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It's good to have you with us tonight. Here's what we got going on the show tonight. First of all, I've been Foust. If we've not met before, I'd shake your hand, but you're Jeremy. That's what I know about you. How are doing? Here's what we got going on the show tonight. We've got a got a lot of stuff packed in. So we we had some stuff planned last week for John Acuff in the studio, and we we yeah. We just didn't get around to it. So here's what we're gonna do. We got some secular versus Solomon. If you the name of the game is this. Can you tell biblical wisdom from worldly wisdom? Right? If you hear a cute quip that someone's got on their desk calendar, can you like, oh, the Lord Jesus said that, or it could be Ben Franklin. And if we don't know the difference, we got a problem. So, secular versus Solomon, I will give you a bit of wisdom. You have to tell me whether it's a biblical bit of wisdom,

Solomon esque, or whether it's a secular bit of wisdom. And if it's secular, I want a country of origin. Where is this type of malfeasance coming from? It's probably the Russians. I'll keep score. Okay. Mike's keeping score. Alright. So we're just secular versus all of score. No. Mike's Mike's definitely keeping score. Mike cheats. That's a point for me for whining. Also, we got some what's happening with Dan. There's stuff going on in the world. Dan, give me a quick preview of what's what's happening. We got some, very stressed out states. We have, you've all heard about Tracy Morgan and his serious accident. Yep. And then a teacher has a relationship with a 15 year old, and his dad takes a baseball bat to him. To the boy? To the teacher. The teacher. Four. Wait. Did we discuss it already? No. No. You can't vote yes yet. Oh, that's a point for me. Okay.

We're gonna get to that on on what's happened with dad. Also, we got a couple rounds of Pope style advice. Preview on the Pope style booing. So the the the deal that I'm going with right now is I'm actually kind of going through another transformation of my own. I'm realizing that I have some things that I want that I don't think I'm ready for. And I realized that this week. Okay. Is it is it new underpants? Because Yeah. I realized that you You force your way in there. Right. Exactly. I realized that there's some new underpants that I'm looking for, and I don't know if I have finances for it. And I don't know if I have the, the body type for it. I'm just I'm really working on both of those things. New job, new body. Let's do it. Hey. They if they flow, you gotta let them go. If they cling to the leg, they're a okay. That's that's what That didn't make sense at all. No. Well, I mean, it made plenty of sense. Had like five seconds. Give me a That's not Solomon. I'm

gonna go secular Ben Foust. Okay. Also, hey. So so my seven year old, we read we read bible stories tonight. And and my seven year old daughter says, dad, I'm not sure whether I love God.

And I thought, well, heck now. That's a business of a question. And so I I'm gonna tell you what I said. And and fellas, if you could give me some help and see whether I've whether I I've represented this correctly. I this is a conversation that I feel like will continue to come up just because it's the nature of the topic. And so, you know, if you run into this kind of thing, maybe help me out with some advice or just you know? I feel like I feel that way sometimes. I feel like me and your seven year old daughter have a lot of dialogue. So that was part of my answer. Yeah. So, anyway, we'll get to that because that that was just

it was a great I thought it was a great question, and I thought, maybe I don't love Jesus because I thought that was a great question. But, anyway, we'll we'll talk through. I'll I'll kinda tell you what I said. You can give me some give me some pointers on maybe how I can handle that because, like, that's a real life question right there for my seven year old. That isn't daddy, can you just tell me what's gonna happen on my birthday? So we're gonna talk about that. Also, there's some we have some advice on Dear Life and the Path. That's what's going on this week. We do. Hey. Just a just a big heads up. In case you're in the in the Iowa area, there's some festivals coming up. We me and Mike went out to Connections Fest Yeah. At in Norwalk, and it was very, very cool. And sometimes I forget because we we meet some of the bands that come in, and we get them in the studio and come through town. And we don't often get to see them in their element, like hitting the stage and putting a show on. And and these guys are working hard. Mean, I they're out there doing the work. They're loving Jesus, and they're they're spending time away from their family trying to bring encouragement to people. And I don't know. Support that kind of stuff. Collide Fest is coming up at that's a point of grace.

Real Fest is in Carroll. That's towards the end of July. Bash on the Farm's coming up. Yeah. That's mid June. So just Google that stuff. You know, I don't need to tell you all about it, but just Google that stuff. It's stuff within the Des Moines area, Johnson area, and Ames Boone stuff that you can go check out and and support those guys and and be encouraged by by people putting music on. And here's here's one of thoughts. We were watching the Rhett Walker Those guys were they did a great job. The show was just awesome, and they're very cool guys and have a real heart for Jesus. We were talking just a little bit after the show. And one of things I was thinking was as I was watching those guys is thinking about what worship was in in, like, David's time and and what worship looks like for us. And and sometimes we wanna fight about the instrumentation. We wanna fight about the the venue. We wanna fight about how many guys are doing it. And and as I was watching these guys and kinda listen to the lyrics and and enjoying the show,

it it it's it's just a hard deal. Like, are you worshiping God? Like, are you are you having an experience where you are coming to the coming to the throne of God in worship? Like, are you spending time with your creator in that moment, in that environment? And and, like, when we spend time fighting about all that other stuff, and, like, I'm with you. Equality is important, and, like, you wanna you wanna do things the right way, I guess. But, like, you know, times change. Like, it's not the the situation music situation the same as it was a hundred years ago. It's not the same as 500 ago. It's not the same in Missouri as it is here. It's not the same in Iraq as it is here. People can love Jesus in China and worship differently than we do. And so, like, I don't know. There was just a it was it was a very pure moment for me is thinking about worship in that in that arena,

not not necessarily being being tied down to what what what is a evangelical worship experience in The United States. And sometimes we guard that idol pretty close as to what this is supposed to look like. And and some of it's like, it's not bad to have it where, like, you do things the way other people do things because that's how you enjoy it or, like, that's okay. But, like, as long as we're not, I don't know, caged animals fighting over it. And that that's kinda that was the experience for me. So anyway, go ahead and enjoy the show. Enjoy the show. Those guys are working hard, and they're doing a great job, they love Christ. Alright. So what do you guys wanna fire up with? You wanna start a let's do the what's happening with Dan. Dan, what's going on in the world? What's happening? Alright. Alright. I got three things. Let's we'll start out we'll start out easy. Easy. This is this is a nice one. This is a nice one. These are the top five stressed states. A new study looked at factors about such as commuting times, housing prices, number of hours worked per week, and the most stressed states were Florida,

Georgia, New Jersey, California, Nevada. I don't know if it matters. North Dakota came in the very least just under, like, Us, Iowa and Mid Midwest states. They basically both coasts are real stressed out. The Midwest is pretty relaxed. Here's the question. We talk a lot about balance in life, especially on on our show. We talk about balance sometimes. What's the most important

factor in living a stress free life for you? Alright? A, is it the physical? Get plenty of exercise, sleep, healthy diet, that stuff. B, is it the spiritual? Engage in the spiritual disciplines, prayer, bible study, fasting, so forth. Or c, is it the emotional, take plenty of time off, think positive thoughts, watch comedies, whatever to make you relax. Now I know it's supposed to be balanced, but what's the most important to you? Man. Apparently,

based on the study, it's not living near a coastline. Yeah. Right. Not having the ocean. Yeah. I tell you what, when you were explaining that, I thought it's all the places with lots of people. That's what stress is. It's other people. Yeah. Other people stress me out. There's a lot of people there that causes stress. That's the truth. But honestly, you talk to everybody. They're all stressed out. It's like, how do you how do people how do you how do you relax? How do you how do you tell someone how do you relax? That's the question. You know, I I think I would

here's the deal. We're Like, on a Jesus radio show, so I gotta say it's spiritual. Right? But here's that's not the question. It's not the fake question answer. Well, let me continue my answer, Dan. I phony my way through my spiritual life, and it relaxes me. You know, I I don't know. I I don't even know that I can answer that. Here's here's what I do know, is that I know I don't feel stress coming on. I just I I I know when it's past its point. And then I I can usually attribute that to not spending enough time with my family and not spending enough time, you know, talking talking with with people close to me and actually engaging in a relationship. And so

I I'm still gonna borderline that on spiritual because, like, the only reason I even care about how I treat my family and how I treat other people around me is because of what Jesus said. Otherwise, like, if I'm, like, if I'm being honest in my own selfish gain, I I I don't care. I don't care if you're having a rough day or if things are stressful for me and I take it out on you. Like, it doesn't really matter to me. It matters to me because Christ said it matters to him. And, like, that that's a change in me done by him. It's not a change that I've instituted on my own. So I I mean, my phony answer is spiritual, and then my actual answer is is spiritual. Okay. Cheer. Alright. Yeah. I'm not sure how to follow that up, so I'm just gonna go see the emotional health is the one that is big to me. What do you find like a like a a a stress ball or an animal that you can, you know, weigh like? Three stooges or something? No. No. No. It's essentially, if the relationships in my life are in in good condition, then it's I'm fine. But when

relationships are out of balance, then that's when I'm gonna be stressed, and that's when I I feel like I need to go and try and fix this situation or whatever it is. Fix the person, maybe with a two by four. Don't know what, but, know, just XR Gene Duggan style. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah. So with spiritual, it's it's my answer to it's relieves stress, but it also causes stress for me. When it comes to the spiritual portion, can find myself less stressed if I'm actually engaging in my spiritual activity. I'm honestly reading my Bible, if I'm honestly in prayer. But I also derive some of the most stress from that because I find myself so many times at fault

not doing that, not in my Bible reading, not in my prayer life, and it causes me more stress. I'm realizing that I'm not involved in that. So it's kind of a stressor and a stress relief at the same time is is probably my my, my awful answer to that question. So b and not b. That's awesome. Terry Roy? I think the center of my stress is, you know, translating it into worry. And that's worry about everything. That's worry about finances, worry about, you know, my good parent, that kind of stuff. So I think it's being able to lay that worry aside because I that is one of my biggest stressors. I mean, it's just just carrying the worry, you know, because I my dad kind of instilled this this worry gene in me, you know, that you you can you concern yourself with absolutely everything around you. And then that way, you know, everything's handled. Yeah.

