Des MoinesEmplified.com, livefromthepath.org. Hello. Let me go ahead and get myself up there. It's good to be here. We switched our time slot. We were previous to this point. We were the Saturday morning at 6 a.m. crew. I don't know about everybody else, but that, I don't know. I had a little bit of trouble. That was getting up at 4.30. I had a little bit of trouble getting up and making it in here. It's challenging. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad to be here at the end Monday night. I'll tell you what happened to me yesterday, though. I was out at the Walmart, and I'm the guy that goes to Walmart when you need a quick in and out. I don't know what happens to my wife. She gets in the Walmart door, and she gets swallowed up by the aisles, like the oranges. I don't know what goes on in there, but I dropped her off, and she's in there for two hours. Those oranges are very alluring. Yeah, you know what fruit does to ladies. Absolutely. So anyway, I go in there, and I got all my stuff. I made a pretty good haul. I got pretty much the week's worth of groceries in 35 minutes.

It was a pretty good rag. So I walk up, and I use exclusively the self-checkout. Like, I'm ruined for the regular checkout. I haven't used a traditional checkout where it's available in probably, I don't know, two years. In fact, I get a little irritated when there's not a self-checkout available. So I had this self-checkout, and I got in there, and I was two people back. And here's what I don't understand about the self-checkout is the person that knows they obviously aren't made for it. Like, this is not for them, right? Because two people in front of me are these couple of people. God bless them. But just a couple of random yahoos, you know, who come in, and they got, like, seven items, right? And they obviously hate technology. Like, they got up there just as I was walking up, and they scanned something, and it kind of beeps at them. Of course, like, these are the same people who are using the self-checkout, and they're getting a rated R movie, vodka, you know, gold spray paint, whatever it is that you can't buy on your own that you need someone to, like, clear off. This is what these people are buying. And they literally had, like, three bottles of Jack Daniels. What about gold spray paint is not allowed? You're not allowed to buy. They have to clear you on gold spray paint because I think kids huff it. Really? Gold specifically? Yeah, they'll ID you for. Actually, it might be anything with, like, metal in it. You can huff gold?

I don't know. That seems like an expensive habit. I got ID'd for, like, don't even ask me why. Maybe I was making a pair of shorts for Dan. I was getting some gold spray paint. Yes. And so it was like four years ago, and I got ID'd for gold spray paint. So I'm aware that it happens. What were you using it for? You said you don't remember? No, I have no idea. You were huffing it. Some kind of gaudy something that I was making. You've seen them dudes that huff, what is it, the spray air, the compressed air? I've heard of that, yeah. Yeah, like the computer air? Yeah. I don't know what's in it. Is it just the aerosol agent that's doing it? Is it a CO2 thing or something? I have no clue. That also seems like an expensive habit. I huff nothing. Huh. Yeah.

I'm sorry. Bumbo's in the line at the Walmart. Yeah, so what I don't understand is they think, I think they obviously know that this isn't for them, right? Like, don't you know when you're not good with technology? I don't know. Is anybody watching? I didn't watch The Apprentice for like the last three years. I watched the first three years, and then I could not stop watching it, The Celebrity Apprentice, because of Rod Begleyvich. He was extremely funny to watch. Like, I couldn't help but watch him because he's so technological behind. Like, he doesn't know how to, he couldn't even turn on the computer. It was funny to watch him. And he was like politicking all the time. Anyway. He was, I couldn't, they just threw him off, so now I'm done for the season. I can't watch it anymore. But anyway, so I get behind these couple of yahoos, and like, has nobody had this experience where you got behind a guy who doesn't know how to use it? Oh, yeah. Because, like, here were the three symptoms of someone who has no idea. First of all, they buy all the wrong things. Things that you can't buy in the self-checkout. The second thing that happens is, like, they will scan, they'll do something obviously wrong.

Like, they'll swipe the thing, they'll swipe, they don't know what the barcode is out. Like, they don't understand the system all. They, like, just kind of wave it in the vicinity, and then, you know, nothing happens. And they're like, what's wrong with this? Yeah, they're, like, huffing around, and they look back at you, and they're like, this stupid thing. I'm like, you know, what did you use it for? Like, you had to know that when you walked up to this thing, that this wasn't for you. Right. I mean, the sign says, this is all on you, chief. You know, it says self-checkout. I mean, this is completely on your technological advances, or your patience to even use the operation. You know, and that you're shocked and dismayed that you can't do it, and then now mad at the machine that it's turned on you. I mean, it seems like you set your own self up to fail. Exactly. Yeah. I don't understand it. And, like, I kind of felt bad because I thought, I mean, you know, they're just trying to, I don't know. Hold up the line? Well, actually, it's faster is the problem. It's like there's not near as many people in this self-checkout line. Now, see, I completely disagree with your stance on self-checkout. Like, they put a self-checkout in at the Menards, and there's nothing that irritates me more than that self-checkout at the Menards. Mostly because, like, they're charging me the exact same prices, and now I'm doing twice as much work. Right, and you don't have to pay for the person that, I want you to do it.

I want you to bag it. You know, I had to pick it all out. It seems like the con of the century, right? They're making me feel that I'm doing things correctly or I'm getting out faster or, you know, I'm really making some progress. And really, they're just jilting me out of cash. You know, they're paying somebody not to do it anymore, and now I have to go through the hassle when it used to be, you know, they don't give me the option of the manager light. You should give me a discount. Yeah, or you should get a discount. You should get, you know, a couple bucks off because you would have paid that guy, whatever. Yeah, and then when things go bad, you know, like when someone used to hit the old dinger light, you know, and it'd flash, and like, oh, it'd be just a second. You know, they'd come over, and they'd say, oh, Nancy, what's going on, blah, blah, blah. They'd help you. It'd be great. But when I screwed up, it's a big, hairy deal. Like, I broke the machine. Well, usually, though, isn't there somebody monitoring a set of three or four other deals? Yeah, I assumed it was to keep down theft. Yeah, but I think it's also part of the user error thing. Have you had help from them? I don't think I have. I've seen them do it. See, I've actually had help from them because, you know, they put the weight sensors so they know if you've put the thing in the bag or not, you know? Yes, yes. And I screwed up all the time, you know? Like, I either throw it down so they're like, there's too many items or, you know, something.

Right, I was going to ask about that because I tend to – I usually only use it if I'm just something quick. You know, I've got, like, one thing or something. And otherwise, if I've got a whole grocery thing, I don't want to do it, you know? Right. But if I've got one thing and it's faster, so – and that is faster in that case. But I don't want a bag, you know? I'm just going to carry it. Yeah. But if you don't put that in the bag, they, you know – Yeah, just the way you measure it. They get super fast. Or it says you didn't, you know, and it keeps – I'm trying to move on. Maybe I've got two things or three things, but I'm trying to move on. I didn't really bag it or something, and you've got to bag it. You don't understand about that. I don't even know why they even do that because once it's been rung up, what do they care what I do with it? You know, they're already going to charge me for it. I could put it in my – you know, inside of my shirt and, like, I've stolen it, but they – As long as you have your receipt. Yeah, they rung me up for it. What do they care? Yeah, because isn't – because don't they have the sensors at the door that go off if you took something without scanned? Right, if it hasn't been scanned, they know that you didn't. So it's what happens, though, when the sensor goes off. Everybody looks up and says, oh, look at that.

And then they keep – yeah, and then they keep – I know. And they keep going, or they just give you the, ah, you're good. I saw you. I saw you check out. Like, I could have stolen four things. I see that CD in your bag pocket. No big deal. Yeah. Is that a color TV you got behind you? Ah, no big deal. Not everything has that sensor in it, though. I mean, only certain items carry the sensor. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's not like your dog food has that sensor in it. Yeah, but very few people steal a 40-pound bag of dog food. Yeah, but here's a bag pocket. Is that true, though? Maybe I'm under the wrong impression that it's just linked to the barcode. No, it's electronic. Yeah, it's an electronic deal. So it's going to only go off with important type of things? Yeah, with certain items. I haven't even seen them, like, in razors. Disposable razors.

Well, I think they have to do it for expensive items and illicit material, you know, because they can't say, you know, people have been stealing Sudafed out of here, you know, or people have been stealing razors and causing a bunch of trouble. So you could steal dog food. I suppose you could. I suppose if you take – you know the thing to do would be rip a corner and just get it in your pocket. And then every week you just take a little bit more kibbles and eventually you're on the way out. What I didn't realize is that the barcodes were store-specific. Like, I should have known that. I don't know why I didn't think about it because I have a terrible habit of buying soda somewhere and then going somewhere else and taking my soda right back in with me. Sure. You know, and the wife usually gets real irritated, like, you're not bringing that in there. I'm like, I'll bring it wherever I want. I bought it. You know, it's mine. And she's like, well, they're going to think you stole it. I said, but I didn't steal it. She goes, I'm going to think you stole it. And I'm like, but I didn't, you know. And so I've actually had it once where they thought I stole it. And I said, I didn't steal it. And they said, let's scan it.

I said, great. You know, and they scan it. They're like, it's not coming up. And I said, why do you think? It's because I didn't buy it here, you know. And, of course, I was unnecessarily confrontational about this because it most certainly looks like I stole it and drank half of it while I was walking around the store. Right. So, but, yeah, I mean, the barcodes, you know, I don't even know why I never, it was a big shock to me. But, you know, they scan it on the way in, and they can tell whether that pop came from that store. And so, you know, don't feel ashamed about bringing stuff you own into a store, you know. It's not like I take off my shoes and say, I'm afraid they're going to think I stole these shoes, you know. I've had these shoes for months. They're mine. I'm wearing them wherever I want. You know, my daughter, my oldest daughter, bought a billfold a couple years ago, and she would go into Hy-Vee, and nothing would happen, but she would beep when she'd go out. And it, like, there was, like, the little sensor in the billfold that she never found. It took us, like, six weeks to find it. We kept tearing everything apart. Was it pricey? Was it a pricey billfold?

If it was from our house, probably not. No. Well, that's weird. Well, see, maybe that shoots the expensive. Is there something elicit about the billfold? Can you huff the billfold? I think it was a genuine imitation of leather that, if you breathe it deeply, it, yeah, it's pretty great. Huh. No, it was probably 10, 20 bucks. I don't know what it was. Have you ever done this, though? You don't have the, like, every single apple has a little sticker on it or something, and I guess that identifies which apple it is. It's like a barcode for the apple, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But, like, you just, I just go in and eat an apple, and just keep the little sticker and give it to them. Not that I go off the street just to eat an apple, but, you know, you're walking around, I've never done that. Eat an apple, and then say, hey, I bought an apple. But what did you do with the core? Put it back. Good point.

I don't know. Find a trash can. There's trash cans. I don't know. I think you hid it behind a dog food. I think that's what I would do. But apples, they weigh them, though. I mean. No, I, no, that's not a bad point. I think they do weigh them. They sell them by the weight. They do. I think you're ripping off apples. No, but they've never had a problem. I mean, not like I've done that a million times, but they've never had a problem with that. They're just like, oh, okay. You know. I wonder what they. I mean, because given I could have eaten the apple and, you know, not said anything, but, I mean, what is it, 50 cents? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe they're fleecing you on the price now.

Maybe you have to make up the weight, and they're like, that's a six-pound apple that man. Yeah, that's a buck. I think he ate two. It should have been 20 cents. Hey, I'm screwing myself over, I guess. That's true. Maybe if you'd eaten something before you've gone to the store. This cost $4. Is that our sponsor of the fitness this half hour? Yeah. Do we have a Red Bull song you got ready to go? It gives you wings. I don't know. I don't know if there's a song, but. Okay, yeah. I mean, $4 for a Red Bull is a lot. That's more than I would be willing to spend. I bought some kind of, I've been trying to get off the soda a little bit. I took some kind of test at the woman's work, right, where you lick it, and I'm overly acidic. Like, my body is starting to, the thing, the propaganda on the back was that my body is starting to degenerate upon itself. Now, you have to clarify, she works at a dentist's office, right? You're not just licking things at some random. It was a chiropractor.

Oh, a chiropractor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. There's a lot of acidic people at the dentist's office. So you're not just a. You wouldn't catch me going to the dentist's office. Licking things at, you know. No, so I go in there, and it says I'm overly acidic, and I think, well, maybe it's a soda. So I'm going to try to cut back on the soda. So I've been kind of, I've been drinking a bunch of water, and then I was drinking some soda, or I picked out, to try to avoid the soda, I picked out some kind of energy thing. And this, but Mike tried it, too. This is the nastiest thing. Like, I don't even know what these flavors come in. This drink came in a bottle shaped like a rocket ship. Yeah, the bottle was real cool, actually. I mean, not accounting for taste, but the bottle looked pretty awesome. Yeah, and I can't place my finger on this. It tastes like shoe. Yeah. It tastes like shoe with pomegranate in it. Yeah, pomegranate shoe. That's wild. And some salt or something.

See, it was very, very bad. See, I wouldn't trust an energy drink shaped like a rocket ship, because it obviously, if they have to really visually enhance the whole deal to give you the pressure of energy, you know, just let the drink speak for itself. Give me energy. I'm done with it. You know, I'm good. If you've got to convince me that it has energy by showing me a rocket ship. Well, now, hold on a minute. I think there's something to the packaging of some of these drinks, though, because I tell you what, water is fantastic. And I always decried the purchasing of bottled water, but nothing beats one of those cold Fuji waters. Yeah, and that bottle is cool looking. It is a really cool one. Yeah. Yeah, with like the tropical looking stuff in the back, you know. Yeah. It looks expensive. Yeah. And it most certainly is expensive. But it's good. I mean, I will buy it. It's like a special treat for yours truly, is going out and buying a Fuji bottled water. Do you think that there's, is there any other products that come to mind that the packaging

sells it? Like, it's really not anything special, but the packaging has convinced you that it is premium. I'm trying to think what it looks like. Sure there is. I don't know. I don't know that I have anything right off the bat. I should have had one available before I pondered the question. That's a great question. You know, they do that with spaghetti sauce, though. And I don't know if I can say which is, but some of them, I mean, you look at like ragu, that looks cheap. If you just look at it, it's like, yeah, it's a pretty basic, bland-looking label, even. There's some other ones that look fancy, and I tend to go towards those. And it's probably cheaper sauce. Yeah, yeah. And I don't even know necessarily. But you go for it. And yeah, I can't, and I'm not going to say it, I can't compare, like, oh, that tastes way better. But I tend to go for that just because the, like, ragu, that looks cheap. That looks terrible. Well, you know what's a good example is those, the milk in the glass bottles. Like, for some reason, I just think that I am getting, I'm like, if they're willing to invest in these glass bottles, their product must be awesome, you know?

