Live From The Path · Season 2015, Episode 37
27 Ways to Be a Modern Man
Topics covered
- Modern manhood and the urban gentleman — The hosts judge the NYT's '27 ways to be a modern man' against their own 'urban gentleman' ideal: honest, unpretentious, doing things the right way. ≈ 1:07
- Trusting God with outcomes — Stop plotting the means; obey, wait, and let God handle the ends – illustrated by the Burger King gift cards and Mike's undiagnosable car. ≈ 5:34
- Skepticism of science claims about faith — The hosts pick apart a study claiming transcranial magnets can alter belief in God and immigration attitudes, faulting its questionnaires, placebo risk, and premises. ≈ 40:41
- Dating rules for teens — How much freedom a high-school girl dating a college boyfriend should have, and whether her parents' restrictions are reasonable. ≈ 1:01:54
- Physical affection and family grief — Whether cuddling with a parent as an adult is healthy, complicated by grief, loss, and a fiance's family's disapproval. ≈ 1:13:53
Segments
- Show open and studio banter 0:01–1:07
A produced opening runs ('from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper'), and the main host welcomes listeners with the night's lineup: a New York Times piece on the '27 ways to be a modern man,' an article on magnets and belief in God, advice for Mike, and Dear LFTP letters. The studio crew jokes about Herrick bringing in burgers, wings, and wraps before the show.
- Rundown: the modern-man list, magnet study, and Pope-style advice 1:07–5:33
The host introduces the NYT's '27 characteristics of the modern man' and frames the show's running counter-ideal, the 'urban gentleman.' He also teases the magnet-and-belief article (spinning off into magnetic bracelets and a magnetic mattress), and previews 'Pope-style' advice for Mike, whose car broke down – with a running joke about the Popemobile up on a jack.
- Burger King gift cards: sit down and let God send the guy 5:34–11:29
Ben (addressed by name in the audio) tells how $50 in Burger King gift cards sat in his pocket for six months because approaching strangers felt awkward. Sitting outside the downtown Des Moines library, he lent his phone to a homeless man who called someone asking for Burger King money, then gave him $10 in cards – and gave $10 more to a second man minutes later. His takeaway: stop plotting the delivery and obey; God handles the ends.
- The NYT's 27 ways to be a modern man, items 1-11 11:30–37:37
The hosts vote through eleven of the list's items – buying shoes for a spouse, hiding sunk confidence, theater popcorn etiquette, steak fat, parking spots, charging the family's devices, cola snobbery, proper names for things, having a daughter, drying dishes, and pinned tweets – against the 'urban gentleman' ideal, mostly disagreeing. Tangents include Dan (addressed by name) defending indiscriminate popcorn-eating and his industrial popcorn machine, The Passion of the Christ, kebab fat in the Middle East, a dog that eats underpants, and paper-towel math for a big household. They shelve the remaining sixteen items for next week.
- Sponsor: the Bob Eisenlauer real-estate team 37:39–38:42
The host thanks sponsor Bob Eisenlauer (rendered 'Bob Eisenhower' in the transcript) of the Eisenhower team, giving eisenhowerteam.com and (515) 979-2883 for home buying and selling in the area.
- Plumb concert plug via Overflow Music 38:42–40:41
The hosts plug Sunday's Plumb show (transcript: 'Plum') at the Earlham high school, with tickets through Overflow Music, and argue that fans must support touring acts or the shows stop coming. They recall Overflow's earlier Building 429 show with Tim Timmons and the Rhett Walker Band.
- Can magnets zap your belief in God? 40:41–51:00
A host reads the NYT piece on Holbrook et al.'s study claiming transcranial magnetic stimulation reduced belief in God by nearly a third and softened immigration attitudes by 28.5 percent. The group attacks the study's Likert-scale questionnaires, expectation and placebo effects, and the premise that belief is a disease to cure; one argues the same pacifying effect could come from a lobotomy, and Andrew (named on-air) makes the case the knowledge is being used for the wrong ends. Jokes about MRIs, magnet soup, and Iron Man close it out.
- Mike's car won't break down so he can fix it 51:01–1:00:01
Mike (addressed by name on-air) brings his dilemma: a 200,000-mile loaner car that stranded a borrower twice, got an expensive new part, stranded the borrower again, then drove 45 minutes home for Mike without a hiccup – leaving him wanting it to fail so he can diagnose it. The hosts reframe it as a control problem: 'faithful in the means, God handles the ends,' and you don't get to know. Ben adds his own week driving Mike's decrepit truck – bad taillight, flat tire, rigged seatbelt – and choosing to stop fearing the traffic stop. Includes the Aaron-prays-for-a-sword joke.
- Radio sign-off and the student-run station 1:00:01–1:01:53
The host signs off the Truth Network 99.3 FM broadcast, sending radio listeners out with 'Thunder Chicken' by the Imperials while the podcast continues. He then tells of a student-run Drake station that followed a funk tune with Mexican greatest hits, and explains why he can't trust music without a bass player – recalling his own days playing electric bass, amp dragged onto the field, in marching band.
- Dear LFTP: is four hours a week enough for dating Colton? 1:01:54–1:13:53
A host reads a letter from a high-school girl six months into dating Colton, a year and a half older and just starting college; her parents limit them to one group date a week under four hours, and she finds the rule too rigid. Most hosts side with the parents until they realize the four hours is per week, not per date. The 'secular answer' says prioritize grades and adjust case by case; the hosts then riff on college-debt culture, float a mini-golf business idea, and detour through grocery-shopping impulses and a dog that messed on a laptop.
- Dear LFTP: cuddling with mom at nearly 30 1:13:53–1:21:33
A host reads a letter from a woman near 30 whose fiance and his family think she needs professional help because she still cuddles with her mom – a European-born woman who lost her whole immediate family to cancer, with whom the writer did in-home hospice. One host (addressed as 'Bubba') dissents from the group's easy 'it's fine,' sharing that at 18, after his dad died, he told his own mom he couldn't be her late husband's physical replacement. The 'secular answer' sides with treasuring the closeness; the hosts conclude the fiance and his family are handling it wrong.
- Sign-off 1:21:33–1:21:52
A quick close with the 'faithful in the means' callback and a see-you-next-week.
Bible references
- Galatians 5:22-23
It's the same conversation as the fruits of the spirit. When they say the fruits of the spirit, all of these things equal fruits of the spirit
- Exodus
And Aaron prayed to the Lord God, and he said, give me a sword. I will free the people from Egypt.
Key questions
- Should the parents relax their rule of one four-hour group date per week for their daughter and Colton? (dear-lftp)
- Does a woman approaching 30 need professional help because she still cuddles with her mom? (dear-lftp)
- Why does Mike's car run fine for him but break down for borrowers, and why won't God reveal what's wrong with it? (host-framed)
- Can transcranial magnetic stimulation change belief in God and attitudes toward immigrants? (host-framed)
- Do the hosts agree with the New York Times' '27 ways to be a modern man'? (host-framed)
People
- Ben
- Mike
- Dan
- Dave Herrick
- Andrew Carson
- Colton
- Colin Holbrook
- Bob Eisenlauer
- Plumb
- Tim Timmons
- Rhett Walker
- Building 429
- The Imperials
- Aaron
Full transcript
Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. You are live from the Pathway
I get things done. Work for the holy ghost. Work for the sun. And you're listening to live from the bath company from the… What? What? Who? Who there? What happened? Who there? Wait a minute. See, things are done.
Things are over. Flat out. That's the deal. You're listening to live from the path. It's gonna be hanging out with you tonight. Here's what we got going on the show. Hey, there was an article in… What is that? Dan. I can hear you wiping your face. Herrick has made the mistake of bringing in burgers and wings
and And wraps. And wraps. And they're delicious. It's not a mistake. I feel like this is gonna be a problem. Hey, man. That buffalo wrap was spicy. Yeah. Was. Anyway, here's what I got going on the show tonight. So there was an article in the New York Times. I wanna say it was, like, last week or maybe the week before, and it's… What… It was the 27 characteristics of the modern man. Did anybody anybody happen to read that? Hey. No. Let me ask you a question. 27… No. 27 ways to be a modern man. I feel like you're perpetuating I feel like you're perpetuating us counting everything. Like, world has switched over to counting everything, and you're only perpetuating it. What do mean? I… That's how they wrote the article. I didn't call them up and say, hey. Could you put a count on When's the last time you brought up an article that didn't have a number in it of, like, here's x number of ways to do x? Yeah. Because it's much harder to read and comment on a whole blob of crap hole that someone decided to talk about. But if I can, like, point one, you suck. Moving on. Like, that's way easier for conversation point. That and people do this kind of orcs… Articles all the time because you know when the end is. It's immediate. Like, you know exactly… Is that why people do that? I mean, if you if you read something that's just, here's what it's like to be a modern man. You're gonna keep reading through and keep reading through. You don't know what your points are. But if you hear… Here's the 15 points of what a modern man looks like. Hold on. You can read it. If you read through that article is so poorly written that no one could tell how to be a modern man without numbers. I need to distinguish between three and eight.
Yeah. That… It's you know why? It's because people wanna customize how they are or are not a modern man based on bullet points. Like, like, I'm pointing out of the number points. Yeah. That's the thing. It's it's it's it's same conversation as the fruits of the spirit. When they say the fruits of the spirit, all of these things equal fruits of the spirit, where other people like to pick out the one that they are and the ones that they're not. I'm number four. I'm number four. Anyway, we're gonna talk in general about a blob of information about ways to be modern man. It sounds interesting, Vince. It's very modern. See if we agree with that.
Also, there was a, I read an article about scientists who claimed that zapping brains with magnets can treat your belief in God. Anyway I had a guy actually talk to me about that a couple years ago. He was all pumped about it. Wait. Wait. So Well, I mean, just about being zapped by magnets. I mean, I don't know about It didn't have anything to do with your religion. It really didn't have anything to with God, just just just mental health. I'm like, oh. Anyway… Hey. What… Isn't that the same theory that people used to wear that magnet bracelets or whatever? It used to help them with wrist ionization or something? Yeah.
I don't shop on the Internet, Mike. I don't know. 1595, they said my whole life would change. My PS three skills would improve. I feel like you're referencing this theory that it might not be in the common knowledge of the It's like it's like the golfers used to wear them. You know? They're like they're like some kind of bracelet with a magnet in it, and it was supposed to be good for your wrist. You guys don't hang out with a bunch of golfers? I remember those. My my mom bought a magnetic mattress.
Oh, really? She she used to read those things. Yeah. Sorry. I thought it was fairly She wore a metal shirt so she couldn't leave. Magnetic. Magnetic, but it didn't help. Magnetic mattress sounds like something to cure sleepwalking. It was incredibly…
It it was like… If you wear iron pants… Right. It was like sleeping wear marbles. You wear a shirt that has some kind of metal in it and it keeps keeps you down. You know what cures sleepwalking? Not sleeping because you're wearing iron pants. I never said it was comfortable, Foust. That's tricky. Alright.
