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Live From The Path · Season 2019, Episode 2

Here’s My Card

Recorded · 1:19:18 · 17,224 words transcribed

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Topics covered

  • Old Testament reading — The hosts' current reading through Leviticus and how its commands land on modern readers. ≈ 0:02
  • Bible translation — Bible translation as an art — Robert Alter's new Hebrew Bible, nefesh vs 'soul,' Hebrew poetry, and how theology shapes renderings. ≈ 2:51
  • Hebrew language — Hebrew language quirks — no written vowels, Jesus' name Yehoshua, and God's personal name Yahweh. ≈ 5:56
  • Bible study tools — Tools for digging into the biblical languages, chiefly the Blue Letter Bible app and Strong's concordance. ≈ 24:06
  • Show formats and listener interaction — The complaint line, listener challenges, and other recurring interactive bits. ≈ 8:41
  • Notes and memory — What the hosts jot down and later regret — Evernote funeral anecdotes, phone notes, and embarrassing D&D poetry. ≈ 9:33
  • Rest and time — Vacation stories and a reflection that unhurried time, not experiences, is what brings peace. ≈ 16:29
  • Old Testament prayer — Famous prayers of the Old Testament, tested through a 16-question Bible trivia quiz. ≈ 42:09
  • Marriage — Marriage advice via Dear LFTP: a husband who never takes his wife out, and the balance between care and unrealistic expectations. ≈ 1:02:56
  • Disability etiquette — How to respectfully get a blind stranger's attention, per the hosts and the National Federation of the Blind. ≈ 1:12:49

Segments

  • Show opening and underprepared banter 0:02–1:12
    The produced intro plays, then the hosts open the show joking that they did not prepare well. One host (named Mike in the audio) is teed up for Dear LFTP advice about a husband described as a party pooper and a second question about approaching a blind man in public, and the show's Leviticus reading is previewed.
  • Leviticus: 'I am the LORD your God' riff 1:13–2:49
    A host riffs on Leviticus chapters 19-20: after each command about not mistreating neighbors, withholding wages, or putting a stumbling block before the blind, God signs off 'I am the LORD your God' like a placard — which the hosts joke reads as 'Love, Yahweh' at the end of every decree.
  • New Hebrew Bible translation teased; Song of Songs 1:13 2:51–5:56
    The hosts preview a New York Times piece about a new Hebrew Bible translation rivaling the King James, then dig into its example from the Jewish Publication Society rendering of Song of Songs 1:13 ('a bag of myrrh lodged between my breasts'), laughing that 'lodged' sounds accidental and unpoetic compared to the intended image.
  • Hebrew vowels, teenage texting, and Koine Greek jokes 5:56–8:40
    Banter about Hebrew having no written vowels: one host compares it to teenagers texting without vowels, and the crew jokes that cuneiform were ancient emojis, that Greek is a dead language nobody can agree on pronouncing, and that 'Koine Greek' sounds like the grain quinoa.
  • Complaint line promo and 'exasperate your Nefesh' 8:41–9:33
    The hosts give the complaint line number, (515) 517-0085, inviting listeners to 'exasperate your Nefesh' on it, and tease a co-host (addressed as Bubba in the audio) about an unprepared 'Pope style' bit sitting at 'Bishop level' that may need another week.
  • Florida beach cheesy-Jesus metaphors and Evernote funeral notes 9:33–11:55
    A host confesses to spending a Florida beach vacation inventing cheesy Jesus metaphors — a footprint filling with sand as a picture of sin and Christ's love, waves gently kissing his feet — then admits he keeps an Evernote file of anecdotes earmarked for specific people's funerals, which implies he plans to outlive everyone.
  • Dungeons and Dragons dragon poetry read aloud 11:57–14:42
    A host reads embarrassing self-written Dungeons and Dragons bard poetry ('I bring you a tale that is older than time…') from his phone notes, written on the fly during game sessions about a year earlier, and the others roast him for it while he also shares a failed 50-states-from-memory list.
  • Embarrassing-notes complaint-line challenge with signed picture prize 14:43–16:28
    A host challenges listeners to call the complaint line with the most embarrassing thing in their phone notes, promising the winner a signed picture of a co-host (named Buva in the audio), with the hosts wagering the winner will be related to or know him personally.
  • Florida vacation stories and a lament about time 16:29–18:42
    The hosts compare Florida trips — one to a wedding in Fort Myers, one to a retirement community with an Airbnb whole-house stereo used for morning Bible reading in Leviticus — and a host reflects that what he misses most in life is not experiences but unhurried time to do things well.
  • Robert Alter's new Hebrew Bible: 'soul' out, nefesh in 18:46–24:04
    The hosts walk through the New York Times article on Robert Alter's complete Hebrew Bible translation (two and a half decades of work): he drops the word 'soul' because the Hebrew nefesh means breath, throat, neck, appetite, or life — not an immortal incorporeal self — so Jonah 2:6 reads 'the waters had reached my neck,' which pairs poetically with 'my head covered with seaweed,' unlike 'soul and head.'
  • Translation as art: NIV committee, eagle vs vulture, Blue Letter Bible 24:06–34:22
    A long discussion of Bible translation as art rather than mechanics: a host's Cincinnati Bible College professor sat on the NIV committee where dozens of scholars could debate a single word; the hosts note modern translations render Matthew's birds as 'vulture' for end-times reasons while the KJV says 'eagle' though the word means eagle everywhere else. They recommend the free Blue Letter Bible app and its aged Strong's pronunciation reader, and a host confesses to preaching an entire sermon saying 'Ashura' poles after mishearing the app.
  • 'It is well with my neck': nefesh comedy riff 34:22–37:34
    The hosts spin the nefesh discussion into comedy: if 'soul' can mean neck or appetite, then the hymn becomes 'it is well with my neck,' and Jonah sounds like a coworker saying 'this paperwork's up to my soul.' They close the thread noting Christians may read Jesus into Old Testament texts where the author only meant Yahweh's name — 'maybe Yahweh goes, no, it wasn't there yet.'
  • Jesus' Hebrew name Yehoshua and the personal name Yahweh 37:36–42:05
    The hosts discuss that Jesus' Hebrew long-form name is Yehoshua and that names don't change across languages the way translations imply; one notes kids loved learning there is no 'J' sound in Hebrew and now call the book 'Yob.' They observe that rendering God's personal name Yahweh as 'the LORD' makes it feel generic, while Jonah uses Yahweh exclusively and names only two characters — Yahweh and Jonah — making the story more personal.
  • Bible trivia quiz: famous prayers of the Old Testament 42:09–59:53
    The hosts take a 16-question online quiz on famous Old Testament prayers, debating each answer: Joshua vs Moses at the Amorites, Abram childless, Gideon and the altar of Baal, Samson, David numbering the people, Solomon's wisdom, Daniel vs Nebuchadnezzar on sackcloth and ashes (they get it wrong), Elijah's fire, Hezekiah and Isaiah, Nehemiah the cupbearer (with a hair-pulling digression), Isaiah's potter, David's Psalm 139 and Jeremiah's 'correct me,' Joel vs Amos at the porch and altar, Jonah in the sea, and Habakkuk's 'how long.'
  • Quiz results, hair-plucking verses, and a 2014 memory 59:53–1:02:56
    The hosts score 10 of 16 (63%, below the site's 69% average), mock the quiz site for not updating since 2008, list the four 'hair plucking' verses (Nehemiah pulling others' hair, Ezra pulling his own, Isaiah 50, Mark 14), debate Absalom caught in the tree, and recall a 2014 'signs of the apocalypse' bit.
  • Dear LFTP: husband who never takes his wife out, plus the Secular answer 1:02:56–1:12:49
    A listener married seven years writes that she and her husband have not gone out together since last summer while he eats lunch out with buddies; the hosts agree he is being a schmuck and should take his lady out, but add nuance — don't idealize other marriages, and going without him to things he dislikes is fine. The 'Secular' answer (world-wisdom) is read: he is selfish and self-centered, and she should enjoy dinners with friends or get a job if needed.
  • Dear LFTP: getting a blind stranger's attention, plus a cane story 1:12:49–1:18:40
    A listener asks how to get a blind stranger's attention after tapping his shoulder startled him; the hosts debate firm-bicep grab vs repeated 'excuse me, sir' from in front, then read the National Federation of the Blind guidance: repeat 'excuse me, sir' and identify yourself from a short distance, preferably directly in front. A host closes with a story of watching two blind women sword-fight and kick away each other's canes at a stoplight, laughing until they flipped him off.
  • Sign-off 1:18:41–1:19:02
    A host closes the show, inviting complaint-line calls about how much of a schmuck he is and challenges to beat his Dungeons and Dragons poetry, then gives the standard sign-off: 'be faithful in the means, God will handle the ends.'

Bible references

  • Leviticus 19:14

    don't put a stumbling block in the way of the blind man

  • Song of Songs 1:13

    My beloved to me is a bag of myrrh lodged between my breasts

  • Jonah 2:6

    the waters compassed me about even to the soul

  • Psalm 69:1

    for the waters are come in unto my soul

  • Matthew 24:28

    where the corpses are, there the vultures (or eagles) gather

  • Joshua 7:6-9

    Ah, sovereign lord, why did you ever bring this people across the Jordan to deliver us into the hands of the Amorites?