They've got to love me. You know, and it really is pretty good milk, but I mean, I can't justify four and a half box. You know what I mean? That's a lot of money for milk. But I mean, to go the opposite way, like some things that are really expensive for nothing other than their product is crackling oat bran. I mean, it is the most expensive cereal out there, and its box is a bowl with empty crackling oat bran in it. You know, there's like one left. Just to clarify, was that a thumbs up or thumbs down on a ragu? I gave it a thumbs down, just by looking. Because Grace's Mimi has a ragu the best on the chat. Yeah, but you know, I can't imagine it being the best. There's direct confrontation with you in the world. I think you're going to have to back up your anti-ragu stance. See, but the only thing I really have to go with here, anti-ragu, is it's just a label. Like, it looks cheap. I don't want to eat it. You know, but you could, you ever seen that Bill Cosby episode where he's mixing his big special spaghetti sauce, and he's throwing leaves in it and sticks, and it's smelling, and then literally he just, he sneaks in and he just gets the can from the grocery store and pours it in when no one's looking. So he's making it look like he's making something homemade and special, but it's just a regular. So you could probably do that to me.

You could probably slip some ragu in and be like, fancy jar, you show me a fancy jar and eat ragu, and I'd say, I think it looks great. I could see that. Pull a switch. I'm the exact same with soda, especially. Like, hee-haw is terrible. I mean, it's just terrible. Like, have you seen the can? Hee-haw. Who names this thing? I know. It's a donkey noise. Well, that's the thing. Or like the orange is just called orange. Right. And what marketing genius from the company is like, let's not only make it look cheap, but let's make it sound cheap. Yeah. Right. Like, hee-haw. You know, I mean, I don't know what sounds, I mean, Pepsi is a name that's out there. You know, it's very synonymous with its own product. It's off the beaten path, you know, and that's what identifies it, you know, with that. And it's obviously billions of dollar advertising. But, I mean, the guy that goes, cola, let's call it that, and right, cola on the side, straight red can, go.

You know, I mean, it's just because you're buying a cheap product does not necessarily mean that you can be jilted by terrible marketing and poor advertising. You know, just, I don't know. It just seems like a waste. And it doesn't cost any more, even if you're going to make, you know, maybe the packaging look cheap or maybe it is cheap in material. But it doesn't cost any different what you name it. Right. You could have a cheap-looking label that at least says something. And look at the Pepsi label. You know, the Pepsi label is a dot cut in half with two different colors and the word Pepsi. I don't know. They changed that sailboat-looking thing, and I haven't been very happy about that. Yeah. Like the, yeah, the, they changed it to the Pepsi thing. There's like a little sail-looking thing in the middle. I can't demonstrate it on the cam to look like the Pepsi logo. I'd like you to give it a fair shot. Let's see. It's like this business right here. I'm fairly certain what you're doing is offensive in the American Sign Language. Pepsi. I'm actually not allowed in American Samoa for that little move right there. Where is American Samoa? I don't know. What? Why aren't you allowed there then?

In what instance did you do that move? And then American Samoa caught on to it and booted you. They sent me a letter. It's on the list. Based on word of mouth? It was registered. Dear Mr. Fusa, you, I don't know what kind of dialect they have in American Samoa, but they go, you will know in American Samoa. We have an inheritance for you, but you are not welcome here. You don't know where we're located, but you cannot come here. But it is most certainly of Middle Eastern descent. We built the pyramids. That's a joke, by the way. I know they didn't build the pyramids. Just in case. Yeah. Just in case. I like the, you know, the Walmart version of things or, you know, Target version. The great value. And they have to call it like, especially like the medicine type of stuff, you know, ibuprofen, they call it like walprofen. Right. Like, you got to, I mean, I guess the, you know, are like walafed or, you know, is that a Sudafed or, and I guess, you know, that's probably the point is, I mean, obviously they're just putting walafed, but I mean, so.

What would be funny is the guy that goes, I swear by walafed. I use it every day. It is the best product. Don't depend. But I had to convince my wife though, that, that when I brought home the generic, you know, ibuprofen or whatever it was, that, that it's the same thing. It's literally the same thing. Well, you try to convince the health insurance company, the same operation, you know, because they'll do the, they'll do the exact same thing. You know, they'll jilt you and then they'll, they make a, man, one of them heart medicines is like, they don't offer a generic version of it. And like, I mean, I always wonder that, I mean, they, they, you know, they price these medications at what they are. And I assume there's a lot of, you know, study and research that, you know, that has to go on the cost of making this thing. But like, you know, some of these things are like 300 bucks, a pill and generic isn't available, you know? And so, I mean, why don't they have a wall, you know, what's stopping them? You know, did they, you know, what, like when does that time, when does it become common, like a common law that you can copy a product, you know, like after how long? Well, but I don't think, but something like medicine related, I don't think, I mean, you know, Tylenol doesn't have a patent on ibuprofen, you know what I mean? They can make wallpropen, you know, generic. I mean, that's the thing, ultimately, but ultimately, but that's the thing is like, ultimately, it's still ibuprofen, like it's the exact same thing.

So if you're paying a dollar more for actual Tylenol versus Walmart Tylenol, or, you know, Walmart ibuprofen, but it's the same, you're literally paying for it just to say Tylenol. Yeah. Because it's literally the same thing. I always swear that I'm going to look into that too, like, what is ibuprofen, you know? Yeah, I know. Like, can I grow ibuprofen at my place? Save me a little money. Maybe I'll just put it on my crock of note brand, and now this thing is money. So the chat says that you can get, 10 years, you can get the generic. 10 years. Yeah, but, which seems like a long time, right? But you probably have to, by the time they patent the original one, it's not like it's on the market at the time they patent it, right? It probably takes three or four years worth of tests and stuff. True, they market it forever to get it mainstream. I used to take Claritin, and it was a prescription, and I paid big bucks for that puppy, and I was the happiest guy in the world when, now I can get, you know, wallopened or whatever. Is that the allergy stuff? Yeah, allergy stuff. I'll tell you what, you know what I found out last year, and I've got real bad allergies spring and fall, and I've had them for most all my life, and I've always taken Allegra D, and that's just what works for me. It's just what I've always taken, and I found out last year on my, I've worked for the current

company I'm at for two and a half years now, and so last year was the first year under that plan that I went and tried to get my prescription, and the doctor, you know, wrote me a prescription, which is what I always have, you know, and I went, and the pharmacy said, well, your, you know, coverage won't cover this, but they suggest just taking Claritin. Like, it's the same thing, and I'm saying, believe me, it's not the same thing. I mean, I would, you know, I would have taken this for years if it worked the same, and it does not, so I, so I, now I have to take Claritin, and it works, I mean, it's better than not taking anything, but it does not work the same, and, and they said, they said, well, you can still buy this, but it's like $300 for probably, well, one month prescription or something, you know, and, and so now I'm, yeah, result, you know, to Claritin. Why is his health issues funny? I'm sorry. The chat is debating as to whether to not, or to reveal the score of the Butler, of the Butler game. Oh, do it. Because they're not really paying attention to the show. Oh, shoot. Well, I'm interested. We are much more exciting than a national championship between Butler and Duke. That's true. Pants, no doubt, is, is, has not only claimed to be watching the show, but is, but is obviously, as I normally, yeah. Well, tell me the score. Or has he told you? No, no, they, no, they can't, they can't say it.

One of the, one of the, the chat folks, under the handle Sonia Lasagna. I wonder who that could be. Does not, has paused the game. Did you ask Sonia Lasagna if she uses ragu? Exactly. Exactly what kind of sauce do you use? Sonia, did you, yeah, did you, um. Dan, find out the score. Did you talk about the, the ragu? I guess I saw a couple of chimes in on the ragu. Sonia, I would be interested to know if, if, if you use ragu. Prego. Prego. I get it. Prego's like a step up from ragu, but it's not, it's not fancy. I think you might want to tread lightly, Zach. Yeah, I'm going to get on a lash back here. You don't make a lot of friends. I'm going to get to. Let's forget these talks here. Grace says, Mimi, what is your thought on, on prego? If you could throw that out there. I think I'm interested to know now that you've thrown ragu was the deal. I wonder what the deal is. What do you, what do you use?

What do you guys use? Hunts. It's like 97 cents. That's not. A big red can. That's not a ketchup. Is that a spaghetti sauce? No, no. It's like a spaghetti sauce. So your wife's been telling you for years, it's a squirt of ketchup and three mushrooms. There you go. A little water. How come spaghetti tastes better everywhere else? I hope you don't say that. Oh. It's out now. Prego is too sweet. It's too sweet. Actually, I've noticed that. That's just good. I don't know that I'd say, I don't know, I've noticed that specifically about prego, I guess, but I really cannot eat a spaghetti sauce that is too sweet. I don't know. It just irritates me. I'd rather have a harsh oregano or something to it.

I don't know. That sweetness sounds like I should have just ordered pudding and been done with it. Dinner is just a formality to get to the dessert for me anyhow. It's only for show so I can get a piece of cake like I want. At least have some onion and some garlic. I'm not sure if I've got this right, but I think we buy, it's like Bertolli's or something. Is that the ring of bell? Yeah, Bertolli's has got the jar that's shaped, it's got the shaped jar to it. It looks like there's like a column on it. It's cool. Like a rocket? It looks nice. And it's good. It looks like a rocket. It's shaped like a tomato. Just to convince you that it's a tomato sauce. You've got no belief in this. This stuff tastes like crap, but it looks like a space shuttle. Boy, dinner was fun last night. We've got a mobile now from our ceiling. I've got a spoon shaped like an airplane. Well, so Dan, you're Hunts, and Zach, you're Bertolli? Yep. Okay. I think we do the Newman's own marinara.

You know what? I've heard Newman runs, like he passed away, didn't he? Yeah, he did. He ran a really solid company. Like I almost wish that I purchased his stuff just based on his well-run company. He was so freaking liberal I couldn't buy his stuff. All right, Daniel. I'm just saying. I'd have to see where I got that information. Like I don't know his background views. Obviously, his political fortune. But I love him, I'm sure. Daniel does a daily search on who is the most liberal dude in America. And I hate him. Decides to cut off all products. I don't hate him. I'm just not going to give him my money. I don't go to a movie with Whoopi in it. I mean, you know, I have things. Well, I don't for different reasons. Yeah, I don't. I think you and the rest of the country. Besides, it's actually not funny. In case you were wondering, Sonia Lasagna uses Wagyu. Wagyu.

I like that one. Oh, and Grace's movie says that he gave all profits to charity. Newman did? Yeah, he sure did. Way not to support that, Dan. He helped people. Oh, yeah. He helped a lot of people. Boister the tethered saddles at the Hunts Company. We didn't clarify which charity, though. Yeah, exactly. What do you know about the Hunts Company that they're so such a guy? You just didn't look into him. I bet the top three presidents donate to the Democratic National Committee like it's going out of style. Do you have a problem with Democrats? No, they're my favorites. Otherwise, I wouldn't have anything to talk about. I still have my FDR loves Hunts bumper sticker. That's how I support him. Who lost to Bush? He's already a loser. I can't remember his name. His wife is the Heinz guy. She's a woman. Well, there was Al Gore.

No, no. It was Teresa Heinz. It was Teresa Heinz-Carrie. The boat people guy. Yeah, it was funny to watch him talk. Yeah, so I can't buy that either. I can't really buy anything. I got homegrown everything. You said you did. I make my own ibuprofen. I make my own wall fed. It's called HUD fed. Dan, you prove it. It's a HUD goo. Dan, you prove it. I'd buy it. You should put your own face on labels. I paint it red with a little splotch and everybody buys it. Actually, I do trust people that do that, though. If I went to a place and they're like, Bill's Cookies. I like that better than some kind of deliciously tasteful cookie shop. I like the guy that's like, I'm Wally and I make plungers. Buy Wally's plungers. Yeah. I don't know.

I would buy that. I would buy that from someone. I like to go into towns and go to little cafes that are obviously a ma and pa shop type stuff. Yeah. I ask them, are you Republican or Democrat? And then I say, who gives you ketchup? Exactly. And then after another half hour of inquisitions where they get their product, I leave in a huff. Pete. But I take some mints on the way down. Speaking of ketchup, did I hide an apple core behind the booth? Did you guys notice that they started painting the inside of the ketchup bottles red? Yeah. What a freaking rube that is. You go in there and instead of keeping the ketchup bottles full, they paint the inside red so it looks perpetually full. If that isn't the biggest deceit upon the restaurant purveyor that I've seen in a long time. Now, wait a minute. We had a good conversation about deceits by the restaurant purveyor. And that would be the new and improved automatic greeting at the drive-thru. Yeah. Oh, I hate those. Nobody likes it. It is the worst invention. Welcome to XYZ. Would you like to try it?

No! I can't for the life of me figure out what they think we're being fooled by. So it's usually like a 50-year-old woman or like a really nice effeminate style dude that's like, welcome to so-and-so. Would you like to try a value meal? And then you're like, no thanks, man. And then like 30 seconds later, some rocket teenager shows up and is like, what do you want? With a way different voice. If the guy that you hire, if you can't convince him to say, would you like a value meal, maybe you should consider hiring somebody else. You know, no one wants to talk to a computer. And what is he doing in the time that he used to would have introduced himself to us via, would you like whatever today? Yeah. And we'd say, no, give me a second. What's he doing during that period of time that he can't now do that? Yeah, exactly. Just standing there? I mean, the place is not, it's the same as the self-checkout, you know? Yeah, exactly. Like, it's just one more thing that's like, would you like to try a value meal? It's like, I'll make my own decisions. You don't tell me what to do. Yeah, maybe pretty soon they'll have the self-checkout fast food. Just grab your fries, scan it. Why not just push? Now, I would be on board with the push button. If you just rock up and be like, do, do, you know, that's fine.

