Live From The Path · Season 2017, Episode 15
Five Things to Stop in Your Twenties
Topics covered
- Show open — The produced intro and live opening of the episode. ≈ 0:08
- Cold-open joke — The dandelion joke used as the episode's cold-open comedy bit. ≈ 0:50
- Becoming men / adulthood — The younger co-host's story about farmer's-market trips, gardening, and adulting as markers of manhood. ≈ 1:20
- Manhood — What marks the transition from boy to man, discussed through the younger co-host's anecdotes. ≈ 1:20
- Episode rundown — Preview of the night's articles and segments. ≈ 5:48
- Life in your twenties — The Relevant Magazine list of things to stop doing in your twenties, item by item. ≈ 10:16
- Seeking approval — Stop looking for everyone's approval; self-worth vs. social-media validation. ≈ 10:16
- Intentionality over passivity — Stop expecting the life you want to arrive without intentional effort. ≈ 13:39
- Busyness vs. productivity — Being busy as a badge of honor and a form of passivity; knowing your lane. ≈ 18:20
- Calling and expertise — Whether to master many things or leave expertise to experts and stay in your lane. ≈ 18:20
- Dating and casual relationships — The call to do away with casual dating and its effects on young women. ≈ 32:12
- Healthy relationships — Stop expecting healthy relationships to just happen; be intentional. ≈ 32:12
- Family Radio post-Camping — How Family Radio fared after Harold Camping's failed rapture prediction and death. ≈ 35:53
- Christian media — Commentary on Relevant Magazine, Family Radio, and Answers in Genesis as Christian media. ≈ 35:00
- Loving people you don't understand — Mike's perspective on being bad at loving people with different life experiences. ≈ 38:14
- Identity in Christ — Giving up personal identity into Christ versus asserting uniqueness. ≈ 38:14
- Labels vs. persons — How group labels are used as weapons and defenses, obscuring the individual. ≈ 38:14
- Christ — Christ as the identity Christians point to instead of themselves. ≈ 52:55
Segments
- Show open 0:08–0:50
Produced intro voiceover leads into the live open from the Pathway Studios in Johnston. A host lets the younger co-host (addressed in the audio as "Bubba") tell a joke, thanks Dan, and asks that the laugh track not be turned on yet.
- Dandelion joke cold open 0:50–1:19
The younger co-host tells a dandelion joke ('What does a dandelion eat? … Dandigazelles?') as the cold-open bit; the hosts react that it made them feel sick, and one host notes he had eaten rough pizza.
- Becoming men: farmer's market, gardening, and a terrible joke 1:20–5:47
The younger co-host (addressed as "Bubba"/"Buva") recounts a friend's dandelion joke from a day of gardening, then describes a trip to the farmer's market with friends for produce, seeds, and plants, and being proud of a buddy calmly fathering his son through a tantrum. He muses that between that, changing his truck's air filter at O'Reilly's, and doing yard work, he and his friends have 'finally become men.' The hosts riff on whether unfunny people get credit for bad jokes, and one host ribs him for buying kohlrabi at the farmer's market.
- Tonight's rundown: three articles and Mike's perspective 5:48–10:13
A host does the station ID, plugs the video version of the show (lifefromthepath.org / YouTube) so audio listeners can see his visible disappointment, then previews the night: a Relevant Magazine article ('five things to stop doing in your twenties'), a Family Radio update after Harold Camping's failed rapture prediction, and an article on smartphones as Bilbo's ring from Lord of the Rings. The hosts detour into the pronunciation of 'memes' (not 'mems'), and a host says he had an epiphany he tried to shape into 'Pope-style advice' but abandoned it as hubris, offering 'Mike's perspective' instead.
- Stop seeking everyone's approval 10:16–13:38
The hosts read and discuss item one of the Relevant list: stop looking for everyone's approval. The article warns against changing yourself to please everyone and tying self-worth to social-media likes. The younger co-host pleads guilty as charged and says the last couple of months have changed him; the hosts agree not to let others determine your future or play the comparison game.
- Stop settling for the easy way 13:39–18:19
The hosts discuss item two, 'stop settling for the easy way,' and the related 'stop thinking the life you want will come without intentionality.' One host gives the younger co-host a pass, then shares how his wife and kids went to Montana for a week and, left home alone, he became highly intentional – installing garbage disposals, tilling the garden, and building a paver platform for the garbage cans late at night before rain – realizing he is capable of far more than he usually does. They agree the point applies to everyone, not just people in twenties.
- Be less busy: busyness, hipster hobbies, and knowing your lane 18:20–32:10
Unpacking the article's 'be less busy' subsection – having too much to do can be a form of passivity – one host argues busyness is a badge of honor and riffs on ditching a gas-station rewards card and throwing away anything untouched for a year (except photo albums), while the younger co-host admits he cannot say no and has piled on smoking meat, tea culture, and other hipster hobbies. One host suggests sticking to your lane and leaving expertise to experts ('hands and feet moving to the body'), the younger co-host counters that his twenties are for exploring, and the host concedes: the twenties are the time to figure out what you will and won't do with your time.
- Stop expecting healthy relationships to just happen 32:12–34:58
On the list's relationship item – do away with casual dating, leave toxic people alone – the younger co-host, speaking as a college student, delivers a fired-up monologue calling casual dating 'the most obnoxious and disrespectful thing on the planet,' arguing that 'Netflix and chill' culture destroys young women's self-esteem and that he sees them as 'daughters of my god.'
- List wrap-up: Relevant used to be more relevant 35:00–35:52
The final list item ('stop expecting your ideal future to happen without work') is judged a repeat, and the hosts conclude the five things are really two. They critique Relevant Magazine for phoning it in over the last ten years and the pressure to pad listicles, joking the article should have been called 'stuff everybody could do better.'
- Family Radio after Harold Camping 35:53–38:14
The hosts read a Christian Post update: nearly four years after Family Radio founder Harold Camping's death, the station is on the mend – donations up, and Answers in Genesis added to programming after Camping's 05/21/2011 rapture prediction failed and he retired. They joke that steady donations may be old folks who never cancelled bank drafts, confess their own forgotten gym memberships and streaming subscriptions, and riff on the prestige of the MySpace top-10 friends list. They note Answers in Genesis is 'the ARC people' and wonder what the radio program is called.
- Mike's perspective: labels, identity, and loving people you don't understand 38:14–52:53
The host addressed in the audio as Mike delivers 'Mike's perspective': reading the book I Am N about persecuted Christians and hearing TV criticism about race in America, he admits he is bad at loving people whose lives he doesn't understand – a black man in America, a Muslim American, a woman – and is tired of his first thought being the stereotype he grew up with. The hosts discuss how broad descriptions ('you don't know what it's like to be X') can be both true and used as weapons, how labels let people attack faceless groups instead of knowing individuals, and how Christianity uniquely calls for giving up personal identity into Christ rather than asserting uniqueness – illustrated by a Brad Pitt GQ quote reducing Christianity to dos and don'ts. The younger co-host adds the college view: campus culture splits between people militant about redefining identity and people too scared to talk about it, citing a heated marriage-and-family-class debate over gender and orientation.
- Close: give up identity, point to Christ 52:55–53:52
Wrapping the identity discussion, a host says he'd rather know people as individuals than as groups because his mind defaults to the easy label, and defines himself by 'the people I hang out with and my savior' – trying to give up his own identity and point toward Christ's.