  • Genesis 15:2

    Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

  • Judges 6:25-27

    throw down his father's altar of Baal and cut down his father's grove

  • Judges 16:28

    I pray thee only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes

  • 2 Samuel 24:10

    David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done… take away the iniquity of thy servant

  • 2 Chronicles 1:10

    this man prayed for wisdom and knowledge

  • Daniel 9:3

    set his face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes

  • 1 Kings 18:38

    the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust

  • 2 Kings 19:14-19

    King Hezekiah prayed before the LORD concerning Sennacherib king of Assyria

  • Nehemiah 1:11

    this man prayed so earnestly that it changed his countenance… the king for whom he was the cupbearer

  • Nehemiah 13:25

    So I contended with them and cursed them and struck some of them and pulled out their hair

  • Ezra 9:3

    I tore my garment, my robe, I pulled some of the hair from my head and my beard

  • Isaiah 64:8

    But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand

  • Psalm 139:23-24

    Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts

  • Jeremiah 10:24

    O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing

  • Joel 2:17

    Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar

  • Jonah 1:15

    this man was cast into the sea

  • Habakkuk 1:2

    O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save

  • Isaiah 50:6

    I gave my back to those who strike me, and my cheeks to those who pluck out the beard

  • Mark 14:65

    they spat on him, blindfolded him and beat him with their fists

  • 2 Samuel 18:9-15

    Absalom caught in the tree by his hair; Joab stabbed him

Key questions

  • My husband never takes me out anymore — what do you make of this? (dear-lftp)
  • What is the best way to gain the attention of a stranger who is blind? (dear-lftp)
  • What is Jesus' real name? (host-framed)

People

  • Robert Alter
  • Molly Ringwald

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the Path. And you're listening to live for the Pathway. We're coming from the Pathway studios here in Justice Robert. You're darn right we are. Why isn't anybody as excited as me? You

seem you seem very excited to affirm that we are indeed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're here. We're hey. Here here we go on to the show in order not to waste the introductory time. Poorly. Poorly, we did not prepare very well for the show. Mike has some advice on

Yeah. Here's where we're gonna start. We're gonna start with what I know for sure, what I'm confident in. Some stuff. Mike's got Mike's got advice on Dear Dear Life Life in the Pat. There's a husband that's, seems to be a bit of a party pooper, and here's how to, rightfully approach a blind man in public. Oh, yeah. That's Yeah. I it looks more like a a soapbox piece than it does a question, but, yeah, we'll get it. We'll get into it. Oh, man. There was a there was a now I don't remember what chapter it was. Maybe it's Leviticus chapter, I wanna say 19 or 20. But, like, it's funny because it had been going on about, how to treat other people within the community. And then there's, like, this whole this chapter is basically a chapter of, hey, those things that you think you can mistreat other people, god sees all of it. Because he's like, hey, don't don't don't put a box in the way of the blind man or, like, you can't mistreat your like, if you, you can't withhold wages from people and you can't mistreat your neighbor. They're all things where, like, as a human,

you might be able to get away with it because you were in some sort of stronger position than somebody else. Then And there's, a constant reminder following each of these things that, like, I'm the lord your god, and basically, you're I I saw it. Actually, I saw that thing you did to the blind guy. I almost I almost, text somebody here this week because I I was reading Leviticus, like, almost the same thing. Like, every time every time Yahweh says something, he says, I am the lord your god. Like like, he's almost like he's signing, like, placards. You know what saying? Like, he writes something down. Here's my card. Yeah. Like, like, incidentally, if you're gonna be a priest, you cannot marry someone whoever. Well, you can't leave the sanctuary to go find a woman. Love, Yahweh. And then he'll send it out.

And he says, if you're gonna bring some kind of sacrifice in here, don't bring one in here with one leg longer than the other. Love Yahweh. You know I Like, he always says, I am the lord your god. You know? And and that's that's his statement. And it just feels like he's signing the end of it. Like, just so you know, I wrote this in my own hand. Love Yahweh. Yeah. Shipping it out. Go deal deal with what I've just said. This isn't Moses. This is god. Alright. So anyway, we're do advice on dear life from the path. Hey. There was a guy who released or has been releasing, like, a fresh, Hebrew bible translation.

I'm sure you were gonna say releasing balloons. No. No. No. That didn't make This is even better. That didn't make The New York Times. I'm releasing Hebrew balloons. I'm confident that that the thing you're saying is happening. It just it is not Get it in whole different place.

Anyway, I I thought it was interesting. We'll I'll talk about it just real briefly. But, like, it we'll get into kind of a reminder of some of the nuances of of bible translation and why, like, it's totally okay to be reading multiple translations and and recognizing that, like, even now, these fellows there's fellows, like, who love Jesus, who are still working on it. Like, they're still trying to make sure that they understand,

some of the nuances. And, like, one of the the big changes that you'll notice here is that, like, people were trying to faithfully render the text without the context of not the not the story around it, but the style of which it is written. Like Hebrew poetry specifically is pretty difficult to deal with. Like, there's some translations. They give an example here in Song of Solomon. Hold on. Let me see if I can find it because, where's it? Where's it? Oh, yeah. So the the the the Jewish publication society renders a song a song of songs, sorry, chapter one verse 13. My beloved to me is a bag of myrrh lodged between my breasts. Mhmm. And so Yep. That's so so but but the thing is is that, like, if you think about, if you're writing poetry,

like, the phrase lodged between my breasts just doesn't quite I mean, it doesn't quite give the sense of probably what they're trying to get after. It may be a rightful like, it's not that that word isn't used in that way, but, like, it it certainly isn't the image that the poetry is trying to get at, even if it's a faithful translation of the word. Yeah. Because lodged usually means inadvertently stuck. Like, it's there, and I didn't mean it to be there, and it's it's stuck in there. I talk you talk about it as, like, I ate an apple and there's a skin of it lodged between my teeth. Yeah. I don't think the bag of myrrh that I describe my lover as as being, like, stuck

between the breasts. Yeah. I I watched, The Breakfast Club the other day. It just happened to be on. I haven't seen it for thirty years or whatever. And, I didn't remember this scene, but with, was it Molly Ringwald? Ringwald. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She lodged some lipstick between her breasts and, did her lips. Oh. I've not seen The Breakfast Club. Yeah. I mean, it's it's okay to not see it. I I I I just like everybody talks about how great it is. I I'm sorry to change the subject. I just that's the image I got as long as I'm talking there. About breasts, Dan. Go ahead. It was there was something lodge between

breasts. Yeah. So he he would take take the image right. Something That was not poetic. That's right. Something stuck there, and you're like, it just probably isn't what they're getting at. And so, anyway, that that's what the guy I'll we'll talk about it in a little bit. Hey. You got something lodged. Yeah. I mean oh, yes. That's my lover. Sir sir, I believe that her is stuck. Come out of there. What are you doing there? I told you we're not going to do this. I I had a chance to study Hebrew, and I had no desire.

I I mean, you gotta make up all the vowels yourself. They have no vowels. You know, it's just all one big long line. It's just like, no. Yeah. Actually, I was just I I was just thinking about this earlier this week when I was talking to my dad. And he was talking about how we were talking about how how technology is affecting kids or whatever. Oh, yeah. And and and I was I was telling him, like, it's especially when you're running, like, youth group, it's hard because kids don't take in things. They don't poetry, definitely not. Uh-huh. But even paragraphs, even full sentences. Right? Like, they they they text in in short bits. They get even Twitter and Facebook posts are just quick bam ideas. You know? There's no depth to anything. Even say the word. They gotta use a symbol. Yeah. Exactly. And so, like and and and and and look at a text message from from most teenagers I know anymore. Like, they're they're all b r b or or, you know, t there's no there's no vowels in there anywhere. And I thought, we're we're getting back to to Hebrew. Right? Like, we're basically shoving a bunch of consonants together with no punctuation. We didn't know they were texting. It is the text. Cats. Yep. The Hebrew is the long form text. We just Like Dan was saying with Noah. Yes.

Yeah. It was the future. Noah's days are the future pants. Yeah. It's it's it's It's pelican. You just It's coming from the circle. Uniform that it was actually the most basic form of texting. And those are actually just old and, like, Mesopotamian emojis. It's the truth, really. Because, like, you know Adam, he was he was writing out full sentences, capitalization, the whole works. And about a thousand years later, the rest of Israel goes, this is dumb. Let's get rid of these constants. They're taking up all kinds of room. We're just gonna stop punctuating and just zip it on through much like our teenagers are doing. Well, you're chiseling in the rock, it does take extra time. Exactly. You know how much just to do another o, like, you know, who wrote the word book in here? I don't wanna put these two o's in here. They'll get it.

Yeah. Just watch out. The the the the new the new teenager thing is Hebrew. It's coming out. That's right. It's coming out. That's why I love it. Like, when I when I studied Greek, I mean, you might have three, like, really super intelligent Greek translator people and they'll say each one will say the same word differently. It's a dead language. We don't know. Right. So they're like, well, this is how you say it. Blah blah blah. I'm like, and then the other guys know you say it this way and and yeah. I'm not impressed with with me. Yeah. I like to be precise. What if the rice alternative is really is

really koinoi or key what's it not quinoa. Yeah. Quinoa. Quinoa. What's the what's the Greek called? What's the street Greek? Koine. Koine. Koine Greek. See, we could have been eating Koine as a side dish our whole life in U. S. Place of Koine, please? Alright. Anyway, that's that's I think that's the only thing I had on the No. Really If you like to text Hebrew, get ahold of the complaint line Oh, man. Yeah. (515) 517-0085. Thank (515) 517-0085.

It's time to exasperate your Nefesh on the complaint line, and we'd love to hear from you. But I but, Bubba, you were you were contemplating Pope style? Oh, man. Yeah. I just I don't wanna prematurely drop it. It's kind of at Bishop level now. I mean, now here's the deal, Bubba. You're you're never really that good, though. So You're a rambler. And so if I mean, if you don't have this thing landed down, maybe you put the anchor on and hit it up next week. I was gonna say, yeah. If I don't have this thing hammered down, it's gonna take us forty minutes to do. Oh, good. Okay. Good. My New Year's resolution was to tell you the truth. I appreciate that. More people need to do that. No. See, I've been told the opposite. No, Mike. Actually, it's been it it took me a long time to get to this point, but I appreciate when you tell me the truth. Yes. Okay. Here's the earphones. Thanks for that open door.

Mike's like, New Year's resolution is gone. Let me get off my scroll. I wrote Hebrew. Let's hear it, Mike. What do you got? I I I wanna hear some truth from you real quick. Actually, I I was I was just about to admit that that I had gone on, to Florida here this last week or whatever, with my wife for for some for our vacation or whatever. And, like, I could not have you could not have found me making more cheesy Jesus comparisons while I was on the beach. I I mean, it was it was super weird. Like, I was I was standing, like, right by the right by the water. And, like, if you stand just on the on the beach and and just as the water goes up and put your foot down, your foot will slowly start to sink, you know? And then when you pull your foot out, I sat there and watched it. And it didn't take but one wave to come back up, all the sand would fill in the hole, and the hole was never there. And I thought, this is a fantastic metaphor for sin and the love of Jesus Christ. And I thought, yes, I'm gonna remember this because this is genius of me. And then and then and then I started looking at the Gulf Of Mexico and I'm like, man, what a powerful

what a look at these waves. They're so powerful. They could take me down, but they don't. They just come up and kiss the and gently kiss my feet. That's like the love of Jesus. And I had Did you write any worship songs while you were sitting there? No. It was the cheesiest, like, hippie worship band thing I've ever done. I'm just sitting there thinking about how this beach reminds me of the greatness of Jesus Christ, and no one is around to listen to me talk about it. So I thought, I gotta wait for the radio show. But then once I admit that I sat around drinking the hippie juice over by the to Florida, then my persona of yelling at people and being brutally honest will be gone completely, and so I shouldn't bring it up at all. I was too late. He was a the cat's out of the bag. Shucks. At least the wave will watch over my singing to hear the worship songs that come from that revelation there. Keeping, so things like that occurred to me, and I started keeping them in my Evernote. And, like, I was looking through my Evernote collection the other day, and, like, I've got notes about, like, hey. You should mention this at this guy's funeral. I'm like, this is really premature. But at some point, somebody said something, and I thought, hey. That'd be a good anecdote for their funeral, which I think implies that I'm gonna outlive everybody. I'm gonna have to leave my bequeath my notes to somebody. Gonna say, if not, we're gonna have to find your notes then pass them on to a writer or something like that. If I should die early, here's some sweet things that all

of these funerals. You know, I I I every time I go I have lists like that too, and I and I will go back about at the time, I think this is genius. Uh-huh. This is this is outstanding, you know. And you go back and read it, you go, oh, what? What? I mean, what? I have literally thought that about every episode of the show. I thought that was solid gold, and then I will go listen to it a week later and go, oh, man. You know, my my notes aren't exactly great. Like, I I have things like I don't even know what half these are. One of them says book for Timmy.

