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Live From The Path · Season 2014, Episode 12

Misused Verses

Recorded · 1:19:55 · 16,783 words transcribed

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Topics covered

Segments

  • Show open from the Pathway Studios 0:01–1:10
    The show opens with the produced intro voiceover and a host welcoming listeners to Live From The Path from the Pathway Studios in Johnston. The hosts joke about fitting together on one camera and tease the night's main question: how to know you are reading the Bible correctly.
  • Main topic setup: are you reading the Bible correctly? 1:10–3:58
    A host frames the night's big question: how do you know the verses you apply to your life were written for you rather than stolen from someone else's story in biblical history? He introduces a FaithStreet article by Ben Irwin listing five commonly misused Bible verses, which the hosts will work through. He also teases the trending-news segment and Dear LFTP letters about family conduct.
  • Sponsors: the Eisenlauer Team and Westfield Veterinary Hospital 3:58–7:45
    The hosts thank sponsors Bob Eisenlauer of the Eisenlauer Team (transcript renders 'Eisenhower') and Westfield Veterinary Hospital. They riff on realtor Bob Eisenlauer being a smooth, wholesome salesman, then roast a host (addressed as Dan) for never taking his mangy dog to the vet, joking about the vet clinic's resident cat Buster.
  • Misused verse 1: Jeremiah 29:11 and 'prosperity' 7:46–14:47
    The hosts read Jeremiah 29:11 ('For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. Plans to prosper you…') and debate its misuse. They argue 'prosper' gets read as Western wealth rather than God's kingdom purposes, and note the original audience was exiles in Babylon whose heritage was being dismantled. The takeaway: the verse reveals God's heart and sovereignty, not a promise of suburban prosperity.
  • Misused verse 2: Romans 8:28 as a callous comfort 14:47–18:59
    The hosts discuss Romans 8:28 ('all things work together for good to those who love God') being misused as a license to keep sinning ('shall sin increase? By no means') or as a callous brush-off to grieving people ('don't worry, God's working it out'). They agree Jesus joins people in suffering, and that the verse is true but weaponized when used to skip emotional involvement.
  • Does God speak to me specifically? The Holy Spirit's role 19:00–26:57
    Prompted by a chat question, the hosts wrestle with whether Scripture is a personal message or a general one. One host asks what the point of the indwelling Holy Spirit is if Scripture isn't meant for personal application; others answer that the Bible reveals God's character (Ephesians 1's 'we are forgiven, pure, holy'), and the Spirit highlights what applies. They warn against claiming random promises ('God's gonna prosper me') while affirming believers can internalize what's truly theirs.
  • Misused verse 3: Luke 11:9, 'ask and it will be given' 26:58–31:39
    The hosts read Luke 11:9 in context (the Lord's Prayer, the midnight friend, the father who won't give a snake). They conclude the promise isn't a blank check for sailboats: asking happens within a Father-child relationship, pointed at the kingdom, with the Holy Spirit as the ultimate gift in verse 13. A host notes a loving father doesn't give a child everything asked for.
  • Misused verse 4: Philippians 4:13 and endurance 31:41–39:03
    The hosts note Philippians 4:13 ('I can do all things through him who strengthens me') was YouVersion's most-accessed verse, then re-read the surrounding context: Paul learned contentment in plenty and hunger. They reframe it as endurance through circumstance for the kingdom, not 'bless my plans' motivation, and agree using it as a callous comfort (e.g., after a spouse dies) misses the point — better to sit silently like Job's friends before they spoke.
  • Misused verse 5: Matthew 26:11 and the poor 39:05–40:47
    The hosts read Matthew 26:11 ('You will always have the poor among you') in the context of the woman anointing Jesus while Judas objected. They agree the verse gets misused as an excuse to ignore holistic ministry ('why fight it?'), though one host admits he's never actually heard it used that way — more common is justifying a bigger house as a way to 'bless people.'
  • Devotionals, snippet culture, and applying Scripture today 40:47–50:43
    Answering a chat question, the hosts agree most devotionals are 'cotton candy' — half a verse plus pages of commentary — though one host's college biblical professor paired scholarship with devotion well. They land the main topic: approach Scripture with humility as an eavesdropper on God's conversation with history; it reveals God's character, and the question is always in what way a passage applies, not whether the Bible still applies.
  • Chat question: did God knit each of us for a specific purpose? 50:44–55:07
    A chat question asks whether God knit everyone together in the womb for a specific purpose (Psalm 139). The hosts split: God certainly knew each person, and wired people with different talents, but they debate whether that's a specific individual assignment (like David as king) versus a general call to use strengths for his kingdom. The segment ends with the KTIA 99.3 radio sign-off, directing broadcast listeners to the podcast for the rest of the show.
  • Post-radio-break banter 55:20–57:21
    Back from the radio break, the hosts riff on the 'knitting the show together in the womb' metaphor, with one host joking he nearly said 'afterbirth' on air and another teasing that saying 'placenta' would make Ben hungry. They also trade thoughts on Bible study: one host reads several opposing commentators so he doesn't settle on whoever he read last.
  • What's trending with Dan: the Kaufman family sailing rescue 57:21–1:04:10
    Dan's trending-news quiz opens with the rescue of Eric and Charlotte Kaufman and their daughters Cora (3) and Lyra (1), whose sailboat broke down 900 miles off Mexico with a sick one-year-old, ending in a U.S. Coast Guard rescue. The multiple-choice question asks whether bringing small children on a round-the-world sail was responsible; the hosts split, with one host (addressed as Boova) voting that parents' first responsibility is children's safety, while others argue the boat was the family's home.
  • What's trending with Dan: Dappy's hashtag face tattoo 1:04:11–1:08:38
    The trending quiz continues with rapper Dappy, who tattooed a hashtag below his right eye and posted it to Twitter so his face would 'trend forever' — unaware Twitter was reportedly phasing out hashtags. The question: how do you know if you've gone too far chasing popularity? The hosts agree a permanent tattoo of something that'll be irrelevant in months is too far, and joke about 'jump the shark.'
  • What's trending with Dan: NY fire vs. police charity hockey brawl 1:08:38–1:11:51
    The final trending story: the annual New York firefighter-vs-police charity hockey game erupted into a 25-minute bench-clearing brawl (police won 8-5). The question is whether it's embarrassing or expected. The hosts mostly say it's hockey and it's New York, until Dan cites Proverbs 20:3 about keeping aloof from strife — which a host calls the worst misused Scripture he's ever heard, looping back to the night's theme.
  • Dear LFTP: the 15-year-old who didn't cry 1:11:51–1:14:01
    A 15-year-old listener writes that when a friend's parent died suddenly, everyone in her grade cried except her, and now classmates are texting that she doesn't care. The hosts reassure her: not everyone cries, she shouldn't fake it, and the gossips are the problem. They read the 'Secular' advice column's take (lie and say you were too stunned to cry) and reject the lying while agreeing a card or flowers is a kind gesture.
  • Dear LFTP: boyfriend Chico wants 'time alone' 1:14:02–1:16:47
    A listener dating 'Chico' for six years writes that he's grown distant, says he's confused, doesn't want to break up but wants time alone and phone calls only. The hosts are unanimous: he's looking for other options, it's cowardly, don't marry him. They read the 'Secular' column's gentler take (wish him well, let him go, it may be a growth period) and mostly agree with letting go.
  • Dear LFTP: the always-right boyfriend in their fifties 1:16:48–1:19:16
    A listener in her fifties writes that her boyfriend thinks he's always right and calls the relationship off after every argument, leaving her to patch things up. The hosts say yes, let it go: 'You can either be right or you can be married. You can't be both.' They agree threatening to leave is a cowardly move, and concur with the 'Secular' column that his conflict style is unhealthy.
  • Show close 1:19:17–1:19:47
    The hosts close out Live From The Path, directing listeners to livefromthepath.org to sign up for the podcast, and sign off until next week with a final stereo-channel joke about a host (addressed as Boova) being on the left side.

Bible references

  • Jeremiah 29:11

    For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. Plans to prosper you.

  • 2 Timothy 3:16

    all scripture breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness

  • Psalm 139:13

    I knew you in my mother's womb. Knit you together in the womb.

  • Matthew 5:3

    blessed are the poor

  • Romans 8:28

    We know that all things work together for good to those who love God.

  • Romans 6:1-2

    shall we sin increase? By no means.

  • Luke 11:2-13

    And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened to you.

  • Philippians 4:13

    I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

  • Philippians 4:11-12

    I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound.

  • Matthew 26:11

    You will always have the poor among you.

  • Proverbs 20:3

    it's an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife, but every fool will be quarreling

  • Genesis 2:25

    Adam and Eve in the garden. They were naked. They felt no shame.

  • James 1:5

    he will give wisdom to those who ask

  • Romans 16:16

    greet one another with a kiss of love or with a holy kiss

  • John 3:16

    John three sixteen

Key questions

  • How do you make sure you are reading the Bible correctly? (host-framed)
  • Does God have something specific for me, or is Scripture's message general for everyone? (listener)
  • What is the point of the Holy Spirit's guidance in interpreting Scripture if it was not written to us? (host-framed)
  • Did God knit each of us together in the womb for a specific purpose? (listener)
  • Would you disagree with most devotionals? (listener)
  • Was the Kaufman family's decision to sail around the world with small children responsible? (host-framed)
  • How do you know if you have gone too far chasing popularity? (host-framed)
  • Is the New York fire-vs-police charity hockey brawl embarrassing or expected? (host-framed)
  • I did not cry when my friend's parent died and classmates say I do not care — what should I do? (dear-lftp)
  • My boyfriend Chico has grown distant and wants time alone — is it over? (dear-lftp)
  • My boyfriend thinks he is always right and breaks up after every argument — should I let this relationship go? (dear-lftp)

People

  • Ben Irwin
  • Bob Eisenlauer
  • Dave Herrick
  • Dappy
  • Eric Kaufman
  • Charlotte Kaufman
  • Cora Kaufman
  • Lyra Kaufman

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the Path. And you're listening to live for the past. It's gonna be from the, Pathway Studios here at Johnston And Proper.