You could cut that middle man out. Yeah. You know, and that way I can be blamed when I show up and you've got three pickles on my no-pickle sandwich. You know, I don't have to say, listen, Johnny Walprofen here didn't get my order right. Although it does take a lot longer to push the thing, especially if you're behind the people who can't do it right. Yeah, I can't appreciate it. You know, then you're already, you know, it's funny when you're behind somebody and you're getting mad because they've got a big family and they're hungry. As if, like, I have a right to, like, would you quit ordering more and take it up my time? And, like, the kids are hungry. Go inside. What a jerk am I? I refuse. My family hates me for this. I refuse to go through a drive-thru if there's anything special in the order. Because they don't ever, they're like, what? It's like, just get some eye contact. Have you ever been through a subway drive-thru? No. There's hardly any, but. The one right by my house, they block it with one of the employees' cars. So no one will go through it. Like, they just don't want anybody to use it. Is there really a drive-thru, though? Yeah, there's a drive-thru. Oh, yeah, because I only think I've seen one.

I went to University of Kansas and they had one down in Lawrence, Kansas. And it's worthless. I mean, like, you might as well, I know it seems like, you know, well, I guess normally you'd have to park and get into most subways anyways, right, and go in. Right. But, like, you might as well just do that because your sandwich is never going to come out right. Even though you spoke everything you wanted. And now, given, too, you can't watch them make it. And, man, I'm all over them when I'm watching them make my sandwich, you know. I don't know. Two more pickles, please. They try and put on the tomatoes with the cores in them. And, like, I have to actually, like, ask them, could you remove that from my sandwich, please? I'd like to not eat a core of a tomato. Now, see, now the subway is probably the only place you can get away with that, too. Because anywhere else they just spit in your food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as you bring up just, like, a half a second irritation, they're like, well, screw this guy. Well, and it's almost always where the guy is putting on and he kind of hesitates that half a second. Like, he recognizes it and then moves on. You're like, no, no, hold on. Let's back up to the tomato situation. That's terrible.

I don't want to eat that. Would you want to eat that? I want to see you eat that right now. And that situation's funny, too, because it's not like he buys the tomatoes, you know. What does he care? Give me new tomatoes. Just give me the stuff I want, you know. He's not the owner. That's the same thing with just about any, especially the bigger restaurants or bigger businesses in general, you know. It's like, you're not buying the stuff. Just hand it over, you know what I mean? Right. The guy up top is living just fine. Exactly. You know, you got to watch. You don't want to be fleecing people. You know, the guy up top, obviously, he's paying you. You know, he's a business owner. But, I mean, there's a certain amount, you know, like, I mean, if they want you to pump out a quality product, stop trying to, you know, hide half curly fries underneath the bottom of my fries and give me what I ordered, you know, just because you're too lazy to scoop it back out. I like fast food, though. Don't get this wrong.

I don't mean anything bad against fast food people. My name is Ben Foost. No, I guess just to clarify, my name is Ben Foost, and I do love fast food. As a matter of fact, if there is a fast food establish open between, say, 10 and midnight, and they would like to sponsor a segment of Life in the Path, of which I will eat their goods on air and oversell it on how great it is, I would be glad. As a matter of fact, I tell you what I go for. Do you guys see this? Now, they talked about this like six months ago, but I just saw it again today, and I actually, ah, crap, hold on. My wife's listening. So I cruised by the KFC today to glance at the menu to see if they had it, because they have that sandwich without the bread on it. Like, it's a piece of chicken, and then… Grilled chicken? Yeah. It's a huge one that sticks out of the… It's a grilled… On the commercial? No, I haven't seen it. I saw it on the news. I didn't see it advertised yet, though. Like, it's a piece of chicken with, like, lettuce and some kind of mustard and some kind of sauce and something else, and then another piece of chicken on top, and that's it. There's no bread.

But it's a chicken… Chicken sandwich. Chicken with chicken as the buns, and then, like, some kind of innards. Oh, like bacon, I think. Oh, and a cheese. Yeah. So, like, okay, so… This is getting more healthy as a bacon. So, bottom layer, bottom layer chicken, right? And then lettuce, and then bacon, and then cheese, and then chicken again. And this is at KFC, you said? Yeah, and I thought to myself, I have got to try that. I have got… So I drove up to the thing, and I look, and it's not on the menu, and I'm like… He goes, what can I get for you? I say, you got that chicken sandwich? And then, of course, I asked the wrong question. It's frigging KFC. They got chicken sandwiches. Yeah, we do have chicken sandwiches now. So he says, yeah. And I said, cool, I'll take it. And he goes… Then he gives the thing, and I pull around, and he hands me this lame chicken sandwich. I'm like…

Of course, I realize the error of my ways, and I'm like, when's the… Do you have the chicken sandwich with the chicken as the buns? And this guy, I think he's just messing with us. He looks at me like I'm the craziest man alive. You know? And then some other guy pops his head, and he's like, yeah, it's coming on Sunday. And so now I have to go back to KFC. I probably won't do it Sunday. Why? You hold off on chicken sandwiches on Sunday? Because if I run right out and get it, I don't know, isn't that a little bit egregious? I mean, is it really necessary to go out day one and get a double chicken and a bacon sandwich? You could have aborted your order and not paid a dime this afternoon, and you didn't do it. I felt like I reordered it, though. Like, I didn't want to just drive away and cackle. Like, I wanted the double chicken bacon and then drive away. That happens, though, at the work cafeteria is the salad bar is just way overpriced. I mean, you end up paying… I think everybody on their first week of employment there has made the mistake of going through the salad bar. You know they're going to weigh it. So, I mean, you know the more you put, the more you get to pay. But you go up, and it's like nine bucks. And you're like, nine bucks? I could have went out to eat for that. You know, I could have got a gourmet type of salad.

Right. Yeah. But it always gets me, because sometimes… So I know better now, and so I don't really get it. But sometimes I'll bring a sandwich or something and want a little side. So I'll go get a salad bar item, like, you know, potato salad or whatever little side thing. And, you know, like potato salad specifically, kind of is heavy in and of itself. But you go weigh it, and I did that, and it was like over $3. And I didn't… I mean, I wasn't trying to get, you know, a huge stack of… But it seemed reasonable. I thought, okay, $1.50 maybe. I mean, maybe two bucks. And it was like three and a quarter. But what are you supposed to do at that point? Because I suppose I could say, I'm not paying for it. Yeah. Or, you know, that's outrageous. I feel like slamming it down and being like, I ain't doing it, you know. But, I don't know. You kind of stuck. I made that mistake at the Hy-Vee one time. We were… It was like one of our kids' birthday parties, whatever. And my wife's like, go ahead and get something at the store.

So I got a couple balloons. I'm like, I'm going to get some potato salad. It has to be Emmett's, right? Your other kid's not even a year old. Yeah. Yeah. It's Emmett's, yeah. All right. That was pretty good reason. That's helpful. Oh, please do not stalk my children now that you know their names. I'm their uncle. I'm associated. So they have these pre-set out sizes, these pre-set out sizes at the Hy-Vee where you can fill it with like whatever pudding or cookies and cream thing they got available. So I'm like, I got the, they had the bigger one. And I thought, well, I'll just give me the big one over there and I'll take the potato salad. So they go through and they fill it up and it's $20. It's 20 bucks. No, what'd you get again? What'd you buy? Potato salad. Yeah. And of course, potatoes, potatoes are heavy. But, but, but I was at the Walmart yesterday, like we were talking about.

Where's the wall potatoes? And there was a sack of potatoes. You could buy a three pound sack of potatoes for $2.97 or the five pound bag for three bucks. Three cents more, five pounds. I couldn't, and there was like stacks of these available and I couldn't, couldn't figure out why they're still there. Anyway, so then like I really, I had a, a moral dilemma as to what to do with this, uh, this potato salad. Cause like, I thought I'm gonna have to ditch it somewhere. I can't pay $20 for this salad. But then I thought like, I did ask for it. Like they did present the price to me. And, uh, if I ditch it somewhere, they're like, I mean, I'm kind of stealing it because the price is already written on it now. Like I didn't see, they didn't say, Hey, it's 20 bucks for the cart. And they just said like X per pound. Yeah. And then they filled it. Like, I don't know. And you weren't necessarily, oh, so they, they fill it for you, right? Cause you, you could do like Zach and eat half of it and then hand it in. Yeah. And then give him a sticker and be like, yeah, I ate a little bit of this. For a couple of bucks. Hey man.

No, it didn't. Woman. It happened to me. There's an argument via chat. I believe there's a private conversation. It happened to me. Is your wife claiming that it was an incident that occurred to her? Yeah. That's like that time you claimed that you created the peanut butter that rolls up like a deodorant when that was my idea. You have a track record of doing this. Explain this. Okay. Now this is how it works, boys. This is the million dollars. I'd like you to shut the radio station down for a minute. I'm going to tell you. Do we need to copyright this real quick? I've tried it actually. We, we, we, we did the poor man's copyright. You take a picture of it, you mail it to yourself. So it's dated, whatever. So you show that you had that idea. Do you not open it though? No, you can't open it.

Otherwise it can't be proven. Oh, look at this. I sent myself something. So it's a, so it's a peanut butter jar that's got the, the deodorant twisty on the bottom. So, you know, as the jar gets empty, you start to roll it up and you just scrape it off the top. You know, no more dirty peanut butter knuckles. I don't have any peanut butter sandwiches you make, but I make a ton of them. Yeah. Me too. Especially when you buy like the value peanut butter. They're like deep jars. Yeah. And you do, you got to stick your whole hand down there and it gets all peanut buttered up. That's funny though. Then you're, then you're licking your, then you're licking your knuckles like an ape. Don't, don't continue to explain my idea like it was yours. No, that's why I love, that's why I love my idea of the deodorant peanut butter. Or that's funny though, because I came up with a somewhat similar peanut butter thing that I'm sure, you know, it would never work, but I thought, wouldn't it be so much easier than having to go through, which is going to make me sound really lazy, but actually having to go through the process of making a sandwich with a knife and a spreading and all that stuff, whether it's, whether it's mayonnaise on the bread or, or peanut butter and jelly, right.

Is just have like a, a stamp. You know how you, you got those stamps that like they, they kind of fold up and get some ink and then they whip back around and stamp your thing. Well, it'd be like, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's like it goes into the jar, get some peanut butter, turns back around and you just kind of stamp your bread and it, and it's, it's on there. Like your pre, pre cut cookie dough. You just take a slab off and, and, and it's a slice. Or like a, or like a cheese slice of a peanut butter. Yeah, there you go. Cause, cause yeah, my, my thinking would, would never work that you can't just, cause you know what I mean? How those stamp things work that, that kind of, it gets the ink and then it comes back down and it keeps going back up for more, right? And, uh, but that wouldn't obviously work with peanut butter. They could do slices, like cheese slices. But you could do, I think that'd be the way to go. Did you see, like, I don't know, probably 10 years ago, they came out with those on Crustables. Yeah. Uh, that they, and I mean, they're outrageous. They're like six bucks for like eight, you know, but pretty small. Yeah. Yeah. They're way small and they're frozen and the ingredients aren't good and they're, uh, they're

less than a loaf of bread. I mean, you can buy the whole operation for $4, you know, and, and they're still, they're still around. Like, that's what kills me is, is laziness. Yes. Who's buying them? Who's doing this? I mean, you can't take the crust off your own bread anymore or you don't want to do it for your kids. I mean, them sandwiches gotta be, I mean, three inch round. I mean, they're barely anything. My wife bought a stamp to stamp them out, you know, so they look exactly the same. You know, I don't even use that. They sell a stamp to get, to get Crust out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, it, so they look just like the Uncrustables, right? So you just, you know, stamps it and it's done. We always get the funky bread though. So it's like, well, I get like, it's like a light bread. It's like only 40 calories, but then they're like wider. I mean, it's just a different, it's, it's not like Wonder Bread or something. It's, it's a, I'd lose half my bread if I used the stamp. It's true.

I'm getting less calories. Is the stamp adjustable? Wait, wait, you mean that? No, it's a single size. Do you have the stamp? Yeah, the pamper, it's one of them cheap gifts from the Pampered Chef. Yeah, that's the one. You know, if you go to the Pampered Chef show, you feel like you gotta buy something. So like, here's. I think that's the biggest scam as, as the, buying the Uncrustables. How much does that, how much does that stamp cost? I think it was like three bucks. Well, yeah. Okay, three bucks. I was going to say like, here's the stuff that the, here's, I've been to, I don't know, maybe three Pampered Chef shows and I feel like I should buy something. And like, like here's, here's what you, you, you. Yeah, yeah, I was there. You host them for women. I'm supportive. No, no. I'm supportive of my wife at the Pampered Chef show. That's true. I support you on that comment because, you know, we enjoy it with the, the wife cooks and gets things. Daniel, you go to the Pampered Chef show?

No. I've also never gone. No, I've never, I've never gone. I just support the idea of kind of going. I, yeah, I, I'm sorry, I got three chauvinists looking at me saying, why, what are you doing in the kitchen, Mary? And I tell you what, I tell you what I'm doing, I'm making food with my, with my, with my sandwich, with your peanut butter knuckles, and my bamboo spoon. Yeah, coming from the same guy that spent 20 bucks on potato salad, I can't imagine you're a whiz in the kitchen. Hey, now, hold on a minute. Now, to confirm, there was a vote on the chat that I am not telling the truth and that is the woman that bought the potato salad, which means that she was the one that suckered 20 bucks for the salad, not this guy. Well, now, since she does most of the cooking, she can make a reasonable decision on whether that 20 bucks was justified or not. You cannot. Well, now, let me ask you a question. Because you wouldn't have made the potato salad anyway. She should know better, though, right? Let me ask you this, uh, uh, uh, harasser of, uh, Pampered Chef, has anyone, has anyone ever sold, say, Christmas around the world products? Uh, I can't think of anyone. Daniel? I was young.