And I'm I'm I'm not certain I know who Timmy is. Everyone. But I then I have one that says magnum D2183O2018991466. I don't know what that is, but I kinda wish I would have put another note alongside it that says, hey. By the way, this is what this is. Uh-huh. Builder. And then I'm a nerd, and I have poetry that I wrote for dungeons and dragons. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah, gentlemen. I am I am that big of a nerd, and I'm proud of it. Let me have a few lines. Yeah. No, Al. Absolutely not. No. Come

on. Let me just just two lines. I got I got my honesty going ready. Go ahead. Alright. Oh, man. I can't believe I'm subjecting myself to this. Okay. So, I bring you a tale that is older than time and of the dragon's battle fought. This tale needs no reason to rhyme, but to make pretty, I suppose I ought. The yeah.

Right? Like, this is lame. Okay. So the dragons flew with grace and might and bellowed with a hearty roar. They ruled all the day and night. Oh, how the dragons did soar. Yes. I am fully aware that I'm a nerd and that sucks. This makes me so happy. I wanna keep reading so you guys can have a great time. You know? No. Hold on a minute. How recently did you write that? That was probably a year ago. Oh, man. I was really hoping you were gonna say, like, twelve years ago. No. This is terrible. So, no. I'm not gonna get into Dungeons and Dragons on the show. I apologize. But, like, this is what I have. I played I played it a bard and, like, part of my guy's character was, like, I wrote songs and they were all lame and so I had to write stuff. How did they make it to your Evernote though?

What do mean by like, this is just my notes on my phone. Right. So, like, you were oh oh, so you wrote these at the time? Yeah. I wrote these like I was sitting there and I knew what was about to happen, I had to write something really quick Oh. And then use it. Okay. So, like, I didn't, like, sit down one day and go, I'm gonna write a book of dragon poetry. Actually, that's how I perfectly envision it. You thought, like, I just I you know, though, it was windy out one day, and I thought to myself, oh, on stormy days, I love writing. Yep. So I I put on a candle, and I opened my window, and this is just a park bench. And then then reminisce reminisce in your time. That would be so much better. No. I like when I'm sitting there playing with my friends and I have to come up with something, I'd I would pull out my notepad and and write it real quick while we were on a break. And then ten minutes later, I'd have to read it because that was my character's deal. I had to, like, make songs on the like I'm wasting my life because I spend my free time thinking, am I a good father? Or how can I do a better job at my work? I never once said a year ago I was making good life decisions. Build a garage. I I also have I also have a list of all the 50 states that I tried to write down in less than six minutes from from, memory because they did it on the on the show friends that I was watching with my fiance. Okay. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Over this next week, it's, you're gonna call the complaint line. Yes. You will. (515) 517-0085. And I here's what I'd like to hear. I'd like to hear the most embarrassing embarrassing thing in your notes,

in your in your whether it's an Evernote or notes on your phone and stuff. I'll I'll I'll participate. I'll go through mine, and I'll find the most embarrassing thing, within my Evernote collection, and I will call the Complaint Land, and I will leave it. What happens if you can beat dungeons and dragons dragon poetry? You get a signed picture of Buva. Deal. Yeah. I will we will get a picture of Buva. I'll print it out. I will have him sign it, and I will ship it to you. Deal. So that's the complaint line. I will pay for the shipping. I've went seven got $8.05. $10 right now that whoever has the more embarrassing thing than Buva is either related to Buva or knows him personally. That's my wager. Interesting.

Okay. Okay. This is What's that in segment? Well, I'll share it on my Facebook. We'll see what happens. Okay. Because I write because I write my I I don't keep notes on my phone. I write them on my hand, and then they go away. Once my win is done ineffective. The slate cleaners. Wash your hands constantly. You work on things. I don't keep I don't keep notes around for, like, a lot I I don't keep anything for posterity at all. Zero things. I write stuff on rain I have my wedding colors just so I don't forget them. Yeah. Are they the colors of the Dungeons and Dragons? No. Red and black. Dusty rose and fern green. Yeah. My fiance made sure I wrote them down the day that she decided them because she was like, these are our wedding colors. I'm like, great. I'm gonna never remember them. I'm glad you Right. Super excited to be one of the guys standing up there.

Okay. 5155170085. I want the I want the most embarrassing thing in your in your note backlog. You're gonna clean them out, except for Mike, apparently, who doesn't keep notes. I wash my hands and then my note is gone. My hands are clean of this. Yeah. Okay. I wanna say that I'm I'm impressed. Mike was in Florida a couple weeks ago walking along the beach thinking of God. I as well was in Florida a couple weeks ago for a wedding. Yeah. And and all I can remember was inappropriately dressed people.

Don't know. Dan, I I appreciate that honesty in 2019. I mean, I I yeah. I I was just like, I don't know how those things are staying in because well, wait. They're not. They're lodged in there, though. We know you're in public. Right? Those are lodged like a bag of myrrh. Actually, I was lucky enough to be vacationing in what is majority of a retirement community. Yeah, buddy. Mike made a good solid choice for where he was going. And so everything was fine. Plus it was only like Dan went to Daytona Beach or something.

Fort Fort Myers Beach. It's all it's all beaches to me. Yeah. I we stayed at a at a Airbnb or whatever, and they had a whole house stereo system, like, where you Bluetooth your phone. Oh, fun. And then and then in every room is, like, a thing you could turn on and there's speakers in every room. It was the coolest thing. Things I should never have. I totally I I I couldn't have enjoyed my my morning bible study any better. Like, I I fired up the Red Collective station, and then I and I read Leviticus. This is what I did. Walked around. I had nowhere to be. And so I sat there, and I could read it, and I could write down some stuff, and and and I could do my On your hand? Yeah. I wrote it on my hand. I was gonna say, yeah. You wrote your Leviticus 21? Yeah. It looked like do not do not marry

a woman outside of priesthood. Love Yahweh. And I keep looking at my hand going, noted. Yeah. It was it was it was actually really cool. And the thing that I realized the most that that I liked the most about it is we we didn't fly out. I didn't do anything. Right? Like, was just a vacation for my wife. Amazing. We didn't plan nothing. And so it it was it was awesome. The thing that I that I lament most about my current life is time. It's always time. It's not an experience that I'm missing out on or going hiking or bungee jumping or whatever. Like, the thing that brings me peace and calm and and and low stress and and low anxiety is just time to do the things I wanna do and do them right. And so I I I was it was a weird thing to take away from from a vacation, but that's that's definitely what I got from it. Yeah.

So anyway, Ben, this guy's this guy's doing Hebrew, the Hebrew Bible? Yeah. Yeah. The new Hebrew Bible? Alright. Alright. Hold on. I'm gonna get get back to what I was doing. Got distracted. Yeah. So there's a so there's a guy who says after more than two decades of work, a new Hebrew Hebrew Bible to rival the king James. Just a quick what's this aside? Is that the picture of the guy right there? Yeah. That's him. He looks like a woman. I mean, he has Rude? He has piercing I don't know why I looked up at our monitor, and it's up to four of us. So I was wondering which one of us looks like a woman. Okay. No. Hold on. I I I could do you want me to find the picture? Wait. But it's a Hebrew bible. I saw it's like it's not Hebrew. It's wait. What is it? Well, it's not a coffee shop, Dan. What are you asking? Wait. I don't mean that yet. Yeah. You just said my word is coffee, but the Hebrews shit. Woah. Woah.

Woah. Woah. Woah. Language. Yeah. What are you asking, Dan? Like, don't get translation, obviously. It's So it well, I I kinda guess what you're I guess what it is. It's not it's not a Hebrew. Well, if it's originally in Hebrew No. Yeah. It's a translation of the original of of the Hebrew. Into what? Into into English. Okay. But what does that do with King James?

So I I think he's the the compare Yeah. The comparison is oh, okay. Hold on. Where's this guy? Headed in the KJV. What? This one doesn't have the picture of him. What the heck? Yeah. That was Well, it doesn't render it right. That's too bad. Man, I put effort into it. Maximum effort. Anyway, so the comparison is because the people lament the king what's missing from modern translations where the what the King James tends to get there's a lot of the things that the King James doesn't get right. But their use of language oftentimes is closer, especially when it comes to, like, the non

like, to some of the narrative forms or the poetry forms. Like, they've taken more care in trying to craft language that fits the form of the of the communication thing. And so I think that's what they're kind of getting at. And so okay. Well, here we go. Okay. Hold on. I got it. Got I got a picture of him. Yeah. You see that. It's coming. I gotta see this. It's coming. It's it's Roberta. The lady. Oh. See? It could go either way. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh. That's definitely a little weird. Okay. He brewed. I'm sorry.

It's Robert Alter. Bob. His name is Bob. Pat. No. That's weird. Yeah. Jessica. Okay.

Moving on. He seems to be a top end by by scholar. Anyway I was gonna say, yeah, what did she say? Anyway, he he spent some time, complete translation and commentary of the Hebrew Bible from Genesis to Chronicles. Says there's more than 3,000 pages

published this month. It represents a culmination of nearly two and a half decades of work. So here's an example, Mike. And, like, so you recognize this. He said, Al Alter told me about his decision to reject one of the oldest traditions in English translation and remove the word soul from the text. That word, which translates the Hebrew word, Nefesh, has been a favorite in English language bible since the sixteen eleven King James version. But consider the book of Jonah two six in which Jonah caught in the depths of a giant fish's gut, thinks about the terror of near death by water. According to the King James version, Jonah says that the Mediterranean waters compassed me about even to the soul or to Nefesh.

But the problem with this soul for altar is its Christians con Christian connotations of an incorporeal and immortal being, the dualism of the soul apart from the body. Nefesh, to the contrary, suggests the material mortal parts, the things that make us alive on this earth, the body. Well, Alter said, speaking in an unrushed amused tone of a veteran footnoter, that Hebrew word nefesh can mean many things. It can mean breath or life breath. It can mean throat or neck or gullet. Sometimes it can suggest blood. It can mean person or even a dead person corpse. Or it can be appetite or something more general, life or even the essential self, but it's not quite soul.