Yeah. Anyway, Mike's also got some advice on dear life in the path or… And some potential Pope style. Mike, you still thinking through that Pope style? Yeah. Here's the deal. My car broke down, and now it won't do it again. And for some reason, I have a… I'm having… I'm struggling with this somehow, and I feel like feel like God's trying to have at me for some reason, and I can't figure out why. You're you're saying you want your car to break down? Well, at the the… Yeah. That's where the pope's advice comes. It comes leaching in. I'm not sure I wanna take advice from you. I wanted to break down. Okay. Tricky. Alright. So that's the pope style advice for Mike who has been, I don't know, misunderstood,
and people believe that he may be the pope. Hey. I don't think the pope ever fixes his car. No. That's… They did…. Swap… It'd be kinda funny. Do they have more than one? Oh, yeah. They had to be a bit under the hood. Yeah. There's gotta be one of them that runs better. You know, they're like, where's where's pope a? Yeah. Give me the popemobile a. If it's a… Air doesn't work right or something or it rides funny. I'll have to check on that, fellas. I I I now I now want to see the Popemobile jacked up and then the Pope underneath it working on it. With, like, spinning rims and and that sort of thing jacked up or… No. It's in up up on a jack. Oh, okay. Alright. What? That's a lot less… No. You're not wanting up on some kind of suspension. I wanna see it tripped out. You're you're not as street as Eric. I'm not. I need a lift kit on the Popemobile. Hey. So speaking of
speaking of odd stuff, so, like, I've had for the last probably six months, I've had $50 in Burger King gift cards sitting in my in my pocket. And you've never given them to me? No. No. They were for homeless dudes. Okay? And… But I had the I had the hardest time, like… They just seem like such awkward interactions for me just to, like, walk up to somebody and be like, hey. Like, it's like I'm trying to sell knockoff Ray Bans, except for I'm giving away Eats gift certificates.
And so these have been just been sitting in my bag and and a few in my wallet trying to figure out a place to do with this. And so last Friday, I was at work, and I thought, this is ridiculous. There's people that need food, like, that are hungry, and I'm too much of a pansy just to go see if they want this gift card. This is the… This is why the kingdom doesn't grow. It's this type of stuff right now. This sounds like my evangelism strategy so far. Yeah. Like, you know, maybe I wouldn't bring it up, and maybe they'll just kinda run into this secure carded business that I'm in and demand to see if anybody has any gift card. And so I left. That would never happen. So I decide here's what I'm gonna do. I I go out and I get some coffee and I just sit right outside the library in Downtown Des Moines. I'm just sitting there, leaning up against the library. I wasn't there more than two minutes, and some dude comes rolling up. It's a… I get… Obviously a a homeless dude. He's got, like, a pair of glasses on with a big crack in one of the lenses. His bike is chained up over to a bench somewhere, and he says, look, hey, man. Can I borrow your phone for a minute? I really need to make a phone call. I said, what's the number? I dialed the number for him, and then I handed him the phone. I said, look. Know, if it… If this needs to be a private conversation, I see that your bike's chained up, so I'm pretty sure I could catch you if you made a run for it. So, you know, you feel free to step away. And he goes, no. No. No. That's alright. So he's standing within feet of me, and he goes, hey. So and so, this is… And then he gave his name. And then he said, hey. Look. I'm really sorry about last night. I'm not calling to cause any trouble or anything, but I'm really, really hungry.
I was wondering if I could swing by and if you could give me just a few bucks for Burger King. I've been outside since, like, a couple days ago. I… As you said, slept outside last night, and I haven't eaten in a long time. And I was I was wondering if I could just come by. And it sounds like the answer was yes, that they would come by and give them these gift cards for Burger King. And I'm still listening to this conversation like, okay. Okay, Jesus. And so he gets off the phone, and I kinda looked at him. I said, hey, man.
Do you believe in do you believe in Jesus? Are you a Jesus man? And he goes, Jesus died for me. He died for everybody. I said, okay. I said, well, I don't know much, fella, but do know that he wants you to have these because these are sitting in my pocket waiting for someone who needs them from the Burger King. And here's $10 in in Burger King gift cards. And and he he just looked at me for a second, and and you could see just, a little tear come out of the bottom of his eye, and I thought, what what is the deal? I've been sitting on stuff for six months. Six months, God sends a hungry man for two minutes. When I finally said, I don't know what to do, Jesus. I'm just gonna sit here for a minute. And he sends the guy over to pick up the cards. Like, I'm plotting on how I'm gonna deliver the thing, what types of things I might say, how I bring it up, and God really wanted me to just sit there for a minute. He said, I will send someone to relieve you of them. You don't even have to do anything except own a phone, and I will handle it. And frankly, I didn't even have to own the phone. I could have just said, let's say I didn't have one. It's like, no. I don't have a phone, but I do have $10 in gift cards. Are you hungry? Like, easy easy stuff. So so he he he walks away. He takes the cards with him. I was there for another three minutes. I was listening to last week's show to make sure it wasn't terrible.
And so this other guy rides up on a bike, sits down, and starts smoking next to me. And I thought, you could tell by the guy. I thought he was… He had two more coats on than he needed, was really protective on where his bike was at. I thought, okay. This this guy doesn't have a place to live And, I thought, oh, shoot. I'm gonna have to initiate a conversation here because God is just sending people in. And I sat there for a few minutes, I couldn't think of anything. I don't know how to deal with people. Right? I can pet a dog. That's my… Extend my my social skills. And so I got up, and I looked over at the guy, and I said, hey. Look. I've I've $10 in in Burger King gift cards. Could you use them? And he's like, I could definitely use them. I said, Yeah. And I took my $10, and I gave it to him, and then I went back to work, that was it. And then I've probably been thinking of that story for three days thinking,
I I don't know how… What God has to do to remind me that he will handle things. Right? Like, whatever plotting and and and, I don't know, divination that I think is gonna go on that I'm gonna set something straight, and and there's these things burning a hole in my pocket and say, god, I don't know how to deal with people. And and in the end, he says, you don't know how how to have to deal with people. You need to know how to deal with me. And so if you have a burden for something that I have you doing, you just need to, obey. And if you don't know what else to do, then you sit and wait for me to do it. And then it will… Things will just open up for you. And that's exactly what has happened. I just sat down and God sent guys who said keywords Burger King and hungry within a few feet of me, and then I had stuff to give away. And so I I… But long story short, the reason I the reason I was telling that is is what, a, I feel like God is cool in that story, and I am lame, which is the right balance of how things should be going. And, second of all, I I feel like there's there's tons of things in life where you're like, I I… God has given me a heart to do x y z, and I don't know how to do it. And and the right reaction is, yes, indeed. Now you just need to shut up for a while. Like, you need to kinda stop plotting. If you feel like you can't think of anything, God may be suppressing it because whatever it is that you're thinking is stupid. And just hang… I mean, if if you trust God, I feel like he'll handle this thing. And this was a six month problem that I had that completely resolved itself if I just sat down and said, I'm… Are giving away today. What will God do? And he he straight up did it. Anyway, that that weird stuff you all were talking about reminded me of that story. I was pretty excited about it.
Does that ever happen to anybody else? That only happens to me. I don't know to I don't know if I follow-up that story. I'm just gonna sit here and be quiet and wait for the Lord to fix it. Alright. Alright. Keep waiting. Short of interesting dialogue. Why don't you trust the Lord?
So so here are the 27 ways. There's a New York Times article, 27 ways 27 ways to be a modern man. And so let's let let… I just wanna see if you guys agree with these. And there's been some confusion on the net about whether these are legitimate items or not. So let's just take a look. Is this where you, like, hold doors open for ladies and stuff? I'm certain of it. It's gotta have that. No. I I don't think so. Yep. I don't think so. It'll have to What did we call it, though? The urban gentleman. Urban gentleman. Yeah. Okay. Let's see let's see if the New York Times modern man has any resemblance to an urban gentleman. That that… That's probably the question of the day. Alright. Here we go. Being a modern man today is no different than it was a century ago. It's all about adhering to principle. Sure. Fashion technology and architecture change over time as do standards of etiquette, not to mention ways of carrying oneself in the public sphere. But the modern man will take the bits from the past that strike him as relevant and blend them with all the stuff of today. Alright. Here we go. Number one, when the modern man buys shoes for his spouse, he doesn't have to ask her sister for the size, and he knows which brands run, big or small. What? It's ridiculous.
That's… Knowing your wife's shoe size? No. I mean, I I can tell my wife, he'll go get me a thirteen, and it'll happen. My wife can try on seven shoes that are the same size they may or may not fit. They're just different. Yeah. Here's the deal. I think it's a fool's parade to try to buy your wife's shoes. Is that wrong? Is that is that unmanly and uncaring? Because I feel like that's just foolish. Here's the deal. I just found out that they… The lady's shoe sizes are not in the same place as mine. Like, it's on the side. It's not on the it's not on the tongue where where ours is. I literally just found that out. I know. Are you saying that? Like, I'm just I thought I'm in a different part of the store. No. No. No. Yeah. That… That's that's what blew me away. You just figured that out? I thought you're saying lady shoes were in a different section too.
Me and the lady went to Goodwill date night where like I I got to go and like like the budget was $10 and I got to pick out her outfit, you know? That's fun. And I I reserved my judgment based on what she got me. I'm like, if you make me look a fool, then I am prepared with one foolish outfit. If you do not make me look a fool, I have a very beautiful ensemble that I think you will look nice in. And so she she went the fool route. But, anyway, I'm looking at the shoes. Right? I'm like, there are no sizes on these shoes. How do ladies even know? Is this some kinda, you know, some kinda, you know, esteem thing where they don't wanna tell the real size or something? You know, I'm like, stupid women's shoes. Well, it turns out it's on the side. It's like on the inside arch, and that's where they put it, not on the tongue. So heads up for for dudes looking for shoes for ladies. Thanks, Mike. I literally did not know that. That's no problem. So what's the thought then? Is that… We feel like to be a modern man, this is unnecessary? Dave Herrick, did you have something? I'm just astounded that a woman would actually let a man buy some sort of accessory or apparel for them. I mean, that… This sounds outrageous. Yeah. The guy says, oh, that's a sandal. And the girls has, like, 12 different variations of Right. Unlike… And she might say, hey, can you get me a brown shoe? And the guy's gonna come back with something very practical, but it's nothing like what she wants. I was corrected last month on the fact that black does not match everything. Correct. I feel like I'm not the right person to go out and buy shoes from a lady. Yeah. No. Yeah. I I would agree. I I I feel like this is unnecessary. I I mean, may be something… Like, if your dude were to show up with some kind of sweet shoe, I mean, was right on. I'm sure that would be impressive at the time that he he knows you that well. But I feel like of all the things that the modern man is failing to provide, the the the absence of him being able to pick out an appropriate shoe and size
would be low on my list of things to do to impress your lady. This… Besides, isn't it usually kind of a therapeutic thing for women to go buy shoes? I mean, that's… Like, they enjoy that one. I mean, I mean, it is… It would be nice, like, if if if you had the ability, and this is an uncanny ability that I don't know that more than one man in this world possesses, to show up with a shoe that is the correct size and actually something that she likes. Like, if you could pull that off, that does have a lot of whiz bang to it. But I feel like, I mean, you… I mean, the odds are gonna be astronomical that you're gonna do this right. I I I think this is a pretty good sign that we're archaic, man. Okay. Either that or we're about Just going by number one. Yeah. Have points. So far. Are not a modern man. I'm gonna vote nay on that one, man. What number one? Nay. Okay. Alright. That's a no. Alright. We're we're traditional men. That's right. Number two, the modern man never lets other people know when his confidence has sunk. He acts as if everything is going swimmingly until it is. Is that the right posturing of the modern man? Okay.