It worked. It did? What did? Mike and I fit on the same camera. Yeah. I know. You you're together as one once again. That's great. That just got weird. Here's what we got. What? What's weird about that? Two guys coming together as one? That's well, never mind. That's not gonna be good. That's not cool. My bad. I've represented that incorrectly. I don't believe that's biblically possible. You're listening to to live from the path. Here's what I got going on the show tonight. So the the big question of the night is is how do you make sure that you're reading the Bible correctly?

No doubt. Specifically, how do you know that you're using a verse, like, that you're using whether the verses that you're reading should be applied to your own life, or does it belong to somebody else in biblical history of which you have stolen it and applied it to your own life and perhaps used it incorrectly? Or does it is there a merger of both? And how do you approach that? And so what what I'm gonna do is,

I found an article where a guy basically wrote, here are the five bible verses you need to stop misusing. Alright? So I'm gonna I'm gonna read we'll read some of these verses and kinda talk through them on how people how they might be misused and what what the appropriate context was. And then, frankly, how should how should we react to that? Because I I've run into people, and you know that they're not using scripture right, but it is scripture. And maybe they pulled it out of context. But when you put it in a

nothing was written to me. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Paul didn't never said, dear Ben. You know what drives me crazy? Yeah. All these books are like bible promise books. Like, those some of those might be your promise, but most of them were specific promises to some dude long time ago that Pair of Javez. I got the pair of Javez from Ben

for one of my kid's birthdays. Make me rich. I did not buy that. Kids pair of Jebes. I thought, what happened here? There must have been a sale. I don't ask for much. Wealth, friends. Lord, if you could just make me a b character and inspiration for millions. Hardly message like mention me, but bless me all the same. That's what I want. I swear to you, I I wanna talk through that a little bit. That it's actually conversation that my wife and I have quite a bit. We're we're we're walking through scripture and stuff, the question does this belong to me? And if it does,

then how am I supposed to take this knowing that it actually belonged to someone else at the time? So we'll walk through some of that stuff. Cool. We also got hot off the presses. What's trending with Dan? What's going on in the news this week, Dan? You wanna know now? No. Just give me a heads up on what it is. Oh, there there's a couple that was on a boat, and they had their their they were gonna go around the world with their young children. They got a little bit of trouble. There's, the New York Fire Department and Police Department got in a big fight in a hockey game. Okay. And then there's some rapper named Dappy. Anybody know him? I don't know. I don't anyway, he got a tattoo of a hash mark. Okay. Of a hashtag? Because he wants his face to trend. Okay. Dappy. Okay. Hashtag Deppi. That's what's trending. Alright. So so the question we'll we'll get to what's trending with Dan is is what are the appropriate reaction to some of these things? So Yeah. Oh, I got one for the last one. I'll wait my turn. You may be surprised. Also, got some advice on deer live from the path. People of people, I don't know, times are still tough, Mike. People got troubles in the world. They need to know what's going on. It seems to center around mostly family business. In fact, a lot of the questions on dear life from the path have to do with how to behave within your family.

And maybe we'll just take a a big giganto swing at that. Okay. Here's how to conduct yourself within a family. And we'll see if we can make heads or tails of what's happening. Alright. Sounds good. Sounds good. Before we get too far going, I wanna give a big thank you to our sponsors. Bob Eisenhower from the Eisenhower team. Hey. I saw Bob. What? Okay. So I'm meeting somebody for coffee on Friday. And and we're chatting along. We're talking about Jesus stuff. And I can I can hear Bob Eisenhower over to my to my east? Was he selling a house? I I think something was cooking. Yeah. He was talking about properties. And so I thought, who's talking about properties? It sounds like Bob Eisenhower. By gum, that's Bob Eisenhower. And sure enough, he comes over and he glanced. Here's the deal. Bob Eisenhower is a smooth guy. Yeah. He's a nice wholesome smooth man, and he makes you wanna talk to him forever. And he's also an excellent realtor. Yeah. It's two things you want in a man that sells houses. He's a guy that wants to talk to you forever, and he sells good houses, and he does it well. That's Bob Eisenhower. Go to the eisenhowerteam.com, and and he's the guy to contact if you're looking to buy or sell a home. And he'll walk you through the whole process. He'll make it it'll feel easy. You'll get halfway through, and you're like, I I thought buying a house was supposed to be a big to do. And Bob Eisner would have just like coasted you through it. Yeah. That's what it's like working with Bob. Also,

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for the dog. Take the doggy to the vet and make sure it's healthy, will you? Yeah. Yeah. You guys make me feel guilty every time you talk about this. And yet, your dog doesn't seem to make it in, man. It's kind of a mangy dog. We we got the perfect place for you to go, Dan. I I should go there. Yeah. It's in Johnston. Right. There is no reason for you not to be taken care got like the growth that Ben talks about. It's got the teeth brushing thing that hasn't happened for four years. Yeah. You're not winning anyone over with this. Yeah. Isn't that sad? You said, hey, animal who has no choice in matter, come live with me. Oh, I don't wanna pet you because you're getting gross, but I'm not gonna take you in to get it fixed. Because the calendar hasn't happened. You're worst you're the worst man ever. I mean, for growth? Growth November or something, I don't know. We'll wait till they get a colony going, and then we'll just do it as a party.

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but, like, they always got, like, a low decibel voice to them. Like a memeow. No. Memeow. Actually, the coolest part about the vet the vet animal that, like, lives at the vet is there was there was some kind of wild backstory to it. Right? He came in here with, you know, frostbitten ears and one leg stuck in a in a mousetrap. But still managed to drive in on his own tractor. He dropped himself off, and he said, give me the juice. Yeah. He's lived here ever since. Don't fit in this outgoing mailbox, but I'm gonna sleep in a deck. Yeah. We call him buster. I'm not sure why.

Alright. Okay. So here's the other question on the table for tonight primarily is how do we read the Bible correctly? More specifically, how do we use Bible verses when applying them to our lives in the appropriate manner? One of the risks that we run with taking the Bible is we kind of twist things around. The very the very devil type method, you know, did he really say? How does this kinda twist a little bit into doing what I want it to do, having the bringing what I want the Bible to say and and kinda taking it from there? But sometimes you can even read the Bible straight, and things apply to somebody else. And then you have to wonder, does this does this apply to me? Is this prescriptive? Does this describe my life? Am I supposed to assume that their God's promise to that guy is the same as to me? And how do you know the difference? Mhmm. K? So,

we'll walk through these just a little bit. This was, from faithstreet.com. Ben Irwin wrote an article, said five bible verses you need to stop misusing. So I'm gonna give you we're gonna walk through some of these and get your reaction as to how they can be misused, what they really are to mean, and how we should apply them to our lives. Okay? Alright. First one, Jeremiah twenty nine eleven. One coming. Dave's laughing all the way. For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. Plans to prosper you. Dot dot dot. Quit okay. On the table, does the Lord know the plans he has for everyone, and does he have plans to prosper them?

I suppose it depends on your definition of prosper. I'm not sure Judas prospered. He struggled with the prosper. Ananias and Sapphira didn't seem to prosper very well. Steven did really well till the rock started flying. Well, that's what prospered at. So the first part, I think we can all agree upon. Well, that's the thing is I I feel like he has plans. Like, it depends on your definition of prosper. Like, my definition of prosper is sweet things happening to me. The Lord's definition of prosper could be, you're furthering my kingdom at your own expense.

Take this prosperous thorn in your flesh. Yeah. I really don't need missionaries in the middle of the ocean on a fancy yacht. Congratulations. Yeah. Here's the deal. Like, I've had a lot of conversations about that about that verse in particular. Especially what's the other Jeremiah verse? Is that in there too? The ones that stop misusing? Womb? Something in the womb? No. Anyway

but but the yeah. That's a psalm. Is it? Yeah. I knew you in my mother's womb. Knit you and knit you together in the womb? Together in the womb? So Mhmm. Anyway That's psalms. Yeah. I've had a lot of conversations about both those verses actually. Only to only to the point because people are disappointed with what that prosperity has brought them to this point. You know, they're like, they're dissatisfied with their relationship with God because they were under the impression that, you know, turning over your life to Jesus was gonna equal prosperity on their own terms. Yeah. Yeah. He Jesus kinda gives a whole different definition of prosperity when he says blessed are the poor, and the kingdom of heaven is really more for

people who are not wealthy, people who go off and sell all of their wealth in order to attain the kingdom. Is that the thing, though? Is that is that our is that the standardized Western version of prosperity? Is it it's cash. It's the big money. Mhmm. I mean, does anyone think prosperity is like, will have lots of children and 10 goats, at least enough to feed the children? Is that prosperity? Or people are like, I I my prosperity to to us is more money than I will ever need. More money than is necessary. That's prosperity. Yeah. I think our society breaks it down to to the more money you have, the more prosperous you've been. So is is the simple problem is that we look at prosperity incorrectly? I mean, when the Lord says that that that, you know, the children's offspring are blessings, you know, we I think we we maybe maybe within the church, we might tend to look at it that way, but there's times that I don't either. You know, that that that I I forget that part. Right? Like, when when people are like, I feel blessed, but, like, I just saw somebody on Facebook today wrote like, hey. I got a new car. Feeling blessed. I'm like,