Key questions
- What are the five things you should stop doing in your twenties? (host-framed)
- What does a dandelion eat? (comedy-bit)
- Am I guilty of settling for the easy way? (host-framed)
- How is Family Radio doing nearly four years after Harold Camping's death? (host-framed)
- How can I better love people whose life experiences I don't understand? (host-framed)
People
- Harold Camping
- Thomas Evans
- Bob Eisenlauer
- Brad Pitt
- Amanda
- Jared
Full transcript
Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the path. And you're listening to Live From The Path. We're coming from The Pathway Studios here in Johnston proper.
Alright, Bubba. Here's the deal. I'm a let you tell that joke. Yes. Alright. Here's the deal. Okay. Go ahead and fire it up. Thanks, Dan. Hey. Don't turn the laughter on yet. Alright.
What does a dandelion eat? Anybody? What? Dandigazelles?
Yes. I feel sick. Man. I also feel sick. Yeah. What's drink? Joke? Because he told that joke earlier and I didn't know I mean, I wasn't funny. I also ate some rough pizza, so, I mean, I couldn't pin it down. I was gardening today with a friend and he made that joke and I laughed. What? You were wait. I was like
yep. Me and Dan are stuck on the same detail. Yeah. Every part of the story is interesting. Hold up. You sorry. You were gardening with a friend? I was gardening with a friend. Yes. I need more detail. I'm pretty sure I've never said that with him through my life. What were you, Dan? Actually, that's a funny thing. That's gonna bring up something I wanna talk about. Me and my friends have finally become men. Alright? Recently, happened. No.
Do we were boys up until this point, but we took stock because on Saturday, we went to the farmer's market together. Okay? This has to do with gardening. We did not no. We did not go for anything shy of I needed produce, and, he needed, seeds and plants and stuff. Wow. And we're where do you guys keep the seeds and plants and stuff? Yes. Oh, wait. It's the first time here's the deal. It's the first time I've ever gone to the farmer's market not for a breakfast burrito. I was like, I actually wanna see what Iowa has to offer. Yeah. I have never been in a place in my life where I'm actually eating vegetables enough to need to save money on vegetables.
And so I'm just like, let's just see what's out there. And so walked around this farmer's market for, like, two and a half hours looking for stuff. I ended up buying a bottle of water, that was it because that stuff's ridiculously expensive. Yeah. Yeah. But Are you surprised that the vegetables did not come in, like, a white plastic bag No. I was from the freezer section? I was excited about that part Yeah. Because I was like, hey. Fresh produce. Good stuff. And, like, we have there's some sweet stuff in Iowa. We have, like, amazing grass fed beef places that, I'm excited to try steaks from there and then all kinds of stuff. Whatever. But, we we go there. We are with one of my buddies who has a son walking around. It is he's I love that guy, and he's taking care of one of my godkids. And he's doing such a great job, of, not arguing with him. Like, the kid was trying to go crazy, and, he did an amazing job just calming the kid down and just being a really good dad about stuff. And I'm like, this sounds really weird, and I don't know how to say this to you, but I'm proud of you, man. Like, as a man stepping up and being a good father and not getting aggravated about stuff when your son throws a temper tantrum, but truly
walking through it the way that you should. I'm proud of you. And I'm just like, did we just all become men today? Like, is this what happened? Because, like, earlier, I switched out the air filter on my truck, and that's not a very difficult thing to do. But six months ago, I would have never said to myself, hey. I need to do that. I'm a grab a screwdriver and do it and go to O'Reilly's and talk about stuff that I I know what I'm saying and actually get an air filter. Right? I got a red truck. But that all Do you have yeah. Exactly. Like, I knew this is my full move is pubescent change. He was like, I got a red truck. Yeah. Exactly. Finally in my life, I don't watch the O'Reilly's and go, it's blue and it's got an f. It feels like blue. I've heard the commercial say f series. I don't know what kind. No. I walked in. I gave the guy what I needed. I got an air filter, walked out and fixed it, and my truck runs a little better. So Wow. But so all this led up to today.
We are outside. They are working on fixing up a lot of the property value in their in their home because they're looking into selling it soon. And so we're doing gardening. We're putting a flower bank or a flower Wait. Wait. Is this the damn guy? Yeah. Because I he has no credibility right now. Well, we're put he's putting flower beds in the back, and I'm kinda helping him a little bit. And then there's a bunch of dandelions, and I offer to mow the backyard because it looked gross.
He was working on the flowers that yard need mowed. I thought that was kinda funny. But, and then he says, hey, man. What, what do dandelions eat? And I go, what? He goes, dandy gazelles. And we got a good chuckle out of that. I don't know if it was from heat exhaustion because we were outside day gardening or what, but, yeah, that happened. We're all men now. Like when those kind of jokes are told, like a bunny hops by with a rainbow trail out of his rear hind, and then just magic things happen. Right? That joke's terrible. Right.
Here's what I'll say, though. It was funny to me because it was on the spot, and my friend is not known to be that funny of a guy on the spot. Wait. So you can get you can tell bad jokes as long as you're not funny in general? Surprisingly not. Yes. I never thought about that. If I didn't spend all my time being hilarious, my jokes would cool right there. This work. If I let them be few and far between, they'd be much more magical. Exactly. Yeah. So I I'm gonna start following up every joke that kind of veils with, oh, I set too high of a bar. That's my problem.
If you go six months without making a joke at all and then you come up with a Yeah. That's true. If you if you come up with one that could be funny to, a five year old, right, then someone's gonna go, that guy's normally not funny at all. Great job. That's true. It's funny when the grandma passes gas. Right. I'm the people are just disappointed in me. Right. Exactly. I do it I do it often, and people are just like, hey, man. That's the third time in the last couple of minutes. It's like taco night last night. Leave me alone. Yeah. Okay. Noted. You're you're hanging out. You're listening to Life From The Path. Here's the deal. I I'm gonna tell you this. So if you only listen to the program on the audio podcast, you didn't get to take in the visual of my disappointment in Buva's description of what it goes on in his unmanly life and in that joke. So if you really wanna get the full effect of what I've thought about that, you go to lifefromthepath.org
and, or YouTube or whatever and just watch the show, and you can, I don't want you thinking that because I didn't say anything that I didn't have a reaction to it? Yeah. Disappointment takes many forms. Right. It applies something about my character that I just it's not right, and I I just I'd like to set the record straight by you looking watching my face as Buva tells that story about him and another dude buying kohlrabi down at the farmer's market or whatever. The nonverbal speak loudly. That's right. I'm trying to handle this in a Christian way. I want you to soak it in visually. Okay?
Alright. Here's what I going on the show tonight. Hey. There were a couple articles. Buva, how old are you? I 25. What? Good. That's what I thought. So there's there was an article on there's article in Relevant Magazine said, five things to stop doing in your twenties. Installing flower bank. Hey, man. It was pretty cool. Using app to determine manhood. Bought seeds. Checkers.
Use mems for reliable off Mems? Come on, man. What? Mems? It's not memes. Yes. It is. It's not a long e. Oh my gosh. Mem. Meme. It's
got Mike, it's gotta be I checked Is it an e? It's gotta be long e. I checked out the Memes. It's it's it's French. No. It's not. Mem yeah. Mem is French for saying. But it's not French. Meme Google. It's not even French for saying. I don't But you did alright. Anyway, so we're gonna talk about that.