No. Andrew did? Andrew said, yeah. I'm gonna go see on that one as well. I think people are attracted to a guy who goes, you know what? Things aren't going great. Yeah. So… People like that. So he's only got two settings. Everything's fine hunky dory, and the planet is on fire. That's pretty much it? Well, it sounds like it so far. Yeah. Okay. Fake confidence until you make it? No. Just be a dude. Alright. Never net low when his confidence is some… Well, I mean, I I don't know that you need to, you know, broadcast it for the world or anything. No. No. But but That doesn't mean you, like, fake yourself out of it. Like, you don't lie to everybody about it. There's somebody you should confide in. Yeah. I mean, there's a Nobody know. You could confide in some in some community around you Yeah. And be like, hey, man. This is a slow burning train, man. And we hear doctor… These things aren't going great. You got any ideas?
People like that. Here's the two conversations that could happen. I'm hanging out with Mike. Mike, I have no confidence. What should I do? Well, it's probably deserved. Exactly. The second conversation is, oh, man. I'm really confident about all this situation. I'm never gonna seek any help even though I definitely need it. How are you doing, Mike? That's deserved. Hey. I can answer the same either way. Hey, Philip. I could really use some help. I'm feeling low. Not now. I'm buying shoes.
Do you, by chance, know which sizes go big or small? What sizes do your wife wear? We probably have the same size feet. Okay. Wait. Wait. So so if we are to retitle then, what is the, what is the urban gentleman act? If he doesn't act like that necessarily, if we were to retitle the appropriate name as the urban gentleman, what does the urban gentleman do? I think he just acts honest. Yeah. And here, like, that's not… It's not as easy as most think. Right? Because dudes, will tend to overdo the situation. Right? Like, I will be find… You can find me doing this when I'm ill. When I have some type of small cold or cough season,
I will sell it as if death itself has come to visit me. Yeah. And I won't realize that I'm doing it until I thought there was no reason to groan just there when I got up out of a chair. And I thought that was a bit of an oversell. You know? Like, people believe you're sick. You don't really have to pour it on like bad syrup. You know? Just kind of cough every once in while, but but we don't. Like, you know, dudes will… Or like when they're mad, they'll they'll they'll posture mad. They'll puff up way big, you know, like… And like they they tend to do emotions not in an honest way. They have to almost make them up because they don't know. They they they think that if you just lived it out how it was, it would be too boring or not have the effect. And so they puff it up full of stuff that doesn't exist and make it outrageous. And so I think the, the urban gentleman just just… I mean, acts honestly. Just has an honest representation
of what's going on. I think that's, respectable. Yeah. The urban gentleman has confidence in Christ, but that doesn't mean he can't be, you know, honest with, with his community. Alright. Alright. That's the urban gentleman. Alright. The urban man's a fake. Yeah. He fakes it till he makes it. Which is a ridiculous thing. So so here's the deal. So the modern man then kinda screws the other modern man. Yeah. Because he acted like things are swimmingly and probably gives advice and counsel and things based upon as if things are great. But if things are not great, then maybe I should ignore your freaking advice. Yeah. Because you're not very handy. Mhmm. And so, I don't It's a bit it's a bit of a social media culture. Right? Things are great. I should do the things they do because his life is good. But if the modern man… If I come up and try to tell my my woes to my modern man friend and he's like, but things are great in my life. I think, well, maybe I should be more like him, and I end up in the dumps like that guy. We're just both faking it. Yeah. Yeah. That's not verbatim. You're just making more fake confidence happen in the world. Yeah. The modern man is a bonehead. Yep. Alright. Number three. Lot. That's two, Ben. That's a… I'm a nail number two as well. Number three. Reason we disagree disagree with with that. That. From the New York Times, 27 ways to be modern man. Number three, the modern man is considerate. At the movie theater, he won't munch down on a mouthful of popcorn during a quiet moment. He waits for some ruckus. I'm on board with that, actually. Yeah. That's true. Totally on board with that. Yeah. Sure. You you won't stop me from eating my popcorn.
Wait. Wait. Dan, is the real barrier that you don't recognize a moment of consequence? I like I like popcorn. That's okay. I paid good money for that popcorn. You are a tank, dude. You paid $10 to get in a movie, and you basically stare at the popcorn. I care less what the movie is. I'm like, hey. More hour and a half I've spent in the last month. Dan, you want I want a ticket to the seven fifteen popcorn show. Hold on. Dan, you own an industrial popcorn machine.
I told you I like popcorn. If there's anyone who can have popcorn anytime, if you… It's well used. Hey, hon. Do you wanna go out and eat popcorn tonight or should we stay here? Well, let's go out. We've done that. Let's go to the theater, buy popcorn, and not go watch a movie. I actually was a… Like, we were just at the movie theater last week. And the dude sells me likes to some kinda, I mean, jumbotron of of popcorn, you know, and he's like, free refills.
I said, are you kidding me? There's like five gallon of popcorn here. He goes, I said, do people actually come out and get a refill of the thing? He goes, happens every once in while when people buy it in a group. I said, well, I thought that was cheating. You know, like, you get 10 dudes that share a a a tarp of popcorn and you give them free refills. He goes, yes, it's smart way to do it. Like, was shaming me forever. You idiot. Yeah. So I I guess I thought there's no way anybody's coming out to refill this thing. It's like a trough. But it… Like, I mean, most movies these days have, like, loud ruckus… They're, like, entirely loud ruckus things, and there's no quiet moments whatsoever, so it doesn't really matter. Except for Twilight. Do you evaluate movies by how much ruckus is going on in the… I like to eat my popcorn indiscriminately. Can you give me a ruckus movie? Because it's like… Well, could… There's like, you you know, like… You know, I work next to a movie theater, so it's like half the movies out there are like, oh, that's gonna blow something up or have a giant war or race some cars around. And popcorn eat movies. I feel like Dan's Dan's the oldest. Yeah. The the only movie I've ever not
eaten popcorn at was The Passion of the Christ. Uh-huh. And it was really weird. There was like one dude in the entire theater eating popcorn. It's like, he's sitting there getting bloodied and you're like, oh, this is a great thing. You're eating your popcorn. It just it just didn't seem right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like chewing gum right before you take communion. Something feels weird. Yeah. You can't like, oh, it was real weird. Well, they do that for me. It is kinda weird like with the passion of the crisis. Like, I, I think I usually watch it once a year. And like it hits me when I'm gonna watch. I feel like it's probably time to watch it, you know? But like, I I like five other times that year, was like, you know what? Should what? No. It's not time. Yeah. It's not time. Like, I just can't just put it in for a casual entertainment. Yeah. It just doesn't work that way. Nobody ever says, hey, man. What's your favorite movie? Go with the passion. Yeah. The passion. It doesn't happen. No. That's right. That's about about the reaction. Yep. Alright. So so we're gonna agree the modern man is is is considered. The urban gentleman, we agree, except for Dan.
He's a popcorn idiot. I'm gonna chip my popcorn whenever I want. Here we go. Number four, the modern man doesn't cut the fatty or charred bits off his fillet. Every bite of steak is a privilege, and it all goes down the hatch. Oh, I'm a loser. Agreed. I cut it all off. Completely agreed. No. No. No. No. No. Here's the deal. Is… As an urban gentleman, I feel like I get to eat my meat however I darn well please.
If I don't wanna chew it, I don't have to, like, take one for the team and chew up some kind of fatty bunch of it. No. Just need like, I'm manly. It's… And there ain't nothing manly about it. It's just delicious. You you… That's the thing is the the fat, that's where all the flavors stored when it's really hot. Flavors. It's just… If it gets cold, then you really don't want anywhere near it. But a mouthful of fat. That's it. That's what I'm saying. But it… It's it's delicious when it's hot. Ringing work. It's like two and on a… Cut off those pieces and then eat small pieces of that with the rest of the meat. Seems like a lot of work. Yeah. You're trying to cut me my steak. It's supposed to be work. Yeah. There's… You're you're saying there's good parts of steak, and you're trying to convince your buddy that this nasty fat belongs with Yeah. Like, it's the best
part. No, man. I I think I just flat out disagree, but I love that you do it. I don't think you can boss me on how to eat my steak. I think the urban gentleman has paid money for it and how I choose to to to use that is how I choose to use it. And I… Okay. I agree with that. Every gentleman does Go eat the shell of the lobster too, Mike. What? Yeah. That's the same. Fatty part of the steak or the lobster shell. Yep. Here's a I eat the lobster however I want. I bought it. I I used to cut the fat away, and then I I was off in The Middle East, and the guys took me grilling, and they'll they'll put meat on skewers, the kebab style. And they'll intentionally put just these big chunks of fat right in between. And I thought, what are you doing? This is crazy. And they're like, no. No. Trust us. When we go in The Middle East together? Yeah. They they throw it on the grill, pull it off, and and the fat's all just… I mean, it is soft. I mean, it… It's just, almost dripping. And so I've It's because it's… Grab the first piece of meat, and it's just… Okay. It's delicious because, you know, that's how it is. And then when I get to the… That first piece of fat,
and it's like the flavor just was kicked up to, like, level 11. It it was just absolutely delicious. So you've gotta try the fat hot off the grill. David, this in The Middle East with a bunch of dudes. Yes. Absolutely. David's autobiography chapter four, chewing the fat with a better one better. Alright. So so can we agree that the urban gentleman says you eat it how you please to eat it? Yeah. And if you want to influence another urban gentleman to eat it differently, more power to you. That's fair. Okay. Love it. I'll agree to that. We're in the 27 ways to be modern man by The New York Times. So far, we're in a casual disagreement. Number four… Or number five, excuse me. The modern man won't blow ten minutes of his life looking for the best parking spot. He finds a reasonable one and puts his car between the lines. I agree with that one. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Urban gentleman does the same thing. He doesn't he doesn't hunt. No. Okay. He parks the car and gets to walk open. Yeah. But legs are way more efficient in this area. I agree. Number six, before the modern man heads off to bed, he makes sure his spouse's phone and his kid's electronic devices are charging for the night.