I okay. I mean, I'm not saying it's not it's not blessed. Yeah. I Yeah. I It's a legitimate feeling. It's I've been agree. Probably not based off of this verse, though. Well, that's that's I guess that's kinda what I'm I don't know. That that that's the merriment. Like like, is our is our heart the same as God's heart? Is our mind the same as God's mind? Are my definitions of his words Are our ways his ways? Is that what you're asking? Well, I but, like, when when he says prosperity, when he says, I have I have plans, I have blessings. You know what I'm saying? Like Mhmm. What we have in mind is not necessarily what he has in mind. Well, you have to look at who who is he talking to? What is the what's going on in their world when this is written? Well They're slaves. They're slaves. Yeah. They're prospered you. That could be you get your own cardboard box now. Yeah. Their culture, their their religion, their entire heritage is being dismantled around them. Yeah. They they were exiled 500 miles from their from their home. And but but in the context of this, Jeremiah is saying there's an end to this. Yeah. Yeah. This will end. Mhmm. And so the question is looking at that even if it's in its true context,

understanding the chat was good to point this out. So we're talking about all scripture breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness. If there is something in here for us, how do we look at this correctly? Well, I think it's a revelation of the heart of God, is that as these people are in such a a state of despair, and they're just kinda asking themselves, alright, God, are you still powerful here? Yeah. Because that was kinda the the dominant debate among religions at the time was, are gods geographically centered or not? And now that we've been pulled out of our particular country and we're in Babylon, should we start embracing these Babylonian gods or not? And

god's kind of reminding him, no. No. No. I I'm still the dominant chief here. I have plans for you to prosper. You don't need to I mean, go ahead and bloom where you're planted. He he said, you know, get involved in society there, but you don't need to, you know, just give up and despair on me. I've got something great. I I'm still your lord. So, it's a message of hope. So so where we where we misuse this then, is it appropriate to say, is is we've pulled it out of the context of sovereignty of God and basically looked at it as a Health and wealth. You're right. A furthering of our own situation that doesn't otherwise further the kingdom. We're we're thinking, hey. I live in the suburbs. God's gonna send me to the big House. You know, I'm I'm getting to the country club now. Yeah. One of these days. Hold on. Dan, how's it? You've not used Big House As soon as I said that, knew I was knew I was in trouble. You're going to the big House. I'm gonna get a big man's Oh man, I'm prospering. So you're starting a prison ministry. I didn't say it was legal.

Okay. So so so and and maybe this is the lens to which we look through through all of these, but but every time you see a promise for someone, within the context of of what the Bible is describing, there's a danger in taking that promise onto yourself. However, all scripture can be used to otherwise reveal the heart of God, the nature, the character of God, and how he behaves. Absolutely. Without otherwise saying,

just because he has plans for these exiles in this particular way, that he must have plans for me in the same way. Right. Yeah. It's a safe way to look at it. Yeah. It's not a humanistic definition of prosper. It's a God oriented definition of prospering. Right. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. So here's here's the next one. Romans eight twenty eight. We know that all king oh, excuse me. All things work together for good to those who love God. How can that be used incorrectly, or have you seen it used incorrectly? Can you read that again for me? Romans eight twenty eight. We know that all things work together for good to those who love God. I've seen people use that verse in response to, a tragedy,

whether whether caused by them their own volition or not as as a response to it. I don't know if that's it correct. I don't know if I have a problem with that so much. I mean, I think God can be glorified. There can be good that comes,

even in in tragedy. I think, generally, I I think where it starts to scratch the chalkboard a little bit is is when folks will do things apart from God and then

say the Lord will vindicate this thing because and then continue to to to be, you know, out of his ways so he can vindicate. It's it's almost it's almost, you know, shall we shall shall sin increase? By no means. You know I'm saying? Like Right. Like they continue to do things outside of his will and then say, the Lord said he'll straighten this up. It's not a big deal. Yeah. I can see this as a justification verse. Exactly like what Mike's saying. I can see this as, hey. I did this, but remember, I love God, which means that that all things are gonna are gonna turn out to to be doing some sort of good. So it's okay. But I wonder if people look at it as only good things will happen to me. God works for the good of those who love him. So if something bad's happening, then then, oh, that's you know, then they can get mad at god because only good things should happen to me. But he never really says that. Also also,

you you know, once again, a play on the definition of good. Like, I I like, he knows the greater good. I know my singular good. You know? Yeah. And so So let me ask you this. If someone says, hey. You know, my aunt has cancer. That's alright. Because, God, all things work together for good to those who people don't say that. And so the question is

I mean, it's so that verse is a source of comfort in times like that for certain people. Is it appropriately used in that way? It sounds like just such a callous response. And That's what I just said. It may be true. Yeah. And and long term, yeah, it's true, but it's just ignoring the significance of the moment and the significance of the pain that the person's going through. I think You have to be careful how you say it. Yeah. Hey. Don't worry. Jesus had a Hey. Had a habit of joining people in their suffering. Yeah. Christians do that all the time, though. Yes. They do. That's their kind of thing. It's like their immediate response is, the lord will vindicate this terrible thing. So let's minimize it and make it real low because the Lord is giant and what you're saying is really inconsequential. Right. That's how it generally comes out. So maybe it's not that they're misusing it. They're just doing without God's heart involved. Yeah. I I haven't heard this verse specifically quoted to me, but I heard the the, oh, God is gonna work through all of this so many times without completely removing me from my emotional state of, you know, what I just gone through straight to, oh, don't worry about it. God's going to work through this. It's just like, I really don't care right now. I have no desire to hear what you say about god working through this. That's true. People like to do the close the door, open the window kind of thing with the lord. That's kind of the synopsis of this one right here. That's the synopsis that I It's it's almost to use it as an excuse to not get emotionally involved. Oh, that's true. You know, I'm gonna start using that then. That's a good excuse.

Good call, Harry. Yeah. Mike, every time I come There you go. Blubbering, you're gonna you're gonna throw this at me. You know the lord's gonna work this out. Stop your whining. I feel fat bad for you, but I don't know why I should. It's gonna be good. Yeah. It's gonna be fine. The bible said something. Why do you even feel bad, buddy? And I suppose I suppose the the good example here is is we're called to help, you know, to clothe the naked and feed the poor. Mhmm. We're not necessarily called to go up to the naked and say, hey, buddy. Don't worry about it. All things will work to the for the good. You know? Haven't you heard what Jesus said about the flowers of the field? Why are you worried about it? The tunics are coming. You, Vipatia. It is you who is outside the Lord, not me. So following up with the discussion that's that's kind of been going on in the chat back to, back to the first one that we talked about. The question then is is if if none of the Bible was written specifically to us, right, none of this is a dear Ben, dear dear Dave, Mike, Buva, Dan, like, is there

Can we dismiss it all? Well, no, no, no. Quick question is like, is there a Jeez, Herrick. I'm just wondering. Throw it all out. I think the think I don't think that's the question. I think what the what the question is getting at is basically, does God have something specific for me? Is it are we presented with a God that has a general revelation for all of us to kind of fall in line with from a kingdom perspective? Or, like, when people are often searching scripture and saying, what does God have for me? Is there specific is there something that is unique to you that God is speaking to you through the scripture on, or are we looking for the wrong thing?

I'm hard I I don't okay. So I I don't really have an answer to that question, but I I wanna ask, well, then what what's the what would be the point of us having the the holy spirit with us to help to for us to have understanding the bible specifically for us living in us us being a temple for it to reside in and and causing interpretation specifically to us and for us. If it's not meant to be interpreted for things that we can do specifically what would be the point of that? That's the question on the table continue to discuss. I think that there are principles. It's just like an accusation to me, but this is a radio blubber. Ben, what are you specifically telling me that They're the principles that we live with and that like, so when bad things come in my life, there is always the first thing in my mind is, okay. I know God's gonna do something good through this. I just know he will. So am I still distraught? Yes. Is it is it a bad situation? Yes.

But I know I'm gonna get through it. I know that that that God will help me through this. He'll be the anchor. He'll be the the strength. But I can't necessarily be say because, well, he's gonna prosper me. You know? I mean, hasn't said that to me, but but he's gonna be watching over me. There's enough other scripture that says that in a generic kind of way. He's gonna watch out for us. And and I think I think that's the principles that we take. Well, so so I think the the question, though, is is, like, is it is it fair to look at the scripture and say, does god have for me, or is the broad answer always, what does god have for us? Yes. Yes. I think it is fair to say that because, like like, the entire bible is put together as a

as a description of god. Right? Like, even on the on the and his character. Right? And, like, even on a base level, it's to see if you're even interested in being in a relationship with him. Right? Like, if if he lays out principles of how of how he reacted or how he instituted or how he set ways to live. Right? Like, I mean, the 10 commandments are solid because that's the way god acts. Right? And and and so, like, when we respond, he's basically revealing his character in his world and his ways through his entire bible. So even without one personal instruction to me, basically, I'm seeing if I'm even if I'm even interested in being part of his kingdom. Right? Like, if there's parts in there that I'm not interested in, I'm bailing anyway. And so, like, even without one one instruction specifically at me, this is the god that I'm planning to deal with for the rest of eternity.

You know, am I interested in being his kingdom or not? You know? And and so and I think you were talking about a little bit about this last week is is, like, the Bible reading is not so much as a a a have to do as more of a I'm interested to get to know this god that I'm planning on spending eternity with. You know? And so, like, I don't know, generally, I would say even without direct instruction, know, you're more looking to see what this kingdom's gonna be like that you're proposing to be part of based on the way that he acts and the way that his people interact with him. What do you mean by specifically for for you? Do you mean, like, it's literally for you and no one else? Everyone else just gets a I think there's a couple of things that that that maybe we struggle with. One is the thought that is that God deals with us individually, like on an individual level, and and kind kind of the I knit you in your mother's womb. I have a specific plan

for you. Mhmm. And secondly, you know, should the expectation be that I'd be able to read scripture and otherwise hear from God that something that is personally applicable to my life versus this God saying the same thing to everybody? Like, is there is it is it a false to come away from scripture reading and find something that is specific to my life when otherwise it is it should be a same similar buffet that is presented to all? So I think those two things, I think, are are what are in play here. Well, I'm I'm thinking about just the the way in which Christ came to earth and he suffered, and he went through all the same sorts of trials and temptations that we've gone through, means that there's certain universality to what we're struggling with.

