I'm going to wear your robe, I'm going to wear your righteous mane everywhere I go. You're going to light my candle, son, you're going to make it shine. And welcome. You are listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. Thank you so much for being here today. We really appreciate it. What's that? Is there trouble? There's trouble already. Hold on a minute. I got trouble. Oh, I know why. I see that there's trouble. I found it. I found the trouble. I don't fix it. I just say, hey, there's trouble. I found the trouble. This really stinks. Yeah, yeah. Fix it. Who is it, Rocky? Daniel. I don't even know what you're talking about. I just wanted to add something.

Thank you. I think you overreacted due to your lack of knowledge. I always overreact. Anyway, you're listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. I'm Ben Foost. I will be your host and talk wrangler for the evening. I appreciate you being here. You know, all right. So I saw this woman. I saw this woman. I've seen women. Coming out of the Walmart, right? She was coming out of the Walmart, and she was eating fried chicken. Have you guys ever eaten fried chicken in your vehicle? Yep. Not from Walmart. Not from Walmart? Can't say I have. Okay. Roasted chicken? I'll tell you who Julie is in just a second. I have to remember this fried chicken story, and then we'll go into the formalities. So anyway, was that a no, Dan? Fried chicken in your vehicle? Do you keep when you've eaten fried chicken in your phone?

I wanted to check. I do not see it in my calendar anywhere. I don't care if it was from the Walmart or not. Have you eaten fried chicken in your vehicle? I'd say definitely yes. Probably. Okay. Daniel's going to be a yes. I don't recall. This is outrageous. Daniel has eaten fried chicken in his car. You're a definite. No more. Okay. I've had chicken sandwiches. All right. So anyway, like, I mean, drumstick. Then here's the thing that struck me. It didn't otherwise, it wasn't odd to me, except for I start pulling in, and she looks, starts checking the traffic either way, right? And then she takes a big old honk out of this drumstick, and then, like, teeth down, severs it, and then yanks it like it's going to put up a fight. And I'm generally not put off by people eating their food in their car like that, but it was kind of gross. How about a turkey leg?

Yeah. I think any leg. They're big. Like, any type of Neanderthal attack on a fried food that you just purchased somewhere. And obviously, this is Walmart fried. You're coming out of the Walmart parking lot. So, I'm assuming it's Walmart fried chicken. Hopefully, it is not fried chicken you've purchased somewhere else or made and brought it to the store with you. Where do you get a fried chicken at Walmart? They sell the drumsticks at the Daily Isle. Yeah, don't they? Yeah. That's definitely. You know, the woman gets a turkey leg at the fair and makes me carry it around. That's like manly, though. So she doesn't look like a glutton? Yeah. You go to the fair. You go to the, what's the medieval things? Medieval things. Yeah, medieval things. And you walk around, you know, and you get your chicken and turkey. I never do that. Really?

I never instantly start to grunt. Renaissance fair things, you've got to go to one of those. Have you ever been to a Renaissance fair? Absolutely. Kansas City? That's it? Yes, I attended. That's the end of my story. I have threatened to go to one for the last four years. I say, this is the weekend. We're going. And then I always run into them at the quick trip because I see them. They all show up in their costumes. And it's just before it starts. And all year, I've said, we're going to the Renaissance fair. And then I run into them at the quick trip. No, I don't think so. They say, I didn't know this is what goes on here. They're totally in character. It is fun. I've done one in Kansas City a couple years. My father-in-law used to live there. Were you in character at the time, Dan? I was not. I was just one of the guys walking around eating turkey legs.

What goes on there? Is there plays? There are plays. There's jugglers. There's the jousting. There's a… Ooh! Speaking of jugglers. Comics. You've got a juggler joke. Okay, so dig on this. We went to the Adventureland on Sunday. Me and the wife and then two kids and her grandma went to the Adventureland. So whatever, we're tooting around. And the circus is available. And I say, hey, Grace, which is my daughter's name. I said, you want to go to the circus? There'll be elephants. And she's like, yeah, elephants. Woo! So we go in there, and there's no animals at all in this circus. It is an animal-less circus. They used to, didn't they? And horses. Well, I thought that was part of the circus.

I thought you always had to have animals, you know? Apparently… You can't afford it with the water slide thing going on. Apparently, it didn't make it, you know? Because I was trying to figure out how they were going to get this elephant on this small stage and whatever. There was a puppy, which was a poor substitute for an elephant. Was it, like, part of the show? Could you ride the puppy? Yeah, yeah. I mean, not to spoil it for anybody, but the clown comes out and acts like he's going to eat a sandwich and sets it behind him for a second to do something, and then the puppy steals it. And then the puppy hides in a basket, you know? The children found it very entertaining. It's tough all over. Budget cuts. I know. You can't even keep a malnourished elephant around anymore. Now, hold on a minute. That's a stimulus package. That's tough, though, because that's to say that they had an elephant and had to get rid of it, because times are bad. I've been there. I've seen it. How do you… They had horses. They've had elephants.

How do you send back an elephant? Like, do you just pat him on the bum and say, sorry, man, we just can't afford you anymore, and then send him down the road? No more feeding the elephants, so you better find a home. See you, Bluto? He's walking down Adventureland Drive trying to thumb a ride. Hey, that's why those donkeys were so cheap that we were talking about a few weeks back. There's an influx from the circus. Did you notice the donkeys yesterday when we left the camp? Yeah, I did see them. I thought of you. That's awesome. Well, it's good to know that someone else sees a donkey and thinks of me. We were leading worship out of the camp last night. No. Yeah, last night. Yeah, it was last night. Yeah. Oh, I tried to… Boy, the Ben and Dan show rocked it at this camp. Do I sense sarcasm? I'm just saying, we're not quite ready to go on tour. We can do the children's camps. Kevin Fuller openly mocked me. Ooh, that's not good. Yeah.

I mean… Well, actually, that's all right. Things could improve. Here's the benefit, and I say this every time anything goes shady in like a worship service. It all sounds good to the Lord. It's everybody else that's got to suffer. So, frankly, you know, half the kids weren't paying attention. You know, the other half… Yeah, sports camp. They're all like, play basketball. Yeah, we were okay. I don't sing. Actually, things were solid. Yeah. You know what? I've changed my mind. It was the best worship service ever. You've never seen a worship service like this. It could have gone 40% better. We picked up an elephant walking down the road on the way there. He played congas. It would be better. We brought in a gal to play djembe, but tomorrow night we have Phil, the drummer dude. Oh, yeah, that was a pretty good one, because a bass guitar is called a bass, you know, right? And I don't know if I just visualized the word or something.

I was introducing Ben, the bass dude. And it came… That's pretty close. That moment of fear of, is he going to have us? And these kids are… In front of these poor Bible camp students. Their eyebrows all raised. I'm like, bass. Bass Pro Shop. Okay, that's the same word, but it's a bass. Bass guitar. And you don't recover from that. No. You just go… Yeah. And actually, from there on out, the kids were doing the real thing at me the whole night. Reeling. Reeling. Come on, bass man. And they were saying, who brought Dan? Yeah. We booked him for three nights, kids. I don't know how he was available. They got rid of the elephants. So anyway, we go to this circus.

Animalists. No animals. And the first act is a quick costume change. I'm amazed by this. I don't know how it's done. But… Those are cool. The gal gets in the hoop. He pulls it up. And like three seconds later, he comes down. The gal's wearing something else. You know, equally flashy. Totally not underneath the current clothing. You know? I don't know how they do it. I was wowed, but not quite super entertaining. So then the clown comes out and does the whole dog stealing the hot dog jazz. And that was it, you know? And then the juggler man comes out. And here's the thing. Like, it's just a juggler, you know? He's weaving and bopping. You know, he's doing stuff. But he's wearing bright colored clothing. And I found myself back into like a seven-year-old mentality, you know?

Because I was just watching him. I'm like, yeah, this is pretty cool. And then he'd go, whoop! And I'd go, yeah! You know, every time, like, he'd be smiling and dancing around. And then he'd go, whoop! And I'd be like, yeah, whoop! Like, just because he was super excited. Like, I was then super excited. And I looked at the kids. And they were, like, looking around. And I'm like, yeah, man, you see the juggler, man? Dude, he's cool. He's flipping stuff. Dude, he's elephants. He's throwing hats. He's wearing hats. He's throwing hats. He's got more hats on. I'm like, this guy's cool. And as soon as the crowd would die down and he'd think no one's paying attention, he'd go, huh, huh, whoop! And then he'd start throwing it again. I was like, man, this dude is the most entertaining man I've ever met. And I thought, how did you get stuck in this animal circus?

You know, you could be so much more. Or you could be traveling around with an animal circus and be the top bill. That's right. I was very entertained. Like, there was probably nothing inherently of value about it. But I was totally entertained. I was eating popcorn. I was holding the baby. The baby was just, you know, paying no attention. And I'm like, whoop! Throwing bottles around. That's the coolest guy ever. You know, I've got to wonder. Has the economy hit you really bad? That this is your living image? Maybe it is. Maybe it is. Can't afford a movie anymore. Can't tell. Cable's gone. I was going to go get some fried chicken at Walmart. Apparently that's out. Can't do that. And I sold the elephant. Yeah, the elephant's gone.

I just sent my elephant away. Now I have three trapezoidal stands. What am I going to do with them? You know? Make a fort? I've been juggling them going, whoop, in my backyard. The neighbors seem excited. All right. You've been listening to Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. Just so you know what's coming up tonight. And we'll talk to her in just a second. We'll be speaking with Julie Barnes about the Spirit Midwest Music Festival. It sounds very, very cool. I'm pretty excited about that. And we'll all let her tell more about it because she's better at it than I am. Also, later on in the program, we'll see. We're done with the fried chicken. Oh, prayer. We talked last week. I think we're going to talk a little bit about prayer. We're going to talk about, I don't know if anybody caught the title of the show. I'm sure it was poignant and straight to it. Anyway, it was Jesus never played the West End. Sometimes we think of prayer, we think of an archaic, old English performance of the Lord's quotation prayer. Is there something wrong with that?

