses alcohol and marijuana, but not often. Absolutely. I'm the only family member who is in contact with him, and I give him money occasionally. The others may not be aware how bad his living situation is. I have no room for him in my house because my adult daughter and grandson moved in. We are not a close family, although we have no animosity. Should I send an email or letter to my siblings about our brother? Should I ask for suggestions on how to help him? How should it be worded? I'm sure. Write him a letter. Where are gonna send it?

To No. No. To Dave in the park. No. No. No. He's saying, should he send it to the brothers? Yeah. To the homeless guy. You're not gonna say, dear Jerry, you're homeless. Love, Sharon. Please read this and then use it as a pillow. Well, I yeah. I don't know. You can't make your family care. You can't make the rest of your family care. I mean, maybe they maybe they do care if they knew about it. I like the insinuation that he owes back taxes. Well, he I mean, it's it's like it's like gossiping in his problems. And he may be smoking marijuana. He may be smoking pot, drinking drinking booze, and oh, back taxes. Oh, no. Back to booze. Didn't he read that pamphlet the government gave him about taxes?

So what I I maybe I didn't quite understand. Like, the question is, should I involve basically, should I involve my siblings? And if I'm gonna write him a letter, how should I how should I write it? She she needs to know if he really wants help or needs help or or I mean, she's assuming a lot. She hasn't had a conversation. She knows he's in a park. Go to the park. Have a conversation with him. Hey. Why haven't you gotten a job? I suspect you're you owe back taxes. Is that true? Or is there a a different issue? Let's get this out of the way. It's the taxes. Otherwise, she's just spreading hearsay. I mean, she's just

she needs to know what's really going on. How can you help someone if you don't really know what the problem is? Yeah. That's a that's a guy I mean, maybe he's an outdoorsman. Maybe he loves to sleep in the park, and he likes marijuana and alcohol. I mean, good luck getting him out of it. We could ride a bunch of people. Like, you know what? Mean, if he if he wants if he wants help or needs help to to get out of that situation, then, you know, I'd start reaching out, obviously, if you're not able to do it. But, yeah, I I don't know that it has to be some kind of special wording. Hey. Our brother Jerry sleeps in the park. Do you give a rip about that or not? Let me know. Give me a give me a shout. Call me on the phone. You got a phone, don't you? You know, let's skip the letter. Why don't just call a guy? I mean, are gonna do? Have an intervention? They're all gonna show up at the park. Alright. Go buy a house. Right. We're taking your bench. I mean yeah. Yeah. That's public property. Put it back. What what

is it they're going to do exactly? Well That is that is a weird solid especially a bunch of blue hairs down there. I mean, let me see. We can get three three 65 year old guys down there roughing up another 65 year old man. Oh, I guess I didn't catch the age. Yeah. Yeah. They're like we said raging from 52 to 69. I'm assuming they're all three elderly,

and they're rolling in there and and starting to boss elderly homeless brother around. It doesn't seem right. Maybe he was at a nursing home, and Arendelle set fire to the place. That's how he ended up in his predicament. No. That was Mike that he set the fire. Do you feel the holy spirit? Here's Fire is generally the presence of either judgment or the presence of the holy spirit. Pick.

But I'd run either way. Here's what, Segler says. The answer to both questions is yes. Your message doesn't have to be, long or fancy. Firewriting it, I would put it this way. Are you aware that our brother Jerry is homeless, living in a park, and surviving on odd jobs? This is a disgrace to our family. Do you have any suggestions about how to help our brother? Wow. Bring in the pride train. Don't let it go without me saying how it affects me now. People who live on the streets or in parks usually have more problems than unpaid student loans and back taxes. There's often a significant mental health or substance abuse issue. My suggestion would be involve a social worker and steering your brother toward the help he needs to get his life back. If there's money involved, wouldn't it be more wisely spent that way? Oh. What do you anybody?

I feel like I'm on my own here on this advice. I I don't know. I I I feel like yeah. Like, you to to what end does it does it do any good to goad the rest of your family? You know, like, either either you care or you don't care. I don't I don't think saying, you know, oh, you might be potentially disgraced if so and so was living in the park.

I mean, aren't you already disgraced? Never thought that about any member of my family that I I hope someone doesn't find out they're my family because it will reflect poorly on me. Never have I thought about that. And there's some there's some low lives on my side. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. Everybody knew. Alright. You got time for one more? Yeah. One more. Dear life from the path. I'm getting married next year, and in my excitement, I asked four of my good friends to be my bridesmaids.