I was young. We bought our first television with that. You mean the one with the hamster on the wheel? Absolutely. What is that? Yeah, I'm a bit of a Christmas product. You know, little ornaments and trinkets. I'm not going to buy any, so keep it concise. But you did it for, like, three months, you know, and then it was done. And we'd make, like, a grand, and we'd go out and buy it. We bought our first TV. We waited a year after marriage before we had a TV, and we bought it. And the next year, we bought, like, curtains, because up to that point, we just walked around naked with windows open. It was kind of awkward. Sure, sure. We liked it. Had a TV, at least. Yeah, it was a little awkward for the neighbors. So it was respectable. Now, would you say… Unlike Pampered Chef. Now, let me ask you this. Would you say your clientele was predominantly male or female on the Christmas around the There was nothing named Pampered.

There might have been a lighted mouse nightlight, but not a pampered lighted mouse. Now, hold on a minute. Let me get this straight. You spent your holiday season hawking pagan Christmas wares, Pastor Dan Hudson. We talked about Jesus. And don't forget the reason for the season. Is this lighted mouse? You can buy this mouse for $19.95. And here's a little Jesus. Here's a pamphlet. It's actually good. Lead with the non-Christian thing. And then say, look, you got to remember the reason for the season. Boom. I got a Jesus lighted mouse. So now you're selling $20 in a lecture. Absolutely. No, you're selling $40. No, you're selling $40. If you want to know the real light of the world, it's Jesus. The mouse is going to break. Because it's cheap and overpriced. Should have got the wall mouse. Thank you. Hopefully not before I leave this doorstep.

They did think it was really cute that there was a guy there, though. I'd be the guy with a little, you know, counting machine and doing their orders, you know. And I had the pen in my ear. Oh, look, you brought your husband. No. Why are you going to do that? Howdy, ma'am. I think we're three for three on shows where Dan has used that high opera lady voice. I think so. Really? Oh. I forgot the first two. So I think you should just embrace it because it ain't going away on its own. You should have worn my rose-colored shirt. I'm surprised you could keep yourself from doing it. I went to a meeting today. The guys were on the exact same shirt. I said, did you get that at JCPenney's? He says, yes, that's a rose color. He's going to tell you, it's not pink. I don't think rose is any better. You went to a meeting today? Yes. Because you wore a rose-colored shirt on Sunday. Exactly.

You wore the same shirt. No, I wasn't wearing the shirt. Oh, okay. Another guy was. I'm with you. Okay, I'm with you. Same underwear, but the shirt. Hey, that's cool. You can't hold the guy against that. I think colored undies are good for at least three days. We talked about this, haven't we? I don't believe that came up in conversation. I forgot that one. I'm just going to say the darker colors can go longer than the lighter ones. That's all I'm going to say. So why aren't there guy little party show things? Sales things? Yeah. Because guys do fishing hooks and whatever. What would you sell the guy thing? I think it's about inviting dudes into your home because they're threatening. You know what I'm saying? We've got to do it somewhere else. I don't know. In the park.

By the flower band. You want to come to the park? That sure sounds, man. I hear if you back in, it says one thing. That's in Kentucky. I lost that one. Don't worry about it. Check the chat. You'll hear it. She's still on. If you back in, it means one thing in the parking lot if you pull in forward. Oh, you know, I heard that there's a park in Des Moines that's got that. I think that's it. It must be a national thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's beside the point. I feel like I'm out of the club. I don't know if that's good or bad. I have no idea. Just be careful how you park after dark. That's all I'm saying. Oh, man. One of my headlights is out. I always park away from the street. Yeah, no, Mike said he's a danger on the street.

Like, his car is like half functioning. I borrowed it. And I tell you what, I'm about tired of driving nervous. I don't have a single vehicle that is not under the threat of police harassment justifiably. Like, either the tags are, like, up to date, but the sticker's not on them, or, like, Mike doesn't have any taillights on his car. One of his headlights is out. Yeah. Yeah. Now, to be fair, my taillights are out because someone crashed my car on the way to this radio station at, say, 5 in the morning and tore the axle out and bent the, as my, what did my father-in-law call it, the steering knuckle. He knows these things. He knew it exactly. Actually, I called it the round piece, but, and broke it. And so, it broke the sensor for the ABS, which apparently pumps the electricity back for the taillights. And so, that one's completely on there. Was there any peanut on the steering knuckle? I looked. Can't prove it. Was there an apple core on the sticker? Here's your problem. This looks like wall peanut butter. You know cars can't function on wall peanut butter. Quality parts. That was, that was actually, that was our first, that was our first show. We were on the way to that. And, and, and I swear to it, Mike and I had the discussion that, that the old Beelzebo was trying to keep us off the air because, like, the order of events was the Friday that we were supposed to go down and kind of do the training for the show.

We were on our way there in this big, giant green van. And, and we get a call from my wife and, and the transmission is out of our, like, main vehicle. Yeah, like, this is our main, this is our only legitimate vehicle. Like, I kind of drive a bit of a, of a clunker. And then we have a big green van that we use to haul stuff back and forth to church and to, to, like, other gigs and stuff. And, and that thing's kind of hit and miss. And so, anyway, this is our main vehicle. Two kids in the car. And then we go down, right? And so we think, oh, okay, fine. We're going to rig this up. We'll take the, we'll, we'll take the green van. We made it down there for the, for the practice thing. And then the next morning, I decided I'm going to take Mike's car, or I have Mike's car at my house. So I'm going to go drive and pick him up. We'll head to the radio station. It, it had just snowed. This was kind of that freak snow in February. And Mike lives at the top of this, this tall hill. And, like, it goes into, it goes down really far. And then he goes right back up again before you get to the main road. And you got to really steamroll it in the snow. Otherwise, you'll get stuck halfway up and you'll never get out of there. You'll be stuck there for days. I've done it.

Yeah. A lot. And so, so, so I go, Mike, what am I supposed to do here? He goes, you steamroll it. I say, should I go around? He goes, no, you steamroll it. So I say, fine, I'm going to steamroll it. So I'm steamrolling it on this icy hill just so we can get back up. And we get, we get halfway up the, the, the apex of the hill. And, and I go, okay, so now when do I start breaking? He goes, okay, start breaking. So I hit the brakes and all of a sudden we do the old skinny. And, and, and we smacked it right into the curb, right? And so I thought, now we're in the real business. We're going to push this thing out. And like the, the wheel has, uh, the wheel kind of wobbled off and it's, it's not going anywhere. So now we're down two vehicles, right? We, we lost my main vehicle on Friday and we lost, uh, Mike's vehicle on the way. And this is like four, quarter to five in the morning. And, uh, uh, both of us pretty out of shape. We're trying to huff it back up this hill and, uh, and we steal his wife's. Wait, wait, you were, you were huffing? Yeah. Like, like, uh, winded for the run.

I had a gold spray can. Ben said, now's not the time. Now we know where that gold spray paint was for. I have an addiction. Yeah. I said, I don't, I don't tell you what to do or put out your personal flaws. Excuse me. We're two cars down. I don't know when the better time is to huff this gold spray paint that they carded me for at the Walmart. Give me, give me wall paint. Um, so, so anyway, so then we go and we steal his wife's car who was like nine months pregnant. And this seems dangerous to like make off with a vehicle. But it was five in the morning. You know, that babies only come during the day, you know, no biggie, but like seven thirty eight, maybe. And, uh, and so like the, the, the thought was, was like, and this kind of brought up the discussion is like, uh, how much, how much influence could, could, let's say an interning Satan have in your life. Right. Because we thought, well, maybe God's trying to tell us something. Then we thought, well, God would know that we just go get under the vehicle. Yeah. Like that we would not be like two vehicles down is nothing. I got, I think between us, we got like six vehicles, two of which are decent.

The other four, we just keep picking up in random spots, but yeah, it is, it is like Satan noted to throw kind of lame attempts at you. Well, see that's because it could, it could have stopped you. I mean, it more, most likely it wouldn't given the, you know, you guys kind of needed to be there or whatever. So, so that's the question, right? Because, because I mean, my interpretation of the way that the devil works and maybe, maybe this is a good thing for, for Daniel answer is my interpretation is he is not all knowing like the Lord. Correct. And so he might throw lame attempts, like breaking two of our vehicles in a day, you know, at which, I mean, the Lord knows that's not going to stop us from doing nothing. Now, does Satan doesn't know that? I mean, does he, does he not know that? Well, I think you, you know, like look at the story of Job. I think he has limitations. I mean, he can do, he has the power to do whatever he wants. He's not all powerful like God is, but I think when you look at the story of Job, he's like, I want to, I want to take Job down. And God says, okay, you can go this far, you know? So he went that far and he goes, okay, now you can go this far, you know? Okay. You've killed his kids. You, you've destroyed his, his income. And okay, why don't you go ahead and give him boils now?

Right. Because, you know, it's like that. I mean, it's not like Satan has all authority to do whatever the heck he wants. Well, see, and like, I think I, I, you know, my line is like, I don't ever, you know, want to discount the devil as being an idiot because he's not, he's crafty, you know? I mean, he's slick, you know, and he'll, he'll appear in, in, you know, shadows of goodness, you know, he'll show up like it's the best thing you've ever seen, you know, and it is godly and it ain't, you know? And so it's sneaky. But then again, you know, like, and we always wondered this, you know, is exactly how far, you know, he can creep into, into your, into your life, you know, like, you know, and, and the car was just a small, a small example, you know, exactly, you know, if he can, can he cause bad things just to see how you will react? The Lord already knows how you're going to react. But I mean, you know, Satan, I mean, just, just throws things at you to see what's going to go, you know? But I think, and Dan, you can, you can speak to, to this, whether this is accurate or not necessarily, but, you know, I would think that, that he definitely tries to test you. So he may not necessarily always be going a hundred percent or whatever, right? He, he may think like, well, let's, let's throw this at him. And yeah, yeah. Because for some people, two broken cars may have said, that's it, you know, I can't make it. And sometimes life just happens. You know, you can't, you gotta be careful not to over-spiritualize things, but then at

the same time, some things happen that are spiritual. See, and you know what? We don't know. You know, and I was actually just talking to my wife about that yesterday, like, like, cause I have a real problem with that. You know, like I tend to over-spiritualize things that happen to me, you know? So, and you know, that may be good to a certain point and may be a detriment to a certain point, you know, but like, I, I see God in almost everything that I do, you know, and, and some of it's too much. And actually that will cause, it caused me to step away from God for, I don't know, five years when I was younger. Like I was, I think I was right on my bike when I was 16 up to work and I was going to work and the traffic was bad. And I was like, Lord, will you please just get this traffic so I can get to work, you know? And I thought, I thought you cannot blame the Lord for this traffic. What's wrong with you? You've taken it too far. And, but it caused a huge separation. Like I, I walked, I walked away from him. But anyway, like, like, you know, what, what I, what I wonder is, is, is what we were talking about with my wife was, was the whole purpose of, of reading the Bible, you know, it's not necessarily for me to jump in one day and get a motivational speaking tool for me for that day, you know, or for me to feel guilty that day and what the Lord doesn't want me to do, you know, it's to understand the character of God and how he, you know, who you're dealing with, you know, who your creator is, you know?

And, and the more, I thought, you know, the more that I know about him, the easier it'll be for me to determine what is of him and what is not, you know? And so, and, and especially in the Old Testament, you know, I mean, Jesus' stuff in the New Testament usually can speak pretty directly to you. You know, it's easy to take, you know, Paul, Paul's stuff in the New Testament, you know, easy to take, easy for, to, for, uh, applicable to you. You know, the Old Testament stuff I tend to use to shed off and be like, you know, this is stuff that happened until, you know, we no longer, you know, judge our strength by our length of hair, you know, and, and, you know, and burn animals, you know? So I'm like, you know, this stuff doesn't really apply to me, but it does in the fact that it reveals the character of God to me and exactly who I, who I'm dealing with, you know? Because I mean, it's unfair for, for me to say, you know, Lord, Lord, will you do this for me? You know, understand me, understand my plight, and really I'm talking to a faithless nobody that I don't know, you know? And so, and I don't know, for some reason that, that revelation just kind of, kind of came to me about the whole purpose of, of, of reading, uh, you know, my Bible just a little bit more than I have been, you know, to, to, to understand who I'm asking things of and why I get the things that I asked for or why I don't get the things that I asked for, you know? Well, that's, that's interesting though that they, you know, you talk about, uh, seeing God in, in things and, and whether it's, you know, too much or, or the right amount, but, um, like I've got an example recently that I really think God has, has, has blessed me in a way for something that, that, like you, you kind of, uh, I've connected things that, that someone

could say, that's ridiculous. I, I, I, I think it's, it's totally, uh, a connection though to God is that, um, I've, I don't have an iPod, okay? And like, not a big deal, right? It's consumer item, I mean, but, but out of all the, the things that I've been doing, things that if you ask me, you know, what do you want? I don't really want that many things or if it's my birthday, you know, I don't really have that much, but I want an iPod. Now an iPod tends to be a little more costly than the average price of a, well, no, the average price of a, of a gift or something, right? And, uh, so, uh, you know, birthdays or Christmas have gone by and I see other people getting iPods and I may not get an iPod, but yeah, but, but I, I almost put it and it went on long enough where, where I almost started to, to put it too much, right? Like, and, and it was, I always felt like it was half joking and, and I, and I think it was like, but I'd say, are we'd get maybe an extra hundred bucks and it definitely was not a hundred bucks that needs to go towards half payment of an iPod. But, but I would say, oh sweet, that's a hundred bucks. Go, go to get my iPod knowing that that's not going to happen. You know, and I'm being one, yeah, we need diapers. Yeah, right, right. You know, reasonable things and, um, but, but so anyways, um, recently, uh, in, at some point in March, we, we got a, a very, uh, large size tax refund, way more than we were expecting. So, you know, good stuff and, and, uh, uh, you know, 150, 200 bucks for, for the iPod. And, you know, it's funny that it really starts to add up because you need all the accessories

and all this stuff. But anyways, that was, that was, uh, definitely a reasonable amount to spend considering the, the quite large tax refund we got. And, and we were planning and we've got debt, we're planning to pay off and we've got to put some in savings and, you know, there's lots of stuff you got to do with it. But we were actually at the store and, and I, and we were at the mall and I was kind of walking by and I always love to go in there and just look at the stuff and like, wish I had it or whatever. Right. And, but, uh, and, and, and I was, this time I wasn't really going in and my wife says, let's go in. We're, and she never says, let's go in. She, she's always, no, we don't need it. You know? And, and she says, she says, we go over and look at him and I'm like, okay. And, and she goes, well, which, which color do you like? And I said, well, that one. And, and she goes and grabs it, grabs this guy from the store and says, we want a red one. And, and, and I'm, and immediately, and this is like, I mean, I mean, in a, in a silly way, this is like the day I've been waiting for as far as the thing I want. Right. And, and I started feeling real anxious about it. It was really just uneasy. I just felt like, and I don't, I don't think it was like that I didn't deserve it, but, but