That's a good idea. I got some stuff in my place we need to fix. Things are out of hand. So so so is it possible maybe Jesus had a better way? Quite possibly. Just wondering. There's no room for the gospel on this show, Dan. I think that's it. We we we, we try to do things on our own. That's usually gets us in trouble. Any one of these can get you if you're just out of balance, really, it's supposed we should be in balance. I I kinda,

you know, poorly did the question to to make you have to choose one. But but you you need some some spiritual. You need you need some physical. You need some emotional support going in there. I I don't even know how I've tried to figure out, like, when Jesus says cast your anxiety on me, how do you do that? I haven't figured that out. And I've taught on it, you know. Yeah. Just cast it on Jesus. That's the best way to learn is just teach it. Yeah. Know what? I think I got I have some Pope style advice that's gonna that that I think will help address that. Awesome. We'll hit that later in the show. Good. Good. Good. Okay. Here's the next one. This one's a little more serious. Tracy Morgan, a comedian and in a serious accident. Everybody's been talking about it. His his limousine was hit by a semi trailer. The guy was up twenty four hours ahead of time, so he wasn't really all with it and and and slammed into it. The thing rolled several times. One of one of Tracy Morgan's very good friends passed away. Tracy himself is in the hospital, all kinds of broken bones. They were talking amputation. I don't think they had to. And he'll be in there for for quite some time.

Now there's a lot of negative talk going on in the news about the the truck driver and things he had on Twitter, like like, move or get hit. You know? It's like, well, that was before this happened, and so now they're saying, see, he did it. Anyway, it's it's a bad deal. Here's the question, though. How do you honest how would you honestly respond as a Christ follower if you were in Tracy's situation? K. I I got something. And and this is, an annoyance of mine is that the whole when everybody walks around saying, you know, hey, he made it out of there alive. God must have totally been with him. Or all those kind of things. In my mind, I look at it the other way. Regardless of if he died in the accident or not, if he was a Christ follower, God was with him. But I hate that phrase, that blanket phrase, oh, man. God, somebody must have really been watching out for you. Yeah. So, like, he wasn't if he didn't survive. Right. I mean yeah. Well, that's probably it because the implicit on the other side is is that, like, if he would have been more hurt, then it's like, God, turn his back on the situation, just kinda let it happen. And so, like, that's why that phrase is offensive. It's not because of what it's implying, but what it's on the other side of what it's implying. Yeah. Alright. So here's the question. I want you to put yourself think of yourself as him. You have a promising career. You're wealthy. You have this entourage. You're in this limousine bus that you own. Everything's going on. Everything's great. How do you how would you honestly respond as a Christ follower if you're in a situation? A, I would dream of ways to destroy the man's life while spending several weeks in the hospital.

B, I would completely forgive the man and beg the court not to put him in jail. He's He's gonna end up in jail. Or c, I would visit him in jail and do my best to lead the man to Christ. I feel like I don't I'm not encapsulated in any of three options. I would become extremely depressive. I don't know that I would yell that I'd be upset at the man to the point of wanting to ruin his life, but, like, I I think I would just be so bummed out, you know, that that, you know, that it'd be the casting anxiety thing. Like, I I don't know that I would, at that moment, trust that God had his hand in my life at all, and I'd be bummed out and depressive and would treat people around me very, very poorly. You ever heard the story of the song Forgiveness, that Matt with Matthew West song? Heard the story behind it? Phenomenal. It's basically a story, I mean, which kind of tells this out is that this this guy was drunk driving, ran over this this girl, killed her. And the mom fought to get this guy out of prison. I mean, she showed forgiveness so much that she fought to get this guy released early.

And that's what this whole I mean, the song Forgiveness, if you read the lyrics of it, you know, talks about that. But just a beautiful picture of somebody taking that to the extreme saying, yeah, I'm gonna forgive you and I'm not only gonna forgive you, I'm gonna fight for you. Yeah. Which I don't know that I could put myself in her shoes, but It's it's hard to say if you're not there, you know. Yeah. Theorize now, but but but No. I can tell you I wouldn't do it. Yeah. I can tell you, like, as it stands right now, I would not forgive that man in a Christ like way. And, yeah, I I don't know that I would represent, God correctly in that action. Yeah. I wanna say that I would answer c. I I want to say that, but I know that that

given the situation, I probably wouldn't. I I wanna say that I'd immediately forgive the guy, I would, you know, try and get him out of prison, try and get him out. Or if not quite go to the length of try and get him away from jail or prison, go and visit him and stuff like that. I think that maybe I I after a while, I'd be able to do that, but I can't imagine right now being able to say c. But given the correct answer, in my eyes, I want to say c. Mhmm. I actually feel like I would I feel like I'm pretty strongly that I would do c. Not because it's a virtuous thing,

but because I have control over that. Because, like, to a certain extent in that in that situation, someone's taking control away from me. Right? Like, there's things about my life that I have no tenable can't change my health at the moment. There's just there's not I I don't know what my future looks like. Right? But, like, a reaction that I can control, that I know has some at least virtue in it,

is that one. So I actually feel pretty strongly, not because I'm, there's a I because I'm a virtuous person, because I think about it correctly, but because I feel like that is the thing which I can control that is not destructive, and something that I I I only I can offer at that moment. Right? Like, someone else can't offer that for me. I I actually feel pretty strongly that that's what I would do, that I would do see. Assuming the guy doesn't love Jesus already. Actually, the chat makes a good point. Like, the assumption is the guy that ran into it's not like you could run into people with a car and love Jesus. No. No. People that hit people with cars, obviously. That's a good point. Anybody who's read Dude Rami doesn't hit people.

Lost control of his SUV, Uh-huh. Heagen. Must be I tell you what, though. I think he'd struggle through all these emotions. You know, as you're sitting in the hospital bed that you're gonna you know, he probably has a lot of, you know, obviously, a lot of financial power on his he could do a lot of things with attorneys. Know, he could ruin this guy. He could you know, there's a lot of things that would go through your mind if you had the ability to get revenge more than the average Joe like myself. If someone ran into me, you know, it wouldn't be in the news. No one would know the guy's Twitter account. It'd be like, whatever. But, anyway, yeah, interesting. Do you have anything, Dave? I'd say d, all of the above. Oh. Yeah. I mean, there's a part of me that would wanna plot revenge, and it'd be just all this self loathing type of thing. You think I'd work through it? Yeah. I'd then I'd work through it, and then I'd, as quickly as possible, try and make sure that the guy knows that he's forgiven. And, you know, obviously, he committed a crime against the state, not just against myself. So and as much as I'd like to fight for him, he's still probably gonna go to jail, and so I'd go and visit him and and help care for him while he's in jail. So yeah. Interesting. Alright. Here's the last one. What's happening?

Teacher forms relationship with a 15 year old. A mother discovers a bunch of inappropriate texts between her daughter and a 42 year old teacher. Alright? She calls the police. The mom does, reports the text. The teacher appears at their home. It's like early wee hours of the morning, uninvited prior to the police arriving. The dad asks the teacher to leave the house. The teacher refused, so the dad picks up a baseball bat and starts beating on the teacher. Now to the teacher's defense, police determined there was nothing criminal in the texts nor had any crimes been committed. Mhmm. Mhmm. K. They were just inappropriate texts. Here's the question. How would you respond as a Christ following father if this happened to your family when your daughter was 15?

Alright. A, I would discipline my daughter for responding to the texts and remove her from the school. B, I would beat the snot out of the teacher with a baseball bat. Or c, if my daughter is 15, she's old enough to make her own decisions about relationships. You read these questions? What are you saying? Boova. Man. Europe. Did

you just see the look of oh, on my face? Spit it out, Boova. Alright. Oh, man. I would have to fight myself to not do b. I really would. This is one of things that I'm scared of to be a father. I'm scared to have to deal with this kind of stuff. And I know that in the past, I've had one heck of a temper. And I can't imagine myself where I'm at right now being able to control myself. So luckily, even if I had a daughter right now, I still have fifteen years to grow to

possibly become a better man of Christ, to not wanna take a baseball bat to the guy. So right now, if I have 15 year old daughter, yeah, I'm hitting him with a bat. But if I'm looking at it from from the God fearing perspective, obviously physical retaliation is not the thing that's gonna happen because even if it even looking at it from a worldly perspective, taking God out of it, it doesn't solve anything. It doesn't. I mean, it definitely gets the guy away from your house. If your problem is that the man is not injured, it would solve that. Goes If the problem is the guy does still has a good structured face, suppose that's the that's that's a good way to fix that issue. I mean, it's just not solving the problem that you're thinking that we're trying to solve. Right. Exactly. So your issue right then is the guy is not hurt.