There was an update. You guys remember when we were talking about, Harold Camping on Family Radio was was predicting the end of the world? Oh, no. Okay. So after his so he had said that this is gonna be all the people from from his station were, like, buying fancy cars, going all out, driving the buses around, and, of course, it doesn't happen. And so he he waits a few days and then ultimately retires, but he's still left with this radio station who was, like, really going full in with this propaganda. So we're gonna get an update on how they're doing. Oh, yeah. What is this? See what's going on in the family radio section. Wait. Here's the deal. We are living proof that you can have a terrible terrible show and still stay on the air. So, I mean, it shouldn't be a surprise True. If they're still running. They probably still have advertisers. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Speaking of ex advertisers that we used to have, I was I was tooting around on trash day in Pleasant Hill or whatever looking for garbage. Someone had thrown away two Bob Eisenhower. No. No.
I thought, that's wrong. That's wrong. So I'd love to find a Bob Eisenhower sign. I picked up signs up, I said, Bob, I'm dropping this crap off at your place. And he goes, hey. Thanks. Who is this? Seriously? Yeah. I had changed phone numbers, I forgot to tell Bob. And so I text him, like, hey, Bob. I'm throwing this crap off at your place, and I took a picture of his realtor sites. And so he could have taken that a multitude of ways. You know, like Maybe it was someone who was sick him being the realtor. You're a terrible realtor. I'm throwing these signs back. You know? But instead, he's like, hey. I appreciate that. Thanks for looking out for me. By the way, who is this? That sounds that sounds exactly like Bob Eisenhower. Bob Eisenhower is the kind of guy that if you text him something, he's not immediately gonna ask who it is. He's gonna try and handle the business first Yep. And then follow-up with, hey. By the way, I have no idea what this rocked it. I'm like, oh, crap, Bob. I'm sorry. This this is Mike. By the way, how many other people do you know that are digging through garbage?
He goes, good point. I should've figured it out. Yeah. So, anyway, we'll follow-up with family radio. We'll see if Boov is guilty of the five things it Most likely. I'm not sure these are men, really. They're I mean, they're something. They're they're they're manly. They have beards. But, anyway, they're supposed to stop doing these things in their twenties.
Also, there was a there's an article on seven reasons why your smartphone is Bilbo's ring from the Lord of the Rings. Oh. It's causing you the death to to to do valiant things and walk into a volcano. I never disappear when I put it on. Yeah. Actually oh, maybe that's the point. You disappeared to your family. Yeah. Was very that got deep. Shoot. It really did. It's gonna indict me and possibly Jared. Alright. Let's so, anyway, that's what we got. You guys got anything, Mike? What do got going on? Well, actually, I had a epiphany, and I tried to I tried to mold it into a Pope style advice,
but it just seems so full of hubris that I couldn't do it. So I just have a I have a I have a perspective. I did Mike's perspective, you call it that. Alright. We're gonna see how bad Pope is at being a 20 year old, and then you can do Mike's perspective. Okay. Alright. So, Bubba, five things hipsters are supposed to stop doing in his Alright.
Alright. You you're gonna fail the first one. It's gonna hit me hard. I know. I'm a total hipster. Here's the deal. I skipped too far ahead. If it's bad enough if it's bad enough, I will explain even more than this list of why I'm a hipster. But, Kiana are the things that I need to get rid of. Alright. Here we go. Your twenties are an amazing time of life, Bubba. That's why it pains me to see that you flounder in the deep end. Frankly, many of us are doing things we shouldn't, especially Buva. The truth is that the foundation you build in your twenties will shape the rest of your life. Studies back up back this up. 80% of life's most defining moments happen before the age of 35. It's all downhill from here, boys.
Shrek. You guys are just reactions to your defining moments. Maybe, like, what's it like? I can still change my ways. You guys are cemented. Man, this was supposed to harass Moova, but somehow it's turned around and slapped me. Whatever, old men. Maybe I didn't have an epiphany today. I just had gas or something like that. Obviously, new things can't happen to my about something new today, Buva. You know? Just a suggestion. I have an idea or a malfunctioning kidney. Here we go. The truth is that the foundation, yeah, blah blah blah, studies back this up. Here are five things you should stop doing. Number one,
stop looking for everyone's approval. Here's the deal. Totally. Totally true. Some call you part of the me me me generation or the me me me. Truth truthfully,
many 20 are plagued with the need for constant approval. What they got the social media icons blocking the rest of the story. Everyone around you doesn't have to approve of you. Sure. Validation makes you feel good, but so does a back massage. But when this becomes your end goal, you are arbitrarily change yourself in order to please everyone. Some people will like, some people will dislike you. Keep doing what you were called to do. So but I'm a say only half of that description is probably accurate. But, otherwise, do you do you send do you stand as a 20 year old, man, pseudo man, guilty as charged? Pseudo man, first off. Thanks for that. Here we go. Totally. Yes. Guilty as charged. Okay. Guilty as Okay. Am I allowed to defend myself at all or no? Yeah. But you're keep it to, like, thirty seconds. Don't I don't hear you blubbering on forever about it. Until the last six months. Yes. Completely.
But well, not even last six months. The last couple of months have totally changed that. Okay. You're a new man, a new booba. I well, I will say I'm in the process. Finally, I'm in the process of no longer being, worried about what everyone in the world thinks about me. I still am held by it a little bit, but it's it's going away. Okay. Have you stayed up more than one hour to watch how many likes you get on a post? Have I stayed up to do that? No. Okay. Done. K. Win. Win.
However how okay. However, my friends give me crap all the time because of how many I get. Fair enough. That's not your fault, though. It's not on you. I'm guilty of this, Agboova. I just think completely. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Alright. Let's see Number two.
Oh. Oh, wait a minute. That's is that the continuation beard and garden. No. That's continuation of number one. Holy cats. This way All number one. Okay. Self worth is not based on your social media likes or how your friends feel about them. Oh, no, boo boo. Hey, man. Yeah. Don't allow people to tell you that you're not capable because you're young.
Wait. Is that number two? I don't know. That's still number one. This is oddly formatted. Let's see. Don't allow c? Don't allow others to determine your future, one f. Don't play the comparison game. Alright. We're moving on. Okay. Two. Here we go. Yeah.
Stop settling for the easy way. It won't take you where you want. Guilty, BUVA? Are you guilty of settling for the easy way? Maybe a couple years ago. Don't be lazy?
I mean okay. Yeah. Sometimes I'm I'm still lazy in a lot of stuff, but, like, within the last year or two ever since kinda becoming more of a devout follower of Christ and trying to figure that deal out, it kinda eliminates the whole lazy thing. Well, it works to eliminate the whole lazy thing. I'm certainly not there yet. But seven years ago when I didn't really know Jesus, absolutely. But once I started figuring them out a little bit, it kinda started going away. Yeah. So I I don't know. As a man that knows boob, I'm gonna give you a pass on this one. I I don't think this applies to you. K. I I don't see you taking the easy way out. There there are subheadings where don't be lazy,
work in pursuit of your calling, not just money, leave your comfort zone, and don't play victim. I I don't know. Nope. I think I think that that's a full pass on a pass fail, I think you partially failed the last one. I think you're a full pass on it. Okay. Fair enough. What kind of article is this, Ben? I don't know. Okay. Continue on. Stop thinking the life you it's very poorly formatted. It's irritating me. Stop thinking the life you want will come without intentionality.