So we'll talk about that. Oh, ye God from above. I'm glad I didn't bring my prayer guide. I'm lost now. Here's how it's done. Went to a funeral. Went to a funeral. Not wearing that shirt. Wearing that shirt. No, I wasn't. I went to two funerals this week. One of them I actually did wear this shirt. Mr. Cadbury, we'll miss him dearly. But, you know, I come from a whole different point of view and tradition in what prayer is and everything. It was so weird to me. About halfway through I realized they read every single one of those puppies. I mean, every word that was said from the front, I could have, why bother say it? I could have read it and could have saved the time. They could have, I mean, it was just interesting. I don't know. It's just my observation. Are you saying that it was not a from the heart personal prayer? I can't answer that. I don't know their heart. But I'm just saying I could have said the same thing and it would have been the identical prayer.

And everybody in that room could have. And it was just interesting. I just found it interesting. That's all I'm saying. Who am I? Maybe it's very much like a wedding. Like they feel it has to be scripted so you don't accidentally mess it up. Like perhaps say almost a swear word at camp. Oh, insert name here. We are glad you are here. Oh, blankety blank. We're here to bring together dude and chick. Or in the state of Iowa, party A and party B. Oh, I so badly want to scratch that out and write bride and groom. I think I'd probably ruin their license. Wait a minute. Is that the guy in the pastel blue shirt? Oh, I'm sure he'll do it. He's done a couple before. You said I can do it. You can reach us, by the way. You can Skype us in if you're interested in calling into the show. Skype name is Des Moines Amplified. And that's all one word. And you can give us a call.

If you're not comfortable calling in, I can call you. If you just type in your Skype name in the chat, I'll give you a buzz. I'll probably wait until really late at night. So I'd be prepared for that. Okay, guest. Let's get to the guest. Like I said, in studio with us is Julie Barnes. Julie is the, along with Al. Julie and Al Barnes are putting together the Spirit Midwest Festival Concerts. What's the best way to say it? Oh, it's a music festival. Music festival. Okay. Okay. And this is, it's coming up in August. It's on Friday, August 6th from 5 to 11 p.m. And Saturday, August 7th from 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. I was just looking over this, some information about it. This looks really cool. I mean, there's 40 plus bands. A lot of the talent is local, quasi-local, right? I mean, from Midwest. There's three stages. There's a maid stage, a hard rock stage. Dan will be hanging out at the hard rock stage.

That's me. That's me. You heard me. Yes, I have heard you. I can do hard rock. He did some sort of like a poison version of How Great Is Our God to do the sound check at this camp deal. And it was good. Which means it would be the opposite of poison. I've heard poison do How Great Is Our God, and it was not fantastic. Okay. Also, Saturday, there's inflatable games. Yep. Not to detract from the music because the music sounds cool, but these inflatable games are going to reel me in. They are actually a lot of fun, and we bring in the gladiator joust just for you. Oh, yeah. Do you have elephants? No, sorry, budget cuts. How about inflatable ones? I think you can pick them up cheap, it sounds like. They're roaming right now. I do have a balloon person who could probably do one for you.

Does he have any need for trapezoidal stands? She won't be suckered by my sales taxes on these trapezoidal stands. I'm going to see right through that. I guess they'll keep holding up my fish tank until I come up with something better. So, I guess, Julie, how did this come about? How did you start into this festival? Well, actually, it was four years ago, just in July, that I'm in a band. Okay, it's a sleeper band. It's not. What's the name of the band? It's a very awesome acoustic rock band. Okay. It's called Tim Cooper and Friends. Do you go into the names Tim Cooper? Are you one of the friends? I'm a friend. And I've been there a while. Some of the friends, they come and go. So, you know, I never find out exactly what happened to them. I suppose it'd be too long to write Tim Cooper and good friends and then occasional acquaintances. And the ne'er-do-will. Yeah, we have actually had the acquaintances, and then we've had the Tim Cooper and friends plus.

Just, you know, for the one who wanted to get up. Do you know all these people? No, I don't know those people. There's a random group of people running by the studio. I missed. There's a special note right there. I'll interrupt you. Yes. They're being attracted like mosquitoes to the light with that shirt you got on, Dan. They're just coming out of the woodwork. You know I want to know what was on that note. To the light. What is it? It was mixed. We started recording. Our band was going to do a concert at Grey's Lake. Okay. So we rented a, or we were in the process of renting a stage and getting it all lined up, and a local band was going to be off the road, a touring band, Spoken. Yeah. I didn't know Spoken at the time, but my husband knew the wife of the lead singer,

and she said they were going to be in town, and they would come and join us. So, you know, we said, sure, that'd be cool. Yeah. A nice acoustic rock worship band, and then Spoken. Yeah. Didn't seem quite like, you know, the people that were going to come and listen to us were going to stick around for Spoken, and definitely the people coming for Spoken weren't coming to see us. They actually played for our youth group once. Yeah. Well, they are awesome. It was just an acoustic thing. Yeah. It was really pretty cool. Yeah. They're hard rock sounds going. Yeah. Well, we ended up thinking we better fill some people in in the middle there to try to make a transition, and that's when the first festival was. Huh. It was four years ago this month,

and we had ten bands and inflatables, and it was a riot. Wow. Wait, you had inflatables the very first one? We did. I'm impressed with this operation. Yeah. We only had one or two the first year, though. Oh. Now we have a village. Nice. Boy, this sounds great. And no charge for the inflatables, right? No charge. Is there jousting? No, the whole festival is free. Now, wait a minute. You said that we would have advanced free tickets. Absolutely. I brought them. It's right there. That's what that stack of them is. It appears that everyone gets in free. That's right. See, I show no favoritism.

This is a rip-off. This is the only reason I got a radio show. How about the freebies? Wait, wait. Let's get out free tickets on the show tonight. Yes, exactly. Yeah, as a matter of fact. You will actually get calls if you try that. The first 75 callers get free tickets to this Christian Music Festival, the Spirit Midwest Festival, on August 6th and 7th. Anybody after the 75th caller still gets them free, but not until tomorrow. But we'll laugh at them. And you have to tell us how long your toenails are. Or how long they've been. I would have refused to answer yesterday. What is the longest you've let them… You know, sometimes I consider leaving one of them super long just in case there's trouble. I don't know why. Kind of an ostrich thing? I always thought, like, let's say that I get, you know, accosted and thrown into a van of sorts. And I always think, man, if I just left my one big toe, you know, like beastly long, that way they come at me, I shiv them with it. I like it. I don't know. It just seems like you could always keep it on you. They can't take it away from you at the airport.

Yeah. You can make a design out of it if you want to. You're going to have to buy a shoe size two sizes up just to accommodate your one long nail. Well, no, you can just cut the toe out of the shoe. Sandals. Boy, that's going to be… Actually, no, you're right. You're going to have to cut it out of the shoe. Otherwise, it's not going to be handy if some guy comes out and you're like, please wait a second while I remove my sneaker and teach you a lesson. Do you think there's any way to get it so it's kind of like a switchblade? Like if you touch your kneecap, your toenail goes… Well, you can keep it tucked under your toe and then just lift your toe up when you… Yeah, if you get it on a… I suppose you'd have to… What do you have to eat to keep your toenails unbrittle? What makes them brittle? Like a lack of what? Vitamin something. I was like… Who knows toenails? You've got this oil stuff that's supposed to make them all healthy, isn't it? Ask Olsen. I have no clue. Omega-3s and stuff make them good. We may not have an Olsen.

I never know that I don't… I never know how long my toenails are until every once in a while I'm walking through the house and Cheryl says, You're going to have to leave. Like, I haven't… Because there's a path where you've been going? Oh, it's just like, you're going to cut those or you're going to find somewhere else to live. I don't know what you're talking about. I like how she draws a solid black and white line on what she's going to put up with from you. She's pretty tough to live with. I can say that because she's not listening tonight because she's on the way home right now. From where? A boom track. What is this? Swim. Swim team tonight. Yeah. Which one of your gals is swimming? Shanna. Shanna Banana. Is there polka? Do you have any polka music? Christian polka? I don't. Oh. Sorry.

Sorry. We weren't able to get that. Is that any indication that the Lord may not favor polka? We have that old ragtime jazz, though, for one of our little 10-minute fillers. We've got a kid in Iowa that ranked 6th in the nation, so he's going to play some ragtime jazz. They rank the ragtime jazz people? Yep, they do. How do you do that? They just had a competition last month, and he got 6th. Sweet. That's pretty good. What's his name? I didn't even place. Sadly, I don't know. Is he not on here? He's not on there. Does he go under the name Rick and Beth? No. Is he one of Tim Cooper's friends? Well, he will be after that. Anybody that meets Tim Cooper is a friend of Tim Cooper. I mean, come on. He's a lovable guy. So, a couple more things about the festival. I didn't say where it was at.

It's on Jordan Park Camp. It's 2251 Fuller Road in West Des Moines. Is there an easy landmark around there? It's at the intersection of Grand and Fuller. Okay. It's really easy to get to. It's kind of down by that Nazarene camp, isn't it? What? There used to be or something. It used to be the Nazarene camp. Okay, that's the same place. Okay. Yep. Very cool. Can I bring my own food in? You can. Is there food vendors there? There are food vendors. Can we open up a Turkey Lake booth? Hold on now. You will be competing with… That's right. Three Blind Pigs. Uh-oh. Aunt Bee's Dinky Diner.

We can compete with them. Yum Smoothies. Cold Stone Creamery. Sapore's Pizza. Roseland's Coffees and Delights. Ooh, what are the delights? Oh, come for breakfast Saturday morning. Cinnamon Rolls. Those are the delights? Yeah, that's just some of them. Bagels. This sounds awesome. Maybe we should just try to partner with someone. And there's an on-site camping. Delights and turkey. That's why we're going to have breakfast. Oh, yeah. Okay, so let's talk about the on-site camping. So the costs are $10 per night per person with a max of $20 per night per family. So if you're just going to bring two people, you might as well bring a third. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Tent, camper, dorm room, or bunkhouse, and $30 per night if you're going to do an RV hookup. Yep. Yep.