No. No. That's that's ridiculous. Yeah. I disagree. Apparently. Hey, sweetheart. You're also an adult. Do you wanna take care of your own phone? Yes. I think mine's charging. Yeah. Mine's gotta be good. Yeah. But I mean, yeah. I mean, actually, I I think that. Chivalry's dead on the plug in. No, no. I'll check I'll check on my wife's. Right? My wife just generally charges her own phone if if she just got tired or forgot. You know, like, yeah, I can throw down on that but like, the children,
I mean, come on, man. If you want… You… Welcome to phone ownership. You gotta plug that thing in. And… They'll go… I mean, five… And they don't even have phones. Right? They have old phones with like games on them. You know? Yeah. And then they'll go somewhere, and they're like, hey, can I borrow your phone, dad? I'm like, no. You have my phone. You just didn't plug it in. So you have nothing to play. Well, that's not fair, they'll say. So what that tell… What that tells me is that they're, they're not grasping the concept of charging their own phone. Now once they do it on a consistent basis and they just forget every once in while, that's something different. But otherwise, you're enabling them to be lazy and not take care of their stuff. Yeah. It's a good way to teach kids responsibility. Yeah. Plug in your own phone. Besides that, half the time, I can't even find my own charger. Solid point. Urban gentleman
may or may not be able to find his own charger. He worries about himself. Maybe maybe takes care of… At least checks in on his wife, teaches the kid's responsibility when I plug it in. Now, see, a true urban gentleman orders like a six pack of cords as soon as the family gets phones. That's what I do. And then shows up with like, here's three. And then puts them into cars without telling anybody. They're like, yeah, there's one in your glove box. Love. That's how you do it. Yeah. Urban gentleman. I agree. Yep. That's… Yeah. That's moved to urban gentleman. Here we go. Number seven. 27 ways to be a modern man from New York Times. The modern man buys only regular colas like Coke or Doctor Pepper. If you walk into his house looking for a Mountain Dew, he'll show you the door. Yikes, man. What? Tough times. I'm with the head of Coke. Okay? I'm with I'm with him. Yep. Why do they hate Mountain Dew? Here's the deal. Mountain Dew in a can tastes like gristle, cold gristle.
That which, by the way, I like. Cold steak gristle. Drinking gristle with a better one in chapter five. Now if you can find if you can find Mountain Dew… You're not my friend anymore. You can find… That's it. We're done. If you can find Mountain Dew in a 20 ounce bottle, you, sir, have have tasted the slice of heaven that the Lord has allowed on this earth. But you try to drink it out of a can? No. No. This is so… This is unnecessarily restrictive? Yeah. Yeah. Bring your own stuff if you want your own stuff. That's It doesn't say anything about a modern gentleman bringing his own cola. You gotta get it from the guy… That guy's place. You're not gonna find any sort of soda at my house. No. Now I will do the Doctor Pepper. I… Yeah. I wouldn't call Doctor Pepper a regular cola. Doctor Pepper is like a combination of all the leftover batch of all other colas. Yeah. You just dump it all in three individual flavors. That's a man they drink. Yeah. I'm gonna agree with this one. Yep.
Never got his doctorate. Number eight, the modern man uses the proper names for things. For example, he'll say helicopter, not chopper, like some gauche simpleton.
Here come the wheelie bird. Here's the deal. I like the phrase gauss simpleton. I feel like I'm an urban gentleman says that. I don't understand this distinction.
Wait. Wait. So, I'm trying to think of Unless he's deliberately Is there anything that comes to mind personally, fellas, that you may… That you use the little children's word? I mean, I say car instead of sedan or something. I don't remember last time I said, hey. Would you like to ride in my automobile?
Yeah. I say wheels. I only do that when I'm, like, joking. Let's take the motorbike for a spin. I mean Use Gauss, simpleton. I mean, there is something classy about using the right words, but, I mean, people gotta understand what you're saying. And so, I mean, I I mean, chopper might be a little fifth grade, but Yeah. I I I think that's kind of a point. I mean, that's kinda weird if an adult just goes, hey, man. Do you wanna go take a ride on a chopper? Yeah. I know. You want. I'm trying to think of another… Like, what's another what's another example of something that you may use a a more childish word for
besides, like, wheels, besides cars? Well, I mean, staying in the same vein, would you say something like, hey, do you wanna go to the races? And instead, you should say, hey, would you like to go to the sporting event? I don't know. Technically, the word fridge is out. Oh, but like, pick… How about bit like a… Like you say fridge instead of refrigerator.
Nah. This is stupid. Yeah. Yeah. This is really dumb. Hey. Here's the deal. The modern man does not waste his time on this conversation. Urban gentleman doesn't give a crap. He's gonna talk the way he'd like to as long as he doesn't sound like an idiot. Yeah. I'm gonna give this a half point for Gael Shimbledon. It's… I feel like that's something where the urban gentleman could could up his game Yeah. And use and say things like that. Yeah. You could find more colorful words. That doesn't mean you have to eliminate fridge and chopper. Yeah. Alright. I'm in with that. Alright. Here we go. Number nine. Having a daughter makes the modern man more of a complete person. He learns new stuff every day. I mean, having sons is completely out?
Here's the deal. That's all I know. Here, I think the the urban the urban gentleman, recognizes all those… All the new stuff that he learns by having a daughter in his life. I think that's… And and and and gladly embraces such a thing. True. I think it would otherwise be wrong to say that an… You can't be a modern man or an urban gentleman if you do not have a daughter. That seems a little bit closed minded. But other than that, I would I would say recognizing the richness of your life based upon having a daughter in your life, if you wanna be that specific, something an urban gentleman should should certainly know. Yeah. And I feel if you put the weight of completing yourself on your child, that's a lot of weight for a small little girl to handle. You complete me. I don't know if I don't know. Y'all mean the rest of y'all got daughters, Riley, but, like,
I mean, what I learned most from these little gals is, boy, it's tough being a little gal. There's some stuff. You know, there's stuff going on other little gals about. The way they look at themselves, the way they feel about themselves, the way they fit in socially, the way that… You know what I'm saying? Like, I think, man, it's just easier to be a callous sibling. It just really is. Or, I mean, when when I was, five years old, I'm like, chopper, chopper, chopper, chopper. You know? And she's like, does my hair look right? And so and so has blah blah blah. I'm like, man, what a tough day. Yeah. I don't know how you guys live like this.
Yeah. Take everything you… You're thinking about in a given day and double it and actually be concerned about it as opposed to just seeing the passes in your Yeah. And then quadruple that, and that's your wife. You, sir, are surrounded by a bunch of thinkers. Yeah. Where you walk in, you go, little cold in here. Maybe I'll put on a sweatshirt. Yeah. Right. Everyone else is like, little cold in here. Did I leave the oven on? What happened? Maybe I should do some laundry. I bet the kids need sweatshirts. We should probably clean sweatshirts for the kids. I bet 15,000 other things. And each of those is a reflection of yourself. That's exactly right. Who you are and how important you are. And the dad goes, I wonder if I got any sweatshirts. I bet I got one in the old truck. Maybe it stinks. Maybe I don't care. Yeah. Where's the dog? He's to blame. That gauche shimmerlin.
You don't see me shedding in here. I barely ask a thing. Trained you to shed outside. I'm amazed at the amount of responsibility I put on my dog. Every day I walk in and I think, I ask barely anything of you.
And you can't even do this one thing, like stop eating my underpants. Wait. Wait. The dog the dog gets in your underpants store? No. It gets out of the dirty clothes. Oh, yeah. I've tried to hide them in the sink. Here's the deal. When you have to hide your own underpants because the dog might eat them, you think yourself, what what series of life choices have I made that have landed me in this predicament? No. I actually… I had that same thought when we were leaving the house one day, my wife goes, we should put the garbage can up because the dog's gonna get into it. I'm like, I'm… Why am I working on behalf of the dog? Yeah. Like, the dog has inconvenienced me to the extent that I have to move my… Pick up my garbage and stick it on top of my counter where I serve food because it can't behave itself.
And so I thought, like, I don't know. I've made wrong choices in life. Right? Yeah. At some point, I've done something wrong where I have to act this way and my dog… You're in debt to an animal. I know. He's he's bullying me around. If you don't move it, he's gonna eat garbage. Yeah. Yeah. May I just put some something in there and make him sick? I will… I feel like he doesn't… I think what happens. Right? Like, you don't go home… Come home soon enough, I'm gonna poop in here. Well, what the heck? Like,
I feed you. I give you a place to stay. I pet you all the time. You keep me up every time it rains, and then you threaten me like, hey, show up every six hours or I'm gonna crap in your yard, and then I'm gonna come and do it in the kitchen. Right. Like, what if I took off bits of my skin and left it around your place all the time? Like, that's unacceptable behavior, but that's basically what the dog is doing, putting his hair all over everywhere, Thinks he belongs to sit on all the stuff you got. Hey, you get a new shirt? I'm a put my butt on that. Yeah. Hey, man. I don't want a dog anymore. He's a bully, man. Yeah. He is. That nice? Ain't that nice? Alright. Here we go. Number 10. The modern man make sure the dishes on the rack have dried completely before putting them away.
I mean, can you wipe them with a towel? Is that acceptable? Yeah. I don't think it implies he has to let it air dry. You're supposed to put them away? Yeah. I was gonna say, I don't remember the last time I put my dishes away. I kinda just let let them clean and sit in the dishwasher, and then I grab them. And then you pick them out. Do you have do you have enough dishes to do multiple rotations to the dishwasher?
No. So you just use this cupboard, really? As As a a wet wet cupboard? Cupboard. For the most part, yes. Because here's the deal. I will use the dishes, put them in the dishwasher, wash them, and then use them out of the dishwasher,
put them back in the dishwasher, and then use them. Why don't you just get paper plates? You can do that when you're single. You just… True. Can't do that when you just start doing… Yeah. Here's here's…… Clean, there's no problem with it. Here's the here's the right answer. I think what it's getting at is to say, the urban gentleman does things the right way. He doesn't just do them because… For the accolades to say the urban gentleman's gotten involved in this. He does it correctly. Right? Just like when he when he takes care of the laundry, he doesn't just… And I'm guilty of this at times, put his undies away in the socks and then hang up his shirts and be like, okay. I took care of my action. I don't know where everything else goes. Yeah. Okay. That's not the urban gentleman. Urban gentleman figures out where stuff goes. Now you can write… I rightly task the children to put their own stuff away as a responsibility item. But, like, my wife has random piles of stuff that aren't labeled well. Or, like, she knows exactly where they go. I don't. And there's probably… Most of time, I'm like, I'm just gonna leave these here, she'll set them in the right spot. No troubles. And I thought that's that's dumb. So I've been trying to make a stab, but I'd rather be… Made a shot at it and be wrong than kinda bow out and be like, yeah, but I'm just a dude, and I don't know where clothes go.