So I asked, doesn't soul help dramatize the scene's intense emotion? I mentioned another instance of the word nefesh, the terrifyingly evocative line from King James translation of Psalm 69, for the waters are come in unto my soul. Oh, yes, Alter said with a smile. That one does have a certain emotional resonance to it, but it's not what the poet had in mind. And I would add that the line for the waters have come up to my neck is also rather dramatic. The guy says rather, later I looked up the Jonah verse and saw that Alter's translation was true to the poem's formal structure. The verse starts with Jonah's declaring that the water had reached his nephesh, his neck, as altar had it, and ends with his exclaiming that his head had been covered with seaweed. Biblical poetry is often made up of line pairings composed of analogous images, and altar had chosen an anatomical now neck that logically matched head in the parallel clause.

You don't need to know Hebrew etymology to see that soul doesn't fit the analogy. The poetic structure dictates its own logic. So it anyway, that was an interesting example. And I thought what it what it pointed to was was that there is it is certainly an art. There's an art to the translation where, we can read soul and we recognize the the drama behind it. It's probably true that if you're looking at poetry specifically, in fact, he Hebrew poetry and even biblical poem in general,

it tends to be written real specifically and, like, there we're more casual about it. Like, we'll just throw lines on a page, Dungeon and Dragon style, and say, look, I wrote a poem. You know, that hurt. I'm gonna write I'm gonna read more of that poetry. I'm gonna I was kidding. Gonna keep his cease delicious in this show. I'm gonna have more jokes about it. Do not torture my niffish. But, but but but it's right. So, like, in that specific example and here's what the heck do I know? I don't know Hebrew. So let's just we'll start there. But, like, in general, does it make sense that the pairings are probably neck and

neck and head as opposed to soul and head in that instance? Yeah. That probably does make sense. And so I what he was after, the reason he's he's done this is, is to try to capture some of the to try to be, at least from his perspective, true to, some of the communication styles of Hebrew poetry, which don't always lend themselves to direct, like, not it's not word for word. Even when we talk about word for word translations, like, there's still an art to that because you're trying to take there's a context that is not only like, how does this author speak? And then what is the context of the story that they're in? What is the direct context which is being used? And then what is the communication style of which it's being used in? There's a difference between, say, poetry and the 10 words. Right? Like if he's provided there's 10 commandments. And so, anyway, I I I thought it was just kinda interesting and it made me, it was weird when I started down down

and Dan, you you would recognize this. Like so I didn't have any formal education in in in bible languages. And so at the point of which I started learning about some of the things things that were around translation,

it scared me a little bit. It made me think that, like, I'm going to not trust this anymore because I don't think, well, there's humans in this translation process. Right. And the truth was it actually did quite the opposite, because it it it it it centered around, like, here's the true here's the language. Here's the true thing, the thing that we know, and frankly, it's well retained. The the New Testament is well retained. Even they even the the Old Testament is well retained. And then you have people struggling to understand the translation of those things

that sometimes shifts maybe how we've used some of the language before and frankly is improves upon. It helps us to know more holistically and, like, I think we should I I love that. I love the thought that that we continue to have the ability and we're continuing to work towards understanding god's word. And it's not it's not crazy to think that that pursuit will con will continue. We'll get better and better at it. And I I thought it would would hinder me, and, I I came to trust it more because then I know, hey. Why are there so many translations? Oh, I get it. There's there's they're trying to figure out nephesh that could have 10 different things in it. What what makes sense here? And some some people who love Jesus are trying to give it a shot. You know, it's really fascinating when I was in Cincinnati Bible College. One of my professors there was on the committee that wrote the NIV. And every once in while, he would throw out these stories of, you know, there's can't remember, whatever it 77 people. I can't remember, there's a bunch of people. Yeah. And they would sit there and discuss one word, you know, and it might go on however long talking about what word they're gonna Yep. And

depending on your theological background, that would determine what word you wanted because, like you said, it could be tech, it could be ethic, it you know, whatever. Yep. And that that became in some interesting conversations that I wish I could be a fly on the wall for those to to see like, how did they ultimately decide that word, you know, was there some politics involved or Yep. You know, that type of thing. Is Bill really mad because he wasn't buying it ever and he's like Exactly. I'm not voting for this. They're Calvinists. That's why they went this direction, you know, and and it it was just fascinating. But but it but it did also, because there was that large group, gave me more of a comfort of saying, okay. I mean, it isn't just one dude saying, yeah, this is what I think, you know, because it well. Except for this guy. No. Except for this guy. This dude. We know. Shut it down. This our our friend Pat. But Robert.

Anyway, there there is a lot that goes into a translation. Yeah. Well, he spent twenty five years. He's only got a few books now. That's right. He's just like Man, that's it. He's haggling over it. He's and actually, I no. So now I kinda wanted to read his English translation of, like, for example, something that seems pretty dry like like Leviticus, part of Leviticus, end of Exodus numbers. Just to see, like, where you landed on I've been in numbers. Yeah.

Probably. We got it. No. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Well it so so, like, we were doing, a few years ago back back, we were doing a study on Revelation and when it took us back to Matthew and like Jesus' description in Matthew 25, I think, 24, 25 about where the

corpses are, they're the vultures or eagles gather. And, like, it was interesting to look at some of the translations. The most of your modern translations are translating that as, as vulture. The King James and the New King James actually both render that as eagle and that's actually an example of a word that everywhere else that is used both in the Bible and in antiquity, it translates as eagle. But for theological reasons, most likely, that's why we're seeing vulture in in most of your modern translations

because of their view of what this means for, say, the end times. And and if you take that as an end times passage, you're most likely to render that as a vulture as opposed to an eagle. There's a lot of times that will come up in translating scripture of their end time view, their kingdom view. That's right. Especially those types of things really starts to point to and so, like so yeah. I mean, yeah, you gotta be you gotta be careful, but, like, what again, one of the things that I that I grew from it is it it made me look. It made me check and say, alright. Does this make sense that, like, nowhere else this is translated as vulture except for in this one place? And even the same translators no. You can translate it in in differently in different places of the bible. Again, context does dictate that. But, like, even outside of the scripture, no one translated that as as vulture. Like, it's always eagle every time and you're like, maybe there maybe there is it it I believe there's a frankly, I think there's an influence on their end times view that caused people to say vulture there when it's it's probably eagle, which changes how we have to think about then that verse relative to say,

eschatology or the things that point into it. So anyway, I I say all that. The the reason I landed on the article is one, I thought it was interesting. But two, I would say, don't be afraid to kind of, wade into the water and feel overwhelmed. Like, it's it's totally understandable. Like I said, I I don't I don't speak any of these. But, like, there's a lot of really cool tools that are available to you. I use the Blue Letter Bible. It's kind of an ugly app to me, honestly. It looks like it's like it's the view the the, design of it's probably eight years past date. But, like, the functionality within the Blue Letter Bible app is really cool. Yeah. The guy that that pronounces the words for you, he's the best. Yeah. I think they paid a 90 year old man to sit in a room and then just read Strong's g one thirty seven. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. It's like, what? Skorvister. Good.

Dude, you're killing me. Skorvister. I got totally I'm not gonna lie to you, gentlemen. I think I just made nerdy reference again. I'm pretty sure that's from Aragon, to be honest with you. I'm pretty sure I just spoke Elvish. It's It is well worth your time and effort because the Blue Letter Bible app is free Yes. It is. To download it and and then and hook up just just start tapping on words, and it'll take you it'll say translate Hebrew or whatever, and let that guy bust it out because he will always go Strong's g,

Kohono. Kohono. Oh, yeah. When he pronounces it twice and it's wonderful. You got burned on it? Oh, not not on that particular version but but like what is it? The church TV guy that Oh oh, the You version? You you you version. Yeah.

I I was preaching through Judges and there was some little verse in there I thought, man, I don't know how to say this guy's name. I know. It was like right before church. I ran back to the office. Wanna I wanna hear what that dude said. Because I knew I was doing the bible in the year and I was kinda reading reading or listening to it And I go to and and it you know, it's about the Asherah poles. Yeah. And it happened to be in the same verse as whatever the guy I was looking at. And he kept calling it Asherah. Oh. I've never heard that in my life. Asherah. Well, this guy's a professional. He knows what he's talking about. So I ran out there and preached a sermon about Ashura. Ashura see, Ashura pulls, blah blah blah. And everyone, like, attacked you? No. No one had a clue what I was talking about. And and and then I was thinking, man, I am so smart. And, like, later on, it's like nowhere else has anyone ever called Ashura. It's always Ashra. I mean, it it is Ashra. I mean, I don't know anybody knows it. But but now it's, like, embarrassing. It's on YouTube. You know? It's Oh, man. It's in there forever. Yeah. Listen. I hope in twenty years, Shira brings up Oh, do you guys remember a Shira pastor? Shira guy. I mean, what? You gotta tune out. Just Shira. Ashira. Ashira. Every every I might do that, actually. I see if I can free up the time. That seems worth it. Yeah. We're gonna mix you saying Ashira into a dubstep. The bible guy that goes, Strong's g. Ashira.

Strong's g g g g g. We need to 100% remix that guy. Actually, it the judges would be in Hebrew and it's a Strong's h. Strong's h? Oh, what's the g for? Wait. Is it Greek? Yeah. Strong's g is Greek. Strong's h is Hebrew. You're the only person in the world who would actually pay attention to that bit. Yeah. Strong's yeah. It's Strong's is the is the the concordance company or the different company. They're like the big the Yeah. I just I've never even paid attention that there was any Strong's. That means every Every word word in the old testament, he's gone through and the new testament. The same guy. It's the same one. Oh, yeah. That's why he's so old. You can listen to it when he was 20. It was like Strong's g, and now it's Strong's

g one thirty seven. Big swing at it on a couple of them because no one else is gonna know. You know? Like gonna listen to this right before going up. The word toe comes up, and he's like, Strong's h. Low toe. Low toe. Man.