Violence is he. Okay. So my my honest answer would I I would hopefully, discipline the the daughter and and explain how this is inappropriate, how she should act going forward. And then I would definitely remove her from the school, get her away from the environment, especially if this guy's not gonna have any any, repercussions, legally because of being found at due of none, nothing wrong. Here here's the thing. These inappropriate texts are one thing. Right? That's one thing. Right. And then,

I feel like that's an in house, you know, I I need to talk to my daughter about that. And frankly, I need to talk to the guy. Like, I'd probably call a fella, and we'd have to go have a talk, you know. Without that. What exactly does your have a talk look like? It's none of your business, Eric. I'll tell you what, it's straightforward. That's what I'm gonna tell you. It's in words and then possibly into the back. Yeah. And so but, like, I feel like I can lovingly lead my daughter through that. And obviously, there's some things along the line that she's forgotten or I have not taught well that it was a situation to begin with. Right? And so I bear a little bit of responsibility there. Now the the the fella, I feel like we could have a talk and and hope everything was alright. And until he shows up at my house, he has no business there. And refuses to leave. He has absolutely no business there. Now granted, I still don't know that I'm a go out swing with a bat. It's it's just really not my style. I might flatten his tires and then chase him or something. I don't know. I'd come up with something creative, I think. Go on again?

No. No. No. But no. Just checking. But here's I I it's a different situation. The techs on their own are one situation. The man arriving and not leaving, that's a separate situation. And so I feel like, although I'm not a proponent of the beating the man with a bat, I mean There's obviously something going on there. That's that's you're not dealing with a rational person right now. You know I'm saying? A rational guy doesn't show up 40 years old, attempting to talk to a 15 year old at two in the morning at his parents' house. That, like, you're not dealing with a regular guy that you can just, like, have dialogue with and talk him out. Hey, Jared. There's something wrong with him. Okay. I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something here.

You know, you could just It's some it's I've been pondering it for the day. And I'm proposing it, because I I expect some sort of derision here. So is it possible it it has to do with the age of the of the of the kid. Is it possible that a lot of the sexual problems that we have in our society is because we get married too late? So so, like, if people used to get married, say Hey. Oh, you better let the silence sink in for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Just it just let it fill the room. My grandmother was married at 16. Drink it up. Now she's She was 33. Mhmm. Okay. So here's what I'm here's what I'm saying. Alright. It's a passive thought, but here's what I'm saying. Right?

Other cultures, it it's it happens. Previous times, it happens. People get married 12, 13, 14, 15. Okay? There's a level of maturity. 12, 13, 14, 15. Now you're asking people to say not become sexually active until they're married, biblically, but they're not getting married till they're 26

or something. Like, that's a lot bigger lift, isn't it? Yeah. Than get married at 14. Here's the deal. I'm just saying, I think it would cut down on cheating spouses. Because if you never have sex with anybody else, how do you know if the other guy ain't no good at it? You know what I'm saying? How do you know you know I'm saying? You just assume that this is the deal. Yeah. I feel like that cuts down on wondering eyes. I got married early for a reason. Because it was necessary? Because I wanted to do it. Enjoy all

everything. And I wasn't going to until marriage. Smart man. Okay. I mean I think a lot of though is we're we're that that society wasn't a disposable society. We're disposable. Everything's disposable. Cars, houses, everything's disposable. You mean you have it for a little bit of time. Okay. So give them a car when they're eight. Yeah. Let's do this with everything. But think about it though. I mean, if that those were made for permanents though. Everything back then was for permanents. You know? When you were married at 15, you everything was permanent. Yeah. I mean Yeah. That's true. A society of permanent. Although I think I might, you know, have a fleeting thought where I agree with Ben. The truth of the matter is is, like, it would be possible to stay that way. I feel like it would be impossible to return

that way. You know what I'm saying? Like, when it's already been in a disposable society like Jerry Royce is suggesting. Yeah. You know, like, you there's no way you're gonna get the first couple generations that you're trying to move on back to this thing to get on board. Well, those societies tend to be more mature and younger age too. Following along, because there's a and I get it. There's a conversation on the chat about, like, do teens make good decisions? We've kind of bred them that way, though. Like, we've we've bred a society where people don't grow up till they're 19. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, we we tell them not to. We and and I don't mean, like, grow up like you still can't act like, I don't know, you sit in the chair properly. But, like, we we've we've told people that they don't have to have a a level of maturity in their lives until they get out of college. Your life starts when you're 23. Yeah. Well, they You don't need a job. You don't need anything. You're supposed to be on our health insurance now till you're 26. Yeah. I mean And so, like, I mean, they're cultures where they sit there for a case. I mean, they're not as mature as they will be ten years from then. Okay? And I'm not I don't have a full enough perspective to say, yeah, that's the right answer. Everyone's in at 14. Right? But but two prong, I guess what I'm saying is, I feel like, trying to keep a biblical standard, you gotta wait a lot longer. That's a that's a long road to haul, generally speaking. A lot of damage is done between. That's yeah. That's okay. And and then number two is is that, like, it's it's probably not fair to say people are not ready based upon the standard of which we've produced, because I feel like we are a society in which we keep pushing off maturity. You're not a man until you're 40. And you don't have to and people don't aren't expected to act manly until they're 40 because we took all the responsibility from them and said, oh, you're still growing. You're still maturing. You're still you don't have to act this way until we're done with you through our school system, and then you can act like a man. Yeah. We we brought a society where where kids doing the dishes without their parents telling them to are given plenty of rewards because that's beyond expectations. That that that's absolutely ridiculous. We have no responsibility when it comes to our kids. We look at the kids that do a little bit more of initiative than the the average c student that doesn't do much and just does the bare minimum to get by, and we reward them for being so much further beyond.

In the society that we have today, I completely agree. I think that a long time ago, we would have been able to do this. But nowadays, I mean, you know, getting a cell phone at at 16 is is rare. We think that, it's just we haven't bred maturity for these kids. We have 18 year olds that think that this is when they start being an adult, or they don't have anything relationship or any responsibilities till after college age. Firmly on c. My daughter is 15. Sorry. She's old enough to make her own decisions. Yeah. But I'll take that fella out of the equation. So

We're loving a small bag. She can make the decision after that. Sweetheart, you're 15. You can make your own decisions. Just not that one. Just realize you can't date a man with broken legs. For example, that guy. For example, your teacher or used to be teacher laying in our front yard right now. Because you can't drive and he can't pick you up. And Wesley's his legs aren't broken. Exactly. And somebody pumped somebody punctured his tire. I'm not sure who. Something like that. Oh, wait. I repented of that.

That'd be toughie. Well, here's here's the deal, though. It's like I you know, some of the like, we like to blame on the culture. A lot of it, we like you know, I I internalize a lot of this stuff as a dad. Like, I do this with my own kids. I'm extremely soft on them. Yeah. A little bit because they're ladies and, you know, they're younger. They're like, you know, like, seven and four. And and, you know but to, like, a certain extent, those ladies get away with murder in my house. You know I'm saying? Like, sometimes when I'm trying to put them to bed or they're being ladies, I'm like, my kingdom for a boy that I can yell at. You know what I'm saying? Like, because if you yell at the ladies, they cry, and then and then I feel bad. You know? I'm like, where's the boy? Can't I have a boy somewhere? You know? I'm like, we're gonna go mow the lawn, and you're gonna walk next to the riding lawn lawnmower with me holding my soda. Let's go, boy. You know I'm saying? I can't make a daughter do use that. That was great. You're gonna take grass in the face, load up on testosterone, and make a day of it. And I'm I'm not talking like a like an old an over masculine boy, but you know what I'm saying? A boy. You know I'm saying? I told you to clean up your room, boy. You know? You tell the ladies that and there's a tear in their eye. I did the best I could, dad. Oh, you know you didn't. You dang it, ladies.

I'm actually really glad you don't have boys now because you could probably kick the crap out of me by now. I'll buy one from somebody. Four years out. Go chop the wood. You're a little bit taller than the axe. Go use it. Come on. And now for America's fastest growing game show. Secondary or solid one?

Alright. You've made the serious mistake of stumbling on America's fastest growing Internet game show, Secular versus Solomon. Here's the setup of the game. I'm gonna give you a proverb, a bit of wisdom, and the point is you need to know what comes from the Lord and what comes from your neighbor who's been drunk at the bar and thinks he's got something sweet to say. That's the nature of the show. Alright. I'm gonna give you a proverb bit of wisdom. You need to tell me secular or Solomon. If it is, Solomon, you get a high five. If it is if you guess secular, you need to tell me a country of origin. You did not get anything right yet. No pre high five. Preemptive high five. I I thought the prize was a boy. It's coming. Alright. That's

that's the name of the game. You guys in? We're in. Got k. Snuggles on that microphone. Here we go. Bit of wisdom, number one. If you guys are playing in the chat, feel free to play along at home. You're generally a couple seconds behind, so I think you're gonna be just fine on the secular Solomon. Here we go. When God gives hard bread, he gives sharp teeth. When God gives hard bread, he gives sharp teeth, secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. That is secular Greece. Greece, my food. They love the bread. I'm gonna go with

I'm gonna go with secular and Tanzania. Oh, Mike says no carbs in Europe. Tanzania. Dave Herrick. Secular Ukraine. Ukraine. John Buba. Secular Zambia. Zambia?

Africa. You're a bigot. Zambia. Go ahead, Jared. Secular or Sullivan.

I'm gonna say secular Deep South. That is not a country, Roland. Have revealed yourself the country. As a guy that has not watched the show. You you really wanna have a passport if you're going there. Ben's got a baseball bat. Be careful. Alright. I'm gonna let you go with that one time. Country. Secular song, when God gives hard bread, he gives sharp teeth. That is secular Germany.

Yes. Who said what? That's a point for Mike. You guessed some sort of African country. Is why we never let Mike do scoring. Hey. Hey. Point for Mike. Point right now. For Mike. You pre high fived and failed. You're down three points, sir. I just got it right. I got that, Ben. You did not see Germany. Whatever. Tanzania. I said Zambia. Okay. Good. Moving on. Move it. Secular or Solomon, a king's wrath is a messenger of death, and a wise man will appease it.