I just felt real uneasy about it. And the guy went back and had it and he had it in his hands and he's ready. He's ready to go. He's, we're looking at other accessories and which ones do you want and all. And, and we're going to, you know, getting ready to check out. And, and I had, I hadn't put it back. Wow. And, and, and, uh, and, uh, you know, while that doesn't sound like a big deal, you know, I mean, I always get one some other day, but, and I didn't think anything of it. I just, and I told her, I said, you know, I just, and she was like, no, we got to get it. We, you deserve it. And, and, uh, but I just said, you know, I really just don't, I really just don't feel right about it. I don't know why, you know, whatever it is. And so we, we went on and I said, I can, and I kind of wasn't prepared to get it. Not that you need to like be prepared, but like, it was kind of a random thing that she's like, let's go in there. And, and I'm like, well, we can come back this weekend and maybe I'll think about it and we'll go get it, you know? And, and, uh, and I, I didn't get it, but I realized that ever since then, I, I feel like God has, has blessed in, in so many different ways are our finances and, and so many things that happened to us since then. Uh, I got a, I got a job promotion. Uh, I got a very unrelated things, like things that, that somebody could look at and say, well,

that has nothing to do with God. That was just, that was timing and you know, that's just the way it was. And we, I got a, a random letter from my student loans saying, saying, uh, you don't have to pay us anymore because I actually started taking classes again online. And so they said, now you're taking classes again, you don't have to pay us. And like, and again, that's, that's individually, that's something that, that happened or, you know, that's the way it works is, but, but I wasn't expecting that. And I mean, when do you get a letter that says stop paying us, you know? And I got a random refund from, from quest of a hundred bucks because we had to put a deposit down a year ago and then that random, like, and it was all in the same timing. And, and again, all the stuff that could be explained separately, but I started thinking about it. I'm like, you know, I really felt like I kind of gave that, I was putting too much weight into, into getting that kind of possession. And I feel like I kind of gave it back and I feel like I've been blessed for that, you know? And, and, and I don't know. So, I mean, I, I definitely, I see God in that and, and, and I'm, I feel, you know, proud of the decision and, and you also realize kind of a lesson that material thing, you know, you, you know, it's not important, but you kind of start making a big deal out of it. But, but, you know, I feel so blessed in, in, in other ways. And I really can, I really kind of feel like it ties back to, to that. I, you know, it's one of those things like, you know, in scripture, it'll, it almost will kind of say, you know, I put in my own words, it's like, you can have the, this earthly iPod or you could just give it back and get tens of thousands of iPods in heaven.

You know what I mean? Like there's no iPods in heaven, but. I could see that being actually true because I have an iPod and I'm dead broke. I see a connection now. Well, how often do we say no to ourselves on anything in our society? I mean, I mean, most of us, we're just not raised saying no. That's why you have credit cards and why you have instant loans and yada, yada, yada, especially some, something that you invested a lot of mental, uh, want towards or whatever it is, uh, you know, and I don't think, I don't feel like personally a level of, of an unhealthy want, but I mean, maybe borderline, you know, where, where it's just not a big deal, but you know, and when I started actually thinking when I was spending, you know, about to spend the $200, what is like, like I always, uh, thought so much about how much that I'm going to do with this iPod, how great it was going to be. And then when I was about to spend the money, I started thinking about what do I need this for? You know, what is, how is my life really any different for having this? It's amazing. I know. I know. You do it. I'm just kidding. It's not, it's not life changing. No, but I mean, it's definitely. I mean, I wish I could say no. We, uh, my, my youngest daughter, Shanna and I have been, she's been wanting an aquarium

like for ever, you know, we're like, Oh, that's stupid. You know, I don't know, I spend the money, blah, blah, blah. Well, so one day I said, okay, I'm going to teach her a lesson. It'll be great. And she went online. She found the perfect aquarium she wanted. She said, find a picture, you know, we'll copy, we'll paste it, we'll make a chart. We put a grid over it. And every, and every time you save $5, you lock in one of those little grids. And you know, she found how much everything was going to cost. And she had it on the refrigerator and she's starting to save money. She had, she has like 20 bucks saved up. She's, I mean, she's excited. She's grabbing cans on the sidewalk, anything she can do to scrape up money, to save up cash for this aquarium. And we come home from, from vacation and I'm like in a good mood or whatever. And I'm like, well, come on, let's go buy that aquarium. You know, I was like, so I go and I buy the aquarium, which now she doesn't, now she walks by the cans, like whatever. I mean, it's like, Oh yeah, that didn't work. That was a stupid lesson. Forget the lesson I taught you there. It's the gratification is not a good idea. Actually, I think that's where, that's where it really helps to, uh, you know, uh, depending on who your marriage partner is, you know, uh, to have somebody almost the exact opposite

of you. Cause I have no regard for money, like none at all. I'm terrible. I mean, I was, especially if it's something that she wants, you know, like I can usually restrain myself to some point. I like to spend my money on stupid stuff like gas station food, you know, but, but, you know, if she's like, well, I really want this. I'm like, yeah, peanut butter with a non non coincidental jar. But, uh, you know, they do things, uh, you know, if she's like, well, I really want this. I'm like, buy it. I don't care. I don't care. Do whatever you want. You know, I, I don't care at all. I don't look at the bank account for any reason, you know? And, uh, and, uh, man, every day I thank the Lord for her cause she does. I mean, she'll see, she's like, I saw you went to McDonald's today. You didn't get a value meal cause less than five bucks. So what did you buy? You know, were you with your buddy pants? Why don't you get pants to pay for it? I'm like, she doesn't say that. I just do that in there, but pants, you should pay pants, pants, does, pants, does pay Yeah, pants does pay quite often.

And you take advantage of that? Yeah, pants is the sugar daddy of the green van. Call me sometime when you guys are out. Yeah, we'll come pick you up. As long as you're in the van, you're under pants's helpful wing. I never get in the van. I know. Hey, you guys let me know you want to be picked up in the van. Do you park forward or backwards though? I don't know. It doesn't matter in a van. All right, well, we are going to take a quick break here on Live from the Path. Not a moment too soon. Yeah, we'll wipe off the sweat from the old brow. You're listening on WorldwideLocalLive.com or Des MoinesAmplified.com. This is Live from the Path. The dream is fading now, I'm staring at the door. I know it's over because my feet have hit the cold floor. Check my reflection, I ain't feeling what I see. It's no mystery. Whatever happened to a passion I could live for? What became of the flame that made me feel more? And when did I forget that I was made to love you? The dream's alive with my eyes open wide. Back in the ring, you got me swinging for the grand prize.

I feel the haters spitting vapors on my dreams. But I still believe. I'm reaching out, reaching up, reaching over. I feel the brains cover me, called Jehovah. This is all, this is all that was you washing my feet. And this is all, this is all I can say right now. Oh, I know it's not much. This is all I can give. Yeah, that's my everything. This is all I can say right now. I know it's not much. This is all I can give. Yeah, that's my everything. And this is all I can say right now. Well, this is all. And that's my everything. It's my everything. Welcome back. You are back with Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. You can also see our past shows at LiveFromThePath.org. Also, just a reminder in case you're new to the show, we are all from Pathway Church in Johnson. We meet Sundays at 10 a.m. at Wallace Elementary. We would love to see you at the service. So please, please feel free to stop out.

Also, if you have not joined the chat, please do so. Lots of good stuff going on, you know, debates on spaghetti sauce, things of that nature. Stealing Easter candy from your children. That seems to be going on in the chat. I'm for that. I'm for that. They don't eat it. That's because you stole it. The children, they don't eat it. No, they don't need it. Oh, I thought you said they don't eat it. Sorry. Does that help? It's very adult, Daniel. I've never been accused of that. Thank you. Not in that shirt you have. It looks like he's a sheriff, but all over. Actually, I think it looks like, and you can't see the shapes very well, but you look like a drug dealer. Not like a dealer, but a kingpin. Like, you're not one of the street-level guys. You're like a Cortez that sits up in the… Who can get by with wearing a shirt like that?

Yeah. Like, I mean, you need to take a couple buttons down. A Cortez is not a distinction of a drug dealer. That's what I assume his name is. Cortez. Well, I think that's ridiculous. Why? I saw Christmas around the world. What would his name be? Well, I don't imagine it to be Cortez. Okay, so if you knew a guy that ran drugs, but he's the kingpin of it, and he goes by a single name, what would that name be? Starin. Starin? S-T-A-R-I-N. Starin. That's the stupidest freaking thing I've ever heard. John Starin. No. No. Oh, yeah. John Starin, the drug kingpin? Listen here. Now, it's proven that… And I've heard this from multiple sources, that they have a list of drug dealers that

they come across. Who does? They do. They. We'll say the authorities. The powers. We'll say the authorities. And they usually end up saying, the top ten or so, you can't touch, because they're just regular, community, they're leaders in the community, they're big businessmen, you can't bring these guys down. And people like John Starin would be at the top of the list, not Suave Cortez, like you're saying. I'd say Max. Max. Max would be. Maybe from the 80s. Do they still name their kids Max? Yeah, I don't think so. Who? Well, I suppose if he was born in the 80s, it'd be about time to be a drug pusher. How old would that make him? 30? 20? He'd be 30. He'd be in the 20s.

Late 20s. Yeah, this is 2010, isn't it? Specifically, he'd be 30. He'd be 30. If you're going to be a drug man, you better get up and running by 30. You start doing that in your teens, don't you? Well, you've got to get at ground level somewhere. I suppose you need a higher level person supplying to you. I don't think I'd do that. I'd start right at the top. I wouldn't want to be doing the… I don't think you can do that. Is there a top? I don't think they interview for Kingpin. There's a top. Cortez is at the top. You know who's not at the top? John Starin is not at the top. John Starin is the pharmacist that hides some of it in bottles at night so that you don't get caught with it. And then he gives you a piece of paper where he looks at it like it's a prescription and then he hands it over. That's the guy. Dr. Pharmacist John Starin. I'm going to find John Starin. He's going to come down and show you a thing or two. Can you Google John Starin?

Yeah, see if he's on Facebook. I would, but I don't appear to have internet right here. I feel pretty left out of everything. Mike, what's the… I'm sorry, how do you spell it again? I believe that was S-T-A-R-I-N. No apostrophe. I don't know what… What about on the chat? What do they say? Kingpin. See, you have to be careful referring to the chat because if they don't find what we're saying entertaining, they don't comment on it. They entertain themselves. And I will say that the last three entries on the… four entries on the… five entries on the chat are people telling each other goodnight. Maybe it's my shirt. Maybe it is your shirt. That shirt's pretty sweet. So they're coming on our chat talking to each other rather than commenting on the show? We're a conduit for friendship. Yeah. We're not entertaining. It's all about relationships. There's Facebook chat. There's MSN Messenger. Don't send them away.

It's all we got. Come back, wives. We love you. Wait. Okay. Now, hold on a minute. Here's another. John H. Starrin's protest. Hoo-ah! Oh! No. I can't pay for the… I can give you the opening of this article. This is from October 14th, 1884. Oh, yeah. He's probably not around. Yeah. Okay. October 14th, 1884. John H. Starrin's protest. He said born in the 80s. The contest over the Staten Island and Bay Ridge Ferry franchise. A suit has begun in the Supreme Court by John H. Starrin against the mayor, controller, city chamberlain, and aldermen. Something gorgeous.

Hugh Grant. Hugh J. Grant. As commissioner of the sinking fund and the Staten Island Rapid Transit Railroad Company. So, John Starrin is suited. This guy does… Listen to these things this guy's got. He is the mayor, the controller, the city chamberlain, aldermen, and commissioner of the sinking fund. He's all of the above. He's a busy man. And John H. Starrin is protesting with an inappropriate semicolon in this article. Sounded like he had good reason. That's possible. What do you know of him? I don't know. There's no more of the article. Hugh Grant has had rough times in the news anyway. And so, John Starrin is obviously on the right side of justice on this one. That might… Well, wait. Now, here's another guy. Maybe this is the same guy. Uh, hold on. Does it say anything about opiates? No.

Okay. Here he is. Here's his Wikipedia. Let's see what he's up to. Oh, he's a looker. Hold on. I want to see him, man. I do miss that screen. I tell you what. Uh… I got 30 bucks. This is if we buy a new one. He was interned in the Starrin mausoleum. I think everyone sees where your 30 bucks goes. Fultonville Cemetery. Some kind of Aztec medallion shirt. We need some business cards. Good night, she said. Okay, they're gone. We can talk freely. Man. No, nothing else. And, uh, nope. Nope. That's about it with him.

That's too bad. He had a goatee. He wore a nice tie. He looks all right. He looks like a nice guy. Of course he does. I really feel at Handicap that I can't see this gentleman. Yeah, yeah. I'm feeling… He could be ugly as the dickens. Half horse face. I don't know. I can't see him. Do you have a movie star look-alike for this gentleman? For John Sterling? Yeah, he looks like F. Murray Abraham. A well-known celebrity. I don't know who that is. F. Murray Abraham was in… He's always a real stuffy guy. He was in… Do you remember the movie Finding Forrester? Yeah.

I've heard of it. He was… It was about a guy… The basketball one? Yeah, like an inner city dude who comes in cahoots with Forrester, who was a… A writer. A famous writer who only wrote, like, one really popular book. So anyway, F. Murray Abraham is the teacher, the real snoot that, like, talks very highly of literary guys, but is like a kind of a… Kind of like a Cass. He doesn't… What do you mean a Cass? A Cass. Is that an actual word? No. Indeed. No, it's the first thing that came to mind. I believe you already used another word and ended up with Cass. I was going to say Cad, but that's not right. He's not a Cad. He's not like a ladies' man. Is that what the definition of Cad is? But I'd already committed… It's not a good example, either, of what he's been in.