And some of the bands here, I'll go through some of these. Michelle Hoy, Firstborn Son, Candy for Nichols, Andy and Kelly, David Bush, Eric Kipp, Light Switch, Our Hero's End, Pilot for Kite, the cast and the crew, the drama scene, Willett, Zach and Sierra Blickens, Vance Lambert, Tim Cooper, and Friends and Sometime Friends and the Ne'er-Do-Wells. This Fires Embrace, The Radiance Effect, Chad Gentry, Child, CJ Michaels, Dark Horse. Boy, there's a lot of them. There are a lot of bands. There's at least going to be 44 bands. Majors. Maybe 45. Maybe 45. Who's… Are you allowed to say who the 45 is? No. Can you say what it rhymes with? Can you say… Is there a dude in the name? No. Does he play banjo? Okay. So what's… Does it rhyme with Skyper? It's… It's not…

It's not Larry and the toenails. I cleared out dudes. No, and unfortunately, it's not the Mighty Clouds of Joy either, but they did want to come. They just couldn't make it… Did you tell them we might attend? Tell them the guys… They won't have no idea. They might. Need to breathe? Yeah. You know, I tried to get need to breathe. I tried to get need to breathe. My letter was much more informal than yours, I'm sure. What did they say to you? I don't think it makes any difference. They said, we're not currently booking in your area. Really? They told me they were. They're here like every three weeks. They're booking here, but they wanted way more money than I was willing to. They didn't even shoot me a price. They let us drive them around town. We were there. My daughter and I were there. What do they call it?

Chaperone? Yeah. They have a name for it. Chaser? Getter? Oh, yeah, yeah. The runner. Driver. Yeah, that'd be terrible if it was a very demeaning name. Yeah, I was like, hey, you. Of course, it was right at the end of their tour, and they were all like slept all day long, and there was a little coffin bed. So I got to take the bus driver to the Motel 6. Oh, cool. It was pretty cool. Yeah, we did a concert with Sanctus Real, David Nassar, Mike's Chair, Johnny Diaz, and we had runners going all day. Okay, and you know what everybody does when they come to Des Moines? You know what all the bands want to do? It doesn't matter who it is. They all want to go to that new mall. Really? Jordan Creek Mall. They love it. Really?

They want to just hang out in Jordan Creek. I can't stand that mall. Why? It creeps me out, I tell you. Nope. It's the dudes dressed like Mounties that get me. Yeah. They tried to kick us out once. I always think that there's going to be a Mountie, and then for some reason I feel like I should be on the alert for, like, goats. You know, like sherpas. Is that the same? Mall cop? Oh, yeah. You know, I don't mean to demean these fellas, but they're not scary. You know what I'm saying? You want to not laugh at them. Like, if they say, look, sir, you can't be on this side of the yellow line, I would say, heh, heh. You realize that's a goofy hat. You can't wear that hat. Yeah. I mean, honestly. And I'm packing, and you're probably not. I have a license.

I can. All right, Dan. See? Whoop! Let me see yours. I'm here to buy another one. Get them while you can. As soon as Obama was elected president, when I got my concealment carry license, and now I have this stash of weapons and stuff. I've never had guns in my life. It's fun. It is a blast. Try not to pry me. He's very shy about his gun ownership. Yeah, I noticed that. I have been lusting at some lately. And it has nothing to do with Obama. I mean, it's not like I'm going to use them. I mean, I'm going to care if I say that. I mean, it was just because I knew it would really annoy the liberals. So it isn't actually an intention to do something to Obama. No, no, no, no. Not at all. It's just that I thought, what would annoy liberals more than anything in the world? Guns.

Sure. So now I own some. That'll be Dan Hudson at 515. I have no threats. I have no desire to use them on people. Possibly go to break into the mall. There's a little squinty at the office I've been having my eye on. Or else. Or else. I don't have enough ammunition. He doesn't seem to care. Come back here. What was that? Times are tough. Quit pegging at me. We're hungry. The elephants are gone. So I was put in a bit of an awkward situation this week, and I'll tell you what happened. I get done. We were playing a show up in Ames for Ames on the Half Shell. And we got done or whatever, and I was getting on my way home, and I had to stop and get some gas. And I walk into the gas station, and I pull up to the counter to pay for my soda or whatnot. And there's two people who look exactly the same. Both have long hair. Both have beards.

One is named Mark. One is named Jolene. Jolene. Bummer. They have name tags. Name tags. How do you know? Okay. They're both employees. I got you. Yeah, they both work there. So here's my pickle. Here's where the conundrum comes in. I'm not looking at them because I'm doing something else, and one of them talks to me. And I think I most certainly know who's going to say this, you know? And I turn around, and I go, uh-oh. Did you say something? So here's what I did. Now, this may be wrong because I told a small falsehood. I said I left my wallet in the car. And I went outside. I pretended to rummage for my wallet, and I returned wallet in hand. That will be all. I don't know whether I did the right thing here. But I'm kind of a, if you may not have noticed, there's not much of a filter between what I'm thinking and what I'm saying.

And so for once I thought, do the right thing here, leave. Before you say something we all will regret. And then come back, and everybody's day will go on just like it should, you know? And it was weird. So Jolene had a beard. Yeah. You know, he or she was not born with that name tag on. It very well could be a dude who took Jolene's name tag from under the counter and just put it on. I will submit to you that there were mitigating factors that she was most certainly of the lady persuasion. How big was the beard? Noticeable. How big were the other features that would make you assume? They were both equally the same size, both parties involved. Well, I'd like to not go any farther into it. I'm saying it was just very awkward. I don't know what to make of it. I would, I mean, wasn't there an infinite number of things you could have done besides leaving? Like you said, I'm sorry, I didn't catch that. Did someone say something to me? And then you could have seen whose beard was moving? I mean, here's what I, here's what I. I got a bail. That's the only thing that came to your mind. The quick, the quick envisionment of what I had was going to happen was I was going to turn around and say, I'm sorry, what? And I would have heard, that'll be 383.

And then the other party involved would say, yeah, 383. In exactly the same voice. And I would be even more of a pickle than I started. I did the right thing. I'm certain of it. This was the right thing to do. Anyway, if ever faced with that, uh, with that situation, I suggest you leave. I mean, you're going to have to pay for whatever you got, but I would come, I would pretend to answer your phone. Hang on. Wait a minute. Didn't you call me within the last week telling me that you didn't have, you had actually not brought your wallet to the gas station? That did happen. This wasn't the same instance? Okay, so here's what I've done. I buy gas. I buy gas. I tend to go to gas stations where I can put a pop on the end of my gas tab because I'm not allowed to stop at the gas stations. Hold on a minute. I think that your wife is on. I buy my wife flowers at the gas station. And she doesn't like when I, you know, spend our hard-earned money, you know, just for a fruitless gift on her because she's very humble and lovely. So anyway, I go to this gas station and get some flowers. I get gas and flowers. And I've overdone her on the flowers this time. And I think, it's no big deal, you know.

So I go in there to pay for it, and I don't ever pay at the pump for this exact reason. So I whoop out the wallet, and then I go, wait a minute, and I try it again. And I go back one more time, and I say, oh, man, I don't have any money. So, unfortunately, I decide my wife is the first person to call. Mistake. Here's why. Because, not because she won't, you know, she's not a good partner in crime here. But then I have to tell her what I've done because she knows about what it costs to fill a car, and she knows about how much money I've spent on top of that. But I call, and I say, look, I need you to go find my debit card dirt in my other pants somewhere or whatever. When you get it, call me back. In the meantime, I call Ben, and I say, look, I might need you to come out and drive to this gas station and pay for this gas. He goes, well, can't I just give you the numbers over the phone? I say, yeah. Yeah, this is a great idea, you know. This is really saving me. Once again, Mike's hamster wheel don't run as fast as others. I should have left. That's what I should have done. I should have just left the gas station. But I think, okay, well, this is definitely the way to have someone come out. So eventually I called the woman back, and she gave me the number of the car and everything. And I showed up with gifts like I was supposed to, and it went over okay. But the thing is, if you're going to try to pull one over on your wife and sneak soda on top of your gas tab, you most certainly better keep your debit card on you. Yeah.

Maybe it's just better not to deceive your wife on you buying $1.50 soda. Woman, I buy $1.50 sodas. You know this. Especially when you go somewhere else and get them for like $0.52 right now. Now, Daniel, please don't talk about my price shopping. I'm very particular on the type of soda that I buy and the container that it comes in. The come and go's got $0.59 soda. Lasagna goes there. What do you got there? This might be it. I did get gas, though. Is there a gas station that you frequent? I don't even remember what it's called. I think it's a come and go at the corner of 121st and Douglas. Except, see, like you sneak $1.50 pop, I have to sneak my car wash. My husband won't let me wash my car. So I don't find a place where I can get a car wash and try to get it cheap. I don't quite feel the car all the way. Hey, me and you are going out on the town. We can get a couple things done. Popping car washes. Now, in the matter of disclosure, it's important to tell you that Al is in the room. Al Barnes is in the room. I got caught. She got caught and was willing to share it.

And you can't see him because there's not a camera on him. But it was decided that the lower half of his face looks like James Dean. So if you can get a mental image of half-faced James Dean, that's Al Barnes. Who doesn't apparently like expensive car washes. James Dean has become frugal in his upbringing. Now, you can jump in if you need to. But is the preference that you don't wash the car or that you do it by hand? Or that she does it too often? No, no, no. He doesn't actually ever want it done. He has a truck he bought brand new about six, seven years ago. Ever been washed. Never. I'm with you on that one, Al. I don't wash my rig either. I don't get that. It rains enough. I don't think I wash mine either. He waits until it rains and then he gets a broom and he sweeps the back of the bed out of the truck. You know, he figures that's a wash. Yeah. When it's new, I'll wash it. But, like, I have a Durango that I haven't washed for a long time. Especially after the hailstorm last year. There's, like, six-inch dents all over it.

It's like, eh, whatever. Well, yeah, but then you don't want to wash it because the dirt and stuff kind of packs in those dents. I don't have dents. And it fills it in. It's called the Lord's Bondo, a.k.a. dirt and water. Don't worry, hon. The Lord will fix it. Leave it be. Take care of that one. You have been listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. As a reminder, we do have Julie Barnes in the studio from the Spirit Midwest Music Festival. You can find information about the festival online at www.spiritmidwest.com. I got it? Yeah. I don't think you have to say the www anymore. Really? Nah. You just say? I get really lost and confused. Okay. You don't even have to use it anyway. Okay. Not for mine. You just type in spiritmidwest.com and you're golden? Okay.

Forget the W's. No, do it. No. Let's see how many of you are traditionalists, you know? Like, pump it in anyway. How many still throw that W in there just because that's the way it's always been? The whole thing. In fact, they give it to you right when you open the browser and you go, get out of here. I'll do this myself. I'll type in H-T-T-T-O-T-E-P, comma, slash, slash. That's me. I'm king of the web. It does get kind of annoying when you hear all these commercials, you know, and they're throwing out the website. It's like, really? You really have to say the www? I mean, I kind of, you know, you kind of get a whole worldwide web thing now, you know? It's like, yeah. Especially people with long web addresses like www.johnstanzonlargeboxes.com. That's www.johnstanzonlargeboxes.com. Used Elephant Force. Oh, there was a commercial. Sorry. We were going to tell you about it. By the way, we're getting low on boxes.