Otherwise, Christ really couldn't be, head priest, for all of us. If I was going through a struggle that was unique to me that Christ had no part of, then that would be a very weird relationship. But I don't think that that scenario exists.

If that's the case, a lot of it is pretty general. It tends to target communities. I mean, there'll be very specific events and specific struggles that people go through that you might be going through right now as well. But you're not the only person on the planet that is going through whatever it is that you're going through. Right. There are others.

So so so, I mean, is it is there a value? Well, I'm try I guess I'm trying to represent the thought. So so is it that back to what Bubba was talking about. Is it under the guidance of the Holy Spirit that that that things jump out? I mean, that that that you see or or drawn to to certain, you know, answers to your questions or or guidance in your life that that seems to be dealing with a specific situation for you. Is that, is that is that a holy spirit revelation of scripture type thing? Is that the right way to be thinking about it? I think it is. Because if we all had our druthers, everybody would be Joseph of Arimathea.

You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'll provide the money with very little input. You know what I'm saying? Like, no one would choose to be the the the the guy, you know Stephen the first martyr. No one would be Stephen. Everybody would be Arimathea man. You know what I'm saying? Providing cash to do nothing. And so, like and, like, I I think it's the hands and feet thing. I think it's I I think it's the description of the church. And and, like, you know, God has has, you know, different areas of ministry that he calls us to, and he pops that into your heart and has designed you, maybe, to to do do such a thing. Well, and then there's things in scripture that that are they they are specifically for believers. You know, you read the first chapter of Ephesians. I don't know if you remember. We went through that, I don't know, a year ago, whatever, on church. And and I kept using these slogans or phrases over and over again week after week, probably enough to annoy people, but it was then grain it in the head that that we are forgiven. You know? We are pure. We are holy. We we god has done these things. It and that that's that's to us. That is to us specifically

or anyone who becomes a follower of Jesus Christ. So so we do follow under that fall under that umbrella. So, I mean, you could say, yes, Mike Foost, you you are blameless right now before God because of what Jesus did on the cross. I mean, that that's a pretty big deal. That is a big deal. Woah, bro. Yeah. Nice. So you can internalize that one. You you you can, you know, claim for for a lack of a better word that verse and say, yes. But you have to be careful. Be careful with that claim. I know. I know. Woah. I said it carefully. But you have to be careful. Claim the big house. I'm just taking these random, you know, promises that sound really cool. You know, God's gonna prosper me. You know? Well, what was he saying to? He wasn't talking to all Christ followers. He was talking to a group of slaves in Babylon. It does imply that he will prosper some people. Yeah. He could. His care his nature is that he would. Yeah. Yeah. Is it is it wrong to ask for that? No. No. If that's not your focus in life, I I mean yeah. Yeah. The I mean, the the question I I suppose ultimately is what are you, you know, what is it pointing towards? Are you start are you trying to ask God to grow your kingdom, or are trying to ask him to use you to grow his? Yeah. Third one,

ask and it will be given to you. Luke eleven nine. It's time for the big house. Luke eleven nine, ask and it will be given to you. Say same problem? He says it. He does say it.

Also, Matthew What's what's what's the what's the right use of it? Try not to add stuff that's not in scripture. Go ahead. He says specifically, ask, and it shall be given to you. It's not looking good, man. No? Nobody? What what's in the verse around it?

Verse nine? So it's Luke. It's Luke. I'm thinking more content, not so much. No. I'm that's why I'm asking what verse is Dan, you're a bible preacher for ages. 10 and verse 12. Right around verse 11. I'm asking which point what is our focus verse? Which great scholar, Dan Hudson. Okay. So the Baseball. It's seven eight nine. The the verse is Luke eleven nine. Okay. Not yet. I guess not. And I tell you, ask and it will be given to you, seek, and you will find. So the immediate the Lord's prayer was just prior to that. Yeah. And he said to them, which of you as a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, friend, lend me three loaves for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him. And he will answer from him within, do not bother me. The door is now shut. My children are with me in bed. I cannot get up and give you anything.

I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his impudence, he will rise and give him whatever he needs. And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, it and will be open to you. For everyone who asks, receives. The one who seeks, finds. And to the one who knocks, it will be opened. What kind of dad gives you a snake? K. There's your context. Well and and the context here is is asking things within the will of God and within your needs. You know, it's not saying ask for a a

a sailboat, and he has to give it to you. It it's is that part of your daily bread? Well, I guess if you're a fisherman, maybe, but, you know, it's not for me. It'd it'd be an extra for me. To to I mean, that that whole God has to do it because he said so right here asking to be given to you. I I think the context starts with just verse two where Jesus says he he says to you when you pray, start off with this. Father. Kids don't hesitate to, in what they ask for. They just come right up, and they will tell you exactly what they want. Yeah. And and somehow we we get this idea that maybe we shouldn't ask because, you know, God's not giving it to me. That does not stop my daughter one bit. I mean, I I will have to tell her no multiple times before she'll finally then go to mom and ask for it. Yeah. So if there's something that she wants, she will just not hesitate to ask. She has a a child parent relationship with us. And Jesus is you know, he's telling us to adopt that same thing. Don't don't be so hesitant. Don't stand off from God and pretend that he's just hanging out up in heaven and we're down here on earth,

minding our own affairs and he keeps to his business and and that there's such a separation and whatnot. He wants to be involved in our lives. So so ask. He might say no, but he might also give it to you. Now Jesus said, ask and it will be given to you. Maybe a father doesn't a loving father does not give a child everything they ask for. And so maybe that's something that his audience simply understood, and and they get once he just introduced the fact that it's father.

And they're like, oh. Okay. He is. Yeah. Well, obviously, he's not gonna give a snake. You know? Well, and I I think if you look a a couple things from a context perspective that I look in here is is that, you know, it it is it does have a kingdom perspective. Right? Your kingdom come. Your will be done on on earth. And then if you look at the end, the the the closing verse of this little section in in verse 13, it says, if you then who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly father give the holy spirit to those who ask him? Like, look at his that's his gift. Right? That's the final gift that all of this is pointing to. Yeah. And I I think sometimes we use it's it's correct to think of it the context where are you asking for something that furthers the kingdom? But I think all that may not be ultimately the point of what he's getting. He's pointing to of all the things that you ask, I'm giving you the holy spirit that basically covers those things. I think that's awesome. Lord, I I need a bigger place. Holy Spirit says what? Holy Spirit, you say?

No problem. Got it. Lord, I need to I wanna have more children. Holy Spirit, coming your way. Next. The right word is tabernacle. You'll be living on the street.

Here we go. Philippians four thirteen. I can do all things through him who strengthens me. I can do all things through him who strengthens me. We actually talked about this relatively recently because it was the number one verse, if I remember correctly, from the users of the YouVersion Bible.

The the things that they read most often, the number accessed verse was I can do Philippians four thirteen. I can do all things through him who strengthens me. What's the right how can we use this wrong? Well, you can certainly do try to do all things. I I I I think you could See if you could lift up, Muvah. You can do all things. Through God through Christ who strengthens If you do not, either Jesus is not capable or you have no faith. I feel like the Holy Spirit's not with me on this.

I think I think Jews can correctly be one of Like, I'm gonna take a hard test while I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I'm struggling with my medallion. No. I can do all things. You know, that that's kind of a different thing. Yeah. I think we emphasize the first half of it, and we just sort of give lip service to the second half of it. I think when we do that, we we've misunderstood the verse. I think it really is one where the second half is the dominant part of it. That's the, it's through Christ who gives us strength. Through his strength, anything's attainable. Anything's possible. But, you know, we we'll often just run headlong into a challenge and then figure, well, he'll he'll cover me, you know, after I've committed to this. It's like,

did he send you on it? Is is that what was going on? Did he empower you, strengthen you to go off and begin flying or whatever it is that you're deciding to do? Yeah. That's such a crazy thing. Well and, again, what what is it ultimately pointing to? Like, in context, Philippians four, Paul is I'll I'll read you kind of the surrounding verses. I rejoice to the Lord greatly now that now at length, have revived your concern for me. You were indeed concerned for me, but you had no opportunity. Not that I am speaking of being in need, for I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound. In any and every circumstance, I have learned the secret of facing plenty and hunger, abundance, and need. I can do all things through him who strengthens me. It more it more sounds to me like Paul is saying, I can I am able to endure all things, or I am able to be in any circumstance based upon

the provision of the strength of Christ? Like, I can avoid temptation even when my means abound, and I can sustain, I will be sustained even when my means are diminished because Christ gives me strength in all circumstances as opposed to

here's what I wanna do, Lord. Bless it. Give me strength so that I may accomplish thing ultimately coming back to what we're talking about where it is is is the strength that I'm asking for Christ to further my kingdom or ultimately defer him. Yeah. It really changes the flavor there. Yeah. Right. He's talking about persevering through circumstance to further the Lord's work through that. Yeah. He's not talking about I can I can go fly? Yeah. I can go do this. I will finish this marathon. Right. Christ who strengthens me. Exactly. I bet I can eat another cheeseburger for all things. No. That's ridiculous. He's talking about persevering through circumstance so that he can further the Lord's kingdom. Here's where where where I think there is something there's there's an intimacy about that relationship with God when you're like let's say you're running a marathon. Right? You're you're getting towards the end, and you're like, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Going like, having that running through your mind and having that connection with God in that moment, I don't wanna I don't wanna make it sound like I think that's a bad thing. I just if you're expecting, like, calling on the strength of Christ to get you to the end of the mile, I'm I'm not sure that's the context in which Paul used it. Right. And and ultimately, you know, I don't know. You could be finishing the marathon to for Christ. I don't know. He doesn't he doesn't care if you finish the marathon. He wants you to finish the race. The big race. Capital r to the big house. Mhmm. Hey, man. You keep saying the big house. We all think jail. Oh. So so let's,

when people would actually use this verse, here's an example. Another Chad example was, let's say your spouse dies. Mhmm. Someone says like, is this an appropriate use of that of this verse to say, you know, Christ will will help you endure or will will strengthen you through this? You can do all things. You can get through this through Christ who strengthens Is that an appropriate use of it? I'm in. I think the principle applies, but I but I would get it more from other verses. I wouldn't get it from this one.