A king's wrath is a messenger of death, and a wise man will appease it. Secular or Solomon, Mike Foust? That smells like Solomon, Ben. Ecclesiastes Solomon. K. Dave Herrick. Solomon as well. Bubba. Proverbs Solomon. Solomon. David. Dan. Solomon. Gotta say it. Care do you care to make a distinction? I can't be the one guy who doesn't I was gonna say Solomon, though. King's wrath is a messenger of death. Proverbs 18. A wise man will appease it. Proverbs 16. Oh. Solomon. Wow. That's a negative one, Dan. That is right. Okay. So alright. So hold on. Hold on. Break that out, though. A king's wrath is a messenger of death. A wise man will appease it. Yeah.

Yeah. What do mean? Yeah. You gotta explain it speaks what happens happens. If if and he's all upset, you gotta make him happy. What if he's a real jerk? Well, you still gotta make him happy or he will king. This is why this is why people like Pasticize the Menghazi. Especially You don't antagonize the king. In our in our culture have such a hard time with this because we don't hold anyone with that esteem. No. That's true. We don't have kings that's why why like, generally, we have a hard time with king Jesus. You know what I'm saying? We just don't have we don't have anything that we compare to in our culture that has to do with a king that just gets ultimate, you know, authority. That that's that's true. I think that's true. You don't think that's true, Dan? He has a pen and a phone. The king? A lot of signed in

our our our president is never mind. Dan, if you wanna start your own political talk show, the time slot is over. Engaging in the conversation. It's not relevant to the person that's in the office. We we get rid of every four years. Right. This is nothing like a king. Right. It's the office itself. Not it doesn't matter who's there. He doesn't wear a crown. Alright. Secular of Solomon. A bribe is like a magic stone in the eyes of one who gives it. Wherever he turns, he prospers. A bribe is like a magic stone in the eyes of the one who gives it. Wherever he turns, he prospers. Secular or Solomon? Dave Herrick. Secular Persia. Persia. That's not a that's not a real country anymore, Herrick. It was. It's time to move on. The globe has changed. Had

an empire. I'm gonna go secular Italy. Oh, I was gonna say Italy. Roy, this is a radio program. You have to use a microphone. Sorry. I was gonna say secular in Italy as well. Okay. To the right, we get bonus. To the right, it's never gonna hit a bandwagon with Buva. Knutson.

It is secular and it is obviously India. The magic stone. I hear stones. I think native equals of India. Boo was a bigot. Mike. That sounds like many wives and wisdom to me. That's Solomon. A bribe is like a magic stone in the eyes of the one who gives it. Wherever he turns, he prospers. I really wish you wouldn't give such ego massages to Mike Foose. That is Solomon. Proverbs seventeen eight. Bigot.

Proverbs? I'm sorry. What did you say? Bible college? Yeah? Bible college? Yeah. I didn't take the Proverbs twice. Okay. That's gonna be 10 points for me. Need the New Testament. Pagan Mike gets bonus. Secular or Solomon, the wolf will hire himself out very cheaply as a shepherd. Oh, yeah. That's that's awesome. The wolf will hire himself out very cheaply as a shepherd. Bargain shepherd, booba, secular or Solomon? I'm gonna go secular Scotland.

Discount for a Scottish wolf. Hey. Did you hear Scotland's trying to secede from Britain to get out of what what what do what did they both combine? What are they called? United Kingdom. Yeah. Hey. Hey. If you wanna start your own political show That's not a political statement. That was just a, hey. You heard what happened? Yeah. World affairs with King Mike. I heard one interesting thing about I didn't know anything about that Tracy Morgan thing.

Thought I'd throw some pie. Hey. Hey. Just because you listen to NPR doesn't make you something. Alright. Dan was right. That's a foul on me. Jared Roy. Let's say secular Israel. Israel. Dan Hudson. Yeah. It's secular. I forgot what country I had. What do we it's just wolves. Transylvania.

That's what I was thinking. That's in the country? You list The UK. They're hairy. That's two countries. It's it's Scotland and Great Britain.

Is it not? Great Britain then. And Wales. And Wales. It's Great Britain. I'm saying secular and Holland. The wolf will hire himself wait. Did you go to no. Not yet. No. You're up, Perrot. Go ahead. Okay. Secular Russia. The wolf will hire himself out very cheaply as a shepherd. Secular Russia.

What? Dave Herrickson with a Russia. He saw the reflection off the wall, Ben. That's why we high fived. I knew that was gonna happen. How do you spell your name again? That's plus one. Secular Solomon, you're trying to identify whether you can pick out biblical wisdom or otherwise. Here we go. When you go to a donkey's house, don't talk about ears. When you go to a donkey's house, don't talk about ears. Secular

or Solomon? Jerad Roy. Secular Mexico. Secular Mexico. He's the new Dan Hudson. I saw a statue of a guy and a donkey at the front of my friend's house, and I know everything. Dan Hudson. It it it's secular. I'm going Kenya.

No doubt. Mike. Hey. Do you even try anymore, Ben? What's that? The donkey in the ears and whatnot. Here's the deal. Six months ago, they at least had a biblical ring to it. Hey. Hey. Donkey a donkey is a biblical animal. Okay. It carried Jesus. It convinced people to do weird things. I wanna say secular and Rwanda. Secular Rwanda. Dave Herrick? Spain. Secular. Spain. John Buba. Secular Italy. When you go to a donkey's house, don't talk about ears. Ecclesiastes

seven three or Jamaica. Secular or secular Jamaica. Would you go to a donkey's house? Yeah. You're there. You knock on the door. Hey. He said he'd be here. Alright. Here we go. Secular or Solomon, whoever is slack in his work is a brother to him who destroys.

Whoever is slack in his work is a brother to him who destroys. Secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. It is Solomon 24. I mean, Proverbs 24. Proverbs 24, Mike. That was actually the premise. Dan's been harvesting from the Apolographa, Solomon 28. That was actually the premise of the me and Buva TV show. I'm gonna say that's Solomon and yeah. Solomon. That's it. Wait. Is Buva the guy who slacks and you're the destroyer? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That seems like prime time radio. Dave Hurtin.

I'm gonna go Solomon, Proverbs, but I really like the idea of being brother of a destroyer. That sounds pretty cool. It does sound pretty cool. It is alright. That's that was the name of the guy on the white horse. Whoever is slacking his work is a brother to him who destroys. John Mubah. Solomon. I'm gonna go Proverbs 26. Jared Roy. I'll say Proverbs Solomon as well. And You don't have to make a Okay. Yeah. Just Solomon. You do not have to do progynostation. Only the really good ones guess. I'll count negative points if you're wrong.

Whoever is slack in his work is a brother to him who destroys. It is indeed Solomon Proverbs 89. Oh. Actually, that might not literally be Solomon. Might be might be one of them other fellas. Is it up for debate? One of the other sons. Yeah. Sorry, Bubba. I've I so I I unintentionally, in a sermon one time, I said I quoted a proverb and said it was Solomon. It was not Solomon. Did Solomon Like, write it in. Say that wasn't Solomon. It was identified. Yeah. Someone called me. Solomon

didn't come into, like, chapter 10. Right? No. No. He fires it up. He uses other ones every once in while thrown in there. Yeah. What's his name? It starts with an a. I'm gonna call him Aiken, but I don't think it's Is the is Aiken the guy that got swallowed up in the tent, Clay? No. Aiken was the guy who stole something from the city The head. Right. And then his tent got taken down. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the result. It was a theft. Him and his family Okay. Like the toilet. Like a fire of toilet. Toilet fire. Yeah. Alright. Mhmm. Yeah. The guy who stole the stones. I feel like hey. Hey. Herrick, you need to resolve the relationships in your life before you cause stress. You wronged me.

Let me give you a gift. Thank you. He's very dear to me. Thank you, Godly. Secular or Solomon, a wise king winnows the wicked and drives the wheel over them. A wise king winnows the wicked and drives the wheel over them. Secular or Solomon, Mike? That sounds like Nehemiah. I'm gonna give it a

I'm gonna give it that Solomon. That's Solomon. Dave Herrick. I'm gonna go Solomon as well. A violent Solomon. Solomon. Solomon. Dan. I'm going second there. Proverb Egypt. Egypt.

Watch out for the wild chariots in Egypt. A wise king winnows the wicked and drives the wheel over him. There is wisdom in, I don't know, vehicular homicide. Proverbs twenty twenty six. I just wasn't gonna go for it. I've seen Ben Hur. You know, that might actually be a redemptive analogy right there. Hit me with it. Well, I you know, you're taking wheat in an unprocessed form, and he winnows them and takes them, and then puts them all over the grindstone and turns them into actually usable flour. That's true. I was Next thinking step is bread. I was thinking Mercedes. I kinda pulled that out of context. Yeah. That's a good call. Was thinking wagon wheel. That's why was gonna crush on somebody. It. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Second you got the chance you guys given up. Let's take a look the word Solomon. The turtle lays thousands of eggs without anyone knowing. But when the hen lays an egg, the whole country is informed.

The turtle lays thousands of eggs without anyone knowing. But when the hen lays an egg, the whole country is formed. Secular. How does it cost to get a new bin? Solomon. Dave Herrick. Secular. Let's go Yemen.

That sounds right. Hoover. Secular Bosnia. Sounds like Osnia. Djerbois. Secular Germany. Germany. Dan. Secular. It's somewhere along the Panama Canal, though.

Panama, maybe? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. That's the one. I was narrowing it down. Panamanism. You know, there's only one country around the Panama Canal. I've been down there. So okay. You know, Dan's convinced me. I'm going to a secular Chile. It's in the nether regions. And as our eggs? No cover. Regions of the world. There we go.