Economy's in as hard. This is a slick website, too. Sorry. I was just pulling up spiritmidwest.com. Yeah. That looks pretty nice. Thanks. Who does your web design? Actually, a guy named Chris Talberg was with, he was the drummer with Next Crossing, who was at our third year festival, and I don't know, I guess I will take it as an insult. He's a super nice guy, because he saw my website that I designed and said, let me help you. And look at that. Isn't that nice? What is this? Did an out-of-work elephant design this? Let me take a crack at it. I'm training elephants, but right now I've got some extra time. Actually, to be fair, I had an employee from the Goodwill say the same thing to me, so that was really something. About our website? About my clothing. Oh. Yeah, an employee from the Goodwill just happened to be surfing the net, find our website, point me out of a crowd and say, you need help, friend. You and your Jesus programs are going poorly on the website.

I really love the Lord, but your website is terrible. Why is he foreign? I don't know, I can't do a regular American accent, it just sounds like me talking. I can't do a good impression of me. I'm so American. So where do you find all these bands? I mean, you just walk around the street going, you know, Tate, you play guitar, are you in a band? It's Where's Waldo of band finds. Actually, there's a thing called Bash on the Farm. Who? It's a festival. It's called Bash on the Farm. Bash on the Farm. Well, I think it's a Bash-em farm, like a rock-em-sock-em. Bash on the Farm. This must be intense music. That's one of the inflatable games. Do they allow weapons? Most guitars don't make it out of it, but Bash-em. No, there's a festival called Bash on the Farm. It's held in Garner in June. And we went out to a concert, actually, to Cutlass Concert at Point of Grace several years ago, and we were going to advertise our festival. And we saw this guy set up this table, and he had all this really cool stuff, which we

didn't have. And so we went over and talked to him, and he puts on this festival up in Garner, and he brings in 40, 50, 60 bands. He has anywhere between three and five stages. And so we started talking to him, and he was a really cool guy. He's actually, he's with Do Right, and his name is John Walker. He brings the sound system for our main stage, and he gave us his spreadsheet of all the bands that he ever worked with, and then we just started emailing all the bands. You know, I got my favorites, and so we just started sending out emails. And once you get on either a booking agency or a management guy's list, everybody's emailing you. So now I get thousands of emails all the time. Everybody that's coming through. Do they send you, like, demos and stuff? Do they send you any free goods? No free goods at all? T-shirts? Can you believe it? Coasters? That's a ripoff. No, but I make them send me free stuff if they wouldn't play at the festival. Yeah. And actually, if I had a thought about it, you know, if anybody were to call in or to, like, sign in, I do have T-shirts and CDs and all kinds of stuff. I could put a little packet together.

Well, that would be great. Yeah. Because everybody that plays at the festival, if they have a CD, they've got to give me a CD and an autographed T-shirt. And just in case they make it big and you can sell it later. Exactly. Are you going to, like, have, like, a hard rock cafe type of thing, a Christian version? You'll have all their T-shirts up in the… Oh, yeah. That'd be kind of fun. Oh, yeah. We are lacking it. Do you have any place in particular that you go to enjoy live local Christian music here around town? Well, we can only see Need to Breathe in this town at People's Court. Yeah. We're working on that, but so far that's it. And I've gone down there and we've talked to the guy that runs it, but we've been down there. We've gone out to Vaudeville Muse. You know, your hard rock and screamo bands, that's about where they get to play. Or if they want to pay, they can go over to, what is it, House of Bricks. Yeah. And we've been over there. But otherwise, we actually have started doing concerts.

We do concerts every other weekend from September through end of April. We take bands from throughout the Midwest, and we've had a couple of touring bands that came through that we'd put them either into the Connections Event Center or there was a coffee shop in Ankeny. There's one up, what is it, Smoky Row Coffee. Yeah. Yeah, right there off of, oh, what is it? It's right off 235. Martin Luther King and Cottage Grove. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. And we're always looking for new venues, but you're either stuck with the smaller coffee shop size. Right. Or right now, you know, for what we can get right now is the Connections Event Center, which has actually been a lot of fun. We've done quite a few concerts there. Sure. Just about one every month since January. Well, that's cool. And they've gone off really well. Well, and actually, I think that's actually a good note, because I think a lot of people would really dig on that kind of stuff and just, you know, just don't think that it happens around here, you know?

Yeah, nobody does. I mean, is it mostly teens, 20-somethings? Actually, most of the people have come because they heard about the festival. They met us through the festival. We walk in parades. Okay, we, meaning my husband, walks in parades. It's not exactly fair. With a dirty truck. And we have actually put bands on the floats, and then I'm then, then I get to go, because I'll be on the float. Sure. But we just pass out a lot of cards, and the festival is really popular with families because it's free, you know? You can bring your whole family, and you can bring in your food and your drink, or you can buy it there. But, you know, you can really spend two days and have an awesome time for the 20, 40 bucks it'd cost to camp overnight. Yeah. So those people, you know, the families and young adults that have been at the festival, they're the first ones on the list. They're literally the first 400 people on our mailing list. And then every time we do another festival, we try to bring in, we work with a lot of local bands, because if you're a local Christian band, you either have two choices. You can play in the little coffee shop and never really get very big, not a lot of following, or you can compromise your music and play in a bar.

Now, you know, there are bands that are called to play in a bar, and that's really cool. I mean, there's actually, you know, it's a ministry, and I have no problem with that. Sure. But not all bands can do that. Right. And so we really try very hard to give them a place to play, and there's a new place in town that's just getting its licensing or whatever done. It's called The Tomb, and they have Saints Night on Friday nights, and it will eventually be every Friday night, and they run five, six bands every Friday night. On a Friday, that's pretty big time. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Well, you know, I think that's actually really, really cool. Actually, yeah. I played in a band for a long, long time, a lot of different bands, you know, and I always kind of thought that was the gig, you know, like, you know, you always end up playing in a bar, and you think, you know, is this compromising me? You know, it's not so much, you know, obviously the Lord can handle, you know, has got your back on just about anything, you know. But I mean, if you don't let them handle it, you know, you're still attuned to things that maybe you're just, you know, you're not letting the Spirit protect you from, you know. Right. And so, if you're one of those, you know, everybody's got their hang-ups, and if one

of them happens to happen at those bars, you know, maybe that's not the place for you. And actually, I'm really excited to hear that. I'm really excited to hear that. So, that's going to be really neat. Yeah, there are a couple of new places that should be coming open this fall, probably October, November. One is right downtown here, just a few blocks away. I don't know what it's going to be called yet. I like your presentation on this. Like you say, just a few blocks. Yeah. I really like how you deliver things. That really sounds pretty slick when you say it. Hey, we're looking for a salesman for our donkey farm. What do you think? I'm not so good with donkeys. How busy are you? You seem like you got your hands kind of full, but these donkeys sell themselves. But maybe after the festival's over, you know. Yeah. Exactly. Can we have a booth at your music festival? Oh, sure. What are we going to do at this booth? We're going to sell donkeys.

We're going to sell donkeys. Donkey legs. I thought we were going to be a leg. Oh, yeah. Okay. Last day of the festival. Our inventory starts to get a little low. Hey, man. They switched venues. They cook things now. Well, donkeys aren't selling well. Nothing goes home. What do you mean donkey ribcage 30 bucks? Where'd you get that? Chocolate-covered donkey ear. You don't. No, that can't be what it really is. Yeah. You're going to have to put us right next to the Rosalinds Coffees and Delights. Yeah. They compliment each other. We'll just get an and friends sign and put it right next to their sign. They'll be Rosalinds Coffees and Delights and we'll just put up and friends. Actually, that's how we'll sell the donkey. We'll threaten him.

Live donkey today. The choice is up to you. You really want to do this, friend? You're going to live with this, are you? You got in here free. I know you got money in your pocket. Buy a t-shirt from that guy and take this donkey with you. Boy, there's a lot of good names for a fresh donkey wrestler. We're going to need some land. Donkeys are being abused these days. You never see those guys on the commercials. A donkey in a cage all rolled up in a cat carrier. All I need is a senor. Don't ask me. Excuse me. Do you say buenos dias? We do need to design some donkey t-shirts, though. Oh, definitely. Put it on the list. Hey, that goes right with the live from the past show. We'll put a donkey on the path. Everybody can be on the path. Jesus wrote a donkey? What's wrong with you? What was the name of the donkey they said the Lord?

I didn't really have a name. It was donkey. It was a type of donkey, remember? Oh, no. It was supposedly the donkeys with the crosses on it. Crossback donkey? Yeah, I don't know if that's accurate or not. Where did you get that information from? I don't know. Nice. A guy that sold donkeys. A gas station? Hmm. I don't know. All right. So, anyway, we've been talking about the Spirit Midwest Christian rock music. It's not just rock music, though. It's a Christian music festival. Except for the polka. We said we didn't have a polka. I'd say at least half of it is rock. More than half of it is rock. It's half rock. But the main stage is targeted towards families and kids, and there's nothing there that's going to be too hard.

Okay. It's worship and, well, contemporary pop rock. Do you find, in what you guys do, do you find a good opportunity to minister to people who may not know the Lord as their Savior? You know what I mean? That just happen to be at the music festival for the music or, you know? Right. They're enjoying the music. And nothing's in your face, but we do have a speaker, actually, who gets up. The bands play for a set period of time, and then we've got 15-minute transitions between bands. And so for those 15 minutes, we have speakers get up, and they either will share a testimony or they'll talk about their ministry. Like, we'll have maybe Mark from the Freedom for Youth come, and he'll share about what Freedom for Youth is all about. And then at the end of every day, we have a gospel presentation in some form or another. And then, you know, it just is a good place for people who, you know, they say they're never going to go into a church, but, you know, they're sitting there and they're hearing it. And we actually had one time when it was really interesting, we had a guy that was stumbling through the park, drunk, carrying his beer, and he had a couple of people walking behind him, looked like probably, you know, based on my infinite wisdom, probably his children, and they didn't want to be seen with him. Sure. So they were following along behind him. Daniel, what were you doing there?