This sounds more like Paul having been sent out by Jesus to accomplish things, has come across resistance, has been everything short of torn apart, and he has endured it. And Christ has given him the strength to endure anything the world can throw at him. And that's very different than tragedy has entered my life.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that, I think that all of us are in agreement that that God can work you through something. God will work you through the situations that you're involved in and will be with you. But I think the context here is not, I can persevere through this through the death of a spouse or, you know, I can persevere through the trials that I'm going through right now. Yes. That may be true. Yes. God can help you through that, but that's not the the context of this verse. Is it a is it a is it a hill to die? And is this a perversion of the gospel for somebody to use that for comfort? No. I don't think so. No.

That's enough to throw them out of my house. I tell you that. False prophet. Hey, man. We talked about you not being able to lift me. Oh, no. Type don't of theological convictions, but, like, I've heard I I yeah. This is sad. Right? But, like, are times when the Lord's word is not inspiring to me because Jesus' people use it in such a way that it's callous and and and with no heart in it. And that would be an absolute another one. If something befell my house and you walked over to my place and whooped that out, I would be silently showing you the door. I would just not be interested in what you have to say right there. And, like, I I know people believe that they're being helpful, but, like, I don't know. There's something about that just walking up to a to a, you know, Job's friend style before they open them stupid mouths and just sit there for a week hanging out with a guy. That's how you grieve with people. You know what I'm saying? I feel like you keep your mouth shut for a while. Yeah.

So a comment from the chat was I can do all things if he gives me strength. If he does not give me strength, I cannot do it on my own. He will give strength to glorify himself. Mhmm. And I guess I I don't I guess my I do plenty of things on my own. Mhmm. I mean, don't I? Don't I do there are things that like, I do lots of things on my own. He hasn't killed you, so you're on his time. Agreed.

I I guess I I I just again, in context, I wonder if, like, I accomplish I don't wanna accomplish the right things. I don't necessarily accomplish the things that further his kingdom. Right? But, like, I'm fully capable of doing plenty of things on my own without his power. It's just not very good. They don't tend to be good things. Mhmm. I don't know. I don't know. I and and I I'm not sure there's a huge like, aside from the fact that that we are trying, again, trying to build our own kingdom with it, not using them in context, there's not a huge risk, I guess Mhmm. Because they do provide comfort. But

I guess I I I show it to the extent that if if we do not approach the Bible with the thought to to to kinda try to get things in the way in which they were discussed, like, that's where things start to go askew. Right? That's what that's where we get theology that gets awry is is and there may be some verses that are innocuous or happen to otherwise explain God's character in one way because of how we use it. Mhmm. But that's where you start seeing variance. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. Alright. I think there's hold on. How many did I go through? Four. Okay. Last one. Matthew twenty six eleven. You will always have the poor among you.

There's always gonna be poor people, so why fight it? This tends to be the What? Yeah. I me if I'm wrong. This is in the context of woman comes in, anoints Jesus with perfume. Judas gets all upset. The other disciples are like, hey. That was a large amount of money. You could have sold that and fed pork. Yeah. Okay. They're basically saying that the worship of Jesus is something that's, you know, insignificant

compared to feeding the poor? I mean, feeding the poor is an important thing too, but they've essentially trivialized Jesus by saying that. Yeah. Okay. Just wanted to make sure that Yeah. No. That's the context. You mean I can't drive through the Barrio, roll down my window, and say, the lord said it would be this way. And then and then speed away. Why are we trying to fight the poor? Jesus said you'll always have them. Yeah. You can do all things. And he's gonna work it out for your good. Yeah. Hang tight, my naked brother. Enjoy the breeze. That's how the holy spirit comes in. You make Derek look good.

Who uses it like that? Yeah. Seriously. Who uses it like that? Never heard anyone say that. It's a justification to not get involved in in holistic ministry. It tends to be yes. Oh, we use so many different other ones besides that one. I just haven't heard of that one. Yeah. I was I have never heard that verse used like that. I'm Usually, I get you know, I can bless people more aptly with this income level and the way that I live. The bigger house I have, the more I can bless them. Yeah. That's that's that's generally the stage I get. Yeah. Yep.

So one of the questions after going that was number five. One of the questions after going through it that the chat has come up with is so, like, would you disagree with most devotionals? There are quite a number of devotionals that that would tend to use these verses in kind of the ways that we may or may not have agreed with. Yeah. I think so. I stop reading them. I often disagree with them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I very rarely find myself reading They're cotton candy. A two two verse devotional that has nine pages of paragraphs of some dude's notes about it afterwards then really dig into half of a verse. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, by the way, you can do all things. Anything with a dot dot dot. Yeah. Exactly. I was gonna say, you see a dot dot dot halfway through a verse or at the beginning, there may be some trouble. Actually, Dan did that three or four times in Sunday's sermon. Just a heads up. What'd I do? A bunch of dots. You dots dot dots? They were big dots.

Well, that makes sense. A lot of stuff out there. Exactly. Make the picture I wanted. For yourself. I I'll tell you. There there's an exception that I have. There's a biblical professor that I had in college, and he's a world class scholar. And after he gets done with the scholarship stuff, then he switches gears a little bit, but it's like in light of what we've just learned, then he suddenly gets just very devotional and very

life changing application. But he's already front loaded just all the scholar research and looked at how this is actually supposed to impact your life. He's done that detailed study and and really got to the nitty gritty. And then his challenges are incredible compared to the fluffy devotional challenges that I see in other sorts of guides. So he gets devotional, but he's already been scholarly ahead of time. So that sounds pretty alright. As long as those are paired that way, that's fine. But I think that it's Hold on. Is this is this available somewhere that we can check it out? Yeah. Actually, kinda is. Where where can we find this thing? Well, I'll I'll have to check with him. Oh. Oh, it's not for everybody. Well, it's You gotta pay. I'm one of the poor. I'll be heroic. See, he gave me the

Says in Matthew. He he gave me the condition I could distribute it to anyone who's actively involved in cross cultural ministry. Oh. Yeah. That's me. Yeah. That's not you. With Buba?

I visited the taco truck last week. He's his own nation. The nation of Buba. I have my own ZIP code. Alright. Yeah. So so broadly Yeah. When we are when we are approaching scripture. Mhmm. Is our would it be fair to say that our our encouragement, our strong encouragement

is to make sure that you are like, scripture is there to to enrich your life, to ultimately tell you more about God, to to reveal his character. In fact, the Bible, if absolutely nothing else is a revelation of his character and understanding who God is Mhmm. And what he what he expects from you, how he reacts to the world. And and and I would seek his character first

before I necessarily seek something to to apply to my own life or try to own something as if it belongs to me. It belongs to God. It's a revelation of his character. Yeah. That there that's not to say there is not revelation specific to your life. But but, I mean, you have the same copy as everyone else. Mhmm. And so, yes, he is talking. He saved us, not just you specifically. Those those the letters that Paul was writing were to a full church of people through gathering of folk, not a guy. Mhmm. And I suppose Timothy maybe. Well. Well.

So so though though, like, it's it's okay if that's what what you're getting from scripture is is simply a revelation of God's character that then applies to your life broadly as you understand God. And you can't necessarily take a circumstance in which God has spoken and say that God will always act that way in your life. Most certainly not for the furtherance of your specific kingdom, but more for his. And and so we should be reverent as I suppose as we as we approach scripture. It is it can still be an intimate conversation with God,

but don't walk into it trying to tell him what to be. And sometimes we're open and we're willing we want to solve a specific problem, and we're looking for scripture to do that, and we can easily misapply something that otherwise wasn't designed to do that. And it doesn't hurt to take those scriptures and and use that as a source of of, a prayer. God, as you prospered Israel, and they went through a bad time, I'm going through a bad time,

would you find it in your heart to prosper me too? I mean, that's not a bad prayer. Mhmm. But but taking that verse and saying, I know it's around the corner because of that verse is an is an incorrect reading Right. Of these scriptures. So just be careful is also Yeah. Just be careful. And who is he speaking to? How do I relate to that group? And think of and think of the depth, like, the the depth of that that Paul verse that we were talking about in Philippians. I mean, I actually think there's it's a lot more rich understanding where Paul is coming from and surrounding verses than just Christ will strengthen me. You know what I'm saying? Like, understanding the context of when he's talking about enduring

the highs and lows, I I think it's a much more richer testimony with the context than it is just pulling out and and using as a motivational poster. Yeah. Yeah. So. Okay. Alright. You're listening to you're listening to live from the path. What is the scripture seems kinda depressing and much less personal.

That probably was frankly, I suppose that was just that's a bar that we've, as a culture, have inappropriately set. That made it seem like scripture was designed for us, that God had a had a specific plan for your life of which like a destiny to fulfill that was not shared with other people. It's an individualistic thought that probably is very prevalent from a Western perspective, but isn't necessarily what God was after. Well, like that Jeremiah text, he he he was preserving

the kingdom because the Christ, the Messiah was gonna come out of that. You know? I don't I don't he's already come. He he doesn't need me to preserve, you know, my heritage because of that. So it's a different setting altogether. Yeah. You know? It's it's it's it's just very different. Mhmm. But yeah. I mean, I the question from the chat was, do you not agree that all the bible is the inspired word of God? So wouldn't it always be applied to today to right now? I would say no. Wait. No, I'm sorry. It is, in fact, the inspired word of God, but that doesn't mean that it's universally applicable

to everyone in every place in equal measure at all times. There are certainly verses in Chronicles that I have no idea what they are, and they're not going to impact my life the way that Galatians, Ephesians, and John three sixteen are going to impact my life. Correct. And I think in what way they apply is is the big question today. For example, looking at the, at the Mosaic Law Mhmm. Those things have a character reveal for me. I can understand the heart of God through them even though I'm not to I don't have to adhere to them specifically. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You can engage your mind. It's like the easiest example is you got Adam and Eve in the garden. They were naked. They felt no shame. Therefore, we should all get to walk around naked anywhere we go and feel no shame. Yeah. No. That's you gotta engage your mind. That was before sin. That was before you know, it's a different time.