Yeah. That Blue Letter Bible app, that's the that's the I I frankly, I use it all the time. Like, when I'm if I'm I'm studying and I'm just doing, like, a cursory review of the passage, a lot of times there's words where, like, I think I know. Like, we have this idea of what this word means to us and, like, I better check it. And so I check it and, like, you know, it it doesn't mean that the the translation you have is wrong but, like, it gives you some context that there might be some nuance to the word. Yeah. It was actually when I took, when I took your class, Ben, on Revelation was when I actually started when I downloaded that Bluebird Bible app, and I find myself I'll use it 15 times a week. Yeah. Ridiculous. And so I actually have some my youth group kids doing it now too, and they're just like, well, because they they were all like, oh, you know all these words. I'm like, no. There's an app for it. Now we look it up. Yep. Wait. What? I'm like, no. I didn't memorize Greek, and I don't know Hebrew, guys. Come on. Like, I appreciate that, but no. It's an app. And they all freaked out. They're like, wait. There's an app for that? I'm like, yes. There is. Download an app. Well, I'll have smartphones in 90% of the time you're on. So just grab it. I feel convicted here because I will purposely not look it up in my blue letter bible because I don't wanna know any better. Like because once I look it up, then I'm bound to be more confused. And so I think, here's what I think it is. Okay. Let's move on. Well, sometimes you can dig into that stuff

and, yeah, it just gets gets kinda, like, depressing or, like, kinda like, well, this word could be tree or fire. Right? Or I think there's, you know, bird or a face fox. That's what I get in common. Yeah. A face fox. That's way scary. Right. Yeah. What the heck is that? Even even that Jonah example. Right? Like, this is my soul or this is the man's neck. Yeah. Like, well, shoot. My appetite. See, but I think What? Are you thirsty, Jonah? Like I could I would I would relate better with with some people in the old testament. Like, especially, of course, I I relate every day in the book of Job. Right? But Job goes on this, like, three chapter spiel

Yeah. On on how he lows his life. I'm like, you know, you could have just summed it up. You know? And so, like, is is is are there parts of the bible where where Jonah could be like, hey. It's up to my neck. Now it's over my head. I would have gone, yeah. That makes sense. But then when he goes, hey. It's up to my soul. I'm like, what? I don't know what that means. Listen. Do mean? Jonah, when you're about souls, like, your kneecap? Why do you guys have to talk like that? I don't understand. Very deep at all, Jonah. Just walk out of there. I mean, can you imagine walking into work and be like, hey, Bill. How's it going? This paperwork's up to my soul. You know what? I'm actually gonna say that tomorrow when I go to my office. You know what, Bill? I ain't talking to you anymore. Someone comes up to me, hey. How how busy are you right now? Oh, man. Up to my soul. Yeah. People will go, you know what, Bill? I ain't dealing with you anymore if you're gonna be this way. No one knows what that means. Bro, you you don't seem like the kind of guy I wanna talk to right now. Just wanna say actually, that sounds like a great idea. I'm gonna use that now. What if gotta get a tear though? I'm gonna be that creepy guy in the office that always, like, makes weird analogies and stuff like that so people leave me This could this could lead us down a dangerous path because it's possible that it is well with my neck. It's it's actually like, the man had a hurt neck, and he says, it is well it is well with my neck. Or he was hungry, and it is well with his appetite. Like, he he had a hurt neck for a while. I'm gonna sing that song next time I have a good meal. It is well with my appetite. Yep. He slept, and then all of a sudden, woke up and his neck felt better, he thought, I owe this glory to the lord. He says, it is well with my neck. My

neck. Can we please sing it that way the next time? Absolutely. We can. Yeah. Yes. We'll have the choir sing it. Alright. Anyway, that's that's the end of that. I just thought it was kind of interesting. Although, you know, the one thing that that I, I suppose in reaction do you notice that they said that they're the concern about the influence of of Christianity

on the translation of the Hebrew text. Like, dirty Christians ruin this too. Right? That's phenomenal. No. I suppose that like, it wouldn't surprise me that that creeps in though. Like, if you know the end of the story, you start translating the other parts of the story differently Yeah. Because you like because you see you see a you see a reference there that may or may not actually Well, we'd like to say we see Jesus in every text in the Old Testament. Right. I mean, it's kinda that might be the, you know Right. And we always say it as a positive too, and maybe Yahweh goes, no. No. It wasn't there yet, guys. Nope. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I signed them all. Love Yahweh.

Yeah. We don't even there's not even a Hebrew word for Jesus. We say we say Yeshua, which is the same name as Joshua, so good luck with that. You wanna know this is this is lame. Right? But, like, kids really love like, when I like like, Jesus' long form name is Yehoshua Yeah. And they just thought that was the coolest. Wait. What? They just thought it was the coolest thing they've ever heard and they're like, Yehoshua.

Hey, man. There's a guy over here that thinks that's the coolest what? I'm gonna get that t shirt. Yehoshua? That was his full name? That that was yeah. Or the long form? The long form. Yeah. Of his Hebrew name, you know, and then it gets translated to Jesus or That's awesome. Yeah. So That's got some more oomph to it. Well, that's the thing. I here's the thing. There's some of those things I I kinda miss because, where the word water or walking or I wave to a guy is different in his language than our language. Like, Raul is still named Raul. It doesn't matter what country he's in. Right. Right? Or what language you're using. And so, like, there's there's there's something cool that I'm like, hey, man. Next time you pray, you know, if you want to, just, you know, you're Yahushua. Right? That's just that's legit name. That's sweet, man. Came out of his mom's mouth and was bestowed to him under God's guidance. Here's Yahweh's guidance. This is the man's name. Yahushua. And I thought, I don't know. That's kind that's kinda cool because the name is the name. It doesn't matter what language it is. The name is always the same. And so, like, it's weird that we translated the name, you know? Like it like like like people wouldn't just let it be. Right. Like like we would say Yahweh and, like, Yahweh is his name. Like, that's the name. There's not we don't say it differently, like, well, it translates as Jonathan. Yeah. Exactly. It right? They don't look me up and be like Miguel Foust because they looked it up in Spain. My name is still Michael. You know? Doesn't matter what country you're in. And so, like, like, it's actual they they they just thought that was the coolest thing ever that they and and and we went through the whole thing of of talking about what the lord's name is and and and whatever. They just they they thought that was awesome. And it's weird because it connects them in a way that that, like, they never saw the things weren't personal to him. Right? When you talk about this god and he refers to him to himself as the lord, most kids these days and and most adults, frankly, just marry lord and god together. Like, it's all just one word and it's just a different variation and and whatever. And, you know, and, like, for some reason, we take you know, we don't wanna say Yahweh.

That's the he said this is my name. Name is Yahweh. Jonah only uses Yahweh as a matter of fact. Like, of all the places where it's used interchangeably or or at least differently throughout the text, like, the book of Jonah, for example, is always dealing with the personal name of Yahweh. As a matter of Jonah only has two named characters. Yahweh and Jonah are the only people with names. Everybody else is, like, is is a function, or an office. And so it so, like, again, it tells you something else about the story to know that, like, I only know individually or personally two characters in the story, and it's not it's not God

and and Jonah. It's Yahweh and Jonah. And so, like, it it it just gives a little different element to to how we're still to understand the narrative because of how that translates as opposed to the lord and Jonah, which feels a little bit more passive than that. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It does. I it's it's super interesting stuff. And it like, it's some of that stuff we can extrapolate out and go, look, you know, these are these are more personal connections. Right? Like, these are this is his name. This is how he's being referred to. He says, I am a god and my name is Yahweh. Okay. That makes more sense than if you say, I am the lord thy god or whatever. That all just sounds like one thing to most people. Lord thy god is just a a thing, you know, where where where Yahweh is saying, look. I'm acknowledging that that there are plenty of gods on offer. I am Yahweh, and I'm the one that took you out of Israel, and I did this, and I did this. All these things that are now saying, look, I'm telling you my name and when you associate, like, your freedom from Egypt and and and and the the offering of of of sin to be gone, it is from me that this is coming from. Yahweh is giving you the land of milk and honey, not just the only god that you consider to be around. There's Canaanite gods. There's all kind of gods that are That's on what you're saying. That are atheistic of them. You know, and like he's he's saying, look, I I realize that there that you believe that there's plenty of gods around. I am a god. My name is Yahweh. I am creator god. I am the you know what I'm saying? And so, like, it just puts it in a perspective where you can grab what's going on in the old testament a little easier, you know? Yeah. I never thought of it like that. I dig that. He says Yehoshua?

Yehoshua. Yeah. Man, that like that Some business to it. I'm like, I know. I'm sorry. I'm I'm I'm fanboying over here. I'm like, oh, man, Jesus. I've been calling you that so wrong the whole time. I apologize. Yehoshua, that's awesome. I think three years ago, I told the kids that that there's no j sound in Hebrew, and they they referred to the book of Yob. I mean, for That is ever since. Like, they still laugh about it. Yob.

They still think it's funny. The Yob. Alright. So here's what we're gonna do. I I found, one of the lowest scoring quizzes. Oh, buddy. And so we're gonna give it a shot. What is Jesus' real name? Yehoshua. The, this is famous prayers in the old testament. Oh, I'm telling you, it's gonna be rough. This is awful. Here we go. How many how many we got here? Oh, 16 questions. Alright. Oh, man. Number one, this man said to god, ah, sovereign lord, why did you ever bring this people across the Jordan to deliver us into the hands of the Amorites to destroy us? And the Lord said to him, stand up. What are you doing down on your face?

Man. Give us the option. Yeah. I was gonna say, what are our options? Abraham? Moses? No. Joshua? Maybe. Caleb. It's one of the last two. I'd say Joshua. What so was this

Amorites. You said Amorites. Right? Yeah. So so it's the movement it's the movement into the promised land. So either it's Moses or Joshua. So either it's the time where, like, just before they got caught and weren't allowed to go in Wasn't Caleb with Joshua though? Yeah. Was it was he one of the guys Yeah. Despised? It could be one of those three. I I bet it's Moses. I bet I think they're throwing us off. No. Stand up. What are you doing down on your face? Because who else is gonna be talking to god like that? Yeah. But they Joshua, when he took over for Moses,

after Moses died. Because there was no threat of the Amorites on the way into the promised land. Isn't that who they got to use their they get to use their land? Hands up in the end. So that's Moses. On the hill. That was that was pre Was there all of rights? Oh, crap. Okay. We're going with Moses then? I was gonna say fine. You've I'd I'd Moses. Alright. Dan's convinced us. Oh, man. It's gonna be all on me. It's on Dan. Number two, who said, lord god, what wilt thou give me seeing I go childless and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? That's Abram. The woman.

Oh. Abram. Simply Abram. Isaac, Jacob, or Joseph? I'm told Yeah. Yeah. Lazar was his servant. He didn't wanna give us, his his stuff over to his servant. Yeah. He was super upset. He had no child.

Three, this man saw an angel of the lord and thought he was going to die. That night, the lord told him to throw down his father's altar of Baal and cut down his father's grove. Gad, Gideon, Geshem, or Goliath?

Not the grove. I love the grove. Where is this in? For Samuel? It's gonna be Gideon. I'm terrible about Yeah. I'm I'm thinking Gideon. I'm terrible about that that part the I'll trust y'all on Gideon because I got nothing. Oh, man. We're words of business. I just know it's not Goliath. This That's where I'm at in that question. It is not Goliath. This man prayed, I pray thee only this once, oh god, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. Samson. Samson. Yeah.

King James threw me off though. Yeah. That that's the problem with these quizzes. He wasn't King James. They're in the lord's Where's Robert at with this one? He's a new Hebrew translator. David said unto the lord, I have sinned greatly in that in that I have done. And now I beseech thee, oh lord, take away the iniquity of thy servant for I have done very foolishly. Wait. Did it say David said at the beginning? Yeah. Yeah. What had he just done? Oh, okay. Slept with Uriah's wife, had Joab kill his son Absalom, killed Nabal's household,

numbered the people? David wait. What? So read the read the read the question again. David said unto the lord, I have sinned greatly and that I have done. And now I beseech thee, o lord, take away the iniquity of thy servant for I have done very foolishly. I say that's Uriah's wife. I'm thinking that No. I don't think so because right after he slept with Uriah's wife, he had Uriah killed. Right? Or did he do that after?