And he's stumbling across the park, you know, and he just kind of went through right through the middle of where everybody was sitting in front of the stage. And he gets to the other side of the park, and he goes about a half a block. And then he just turned around, and he came back, and he walked all the way across the whole crowd again, over to where the tents were and the garbage cans were, and he sat down there, and he was drinking his beer. And he kind of got a little boisterous and was being a little pushy, you know. And we had this really awesome guy. We called him our bouncer. And he went over, and he talked to the guy and just had a good time talking to him. It was nothing in his face, you know, just said, you know, you really can't do that. We're just sitting here having, listening to music. You're welcome to stay. We want you to stay. You can sit down and enjoy the music. And the guy sat back down again and threw his beer away, and he sat there for the rest of the night. That's awesome. It was really cool, you know. And all of the bands know that this is about evangelism, you know. This is either, there are, a lot of the people that are there, they already know who God is, they know Christ, you know. They're somewhere in that walk, but they can't always get closer. Oh, yeah. And so, every band is supposed to be sharing their faith, you know.

And a lot of it is through their music. My band is very unique in that almost every song we do is 100% right out of Scripture. Sure. So, you know, God's Word never returns void. If somebody's sitting there, whether he wants to hear it or not, he's getting it. And God's Word will just be churning in him. And we've seen that many times, you know. People come through, and we, this year, we're kind of off in the outskirts a little bit. We're not right in the middle of anything. So, that person that's just walking by won't be quite so common. Right. But you never know, you know. We know we've got people already, you know. We've got prayer teams that are already praying for the people that need to be there. And you've got to drive by, you know. And you get off Mill Civic Parkway, and we're just, like, right past Valley Church. A lot of traffic out there. Oh, yeah. A ton. So. A ton. And, you know, I mean, if the Lord wants them there, they'll be there. Yeah. You know, so that's awesome. Yeah.

One thing that we, I was calculating tonight before I came, not specifically to tell you here, but since I know, I'll tell you, we actually have about 238, about, you know, give or take zero, because I added it, 238 man hours of volunteers that we need for the festival. Okay. And right now, we have about 50 of them covered. Maybe 60. Okay. And this is, like, in how many weeks? Four. It's August 6th. So, it's, like, in two weeks, three weeks? It's three and a half weeks. Three and a half weeks. Yeah, but the volunteers really never commit until two, three weeks beforehand, because if you ask them any earlier, they forget anyway. Yeah, yeah. So, and they go, well, I don't know what I'm doing in August. Right. So, you know, this is about, the next two weeks is when we really push to get volunteers. What would their duties entail? Well, the inflatable village requires us to have at least seven people in there, adults, that are just monitoring what the kids are doing. Are you required to be, say, like, responsible adults, or just of age? In your case, I'm going to have to call responsible. I'd like to work the trash pickup, please.

We do have that. He's got the list. Yeah, there's a two hour by, a total of 20 hours trash pickup, right? No. Or is that two hours? Two people per hour for 20 hours. For 20 hours. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but the trash pickup, that's a really easy job. Okay, so here are the volunteer opportunities. And I guess I would say to anybody that's interested, I'd get out there and do, do you get to pick out what it is you're volunteering for? Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, I'd get out there early. Yes. Because there's a couple of these, I don't know. Yeah, because some of them are already filled. So, should I wait for the options before I said trash guy? No, I think you picked the right one for you. Can I pick two? All right, so here's what we got. We got inflatables, seven people an hour for seven hours. Is that one full? No.

Inflatables is open. Let's see. Main stage, four people an hour for 18 hours. Yep. Okay. Rock stage, four people an hour for 20 hours. Tent stage, two people an hour for 16 hours. Video photo, what's that? I need people who will take video or pictures for all the bands throughout both days. Oh, sweet. Okay. Okay, so that's three people an hour for 20 hours. That sounds like a good time to break out your stuff. It's a lot of fun, actually. Last year, this year, I'm still working on it, but we're thinking of a contest of the photos and some other graphics, because last year we had some pretty amazing things that were done with the photos. I mean, people took photos, but then, you know, they gave me the original photos, and then they gave us the stuff that they doctored, and it was really cool, you know? So we're thinking, you know, somewhere there's got to be a contest opportunity there. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds cool. Let's see, and then parking traffic. Yeah, I just need people to direct cars. We're trying to park the cars inside the campground a little bit, which is, you know, you've really

got to be careful, and you've got people walking around in there. How many people do you need for the parking and traffic? Two people an hour for 20 hours. Yeah, I was going to say. I don't know about that job. Do you have vests? Orange vests? People get snipey with the parking lot. No, but if you volunteer for enough hours, you get a shirt. You see, like, 50 free open spaces over here, and this guy's, like, waving you a different direction. You're going here. It's like, no, I'm going here. I really want to go over there, man. I want to go there. You're going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do it if I didn't have to wear the vest. Did you fight with the Adventureland guy last week? I actually parked across the street and walked over, so I wouldn't have to pay the $5 parking fee. Because he knew he'd fight with the Adventureland guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I tell you, I almost got in a small tussle at the Adventureland. I'm going to tell you what happened. This is where this toenail thing came from. This is what made me think I should grow this toenail out. Just that toenail. So the older I get, the more I disassociate myself with teenagers, and we've talked about this, how I'm always worried that they're going to, like, you know, beat me up and steal stuff from me. Like, so, so I got my, I got my two-year-old daughter, and we're going on that, on the water slides, you know, the little kids' water slides, you know, she's not digging it. She don't like the water hitting her face. She can't hold her breath yet, you know, but she meets the height requirement, you know, so I'm like, well, I'll go, you know, on the slides with her. You can't, you can't two tamale down the slides. They won't allow it. So she's got to go down by herself. So, two tamale. I was trying to figure out what that meant. You can't. Yeah, never mind. Don't go there. Are you with me? Yeah, you can't have two people go down at the same time. Yeah, you can't, you can't. Yeah.

Two tamale, peas in a pod. Are you with me or what? I'm with you. I'm there. Okay. So anyway, anyway, not allowed. So I'm carrying her around, trying to find a slide she can get to, and I look up, and this water slide is equipped with, like, little blue hoses so the people above can, like, spray other people. And there's these two hoodlums. And I look up at them, and I can see them, and I say, I know hoodlums when I see them. These are a couple of hoodlums. So I look up, and I'm holding my little girl, who is not having a good time. I'm doing my best to try to find her something to do, and they look at me, and I say, just like, I said, nah. And they say, and I just kind of shook my head, and I said, like, just don't do it. You know, I don't want this to be an issue. So we get past them, and then they drench her. Shoot her right in the face. And I put her down, and I said, you stay here. And then I thought, we better go. Two times this week, I bolted. I made the good decision to pick her up and split. That's pretty tough when someone goes after your child. I was really mad.

And I thought, I should grow my toenails super long, and I'm going to get you. You just wait. Nah. I was really mad, and I thought, this ain't the time. This is just not the time. So I left. Yeah, because then you go to jail because they're kids, and it's just awkward. You know, odds are, I mean, this kid could probably bench press me and threw me under a bus, but I was pretty mad. I don't know if righteous anger is enough to go after this 15-year-old child, but I didn't do it. I thought, this is not the time. It worked for the Hulk. But I was really mad. I was really mad. Actually, I was telling the woman this week that you should have, you should be able to, I'm trying to think of the best way to put this, hit a child three times a year. It's born out of this circumstance here, is when I'm driving, trying to get back to my house, and you get these gang of dullards on a bike, they're going to roll out in the middle of the road and kind of doze you around and do what they want, and they look back and they see you, and then they go farther in the road, and there's like, there's two of them that think they're really slick, and there's the one guy who legitimately can't keep up. He's sweating like a pig. You can see his butt crack.

James Dean didn't have that problem, Al. I'm sorry. That wasn't mine, though. So, like, that guy's actually trying to get out of the road. He's giving it a shot. The other two are just like dancing around, and then they get off the road, and you drive by, and they're yelling something, you know, inexplicable, you know, or they're waiting for the bus. I'm trying to go to work, and they're just standing out there playing chicken with a car because they know I can't hit them. And you know what? Just once. If you could just tag him one time, he wouldn't be out there like that. They don't learn a healthy respect for things like that because you can't hit them. Just like the kid, you know, could throw a snowball at your car. What are you going to do? Like, the thing to do seems like you should stop and get out, but you can't teach them a lesson. What are you going to do to him? Don't throw that snowball. He's just going to hit you with another one in the face while the sweaty kid's eating the snow. Bill, where's the other snowball? Oh, anyway, I think I should get three a year, and I would have used all three of them in the same road trip about three days ago because there were three goofs right in the

middle of the road, toddling around, doing their, so one guy turns around, sees me, and then wheelies up and keeps right, like he's on a bike show. Yeah. I should, I could have hit them all. I mean, going five, well, they would have survived. They might have needed a new tire or whatever, but I could have just kind of clocked them a little, you know, prayed as I went by. You could just open the door. Prayed as I went by. Lord, help them not to do dumb things. There's no way. If they really learn a lesson from this. I don't see anything about bicycles. I'm sorry it had to be me. Not that sorry. There was a real problem with bikes and kids at Thessalonica. That's right. This is where I get my teaching. Anyway, three a year. Three a year. Is that too much? Pray on it. I can't answer that question. Lord, how do you feel about three a year? I'm going to keep praying until I feel something.

Bad news. Lord came back with zero. I think I asked. Actually, scripture does say to beat him with a rod. What did I tell you about that? Just keep that in your car. Does that mean a tire iron? He stands out in the garage until three in the morning. What are you doing out there? Painting my Jesus rod. It's almost ready. That should be pretty funny. The kids in the neighborhood get used to it. Whenever you hit the brakes on your car and start getting out, they're like, oh no, he's coming at us with the gospel. They start running away. He's got that Jesus rod. Kids do have guns. That's true. I don't think these kids have guns. And I know the sweaty kid does. He doesn't have anywhere to keep it. His pants were falling down. I would have been able to see it. I would have been able to see it.

Nothing concealed there. Wait while I catch my breath and then I'm going to get out my piece. I'm late for my job at the gas station. Me and my lady friend. Jolene with the beard. I don't know. I can't decide whether this is appropriate. When you were telling that beard story, there is a lady that I run into from time to time. Let me ask a question before you get any further. Is this possibly like a medical condition? Like the ladies that grow beards? Sure. That's a legitimate issue, right? It is. There's some people that just, like all ladies don't grow beards the same. And one of them just lets it go for a while and says, I'm tired of this. I'm just trying to hint, right? No, no, no, no. I don't care about that. No, I'm pretty sure you're on the up and up. I think everything's fine. There could be someone in transition. Okay. So I know. I don't know.