So, yeah, I say the urban gentleman doesn't bail on putting the laundry away in all areas. And if he doesn't know where a certain towel goes or whatever, you ask and figure it out so that you know it for next time, not be like, well, I'm just a I'm just a lonely fella. I don't know where these go. Hey, man. You need to simplify your household if there are certain places for certain towels. We have three… There's the… Oh, there's just towels? Well, no. There's the kitchen towels that got degrees on them. Yep. And then there's man towels that also got the grease on them because I put it there from my body. And then there's the lady's towel. First off, don't use body From the weight of my body. I… We have… You're doing another Rodan shower thing. I put some man grease on it. That's weird. This is another Rodan shower situation. We have a separate towel pile for the for the pig. He gets its own Alright. That's another different situation. Guys have a pet pig. I'm talking like, what's a kitchen towel?
The things he used to wipe dishes off when they're wet. Yeah. Yep. They're not… He's drying the dishwasher. That's why they sit on racks. Yeah. But what if he spilled… So that the water walks off. What if you wash your hands in the kitchen and you gotta dry your hands off? You don't wanna use one that… You don't wanna use the dirty towel that the pig just got done using. First off, you have clothes on. And here's the deal. You can't even trust the pig to put his own towel away. Use your paper towel. Oh. It's concept of paper towel. Paper… Here's the deal. You take the amount of paper towels you use at your house and then multiply that by 20, and that's how many you will use in a in a in a full size family house. You will run through paper towels like you're just taking them outside and chucking them. Right. You had three ladies, two dogs,
two cats, and a pig, which is basically Mike's situation. Yeah. A couple goats. You might as well just open the paper towels and dump them right into the garbage can. Yeah. Just have a daily fire of paper towels where you just throw them in a big big bonfire. How do you heat your house? Paper towel. Bronnie. Bronnie heats the house. Sometimes I burn $20 bills the same way. That's just what it feels like. Hey. We did this. Burn the money. Alright. And we're gonna do one more. Maybe we'll pick up on the rest of this one, next week. So the modern, the modern man has never pinned a tweet, and he never will. I don't even know what pinning a tweet is. I'm not sure. I don't… It's not the same it's not the same thing as the favorite, isn't it? I think it's like putting a specific one at the top so everyone sees that one. I was gonna say it's not retweeting it, and it's not favoriting it. No. I don't I Isn't that Pinterest when you pin something? Well, that is Pinterest, but I think you can pin on Twitter too. Twitter. Twitter's on the way out, so I don't know. Hey. It doesn't sound like we have any problems though. No. I think it's fine. We don't even understand it. We're all urban gentlemen. Oh, we're making some progress here. We're gonna get I'm half a man. Maybe we'll get some of those next week. We'll continue to list to the 27 ways to be a modern man or the disagreement in which we reverse it and say the 27 ways to be an urban gentleman from Life From The Path. Hey. You listen to Life From The Path. Big thanks, by the way, to Bob Eisenhower with the Eisenhower team. Go to eisenhowerteam.com
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or org or something. They'll they'll have Plum somewhere on there. Just put the Google on overflow music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do overflow music and Plum, and those tickets will come up. There's still a few left. So they still got… You got time to get in there and pick some up. The urban gentleman would have bought us tickets by now. Yeah. That's true. And here, there's still time to salvage this problem of yours, which is you are plumless. And so… Yeah. Yeah. Pick up, that's gonna be a really cool show. And here's the deal. It's like cool shows stop coming around when we don't support them. So if the person says, hey, I I I don't know why cool shows don't come. If you're not going out to them, you can't be surprised when artists who need that money for the show to actually, you know, make a living don't keep coming around here. And so the folks at Overflow
work hard at getting good shows in here, and they've done a really good job. They… They're the ones that brought in the Building four twenty nine show with Tim Timmons and a Rhett Walker band Oh, yeah. That we were at a few years ago. Was an absolute my world. Yeah. No. No. So, like, those guys are working hard to get good shows for you. You need to respond and and go out to that scene. So pick up those tickets for Plum. That's this coming Sunday, and go to overflow music or just do a Google search for overflow music in Plum, and you'll able to pick up tickets for that. That should be a really, really good show. It's tomorrow for our radio broadcast. Yeah. Heck yeah. If you guys are listening on the truth network nine nine point three FM, that's… There's still time. K? It's Saturday night. You still got time to pick up tickets for Sunday night. Surprise your significant other or that modern man in your life who really enjoys that type of thing. Dry the dishes, pick him up, make sure he's not buying shoes, and take him out to the wrong concert. Alright. So there's there's an article that scientists claim zapping brains with magnets can treat belief in God. So here's here's the… Here's how it goes.
Oh, wait. So wait. They're combined. So it says, wait. Attitudes towards… Here… The full headline is scientists claim they can change your belief on immigrants and god with magnets. On immigrants? On immigrants and god with magnets. You can see what this implies already. How do they know my belief on immigrants? I don't know. Here… Here's here's what the study says. This is only for Americans? Or…
Not sure on that. Let's see where it comes from. Are they reading my mind? Wait. Attitude toward God and immigrants? Are these a natural pair? The newspaper thought so. They tell of an experiment which claims to be able to make Christians no longer believe in God and make Britons open their arms to migrants. It's it's English. It's English today. Oh. How's it done? Using a technique called transcranial magnetic stimulation, researchers can safely shut down certain groups of neurons in the brain. It seems it worked. Volunteers were coaxed into having their brains zapped by giant magnets. And low belief in god was reduced almost by a third while participants became 28 and a half percent less bothered by immigration numbers. The news report was based
on the paper neuromodulation of group prejudice and religious belief by Colin Holbrook and four others in the journal social, cognitive, and effective neuroscience. This paper is one in a long line of studies that purport to explain the workings of the human mind based on responses to simple questionnaires. It's true. Scientists in some fields have convinced themselves they can quantify the unquantifiable. They believe hideously complex human emotions can be adequately represented on scales of one to five or some other bounds. For instance, on a scale of negative four to four, how much do you agree with the statement there exists an all powerful, all knowing, loving god?
Before you answer before you answer, consider, is the distance in belief from three to four the same as it is from two to three and from one to two and so on? Are these distances exactly the same in all people? What happens if the scale were to be changed from negative four to four to one from one to nine, which is the same length? Will the results be the same? Does everybody agree on the precise definitions of all powerful, all knowing, and so on? The answer is obviously no to all these questions, but Holbrook's results and the results from thousands of such investigations assume the answer is yes. It's worse than this. Consider the same question about God, after you answer these two questions, please briefly describe the emotions that the thought of your own death arouses in you, and please jot down as specifically as you can what you think will happen to your body as you physically die and once you are physically dead. Why? Because the authors say in the supplementary material to the main article, these threat inductions have an evident link between the prospect of death and palliative thoughts of God in the afterlife, and also because thinking about your own death has been shown to reliably heighten both intergroup prejudice and religiosity in prior studies. Thinking about life after death increases intergroup prejudices? That must explain the riot in the pews each Sunday after the Nicene Creed is read. I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. And are palliative thoughts about death the only reason people believe in God? Of course not. The presidential prompting is of dubious value. So here's here's what I'm thinking. They're they're looking to say, first of all, they've indicated that your belief, inacceptance of, migrants in whatever form and belief in God are obviously diseases that need cured.
They're gonna do the thing with magnets. And the way you do that is you ask them the questions, zap them with the magnets, and then you ask them for the reactions. Now if you were to ask me about my quality of life before you try to zap me with a giant magnet,
and, and then you put me through some sort of, situation at which I felt, you know, isolated in a room knowing that I'm undergoing some kind of weird magnetic thing, and then then ask me my quality of life. I feel like, and belief in God, I feel like those are easily swayed by the nature of the experiment itself and my expectations as to what you want to hear from my reaction to that experiment. Because, like, I I can't think of anything like that that would obviously alter
what I believe in God or, I suppose, immigrants. That's a weird study. Didn't they seem that the connection seemed to be fear based in some way or another? It's like somehow these magnets will reduce a person's fear. And so for those people who respond to immigrants and apparently to God because of the fear that's going on in their brains than by somehow shutting down the fear,
cause them to be less interested in these things? Does that ring true? Is that… It seemed like that was the summary of what they were going. Was what it seems to be saying. Here's here's But the the same effect can occur from a lobotomy. I mean, you can pacify someone… Exactly what I was thinking. So, you know, what's the value here? Well, that's the thing. Is is is that you've basically said, hey, listen. The the the person's belief in God is so strong that regular old talking ain't gonna do it. We literally have to magnetize your head
and convince your brain that something else is going on here. I mean, this is not even legit study. I mean, I could be… Here's the deal. Like, you… I could basically say, hey. Look. Do you believe in purple angels? And someone says, no. And then I hit them with a bat in the face. How about now?
No. Then I do it again. And then they go, yeah, because they wanna stop getting hit in the face with a bat. Actually, that's the right that's the right thought is is that what people, it assumes that the belief in God and the, I don't know, anti immigrant position is the wrong one,
and that magnets are improving the situation. But, like, that is an unscientific deduction. If a right understanding of science would be to say, what does this do to people's belief? Yeah. And then it would be from an outsider's perspective for us to determine whether it is actually beneficial. Because, like, if if God is who he says he is and science cannot prove… Disprove that, k, what you might have done is actually just harmed someone as opposed to improve their circumstance. Did they did they happen to say whether there was any
atheists in there or something that they magnetized and now they then believed in the lord? Because really, if that's not true, then then you haven't proven anything. And was there a group that they didn't magnetize? Know, You what do they call that? The The control? The control group. The control group. Yeah. That that they thought they magnetized but they really didn't placebo. They said a big guy out in a big magnet costume.
Don't magnets don't zap. I don't know what it gets. The urban gentleman. I I gotta I gotta sit next to the guy. Did you feel that? Is it done? I think so. The urban gentleman still refers to it as the dipole.
This magnet I brought is acting funny. Is that the bug zipper? You you were sold the wrong item. Your batteries are low. You mean my dry cells. Seriously, didn't you? It was my electrolyte. I've been zapped by magnets before and my belief in God only increased. So…
Wait. I was gonna say, what happens to everybody that has an MRI? Yeah. Like, they go in there, they come back out there like, I've seen it. I was going down a tunnel. Hey. They show off for the study because they got stuck in their metal bed. Yeah. They they can't get back out. Exactly.