The turtle lays thousands of eggs without anyone knowing. But when the hen lays an egg, the whole country is informed. Secular, Malaysia. Malaysia. That's right next to Tule. Isn't it? That's that's in the same vicinity of the Yeah. Southern Hemisphere. Sure. That's three points for me. Secular or Solomon.

Wait until it is night before saying it has been a fine day. Wait until it is night before saying it has been a fine day. Secular or Solomon. Big John Buba. I feel like there was a snake in there. I'm gonna go secular Mongolia. Good. Good. Excellent.

Secular Romania. Watch out for Dracula? Yeah. Okay. Dan Hudson. He might ruin your day. It's Canadian. There's no doubt about it. Canadians jump the gun on the quality of the day. They can't. They can't.

I will go I'll follow Dan's lead again. I'm gonna go secular Greenland. Secular Greenland, Dave Herrick. Secular Germany. Wait until it is night before saying it has been a fine day. Yeah. Make sure there's no not too many good vibes in France. France. Don't don't overstep your bounds on good days in France. Dan was pretty close. That's pretty much Mongolia, except for it's not at all. Canada.

Here we go. Final roll. They speak French. Final roll. Tally them up, double them, divide by two. Secular Solomon, death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. Secular or Solomon? Jared Roy. I say Solomon. Solomon. Dan Hudson. I'm gonna say Solomon. Solomon, Mike. I've left no choice, Ben. Solomon. Secular Zimbabwe. Herrick. I'm gonna go along with him and Solomon. Solomon. Move on. Solomon. Proverbs 14. Boy, you really look foolish, Mike. Death and life for the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. It is indeed Solomon. Proverbs 18.

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what what was it? The 10 things or five things said to raise money on Christian radio. What do think? Was solid. Yeah. That was that was a solid See see how you do on that. And then there's a couple there's a couple iterations of it's the end of the world as we know it, which basically, do you know your in time bible predictions? Yeah. But, again, asterisk, non bible prediction. Hey. You wanna know the scores real quick? Yeah. Hit me. Dan had three. I had 47. Dave Herrick had two. Muba was 17 in the hole, and Jared came out with six. Not a bad job, Jared. That's that's close. That's pretty good. Yeah. What put me so far in the hole? Whatever. Your ways. Hoover.

Listen here. When you think of people as as things and not people, as not like living beings with hearts, that's how you get under under the That's very profound. It had nothing to do with what we're talking about. When you people they're not changing ways, because you're I'm gonna have to add a negative 18. Talk to Ben in a reasonable way. Like he's a friend. Yeah. See what you did? You treated me like a piece of trash, like a c n say. Like, you just spun the thing and I said something and then you got to your ass off. That's what you were like. Ben, can I offer you some feedback as a friend? Go patronize me. Mike ducked him again.

Stay at 20, Al. You're the kittens. I can't win. I'm gonna win. Alright. So here's what happens to me. Here's what happens to me. We're I'm reading tonight with the with my daughter. She's seven years old, and we're we're reading through Matthew. And she votes for the bible stories. I love this kid. She's the best kid ever. The second one in line no. She's not in.

She bites. Well, has it for a while. So anyway, so the seven year old likes the bible stories. We're reading through Matthew we're I don't know. Five seven. We're in the sermon on the mount. And we're talking about she handles murder well. She seems to understand the thing about adultery and oath. K? We got through all these things, divorced. She seems to be fine with them, understands where we're coming from. And I can't remember what got us on the conversation, but she said she says to me, dad, I I sometimes I wonder if I think about this. I think about this a lot. I wonder, do I really love God?

And I thought, holy cats. I didn't like, there's there's places, environments where you see that coming. Right? Like, people at the people that you run into in the church that where their life kinda reflects some kind of disarray. And you're like, well, maybe I don't really love God. Or, like, spiritual crises or maybe just honest talk among folk. Say those kinds of things. I just I didn't see it coming for my sweet little seven year old girl sitting on the couch reading through the the the bible, the what is it? The remedial rendering of the NIV. And so

I I didn't I wasn't quite sure how to well, here's what I said. Okay? Here's basically here's here's kind of the gist of what I tried to explain. I said, well, you know, what do you mean by that? And so she kind of explains, and she says, well, you know, sometimes I I I I still do things that I'm not supposed to. I still there's still sin in my life. I said, sin in my life? What kinda who says that? What are you, 38? And so she goes, you know, and and and and then sometimes I don't I just don't feel whether I love whether I love God. And I thought, you know, I I feel that. I have that to me. Like, that's a very that's a very relevant thing to me because there have been times, and we've kinda talked about this on the show before where, like, you look at other people's relationship with Christ, and they seem to be much more involved in this thing. Or they feel it more. They have emotional responses where I don't have emotional responses. Or, like, they have these what what feel like very in-depth or intimate conversations that, like,

they just don't feel honest to me for me if I were to have the same thing. And so there's times where, like, well, maybe, you know, maybe I just don't love God. Maybe I think I do. Maybe I get some brain knowledge and say this is what I know. But there have been times in my life where I've had doubt, and I'm like, maybe I just don't really love God, and then this is a bit of a show. And, like, boy, that seems not worth it. And so, you know, I and she's probably not in that depth about it, but I thought, okay. Like, I've I've I've felt that in my life. And where I felt like I wondered if someone else's faith was more genuine than mine without me otherwise acting about it. And then, also, I think she was looking for she looks around at the relationships that she has, like, with her parents or with her siblings or whatever, and and she doesn't necessarily feel that same way with God. And her example was is she goes her younger sister, she said, you know, I I don't know. Sometimes I wonder because sometimes I don't treat my younger sister like I'm supposed to. Maybe I don't love her. She goes, but one time we were at the park, and and I couldn't find my mom or my little sister. And I found my mom, and I still couldn't find my little sister. And she goes, I was very sad. And I know that I love her because I missed her. And so I said, well, I mean, have you ever had a situation where you were going to pray and you you really felt like you needed needed God?

And so you you went to him and then you felt better. And she said, no. I said, oh, well, that was a that was a crappy example I've come up with. And I I really set that up to fail, didn't I? You're right. You hate yeah. And then I and so so and and I talked through that. And so here's here's kind of where I came up with for her. As I said, I said, first of all, how you feel is not always,

or even often reflective of what is true. Right? Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean something or other is is true one way or Some some some people don't feel relationships the same way. And and we looked at the in first John, we talked about John a little bit, and I said, you know, look at John's. He says, if you love God, you will follow his commandments. Basically, you're agreeing that he is who he says he is, and that when he says to do something, whether you feel like it's good like, it's the choice you would make, it's the choice God is is saying to do as the king, and you're obeying those things. And that's showing love for God. That's how it kinda John kind of explains that thing. And then we talked about kind of the relationship where,

you know, I I thought, well, she doesn't go to God for those types of things because God has set up a family structure where, like, her needs for those types of things are are met in her in her parents. And where I would go to God because I I I kinda get that big picture, a broader scale. Like, I wouldn't expect her experience is that when she skins her knee on the sidewalk is to use practically the hands and feet that God has put on the earth to raise her and say, dad, I I skinned my knee. You know? And we'll and we'll we pray about those things. And and

but but I think that that's kind of her experience. It's not necessarily that I would skin my knee and then say, no, dad. Never mind. I'll tell Jesus. You know? And so so practically, that's not that's not necessarily experience. And so those are kind of the things that we that we talked through. And and I she she had an example. There was someone that at school that who doesn't who doesn't love that her family aren't Christ followers, and she wanted to give her a bible. And she and I knew that she had tried. I'd known that. But she told me today, she goes, but but I was I was scared to do it. I she goes, I waited two weeks. There were two weeks I wanted to do it, I didn't do it because I was afraid. I said, you know, what were you afraid of? She goes, well, know, I was afraid that maybe she, you know, she doesn't know that I love God, and she doesn't you know, maybe she won't play with me or something.

I don't know how she'd take it. She goes, but the but the third week is I I went out and I offered her a bible. And it's kind of funny story because she goes up and she goes, you know, hey. I brought you a bible. Would you like it? And then she goes, no. Thanks. Then she just kinda moved on. And I thought, well, solid. And I and I said and that was my example to her is I said, well, in that moment, in those weeks, you thought, I I'm afraid that something that I'm going to do for God is going to impact my life in a way that I don't want. I I don't want it to not have her be my friend or have her not play with me. I said, but you you did that anyway. You still did it. And she goes, yeah. I did. I said I said, that's I mean, that's that's kind of what we're talking about is is God is saying this is what's best, and you're saying, I may not even agree with that except for I'm agreeing that you're God, and obviously you know, and I wanna be able to I I I'm working obedience. So, she's a mature seven,

but she's still seven. So I don't know, Phyllis. Like, because it's something that I've had in my own life, and I just thinking about her age, just thinking about, like, the context of of the discussion that we've had. What what do you think? Yeah. You know? I think I think it's like any relationship you have. I mean, I'm I'm in in my marriage relationship, I love my wife. Sometimes I have to remind myself what that means, though. Yeah. I may not feel it sometimes. Sometimes I may not feel very loving or or I don't may not feel like I love my neighbor, but I I it's the actions that show the love. It's the the obedience that comes with it. And it's it's extra hard. Mean, I it's hard enough for people. Yeah. It's extra hard when

the Jesus, who you you've never seen Yeah. You've you've spoken to, but he's never like it's never been a two way conversation in that like we have. Yeah. It's it's extra hard I think even for for adults, but especially for children that, you know, to to go beyond it's not just my make believe friend, like he's real. Yeah. And and trying to figure that out, especially at seven. I think I think that's a that's

a hard concept to grasp. It was a hefty that was a hefty proposition, boys. Yeah. It was a hefty deal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I've that that exact thought will rattle me for two days. You know what saying? Like, I'll think, man, you don't have a do do I really believe what I say I do? I'm like, I've I've built all this stuff up and only to come to find out that I, you know, I I'm lukewarm. Right? Like like, you read that part in Revelation, and I'm like, well, he he wants anything different than what I am. Right? He would rather me turn my back on the thing than half submit what I'm submitting. Right? And so, like like, last time I read that, it just it shook me for a little bit. I'm like, you know, I feel like I wanna know, you know, why I have one toe in the water. And I'm and and actually, the the the fruit of that conversation has turned out to be something very positive in my life. But, you know, I I I don't know that you could've handled it any different without being dishonest.