Well, you look at every scripture and and say, was that time? What was going on? Yeah. How do I apply? Now I walk around my house and feel no shame. Dan, there's no situation in which you should take that as literally and that you should be walking around naked. Absolutely. Were adovies and no windows and everybody was happy. I read it in the Bible. Yeah. You read it wrong. Yeah. I I would say so in in response to some from the chat, kinda sounds like you were suggesting that this book is a dated book. I mean, it it wasn't written yesterday. That's that's the simple truth of it. But to say that, I I don't think that could should be construed at all with what we're talking about to say that the Bible does not apply to our lives today. The question is in what way? What are we to take from it? Well, I'd first approach it with a little bit of humility in in the fact that we're actually eavesdropping on a conversation between God and what happened in history.

It doesn't mean that, the lessons ended when the book was written. It just means that the way in which we should approach it needs to be with the humility of it wasn't addressed directly to me. So I need to actually put my thinking cap on a little bit and look at, Okay, How does this maybe apply to them a little bit differently than it might apply to me? Yeah. Yeah. And a cultural perspective of understanding even the even the the ministry and life of Christ, it's different when you understand the culture that he was in versus if you tried to make it sound like that was the culture that we were Right. Yeah. So so yeah. No. No. Like, it is it is certainly applicable.

If not broadly, every everything is is a revelation of God's character. The question is is is a situation can you always take a situation that happened in the Bible and translate that to a situation that you're dealing with? I think the answer is no. I think that's that's not an appropriate reading in context for some of that stuff. And so that that doesn't imply that it's not an it's it's a dated book that doesn't apply today. The question is in what way does it apply today based upon the circumstance in which it was originally communicated? Yeah. One of the classic examples is Paul over and over will say things like, you know, greet one another with a a kiss of love or with a holy kiss. And, you know, when I was a teenager, I thought that was the greatest verse in the world. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm kind of a geeky guy, and getting girls is Right. This was really gonna change things for the Herrick man. Well, hey. I thought it would be a great angle. And in, you know, in in camp, it was great. But, you know, other than that, it didn't work out so well. Worse at camp. Just get godly together. My wife heard some lady at the Goodwill the other day threaten her children with the five finger ministry if they didn't straighten up. Only to turn around and find her shaking the fist. And I thought, yes. Five finger ministry. I can't wait till my kids are old enough to threaten.

That's rough, man. Yeah. They were being balmy. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Here's the deal. We don't I'm I'm not gonna have time to get into something else before we have to hit the break. So to to address the final question from the chat, do you believe that excuse me. Do you think that God knit us together, knew us before we were born in our mother's wombs? Everybody. Yes. Yes. I tried to answer that on the chat, and it didn't go through. But No. No. No. It showed up. Oh, did it? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You answered that. Oh, okay. Good.

And I think that's driving to so I I'm gonna be the sole no, but half a no. Mhmm. God certainly knew you in your mother's womb. Do I think that he necessarily knit you for a specific purpose? You didn't say that part. Well, I think that's the context of which it's coming from. Maybe now the in the idea of you will be the next king of Israel, I am putting putting you together for this purpose, but

he has a purpose for us, I'd say. I think he has a purpose. It's the general. I have he has a general person, which I think is the question. Is this Yeah. I feel like he's like milkman. You know? Yeah. Where where he otherwise may have had a purpose for David. Is that how things progress? Right? He runs out of milkman stickers and he goes, we gotta some commercial calories here. So people to get the the milk I'm out of milkman stickers. Someone needs a big agricultural farm. Break out the knitting needles. That's right. I'm running out of mechanics. We need people to be whatever flying saucer do. But people liar us. We have different talents. Some people are artistic. Some people are analytical. Some people are big picture people. And you put all those together, and I think that's Do you think he gave you those specifically, or he just asked that you use those specific talents for his kingdom? Well, we're wired with certain strengths more than others, I think. Right. But do you think that is God giving to you or just happens to be who you are, and he asked that you use it for his kingdom?

Oh, I think it's I think he designed it that way. I I could be wrong. I don't but I think that goes to that knitting thing. I think it's yeah. I don't know. If you read James, it says he will give wisdom to those who ask because there's people who are flat out not asking. That was a passive aggressive way to use scripture. You should make up little cards. You need to you need to This is life inthepathon lifeinthepath.org. Wrapping

up the KTIA broadcast, Ben. Yeah. We sure are. Here here's the deal. You can catch us during the week if you go to lifeinthepath.org. You can sign up for the podcast. And here's the deal. If you wanna hear what goes on for the rest of the show and you're listening to KTA this week, you're gonna have to hit the podcast. There's probably good another twenty minutes of the show gonna happen, where we we turn the lights on and bring the chickens out and stuff really starts happening. Yeah. Mhmm. After the KTI broadcast We knit a show together in the womb. It's ready for birth. That's true. If our broadcast was a womb, we would be knitting a show together in it. This is a really hot room. Hey. I I but but before we let go of this this particular topic, I do I wanna thank you, Chad, for for asking some questions and helping along. I think this is something where we as a culture very much struggle with reading the Bible in the appropriate context and understanding the heart of God correctly there.

And I and and the the biggest problem with that, and if you look at the verses that we're kinda talking about walking into this, it always almost always has to do with how do we look at God and his relationship to our life. Mhmm. And oftentimes, are we trying to build something for us on a temporary earth as opposed to building money. It's a money thing. Well, I'd marketing department's like, hey. We gotta make a poster. Find a verse. No. That well, the it's it's our we're we're a snippet culture. A a devotional, a Twitter. You know, like, that's we try to digest. Yeah. Exactly. But this goes prior to Twitter and all that stuff. This is Well, devotionals are like that even though. Exactly. Yeah. It's it's just give it to me, and it's not that you can't read the god's word in little chunks, but the but the problem is you need to understand it in broader strokes so that their little chunks fit in a perspective that God was otherwise and I I think it's actually taken something away from God to treat it as if it's all proverbs. Right? As if the whole book is is a is a proverb. Like, they're not all that style literature. Sometimes you have to digest it symbolically like Revelation. Right. And and and if you if you treat it like little bits of wisdom, I think you're missing some of the depth that God has otherwise put in in some of those things. So alright. That's what's going on. If you are listening on ninety nine point three KTID

KTIA, we do have to let you go. Thank you so much for listening this week, and we will catch you next week where I don't know. Mike, nothing. No. Yeah. I don't know. Mike. Hard to say. I thought more of the same. More fun. I I really thought you were gonna have something hanging up in there. Okay. Thanks for listening to live from the past. If you're on KK, we'll see you next week. If you're on the the live broadcast, we'll see you back in, I don't know, roughly twenty seconds. It's not time to go to the bathroom. I guess I'm not sure. Shoot. Well, I can't believe we didn't get to training with Dan. You

you would be so proud of me because we're talking about birthing the show, and then I was and then we're talking about the after stuff. And and I I was so close to talking about this being the afterbirth. We didn't talk about getting the afterbirth. That was just you going on in your head. I'm just saying it. The filter was on. I didn't say it on our on our actual real live broadcast. You guys should be proud of me. I'm really growing as a human being. Every once in a while, I would pay for the audio when Dan's hit. Oh my Don't say placenta. Don't say placenta. Don't say placenta. You promised you wouldn't say placenta. You told your wife. You promised Mike. You said it was gonna happen. Placenta. There you go. It'll just make Ben hungry. The lord did not knit you to say placenta on the air. Talking about placenta. I really hate it when we do apologetics type stuff like you doing. I feel like you cut me off with the legs. I don't have anything to say. Here's the deal. The lord knit me in the womb together to not be in that conversation. I really have I'm like, I don't know. Say something intelligent so I can agree with somebody.

That's the problem. That's you know, here's that's one of the biggest problems when I do bible studies. I I like to listen like three or four different guys. Mhmm. Check out different sermons, read the, you know, different study notes or whatever. And like, it doesn't matter where I go. I agree with them until I read the next guy. I'm like, yeah, that's right, And I'll read another guy. I'm like, yeah, you know what? That other guy was an idiot. I can't believe he came up with that. And then I'll find another dude. I'm like, you know what? This guy knows how to live. This is dead on. So I'm almost trying to decide whether I just listen to one guy and have ignorance as bliss. Know I'm saying? He's right on. Actually, I intentionally try to find the guy that that disagrees the most with the one thing I read to see, like, the who's the guy on the far end that thinks the guy I just read is absolutely ridiculous. I kinda do that too. It's like, who disagrees with me the most? Yeah. Let's go You might have a point. Yeah. Yeah. No. He doesn't. Because here's what here's what I don't want is I don't wanna be getting advice from, the weasel who's the middle ground guy, who's the guy who's trying to make a compromise. Yeah. Because he may not be after truth. He may just be after compromise. That's right. I want the guy who's after truth. Only to find yourself barefoot in a robe three years from now in the middle of the desert sacrificing a Volvo. How did I get here? Alright. Alright. What's trending with Dan?