It said… Let's see. We still haven't answered the big question. Why? Why do the authors design a study about belief in God and attitudes about immigrants? From their conclusion, written in the impenetrable prose typical of such studies, here's their explanation. History teaches that investment in cherished group and religious values can bring forth acts of both heroic valor and horrific injustice. Understanding the psychological and biological determinants of increases in ideological commitment may ultimately help us to identify the situational triggers of and individuals most susceptible to this phenomenon and thereby gain some leverage over the zealous acts that follow. The results provide evidence that relatively abstract personal and social attitudes are susceptible to targeted neuromodulation,
opening the ways for researchers to not only describe the biological mechanisms undergirding high level attitudes and beliefs, but also to establish causality via experimental intervention. So I think the thought process here is that if you can find the right place to zap it, you can keep the shoe bomber off the plane. But the the problem is if it's if it's based on…
If this is people who are responding to God because of the fear in their life, and they're afraid of death and afraid of immigrants and things like that. You're not talking about suicide bombers. Okay? You're not talking about those kind of zealotry. Yeah. I mean, they've already made peace with with whatever kind of death scenario and fear is going on. They're they're already completely embraced and sold in it. They're not… Right. Right. You're right. This is affecting a whitewashed Freddie. Some guy who's got no firm beliefs one way the other and could be easily swayed by the circumstances
to believe something different. Yeah. You're right. Shoebox being convinced. It's not the radicals out there. These are the these are the nominals. Yeah. And so we're talking like a dead… We're talking like a deadbolt on your door. Right? You're gonna keep an honest man out. Somebody wanna come in and come in. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, that's tricky. Alright. Anyway. So I mean, heads up for a guy with a magnet? I don't know. When you started reading their explanation, like, I I caught on for about the first half a second. And then all of a sudden, I just felt like you put my hand in a waffle iron, and I had to wait it out. And, like, I just… I can't follow anything on what you're saying. It sounds like a lot of blah blah blah blah blah blah waffle iron. There's a lot of subjective guesswork going on in this study to put it mildly. Here's the deal. We we we hit people with magnets and they changed their mind.
I'm not sure whether they thought we were gonna do it again or… It sounds like a couple dudes found out that magnets can zap people, and they're like, hey, man. We should do a study about this, and I zap people in the face. I mean, here's figure out how to make it about God and immigrants. You are next to magnets all the time. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I mean, when they say magnet, everyone thinks like this super powerful magnet or whatever is gonna suck you in or change your brain waves. But, like, you you hold a magnet to your phone… To your to your ear every day. That's true. You stand by a a TV with 15 magnets in it. Your car has 45 magnets in it. You're on magnets all the time. I don't know that this one magnet, this special magnet that they brought in from Berlin or something is gonna do some whatever fancy… We're not a magnetic beam. Right? Like, the whole earth runs on a magnetic pulse. True. But like, it's not like you have an inner gyroscope. Right? The Lord is a little bit more sophisticated than that. And so it's it's really… It's it's a… It's all a placebo, man. It's not really doing anything. Yeah. I wonder… It makes you wonder, like, what they tell people ahead of time. Like, if we just say, hey, I'm gonna ask you a few questions, and you're gonna sit alone for a while, and then I'm ask you the same questions again, and what happened? Or we say, hey, we're gonna subject you to magnetism, magnetism. And we're trying to figure out if it changes what you think about god. Go. If you're gonna zap people in the face, shouldn't you probably get a waiver? What are these people doing making experiments? Why not? Oh, we've got giant magnet. Let's make a magnet soup. It'd be Iron Man for, like, couple days. That's true. Andrew… Well, Andrew's made a solid case that they're using any knowledge that they may have improperly Yeah. And for the wrong means.
Okay. I agree with Andrew. We could've been been curing sleepwalking years ago. Alright. You're listening live from the path. Mike, we got… I don't know. We got, like, five, six minutes on the regular broadcast. You got time for your advice? Yeah. Yeah. Here's the deal. It's it's it's not really long and drawn out. I can't even figure out. I don't even know why it's still bothering me. But the deal is is I have a vehicle. It's an older vehicle. And I let somebody borrow this this vehicle. And it… It is… Was that someone in the room? No. No. Okay. No. I have a lot of older crappy vehicles here. Okay. So anyway, I let somebody borrow this thing,
and and it broke down on them. And I I kinda thought maybe that might happen. It's got, like, 200,000 miles on it. Right? But in in any of the case, I felt like a schmuck. So he said this happened. So I go rolling out there, and I I I looked at the the two possible things that I thought could be wrong. And one was the most expensive part, but really easy to get to. And the other one was a pretty cheap part, but kind of a pain to get to. And I thought, man, it's nice outside, and I always get… End up getting bit by the worst thing. So I'm gonna buy the most expensive part and assume that that was probably the deal. So I put this thing in. I drive it around for, like, a half hour, forty five minutes. Works just fine. I say, look, we're good to go. I'm sorry. It was it was only down for, like, twenty four hours. I got it back to him. I said, there you go. I'm sorry that happened. You know, let me know if you had any more problems. He drives it, like, for fifteen minutes. It does the exact same thing. Starts breaking down on him again. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. So then I I get it dumped off at a neighbor's house or whatever. He gets his vehicle back up and running and gets it back. You know? And, so I'm like, well, I'm gonna have to go pick up this thing, and I live about forty five minutes away from where it's at. Preparing for a three hour commute of where it breaks down five times and I gotta wait for it to reset and all this jazz, I I get out there, get in it, and I drive it straight home. No problems at all. And it occurred to me that I was I was legitimately upset by the time I got home. Because what's what's bothering me more than anything is I don't know why it's breaking down. And the whole goal of me driving it was that I would be there when it happened, and I would know what happened, and then I could get… I could fix it. You know? And I thought, the whole time I'm driving it back to my house, I'm like, it's working. Why isn't it breaking down? And I thought, maybe the Lord is blessing me with a with a sweet drive home. And I thought, why would you do that? I need to know what's wrong with this thing, you know? And then I… So now I'm caught in some… A a a really weird dichotomy that for some reason I cannot drop. I've been thinking about it for, like, the last two days. I want nothing more than this to fail,
and I have a feeling that God wants nothing more than for it to succeed without letting me see how it fails. And for some reason, I can't get past this scenario on why this means anything to me, but it's still bothering me. It's still sitting in the back of my head like, I don't understand. I want something to fail so I can figure out what the problem is. God says, it's gonna run. Now granted he might not have done any of these things. It might just be a luck of the thing and whatever the screw that was causing the short isn't in there anymore, and it moved because of the heat. I don't know. I I can't prove any of these things. But I really wanna know why it doesn't work. And as far as I'm concerned, the Lord is saying, no. You don't need to know that at all. And all I can think of is, but it's unreliable. I don't know why… I can't loan it to people. I can't drive it. I don't know what's wrong with it. I can't fix it. And and and for some reason, I feel like God is refusing to reveal to me what the problem is. Now here's the question.
Why? Tell me why. It's driving me crazy. You guys have insight. I'm sorry. Are you proposing that we answer the question that God is not? Tell me why he's doing this. God refuses to tell me what I'm you guys confused and I don't understand. I need to know why this is happening. Alright. What would you do with a reliable vehicle?
I'm sorry. An unreliable vehicle. I would have to get rid of it. Is that what you're going to do with this? If I can't fit… If it doesn't break down again, then yes. I can't loan it to anybody if I don't know if it runs. If it's unreliable, I can drive it because I don't mind getting stranded on the road in my own vehicle. But having someone else stranded on the road in my vehicle, I feel terrible. I can't do it. So you're gonna drive it around? Well, I have a lot of unreliable vehicles to drive. This one, could probably shit. I don't extra options in the I don't need more. But I can't… But, like, literally, I only keep this car around to let people borrow when their car breaks down. That's the only reason I keep it. And so… But I… If I don't… If it doesn't break down, I can't figure out what's wrong with it. And every time I drive it, it's just fine.
I don't know. Maybe the Lord is setting you up. You're gonna be driving some way. It's gonna break down at the right time. And a, well, you know what it is, and you'll have broken down for the right reasons. Hey. So you're thinking about this all wrong. You're like, god, why don't you just tell me what this is? Why can't I figure this out? And really, what you gotta think is, I wonder what god's doing here. It's gonna be awesome. He's setting me up for something. It's possible. This sounds reminiscent of Ben's issue of he's been sitting on this thing for a long time, and then he just suddenly just says, alright, God. Here, it's yours. And then God solves it in, two minutes. Yeah. I think that's what's gonna happen. But he has to use me to do it. That's how I've set it up. It's just Well, you're just putting God in a box in our That's what I'm saying. This is the problem. This is… Oh, I feel like he's a get it. And Aaron prayed to the Lord God, and he said, give me a sword.
I will free the people from Egypt. This is how it will be done. We've tried it with your ways with the bugs and the frogs. Okay. I'm just gonna go get them. Okay? Anyway, it's not even really Pope style advice. I just, for the life of me, can't figure out why it's… Why I'm still thinking about it. This thing is of no consequence to I I I think he's given you a safe way to recognize that you need to give up on some stuff. Right? A safe way to look at it and say, I I care. I need to know more than I should need to know. I I don't know what, like… I I keep… Actually, maybe that's… Maybe it's for me. Maybe you're… The reason you're telling this story is for me because I feel like this has been hitting me over the head
multiple times over the last month, which has got hammered on me saying, you don't get to know. It's not your business. You said this is the… What what comes next is not your problem. Well, all the the planning, the the preparation, the skills you think you have, the things that you think you're gonna go on, the indicators of what you use to decide whether things are going well or not well, because those are not your concern. It's… It it… It's it's taking the things that we say, which is faithful means god will handle the ends, and actually believing that on a micro level. As opposed, like, sometimes we retranslate the means to be, like, everything up to the point of which we break through the banner at the start of the football game. We plot it out to where the uniforms go. We plot it out with the total we're gonna run-in. We coordinate with the announcer on who's the the first guy out, that kind of stuff. And we're like, I've been faithful in all these means. God will supply the ends. Right? Like, we've actually taken control of everything that would in… Allow the ends to be anything else but what we dictated. But the truth is, if I'm gonna say that God will handle the ends, I have to have not taken taken all the means from him as well. Right? Mhmm. And so faithful in the means that are mine,
and otherwise saying, for for for God to have done something, I need to actually let him do it. And that that is that is showing up for me in multiple ways over the last month or so. I think it shines in that example. Like, if if you can't get it to break… Actually, this is another example with your car… With a car of yours. So I've been driving your your, I don't know, your junk box truck this week. Yeah. And so, like, you gotta… Mike's got a taillight out in this thing. The the back tire goes flat, like, every twelve hours, so I have to kinda amp it up and stop at a gas station before I go go from work and back to work. Seat belt? The seat belt does not work, so I've got it kinda tied and rigged up. Hold on. It takes five pulls, and you have to hit it when you pull it out. So I I got it tied there. That way, if the sheriff passes me, he can at least see it crossing over my shoulder so he doesn't pull pull me over for lack of You a just don't know how to do it, right? And
so so… And then I can't get the glove box open because I was preparing to get pulled over for the taillight, and I couldn't get the glove box open. So I thought, the cops gonna pull me over. I'm gonna have no documentation, no seat belt, no taillight, a flat tire, and be like, my brother owns this truck. And I thought, well, he… There's no way he's not gonna search the thing. So… And he's gonna find the no bake cookies I stashed in there. So… But but… So anyway, I… I've been worried all week. Like, I'm gonna get a pullover. It's gonna cost me big money. I don't have big money to pay this stupid fine. And then Dave Herrick tried to talk me out of this yesterday, and I refused to be talked out of it. I was still nervous and thinking about it. Like, it's gonna cost me big money, Mike's a real jerk and doggone it. I'm gonna be in some big big troubles. And then finally, as I was driving here today, I thought, like, I suddenly became not worried about it all. And, like, if they if they pull me over,
they pull me over. Like, I have to drive the vehicle from point a to point b. I'm not gonna wizardry myself outside of the police's arm. Like, if he's sitting somewhere and gonna get me, he's gonna get me. I have no other alternatives. So I might as well just drive to where I need to go at a normal speed, how I would have traveled normally, and things would just be what they'll be. And it was a much more peaceful ride Yeah. Driving that truck in today than it was before. And, like, the whole deal was is I was constantly worried about something that I had very little control over. Right? Like, I couldn't do anything about whether the sheriff was gonna be posted one way or the other. I was legitimately breaking the law
in some way or another. I'm not a furious criminal, but there… There's certainly a violation or two he could get me and I deserve it. And so I thought, it's just a re hammering to say, no, seriously, I'm asking for more and more. You need to trust me with more and more. Quit fighting it back for me. And so your other car trouble may also be for me. I'm very sorry. Heads up, fellas. The Lord is working on me, and you might be involved. It's alright. I got I got lots of vehicles, Lord. Get them. Get Ben. Hey. Don't don't don't do that to me. Alright. Hey. You've been listening to live from the path. Hey. Thanks so much for hanging out with us. If you're on the Truth Network ninety nine point three FM,
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And there… This tune was on. Like, I turned it on, and this tune was kinda rocking. And so I I cranked it up, and I was digging on it. And then all of a sudden, this guy gets on there, and I don't I don't know who he is or what show he runs, but he kicks off some sort of, like, I don't know, Mexican greatest hits right after it. And so, like, like, they were completely divergent.