They can get married. They're going to have state-sponsored surgeries. I kind of get the Jesus rod out and I can't decide what to do. Okay. So I run into a sick woman every once in a while. And I'll put it this way. She has enough to twirl. She could hatch a medieval plan if need be. There's enough there to style or get food in. In fact, had I been close enough to this woman with the drumstick, it might have been her. Got a little sweet corn today, I see. It's like a wine glass holder for drumsticks. Anyway, it's unfortunate. And I feel bad because I am hoping that it's a medical condition. Otherwise, she's just totally given up on it. Okay. Now, here to be fair, in all seriousness, I thought about this because I couldn't tell whether I was being cruel with this story. But the truth is what I thought of is if I was this woman and I had this condition, I would immediately think, as soon as I got on the path to God, I would think, why has the Lord saddled me with this? It's such an odd problem. It's just a socially awkward problem. Not like I'm missing a leg or I have to overcome a mental disorder. You know what I'm saying? It's just a socially awkward problem. And obviously, if I would ask you, did the Lord sack me with this problem or did he just know I was going to have it and knew what struggles I would have? You know what I'm saying?

If I was him, I would really struggle with that. What do you want me to learn from this beard? I mean, what am I? I guess. I don't know. I don't know. For some reason, I really did think about it. Like, you know, I just don't know, you know, like, I mean, obviously, he doesn't set it out for you. Like, you're going to have a beard. Good luck, lady. Who was that gal or somebody who was like a runner that was so fast they thought that this person is obviously a guy, so they tested her. Oh, yeah. It was like in a different country. Like a Nigerian woman. Someone from South Africa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, what does that do to you? Yeah. No kidding. How's the old self-esteem there? And they, like, she was, the result was she's a woman, right? As I recall, it was just in the news again later. Yeah. Well, and I remember reading a story, and they had, like, interviews with her family and stuff. And, boy, that's got to be awkward because, I mean, it's not really a long conversation.

You know, we think she might be a dude. She's not a dude. You know, we were thinking that she might be a dude. Like, I don't know what else to talk about, really. Actually, the lady that was doing the trapeze at the circus was fairly certain. She's a very broad shoulder. You know, like if she had squirted me with the hose on the water side, I'd let it go. So, I'm telling you. And then she was like, whoop. And I was like, guppies. That was crazy. I wouldn't go. It's not a great. The guy who did the ring leading looked like William Shatner, though. I thought he was going to announce himself as William Shatner. And when he didn't, I thought he was a fraud. I thought William's having a hard time getting work. You're a fraud. He ended up at the circus because it was hard times for Shatner. I didn't know. And then he just didn't want to admit. Yeah, and then he's like, you know, I'm Steve, the circus guy. The price line thing didn't work out. That's where they shipped him. Yeah, they said, that's it, Shatner.

You're out of here. He's going to look like a guy. Who? Are you looking at the Nigerian one? The South African runner, Castor Semanea, won the world championship. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, if she grew her hair out, she'd probably look more like a guy. Wait a minute. Al, what's going on over there? Don't go there, honey. Ben, monitor, Daniel. I've got this covered. We're going to cut away from… Wait, no, I have more. I'm only slowly turning the music up, Dan. You probably got 10 seconds to fit in anything else. That's really all I got. Okay. So you've been listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. We've been visiting with Julie Barnes on the Spirit Midwest Music Festival going on, let's see, Friday, August 6th from 5 to 11 p.m. Saturday, August 7th, 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. is at Jordan Park Camp, 2251 Fuller Road in West Des Moines. There are a ton of bands. There's 40-plus bands. There's lots of vendors out there, including Roseland's Coffees and Delights. It will be next to our donkey stand and friends.

She hasn't agreed to this yet, but I think we can convince her over a break. This donkey stand is going to come out. There are a ton of volunteer opportunities. Yeah, there's a ton. Get in early so you don't end up in the parking traffic or trash areas, unless you really dig on that stuff. If you look good and orange and like dealing with people, that parking area is for you. Plus, you get in free if you volunteer. Prayer coordinator. Prayer coordinator? Yeah. Okay. What are the responsibilities of the prayer coordinator? Well, primarily just to make sure that there's always the people that are on the prayer list or in the prayer tent. We try to keep at least six people in the prayer tent all day and night for the festival. And we have signs up, you know, people know where to go if they need any prayer. And the people that are in the tent are praying for the needs of the day. Okay. So it's just kind of making sure that it all happens. That prayer tent sounds awesome. Yeah. It is really awesome. Did you know about how many this venue can hold? I mean, how many people can get in there comfortably without, you know, like rats? Oh, actually, we could hold at least 15,000. Really?

That'd be pretty cool. I don't expect 15,000. I'm not prepared for 15,000 with 238 volunteers. Put me in a prayer tent, Daniel. But, you know, God can do that for me. You're going to have, like, people parachute in? Well, actually, we're going to have some skydiving. Really? No. You should. Are you volunteering? Michael can do it. You guys can throw the donkey. I'm not qualified to be in the prayer tent, but I will certainly. That's going to get pricey if that goes afoul. However, it will take a lot of the work out of the food preparation. Can we do donkey bingo when you set up the big thing and you're walking the donkey around wherever it goes? You know, we'd really like to let more people in, but there's been a 50-yard donkey bingo board set up in the back. Sorry. And for the lifeless, we can't convince them to shut it down. That's not even a donkey. I'm pretty sure that's an elephant. So we're going to need some volunteers for feeding the donkeys. We're going to need three an hour for 20 hours. Yeah.

I'm going to put that slightly below the parking, but just above the trash. Yeah. Yeah, but you'll have to increase the trash then if you've got the mini donkeys. I'd say the trash people can do double duty. I don't. Yeah. Just get them in. They'll love the place. They'll stay. They'll keep picking up garbage. Exactly. Oh, I guess. So to talk back to what we talked about just a minute ago, if you're the smelly person and you don't want people to know, be on the trash volunteer. Then people would just think the trash stinks. I'm serving Jesus. Yeah. If you're down with showers, the trash volunteer position is for you. Yeah, agreed. People go, whoa, man. You're like, I know. I volunteered to do trash at the Christian festival so that you could have a clean environment. They'll say, God bless that stinky man. I'm going to talk about him in the prayer tent. Does this happen rain or shine?

Oh, yeah. I figured so, but I thought I'd say it out loud. Two of the stages are covered, and the main stage. Good luck on the third one. The main stage, yeah. They have to spend for themselves. We have that jazz dude over there on the third stage. We might have some donkey pelts available. We could probably build a shanty of sorts. We could suspend some elephants. There you go. Good stage. A human roof. That would be poignant. Uncomfortable. Especially if a trash man wants to get involved. The fifth year. Does it grow each time? Oh, yeah. I mean, I suppose it would. Just kind of get some momentum going. Yeah, this is actually our first year having two days, three stages, hard rock. So before, when you said who comes, it's been a lot of families and young adults and stuff, but this year, definitely the kids are going to overflow the place because the whole hard rock stage is just there. Mike, there's going to be some Jolene's there.

I'm going to grab my Mountie buddies and we're going to head over. Keep the peace. If you see a sudden increase in attendance, you can always think life in the past. Absolutely. By sudden increase, you mean like 10? 11? We'll leave that up to your definition. I'm going to pray on it, though. That's definitely going on in prayers. This festival sounds fantastic. I'm going to hang up by that prayer tent. You know, I'd like to see a prayer tent up anyway. Just anywhere. Like I could swing by during the day. They're just a prayer tent up and about. I was going to talk about this when we started talking about prayer, but I remember one time at church I was talking to Olsen about he does real estate, like commercial real estate in Des Moines. And I'd like to do just sort of like a revolving prayer building open, you know, on a monthly basis. Just move it. Once a month, just move it somewhere else. Just keep it open. Like a speakeasy. Like a speakeasy that gets shut down and we have to underground it. In California, actually, somebody did a drive-in prayer thing where they just had a little booth,

like a vacant coffee place that they just let people come drive in, give their prayer request, get a prayer. I love it. Nice. All right. I'd like to give a penny, take a penny jar. You can give a prayer, but you're going to have to take one with you. And then you get the real superficial guy and you end up having to pray that his new fedora starts to wear in better than he expected. Oh, come on. It's just not looking right. It's a little spicy. I told you I don't do a good American accent. Dan, if you were to try to represent somebody that is an American, how would you do it with it not in your own voice? That wears a fedora. Oh, man. It sounds just like him. Exactly. See? I'm it. You are Joe American? I am Joe American. I don't know how to be anybody else. And they wonder what direction this country is going. The new Joe. Joe the pastor.

Stay off the cameras. You embarrassed us after the first couple weeks. Well, that's what I do. I made it a couple weeks. Yes. All right. That was spiritmidwest.com. We'll be talking about it in the coming weeks as well. I'm hoping to be able to get hold of any of these bands that are local that might want to come in. And we can support a minor acoustic set in here. So I'd love to have some of them on. Yeah, I got a lot of them that could do that. So, you know, I'd like to have… We're going to try to get that set up here in the next two or three weeks to get some of them in. Set them outside the window. We could. That might seem a little impersonal. Well, we can look at them. Thanks for coming. Please stand outside the glass with no amplification or video. Okay. What do you guys wear, this donkey outfit? And you still have that inflatable bull? I still have it in the office. All right.

We're going to… Do you still have the inflatable bull? Yes. As a matter of fact. This is going great. Exactly. It's going to have gone any smoother. Head of the PR campaign, Daniel. All right. Again, spiritmidwest.com. Please check it out. The website's really cool. It's got a lot of cool information. You can sign up for volunteer stuff on the website, right? Yep. And you can sign up on our email list so you can find out all the concerts we're doing all year round. Sweet. Sweet. You can sign up for the email list. That sounds cool. Yeah. I was perusing it. It looks like there's a lot of cool bands out there, so check it out. You can visit the individual pages of the bands to check them out. You may have heard of some of the bands.