Because he sent the I think it's the numbering the tell Uriah that he had to go to the front lines. Yeah. That was after he found out Bathsheba was confronted him. Oh, yeah. That's true. Okay. I'd I'd go counting. I yeah. I think it's when he numbered the people. That was against, that was against Yahweh's wishes. Do not number people. Love Yahweh. Yeah. Love Yahweh. Don't number people. Yahweh. Don't count them. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's an exodus thing. Like, you're not allowed to you're not allowed to count the army because it's not your army.

Oh. God counts the army. It's his. When you count something, it implies that you own it. Oh, I thought of it like that. Yep. But when you count and say, hey. How many are in my army? The lord goes, mm-mm. Yeah. Yoshua That does not belong to you. Yeah. Oshawa got this one. Wait. Wouldn't you feel coy if, like, the opposing army is like, how many men you got? I don't know. God knows. No. That actually, that'd be my problem. That'd be pretty scary. It's like, how many how many are in your army? Don't know. God knows. We're gonna leave. We're gonna head out of here.

As a matter of fact, like, think of the think of the times where, like, in fact, this happens multiple times. We're like, hey. How many should we take? And then god's like, no. Take less than that. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. You don't you don't need that many. That's too many. That's too many. Yeah. You remember who you got? It's me. No. You don't need that many. This man prayed for wisdom and knowledge, and God replied, wisdom and knowledge will be given you, and I will still give you wealth, riches, and honor such as no king who was before. I was gonna say, I wonder who this might be. Secular. Secular. Secular Zimbabwe.

Yeah. Alright. We're in for Solomon. Seven. This man set his face unto the lord god to seek by prayer and supplications with fasting and sackcloth and ashes after he had read from the prophet Jeremiah and realized that the Babylonian captivity was nearly finished. Who was he? Daniel, Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzar, Abednego.

So Doesn't Leviticus say not to do the sackcloth and ashes? What? No. Isn't isn't that one of the biggest things of, like, I'm mourning, so I'm gonna, like Yeah. Hold on. I'll find it. Not for not for the dead. Are you thinking about for the dead? It's, like, the same with, like, with the tattoos and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. For the dead. Yeah. But that's not what this is. What do you mean?

Fasting. With He was fasting about their their captivity, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. In reaction to the that the Babylonian captivity was nearly finished. And just like in the book of Jonah, like, the Assyrians, do the same thing. They fast in sackcloth and stuff, and the lord's not like, I'm really upset that you've done this. I wanna say Daniel, but I feel like that's the trick answer. Nebuchadnezzar was the Babylonian king. He's not a Bindic. Read from the prophet Jeremiah.

Yeah. That'd be all contemporaries, though. I mean That's a what so it was Daniel then who? Belshazzar. Belshazzar. Nebuchadnezzar and Abednego.

Wasn't Belshazzar Daniel's name? Yeah. His his Babylonian. Yes. His Hebrew name? So is that the trick right there? It's and Abednego

was was one of the other dudes The one of the three that were in the fire. Yeah. Yeah. Think Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego. Like, after the the the time out of being a wild man and maybe? It's Nebuchadnezzar. It's gotta be Nebuchadnezzar. The first two choices are both Daniel. Yeah. He's up right. Because Nebuchadnezzar's upset that it's that his control over the Hebrew people is going to end. That's why he's mourning. Okay. Which is an odd thing to express yourself in a godly mourning over a captivity of which you are Right. You're the one well, god had just humbled him. Right? It was right after he was Oh. The head that Right. Came out of the animal and That's right. Alright. We're gonna go with Nebuchadnezzar. Oh, boy. This eight, this man prayed and then the fire of the lord fell and consumed the burnt sacrifice, the wood and the stones and the dust Elijah. And licked up the water. Moses, Elisha, Elijah, and Joshua. I always mix the two up. It's Elijah that did not, not Elisha. Right? That's right. Okay. Good. And and they're they go in they go in the order of the first letter that changes the name. Elijah first, and then he didn't cross the river, and then Elisha took That's right. So, actually, there's no j in Hebrew. So it's Elijah. Elijah? Really?

You're a liar. I didn't see that coming. Oh. You shouldn't have. You really shouldn't have. Took took a turn for the worst. Makes me smile. Number nine. King Hezekiah prayed before the lord concerning Sennacherib,

king of Assyria, and a prophet sent a message to him to respond to his prayer. Who was the prophet? Obadiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah,

Ezekiel. Yeah. Like, Jeremiah brings that kind of bad news. Yeah. And cries about it. Hezekiah. Yeah. Yeah. So Hezekiah it's all good. It it it could have been well, yeah, they're all kinda around the same time, I guess. I think Jeremiah. I don't know. Let's see. What a. Thanks, Bubba. That was super helpful. Well, no. I'm sorry. I'm I'm trying

okay. Fair enough. Where do the thunder cats go? Snarf. Don't judge me on my snarf impression. 10.

This man prayed so earnestly that it changed his countenance. The king for whom he was the cup bearer noticed and inquired about why he was so sad. Who was this man? Nibron? Nabal? Nadab?

Nehemiah? A crab. It's not it's not Nimrad. It's yeah. Nehemiah? Yeah. Okay. Wasn't Nehemiah the guy that pulled hair? Wasn't he the hair puller? The hair puller? No. He was the cup bearer and then they sent him off and then he That's right. Yeah. Yeah. He was sad because he couldn't go to the temple. Yeah. So they sent him sent him out to Who was the who was the hair puller? Like, got tired of people not, living the right way and so he beat him and kicked him out of the out of the temple and pulled their hair.

Does sound familiar. It's not this, though. I think that's a Muslim story. Maybe that could be him later. We we literally talked about it on the show. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody was super excited about it. We laughed at it. We said this is gonna be our new missionary tactic. We're gonna put the Nehemiah on it. Oh, god. Hold on. Bible, man who pulled hair. Just a second. My cloak. Four bibles four hold on. Four bible verses about hair plucking. Just a minute. Yeah. When I heard about this manner, I tore my garment, my robe, I pulled some of the hair from my head and my beard. No. That's Ezra.

I hear my back. No. No. Somebody Yep. There it is. Nehemiah twelve twenty five. So I contended with them and cursed them and struck some of them and pulled out their hair. Yeah. And made them swear by god, you shall not give your daughters to their sons nor take their daughters for your sons for yourselves. But prior to that, he was a cup bearer. So he was a mild mannered cup bearer. That was a frustrating got upset a bit a little bit and pulled hair. He went straight on crazy John the Woolly Baptist. Started pulling hair. That's rough. 11, who prayed? But now, oh lord, thou art our father. We are the clay and thou art potter, and we are all the work of thy hand. Isaiah,

Jeremiah, king David, king Saul. Nice. Ray Tomlin. You think it's Isaiah? Yeah. The prophet Tomlin. It's about a really play. Okay. The potter's thing is making me think Isaiah. I don't know why, but it is. I I think that's Jeremiah, but you we if we like Isaiah, we'll keep it. If you think it's Jeremiah, I'm okay with being wrong. I'm just saying that was my first thought. Is it You've had such crisis?

What what'd you say? You practice being wrong? That's how you become good. I yeah. I was gonna say I'm okay. With that. Yeah. I'm not about twenty seven years I thought that was a boost. I'm pretty good at being wrong. That's right. Like, I'm okay, but it was like you're trying to be humble. It's a humble brag. I'm okay at being wrong. Really, you're a jerk. Apparently,

so. I was just saying I'm fine being wrong in this. It just for some reason, when I heard Potter, I thought Isaiah. I look mighty fine when I'm wrong. 12, who prayed? Search me, oh god. Know my heart. Try me and know my thoughts and see if there be any wicked way in me and lead me in the way everlasting. David. Yeah. Definitely. Isaiah, Jeremiah, David, Saul? David. Joshua. Who prayed, oh lord, correct me, but with judgment, not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing?

Isaiah, Jeremiah, David, Saul. That sounds like David again, don't it? Was gonna Psalm. Say that again? Oh lord. Oh lord, correct me, but with judgment, not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing. Now Saul with that seems like a Saul, like, in his dreary days. Dreary time Saul. Yeah. We good? The worst Saul. Yeah. We're going with Saul. Alright. Let the priests, the ministers of the lord weep between the porch and the altar and let them say, spare thy people, oh lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach that the heathen should rule over them. Wherefore should they say among the people, where is their god? That sounds like Amos. Amos, Joel, Malachi, or Habakkuk. No. That's Amos bringing the heavy word.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say it's either Amos or Malachi is my guess. Can't tell you either. Let's go with Amos. Let's go about the tithing of Malachi. I don't know. Yeah. All. That's the only verses I read. Don't know anything else. Malachi is the tithing of Malachi. That's so sad. Just me and this. Fill the story You really suck. I haven't really I haven't really paid attention to much more of Malachi other than the heavy of hey, man. This is the deal you gotta

Fifteen, two more. This man was cast into the sea after the people that he was traveling with had prayed that he would not perish for taking his life. Interesting. To his neck? Is that happening? Yona. What's going on? Yona.

In which book did the prophet say prophet pray, oh lord, how long shall I cry and thou wilt not hear? Even cry out thee unto thee even cry out unto thee of violence and thou wilt not save. Amos, Joel, Malachi, Habakkuk. Crap. Back into the minor prophets. Man. We gotta clean it up. They really they ride the pine, those four pillars. I don't know.

How long shall I cry and thou wilt not hear, even cry out unto thee of violence and thou wilt not save? Joel. Joel, Malachi, or Hapkuk. We like Joel? Joel was the first thing to pop my head too, but I've Yeah. Can't Submit, Ben. Okay. We're going in. Oh, man. I see red on the page already. Hello, buddy. This man said to god, ah, sovereign lord, why'd you ever bring this people across the Jordan to deliver us to the hands of the Amorites? We said Moses. That is incorrect. The

answer is Joshua. Dang you, Dan. Dan. I'm good at this. We laid it all down on you for Moses. Deuteronomy, Dan. Deuteronomy, dude. Deuteronomy. I mean, technically, this one's in Joshua. Dan could have stopped at Deuteronomy. Totally close to where Dan should live. Who said, lord god, what wilt thou give me seeing I go childless? We said that's Abram and that is correct. Three, this man saw an angel of the lord and thought he was going to die.