This sounds like the student run Drake Station or something. Something like that. We're like, yeah, these two things did not go… I I thought I was gonna get them some kind of hit blues jazz funk action. Uh-huh. Gonna be… And I was like I was like, finally, the radio is is made for me. And then and then it kicks off. And I try to listen to it for a while, but like, can't trust music that doesn't have a legit bass player. When they're like, hey, I like the tuba, but, like, I like a bass man. And so if there's not a bass… If they said, hey, bass man, you don't have to come today. We brought in tuba man. I'm immediately irritated by this, and I can't enjoy your music. So marching bands are out unless they also have a bass man. As a matter of fact, I played in the marching band as an electric bass player. I drug an amplifier out to the front of the field. We plugged that beast in, and I played electric bass on the field.
And so I just… I don't trust it when you try to swap out the bass man, And so I had to turn the station. But, anyway, that song was a good song. That was Thunder Chicken by the Imperial. Alright. Mike, what do you got, dear life from the path? Excellent. What else? I'm I'm I'm looking. I'm looking. I hear what you're saying. Okay. Here we go. Dear,
I thought you said that. Yeah. Let's go slow. Dear life from the path, I have been dating Colton for six months. He's a year and a half older than I am and just started college. I'm still in high school. Recently, my parents have begun putting restrictions on us, limiting us to one date a week under four hours long and in a group situation. They like Colton, but they're worried I'll miss out on my friends and high school events. We have obeyed their restrictions, but the time limit they have set is too short for many date activities, and getting a group together is nearly impossible. I agree I should balance my time, but I think their rules are too rigid because there are no exceptions. I know my parents care about me, but I'm looking for a little more freedom and the ability to make my own choices. My parents agreed that if I could find other people who thought this situation was in some way unreasonable,
they would reconsider some of the rules. So I'm wondering what your opinion is, fellas. Four hours sounds reasonable. You can hit a movie and a and a dinner. What's wrong with that? What about mini golf?
Well, you could do that instead of the movie. Unless you get stuck behind a really big family that's super slow. What? That's what I'm talking about. It happens every time you go mini golfing. All of sudden, like, mega bus shows up, and one dude decides he's gonna take 15 people out. I haven't seen anybody be able to keep a mini golf thing open. I feel like mini golf's on the way out. Or it's out. Although, right for a resurgence. You guys wanna open a mini golf play? Yes, please.
Although, we have mini bowling in the way too. Just have it like a bowling alley, but with, like, a windmill. No. I didn't Going on. That… I didn't go that far. Hey, mini golf. I like that. That's a good way to break your your windmill. Someone chucking a bowling ball at it. I feel like he can take a golf ball, but if you're bowling at the windmill. Make the windmill out of foam. That way it just bounces off. Have extra windmill panel things.
Just hanging out, in fact. For a drunken bowler. I think we're way off topic here. I think four hours is… That's fair. Yeah. You know, if if something comes up and and you… You're gonna run into a delay or something like that, you just get ahold of your parents and hey. We're running late. Just let them know. The the main thing is just don't have a lot of idle time. Otherwise, you know, being alone with idle time, it's just gonna get you into trouble. So Yeah. It's like stopping at the gas station when your family's out of town and you feel like there are no strings on what you could buy. Oh. It's like that.
Holy cats. You just described the last six years of my life. But we gotta knock that off. That's a dangerous place. You walk in, you think, I can literally buy anything in this store for me. Man, that's been that's been grocery shopping as an adult. Mhmm. Like, I show up and I'm just like, here's the deal. I can afford anything in here. Yeah. Mhmm. And no one will see me eat any of this. You know what you should do? It's gone. Yeah. Here's what you do. You need to have your groceries delivered. I usually make… That's awesome. Yeah. Eliminate the exercise of grocery shopping. No. No. Eliminate the risk of grocery shopping. Is that your source of exercise at the grocery store? Hey, man. You have no idea about my life.
Like, and I kinda… Cannot say that as a war veteran more enough. You do not understand my life. Yeah. But but if there… There's a risk, and this is true for me too. Like, if I go to the store and I end up buying foolish things… No. I just need to go when I'm not hungry. No. That's never gonna happen. Not true. I'm… I could always eat a Reese's peanut butter cup, and they're always available right by the register. Yeah. But I don't have trouble with sweets. Well, the beef jerky. I I… Yeah. No. I don't have that either. Baked potato? I've… No. I really… I I don't have any of that problem. Okay. What food causes you trouble that we could use in these… It's not anything like, hey, man. I see that. I'm a grab it. It's like, hey, man. I'm gonna grab stuff for meals and then
non make meals. Oh. Just kinda… Gotta… Then just eat all that. Go at it, you know. It's like, hey, man. I just spent 50 bones on groceries for the next couple days,
but they were Four hours. Like, I need a grocery shop one day at a time. So you need someone to sell you the completed lasagna. Right. So that… I need someone to make me healthy stuff and bring it over one serving at a time. Like, Eric, you just drive over to my house every couple hours and go, hey, Troy. Here's your meal. And then drive away so that my fridge and all of my… Excuse me, my refrigerator
and, all of my cabinets are empty at all times. My… Hey, You're just like the dog. If you promise not to mess in my house, you can come stay with me. Hey, man. I have a… But I can dish you out for the rest of day…. Just like your dog. Hey, man. I I watched the dog. We we dog sat for somebody a couple months back, and I wake up in the morning to go to work. It was like four in the morning. I had somewhere to be, and this dog had taken a mess on top of my computer. Like, I left my computer open. My my work computer because I was doing stuff. And I get up and I'm like, what is that? That's some dog mess. Like, on the keyboard and stuff? Yeah. I immediately looked at my own dogs like, you've betrayed me. And
then I looked at it closer. I'm like, no. No. That's not my dog's mess. No. I was so mad at that dog. Hey. Hey. That dog did not do that voluntarily. That's uncomfortable. Someone set you up. The better Whoever you borrowed the dog from, I've been practicing that for weeks. Alright. Here's the Computer, jump. Go. There's just no reason for it. So, on a totally different note, I kind of disagree. I think I think four hours is kind of limiting.
Yeah. I like the one guy who disagrees but Actually, four hours per week. I mean, that. No, per date. But it's once a week. Right. He's… That's four hours a week. It doesn't mean that that's your only contact because you can still phone and talk and things like that. So there's still room for conversation. But he's a year and a half older, which means he's just starting college, and she's in high school. So she's like, 16,
and he's… Or 16 or 17. Right. And then he's probably 18 or 19. 18 or 19. Yeah. I mean… Yeah. Four hours seems a little limiting to me. I I guess I don't see the I don't see the problem in letting them hang out longer than that.
Yeah. I don't know. That that that just seems kind of… It's just overly restricted. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't go much more, but, man, mean, I guess maybe it's just the maybe I'm a little bit rebellious in nature. When someone tells me four hours, I want five. So it's just like I I would probably say, hey. You have a a one segment of a day time period.
You mean like an afternoon? An afternoon, a morning, and whatever. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I don't know. I don't know. But there's something about it I just don't like. Okay. And I might be in a position where I have… Who did have a high school girl with a college boyfriend. And did you set up restrictions? Not that tight. No.
Of course, if you have someone responsible, though. They're both… Yeah. I mean, they were both, like, doing major homework and and very serious about their studies. So it's never been an issue, like like maybe some some families could have, but, I don't know. That just… I just think that seems kinda Pretty good. Yeah. What's secular say? Secular says, in my opinion, it is very important that your primary concern and Colton's too should be earning good grades in completing your education.