You know I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I mean, really, that's all you can do. I I found out I find that the folks that I that I tend to grow the most in around with their walk with Christ is the ones that are just honest. I mean, honest in in not only their failings, but their struggles, and and and God washes out on the other end, and and he's still king. Right? And, like, it always comes back to he's still king, but it's like sometimes I have a hard time looking at the throne. Sometimes I have a hard time being in the kingdom. Sometimes I have a hard time caring what God is saying. But the truth of the matter is, he's still God, and he's still king. And no matter it doesn't matter how I feel about it right now,

that is still the truth. Yep. And so, like, I have I fall back on that. Right? Like and and if if if I could instill that even just that thought in my kids apart from maybe the the gushy lovey, you know, god wants to hug on you kind of thing, which I think is great. And there, like, there are people that say express that way, and we talked about that. Yeah. And I'm and I'm totally okay with that. I I'm not saying it's wrong. That's not generally my relationship with Christ maybe. But, like, what I do know is it doesn't matter where I'm at, he's always still God, and I always still know that. Even if I'm mad at I'm I'm sometimes I'm mad at him. Sometimes I feel like he's pushing me places I don't wanna go. You know? But, like, I can always I can always walk back through it and go, he's still God, Mike. I'm like, he's still king here. You know? What are you gonna do? Get out of the kingdom? Fight the wind? You know? Like, Proverbs, get out. You know? It's not gonna happen. Yeah. And so, like, that helps me stay in the kingdom of God. And, like, I I always get I always get the hug later. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always feel I always feel it when I did not

choose to turn my back on that. And it's not like the, you know, maybe a crazy Pentecostal love, but it's still a I know I'm loved. I I know I obeyed. I I know this is where I belong. I'm glad that I had that root. And so, like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm giving it a thumbs up. I don't know. I probably wouldn't have pulled it off with that amount of poise. Okay. Ben, there's three things that I really like about your response. Okay. One is that you recognize just how significant the question was. Uh-huh. It wasn't just you pass it off. Oh, hey. That's nice, honey, or anything like that. You actually recognize this is something significant. And you also acknowledge to her that this is something that I kind of struggle with as well. Second thing is I like that you connected it to action. You didn't you kind of stepped away from this feeling oriented type of love and actually looked at it from an action oriented type of perspective, and I and I love that. And the third thing that I really like is that the way you illustrated it with your daughter was through a story about how she did something that cost her. Because ultimately, love is it's demonstrated by action, but it's measured by sacrifice. Yeah. And that's

something that I think a lot of our teenagers really need to hear is that when a guy is coming up to, you know, teenage girl and he says, oh honey, I love you. You know what? You can see it in his action, you can measure it and what it costs him. Anything else is just cheap talk. So yeah. Okay. Besides, the heart is fickle. Yeah. Fickle like a sheep. I'm mad at boova right now for unknown reasons. You shouldn't. Mostly because of his negative score. Ben, there's one specific thing that I liked about that. K. You helped me identify where I'm at in life, and I think that I am at the mentality of a wise seven year old.

And, High five. I think that that's one of the most valuable things I've had in a long time is I can officially say, guys, I know where I'm at. I'm a wise seven year old. Yes. You are. I'm interested. I'm happy there. So I've been assessed. I very much live in that area as well. Yeah. I thought, we're gonna walk the path, and you're eventually gonna have to show me where I went wrong. Right. Exactly. Dear daughter of mine. I wonder if everybody wants to get married at seven. You know what saying? We we can't seem to get out of it. Alright. You've been listening live from the path. Hey. If you're listening on ninety nine point three KTA, I love you. I I think. I haven't met you, so I guess I can't vouch for all of you. Some of you I might chase with a ball bat.

But we gotta let you go because we we don't pay for so much time here. So we're gonna have to let you go. If you're hanging out on the podcast, give us, like, thirty seconds. We'll be right back with you. Thanks for listening to Live From The Path. Who's gonna watch it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sweet. Alright, guys. Who's taking out? Who's taking out of the chest?

Alright. Welcome back. Welcome back to the podcast. Sorry. We just had trying to have a conversation. Here's the deal. Jared Roy brought in, like, 10 boxes of cereal. They're crazy. It's pretty distracting. Because you can't crunch cereal on the air, man. I mean, we're we're not a legitimate show, but I mean, there's a level legit legitimacy that says, don't eat cereal and do a microphone. Sorry. And so it's Next time gummy bear. It's extremely distracting because all I think is like, is that whatever that golden crib.

That's always in my mind. And hey. And it makes me think that the guys the the cinnamon toast crunch guys are like the crazy uncles of the snap crackle pop guys. Actually, I always thought they were at they were they were like the Hatfields and the McCoys. You know what saying? Like Oh, they don't get along. Yeah. Yeah. So like the yeah. The two the the the

toast crunch guys are called something. Don't they? Yeah. They look like chefs, and they're always fighting with the snap crackle poppers, like like when they're not busy. Here's did I ever tell you Ben and I's idea for his TV show? So we were gonna have a show about, like you ever seen those guys on, like, the pedestrian walking signs? Like, he's just a Yeah. Just a straight up black looking fella like that. Know, he's just all black and no hands, no feet. Right? And, like, the show was about that family. And that's what he does. He poses for signs. Right? And so, like, he goes through, you know, throughout his day, like, he posed for the crosswalking sign. And if you ever seen, like if you're around a bunch of industrial machinery, like, he always gets wrapped up in the moving parts of a tractor and half his legs are thrown over somewhere, and his torso is, like, flying around. I'm like, that's a rough day at the office. You know? But then he's gotta put himself back together and go back home. Sometimes the whole family works when it's a school crossing. All the kids are involved. Anyway, sometimes he has to really help with, like, go 45 degree angle and hold down some stairs for a fire sign. I think it would be genius. Anyway, I'm good at stories. I

like it. Alright. So you got a couple of guys got Pope style. What do you got? Okay. Mine's quick, actually. Okay. What's premise of Pope style, man? Okay. So here's the deal with Pope style advice. Someone has we're going with at the local bar, some, I don't know, scurrilous high school friend of yours, not friend, told everybody at the bar that you were the pope.

And so they all get together. They call their friends, and now there are 8,000 people on your front lawn waiting for you to come out and give some pope style advice, where you get out on the balcony in the square and you give some sort of pontiff type of advice. And they're not gonna leave your yard until you do it, Mike. So you gotta give them some bit of wisdom that has some relevance to yours in their life so it's an honest honest outlook. Otherwise, they're never gonna leave your grass, and your petunias will never grow. Pope style them. Ready? Yeah. It's quick. 90% of your problems with your relationship with God is tied up in how you treat other people. Wham. That's my Pope style advice. That's an accusation. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I give advice.

Hope my daughter cause and effect backwards on that. Yeah. No. No. Really partnering with us to get us so past this. Here's here's the deal. And, like, it's it's it's it's true on actually both the flip the the flip sides, and here's why. Because I I was I was I don't know. I was I was thinking about this the other day because we were talking about last week on the show. A lot of people are and and this is myself included, get get caught up in sin oriented relationship barriers with Christ. Like, if I could just get rid of this sin, then my relationship with Christ would be great and we would be firing on all cylinders. Everything would be off. And

and really what it this is gonna sound weird. Right? But, like, when you focus solely on your sin, which in the Bible actually describes is that you're going to do. Like, you're gonna do that. Okay. You're gonna sin. Right? And so when you focus solely on your sin, now you've taken your sin, elevated it, and then selfishly spent all your time on it. And spent no time, like, doing the second part of of loving on God's people. And and really, what it boils down to is is if you take the specific sin in your life and, you know, we we could probably go through them one by one, but, like, there's a there's a couple three four biggies and you you took your area of sin where it's at and focused that on spending, you know, that time with other people and being generous with other people and loving on other people, whether it be whether your problem be with money or whatever,

then I I think you would find, a, you don't have time to sin like you used to, and, b, God will glorify it and because you will both be loving on his people and showing Christ's love through yourself. Just a question. Isn't isn't like, you know, we talk about how what worry is, you know, and worry is obviously a sin. But do you think that we take that when we're Christ followers, we we move forward, we start worrying we we take that worry away from things of the world, and we start worrying about things of of God. And we take that worry and we just kind of we move it into a different category in our lives and we say, okay. Well, I'm not gonna worry about these things anymore because I know God's got me, you know, for this.