Okay. That's dope. We're gonna skip that one. Well, now hold on, Ben. That's true of everybody. You say that Right. I was gonna say No. Right. I get that part, but, like, I'm just thinking that, like, that that's not a 20 thing. I I think I think that applies to everybody. Yeah. You can be 85 and still think something's gonna come easily without you having to work towards it or actually work for it. Yeah. I mean, I know I know 60 year olds who are like who want their life to be different. And then, I mean, mean, literally do nothing. I mean, nothing to do anything about that. Yeah. You're 60 year old and you never once saved for retirement, but you're really hoping you're gonna be there when you're 65? Yeah. You're in this exact same boat. My mom was waiting for her ship to come in at 83. I'm like, mom, ship's probably not coming. But not not that. You're not even at the harbor anymore. What? Like like like lottery type action? Yeah. Yeah. That publisher's
clearing house, you know, all that kind of stuff. Oh, right. Right. Whatever. You got her in especially the Alzheimer's Day. It really did get her in trouble. Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, man. Sending money all over the place. I'm like, stop it. Stop it. That's not funny. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Thanks for laughing at my dead mother. Dang it. Oh, man. My guess, that's almost as bad as that shirt. I'm trying not to be passive. Yeah. Yeah. So it says don't be passive. Talk less about improving your life and actually do more. Okay. So agreed, but I think that's across the board. That's a that's a pretty people problem. Procrastinate
less. Here's the deal. I'm in the middle of this. Oh, yeah. I've noticed that, like so my wife went out of town recently, and her and the kids all went out to, like, Montana, and they were gone for a week. And, like, I'm never at the house by myself. I just like, I'm the guy that's gone for a few days or a week or six weeks or something and they stay home. So I was at home by myself and I thought like, I I'm gonna totally waste a week if I am not really intentional about what I do. So I made this like really huge list of stuff. Half of it is stuff that she well, I know she would have don't wanted to do. The other half are things that I feel like she never would have considered that I might get done this week and I thought I'm knocking it all out. So like I'm installing the dish or garbage disposals and water lines for the nice maker. Stuff been sitting for ten years that ain't got done. I did it as I am I I gardened. I tilled the garden. I put up some landscaping, all kinds of stuff. And so You could have gardened with Bubba. I know. I I didn't know Bubba had such a green thumb. I don't. I just am there.
So anyway, I I got I mean, I I got up at, like, 06:30 and I went to bed at 10:30, and only one hour of that was spent eating cereal and watching TV. I mean, everything else, I mean, I was on fire. I was blowing money at the home improvement store and then doing putting stuff into the house. And so I look back on that weekend and thought, I am lazy every other week in the in the year
besides this one. Like, all I had to do like, of this stuff only took an hour or two hours. The cute children are not a hindrance to me. I really could have done them with the kids around. There's no reason I couldn't have done And it made me think, like, how often I settle for and just put stuff off and say, oh, I can't get to that. Whereas when when they were gone, it was, like, seven what what time? It was, like, 08:30 at night. And I was it was supposed to rain the next day, and I wanted to build a platform for for our garbage cans. Right? So I was gonna put down, you know, a gravel base and some sand and then some pavers and a thing around it, and I thought, I gotta get this done before it rains. So, man, I was out there for two or three hours that night into the wee hours pounding pavers down, and it got done. It looks great. And I thought to myself, like, any other time, I would have just given up on it and said, I'll do it later, which meant, like, two years later. So, anyway, I I I mean, this what I find is that I can get a lot done. I just don't. I don't get a lot done. So So has Amanda planned her next trip yet then?
No. Hey. That is a good that is a problem, Roy. I've set a high bar. It's my jokes. My life is my jokes. Alright. Be less busy. Dang. Crap. Hold up. Buhva, what do you think on that? How are you doing on being busy? Okay. Give me more context. What do mean be less busy? Yeah. It says, things you gotta stop doing. So so stop thinking the life you want will come without intentionality,
and part of that is to be less busy. Hold up. Is is be less busy a part of the is a subsection of don't be lazy? Yeah. Or stop thinking the life you want will come without intentionality. And that manifests itself as be less busy. Yeah. So it says, yes. Having too much to do can be a form of passivity. Being busy is easy. In the twenty first century, it's a badge of honor, but being busy doesn't translate into high productivity.
In a world that's deluge with to dos, focusing on working smarter, not harder. Focus on your stop doing list instead. This will help you focus on what matters most. Okay. Hey, man. I believe that a 100%. I he said some weird stuff there. Right. The the truth is is the that most of us are busy with crap we have no business doing in the first place. Like, we it literally does not matter. And you know where they get you? I was thinking about this the the other day because they the one of the gas stations gives you, like, this rewards card. Right? And I thought, yeah, yeah. They can get, like, free free pizza and free soda if you get so many points. I'm like, this is great. And then I thought I thought about it. And, like, by the time it takes me to swipe it, put in my phone number, blah blah blah blah blah, do this thing right, I I'm basically gaining about 3¢
every time I swipe this thing. And so, like, a month and a half later, I'll get one free piece of pizza. And I thought to myself, is this really worth my time? Like, is it one more thing to have to remember, not lose, keep track of, think about, wonder how many points I how close I am to this free pizza that I want. Right? I'm like, the pizza's $2.50. I'll just buy the pizza, you know what I'm saying, and be done with it. But, like, it's just one more thing to remember and to do and, like, one more one more baseball team to be on, one more thing that you're gonna be good at, where you have five other things that you're half good at and you actually love one of those things. You're participating in 10. The one you actually love is sitting there waiting for you to eventually get back to it. And you're like, you know. And and then and then your kids wanna talk to you or your wife wants to talk to you or they wanna go to the park for the night and you're like, no. I got I got too much to do. We're not going to all you guys wanna do is go to the park and tell me about your stories or blah blah blah blah blah blah. And you're like, something wrong here. Like, your priors get all flipped around because you to do way too much crap. Way too much. I I have the same rule about stuff that's been in my house longer than a year. If I have not touched it in a year, I throw it away. It just leaves my house. It can go. That includes bolts and couches and and TVs and whatever else is sitting in my house. Games, if we have not played them for a year, we don't like them. Stop fooling yourself. Get rid of them. Right? You don't need it. Get rid of it. And, like, man, it makes life so much easier. Oh, man. Now I need to go clear out my house too. I'm telling you. You don't even realize how much crap you actually do not need until you looked at it and thought, have I touched this thing in the last six six months? Like, you keep a picture of your parents or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't throw away your photo albums. But, like, I I good night. I mean, that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, you know, VHS cassette that you still carry around for the last five moves, get rid of it. You don't need that. Yeah. Oh, man. The sad thing is is I have one of those. Yes. You do. Don't make me throw away my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. You can watch it for free on YouTube. Yeah. That's that's true. Bubba, the the time to to stop celebrating,
your your Book It achievement that gave you that VHS is over. Hey, man. I was excited about that VHS. I wrote 30 books this summer. Free tapes. Here's what I will say. I I now that it's been kind of switched in explanation, I agree. I I have very hard time saying no. And a lot of the times that leads me down the path of, like, doing a lot of stuff that seems like it could be cool if the right person's doing them. Right? Like, I cannot possibly be passionate about everything.
It's just impossible. To give the point to this person who's writing this article, hipsters totally do this, and myself included in that statement. We think one thing is cool, and so we wanna know everything about it and therefore do it all. And so,
smoking meat. I recently got super involved in that. Like, I, my buddy is a charcoal smoker. I have electric smoker getting really involved in it. I'm, like, learning the intricacies of it and, like, different cuts of meat and all this different stuff. I'm spending ridiculous amount of time doing this. And that's, like That's, that's called autism. What?