Trending with Dan. Alright. We have a trip around the world that ends with a sick child. This has been in the news here lately. A one year old girl became seriously ill on a sailboat hundreds of miles off of Mexico, is rescued by the US Coast Guard. We got Eric and Charlotte Kaufman. They took off sailing on an excursion with their two daughters, Cora, aged three, Lyra, age one, and they were gonna, like, sail around the world going this big, big trip. About 900 miles into the trip, their one year old has some really big health problems. Their sailing vessel also had some pretty big issues, they call for help. Rescuers parachute into the ocean,

rescue the family. The one year old's doing fine now. They're headed back to The States on a navy warship. People are beginning to second guess the family's decision to bring their children on the trip. And the parents release a little statement. Hey. This is how we've lived for seven years. Everything's fine. Leave us alone type of thing. Uh-huh. And, here's the question. What do you think of the Kaufman's decision to bring their small children on a personal cruise around the world? A, you only live once. Go for all the gusto you can handle and bring your kids along for the ride.

B, parents' first responsibility is to the safety of their children. Raise your kids first, then sail around the world. Or c, do what you want, but don't ask the taxpayers to bail you out. Sharks need to eat too. Okay. You're up, booba. Oh, man. I'm gonna go b.

Raise your kids first. Raise your kids first. They And then they'll understand. Is their kid's safety. I'm not saying you can't be safe, and I'm not saying there's no way to be safe on a boat. But do you think it might be a more constructive place to raise your kids in on land, in a home

close to medical care, where if your kid gets sick, you can go to the hospital rather than being 300 miles off the coast of a country? Buva has set up a series of prisons that he wants everyone to move in to eliminate all risk in your life just so you're not an inconvenience to others. Nope. Not what I'm saying at all. Thanks. Seen the hunger game? Maybe we just kill each other in an open style arena, and then you would feel safe. Yep. That's what I was going for too. Thank you guys so much for reading into what I was trying to say and really really breaking down what I'm Well, the the premise would be in a in a in a in a place where no one can get hurt. You just said because they're not you, their lifestyle is unsafe.

No. Said because they don't do what you do. I said, would it be safer? Do you disagree that it would be safer to live on a place where you live? That really depends with But is that the general principle for living life? Is whatever the safest thing is, is what we should do? I'd say with kids, yes. Well, then you'd never get in a car. You'd be walking everywhere. You're going to the to the furthest extent is to what I'm saying. Yeah. Still in the village. What? It's not outside the realm. You know what I'm saying? If you're gonna take the tactics, you have to do the safest thing, you'd never leave your house. Bubble boy. There you go. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Go to the extreme. I think all of us should live in bubbles. I like bubbles. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate you you clarifying that for me. That's what I was going for. Well, I'm sorry. Were you willing to submit a shallow answer and just hope no one asked any questions? It was not a shallow answer. What? But you It's to protect the children. Yes. Protect the children there. Put them in his turn. Yeah. No. Put them in a safer environment. Is is living on a boat the safest place to raise a kid? No. Is living on Nobody's living in Chicago. It's 36 Yes. Okay. There risks are there risks everywhere? Yes.

Absolutely. I do not think Is it safer on a boat or Chicago? Which part is Chicago? Okay. So The old Cabrini Green. Are there specific places on land that would be more dangerous than a boat? Probably, Ben. You're absolutely right. If you lived in Compton, yeah, maybe there's a better chance out on a boat. Uh-huh. But are

there safer places to live on land? Do they have to live in Chicago? Those prisons we were talking about. Yes. Alright. Set up the prisons. That's what I'm going for. B. Mike, you're up. Actually, I'm gonna go with B. But for a completely different reason. Mine is pure at at a pure thriftiness.

It's the same reason that I don't take my kid to Disney World yet. They're not old enough to fully appreciate what we're doing. I don't take my one year old anywhere because they're not Not on a trip around the world on a sailboat? Yeah. Remember when we no. No. Don't. Remember when we went around the world? You know, you could've gone when I could see it. You know? I can't what what's your earliest memory? Live out there. They live on a boat? Well, they've been doing it for thirty years. They live for eight years. Oh, yeah. I'd still hold off. Yeah. I'd wait till the kids were older just for experience wise. Dave Herrick? I'm I'm guessing the parents have done this for years. Right? Yeah. So this is the lifestyle that they're most used to. This is kinda home territory for them. I understand. He was a coast guard pilot. Yeah. Or not a pilot, a sailor. Whatever what what do you call that? Captain? Whatever he was. Okay. So, you know, people who say, you know, raise your kids at home, they did. They raised their kids at home, and they had some kind of medical supplies and then a medical need that was beyond what they needed. And they did what anyone else would do on a boat is they radioed in,

got the kids taken care of. You know What's the difference between them and people who are, like, cattle ranchers thirty, forty miles off a civilization, and then something happens, we gotta send a copter in? Mhmm. Yeah. Mean, we've got life flight for a reason. Isn't yeah. Isn't that why we do kinda pay taxes to help take care of each other in those situation emergency situations? Are they just upset because there's a naval warship involved? I think so. It costs a lot of money. I'm sure it does. So are what's We got a big military. Were you in for? What was your answer? What's that? What was your answer then? I think it's a. Yeah. What is it? They only live once. Go for the gust so you can handle. Bring the kids along for the ride.

Well, I wouldn't exactly phrase it like that, but That's hard. When Dan phrases things, he pretty much he pigeonholes you. So you're either gonna be a jerk or agree with him. That's pretty close. You have a problem with that? Yeah. Actually, I think it's b. It's just that, you know, they're fur okay. The parents' first responsibility is the safety of the kids. It's just that's the environment that they knew best. That was them being safest with their kids. Yeah. Was on a boat. That's true. They can't even walk straight on land. Yep. Fall dump the kids right over. Yeah.

I I'm a I'm a. Mhmm. I'm a. That that's their life. That's that's how they wanna live. I don't have any problems with that at all. Alright. I'm giving Dave and Ben a point, especially because you you brought it is their home. That is that's where that's their that's the and I I'm on both sides of it. I'm all over the place, so I couldn't even answer this question. So you just came up with a test question. There was no writing. That's why we care what's trending with Dan. It's trend it's what's trending right now. Alright. I got a I got a point. Hold on. Conversing on. I gotta make a boob, I call him with a zero in it. Alright. Other trending news right now.

Dappy gets a tattoo. A rapper named Dappy. I guess, is that how you say that? I I don't know this guy. He does his reality show. Look around the room. Do we look like guys who know Dappy? The rapping guys. Okay. We're going to call him Dappy just in case I'm wrong. Whatever. He did a small tattoo of a hashtag just below his right eye and then took a selfie, uploaded it to Twitter and he wrote, By the way, the reason I got the hashtag tatted on my face was simply to make sure it stays trending forever. Basically, he wants his face trending forever. Now while Dappy may want his face to be trending forever, he evidently didn't know that Twitter recently announced it's doing away with hashtags in a few months.

Oh, rough. Sorry, buddy. This means that the hash symbol will go back to its former role of designating a number or in the case of Dappy, a numberless tattoo designating nothing.

Well, that's rough. But it looks really nice. Yeah. Alright. Here's the question. Everybody wants to be popular. How do you know if you've gone too far? A, being popular takes a lot of hard work, but it's worth it. You can never go too far. B, how do you know if you've gone too far? When you make a permanent tattoo of something that will be irrelevant within a few months. Or c, nobody really cares if you're popular. If they do, they aren't really your friend. Just be yourself and hang out with the people who like you. Isn't this also known as when have you when do you know that you've jumped the shark?

Isn't that what that phrase is? Like, when happy days jump the shark? Yeah. When they jump the shark. Fell apart? Yeah. Okay. The it's just reaching too much for it. I don't know. Oh, okay. No. He doesn't. I only know his trending stuff. I don't know happy days. Yeah. Alright. Alright. Alright. Sit on it. Sit on it, putsy. Google that sometime. Jump the shark. Yeah.

Bufu, you're up. See, no explanation. The chat disagreed with you on the last one. I've recorded a negative one. I don't do the points, though, so it's hypothetical. Alright. The question was, how do you know if you've gone too far? Yeah. Yeah. The b is the answer. What was c what was the c option? He basically he he asked the question, and then he asked another

question in his c answer. So I liked it. The c was nobody really cares if you're popular, if if they That's not an answer to the question you asked. They're not really your friend.

That sounds like for the boxcar children. I go I'm in with b. Yeah. Hashtag face. Yeah. That's too far. Face tag. I know it when I see it. Hash face. You, sir, have gone too far. Why do you have an empty number sign on your face? Wait. Are are they really getting rid of the hashtag? Yeah. That's like their staple. They're they're gonna kinda back up in the background. Dude, we're gonna do something else. They have some other thing they've come up with. I don't know. It's gonna they're gonna jump the shark.

Hey, from so Dave. This is important stuff. I'm sorry, Dave. Facebook still has hashtags and so does Instagram. So Well, you know, definitely a face tattoo is a good sign that you've reached too far. But I think there's a lot of things that you can do to reach too far. So I wouldn't use b as my barometer. A was what? Being popular takes hard work. But is it but it is Totally worth it? That's worth it. It's not. It's not worth it. It's definitely not a. Is that a jaded response from an unpopular man, Harry? Yeah. I'm definitely a nonpopular man, and I don't why. Bible verses to kiss ladies at camp, Harry. Where's this coming from? Success. Very popular.

I'd go and see My life from the bottom of the barrel by Dave Herrick. Yep. Popular is not important because I didn't do it. That's why. I set the bar. Getting ladies paw style. Can endure you, baby.

That's terrible. I hope you reviewed it, Grace. Oh, no. Oh, man. Alright. Go ahead. I'm I'm going give Dave four points because that was really the good answer right there. No. Who cares? Who cares? I'll be But you let him opt out of your questions. Every time we opt out, you find us. Give a c. Give us a c. Get impatient. Every time we try to opt out of your answer, you gave that. You gave Dave four points for not using any of your answers. He's more popular. You're trying to be popular with Dave by bending the rules. Here's the deal. I said, see, I'm piggybacking on that four points. You better give me You make me sick, Dan. Yep. Dave won for Moolah. Your judging sister is capricious at best. Go. Hashtag jerk. Here's the last one. New York New York's fire and police departments fight during charity hockey match.