But now I gotta worry about this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we we've we've taken worry out of the out of worldly context so that it's not sinful, but then we made it righteous. We it's a righteous worry. Yeah. I'm worrying about the right things, Lord. Isn't that what you wanted? Yeah. Yeah. So then when you say cast your cares by him, okay. Those cares too? Alright. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. No. That's actually, that's probably that's a downfall of a of a healthy Christian life is is just shifting is basically sanctifying the problems of the world and turn them into Jesus' problems. Like, as opposed to being prideful about the things that the world glorifies, we just find, you know, religious stuff to to be prideful about or religious things to worry about. And we we just kinda shift the lens of the sin without actually dying to it and giving it away. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Anyway, that's my postdoc advice. And maybe that might be a lot for me. But, like, I I I really find find that your opportunity to sin goes way down when you spend time I'm not talking about, like, random people you never met. Like, we really like to get on board with the random acts of kindness. If you if you do kindness all the time, you will eventually hit a random guy. You know what I'm saying? Like, most of them will fall on people that you know, but real randomly end up, yeah, hitting somebody. So the random acts of kindness are to a certain extent, like, the right connotation or or kindness vandalism. I mean, it doesn't

there's not it's not the same amount of risk as actually getting close to someone and being kind to them and investing in their life. Right? Like, you can chuck up a loaf of bread at a homeless guy and say, win for the day. You know? That's different than investing in that guy's life. You know what I'm saying? And so as much as there it makes you smile to see, kindness vandalism, it's a different level of, like, actually having some sort of relationship with someone and spending time in their life. You know, that's the thing. It's actually the people that have blown me away or blown me away are the folks that, like, I look at it as like, man, they did a random act of kindness, you know. And the truth of the matter is I just happened to run into them that day. They do it all the time. Like, you can't stop him from doing weird crap like that. They're hunting down people at the holidays they don't know with, like, $50 and be like, you know what? I walked in here. I said, Lord, let me look at a guy. I'm giving him $50. And the Lord's like, that's the guy. And I go then they get $50. And I'm like, you seriously do that? Oh, yeah. Sometimes it goes over awkward, but we do it. We do it every year. I'm like, every year? Like, this outrageous. You know? I'm it would take me two years to gear up to do it once. But but like I I don't like I said, those are the folks that absolutely blow me away is that, you know, they never get they never are doing a random one time act of kindness. They do it all the time. I just happen to witness it once. They're living a life of kindness. That's right. You randomly stopped in. That's right. I just happen to be passing through their TV show, and then I'm I'm written off the next episode. You know? But that's my pope style advice. If you're having if you're having a hard time nailing down certain certain, you know, sins in your life, things that are separating you from the father, first of all, that is definitely a prayerful

bible reading conversation. But if you wanna put some action steps into that, take up your time with other people for a little while. That's that's an idle hands problem. Like, it's not just, hey, man. It's it's good if you do work. It's like, you keep you keep your I don't know. Section your time off. Yeah. That's why nunnery is an effective means of living. I used to have a very clean bathtub for almost that exact reason. Yeah. And if I felt like a sin wasn't coming, I'm like, time to clean the tub. I went through, like, three bottles of common when I was a teenager. It's terrible. Every week. Alright. Bubba, you got some postiles. Have it. I do indeed. Mine's gonna be, actually quick rather than, than saying it's quick and then it's I wasn't really finished yet, if we're being honest. So so this is this is coming from from

some experiences that happened the last couple weeks and then also, some bible reading and then some outside of the bible reading also, which I try to draw from that the least of which. But I was reading Angela's Ashes and I had the following thoughts. I was reading the local phonies and I thought to myself, oh, Marmaduke, I can take a lot from you. I was about the screenplay to the golden girls. That's obscure. I know Angela's asked you so I was at the I was teaching the revelation class at the youth for the youth on Sunday, and it was in the Spanish room at the at the school. And Angela's Ashes I was looking through the novels

because I'm an English guy. And I'm like I'm just like, oh, I haven't read that. And I actually read Angela's Ashes. I really liked it. But I I hadn't seen that book forever. So, anyway, continue. Thank you. Pope style me so I may go. Pope style. So apparently, the the people at the bar that were talking about the pope said that there's two possible popes, because they left Mike's house and they came to to my place. Dude, how apropos for this today's sighting. Yeah. Continue. There's actually two popes. Nice. Yeah. I got a joke for later. Tell them if forget. 10,000 people more have crowded because they found out it was my house. Two popes in a bar that is not a joke is a crazy circumstance. Continue. So I I kinda realized in my life, if you're always the smartest guy in the room, you're in the wrong room. I kinda had to to humble myself this week. So

so I I promise that'll make That was so great. I I I kinda had to humble myself this week. Oh, I didn't kind of. I really had to. I I I love to teach. I love teaching, in many situations. I always find myself, at least trying to teach, maybe not in the right places, but I try to. And very recently, I realized that I rarely submit myself to be taught. And I rarely find myself submitting to be,

the student. And I find that going on more and more recently. I I I teach for a living. That's my job, and I I I find myself loving it. I do it a lot. But like I said, I find myself not very often submitting myself to be the student. And and obviously, I saw a huge problem with that this week. I saw a huge problem with the fact that that I'm perfectly willing to put myself above, not necessarily in in like a societal stature, but I put myself above people to be able to teach them. But I don't humble myself enough, to sit down and say, don't know. I do not know. And I need to just back up and shut up.

And and that is difficult for me. I've I I talk way too much. I put myself out as a very knowledgeable person way too much when I don't know a lot of stuff. And I really had to humble myself this week. It was awful. I I hated it the whole time I was doing it, I felt like I was letting people down. But, I know that it was better for the people around me, and I know that it was better for myself to just submit myself to be taught and to learn from it. And especially when it comes to my relationship with Christ, I try and surround myself with people that that I can learn from because of the fact that I'm definitely not the pinnacle, and I never will be. And at all times in my life, need to be learning. And at all times in my life, there's always going to be someone I can learn more from. And I wanna get a head start on that. And I wanna get a head start at 22 years old on the concept of I never want to be always the right guy. I wanna be the person who is able to be taught.

And and I really drew from that last week or two. So it like goes back to if you find yourself always as as as the smartest person there, leave. Find yourself to be the person who can be taught. Find yourself to be the student because it's so beneficial in life to always be learning, and it's so beneficial in in your walk with Christ to surround yourself with people that are further in their walk so that you can learn what it is at least to be a little bit further in the walk. Not necessarily surrounding yourself with perfect people and never deifying the people around you, but always knowing that there's something that they're doing that's better than you. And take that with the way that you can learn from that to become more of a Christ like man, and be become more of a a man after God's own heart who fears the Lord.

So that's my pope style this week. Herrick, did you have thoughts on that? Your eyebrows said I might have thoughts. I was just thinking, man, maybe I should leave the room. So this is me announcing that I'm leaving the show now. Obviously I started my own show.

I've been here as the smartest person in this room for years. Political problems with booba and Dan. It's been years, and it's been fun, but I gotta find another crowd that I can learn from. Okay? You know, there's there's a there's a deceit in that where, like, you get to the point where you're like, where you're you're basically following your advice. You're I'm gonna learn from other people. But, like, there's sometimes a deceit where you feel like what you mean by learning from other people is sitting as they talk and you agreeing with them as like a colleague. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a there's a level of and and you see that a lot in in professional development stuff and probably in the past where you're like, you get to a point and you're just like, yeah. Yeah. No. I agree with that guy. I've had that same experience where it's still about you. Like, it's still about what that guy's saying is about, you know, your experience, and he's agreeing with your life as opposed to you actually, like, submitting humbly to someone who's doing something that you're not doing.

And it may it may not be the way that you do it, and it may be in a totally different thing than what you're up to, but, like, God can do both. And it's interesting, like, when your mind is willing to open up and say, hey, man. I I'm doing this thing this way. That guy's doing something crazy different, but the Holy Spirit rocks and he'll do what he wants to do and be able to take that in, and and actually submit to the to the the power of the Holy Spirit that can do that. Like, that's an awesome perspective on life that sometimes we miss because even the risk becomes first of all, doing what you're talking about. And then second of all, like, the method in which you do that sometimes isn't actually really like submitting to someone else teaching. You just should be like, oh, yeah. We're the same still. And and it's funny to say this because this is what you do when you're when you guys are on the radio, you're about the next thing to say. Uh-huh. But it's kinda like that little comic strip. Have ever seen it where, you know, people are sitting around at a computer watching a YouTube video? And the entire time everybody else is like, oh, yeah. I got this one. I got this one. Oh, yeah. That's what I can say. It's kind of like that whole thing. It's like in every conversation, if that's what you're thinking

is like, Okay, I'm going say something right after that. Know I got something to add here. Yep. But I think that's the next level of that is living complete silence inside. Yeah. You know, to say, okay. You've got something I I feel like I'm there. Yeah. Alright. It's all kinda blank.

Every every fruitless conversation I've had with my wife is because I was intent on me making sure that what I had to say was heard. Now here's the deal. If I thought of it, 50% of the world has heard it. It like, within that world, 50% has heard it. That's pretty good odds. I should let that go. You know I'm saying? Like, half of us understand what I'm saying. I feel like that's pretty good. What's what's the retention rate on spoken word? 10? Mhmm. I'm awesome. I've gotta learn to let that go and not be like, no. No. She needs to understand me. Alright. That's good advice, boo. Mike, you got some dear life from the path? Okay. Ready? Dear life from the path. I got time for, like, two. Okay. I accepted a request from my brother to watch his cats while he was across the country for a few months. This is good. During that time, one of them matured and started marking his territory all over my house. The dilemma was quickly taken care of with a trip to the vet after permission from my brother. My brother now insists that because I accepted responsibility for the cats in every way in his absence that I shouldn't expect reimbursement for professional

carpet cleaner I rented or the vet bill I paid for neutering the cat. Am I in a line to expect to be paid back? We have agreed to abide by your response. Your brother's a cheapskate. Yeah. I mean, brother's a stuck. Yeah. Seriously. I'm actually with Buva. You're stuck, and but the worst scenario is the fact that your brother's a cheapskate. Yeah. I'm I think I'm with Buva. He's not only a cheapskate. He's he's a legit schmuck. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man. You respected or you you you inherited financial responsibility of my cat when you took care of it. I'm not gonna reimburse you for anything. What kind of jerk says that? That's like me dropping my kids off at my mom's house. And then they steal her car running into a fence. I'm like, sorry, ma. You wanted to babysit the kids. This is what comes with it. Destruction. Yeah. No. Your brother's ridiculous.