You focusing on that I'm on the spectrum? I'm just saying. You're describing part of the spectrum of autism. Focus. Smoked bites is all bottles. Collect bottles now. Apparently, everyone who focuses on a skill is therefore autistic now. Nice. Dan. It's the big thing now. I'm gonna give Dan the benefit of the doubt here. But I mean, that's Holy cow. Flew in from nowhere, Dan. I really
out of all the comments that I thought Dan was about to make when he went, you have autism was not one of them. Boom. You found yourself on the twentieth. Today? Oh, yeah. Right. Right. It's the immunizations that they did back in the twentieth. Ultimately, it's it's it's the what like, the jack of all trades thing, but, like, we forget the second part of that and that is the master of nothing. And so, like, I'm excited to to get involved in this. I think it's a cool skill to have. But I also just help someone build a table,
which I'm I'm not good at and will never get involved in that. And to gardening gardening today. And I got a buddy who drinks tea, and he like, seriously. I'm not kidding. I didn't see that coming. No. I but but hold up. You're an old man. I you skipped the thirties for I'm not just saying, like, drinks, like we, like, we go to a a tea shop downtown in the hipster area. Yeah. That's a real hipster thing to do. Oh, totally. It really is. Hey. Here's what I'll tell you. Oh, Gong Fu tea is pretty cool, though. Gong Fu is the best. Gong Fu is straight up awesome. If you walk in there, it smells incredible. Second off, I I quit drinking caffeine entirely. I have caffeine free for over three months now, and I stopped drinking pop, and I stopped drinking all flavored things except for, like, sparkling water, and I wanted something, like a warm drink at night. And so I decided to get some loose leaf tea. Like herbal tea. Right? Yeah. Herbal tea. Because it has caffeine in it. Right. I have I have caffeinated herbal tea, or decaffeinated herbal tea that's, that's raspberry stuff, and I love it. And I think it's awesome. And I don't have, like, a tea infuser nor do I have a specific tea mug. Well, you might as do it right, boo. I know. Look. That here's the sad part. I totally I totally thought about getting a tea infuser because I have to jimmy rig it right now where I'd lay I'll hang the tea bag on a plastic fork that I put on the outside of my That works. My mug,
and it just looks totally, janky. They they make those guys that look like they're taking a bath in it. You guys seen that? It's like a there's so there's a they make a a a tea infuser shaped like a dude That's awesome. Elbows up, and you put the tea in his belly, and then he leans on your cup like That is amazing. Like he's soaking in it. I I actually just found of tea. I just found a tea infuser that's a death star, and I'm really excited about that because my star my mug is a Star Wars mug my girlfriend got me. And so Do you have a tea mug? Well, it's a coffee mug that she got for me, and then I stopped drinking coffee. I changed it into a tea mug. Changed it to a tea mug. Because I am. But I don't do anything official. I literally have, I we have a Keurig machine, and it just it spits out hot water. And so I just and cancer. And well, yeah. I pressed the button, and it just it puts a predetermined amount of hot water in there. They've said boil it specifically to 208 degrees. Let it sit for three and a half minutes. I'm like, I literally have a K Cup machine that I'm gonna make certain there's not a cup in there, and I'm gonna lift the lid and close the lid and press big.
And then it's gonna shoot out hot water Yeah. And I'm gonna let it sit in there until I drink it. That's exactly what do feel like I'm robbing the tea of its natural flavors because I have no thermometer or anything to tell. I'm just whenever the thing goes According to ancient thousand year old tradition, you are, but I kinda don't wanna spend that much time on it to where I'm just like, this still tastes good. Thermometers either. When I was in China, they actually told us that they pour out the first batch of tea, and they actually don't even drink that part. They do the second time as the actual tiny actually. See? That's insane. And that's a there's a cool devotion to that, but, like, I'm just not in on it. No. I don't think you need to be. But there's so many things. Right? Though but but you don't Yeah. Exactly. Things that, like, I'm I'm I want to be involved in because they're all cool things, and there's something there's an awesome culture behind the whole tea thing, and, like, there's cool flavors to be found. And the foodie scene is really cool to get involved in to where you find new restaurants, and you get to talk to cool people. And getting involved in a butcher scene where I actually have a I have a guy who's a butcher that's actually helping me learn how to cut different types of meat. Like, I'm excited about that. Now I haven't taken it so far as to, like, be time consuming yet. I mean, I don't do So let me let me ask you a question, boo. Yeah. Isn't I hear what you're saying. Right? Like but, like, every part of me wants to go, I don't really wanna know about different types of cuts of meat. I just wanna say, hey. Give me the type of type of cuts of meat I need. Right? Like, I don't wanna learn how to cut hair. I just want someone to do it for me that knows how to cut hair, because I don't wanna learn how to do it. Like, I wanna be good at what I'm good at and they're good at what they're good at, and then all of a sudden, we got hands and feet moving to the body, doing something. Right? And so, like, I'm not saying what you're saying is bad, but, like, every inclination I have is is, like, not that you just have to be a one trick pony, but, like, good night. I I you know, if I just wanna be able to walk into the haircut lady and go, do whatever you normally do. Right. I don't make decisions here. You're the haircut lady. Do what you do. And that's totally true. I I I agree with that to a point, but I I I like knowing this stuff. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. And maybe it's just my personality when it comes to, like, wanting to know more about everything and not I don't wanna be the best at anything. I just I like to know about stuff. I would like to be mediocre at the risk. Yeah. Sure. That's it it you can look at it that way if you want to. That's totally fair. That's how I'm gonna say it. Go ahead. Because I tell yeah. Mike so so Mike's gonna Mike's like Mike's in for hands and feet. Boob is in for elbow, calf, toe, butt cheek. I'd like to be the b level body parts in this this scenario.
It is I mean, it is interesting. Right? Because, like, you can't Mike Mike, your version is you take in the world, but you leave you leave expertise to expertise, and you just you don't even wanna know the details about boovoo, on the other hand, is in the same is actually in the same realm. He's saying, look, I care about your expertise, and I'm interested in to hear you talking about it. Sure. The overstep is probably when you decide you in on whatever all these expertises are and that you're gonna be part of all that. The likelihood is that you're actually not you're, like, pseudo engaging in everybody else's passion without actually being part of your own. And it's when you invest in it too because then you've got you've invested money, time, and everything else into it. Like, once I bought, like, a thing so I could do so I can make audio tracks Yeah. I spent a lot of money on it, I was like and then ended up selling it all back for half of what I have I bought it for because I didn't have time to learn how to do it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm gonna do this thing. You're like, nope. Nope. Not gonna this.