What do you mean? We don't know. We don't remember that. It's kind of murky waters, right? Well, if… Now, hold on. Who are you to tell me whether it's a good example or not, if you don't even know who I'm talking about? True. What's another example of what Jay… Whatever… No, I'm saying it's… That's the… No, hold on. The movie you chose was just as… Ambiguous? Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, no. Fighting Forrester, it was… That movie was boring. And I saw that, like, ten years ago. It had Sean Connery in it. Now, I'm not saying it was good or not. It was more notable than him. I don't think…

Okay, I agree with that. I remember the title, but other than that, it's… I mean, that was, like, ten years ago. And it wasn't… I don't think it was a popular movie. That is as recent as he's on. Maybe you shouldn't use him as a reference anymore. You asked me what the man looked like. He's the closest guy I got. That's true. It's not your fault that's what he looks like. I mean, we can't change the fact he looks like this Abrams character who's obviously some jilted B-movie star and can't seem to get a part in any type of role. He's a drug dealer. What do you expect? Some kind of boondoggler from the backside of the South. The whole acting thing is just a… He's a dirty cat. He's a dirty cat. I know that of him. I can tell by his look and the way he shaves his eyebrows. I don't… Do you shave your eyebrows? I've tried it once. I clip them.

Daniel, do you really clip them? When you reach approximately 29, you'll get wild hairs growing from all kinds of places. Does your left eyebrow and right eyebrow try to become friends and meet in the middle? All of a sudden, you'll be like, whoo! You're like, what? Whoa! You know? Hey. Now, this is the next time to bring it up because I believe the wife's gone away. But I found an ear hair that I ain't kidding you. I mean, it had to have been three inches long. I mean, it was fighting the other ear hairs. It just started popping out. I was out. It was just something crazy. And you're like, you're fighting one day and you wake up the next day. It's like, what is that? I mean, I tried to pull it out and it tugged part of my earlobe with it. Like, it wasn't giving up. I thought I was going to have to cut it in half to get it out. But I pulled it. When I turned 40, my brother, as a joke, got me little nose clipper things. Like, oh, you're old. And I'm like, I use those puppies. Like, thank you.

I need those. As a matter of fact, it's starting to get kind of old now. Do they have an app for that on the iPhone? Oh, I don't know. For Apple often to shave your nose hair? I don't know. Every once in a while, you're like, dude, what's that? They have an app for everything, right? I mean, they're natural. You know what they have an app for on the iPod is the geocaching. You ever heard of that? Yeah, yeah. Where they like these. I'm going to sully it because I can't help but say my opinion already. But I was going to use the phrase these goons. In a positive way. Yeah, these goons take things, hide them, and then report the GPS coordinates on the net. And then goon number two looks it up and goes, hey, goon number one, play something with this and this and this. I'm going to go check it out, you know? And so, and there's like people take vacations doing this. Yeah, that sounds like a good one for money. Well, then you leave something behind for the next dude. It sounds like littering. That's what it sounds like. An apple core.

I got a little stamp here. What's stopping me from taking my pop bottle, chucking it out the window by the Anderson, Erickson, Dairy and going, I just dropped a pop bottle. You know, check something out at these coordinates and then people are picking up my garbage on the road. Because the GPS people will find you. That's true. You advertise. And they'll say the dude going under the handle, pop bottle mic, is no longer allowed to participate. We take this game seriously. We know where you live. You know what else you can do with the iPhone is, I just read this today, you can take a picture of your tax return, like if you do it in writing, and then you take a picture of it and send it via email, and then whoever they is on the other end of that file it for you. They actually put it in and then they send it back to you. Which is still, it's kind of funny because it defeats the purpose of, I mean, you still got to fill it out. Are you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought, I was like, that is crazy. You can just take a picture and then somebody looks at it and then back to you. What kind of technologically advanced dude owns an iPhone with that app and is still handwriting his tax return? My grandma electronically submits her tax return. Yeah. What a weird app. If you could just maybe take a picture of your W-2s or something, W-2s, right, or 1099s and all that stuff, that would be cool. And then they just do it for you and then they said they send it back to you, you know, formatted it and you approve it or whatever it is. I feel a little creepy sending private information like that to a stranger. I agree.

Here's my world. Here's my life. Here's my social security number and my children. That is a good point. But you know people are doing it. Here's some Easter candy. Behave yourself. You know what they're doing, it sounds like they're going to come out, I think it was by the end of the year. There's a couple banks, like I do internet banking, like we do our banking through a bank that's pretty much solely internet. You have to have a linking account. But like one of the big hassles with that is you have to go cash your check locally and then move it over to the internet bank and it takes like three days. Well, one of the things that they're doing to fix that is they're going to make it so you can just take a picture of the check, like scan it in or take a picture of it or whatever and then just load it and then they'll clear it. They'll just clear the check and you rip it up and you're done, right? And think of it from a, like, it's not really insecure because you have to, first of all, I don't know who's trying to defraud you by depositing money in your account. Right, that's a good thing. Seems relatively unlikely. Unless you're trying to defraud somebody else. Well, right, but like what they'll do is, like, they'll clear the check. You know how they electronically clear your checks. They'll run it to that machine and check and verify it. It's a legitimate check and they can do that here. They'll do the same thing. They're obviously not going to put money into your account until they've verified it. And you have to go through your sign-in process to do it, right? So you've already cleared, like, the big security portion to even having gotten in there so they know it's you and then the check is made out to you.

And, you know, and then they can check the numbers and just type in the routing number and just send it through. And it gets in there, like, way faster than having to deposit it and then move it over. You know, speaking on banks, you know, it was kind of weird. Like, I went in this week because I need a new debit card. I always ruin mine before it's time and I always have to order a new one. So I go rocking in there and I order a new one. And the last time I had to do it, they charged me $10 to get me a new debit card. And then they wanted to take my old one right there. And then when my new one showed up, I could use it. And I said, what am I supposed to use in the meantime? You know, and they're like, I don't know. But we want to keep it for security purposes. And I said, you can't have it. And it ended up being a huge discussion. Like, let me walk out of that bank without taking my card. And I left. I took it with me, you know. But then I started thinking, you know, if I'm using your card so much that I'm ruining it prior to its expiration date, I don't know why you wouldn't just give me another one. You know, I mean, I'm using it left and right. You know what? I'm wearing the strip out. This thing is getting used. You're getting transaction fees every time I touch it, you know. Did you tell them that?

Yeah. I'm not allowed to talk to these people anymore. I actually had to go do it at a branch of the bank because they were so upset at me at the first branch that they wouldn't have that conversation with me again. Nice. I was mad because of the $10, not because of the $10, but because they wanted to take my debit card. You know, I said, I'll cut it up when I get the new one, you know. And I don't know. It just amazes me, you know, for the $10, you know, I was like, can't you just give me one? You know, I mean, just give me one. I see a $300 chair over here, you know, and nice granite floors. Can you just give me a debit card, please? You're going to be a crotchety old man. You're going to be in a nursing home. With long-eared hairs. Exactly. I actually went to – I was delivering candy this week, and I went to a college, and I'm only – I'm 27 years old, you know. I get there, and I lock the doors, and I'm like, these kids are going to steal my candy. I'm going to take my two bags full of candy to go fill stuff up, and one of them is going to, like, push me and, like, give us some free candy, dude. I honestly think, like, these dudes are going to start ruffing me up, and I'm like – I'm out of college. You know, I didn't go to college, but, like, I've graduated. If I were to go, I'm, like, four years out. I'm not 70. You know, I'm not those whippersnappers, you know. I'm in the age group, and I think these kids are going to start shoulder-checking me, knock me down to steal my candy.

Give us the candy, you dirty cash. And I thought, man, what a social retard I am. I am so afraid of people that I think these kids who don't care anything about me, they look at me like, it's the guy filling the candy, whatever, you know. And I'm so just socially dumb that I think these kids are going to start causing me problems of stealing my candy. I'm working up messages in my head what I'm going to say as soon as something rocks in with a skateboard and gold spray paint. He's like, give me some candy. I'm like, ha-ha, no. If I gave you candy, I'd have to give everybody candy. That's sassy, Mike. I know. And I thought, should I throw a punch? He's like, no, you don't have to throw a punch. These kids will take you down. This whole thing is played out in my head before I walk out the car door. That's nice. Would you like to bring my .357 Magnum revolver with you? I might actually need that type of confidence. I am so scared to death of social interaction that that's the kind of things that I think of. You wouldn't be more afraid that you'd shoot yourself in the foot with it? Well, I could very well. Would it give you confidence? I'd rather go with it. Have you ever shot before? No, I'd camp. Oh, it's fun.

Mike, this isn't going well for you. The people on the chat are, you've basically given away how to rob you of candy. That is true. So, here are the two guesses. The chat believes the following two items will take you out. One, a cane to the legs. Let's see. Who's that? And the second one, a pretty stern scowl. Give me some candy. The mystery man 777 says, all you have to do is just give him a scowl and you'll pony it up. It's quite possible. I'm not going to say, if you're wearing a stocking hat and have a t-shirt of a band that I don't know, I would say, look, I'll give you a little bit, but don't tell anybody. I don't want to be harassed anymore about my candy delivery. We can get you a concealment permit. Based on what? Based on you go shooting. I got one. That's all it takes to get a concealment permit is I shoot? I'm a social retard. Please give me something to carry a gun. You've got to make sure you have a clean record. You've got to make sure you can fulfill the testing. He's being serious.

What kind of testing? Well, there's a written test. Plus, there's also a shooting test. Is there a test for illicit materials? You have to carry candy in an obstacle course. Look, there it is. There you go. They're frowning. It's too hard in the chat. So you'll give up any. You don't get a gumball. I'm going to shoot you in the head. Yeah, you've got to be careful with it. You learn to be responsible with it, though. That's the beauty of it. I've said too much. I thought by exposing my weak underbelly weakness, people would grasp it and come to my aid, and apparently they're just going to take advantage of my idiocy. I believe you've dropped a few notches. This is invalid when using or under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs. Yeah. You think people do that? So what about it? It doesn't say spray paint.

Well, I can't carry my gun with me, so I guess I don't. You think they go out hitting the bars and go, Oh, my king is my gun. I'm totally sure there's a guy who, like, black his card before he goes into certain activities. Can I? Hold on. Can I? I'm drunk. There's nothing on this card that says I shouldn't get in, but I better check and make sure I can't haul my handgun around. Exactly. Well, how about the dude, the football player, that took a loaded gun on an airplane? Like, was that last week? Uh-uh. I don't know. It was this week. It was April 1st or something, wasn't it? It was just on the news. Some dude, a loaded handgun. Wow. And he was like, Oh, you know how I was supposed to do that? Oh, shoot.

Well, well. Oh, that's actually kind of a good segue to this. I've got a story that I pulled offline. It's from the local, you know, TV station here, but I got it on their website. It says, Police say, report, insurance agent pulls gun on client. Did he have a permit for that? I thought this was hilarious. So it says, Police said an insurance agent forced his client into a car at gunpoint and demanded that he drive him to the bank to withdraw money. Let's see. But the officers didn't have to look far for the suspect. Independent insurance agent, I'll leave his name out, but it's already out there. Cortez. Yeah. John Steren left behind a business card that had his photo on it. Nice. I mean, this is just ridiculous. This is in Des Moines? Yeah. This was in, this was in, no, Essex.

Police in Essex. You can never take the hostage with you. I mean, and it said, and it said, let's see, he, the police chief said, wrote, had been, had been to. Is this guy your dad? Why are you protecting him? What's his deal? I guess it doesn't matter, does it? No, what's his deal? It's insurance agent Mark Rowe. He's obviously down the, down the road already. How many people live in Essex? Yeah, I have no idea. I mean, do you need a photo card in Essex? Like, oh, you're my neighbor, Mr. Steren. That's right. That's got to be you, right? I'm the insurance guy. My kids mow your yard, right? It says, it says, let's see, he'd been to the guy's house before to sell him a policy. This time, police said, Rose brandished a gun and forced the van to drive him to Shenandoah, about six miles away. Rose stayed in the car while the other guy went inside the bank and alerted the employees he was being kidnapped.

So he said, go on in there and get me some money. Like, he was just going to… Seth tells me he wasn't a good insurance agent either. Yeah, yeah. I think he's on rough times. That's, yeah. Sometimes people do goofy things when they're just really stressed. This is ridiculous. It said, the police called, but Rose had taken off, hitching a ride back to his own vehicle. The bank president said the pair first pulled up to the drive-thru outside of town. The teller noticed it was an unusual transaction request and advised the two to go to the downtown bank. I love it. And then I think police were waiting for that. He hitched a ride with… I know. So in his extortion, he's used two people as a taxi? Like, he basically flagged down a couple witnesses. Hey, remember me. I'm up to something nefarious. Here's my card. Yeah, here's my card. I need an insurance policy. You might want to think about it because this may happen again. That's Cortez.

Cortez Insurance. So do you want to buy some insurance tomorrow? By the way, I'm definitely not a drug runner of any kind. So keep that in mind. Wow. Yeah, that's just ridiculous. I mean, you know, there's so many better ways that he could have done that if he really was going to go that far and do that. I mean, I don't know. He just thought maybe if I'm in a different car, no one will recognize me. They went to the drive-thru. I mean, well, that's actually better than sending the guy in on his own. Like, remember, I have a gun out here. Go get me some cash. So don't be foolish inside. As he walks in the front door, walks right out the back. And then goes somewhere else. Right. He's like, man, this bank is terrible service. I've been waiting in this car for a half hour. The police are here. What's wrong with these people? Wow. How embarrassing. That's good.

That's good. Is this the dude? That's the dude. Yeah. Can we show it? Yeah. I already did one. Yeah. What does he look like? Give him a celebrity comparison. I don't know. He looks like that guy in Fast and Furious, the snake guy. What's the matter with you? You know what I'm talking about? No, that's not the one. What's the movie where they have to steal a bunch of cars? That's Gone in 60 Seconds. Gone in 60 Seconds. Like, the guy that riles and drives the Hummer. Yeah. Oh. What else does he say? He doesn't say very much. He doesn't say anything. Yeah.