As the dates grow closer, I'm realizing just how much a wedding really costs. Would it be wrong for me to change my mind about having bridesmaids? The girls haven't paid for anything yet or wasted any time during the planning process. Please help me. I don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings, but I can't afford to have a wedding party. Does it cost a bride money to to have bridesmaids? There's all kinds of stuff. There's the food and the You gotta give them gifts. Right? The gifts. You don't have to do nothing. We gotta buy the outfits. I don't think I got No. I think the bridesmaids buy their own outfit. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. I really do. Have you ever been a bridesmaid, Eric? Never have. Yeah. Always the bride.

I think it's perfectly fine to to communicate to the people and say, hey. Guess what? Weddings are expensive. I can't afford this. Just be honest. I I would take back my wedding. I mean, not the marriage itself, but the wedding any day of the week. I wish I had done something. I mean, way scaled down. I don't I just I don't care. I don't care at all. The the llamas were excessive. Well, I mean, they ship from Brazil for, like, half the price. We

we planned our wedding in one month. Yeah. I mean, I don't wanna do it homeless like you're saying, but, I mean, I'm just No. I mean I've toned down a little. We had a church. We we you know? It just Hey. This isn't the Dan show, Dan. It's not that everybody be like Dan. I think they should be. You're basically saying you should be like me is what you're saying. Call happy people. For personal advice, how to affect their own situation, not how to be more like Dan. Here's the deal. Here's what you should do. You should shape your life like I've done mine. What your problem is, you don't own this sweater. Write

a letter to your brothers and sisters and think about how shamed they would be if they don't help You had a low rent wedding? Yeah. I don't wanna shame you. She could be homeless. The following people did not help with my wedding. By the way, you're not Dan Hudson. Here's what secular's advice says. Contact your good friends individually and explain the situation just as you've explained it to me. Once they understand that financial constraints prevent you from having the wedding you fantasized about, none of them should feel slighted that you need to scale back. Frankly, I commend you on your good judgment in recognizing this now. Here's the deal. As no one else is involved as involved in your wedding as you are. You know what saying? Like, you're committed to some kind of deal. Most of your friends don't care. They don't care. And here's the deal. If you have catty, judgmental friends, maybe you should swap out friends. Yeah. Maybe it's time to find it. There's a nice man in the park who could use your friendship. It's where the rubber hits the road. Yeah. Hey. I'm gonna scale down my wedding. No way. You're out of it. Done. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's alright. Okay. Alright. You've been listening to live from the path. Thank you for joining us tonight. We will see you next week. Hey. So we didn't get to the conversation about,

about the the place for for working on your Christian life. Dang. That would have been a good one. Okay. Hold on. I'm gonna give you a heads up of what it is, and then we can think about it, and we'll talk about it next week. So here's kind of the premise. Therefore, our okay. We've concluded that the focus of the Christian faith is the life of the Christian. Therefore, our messaging is shifted from Christ and him crucified

to humanity, and it improved. Ever since the fall of man in Genesis three, we've been obsessed with ourselves. Add to that the fire to the fire the fuel of the enlightenment's mantra for progress is inevitable and the manifest destiny DNA that has marked our country since its inception. And it's no surprise that our man centered culture of narcissism has seeped into the church. Whether it takes the crass form of health, wealth, and prosperity or the more theologically sophisticated form of an obsession with sanctification and holiness,

the bottom line is we've concluded that this whole thing is about our transformation, not Christ substitution. Or to put it more accurately, Christ substitution is a means to an end, the end being our transformation. So my question though, from that is then what what place

certainly not diminishing the power of grace and the necessity of it, but what place do or do we talk about things like the Sermon on the Mount or, like, the advocations to to be holy because I am holy? Or is he saying, be be holy, you will be holy because I am holy? So I guess that's what I wanna that's what I wanna talk about, kind of where this is coming from and what that fits into, you know, are are we on the wrong track by saying, fellas, this is how you gotta pull yourself together. Stop this. Stop this. Do this. Are we gonna yell at dudes next week, though? I don't know. That should you continue to yell at dudes? I don't know. How does that fit in the grace? Are you denying them grace? You confuse me on whatever you just said there. Just the whole thing from beginning to end. Alright. Hold on. We're gonna I think Airedale's gonna send us out with a tune. Yeah. What you got? What you got, Airedale? Send us out. I'll fly away. How about that? Okay. Hold on a second.

A little bit old timey.