Okay. Let me maybe save some time. Is anybody pro brother? Has anybody fallen inside of no. That sounds reasonable. Dan, if you're about to say anything besides no. No. No. No. This is ridiculous. Okay. Let's see if, Secular has some heart for him. For first of all, we gotta give her some advice. Take the cats to the vet and bill it to him.

The the the room and board. What do you call that when you you board a dog? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give him your brother's name and address. Yeah. Yeah. I'm done with your cat. Pick him up in the vet. It'll be very pricey. I'd say, hey. If you're not gonna be home, we'll just leave him at your place. I'll feed him. And that's it. And I'll I know I know a good carpet cleaner. You're gonna need it. Here we go. It says, dear Singular says, tell your brother to start writing the check now. If he'd had to board his cats while he was of town, it would have cost him a lot more. You were kind to help him out, and he should be ashamed of himself for trying to stiff you. Hiss. Oh, it's Oh. Oh, man. That's that's rough. Okay. Here we go. Dear life from the path. My sister-in-law is in a barbershop quartet. While I appreciate the artistic effort of what she does, listening to it pours me, and I don't enjoy it. I feel like I must go to her recitals because she makes a point of inviting me inviting my husband and me. I have an ethical dilemma. Should I be honest with her and say I don't enjoy sitting through two to three hours of acapella's tunes? Or should I be true to myself

and admit I'd rather stay home and catch up on my reading? What would you do? Life from the path? Hello. Hello. My wild eye Okay. Hey. So We're one hour and fifty nine and a half minutes until a full concert. Actually, that's what I thought.

Oh, so go ahead. I I I was just saying that's what I thought. Two to three hours of barbershop quartet is enough for anybody. She needs to get over herself. Every parent goes to 4,900 concerts that are really poor. You know, you never go to an elementary school band concert because it's like quality or choir concert or drama. It's because someone in the comment section is gonna win halfway through. Though? This is growing up. Says, yeah. It's growing up though. Right? Yeah. But but still, I'm just saying life is filled with sometimes you just do things. That's that sacrifice. You you what did you say earlier? That was pretty clever. The love thing. Love is measured by sacrifice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's like, you love this person or not? So this has happened, like, once every two, three weeks.

That's ridiculous. I'm not going through two or three hours of Barber Shop Court. I mean, two weeks. Concert that I used to be a part of. It was an annual Okay. Yeah. But once a year, I can see myself. Okay. Fine. I'll go sit through this for two There a year. If she's like, yeah. We go and meet at the at the local nursery center, like, two every two or three weeks. You wanna come to all of them for the next couple years? No. Absolutely not. I'm gonna tell you, hey, you know, I appreciate where you're coming from. I just I'll come to a couple, but You know what? You're not being fair here, though. Because, like, you look at the person that has to go to these barbershop quartet concerts and go, stop being so selfish. Go to these things. Right? Except for the guy that's inviting you constantly to go to boring concerts. Why isn't that guy being selfish? It's like me inviting you to me building card houses all the time. I mean, how long you wanna watch me sit there for five hours in the now? I

I feel like that's it's just as selfish to continue to invite people to boring things. I feel like once a year I can handle it. What? It's every month. Monthly. That is too much. Too much. Can't do it. Yeah. Every two months. Would want My love knows no bounds except for monthly. I'm a do it once a year. This person needs to get over themselves except for if it's every month because that's how we If I'm being honest and I have to prioritize my time to every month to make sure that I I make time for two to three hours of barbershop quartet. I don't no. What take can you take your book? Is she gonna see you from the stage? It's usually dark. You're still hearing it? Well, I don't know if it's it's grating to my ears. It's just more like it takes up the sheer amount of time. I wouldn't go to things that I enjoy for three hours every month. Yeah. You know, I don't have time for that. What's wrong with just being honest and saying, hey. I don't terribly enjoy it, but I'll go for you? Once a year. Once a year. But she wants to get out of it, though, Herrick. Like, it's not being honest about if she's gonna be honest, she might as well be honest and not go. If she wants an out, she needs to be honest and not go. She says a childish way of saying it. But it ain't even about me. What about me? It's like I'm bored. Okay? I should be true to myself. Yeah. I

am not barbershop to the core. Are there any other ways I could fit myself I into this don't see. I don't I see. I I think I would just say, look. I can't go to any more of these things. I don't care for it. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Hey. You wanna come out to like, take an adult take adults. Right? Let's say someone came up and said, hey, man. We play softball weekly. You wanna come out and check the games for the season? No. Like, I might swing by. I'll I'll try to get to one. Mhmm. But, like, no. I'm not coming out for the season. Got another come out and watch your grown man softball? There's stuff going on. Actually, I'd like to play softball, but I I could commit to, like, one. That's where I can commit. And, like, past that, I don't hate you. I just can't make it. Yeah. Go. Okay. So what what what what's our advice on how to get out of this barbershop? Yeah. I think here's what I think you do. First of all, I think I think you say, hey. Just to throw it out there, I don't really enjoy barbershop. I mean, I don't really care for it. It's not my thing is usually less offensive.

Well, what what what do mean it's not my thing? Yeah. Why not? It's your thing. Do what you wanna do. Exactly. I can't do it. Okay. Jared, do you have experience in people telling you they don't wanna come and see your barbershop quartet? It's the Society of the Preservation and Encouragement

of the Barbershop Quartet Singing in America. Exactly. It's EBS USA. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I am a member. We've we've bought out Hancock fabrics of every striped piece of cloth I had. Look how strong happy Doris.

I punched two World War two reenactment nurses just to get the last bit. Okay. Yeah. Let's I mean, let's boil this down to you some more. Yes. Tell the truth. Some broad, broad sweeping advice. Just say, like, here's the deal. You should go to one. Go to one. Yeah. If it's every month, that's too much. If if one is suffice, say, look. That was great. I probably can't make the next one, but I'm I'm proud of you. You're doing a great job. Done. Right? I still love on you. I I can't make it or I don't wanna make I'm not coming. No. I would say I that if you can't, that's a lie. Say, I'm I I don't think I'll make it. That's true. Okay. Yeah. I don't think I will. But then if you show up and she knows you hate barbershop, she'll know you're there for her. Good. Mhmm. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Even better. I like it. Yeah. What's secular got? Secular says, I'd try to be tactful. Instead of saying you would rather stay home and catch up on your reading, say instead that you have different taste in music. Oh, yeah. That's a veiled non offensive thing to say. Hi, family, who I grew up with. True. I have different tastes. I hate that you would like to participate in vomit music, and I'm gonna go home and do my thing because you're terrible. That's what that sounds like. Vomit music? Here's the thing. People people smell placation, and it's insulting. True. It just is. It's insulting to say that. Just say, I don't wanna come to this concert. That's honest. It's got worse too because, like, we we are a society that's getting used to being advertised to. Right? It's like we're used to people telling us things either true or not true, either about ourselves or about society around you. And, like, I I I think people just aren't they're not they're not standing for it anymore. But we're also the the same society that lets people go go on to American Idol and to look at who can't sing and not be honest. I didn't ask me. I I know. Call me at home. I'll tell you what you think about. It's back to the honesty piece. I mean, that that is I mean, yeah. You do a great job and you guys sound good, but I really and that's not the kind of music that I listen to, and I and I don't really yeah. You may or may not sound good. Hate it. I just feel like, you know, I think I think Ben's right, though. Like, with the level advertising, we look back twenty years ago, there was a guy with six pack abs running down the beach smoking a pack of Newport's. Everyone knows that that doesn't happen. The guy that smokes a pack of Newport's is sitting there on the lawn chair watching the guy go by. And so, like Twenty years ago, you thought, yeah, that could be me. Yeah. That could be me. Look how wide his teeth are, he's got a hot woman, and he's running down the beach smoking a pack of cigarettes. You know what saying? Get this prescription. Do I get a puppy?

That's outrageous. You know? But but, like, that's I think that's the truth. In a highly advertised society, you could smell placation. It's it's exactly why, like, we I have a hard time finding youth material for the youth group because they're so they they can smell when they're being advertised to because they're advertised to so much. And, like, they can smell it coming a mile away. So as soon as you even take what you wanted to say and put it in a twentieth or a twenty first century font, they're like, woah. I call foul on you. You're trying to trick me. You're trying to get down on my level, and I don't like it. Yeah. I find you very suspicious. The fourth wall of advertising is gone. People recognize tactics. Right? Like, oh, red. That's supposed to draw me in. Because they the news now does stories on how people are advertised to. So, like, that fourth wall is gone, and people don't they they want information, and they accept advertising invading into their lives, but they wanna act like they're not influenced by it or they're or that they're at least suspicious of it. So, like, you end up advertising in nefarious ways, like social networking. Anyway, here's what Segular says. Segular says,

be tactful. Instead of saying you would rather stay home and catch up on your reading, say instead you have a different taste in music than she does or that you have other plans. If this would make you feel guilty, consider putting in an appearance every once in a while. Yeah. Okay. We live in a society where Secular says, if lying makes you feel guilty, there's an alternative. They have to say that. That makes me that's ridiculous.

Lying should make you feel guilty because you told lies. Yes. But the fact that she's saying if you feel guilty about lying and not just assuming that you would. Why is honesty an alternate lifestyle? Style? Well, it gets you in trouble. People don't like that. Hey, man. Your nose is big. That hurts your opinion. Yeah. You want me to act like I didn't see it? Yeah. It's due to your ethnicity. Woah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You can't Who does that? Yeah. You can't do it. Nobody. I'll do it. My daughter does. But

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