He's like an undertaker. He's not an undertaker. He does the autopsy. He looks pretty tough here, though. I think he looks like that. You very rarely see someone who's just been arrested with a big old grin on their face unless they're high on something. I'm having a good day. Yeah. Although the funny part is, like, they're not just frowning. They're, like, putting on the meanest face they own. Like, they think the police are like, boy, we shouldn't really mess with this guy. We shouldn't have picked him up. Let's put him back out of the streets. I got the police right where I want him. Even though they already have me in the building standing in front of this thing to take my shirt to put me behind a cell, now is the time to intimidate. You'll be sorry you took me in. You know, sometimes I think about that, too. Like, you see some of the dudes that the police take down. Sometimes I'm glad I'm just not a police officer. I mean, I got a ton of respect for these guys. You know, they call in. They're like, we have domestic violence. You're like, oh, a guy beating on a lady.

I'm going to show up and see what's what. This guy is, like, seven foot tall, 400 pounds, and been rocking roids for the last three years and high on meth. You know, and I'm the guy that's got a knock on the door and be like, you need to tone this down. Sir. Excuse me, sir. I don't care how many guys I got. I don't want to be involved. I want to be the small guy in the back that grabs his boot. Okay. I'm at the hospital. I don't know. A few weeks ago. It doesn't matter. And it was late at night, and a police officer walks down the hall. You know, strange things happen at night. And, okay, I'm 6'4", 200 and a lot. 70. Give or take. And this gal who's probably 5'1", walks by at least 80 pounds with a police officer. You know, and I'm going, really? Okay, let's just say I'm in a bad mood. You know, let's just say, you know, really? I mean, honestly?

I mean, she didn't know you were a pastor? Did she pull me down? Well, no, I mean, we just saw her, and the thought went through my mind, like, whoa, what if I was here, and I was looking for narcotics or something? Right, kicking holes in walls, causing a big sting. Yeah, let's say she pulled me over, and I said, I do not have a tail light out. Oh, she was the police officer. I thought you said a woman came with the police officer. Oh, no, sorry. I got you. No, no, yeah, yeah. She was the police officer. Yeah, I can't imagine. And then, you know, I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying to be all sexist and everything, but honestly? Maybe she's a biter. It's hard to defend against biters. I've been bitten a couple times. After Ben did it the second time, I said, now, look. I'm just saying she wasn't intimidating. I'd like my office to be intimidating. I want to feel like if I make her wrong move. She's probably got a taser, though. She could have a taser, but, you know. I'm sure at least.

I don't know. I don't know. I've met some people. Did you kind of nudge her at you? Like, what? You want some of this? No, I didn't. What you going to do? I respected the office. Somebody smell bacon? Hello, man. I said, hello, officer. And she said, I've got a permit to carry two. Give me some of your candy. Would you like some candy? Zach, you got anything else over there at the news desk? I do. I've got one other news article here. This one actually is from MSNBC, so national news source, but local. So this is from Davenport, Iowa. And this made the front page of MSN. Nice. Headline is, Iowa City says, Good Friday is still Good Friday. So subheading is, council members upset at apparent name change from Good Friday to celebration of spring. So for their holiday.

Yeah. So they apparently, it was in the works to change the day, not to be called Good Friday, but to be called celebration of spring. It is a national recognized holiday. Like, it's not like Davenport individually named it Good Friday. Or like a corporation has the right to say, we don't want to call this, you know, Christmas, whatever, holiday, you know, Christmas party. It's a holiday party. Yeah. It's, it's, yeah. And, but it turns out that, that the report was false. They, they never agreed to, to make the change, but it somehow kind of got leaked. Are they actually, um, somebody went, went ahead with, uh, some sort of announcement or, or a flyer, uh, that, that had it changed to celebration of spring when it wasn't actually approved. But, I mean, come on. Yeah. We gotta, I mean. It's so PC about everything. Do we have to totally separate? I mean, I don't know. That's just, that's ridiculous. It's crazy. I don't know. We can all agree that spring is coming. Yeah. Celebration of spring. I mean, we can all find some common ground here. But, I mean, schools are getting ridiculous with, with, uh, how far they will go to, to change something.

And, and, you know. You know, the problem is. Just call it a week off. All right. You know, you don't, you don't have to come up with some clever name that, that's, you know. Well, they all, winter break. They almost changed the name so it's like, it's also, I mean, before it was offensive to non-Christians. And now they changed the name so it is offensive directly to Christians. You know, like, it's almost when they, when they change it. You know, if you're really shooting for ambiguous, you know, go the whole way. You know, I mean, get it done. You know, and not, you know, just kind of half, half roll it around. I, I don't know. I mean, that, that diversity stuff, that's, that's tough. You know, you're not going to find everything everybody likes. Well, you know, like, you look at the big holiday, like Christmas, you know. And you got these major corporations. They want our money. They want us to go shopping. They want us to buy their trees. They want us to buy their paper. But they're so afraid to call it Christmas. Although, that's exactly why we're buying it, you know. It's like, I'm, I'm, I'm buying a Christmas present, you know. So, yeah, it drives me crazy.

No, it's a holiday present. No, actually, we're celebrating Christmas. I mean, you can buy them for other, I don't get offended if someone's celebrating Hanukkah or if they're celebrating Kwanzaa or whatever. I don't care. I mean, celebrate it. You know, I'm, I'm not going to, like, run and cry in my bed because somebody has another holiday. Right. But do they have Kwanzaa trees? But this brings up an interesting point, though. How do you celebrate Kwanzaa? Yeah. I never have. I don't know. I haven't even, I've stuck with Christmas ever since I was small. It works for me. But the, would you rather have somebody, if it had to be one of the two, would you rather have somebody get offended? Especially, like, in the workplace or at a school, you know, where it's deemed inappropriate, you know, HR level, whatever. But would you rather have somebody be offended by something that's, that's Christian oriented or just indifferent? Because if, if they're offended, doesn't that maybe, you know, bring up a conversation, potentially? Or, or means there's some sort of passion to the fact that they're, they're, they're against it, rather than just saying, yeah, whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, be, you know, speaking as a Christian, would we rather see people be, you know,

obviously we don't want people to be passionately against it, but at least maybe you, that, that brings up a conversation, a debate, or whatever. Sure. For someone who's indifferent, doesn't care about anything. Well, usually they're just bitter people. It has really nothing to do with Christianity or whatever. Well, like I say, I don't get, I don't get offended if someone says happy Hanukkah to me. If they're Jewish, I'm like, well, happy Hanukkah. Yeah. You know? Celebrate on, brother. That works out for you. Yeah. You know, I mean. No, I, I, I agree. I mean, the thing is. But obviously it bothers somebody to, or I mean, at least at a corporate level. Yeah. Or administration level of school, it bothers them, people enough where they, they got to separate it out. Well, I think they're afraid, I think it comes down to money. They're afraid of either getting sued or they're afraid of the change, the cost of printing up five different holiday greeting cards for people, you know? I mean, they're, they're, they boil down to money. I don't know how many corporations I think are stuck to the guns of that. But is Christmas not sort of a, I mean, it's like a national, like you said about Good Friday. Is that not a, you know, a national recognized holiday? It's not just, I mean, sure.

Sure, it's obviously like, we're going to know it's Christian based. Sure. Of course. But, and, and, you know, that's a whole nother conversation that when people are celebrating Christmas for the wrong reason. But it's, but it's out there. It's commercial. It's national. It's not like it's just all the Christians going, it's Christmas. Now you've got to believe in Jesus. Right, right. I mean, it's, it's not like, you know, we're pushing this Christmas thing on everybody. It's like, well, you're all a part of it. Well, but I think, I think it depends on how much it means to somebody. Like, like, you know, Veterans Day is a nationally known holiday. It doesn't mean as much to me as it does to veterans, you know? But are you wanting them to change it? You could offend it if they haven't. Well, I don't ask them to change it, you know? And I assume it's there for, you know, I mean, granted, I mean, not like there's any, I don't have any support for the veterans. I do, but I mean, it means they, they get the meaning of it, you know? They've seen it. They've smelled it. They get it, you know? And so Christmas is the same way for us, you know? I mean, I would assume for, you know, just like, you know, Thanksgiving doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot to me, you know?

So you're not, you're not doing a national movement for having them to change the name of Veterans Day? No, I would hope they stick with it. What would be a good alternative, you know, a generic that doesn't, you know, Offend anybody? And offend anybody. Why would they just call it everybody's day? Because you're those veterans shot people. You're the best day. It's funny at, at, uh, the, uh, nameless work that I, I work at. We have, uh. They have to find a name for that. Then you could have business cards. They might have to bring it. We're having a hard time getting any customers. Go down to that one building. Which one? I can't tell you. Wall insurance. Generic brand. Um, anyways, uh, they have, they have different, um, uh, network groups, right? Um, so, so, uh, they have, they have, uh, an Asian group. Um, they have a woman's network. And I think they, they changed the name of it where it's like called resource group now, but they're basically a network, right?

Yeah. Um, and, and anybody can join them, right? So, so a man can join the woman's network. So, but anyway, so you've got the, the, the Asian American group. You've got the women's group. You've got the African American group. You've got the Latino or Hispanic group. And the, and there's no, there's no white male, you know, group, you know, yeah. Now, given you, again, you can join any group, but, but it's funny because we got talking at work. I don't know. I don't know if Ben, if you're the one who said this, but what, what would be the, what would be the basis if you were to have a group or, you know, there's really no basis to it though. Like, yeah, we're white guys. We're the majority. I could see me and 50 other likenesses as I walk out the door. Like, what would be your flag or what would, you know, what would be your stance of we rally together and hang out, you know, or I don't know. Can't we all just get along? That's, that's all I ask. Yeah. But I do think it's funny though, that, that there is no group, there's a group for everything. Yeah. Yeah.

But there is no, cause, and, and they're not, they, they don't talk about them. Like they would never say it's a, it's a minority group because that's not the point. And it's not because you're, you're, you're, you're holding up the, you know, minority groups. It's, it's just networks, but there's no network place to connect and why can't, why can't we have a men's group that women join or, you know, I don't know, I guess we, you know, but what we should talk about men's rights. I don't know. I mean, typically that's, I think there's a lot of groups that don't need to be there. I think there's a lot of people that band together thinking that they're going to push an issue. That's not really an issue. You know, you're making issues so you can band together. Why don't you just get together with friends? Why don't you just say, Hey, look, let's meet over at Steve's house. You know, don't call it anything. Don't set up an agenda. Don't print a business card. Hey, you know, didn't we say that was a problem with dudes though? Getting other dudes to come over to your place? Yeah, that's true. We could share our parks. Yeah. Actually, you know, the, the, the, the chat suggestion was to, uh, was to have a party to sell, uh, nose hair tremors, like nose clippers and stuff.

Or what the deluxe model would look like. Like dude, dude maintenance. I like it. What other things would you have? I think you should invite women to that. Not the men. Men aren't going to want to buy dude maintenance. Women aren't going to go to a dude maintenance party. I think they would. They want their dude maintenance. I'd go to a dude maintenance party. I think they should have like a remote control, uh, back hair, uh, lawnmower type looking operation. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't really have. That sounds risky. I don't have much of a back hair problem, but I mean, if I did, I don't, you know, I wouldn't want to have to ask my leader to take care of him. You mean back back hair. I thought you meant like the, oh, I gotcha. Oh. No, no. We're talking, I mean, it's going to take some trouble. Like a scratcher, but, uh. Yeah, like, like if you go on a water slide and you're floating above the water because of your back hair, that's the kind of problems I'm talking about.

So wait, what groups are you saying band together that shouldn't, shouldn't be banded? I'd say just about every single one of them. Like protesters in general irritate me. You know, I'm like people, I mean, it's, it's not, I mean, people that, that feel that their agenda needs to be pushed. Now, I can't go too far with that because I mean, there's, I. Because you have an agenda? Because I have an agenda, you know. But you're not trying to, you're not trying to band together. You don't shove it down people's throats. No. You just get a radio show. No. Exactly. Well, true. But you have the option to listen, you have the option not to. Like, like people who, I don't know, yeah, people who push it. I mean, it really, it doesn't matter if I believe in what you're saying or not. It just irritates me, you know, that, that you feel that you're so important or that, or that you have, you know, the, the, the, the right to interrupt me with the things that you, you know, that you feel important just because you can talk louder than I do or just because you can band together 50 people. And you know, they're, they're just, they're just itching for you to say something back. So, you know, get into the debate. Yeah.

Like, I'm not even trying to have a debate with you. Like, stop trying to have a debate with me. I don't want to talk about it. You know, I mean, if, if you want to be this way, you know, that's great. Be that way. You know, I don't want to fight with you about it. I love you just the same. I don't care what you do. You know, if I don't agree with it, I don't want it in my house. But I mean, of course, at the top of that, of all these groups, there's someone making a ton of cash. Well, that's true. I mean, you know, they, they roll up everybody's emotions, get them all angry, blah, blah, blah. Oh, by the way, save 25 bucks and we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll take care of those people, you know? Right. And you got these dudes marching around with these thousand dollar suits going, well, I'm doing pretty well. I just got a bunch of people mad, you know? And that's all it is. It's, it's, it's a, the average Joe doesn't really, I mean, I don't, I don't care. Well, you know, that's the thing is who has time to protest everything? You know, who's, who, who, I mean, what kind of member of society now, I shouldn't take this too far, but, but you're somebody that, that if you are a full-time activist, that means you're taking money from somebody to be an activist.