Both of your futures depend on it. Not really. That said, if there are special events coming up that you and Colton would like to share, the curfew should be adjusted on a case by case basis. You know, I I my tolerance for people in their education blasting is just… I don't… I still don't have it. Here's the thing. They set kids up to fail. Education, education, college, college, college. And all we got is a bunch of people with debt getting out. They can't afford to do anything. Don't know how to do anything, and are frankly not skilled to do anything. They just attended college because you told them they had to or their life would be ruined. Yeah. And really, if you'd have just gotten that job as a janitor right off the bat, you'd be running the place by the time you're 35, and you wouldn't have a $150,000
worth of debt when you got out. Yeah. I'm I'm not saying it's for everybody, but I'm just saying, like, don't don't don't listen to people when they say that your lack of education is gonna ruin your life. Maybe God don't have a plan for you to go to college. Maybe you boasted this thing up and put yourself in all kinds of debt for no reason. It was just a complete waste. Yeah. Actually, you know, was along those same lines. It's it's it's easier to look back at at those circumstances and be like, well, but but all those have made me the person I am today. And I don't know. That's a pretty popular Facebook item too. You know, Like, whatever I've gone through has made me the person I am today. It's like, well, you know, maybe you really did not have be that person. Yeah. I'm a lot better than that. Keep in someone else…. Choices in your life. Yeah. You're just a general schmuck that doesn't do good things. Yeah. Maybe those things that made you who you are are a bad thing. Yeah. That's it. Well, that's the thing. People like to romanticize
their stupid decisions. You know, like, I have no regrets. I did those things, and they made me exactly who I am. Well, you've basically taken a really crappy period of your life. And if you remember it, like, you'd actually go back and relive it again. You'd go, this was stupid. Why I'd… Why would anyone volunteer to do this? There are better ways to build character and integrity besides doing something dumb and taking the lashings for it. Like, I mean, you could at least you could at least play off, say, the wisdom card and watch that you knew it was gonna end up poorly, and then you skipped it. You know, baby did something hard that was good instead of just have it be hard just because you did something dumb. That doesn't equal virtue. A drug dealer might be pretty good at quick mental math, but that doesn't mean a math course wouldn't have been the better way to do it. Yeah. Right. Alright. Let… Hang on. Back it up for a second. Okay. This is a high school student and
her boyfriend is in college. So I'm gonna assume he is at least a student. K. With you. For both of them, their primary role in life right now is student, which means that they need to be making good grades. Now if she wants to not be a student after she graduates high school, that's fine. She can do whatever she wants. But right now, she is a student, which means that she needs to be applying and and getting the best kind of grades that she can. For what end? That… That's basically her her job right now is…… End though. To be a student. Yeah. But to to… I mean, but why? I assume graduation. Mean, I that's usually what students go for. So it's time to get out. It's it's a it's a waste. It's a waste of time and money. Mike, you've not only bailed on on college, but you're saying high school is outstudents. You know what? Just forget. Wait. Whatever happened to the old blacksmith apprentice? You know I'm saying? Where's that guy? People love him. The second time you said it last month, Mike. I'm just saying. People love that guy. Okay. But if that's the case, then drop being a student. Yeah. Get out. Okay. I'm with you. Right now, the thing is Then you just spend more time with Colton. That's her job. She's a student. She needs to be doing great. Be an apprentice to Colton. That doesn't work. No. No. No. No. You could still spend more time with her. Learning to be a a shoemaker. No. No. If she's if she's gonna be a legitimate cobbler, then she needs she needs to move to that and then can decide what time can be put to Colton. But, like, not going to school and being with Colton and not being a cover is not a I'm not saying that you gotta hang on to the guy with a rope. I'm just saying maybe you could spend eight hours a week with him instead of four.
Wait. Shoot. I didn't understand. That was per week? Yeah. Yeah. Woah. No. I agree with Dan. That's overly harsh. Well then. Oh, what if you guys were all like all in? I thought, really? Four hours a week? I was thinking a night. Like, we Oh, yeah. That'd be If you're go gonna out at six, you gotta be in by ten. That's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be all good. Sounds like a bandwagon in the opposition, but I actually thought the exact same thing. I thought it four hours a night. Hey, what the heck? Where were you guys fifteen minutes ago? I had to suggest he drop out of high school for you guys to pay today. I'm gonna be blatantly honest. Ben and I were talking about my juice. Who would drink too much juice now? According to the fake sugars in there. Anyway.
I mean I mean, we're we're… Would you rather be on… Us honest, be be honest about it? We we were talking about my juice. I'm sorry. Talk about boob's juice. I I don't mind the four hours a week kind of thing, but then again, I'm not really attached to people. So, like, I mean, I'd rather spend time alone by myself than be with people. For Andrew… Andrew Carson says four hours is way too much. So, like, give me a twenty five minute texting conversation. I'll be fine. Oh, I don't… I… I'd rather do phone than texting, but maybe three minutes phone call and I'm good. Yeah. Is it because texting is too much effort? Yeah. Alright. Okay. Here we go. We got one more. Ready? Yep. Dear life from the path, I'm on the verge of 30, and my fiance has a huge issue with the fact that I still cuddle with my moms.
What? Just can we stop right here? Wow. Can we stop right here and say whatever whatever story they're trying to tell us, they're wrong? Let me say four more words and then you can can speak on it. But then I still cuddle with my mom's. From what he says, his family isn't wild about it either. So it's a daughter cuddling with her mom. Still weird. Not a dude. Well, e… Moving on. Mom has suffered a great deal of loss in her life. She has lost all of her immediate family aside from her kids to cancer. We were all caretakers for these family members doing in home hospice, and we have a formed a unique bond. My fiance has never been to a funeral, so it's hard for me to explain this to him.
What? Mom was born. What kind of idiot is this guy? I don't understand funerals. Wait. What happens to those things, man? I've never been people walk away and don't come back. Sometimes they're dead. I dropped out of school early to hang out with Colton. Hey, man. I didn't graduate high school. I became a cobbler. Here it says, mom was born in a country in Europe where hugging and lots of affection are natural. You're… Okay. Moving on. I live in a but when I'm home, I will put my head on my mom's shoulder and cuddle with her while watching a movie. Sometimes in the morning, I'll bring her a hot cup of coffee, put it next to her bed, and jump in with her and her dog. We joke, laugh, cuddle until we have to get up. Is this something I need the professional help for as certain people have had the nerve to tell me? No. This is fine. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. Is fine. Yeah. Maybe you should stop dating Stonehenge
and go and meet somebody. I I was gonna suggest a dog or something, but it sounds like they already have one. So Ain't nothing wrong with cuddling with mom. Tough times. Love. Let's watch a movie. I don't I don't enjoy company of people, so I'm all against it. I'm against cuddling with mom. Yeah. I mean, just because everybody was born a pilgrim here in The United States, we're like, we don't we don't really wanna talk to anybody and touch them and, god forbid, give them a nice husky every once in a while. Ask them if they need something to eat because you got BK gift cards on you. Awkward. Yeah. Alright, Bubba. Go ahead. Disagree already.
Your face looks like you've got a poop. I am. I'm disagreeing. Man, I I… It's okay. So so… Okay. So I I disagree with some of the cuddling. Like, I understand sitting down watching a movie and put… Like, going like this. That's one thing. Like, putting your head on someone's shoulder is one thing. He didn't say she's like nuzzling her beard. Hey, I don't consider that cuddling. That's just sitting next to somebody. But like, I don't know. Maybe. Hold on a minute. That's not sitting next to somebody. If I were to sit next to Andrew I'll put my head on his shoulder. I'm gonna punch you in the face. That's
not That would be sit next to Andrew. That would be hysterical. No. I I don't know. Maybe I just think of cuddling differently. I don't know. Because… Okay. So so I'm I'm be I'm be really honest about something right now. Alright? Be for real, booba. So I drink Fake it. Fake it. After my dad died,
my mom my mom requested that. My mom asked me to to, like, lay in bed with her. Mhmm. And like sit on the couch and get like super comfy. Mhmm. Like put her… Put my arm around her and like she could lay her head on my shoulder and stuff like that. It creeped me out. Okay. I was 18 and I asked her why. Like I blatantly just said, mom, why? She goes, miss your dad. I said, I can't be that replacement.
Like, I can't be that physical replacement for you. That's not that's not comfortable for me, and that's not healthy for you. You… You're asking for a scapegoat. When it comes from the perspective of someone just being naturally comfy and naturally cuddly, like I understand that. That's one thing. But it sounds like this person's dealing with a lot like of of loss, and that was specifically called out by the daughter, and that is why it's happening. That's a different situation. Someone just being naturally cuddly is one thing, but someone reaching out for physical affection
because of a lack of people and the daughter filling that gap, she's putting off something that could be this woman moving on. So you're saying the source of this thing is is is much more… Is you've got more weight to it? Yeah. It's a lot it's a lot more than this just this woman is cuddly. Mhmm. It… It's it's broken down to this woman is missing physical affection that she got from those relationships, and she's asking for a scapegoat in those relationships to be her daughter. Now hold… We have a… The the the daughter's basically saying that that,
she's wondering whether she needs help because she's the one that's volunteering the cuddling. Because she's It trying to doesn't say that mom's asking Do I need to do I need to seek that out because other people have called it out? I don't think she thinks she's wrong. I think she just doesn't understand how to set those boundaries. Yeah. But that's And it's a difficult conversation to have. But that's still under the assumption that the mom is the one that's asking for it. Not that the daughter I did assume that. Yes. Not just the daughter's just cuddly on her own. No. I did assume that the that the mom was was asking for it based off the comments on the lack of relationships that have that have, people are passing away from cancer and stuff like that. And on top of the fact that the statement of my mom's from Europe and is naturally cuddly. I feel like that could be true though. Like there's… I mean there's there's places No. In African countries where like dudes holding hands is a pretty normal thing. Agreed. And like I said, naturally cuddy… Cuddly is one thing. I don't think this is naturally cuddly. Why? I think this is someone that's reaching out for affection that they used to get from a different relationship that isn't getting it now and wants it from her daughter.
I I don't know. There's there's there's some weird dynamics in there. Right? Like, there's a difference between if if it's like a son and a mom, but there's like a a masculine, you know, you know, have an arm around you, sets of protection, that kind of thing versus
your relationship with your daughter that is not replacing a relationship with a husband. I I don't know that that I can necessarily imply that it's the same problem. Okay. Well, that's the implication that I'm driving. I think… Yeah. I don't know about that. I feel like… I hear what you're saying, and I think you're I think you're right. And and it was very very impressive, Buva, actually. Like, that's a hard reaction to have is to say I can't be that. But it's… It suck. It hurt. Yeah. It hurt. To see your mom feeling that way and know that she otherwise is longing for something you can't reasonably provide in a healthy way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's difficult. But I don't I don't know. I… You… I probably have to know these people a lot closer to be able to make that. Okay. Looks fair.
Alright. Secular says, it should be clear to you by by now that you are engaged to a man who comes from a family that isn't comfortable with physical demonstrations of affection and is quick to judge others. Treasure the closeness you have with your mother while you have it because after she's she's no longer with you, that special kind of affection will be permanently over. For your fiance or his family to suggest that there's something wrong with cuddling with your mom or that you need professional help because you do it is both sad and wrong, many people would find the relationship you share with her to be enviable, and I am one of them. Yeah. Alright. I mean, here's the deal. It's like, whether the source of cuddling is
good or not good or whether it's the best situation, what really could be said is this man is a two by four. You're dating a two by four. He just… He's gone about this all wrong. His family accusations are wrong. Everything about the way that they're handling that situation, if if it comes from a source of pain or loss,
they're handling it poorly. If it comes from a source of you're European and you just love people and you're… And they're criticizing that, that's also being handled poorly. So, really, all we need to know is that the fiance and his family are wrong in every possible way. Yeah. Well, I think you always gotta be real careful when you're a party in a conversation of which you're the guy that says, yeah. You should go to counseling. Right? Like, it implies a serious ability to pass judgment on circumstances. May have overextended what you know or capable knowing. Yeah. That's certainly everything. We don't do hugs in this family. We do whiskey.
So change your ways. Mom's like to sit close on the couch. You need couch, man. You know that's in the wrong. But, hey. You've been listening to life for your path. Maybe you're covering your mom's right now. Make sure you do that in whoever you are. You… What's… You know, the big thing you were talking about Bob Eisenhower, blah blah blah blah. Club concert coming up. That's on Sunday. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Faithful in Needs got handled with you. Yeah. That's it. You've been listening to Live from Bath. We will see you guys next week. Thanks for hanging out.