You may not have. I don't think that doesn't speak at all to the quality of the band if you've never heard of it. I mean, all the bands that you know, you didn't hear of at some point or another. Exactly. Right? So it's time to get out there, check them out, support the live local Christ Following music. Are you on Facebook, too? I am. Do you have like an event? Well, yeah, but you know, I'm Facebook challenged. Why aren't we friends? I tried every way I could to make a Spirit Midwest page on Facebook, but I have a group page, and I have a band page, and they're all linked to my page. I'm Jules Barnes. J-E-W-E-L-S Barnes. Facebook it. J-A-R-N-E-S. Got it. You can friend me, and then I'll suggest my pages to you. As soon as we get a Spirit Midwest Facebook page enough, we will post the link on the website so you guys can get to that, too, so you know where you're going. All right, so we're going to take a five-minute break. Thanks so much for being with us. You listened to Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. Yeah, Dan.

We're heading back on. You gave me like a five-minute warning, Daniel. I told you it was coming. You mean now? You've been listening to Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. What is going on in the chat? What are you guys talking about? Are you guys eating during the break? Is that what this Doritos and Ruby Red Grapefruit Juice, Haagen-Dazs Bar, Milk Chocolate with Omens, is that what's going on over here? Because, I mean, we don't have any food here. I have an ill-gotten soda. We have yet to get any cinnamon rolls from Holiday Inn Express. Yeah, you know, they're just too pricey. I want some. Holiday Inn Express does cinnamon rolls? Oh, man. You guys got to get out more often. Are you kidding me? Dan, they spend their time organizing a fabulous music festival. They don't have time to frequent a local hotel for cinnamon rolls. Jesus was born in an inn. Actually, you know what? The local hotels put up all of our artists for free. No kidding.

Can we say we're artists? No kidding. Yeah, it's the Wildwood Lodge, Comfort Suites, the Holiday Inn, the Radisson. Wait, Holiday Inn Express, though? Not the Express. Can we sneak in and get rolled? Why does it the regular Holiday Inn have the good rolls? I walk in with a guitar where they'll just assume I'm part of the band. I think you've tried that before. No, that ain't going to work. Sorry. Like when you led worship at the children's camp. Yeah, that was a little awkward. All right, still with us in the studio is Julie Barnes from the Spirit Midwest Music Festival at spiritmidwest.com. Just throwing it out there so you guys know we're still only looking at me. Totally unintentional. Hey, Ben. Boy, I think I might have gone digging for a second there. I thought I was off camera. Oh, look at me. Look at me. What a bummer. Okay. Popcorn.

Wait. So that's what's going on? Everyone's eating? Popcorn, Weight Watchers, chocolate ice cream? Is that both? You're eating both popcorn and Weight Watchers chocolate ice cream? Who's that, Mike? What are you asking me? I'm just saying. I know. I can take a guess on the popcorn. I didn't really. No, I think the same person. Do we have ice cream? We've got like a theater popcorn popper in our basement. Really? Yeah. You've seen it. I love popcorn. Oh, yeah. I have seen it. Yeah, thanks for caring. I love it. I've memorized all the items in your house. When were you guys over?

You brought it up to the Ministry Center. Remember when we were going to start holding live concerts in our house building? And then we didn't come up with bands, a correct venue, any way to park, and any type of way to facilitate it. But then you brought up the popcorn machine, which we were halfway there. We could sell popcorn at the festival. You know what we're going to sell? There you go. I don't have a popcorn vendor. Okay. What? Al's already booked one. Dinky Diner sells popcorn? And friends. The Dinky Diner sells everything. Hey. Never goes hot dogs. We're going to sell something. Are these all local places? We're going to sell those icicle popsicles. The vendors? Icicle. Okay. Hold on a second. Let me finish the question with Julie, and then we're going to talk about the pickle

sickle. We've got to raise money for our sound system. Okay. All right. So, Julie, are these all local vendors? Everyone except for Rosalinds, actually. She's out of Illinois. She heard about our festival on the internet and just wanted to come out. It's a Christian coffee house, and we've actually had a hard time finding a Christian coffee vendor to come out, and not that we're opposed to non-Christian coffee vendors, but we haven't been able to get. Well, what happens? You call them up, and they're- They don't do portable units. Oh. They don't. We had one that said they would- That's the gig, man. They would brew up a whole bunch of espresso and just bring out a card table and kind of mix some stuff up there, but that doesn't quite fly, especially if you've got a lot of people in there at once wanting something. Not for that finicky hard rock crowd. That's right. That's right. I need some scouting hot joe because there's trouble.

So, Rosalinds is actually coming a long way. I cut my toenails. I got nothing. Okay. Well, let's say we're going right next to the heavy hitter coming from Illinois. That's right. The donkey dealer next to the Rosalinds Coffees and Delights. I'm going to have to go and ask for the delights. I'm pretty excited for it. Did you- Now, wait. Have you had- Have you- Did you go test it out? No. Oh. I haven't yet. Al, didn't you vouch for the cinnamon rolls earlier? But not from the coffee vendor. Oh. Okay. So, do you do snow cones? Okay. I'm sure they're delightful. I just-

Snow cones, yes. I'm interested. Yum does snow cones. Oh, somebody does it. Yeah. Actually- I'm really getting pretty depressed. I think we should really do those pickles- You could probably do snow cones. Those pickled popsicles. You could do snow cones. Pickle- Pickle-sickles. Didn't you try those? Yeah. Pants made them. Oh, yeah. They're pickle juice. Dinky Diner does fried pickles. Yeah, but not- No, we're on the other end of the spectrum, boys. We just take the juice. I'm not going to tell you our recipe. Oh. But we make pickle popsicles, and they are-

Pickle-sickles. Delightful. I can't say it as effeminate as Ben says it. I'd like the delights. I can't- I don't know how to say it. Do I- Shoot. Give it- Okay, give it a shot again. I'll do a man- I'll do a man meter. Go ahead. A manly meter. Hit it. I'm supposed to- Like, do I need to over-manize it, or try to do it the way I did earlier? No, do it how you normally do it. Completely to the right is manly, and very lefty is- Not manly. Not manly at all. Okay, go ahead. Okay, ready? All right, hold on. Okay.

I like the delights. Really? Hold on, hold on. I like the delights. Give me the delights. Yeah. Okay. That was everything I thought it would be and more. Yeah. Better flag the tape. That's it. That's going on YouTube right there. That's 20 seconds worth of gold. That's a new sensation. Sure, I'll tolerate this Jesus talk if we get more of that man meter. Try it out, Steve. Who's Christian's got that cool deal with the arm and the meter in jazz? Come here, a chunk of that donkey meat. Donkey jerky. Two item in Thessalonica. The man meter. We're going to need this prayer thing we've been threatening. So I was getting to that. We're going to do questions. If anybody has any questions or anything you guys wanted to talk about, we're ready for them.

So go ahead and post them up on the chat and we'll see if we can get to them. In the meantime, Dan, there is interest about your meeting with Newt Gingrich earlier today. Yes. Yes. That was a clever segue that I really concocted and then you kind of just let fall on the ground. Hang on. I can hear there's a lot of interest. Hey, do the man meter on Dan. Go ahead. Yes. It's broken. It's confused. It was really kind of a cool thing. There was a big event going on in Des Moines. Newt was here most of the day. He had a breakfast with a fundraiser for Zahn. He had some big pastor thing going on at the Marriott that started at like noon or something. Well, like half hour before that, he met with like a handful of – there was like ten of us, I think. And how did you select group? I'm a pretty select guy. I think you saw my tie and said, you. You. It was the shirt. It was the shirt. You see what I'm going to do here?

That's a unique color. I'm going to back out of this conversation completely as to not get myself in trouble. That is awesome. Oh, it was one of those, you know, it's not what you know is who you know. It's a friend of a friend thing and they called and said, hey, we want you to do this. And I said, sure, I'll do that. But so there was about ten of us and we waited a while. It was about a half an hour later than we expected and he comes busting into this room. It was the Waterloo room, as I recall, third floor of the Marriott. You can check my facts. See, I have it down. Anyway, we're in there and a big conference table and he pops in and he has his staff guys going over them. So it was kind of an entrance, you know, and shakes our hands. Hey, hey, how are you doing? How are you doing? You didn't say that to Newt, did you? I said, how are you doing? It's good to meet you. How are you doing? That's gross. Man meter. The man meter is going all the way down. I said it was good to meet you, Mr. Speaker. And he said it's better to meet you. He did not say that either.

But he did have a nice snack. I can't remember. He said it was a nice cordial, you know, blah, blah, blah. I meet people all day long. What happened at your meeting? Oh, you want to know about that? You know, and, you know, I mean, everybody knows he's thrown out feelers, you know, to run for president. And he threw out some of the couple major issues hitting our country right now. And basically saying, you know, we're going to need to attack these or just give up. I mean, I don't want to put words in his mouth, you know, how well I listen and how detail oriented I am. There was something along the line of here's a couple of big things. I'm like, yeah, two, two big things. That's two. Anyway, and it was really kind of cool because I've always kind of liked Newt because he's like an attack dog. He's not the guy who sits in the room and says, well, I don't know, whatever you guys think, you know. And so that part of him I really like. And so he's just kind of one of our opinions on, you know, some stuff from the Christian community. You know, what's the Christian perspective on this? I mean, he has a past. He has not been a perfect guy, morally speaking, like myself. No, I haven't either. No, like me. Like Ben has been pretty well perfect. Like, no, no, like I've, I've, yeah. I've seen today, definitely.

Probably on the way in. I don't know. I did too. I don't think I can be in this room with you. I think you better stay. But, you know, he's concerned, you know, how do you think people respond, that kind of thing. And it was a good thing. It was kind of cool because I got there early enough I could meet some of the people in there. And I want you to picture Clark Kent. Get your picture of Clark Kent. Not Superman, but Clark Kent with the big glasses and the suit and kind of the hair. I have him in my mind. Okay. And add about 15, 20 pounds. Okay. Okay. And here's a guy across the table from me. How was the poundage allocated? Pretty evenly. Okay. I mean, he had a suit on, so I couldn't really tell. Understood. But he just had a little more face than Clark Kent because, you know, he puts on, takes off the glasses and Superman. But here's this guy, and he's got his little paper, his legal pad, and he's had all these notes all over it. And right away, it's like, dude, you think you're pretty special, don't you?