Lord told him to throw down his father's altar of Baal and cut down his father's grove. And we said, Gideon. That is correct. This man prayed, I pray thee only once that I may be once avenged to the Philistines for my two eyes. We said Samson. That's correct. David said to the lord, I've sinned greatly and that I've done and now I beseech thee. Take away the iniquity of this thy servant for I've done very foolishly. We said that he had numbered the people. That is correct. Yeah. Question six, this man prayed for wisdom and knowledge, and, we said that was Solomon. That is correct. Wait. Is it are are we correct that I'm the only one who missed anything so far? Yes. Yeah. That'd be so far. Let that feel That would not continue, though. I'll say that. No. Need help They're being wrong. Buva can help you. I was gonna say I'm fairly certain we're about to run into one that I can claim on. Here we go. This man set his face unto the lord god to seek by prayer and supplication with fasting and sackcloth and ashes after he had read from the prophet Jeremiah and realized that the Babylonian captivity was nearly finished.

We provided much justification for Nebuchadnezzar, and that was incorrect. Oh. The correct answer is Daniel. It was Daniel. I I thought Belshazzar what what was the second option? Yeah. Belshazzar. Isn't that his his second name? Yeah. So how if you put two Daniels on there, how are we supposed to pick one?

I don't they're unfamiliar with that, but that's actually his name. Ugg. This man prayed and then the fire's g. Ugg. Fire of the lord fell and consumed the burnt sacrifice. We said that is Elijah, and that is correct. Noted. King Hezekiah prayed before the lord concerning Senatorub, king of Assyria, and the prophet sent a message to him to respond to his prayer. Who was that prophet? We said it was Jeremiah.

That is incorrect. The correct answer is Isaiah. This man prayed earnest so earnestly that it changed his countenance. He was the cup bearer. We said that was Nehemiah. That is correct. Mhmm. Who prayed but now, o lord, thou art our father. We are the clay and thou art our potter. We are all the work of thy hand. We said Isaiah, and that is correct. Question 12.

Who prayed, search me, oh god, and know my heart? Try me and know my thoughts. We said that was king David. That is correct. Question 13, who prayed, oh lord, correct me, but with judgment, not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing? Again, we came up good good justification of why it was king Saul, and that was incorrect. The incorrect answer is Jeremiah. Yeah. That sounded like it had Dan running at the forefront. Prophet wrote, let the priest, the ministers of the lord weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say spare thy people, oh lord.

Mike was pretty sure it was Amos, and I'm pretty sure that was incorrect. The correct answer is Joel. Shoot. Circle Joel two. Question 15. This man was cast into the sea after the people, that he was traveling with had prayed they would not perish for taking his life. And answer is Jonah, and that was correct. And 16, in which book did the prophet say, oh lord, how long shall I cry and thou wilt not hear? Even cry out to thee of violence and thou wilt not save. We said, certainly, this must be Joel, and that is incorrect.

The correct answer is Habakkuk. Wow. Those minor prophets really swept the floor with us. Yeah. Those are those are bad. Bible races in youth group. Most of the kids don't even know that those exist. Yeah. Cracks me up. I said Habakkuk once, and they went, what? Habakkuk. No. Thank you. I I brought tea. You answered a total of 10 of sixteen's questions correctly for a score of 63%.

This quiz has been taken nearly 6,000 times since December 2000 stick six, and the average score for the quiz is 69%. Oh. We got lower? Oh, man. Have we ever gotten lower then? One other time, I think we got yeah. Feel like we did a quiz on clouds or something and really bombed that one. That was terrible. Clouds was rough and shoot. I well, boats may not boat.

Remember that quiz on boats? Actually, is a quiz on boats. Yeah. See? There's one. Yeah. There there's it's one of the top options. It was boats in the bible. That sounds about right, Ben. Who I mean, what kind of guy is like, you know what? There's some things that confuse me in the lord's word, but I know everything there is to know about the boats. Yeah. Food food in the bible, boats in the bible, chariots in the bible. Jesus gets on the boats. Sometimes Noah's on a boat. Jonah was on a boat. Nailed it. Peter jumped off a boat or stepped out of a boat. Oh, what the heck, man?

I was looking for the newest quizzes, and the most recent quiz was from 2008. I was gonna say, we've been doing this for so long. Why don't we submit a quiz? I mean, like I say, I feel like they're not they're not updating. I mean, this guy's been holding strong for almost more than twenty years. Yeah. That was kind of impressive. Still paying the domain name. Biotriviaquiz.com.

We should I should click on some of his advertisements. Send a little cash his way. Yeah. Why not? Okay. Alright. We got time check for 14¢. We got time for oh, wait. Wait. That was four. There were still checks those quizzes? Hold on. Just to come back to this, there were four verses about hair plucking in the bibles. Yes. Nehemiah, who pulls out somebody else's hair. Mark 14, which is the accusation and say, against Jesus,

they be they spat in a blindfold and beat him with their fists. Isaiah 50, I gave my back I gave my back to those who strike me and my cheeks to those who pluck out the beard. And then Ezra pour out his own beard. Okay. Who's the guy who got caught in the tree riding? Was that Abimel

Absalom. Absalom. I was thinking Abimel With the long hair. His long flowing locks on the tree. Dying and getting stabbed because he got stuck in the tree, didn't he? Well, he got stabbed because Joab stabbed him. Like, his his dad's military man he had gotten stuck in the tree. Right? Yeah. Well but I mean Like, hanging from him. See, hey, man. I see a guy stuck in a tree. Might as well stab him. He would go stab him anyway. Yeah. Was being killed and assassinated. Yeah. Okay. Didn't that conversation originally wasn't it like one of our signs of the apocalypse and some dude had or something or

That's a faint memory. Non biblical signs of the apocalypse? I'm gonna find it. Yeah. I I I oh, you know what? I was it was it was from 2014. What the heck ever? You know what year is it? Well, I I did because I I remember it was 1159. It was 2014 because I was listening to Life From The Path podcast earlier

last week. And it was it was I I've looked at the date, and I'm like, holy cow. We've been doing this a long time. Right. And then and then I've I just happened to listen to the show, and and Nehemiah came up. And Ben was super fired up about Terron Beards and whatever he goes, it's fierce. It's fierce, he says. He's all fierce. Strong's g one thirty nine. Oh, man. Fierce. Fierce. Okay. Ready? Yep. Dear and I from the path,

I have been married for seven years. The last time my husband and I have been out of the house together was last summer. No movies, dinners, festivals, etcetera. I finally gave up suggesting things to do. My husband says I'm the one who feels the need to go out once a week or take an annual vacation. Hurts knowing he goes out to eat with his buddies on his lunch breaks at work. I've said as much, but we still don't go anywhere on the weekends. He still goes out to eat with his friends. What do you make of this? Is it schmuck? Now wait a minute. Just to clarify, when you say he goes out to eat with his friends, you mean he has lunch? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. With his buddies on his lunch breaks. Yeah. That's not I I understand the discrepancy because, like, this occurs in my house, actually. My wife stays home with the children and teaches them and stuff and, like, my life takes me outside of the house. I end up eating out more than she does. And, like, or even, like, if I go on a biz like, a work trip to, like, Minneapolis or wherever, like, they pay for my food. I eat out all the time. And so, like, it it it does feel like an imbalance because I'm getting experiences that, frankly, I'd prefer to have with my wife that we don't. But it is a little bit different than like, hey, my husband we were supposed to go out to eat together and instead he went out with Chuck. Like, that's that's not quite what we're talking about. No. Right. He is still a schmuck because he should be taking his whole body. Still, the situation stands. He's a schmuck. The comparison is unnecessary. Take your lady out. But yeah. You take your lady out. Yeah. Yeah. So what what was the what what was the exact question?

What do you make of this? Yeah. Oh. You make of it that you're asking he's a schmuck, it should be taking you out. I mean, here's the dude. The the guy the guy goes out and he works. He he doesn't bring his own lunch so he eats while he's out of work. And when he comes home, he's ready to be home and he doesn't wanna go out again. Yeah. The annual vacation thing, gotta do something about that. You should wanna be able to spend some time going no time? A year and a half worth of never going out once? I mean, here's the thing. There's this weird unwritten thing in people's minds that, like, hey, I wanna go to this festival.

My husband hates country music. I can't go and he's a jerk for not taking me. You should just go without him or take a friend of yours or something. Like, it's not realistic to say, hey, here's what I super love. If you don't super love it with me, then you're a jerk. You know, like, maybe he should go take his wife because his wife wants to go and there's no one else available. He's like, yeah, I'll take you, so you get to go. But, like, you can't be mad at him for not liking country music or wanting or not wanting to be out of the house all the time. Right? That's just him. Know, it depends, like, if he's sitting in his underpants watching cartoons. Well, now we're talking about a different thing. But if we're talking about, look, I'm out of the house all the time for work, I just I like being home. I like it here. Yeah. You know, this is this is just me. You just gotta be careful there, you know? Like he should take his wife out. Yes. He should be going to places she wants to go. Sure. But like it shouldn't be this huge wedge,

you know, like if the guy don't wanted to play nineteen eighties Pac Man at the convention because he don't dig on it, then leave him at home and go without him. It's fine. It doesn't make your marriage bad. It doesn't make your husband bad. Just means you like nineteen eighties video games, and he don't. And that has to be okay. You gotta find some leverage there. Nobody else? I agree with that. Yeah. No. Yeah. I agree. Bubba, you wanna say, no. He's a schmuckertin. I do. I do. I I get that. Like, I actually to equate this, I I kinda deal with this with with my fiance quite a bit. She's she's on a totally different wavelength than me. Like She does not like Dungeons and Dragons. No. She

Poor running poetry. Actually, she gets mad that I haven't Weird. Like, she she gets mad that I haven't invited her to that, that's why I love her because I appreciate that she's nerdy like me. But, no, like, she, very specifically Civic Center. So she likes going to plays. And so I I don't remember ever seeing most Disney movies ever. I just never cared for them. I don't ever wanna go to Disneyland or Disney World. It doesn't make things fun for me. I'm excited that Star Wars is Disney now. That's it, though. But, like, we just went and spent, like, a lot of a lot of money on, tickets to go see Aladdin. And she made a huge deal out of it. She was like, I'm going to see it with with my sister and my mom, and I want you to be there in the back of my head. I'm sitting here like, I have I have no no desire to go see this play. But at the same point in time, like, I knew it meant something to her. And it meant something to her, and it meant something that I was there to experience it with.

And did I like it? No. It was dumb, and it was stupid, and it was uncomfortable. I'm a big dude. I barely fit in the seat. It was socially awkward because I'm, like, hanging on something. Not enjoy any bit of it? No. You were a gauch simpleton. Oh, gauch. Also from 2014. I was gonna say that was a while ago as well. A gauch simpleton was something you said. Okay. Fair enough. No. I didn't enjoy it all. I didn't think was funny. I didn't think it was it was entertaining. I thought it was stupid. And I really would like, I'm glad I went because I loved, like, seeing her reaction to certain things and, like, she would, like, like, kinda just randomly, like, jolt me on the leg just, like, because she was excited about something. And it was fun to be there for her. Now did I enjoy it? No. Would I ever enjoy going to a country music festival for her? No. But I love her, and she loves things, and I wanna be involved in things that she loves. And if it's if it's it's been two weeks since he's taken me out and I hate him now, that's ridiculous. But if it's been a year and a half and you can't remember the last time your husband took you out even if it's like, hey, baby doll, I'm hungry. It's 03:00 in the morning. We're not sleeping. Let's go to a Denny's. I don't care what you're doing. Take your wife out and make her know that she's important to you and you're making time.