Is it okay if I don't invest and I just like, I exist with other people who mad. Anything wrong with what you're saying. Like, I don't think it's a bad thing. Okay. But and here's this thing is, like, sometimes we we forget that, like, we have the the culture has taken a point where, like, we all the base things that everybody used to know is is not what everybody used to know. Right? Like, everyone used to know how to butcher their animal because that's what they have. Yeah. Right? They cut their own meat and they that's what they cooked night. So so if someone said, hey. I caught a fish or hey. I got a we need a chicken for tonight. There isn't a one man in the county that couldn't butcher his own chicken. And so, like, we've lost a lot of that because we farmed out a lot of what it takes to live on a day to day basis out to, you know, other people, the corporations and whatever. Right? So, like, some of that base stuff, I'm not saying, like, you shouldn't know how to cut meat. Actually, I think that's probably a useful skill. I stink it at gutting a fish. Right? I'm just terrible at it. Right? I wish I was better. I just am not good at it. And and I would like to have that as a skill so I can cook my own fish when I catch them. Right. But on the whole, do I need to what would be a good example? Like, I don't really need to know how to troubleshoot network administration. Right? Like, when my crap ain't working, I just wanna call a guy and say, hey. Look. Can you do what you normally do? I don't wanna have to explain this to you. I'm only gonna say it in dumb man terms anyway. It's not working. Go go fix it. You know? Because that's what he does. Right? And then when his his stuff's broken, he can call me and say, look. Can you just stop by and look at it? Because I'll just make it worse. You know, the way you're putting it okay. So I agree it's not a bad thing, but, like, I'm maybe this is a reaction to my earlier laziness.
Like, I think that I've existed in a place for so long that, like, I I do farm everything out. Like, Mike helps me with everything car related. Okay? So I'm terrible with vehicles, and up until a year ago, whatever happened or not a year ago, a couple months ago. Whatever happened with my vehicle, I would immediately call him regardless if it was a big issue or not. Be like, hey, dude. I have no idea what's happening right now. I'm almost crying. I'm I'm scared. Please help me. Right? But within the last couple months, I've decided, okay. Try and figure stuff out. Even if it's small stuff. Whatever. Like, just say to yourself, you don't have to call someone to figure this out. Just spend ten minutes figuring it out. It's actually helped quite a bit. Sure. Cooking is the same thing. I have to cook for myself every day now because I I'm just doing different things where I'm not eating the same things I used to. And I'm learning how to cook different stuff because, like, I don't wanna just eat scrambled eggs all day every day. But, yeah, Saturday, I smoked 20 pounds of brisket because it was on sale, and I'll have that for the next two weeks to eat. And that's a cool thing to have, and that's a skill to have that I had to invest in someone else and learn how to do that and understand different methods when it comes to using charcoal versus smoker. It's just I don't know. Maybe it's just my my overreaction
of me being super lazy most of my life and trying to figure out for once just fix stuff yourself and don't tell everyone else you need it done. Here's the thing, Buva. Actually, I think I agree with you more than I agree with this article. Though, like, that twenties is your time to figure that stuff out. Right? You should probably have that start to get whittled down by the time you're 35. Right? Like, here's what I'm gonna be doing with a good amount of my time. Here's what I'm not gonna be doing. Right? Like, it turns out that I'm not a painter, so I'm not gonna paint crap anymore. It's done. I've done. Bought the easel. It was a disaster. I sold it. We're done. And so I don't do so, yeah, your twenties is the time to figure this stuff out. I redact everything I said. How about it, Poohba? Alright. I made a mistake just like I did in my 20.
Let's see. The next one was stop expecting healthy relationships to just happen. That's I mean, it's kinda the last one. Right? Being intentional about the things you're doing. Yeah. So I would agree with that. It said do away with casual dating. Leave toxic people alone. Okay. As a voice of my generation right now, be amongst the five of us. Okay? I agree with this entirely. Casual dating is the most obnoxious and disrespectful thing in the planet. It really is. And, unfortunately,
the dudes of my generation are so stupid that we have made it to where we are we are a generation of Netflix and chill and Hangouts. It's ridiculous. And we look at it from the perspective of saying that, we don't wanna commit to something. We're just trying to have fun and blah blah blah. But what we're doing is we're undermining and disrespecting the self esteem of most of the women that we come across and talk to. And what it turns itself into is women that do not know that they deserve better than a guy that just wants to hang out. They deserve to have someone who cares about them and invest time
and money and emotion and mental being into them. And it drives me so insane because I'm in college right now, and I run into so many girls that are, like, 18 to 24 are already destroyed because of the guys that have come in their lives claiming to be men that wanted to hang out, have sex, do all of the stuff without any of the consequences, and they destroyed
these girls' self esteem. And I look at them as daughters of my god, and it hurts me. It seriously hurts me. And as a dude that I wanna be a father someday and have children, and if the good lord wants to give me daughters, I swear to you, if a dude shows up at my house and says, hey. I'm here to hang out, and I'm like, I will smack you across the face because I know what that means. Yeah. And it hurts me. And, honestly, that that like, every generation deals with that. Right. I mean, I'm I'm It's the twenties of every 20. You know? Right. Yeah. When I was 20, all my friends were doing that stuff, and and I was just like It kills me. Nope. I'm so sick of little boys parading around as men and using big boy tones and and making big boy actions that they do not have the ability to do, and the repercussions are awful. And it hurts me, and it pains me as someone who knows the worth of them.
And then I'm sitting here trying to convince them from afar because I can't really do much because I can't get that emotionally invested into every girl I meet. That's impossible. I'm trying to focus on mine. But, like, I wish that I could just convince them, hey. The guys that you've run into that have destroyed you, that have made you feel terrible, and have given you absolutely no worth, they are completely wrong, and you cannot be more wrong about your self image based off of what that jagging ape just said to you or what that jerk off just did, and it kills me. It seriously kills me. Sorry. I that's just it's one of ugh. It gets Mova fired up. It really does. The last one was stop expecting your ideal future to happen without work. Again, that sounds like the previous Literally the same one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the end of the list. So be intentional about your stuff. Stop being too busy just for the sake of being busy, and man the heck up.
Yeah. Relevant used to be more relevant. Yeah. Yeah. I think the last ten years, they've kinda like She's phoning that little bit. I used to love reading it. Yeah. I used to subscribe to it back in the day when it was hard. I well, I think there's a pressure to complete a list. Yeah. I can't just say, hey. We're one thing to do in your twenties. Feels like it is not worth his money. 15 reasons to stop reading lists. Yeah. Try getting the article to write too. Like, oh, let's do a list. Yeah. They could've just called that stuff everybody could do better by John. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody could do better, all that stuff. Part 19. So list of five things, it's really two. Yeah. So
it said we're talking about family radio. So after Harold Camping goes, donations are up, and Answers and Genesis joins their programming. So it's nearly four years after the death of its controversial president, Harold Camping. Family Radio appears to be on the mend with a reported increase in donations and the addition of entities like Answers and Genesis to its regular programming. Family Radio garnered national headlines when its founder and former president predicted that the rapture would occur on 05/21/2011. Thomas Evans, current president and general manager of Family Stations Incorporated, told the Christian Post that listener support has remained steady with a slight increase since 2013.
You think it's a bunch of old folks who don't know how to cancel the bank draft? Yes. Like, they set it up a few years ago, and they just I mean, they just have no idea how to even stop the thing, and so it just keeps funding it. I think that happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's not even old folks. Sometimes I do that. What do mean? Like, I don't cancel stuff that I oh. Like magazine subscriptions? I belong to a gym for a year and a half today. That's what I'm saying. Like, there was It's like $75 a month. Oh my goodness. I used to pay for an online streaming service that I don't think you I use anymore at all, and I still pay for.
Yeah. They may not be around anymore. I might never check on that. So paying for your Myspace page too? Yeah. My top 10 best friends on MySpace. Hey, man. That was a prestigious thing. When you got when you got into someone's top 10 on their friends list and you had not previously been there, that was a big deal. Really? That meant that you're moving up in their life and your life. I showed up here's the deal. I showed up on someone's hero's part one time. Someone posted a picture of me from my Myspace on her hero section.