Like somebody is keeping you afloat. And so how much can you really be with the common man who's dumping money back into the economy and, and producing own goods and wares and a service, generating a paycheck, putting in taxes, you know, how much do I really, I mean, on a, on a logical level, like how much respect do I really give you? You spend your days walking around telling everybody what they're doing wrong. Well, even aside from the point you're trying to make, it's, it's, you know, you're, I don't respect you, uh, not even, not even, or maybe for more than one reason, but, but even separately from the, what they're shouting is all the things you just described. Well, not working, they're not contributing or whatever it is. Right. I mean, whatever. I already disrespect you. Then you open your mouth. Right. And I don't agree with that either. Well, I mean, whatever issue they're pushing, that does not keep me from being a, you know, a human being with them to be in their friend, to having a conversation with them. None of that keeps me from, from, from having a relationship with you, you know, but it's, but you know, it's your, as soon as you, you push it, you know, as soon as you make your issue, my issue, because if I know what, I mean, even, you know, stuff that I don't agree with, if they, you know, if, if, if that's what they want to do and that's, what's important to them, you know, by all means, I don't agree with it, but you're still cool. Lord made you just like the Lord made me, you know, we're fine. But as soon as, as soon as that is the only thing you have to say and you, you, you judge

people and cut and shuffle them based on your issue. Now we have a problem because you, for the same reason, you don't want to be discriminated against because of whatever you feel, you know, is the same reason that you're discriminated against everybody else that isn't on the same boat as you, you know, it's the same, it's reverse discrimination is basically what it tops out to be. And it, and it, it does, there's no positive out of it. Nobody goes to a rally for, for the Ku Klux Klan rally and gets converted to the Klan. You know, if you wanted to be in the Klan, you'd been there, you know, I mean, rallies, protests, you know, all people do is drive by and go, look at those guys, you know, that's about as far as it goes. I can't remember one thing I've drawn, I've driven by and thought, you know, got in the car and said, I need to be part of this. I thought, you know, these guys, these guys are trying to stop the destruction of trees, you know, I'm like, man, they're, look, there's 50 people over there. This has really got to be important. I was going to cut a tree down today. No, I'm not. It's not, not the trees aren't important, but you know what? I mean, there's like that type of advertising, you're, you're, you're, you're patting your own self on the back. You're basically saying, you know, I'm doing good things. This is what, I mean, cause it's not doing anything. Now, what do you think about the people that, uh, you know, will hold, hold signs by the road in front of a business or something. And, and, uh, you know, in protest of something, the business does, or like, for example, uh,

I one time saw people, uh, and, and given the, the building is set back really far from the road, but, uh, it's out, uh, on like mill civic, it's like pet land or something. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And I don't, I guess they, the way they're true. Yeah. All those things. And, and people were holding signs out. And so like, you know, that's not a rally by any means, but, but they're protesting and that, you know, so like, but it's interesting because I don't know, are they, are they creating awareness? I mean, you know, I'd say, yeah. I don't know that I have as much of a problem with that. I mean, I mean, if you're not egging the building, you know, you're not making in, I suppose if you wanted to make outbound phone calls from your own house, you know, I mean, that's something, but I mean, there, there, I mean, it was an obvious crime and that was, you know, a true, it's not a belief system. Yeah. That's this wrong. I mean, the moral majority believes that you should not abuse animals or, you know, sell them to other people with diseases. Cause I mean, I mean, that business was, was not only defrauding people by selling defective animals, but also mistreating animals, you know? And so, I mean, I don't know. And I can't say, you know, I don't want to step on my own point here because that's something

I believe in that you shouldn't abuse animals. As long as I like it, we can go ahead and do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But there, there also wasn't a, a, a protest, you know, there also wasn't 50 people, you know, holding up, holding up traffic, stopping in front of my car, littering my car with pamphlets. They were just standing in front of the pet land and people going into the pet land, they said, Hey, look, you might want to know. You know, I mean, it's different if it's not intrusive, I guess we'll put it that way. You know, awareness is different than being intrusive. And I had any, uh, you know, rally type things in Des Moines, uh, recently or I don't know. I mean, the last one I can think of is there, you know, the get together for the gay marriage thing, uh, in front of the Capitol, but that was quite a while ago, but they're there all the time though. There's, they, they had one just recently. I mean, it's well, and there's the same amount of people, but there were for pro gay marriage and anti-gay marriage, it's the same amount of protestor dudes hanging around the Capitol. Can we think, can you guys think of anything else that, that, that there might've been a protest, uh, you know what I mean? Sometimes I'm not sure. I don't know if I'm driving by, I'll see stuff. I mean, it's been a while. It's like winter, you know, 49 feet of snow kind of slowed some of that stuff down. People that stick out for 49 feet of snow, I stop by and see what he has to say.

You know? I mean, I like his attitude. What is really that important? Maybe it's worth it. You got something to tell me. Zach, anything else that the, uh, that tap us out for, uh, for the news desk? Yeah, it does. Basically there, there's kind of one, one, uh, side note though is, is, uh, and this is not really a, well, it's kind of a news item, but I think it happened a while ago, but there's a, there's an ad on the paper I printed out for, for LifeLock, the identity theft protection. Uh, I'm not sure if this is the same company, that, that guy who would give out his social security number on that. Did he not get his identity stolen? Did you guys hear about that? No. No. He did. Yeah. And, and, and, you know, he's proclaiming, yeah, I will give him a, and, and he did. Uh, and, and I, I mean, I don't have a whole lot more detail, but I was just, I'm like, I just think that's funny. That's like the ultimate challenge though for a, for a hacker. Yeah. You know, here, yeah, yeah. Bring it on.

And that's basically what he said. I mean, okay. And you know what I thought. Some guy living in his mom's basement's going, tell me what to do, million dollar man. And you know, that might be the, the kind of, uh, cocky advertising that we're talking about that like, I kind of, you know, I kind of liked it. Like if I was going to do that, I'd be like, well, that guy seems pretty confident about it. I'm going to sign up. Yeah. But, but he issued the big challenge and they got him. Well, that's the thing is never assumed that you're the smartest guy out there or, you know, the smartest guy out there. Cause there is somebody that has never been out of his mom's basement that is way smarter than you. And he'll take that thing down in two bucks. And you, and you literally, it wasn't like you're just talking about the, uh, that your, your, your company's good and keep you safe. You staked your entire reputation on it. He literally, he put it on the side of like buses or whatever. He put his social, his social security number on there and on the, on the, on the TV, uh, advertisements. And yeah. Well, he's backed by his own insurance, Paulie. What's he got to worry about?

No, true. But, but you failed. Maybe, maybe he was about to go bankrupt and hired somebody to do it himself. He did it. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That would be pretty good. Oh, that's killer. That's beautiful. You know, when we were talking about, um, when we were, uh, we were talking about people that get, that get excited about their own, their own stuff going on, right? Like, like Mike, you were talking about people kind of, uh, kind of going about their own business. Um, you know, one of the things that was weird, I was thinking this week is I, I was actually getting a little bit disappointed about how often I am not approached by people of other faiths. And it's obvious to say, because their faith isn't the same thing. Like, like, uh, Christian, uh, the Christian faith is very much a, uh, a discipleship thing. Like you're, you're, you're supposed to go out and fetch people. And then, you know, that's, that's not as high of a priority in a lot of the other religions. But like, like I, I was thinking, uh, as much as, you know, when, uh, when you get a, like a, from some, from a different religion, like a, like a Mormon or something, and they knock on your door, I think, you know what, that guy's at least out about on his faith. Right.

And, and, and there's something to be said for someone that cares enough to check on you. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like, think of it this way. You look at someone and, and you, you might approach, uh, you know, not approach somebody because you're like, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to offend them. But what, what was that thing that, um, that they, uh, that I see us was like, you've never met a mere mortal, right? Like, you've never met a mortal in your life. Everybody is, everybody you've ever met is eternal. Right. It's just, you know, where that, you know, where that eternity goes. Right. But like, uh, you know, it really does take someone to say, look, I, I care enough. I care enough to bother. And you don't, maybe I don't believe in what you believe. Right. But, but there's something to be said for someone that just comes up to you and says, look, you know, what do you, what are you about? You know, what do you, what do you believe in? I got something to share with you, even if it's not the thing that I believe in, because it's, it's someone saying that I think there's a consequence for you, or I think there's a lifestyle change for you. And I'm willing to check on that. I care enough to ask you. And like, I mean, and I think there's something to be said about that.

I don't know what got me thinking about that. I think I saw like a, oh, I know it was with those dudes at church that I thought looked like Mormons. And I thought, I thought, ah, the Mormons and they harassed me. I've, I've had a couple of run-ins with, with Mormons and we had, we had long conversations, but like, you know, there's something I can definitely respect about someone who, who shows up. I mean, they're not, they don't have a personal care for me really, obviously, but like, you know, who, but there's people that will approach you, you know, whether you, whether you agree with it or not. I think there's something to be said about that. And, you know, that's, that's obviously a, I think probably a lack of strength in from a, from a Christianity perspective. I'm so, I should be getting that more often. Like I think of how many people, like I'm a Christian, but it's not, I mean, I don't have a Jesus shirt on, right? Like my shoes don't say, you know, God is love. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I, I don't really get approached. And the thing is, is, is, and I, and, you know, I'm just as guilty as the next guy about not taking opportunities where they're, where they're available. But, but, you know, if I look back and I say, how many times has someone approached me in a, in a conversation, you know, Hey, where do you go to church? Or, you know, that kind of thing. I think that's, that's, that's our example. That's where things aren't, aren't coming through very well.

And then I think, well, what does that really mean? And to a certain extent, it's, I'm not caring enough. Like, I'm not saying, do I, do I care enough to get over whatever, someone say, Hey, how you doing? Do you go to church somewhere? Right. Right. And, uh, I don't know. I was just weird. I was, uh, I was just, that's something I've been thinking and kind of praying about this week is, is, um, you know, it is to a certain extent, you know, what, what, what fear is being overridden there? Like, like, what am I saying? He's just saying, well, I, this person may be uncomfortable, but I'm like, what is, what is beyond that? Yeah. And I really think it's more so you're uncomfortable and not just you, but I mean, in general is, uh, cause I think about, you know, with myself, yeah. What's, what's going to happen. Right. Not, I mean, I mean, even if, even if something did happen where they're offended and, and it's not like, you know, sometimes maybe it's a person at workplace, it's not like you were probably necessarily best buds anyways. Right. So, so it's, it's not like a, a huge friendship loss.

And, but I even, even still, that's like worst case scenario. I don't think that's going to happen. You may have a little conversation. They may not be interested and it's given you're, you may, you're not coming on full, full strength right away. Right. I mean, you're, you're easing it in. And so if you're easing it in, you ease it, ease it back out. You know, you're, you're not a doofus, you know? And, uh, yeah, but I think I am a doofus. Well, that is true. Dang it. Who would like to vote for Mike, Mike doofus? Sorry. Don't take my candy. Do you know Jesus? Leave me alone. Have the candy, but do you know Jesus? Mike won't ask. They might hurt me. I think we're afraid of being that guy though. You know, the guy who's the obnoxious in your face, Turner Byrne. Uh, I don't know if you've ever seen, you know, that guy out there before. You're just, even as a believer, I've seen people like that. I'm going, man, you're a freak.

You make me not want to believe. You need to turn this to. I want to leave, you know? And we're on the same team in theory, but. Uh, no, that's, that's true. That's true. No, actually, and that's, that's actually a big problem. And I, you know, we won't have time to get into it this week, but, you know, one of the things is, is how, has, how often God's people, uh, people like maybe in quotes, I don't know, are getting in God's way. Right. Like the, um. That's the story of history. Yeah. Like, and, um, you know, like I, I had a story of, of someone at work who was a, um, who's a vegetarian and like, who, like somebody had told her, well, you know, like God hates vegetarian. Like you're supposed to, you know, you're supposed to eat meat. It's in the Bible. And I thought to myself and I like, um, you know, after, after, you know, that had been said, I thought, how terrible was that? How, how ridiculous that someone, you know, I don't know what their situation is. Right. But whether, you know, if there is any separation from God, they feel a distance between them and God because some wild need goofus like just gets to say whatever they want and they

get to ruin or at least tarnish that relationship that someone may have with God because of something so stupid. Several years ago, I got, I get a call from the police and there's a family, I have no clue who this couple is. Uh, uh, no, it's a guy and a girl living together and they have a baby and the baby dies. Okay. And, and I'm over there with the police and like I said, I'm just like coming as this strange pastor guy. So it's a little awkward for me too, but, but I ended up, you know, meeting them and doing the funeral and everything. It's somewhere in the process of the couple, three days between when the baby died and the funeral, some love, uh, who called themselves a Christian said, well, your baby died because you're living in sin. And like, God, God's getting you for that. I'm like, are you, I mean, I was just almost threw up, you know, I'm just like, I don't think so. I mean, no, show me one place in the Bible that says the Lord acts like that. That's the character of God thing. That's reading your Bible. That's the character of God thing. I mean, is it sin? Yes. You know, really in a relationship to should have been in? Yes. But did God kill this baby?

No. No. I mean, it's just like, but, but you know, and that's going to live with them forever. You know, it really will. Even if it's proven not true, you know, and even if, even if pastor man says it's not true, you'll never forget that. You'll never forget that. And I don't know how many people that I've talked to, I know we've got to wrap it up, but I don't know how many people I've talked to that, that went to church as a kid and, and some moron screwed it up at age 11 and they'll never go back and then never go back. Now, now that doesn't mean their excuses are relevant because if you, if you check that Bible out and do a little research on your own, you know, if it was for you, you'd show back up, you know, you, that's exactly what we designed pathway for. I mean, really, it was a ton of people who disappeared like for years and came back and they're like, wow, I didn't know it could be like this. True. And it's, that's totally, it was on purpose that way. It's like, well, who you are, where you are, and we'll take you from there. Yeah. And that, I think that, I think that works for me. I think you go, you go to pathway for, for a month or two and, and, and, and, you know, you'll understand that whatever preconceived notions about what you had about church, you know, can easily be lifted into just, just read your Bible, man. It's a Bible based deal. It's a God thing, you know?

And so I, I, I think that's what pathway is good for. And speaking of which, as always, we would love to see you, uh, at pathway church. We meet Sunday mornings at 10 a.m. at Wallace Elementary in, uh, Johnson, Iowa. Um, we'd love to see you out. Um, I'm Ben, uh, as you can see on your screen there in the red shirt, that's Mike Foost in the middle is Zach Houck to the left is the ever loving, uh, Dan Hudson. Pastor of path, uh, pathway church. Um, thanks so much for listening to the show. We will see you next Monday night, uh, 10 o'clock on Des Moines Amplified.com. You are live from the path. Have a wonderful week.