Because even if it's outside of the house that it's something stupid, it takes you half an hour, if that's what means something to her, you need to meet her halfway on that and own up to it and take your lady out. Yeah. I'm not saying that he doesn't have some room to grow here, you know, but they've been married seven years. Right. Seven years. I I think the I'm gonna go to a play because I wanna support you. It just starts it starts to become unnecessary. Right? I know you support me. I know you love me. We've been married a while. Right? I get it. And so, like, I I I agree with what you're saying, and I'm not I'm not trying to defend him. I'm just trying to put it into a little bit of perspective here. Like, if he shows up at home and he's like and and and and she has to cook for him and he refuses to go out, yeah, he's being he's being a jerk. Right? If he shows up after working and cooks the meal and he's not like, hey, I'm gonna sit on my butt while you make me a feast. Right. You know, that's different. Know? So, like, there's a little bit of nuance there. But I I'm just saying that, like, it it gets so difficult because they people get this idea of of what a perfect

man or perfect woman in their marriage, what it should look like, what it's supposed to look like. It's supposed to look like whatever you guys make it look like. Yeah. Right? That's what whatever makes it so you two can live together and support each other and follow Jesus, that's what it looks like. And and if that means that some husbands will go hand in hand doing a 10 k with their wife because that's what they wanna do. And but like other husbands like me will sit in the van with the kids while my wife runs a five k because I don't run no five k's, you know, and that's okay too. You know? Like, there's just ways to figure this out. And and I I think she might be doing a little bit marriages start to get in real trouble when you start looking outside of your own house on how other marriages work without actually knowing people, but you start to idealize the way that their marriage works. And then you start to look at your spouse as if they are not as good as, say, this spouse or their marriage is not as good as this marriage and whatever. And, like, there's healthy ways to get advice from other couples. There's also unhealthy ways of doing it and peering in through the window, you know, on the outside of relationship and then and then shaming your husband because he doesn't run you to to Atlanta on the weekends. That's dangerous. It's just it's just a little unfair.

Okay. They might It's like might also be poor. You what know I'm saying? He's like, we can't afford of course, he's he goes out with his buddies. Apparently, he's hitting the town. He's going to Long John Silver. Yeah. That's right. At the LJ's tearing it up for $9. You got the two fish two chicken platter? You kidding me? Living long. What's secular to say about that one? I always add a piece. I always add a piece of chicken. You're a champion. Yeah. I am a champion. That is right. Secular Secular says, it appears you are married a man who is selfish and self centered. Oh, man. Here we go. He has a social life, His daily lunches with his buddies. Was he always like this? You should enjoy dinner. Did he eat lunch? Yeah. Was always a lunch eater.

You know, what's Never skipped it once. Would you have the same complaint if, like, it was a company cafeteria and the food was just like the company provided it? And I met my buddies Breadsticks. At the cafeteria and we ate together. Not no cost involved. What is this the problem that I'm around other people? That seems so super unfair. Alright. Secular continues. You should enjoy dinners out and movies too, but you may have to do those things with friends instead of your homebody spouse. If you have a job and income of your own, do not sit at home feeling deprived. If you don't have a job, it's time to find one. When you do, it would help you feel better about yourself and less isolated. It didn't say anything about the guy refusing to to go put the money out if she wanted to go out. Right. I think he just doesn't wanna go. That's what I think. And he's gotta he's gotta come out of that a little bit, but he he don't wanna go. It does that make you the the is he the worst person in the world? He don't like being out and about. No. I mean, we don't know what he does for a living too. I was picturing him sitting in an office. May maybe he has a really hard manual job. He's just tired. Yeah. Maybe he's a clown, and he always has to be, like, on all the time. Exactly. He doesn't wanna go to the circus. Yeah. He could be an introverted dude, you know, where he goes to work, and it takes everything out of him to have to deal with people, and then he comes home. Air traffic controller. I bet I bet he's an arty character. I bet he's goofy. He has to sit in that suit all day and deal with kids, and it sucks, and he hates everything about it. And he goes home, and she's like, let's just go out. And he goes, I've been dealing with kids all day. Yeah. I don't wanna do it. I mean, he needs to lay on the couch and dine diners?

I don't think so. That's fair. He's goofy. Yeah. That that seems likely. I think we've we've nailed it. Congratulations, fellas. We They have that hidden. Their characters. Alright. Public service announcement. Here we go. Oh, no. It is a question. You're live from the path. What's the best way to gain the attention of a stranger who is blind? The heck? Hey, blindo. I don't know. Excuse me. With a Don't

a sighted person, I would make sure I caught his or her eye before speaking. I tried a straightforward, excuse me, sir, but we were in a public place and he didn't realize I was talking directly to him. I ended up tapping him on his shoulder. Yeah. But in general, I think it's rude to touch strangers and he jumped a foot. Is there a better solution? I mean, you might wanna scare the blind man, sneak it up on him. Here's the deal. Is there is there a oh, I don't know. Is there an occupational hazard to that where, like, you're gonna be jumpy? I mean, yeah. Like, cons you lose one of the like, the like, you lose a sense. It's it's it's understandable to be jumpy. Yeah. Who's touching me? What are they gonna do? Right. Yeah. Exactly. Like, I have no way of assessing the threat here Yeah. Until I hear from you. You tap me on the shoulder. They're very well maybe a person with a gun behind me. I sure hope it's a lady that's trying to get my attention in this public place to tell me I dropped to 20. I mean, just be a little louder. I I mean or or, like, position yourself. Because yeah. Yeah. I I'm sure they they, that that their senses are of of such that, like, it's not like they can't tell when people are talking to them. It is harder, though, because you don't have a visual confirmation, which is the same reason it would scare the crap out of you if someone just grabbed your arm. Yeah. So, like, I mean,

they're not being rude. Just give it a couple shots first. Came? Well, here's the thing. Are you daredevil? I actually think the arm are you daredevil? Shut up, little man. I think I think it would actually be less awkward if you skip the tap. The tap is weird. Like, if you if you grabbed him up by the bicep and said, excuse me, sir. Hey. I'm on your left side. Excuse me, sir. You can hear me over here. I'm touching your arm, but, like, the tap tap tap, that is creepy. It's a little it's a little scary. Although, I just was talk I was thinking while you guys were talking about you don't know if it could be a guy with a gun. I feel like you'd have balls of steel as a blind man. You have no idea if he's got a gun or not. You're like, whatever. Shoot me. I don't I can't even see it coming. So I don't know. I have a gun in your back. I don't know if you do or not. So Especially if you're daredevil, then you definitely have nerves of steel. You're ready to tear it up.

Ben Burdock. I think the grab by I think grabbing the bicep area and a and a excuse me. If you couple those two things together, I think that's the way to do it. Alright. I appreciate that. That's fair. Yeah. Secular says, oh, so the question is, is there a better solution? Secular says, yes, there is. One should never touch or grab a sightless person. According oh, man. This I'm gonna get schooled by a by a federation. Say according to? According to the National Federation of the Blind, what you should have done was to have repeated, excuse me, sir, and identified yourself from a short distance away, preferably directly in front of him. We talk okay. We we said that. We weren't completely wrong. I mean Mike wanted to accost him on the bicep. I did say Eric, can I tickle your armpit? No. You just I'm on your left. No. Like you On your left like a passenger on a bike lane. Like you would, say, a 10 year old kid.

You know what I'm saying? Okay. Who was naughty? No. No. Like a naughty kid? Why does it have to be an aggressive gotcha? That's not what I'm saying. It's just a it's just a casual walk up. Firm, and and they know. Excuse me. Yeah. That's all. But, like, standing in front of him, it sounds like that like the Blues Brothers movie where, sir, sir, excuse me, sir. That's right. Excuse me, sir. I have no idea which who you're talking to. How is he supposed to know that? Especially on a crowded street. He'd be talking to 50 people. Right. What does the National Federation for the Blind even know? Me, I'm a diamond expert in this, obviously, because I'm a, not b, not a blind for the sightless. That is not something I do exist. Yeah. And that the NF the NFBS.

Hey, man. Are we doing another are we doing another one of those? No. That's it. Alright. Well, can I can I tell a funny story real quick? Yes. K. One of the funniest things I've ever seen in my entire life, this is I'm a total jerk for this, and it was it was seriously one of fun. I was downtown at work driving around waiting to to go to a meeting real quick. I had, five minutes before a meeting as I was driving around Main Drag. Right? And I saw two sightless people, because apparently that's the right way to put it. Two sightless people walking down the street together. Right? One of the gals

made the other one angry apparently, and she knocked her cane out of the other one's hand Oh. With her cane like a sword move. Oh, man. And started laughing because she knew that her friend was trying to find her cane now. And every time she found the cane, the other sightless gal would kick it out of the way. Holy cat. Then she would have to use her cane to find the cane again

and then kick it again. And so I watched this for thirty seconds at a stoplight, and I was uncontrollably laughing at at sightless, unsightless bullying. That was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life, and I'm a schmuck because they a little bit evil. They got terrible person, Bubba. I'm a terrible person, but they got mad at me because they heard me laughing because I had my truck window down. And I don't know how they could just tell that I was laughing at their situation because both of them turned around to the direction of the laughter which was me and started yelling at me and flipping me off. I mean, what do you expect if you're gonna get a blind on blind violence out on the sidewalk? Right. Like, it's weird. Like, this gal is is hands open trying to find her cane, and the other gal who was also sightless kept kicking it away from her. And so she was basically saying, you can't see anymore at all and eliminating that possibility every time she came close to catching it. It's one of the things you're allowed to do if you're blind. If you're not blind, you're not allowed to laugh. But if you're blind, dude Dude, I couldn't stop. I this all happened at at a stoplight, and I almost got I was getting honked at because I couldn't leave. Oh, no. I couldn't pull away when the light turned green. I was like, there's no way I'm missing any more chance of this because this will never happen again, and I can't miss it. It was one of the funniest things we've ever seen. That's five one five five one seven. That is understandable. Zero zero eight five

Tell me how much of a schmuck I am and try and beat my my dungeon and dragon poetry. Yeah. Yeah. These are both good options. Hey. You've listening live from the path. Thanks for hanging out with us. We really do appreciate it. It'd be good, it's good to be back with you this week. We have full intention of being back with you again next week. But, I mean, we'll see how the cards play out. Kind of a shifty operation around here. Until the until then, be faithful in the means. God will handle the ends. You've been listening to Live From The Path.

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