There's no reason I should ever be anyone's hero, especially when I was 17 years old, but it certainly felt great when I was 17. And I was recently reminded of that by my friends. Tricky. Man, my son. Anyway Sorry. Go ahead. They're doing alright. They're doing alright. They're, they're they're getting some legit programming, and donations are up. So once you get doctrine does well. It just does. Yeah. It's it's weird. It's kinda I mean, just bizarre to Well, there's a reason candy coating tastes good. Yeah. The answer is in Genesis. Is that the people who that's not the the ARC people, is it? Yeah. Is it? Yeah. It's the guys who do the ARC. Disappointing. Yeah.
Yeah. I wonder what the radio program is. Is it by chance called live from the path? No. No. No. I'm sure it's called answers in Genesis. Just checking. Alright. Anyway, that was it. That was that one.
We're we're we're caught up on the news. Mike, what what is your what's your attitude? Alright. So I was listening to the I've been I've been reading the I Am N book or whatever. Is that what it's called, Ian? I Am N? Yeah. The Nezrani. The The Nezrani. Yeah. So I've been reading that book again, and
and then I was I was listening to the the the I am Nezrani book. It's basically a story about a bunch of, you know, Christians throughout the world and and some of the persecutions that they go through. Just some of the backgrounds of their stories of what what happens to them and and, know, most of them are are within, you know, Muslim controlled nations and that kind of jazz. So anyway, I've been reading that book to feed into it a little bit. And then I was driving into work today, listening to a news story, they were talking about,
a couple of shows that had that were coming up for network TV about race in America, like what it's like to be a black man in America and and whatever. You know, and and the TV critic was giving us his 2¢ worth on why that some of this was good and some of it was no good or blah blah blah blah blah. And I thought, you know, for the life of me, I really I really I really stink at this. Right? Like and and I think I think the true the truest thing I can do is just admit that I stink at it. Right? Like,
I have a certain I have a certain cultural upbringing. I mean, I grew up in the middle of Whitey McWhiterson Midwest, you know, Des Moines, Iowa. And there are certain things that I am not gonna understand about what it's like to be a black man in this country. You know what I'm saying? Right, wrong, or indifferent. Whether the man committed a crime or didn't commit a crime or did this or didn't didn't do that, there are things about that man's life I'm just not gonna understand. There's things about his family I'm not gonna understand. There's things about being a Muslim American here that I don't understand. There's things about being a woman that I don't understand. Right? And so I think
I was thinking about it today and I was actually praying about it a little bit as I was driving into work. I'm like, I just I really wanna have a better a better love for people without bringing all my crap in there. You know what I'm saying? Like, if someone says, look, you know, you don't understand the situation of my I'm in. You didn't grow up as a as a black man in in in America.
Like, my first thought is is, like, what the heck does that matter? Right? Like an an egotistical fool. Well, it it matters it's all of it matters. Right? That that the whole thing matters. It doesn't give you a license to to to act in, you know, abusive or or terrible ways or anything, but, like, there's a certain set of circumstances that I drew across the board. Just like the just like we were just talking about earlier about the guy that could butcher his own chicken. Hundred years ago, everybody butchered their own chicken. Everybody plowed their own fields. Everybody took care of their own house. That was culturally true for everybody. Right? And when I when I look at my upbringing, I go, you know, everybody got to go to school. Everybody ate at least two meals a day. You know, everybody had clothes. That's not true for everybody. That's not true for everybody. Right? Everybody got to come home and they weren't wailed on by their old man. Okay. That's not true for everybody.
I mean, I I grew up in a in a single parent household. Right? And I would not have been able to tell you the difference on what a single versus a married household looked like. Right? But there are parts of that that that will equal a deficit to me later in life. Just frankly, because I just didn't have a I didn't know how to run a marriage. I didn't know how to run a marriage when I got married. I never saw one going down, you know. And so, like, the things where where sometimes we go, look, I'm tired of you playing the race card. Well, look, it's a legit card. I don't know that you get to play for everything. Right? But it's a legit card and we have to I I just I feel like sometimes I I don't know. That,
there are times when people are are playing their their their card of, like, I grew up poor or I grew up as a as a woman or Muslim or whatever, you don't understand this about me. And what I have to stop what I have to start remembering is is that those things actually are true. Whether I wanna hear about it, it might not even be relevant to relevant to the conversation we're having right now, but it is still a fact. I don't know what it's like to grow up a Muslim in this country. I'm sure it's crappy. Right? I'm sure it's crappy. I don't know what it's like to grow up as a black man, a black woman, a Hispanic man, whatever, a Korean. I don't understand any of those things. Right? But I do know you as people, and I can do better at that. Right? And so anyway, I was just trying to think of how insignificant I shouldn't say insignificant. I was trying to think how I can I can humble the way that I look at the world? Right? Like some of the stuff that's going on in The Middle East, especially for Christians, I read these stories and they don't actually sink below a recognizable level to me. It's like when someone says, hey, you're going take a mortgage out for $150,000
I go, yeah, that's just an unreal amount of money to me. If someone said, hey, your car is broke, it's gonna cost you 600, that's devastating. I'm like, $600? Where are we gonna get $600?
Right? But they're like, sign right here for a $150. I'm like, yes, no problem. I don't even even know what that means. It's an outrageous amount of money. And so I get the same thing when I read these stories about the way these you know, some of the Christians in The Middle East are are are treated, you know. They're like they say stop talking about your Jesus and and and praise Allah. And when you don't, you know, we're gonna we're gonna stick you on a a chunk of ice and then beat you with a belt. And I'm like, man, don't know. I mean, that sounds like it's rough, but it it can't sink past a certain point for me. I don't actually realize what they're saying. You know? And so I feel like I do that a lot. I feel like I do that a lot. I feel like I do that with people that I don't understand, you know, where they don't have the same upbringing that I that I do and with people that are going through through things that I don't understand. And I thought on the whole, I just I'm tired of sucking at this. You know what I'm saying? I'm tired of not being able to take in a whole person and only taking in an issue or, you know, the the political pros for the day. So anyway, like I said, there's not really pope style advice there. It just it just kinda hit me that there's a there's a certain amount of what God's currency is people. Right? God, he he's done everything for his for his people. That's what he does. And so he has spent all his time on creating a world, creating a relationship, creating the an ebb and flow and a and a design merely for his people. It's all for his people. I could at least take the same consideration. I could at least try to take them in as who God says that they are. And boy, I just I I really suck at that sometimes, you know. I I just like to do better. I don't want my first thought to be the stereotype I grew up with. Right? And maybe that's gonna be a hard fight. Because maybe they think the same thing about me. Right? But, like,
I I don't know. I I don't wanna settle for the first thought being whatever whatever I grew up with is the first is my first impression of folks. Like, I want God to change that in me. So anyway, that's what I was thinking about this morning. Well, I think I think what's interesting there is is recognize that that actually you, what you're talking about wanting to do and what people are generally expressing, like, when they're saying, you don't know what it's like to be x or y or z in America. Like, really all they're saying is, like, you don't under you don't know me. Right? Like, you don't understand me. You don't understand my story.