An annual charity hockey game between the police and the firefighters in New York erupted into a mass brawl. Players of both sides cleared the bench, started swinging fists causing a twenty five minute delay as players were penalized and equipment was picked up off the ice. The only two people not involved in the fight were the two goalies. Interesting. One New Yorker proclaimed, it's ridiculous. This is a charity game. They're supposed to be playing for charity. These guys, instead of playing for charity, are enjoying themselves enjoying themselves. They're gonna get into a brawl on the ice. This is ridiculous. It's sad. It's embarrassing. By the way, the police department won eight to five. Here's the question. Is New York Slugfest embarrassing,

or is it expected? Right. A, what is I can't remember what writing here. That doesn't make sense.

Thrilling radio. Yeah. It's hockey. What no. What is hockey? Oh, yeah. Is? Okay. Our what is hockey? There he is. What is hockey? Wire, fire, and policemen are playing it. Sorry. I really destroyed that. Okay. Wow. I get paid the big bucks for that too. Yeah. B It's all in the delivery, Dan. It is. Obviously, I don't have that. B, it is ridiculous. These guys are role models. Should never let this happen in a public setting. And c, it's hockey. People fight in hockey. C. I'm in with c.

I'm sure it makes it more enjoyable. I bet they rose got more money. I've been a I've been fan for a long time. Everybody loves watching the fights. Like, that's that's the best part. I've heard people say that I went to the hockey game for the fight. Mike, I I just I got nothing for you right now, man. I just I legitimately have nothing for you right now. I'm just saying you you strike me as a hockey fan. Absolutely. Every time I've ever talked to you, it's always been hockey, hockey, hockey. I'm also in with c. I'm

gonna go c with a modification. It's hockey and it's New York. People get into a fight. That's what happens. Yeah. You ever been to Herrick's hockey reunion? Trouble. Check the reason I'm missing three teeth. You all get minus five points. Come on, guys. Proverbs 20 says it's an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife, but every fool will be quarreling, and it's all about fighting and stuff. They they can avoid it. They can you can keep control of it. It's not strife. It's fun hockey. Yeah. It's hockey. They were like hockey. Twenty five minutes. There was nothing fun, but they were after each other. I'm sorry. Did anybody die?

I'm it did not okay then. Was the score of eight to five? Like, eight dudes died on one part and five dudes died again. Boxing match and going proverb, boys. Proverbs. Tone it down. Let's pet each other on the head. Turn the other cheek. Dan, that was the worst misused scripture I've ever heard. Yeah.

Why don't you wear a hat or a pat to your neighbor's house instead? Try not to walk by the poor. They're always gonna be there. That's trending with Dan. Trending with some dude saying I can do all things with with god who strengthens me, then some dude just cracking another dude across the face. Yeah. Obviously, you can't duck. Wham.

They're alive from the path. Uh-oh. This one's kinda rough. I'm 15. Yesterday, they told our class that one of my friend's parents had died suddenly. Oh, man. Every single person in our grade cried except for me. I felt bad about not crying for my friend's loss, but I just didn't. Another friend told me that last night people were texting, and it had been mentioned several times that I was not crying and that it looked like I didn't care, even though I do. I feel bad about not crying, but I don't want to lie and say that I did. Please help me. You're fine. Yeah. Not everybody cries. Do you Yeah. Apparently, everybody but, you know, this this rock. You have a you have a class of 15 year olds that are dramatic and and cry. You don't have to cry. Uh-huh. Yeah. Ridiculous. You're surrounded by a bunch of ne'er do well gossips who have nothing better to do at the death of a parent than to gossip with each other over text as to who was not upset enough. You know, this is where it starts. At fifteen fourteen, fifteen, this is where you start playing the part of your future self. You know what I'm saying? Where you this person that knows how to that they're they're they're still currently being them. Right? Because every time

a situation comes up, you decide, really, I feel I can feel either way about this. Mhmm. Right? I'm not sad. I can understand how you could be sad, but I'm not personally stricken. I've not met the man. Right. But, you know, maybe you'll feel better and maybe think more of me if I squirt a tear out or, like, bury my face in your shoulder and act like we're having a moment. Right? This girl is just not old enough to pull that pony show off yet. Everyone else is trying to make friends and play the version of themselves that they wanna be. This gal's like, look. Don't know that fella. Like, I'm sorry for your loss, but I've you know, what do you want me to do? You know? Crank one out? Hit myself in the face with a mustard bottle, try to get some tears going? I can't help you. I feel Yeah. She doesn't need to feel bad. I like your honesty. Yeah. It's who she is. Secular's advice says, if you feel that any explanation is called for, simply say that when you heard the news, you were so stunned that you couldn't cry. Yeah. Lie about it. Yeah. Make up a lie. Absolutely. How about send a card, maybe some flowers? Your reaction is very common. When bad news is conveyed, some people are just struck numb or they don't give a crap. Believe me, not everyone who can cry on command is necessarily grieving.

Oh. You got time for one more here? Yeah. My boyfriend, Chico, and I have been going to we've been going together for six years. Does that mean they're dating? He picked me up in his LA. Okay. I'm gonna have to ask him again then. We went down to the soda shop.

Do an ether product. Took me to the sock hop. We have we have discussed marriage, but for the past months, he has become distant and is not as loving as he once was. Chico is the dependent type who often needs to be reminded by his parents or me about things he needs to do. Oh, yeah. He's with Winner. He's murdered with two already. Yeah. Ditch him. Yeah. When I asked Chico what was going on, he said he is confused. Hey. What's up? He's confused about whether I dump you or not. I've been stuck in the car for days. No one's told me how to get out of Seriously. My mom raised me on a ship for seven years. I

can't keep myself up. I was sick and thought I'd be sick. I'm be in a prison. There's more Chico than meets the eye. Okay. He said he didn't want to break up. Hold on. When I asked Chico what was going on, he said he's confused, and he thinks he realized too much on his parents and me for direction. He said he didn't wanna break up, but he would like some time alone. He assured me there is no one else involved, and he wants to continue talking on the phone to me once in a while. I don't know what to do. Should I believe what he is saying about needing time, or do you think that this is Chico's way of telling me it's over? I'm a tell you something. Chico can't tie his shoes. He didn't come up with plan on his own. This old man's feeding my dance. Hey. I'd like to talk to you on the phone. Here's what

I can't reconcile. I can't think of a free man in the world whose option would be, hey. You're going with a lady, and you decide I wanna spend time with you only over the phone. Right. I could be next to you speaking with you holding hands Yeah. Caressing your hair in the movie theater. Whatever it is that you go about your business doing. K? Or I wanna speak with you on the phone. Does this sound like a legitimate man to you?

Yeah. No. He he yeah. He's looking for other options. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's a joke. I can move on. Yeah. He's he's gonna have a hard time Unless Grimace from McDonald's is available. No one's gonna date Chico. Here we go. Chico's answer from secular is, frankly, I think Chico is trying to break it to you gently that it's over. No. I'm not sure that's gentle as much as cowardly. I'll call you. Yeah.

It says wish him well and let him go. You probably meant well, but the problem with giving someone directions is it prevents that person's own compass from guiding him where he needs to go. Look at it this way. This may be the period of growth for Chico and for you as well. I don't know about that last set. Like but the problem with giving someone directions is they don't get to use their own compass. What if their compass stinks? People are like that. Yeah. Now I wouldn't marry the man. But, like mean, sometimes giving a guy direction who's walking in the wrong way is the prudent thing to do. Yeah. A couple reasons why you shouldn't marry this man, so I'm glad you made the decision. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. I wanna follow my own compass. Here we go. Last one. Dear life from the past. I have been dating someone over the last two years, and our relationship has had a lot of ups and downs. We are in our fifties, and we have both been married before. The problem is he thinks he is always to be right.

He'll never being wrong. This is what I there's there's a man. Now now we're back in. Now we're cooking with masculinity. I was saying I like him already. Yeah. We love each other and spend most of our time together, but every time we have an argument, he calls our relationship off. I'm always the one who calls to patch things up. Should I let this relationship go once and for all? Yes. Parent of the drama. Yeah. Let him go. Yeah. You can either be right or you can be married. You can't be both. Cool. Put that on a devotional.

Actually, I've known a couple fellas recently that, you know, like a problem has arisen and, you know, they said some things that they should not have said to their to their partner, to their to their girlfriend and said, look. I'm a we're gonna break this thing up over this deal.

And I said, you know, I've I've heard some cowardly moves in my day. Mhmm. You know? But you obviously weren't in it for the long haul. This is the one thing that threw you off the rails. You know what I'm saying? Like, as a as a as a general rule, boys, you're not allowed to throw that up. You're just not. Like, either you end it right there and that's it. You're done. You get you get one time to say that. Mhmm. Like, you get one time to say, we're we're we're no longer heading towards the same goals. We're gonna we're gonna break this thing off. You don't say, if this doesn't change, I'm gonna go. I feel like that's a really cowardly threat. Mhmm. And it's just not the way to live. Yeah. Right. Secular says oh, boy. Oh, man. I've really lost it here. Secular says,

you know, should should the question was, should I let this relationship go? Secular says, yeah. I think so. Your gentleman friend has an unhealthy way of dealing with conflict. Not as far as he sees it. It's working out pretty well. Unless your idea of a happy marriage is one in which you are always the peacemaker, I doubt it would last. Agree with that. Yep. Yeah. Sorry. They got some they're pretty straightforward dudes on here today. Mhmm. Why did you say mhmm there? No. I agree. I like them. Oh. Good advice. Okay.

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