They've, we may say, look, you've bundled a bunch of stuff, and it's it's a cheap description to say it's it's attached completely to your Racer. To your skin color. Right? Right. So, like and it's just as cheap on on my side of the conversation as it would be for the person that said it. Right? But, like, here's the deal. I what they're expressing, if I can give benefits of it out here, what they're expressing is you don't know what it's like to be me. And the truth is they're probably right. Yeah. And until I've actually taken the time to do that,
I should be real careful before I talk real broadly. Right? So, like and I think I think you're right. People some people will use that will use a broad description as a weapon where we if we say, look, we just don't do broad descriptions. You you you say, like, I if if I need to know somebody, then then let's oh, let's do that. Let's have that conversation. How do I get to know somebody, and, like, I don't accept the the broad description that says you don't know what it's like to be a, let's say it's a black man in America. Right? Are you telling me I could take two black fellows in here and, like, their lives are all the same? One guy had a dad that wailed on him, one guy didn't? Sure. Like, one guy like, they all you know? Yeah. You start narrowing down and say, you don't know what it's like to be a black man living in Cabrini Green
in the mid seventies. I mean, okay. Alright. Now we're starting to share some context. Right? And I get it. And it may and it may very well be true that there are characteristics of of our culture that you can paint with a broader brush. But the thing is is, like, I actually don't know that because it's not been my life. And so
how do you how do you remedy that is when someone says, look, don't understand me because blah blah blah, then I say, great. I would love to hear the whole context. I wanna know. But I think there's a I think it's it's masterful that Satan has not honestly done that in a lot of ways because he has allowed us to put them on ourselves so that we can use them as defense mechanisms, and he's also allowed people to do them to use them as weapons. So it's like it's it's what it's what you do. Like, everything is politicized. Everything is a label. If you if you hide behind the label, you don't have to deal with the person that you are. Right. Or the or the the I mean, that's everything about you know, every social, uprising that that comes about is because it's all about a label that you've been able to put on yourself and say, okay. This is what we're for as opposed to the value of the person themselves.
So if you put a value on the label that is out in front of them, then you can attack the label all you want Right. And forget about the person behind it. Right. Right. Because it's not personified. Right? Right. As opposed I get to say these people, I get to deal with big groups, I get to deal with big ideas. Don't have to look individuals in the face. I don't have to look circumstances in the face, maybe things that I don't wanna deal with because I can group them, and then I can do so in a faceless way. Right. But you know what's funny is though, I I would promote the exact opposite for the Christian people. I would prefer if we were thought of as a as a a group congruent in behavior. You know what I'm saying? That the the love was obvious. And, like, it doesn't matter which one of us you found, we're pretty much the same. You know? We love like God we love like Christ loves it. And, like like, we're I'm promoting the exact opposite with my Christian faith, but then looking at everyone else, on individual gray. Right. It's supposed because we're not fighting for our own identity there. Right? Like, the basic this is the basic nature of Christianity, which doesn't fit nicely into any other belief system, which is to say ours is to give up. Ours is to give up our own identity and have it just be in Jesus and try to and make that consistent across the people group. Whereas, the other the other ways of doing that and almost any other belief system or cultural norm or whatever are a quest to show
Yes. Uniqueness. Yes. See me, know me, this is me. Yeah. And we're like, I don't really matter. What do you think of Jesus? Like, mean, it's just Christianity is different. And every people group has has its way of of putting their own values on that. Like, I was reading an article. I have come come across, Brad Pitt was on this article for GQ. And, like, he was, like, talking and one of this the the paragraphs that came through, and, actually, I think I saved it. He talks about Christianity, of course, puts the f word in it.
But he talks about how he didn't really buy into Christianity because it was all about, doing and not doing. And I was just I I was blown away by it because I was just thinking the world is so confused, about what what is in what Christianity is. It's not a list of dos and don'ts. You know, it is a relationship with with a creator who loves us, and and it's about that identity. And the same thing happens when we look at every other, you know, label people group. You know, we think, okay. This is what their this is what their beliefs and their values are. They're a list of this. They're a list of that. As opposed to, no. They're people who have a love for this. So there are people who follow this. So there are people they're it's all about, you know, they they're just a list of this and that's all they are. And we we want that taken off of us just as much as, you know, they want it put on them. Yeah. And it's confusing.
Right. Ultimate's laziness. Yeah. What a backwoods redneck way of doing something. You know I'm saying? That's that's I just I you know, that's crap. I just think it would do better. That's all. Bubba, what is it with that conversation, does that, as a man in college and kind of around of a different
age range of folks, do you feel like that's still a relevant conversation for you? In in regards to just Christianity in general? No. I suppose the the labeling
of of folks, like, the the search for unique identity, the concept that says, like, we do we is it is it a struggle? Where Mike is saying, look. I I struggle with trying to reject or or not accept people's self description of where they're at, of what their stories are, but otherwise, like, pursue deeper than that so that we're seeing people on a on an individual level versus, some of the what Jared is describing, which is kinda of this, easy labels make easy targets, which makes, not
being responsible for how we react to those big things as opposed to dealing with people as as individuals. Ultimately, it's this weird this weird place where where everyone in college is trying to define themself and walk on eggshells with everyone else at the same time. Have rallies of people that wanna talk about certain subjects that that, or identities, whether it be,
Muslim Americans that wanna argue about what ISIS is and how it has nothing to do with with actual, Islamic faith and all this different stuff. Then we have teenagers that have not had any kind of difficulty in their life from what I've seen that wanna sit there and talk about,
the hardships that they've been through versus or and all the hardships that have happened in the world. And, like, they're they're sitting in a college in Des Moines, they want to talk about the hardships that are happening in in the rest of the world like they've been there. And so it's this weird place where you have you have two sections of people. You have the people who are militant about identity,
right, in a weird way where either they are militantly trying to redefine themselves and identify themselves or militantly trying to change your identity of other people. And then there's these people that are so scared by what they think they might be or think they might not be that they don't want to have conversations about it at all. And so it doesn't play itself out in like everyday conversations at the lunch tables, but in in certain classes, things get brought up. Like I was in a marriage and family class, this last semester, we had a whole section on our gendered selves. And we wanted to talk about different types of genders, pansexual, and, or not just genders, like orientations as well, pansexuals, bisexuals,
asexual people, all this different stuff. And it caused this weird heated debate, about, like, what orientation is at birth and how it develops within people. And then that worked into gender, like, what does it look like to define yourself as male or female biologically versus male or female,
emotionally and psychologically and all this sort stuff? And it just it manifested itself in this weird militancy in a few people that really were fired up about it and wanted to talk about it, and the rest were just passive and didn't want to have the conversation. And I think you can take that feel and put it on almost every conversation throughout the college and every thought process of you get the, the people that are super militant about identification and everyone else's identification. And you get the people that are just like, I I don't know the subject, I don't want to talk about it. And it's just it's this weird pool and mix. Alright. Alright.
Good. Way to go, Mike. Well, you know, I and Boob is right. Like, it's not like this comes up all the time, you know, and like I don't know. I I just feel like after
after hearing the way that that that people talk about, you know, where they came from and whatever, you're right. It's a very individual thing. Right? I just but basically, it would it would help me out a ton if they'd stop putting people in groups. Because I won't look at them that way if you don't, you know. I'm like, my mind has to has to go on the easiest thing that could operate. I got got a million things going on in my life. And if you're like, I'm in this group. I'm like, good. Because I can remember you and all those people just by remembering the group. You know? But like on the other hand, I'd really I'd just rather know you as a person. I don't really care. You know, all this other crap about you, you know, that you're like hate to say, hey, I'm defined by I mean, I define myself by the people I hang out with and and and my savior. Right? But you're right. I'm I'm I'm trying to give up in that in identity and and point towards a different one that we're all agreeing