And he has Newt's book sitting next to him. Oh, no. What a cheese ball. And everybody who comes in, he makes sure and introduces himself. Hi, my name's Joe Blow, and yeah, I'm here, and I have a Ph.D. in history, you know. And I'm like, no, I really don't know who you are, and I really don't care what your degree is. And he tried, just everybody who came in, you know, one time just totally tried to dominate the conversation. And he seemed like, you know, a nice enough guy. Oddly enough, he was in between churches. And the last church he tried out for. You mean there's no room for the Lord and your ego in the same building? Exactly. Last church just didn't work out that he had just tried out for. You know, and I'm, you know, wow, really, that's unusual that people would find you maybe slightly someone they wouldn't want to hang around with. But, and then Newt, you know, Newt comes in, and of course now Newt's the center of attention. And this guy had strategically planned it, so if Newt was to sit down, he'd probably have to sit next to him. And, look at this, so he's down next to him, which happens to be a cross from me. What did he have, like, various articles of clothing saving seats for himself around Newt? Oh, no, I'm sorry, that's my sock. Excuse me, that's my ass. I mean, you can tell he just totally coordinated this whole thing. He got there before. The plan was we were supposed to meet at a certain location. Well, he got there first and found out where he was supposed to ultimately go. So he got the first seat.

So that he was facing everyone who came in the door like, oh, let me be the welcoming committee, you know. Well, that sounds like a well-prepared man. I think I enjoy his company. Oh, yeah, he was absolutely, very well-prepared, very organized, and very much liked to talk. And so then Newt made the mistake of opening up, what do you guys think? After he'd given his spiel, you know, here's these two things, and this blob is really important, it's critical in our nations, you know, and we need to really, the next five elections are huge, and that type of stuff. Well, one guy says some stuff, oh, that's really cool, some good stuff. And then Kent, you know, Clark Kent, says, well, well, I'm really glad you brought this up, Newt. And as your book says here in the, you know, I'm going, dude, I mean, total brown noser, you know. Well, he also had a big manila, or, you know, envelope, what do you call those? Those envelopes, full-size envelopes, with Newt Gingrich written on it in huge writing. Oh, no, no, the Newt file, he brings it with him. And he had made sure to tell us all, well, this is information about me, I'm going to get to Newt. Oh, wait a minute, so it was a file with Doug that's going to Newt? Just in case Newt needed somebody. And so, you know, anyway, he says this, and he's just talking, and everybody in the room is like, how do we shut this guy up, you know, and the staff behind Newt, or behind me, looking at Newt, because, like I said, I'm right in front of him, and they're like, we've got to go, because his next thing was like in 15 minutes, he had to speak for the big, huge crowd, you know. And it was just hilarious. And finally he kind of showed up, well, okay, and we kind of went on, you know, to the other people in the conversation. Now, I don't know how often this happens.

Like, how often would you say that you get together with a group of, like, pastors, or leaders of churches? Oh, periodically. Is there once a month? I guess what I would wonder is if there was, like, if Newt or anybody, for that example, it would throw something out there if there would be any level of dissension amongst, you know, the leaders. Sure. I mean, especially in this group, these were just random people throughout the state that they wanted to come in that would represent, you know, like, the state. So there were different denominations, different people. It tended to be conservative because it was a Republican thing, and Newt's a pretty conservative guy. Although this guy was from an extremely liberal church, but he was pretty conservative for the church. Right. I know a lot about him. I could tell you more. But even within the group, you know, it was an interesting conversation. I mean, I don't know. Did you maybe – were you not surprised by anything that Newt had said, but from the answers that anyone else in the room had given? But I can't tell you that – I'm like, I can't quote anybody. There was a guy to my right that had some really good stuff to say. I can't tell you at all. I was just going to go, like, I'm sitting next to Newt. Right. That's what I was thinking.

Take his hand right out of your hand. I won't clean this hand for a while. And I have to say I really enjoyed – the best part was when he did pull Newt aside and give him his – his envelope. He goes, Newt goes, well, what's this? Well, this is some information about me. And Newt looked at me like – For real? He gave it to a staff guy. And I'm going – Dude. You know, it would have been great if Newt would have said, I don't know if you know this, but I'm Newt. Yeah. And I don't really care who you are. And you're a folder. I'll see you. And I shouldn't make fun of the guy, but that was hilarious. That was just total – I could just see it was the high school guy who would raise the hand and say, uh, dude, you've got to give us homework, you know. That was this guy? That was this guy. I'm going, man. The guy had some really good, honest questions and really wanted input. We could have given more input if he wasn't there talking about himself to Newt and about, you know,

whatever he wanted Newt to hear him say. Right. Like maybe – like the most maybe annoying part of it is he might be missing the broader purpose of the meeting, which is not, you know, a self-glorification to Newt. Newt wasn't hoping he could find his next staff guy. Right, like he wouldn't know really what's the religious community thinking. Let's say if I, Newt, who would be similar to, say, David, who kind of hooked up with Bathsheba, you know, on his third wife now, what's the church going to say? Because the left hates him. I mean, he is a lightning rod. And they're going to throw everything at him possible. I mean, they're going to do everything to make him look like the biggest vile, evil, horrible thing. And is the church going to stand up and say, that's right, he is evil, vile, wicked. Or is the church going to say, hey, you know what, he – you know, what's he going to – I suppose as long as the church stands up and says everybody's the same, you know, then I guess that's probably true, you know. I don't know. I mean, I don't know Newt from anybody. I never met the man David. There is grace. There is forgiveness. Yeah, I mean, you know. Exactly. I mean, we don't – yeah, I mean, exactly. So, I don't know.

I mean, it wasn't as big of a deal as I had hoped it had been and we had more time. And if Superman wasn't there, it would have been kind of cool. He would have been making it on his job interview, you know, that would have been even better. But it still was kind of cool. It was a neat experience. Not bad. And I think he called me later. Superman did? No, Newt. No, he did not. He said, you kind of stuck out to me. I wish you had a folder. Yeah. He said, you kind of stuck out. Where do you buy your shirts? I need a guy with a shirt like that on my staff. If you had a folder, I would have jumped. In case I marry again, you can divert him. I was going to invite him to come onto the show tonight. And there wasn't, you know, the opportune time. Because, you know, obviously he does this stuff all the time. I mean, even today he had multiple meetings, you know, and so his staff's pretty good at protecting him from people like Superman over there who's trying to get a job at, you know, and I didn't want to get anything from him. I was hoping this would be an opportunity for him to say, hey, here's where I come from.

This is what I'm thinking. And it'd be on the internet and it'd be something that could spread. But I didn't have that opportunity to have that conversation with him. That's fair. I do believe he's on the chat tonight under the name Big Newt. Yes. Awesome. I love you, Newt. Well, good. Interesting meeting with Newt to Newt Gingrich. Yeah, it was really pretty neat. I mean, yeah. Very cool. I was hoping to get the resume from that guy, though, because, you know, we're looking for another guy. Sure. Line him up. We can always use more. You can clean the donkeys. Yeah. Need someone for the donkeys. So one of the things that we were actually talking about last week that we said we'd like to get in for this week is the topic of prayer. We talked a little bit about the 24-7 prayer room. And, you know, one of the things that I've been thinking this week when I was thinking

about prayer is a lot of the misconceptions I had about prayer for the longest time. And I think some of those misconceptions ended up being a barrier between God and I because, you know, it didn't enrich the relationship that you could have with Jesus Christ. Christ, it just enriched the formality of following a religion. And so, you know, one of the things that I thought would be real interesting to kind of walk through is maybe breaking down some of the barriers of what folks may have for prayer. I know, you know, almost all the stories where you have a person who's been running from God for a very long time, it changes when they start talking to God, right? And it's not like you go to the encyclopedia and you look up prayer and say, here's how I talk to God so I can whip this stuff around, right? It's, you know, the most effective prayer is the you can't do anything else but drop to your knees and just start talking. And that's just as much prayer as, you know, whatever it is, you know, you memorized in Sunday school. It's just as much prayer as to, you know, whatever, you know, the oldest person in your family does before the Thanksgiving dinner for eight minutes, whatever it is, you know. And so, you know, one of the things that I've gotten, I've really focused on is losing some of the formalities of my prayer life. Like, for example, I used to, whenever we would go out to eat, I would always insist that we pray before we eat while we're out there. And it was shallow because I'm not in a great habit of praying before I eat at home. I just don't. Like, sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't.

And doing it out, I think I always wanted it done in the restaurant because I wanted to make the point that I am not specifically not praying because I'm in public. I don't mind praying in public at all, right? But it was a show to a certain extent. I wasn't, you know, talking to God. I wasn't, you know, I was just going through the wording of it. You know, I always would feel guilty if I woke up in the morning and realized that I had forgotten to pray before I went to bed. That's not ungodly. You know, like the things where I think, oh my, what have I done? I'm supposed to pray before meals and before I fall asleep. And that's what I'm supposed to do. And if I didn't do all those things, I'm farther away from God. But I mean, what's more likely is that I didn't do it right before I went to bed. I've been talking to him all day. You know, it's not like I'm out of stuff to say to God. But I mean, I'm talking to him all day. He doesn't, you know, get the checklist out and say, Ben Foost, he forgot to, I saw him hit the pillow and there was a 10 minute span there where he wasn't sleeping. Where's the dear Jesus? I was waiting on it. Put Ben down for no dear Jesus. And it's after 10. You know, and so, you know, that was one of the things I was thinking about, about barriers to prayer.

And it's, I don't, I think I've, I've personally been able to come a long way in the way I think about prayer by, by getting rid of some of the misconceptions of what God expects and just engaging in a relationship with Jesus Christ through the day and talking to him. And, you know, and that's, that's the prayer. So actually, I kind of had a really, uh, the same experience, uh, recently about that. Um, and actually I found myself praying a lot more during, uh, everyday situations, you know, like not making it into a, a big hairy deal, you know, not every prayer is a drop to your knees prayer, you know, not every prayer is a bang your head against the wall. Lord, I failed you again, you know, uh, there's certainly times for that. There's certain times that I, those need to come out. Um, but, uh, you know, I, I, I found it that, you know, I can keep my walk with Christ as a walk and not a standstill when I just take little steps throughout the day. You know, like, Lord, I know it's coming, you know, just get me out of the way for this one. I do. I pray for that a lot. Get me out of the way. Get me out of the way. Get me out of the way. Get me out of the way. You know, get me out of this gas station. Get me out of this circus. Sounds like that's a really good prayer for you to be praying to. It is. And you know what?

Most of the time he does it. The times that I don't listen, I'm in there. That'll get you out. But, uh. That was an angel. Yeah. It was my grandpa doing it. Look at this. Um, but, uh, um, yeah, you, you know, and, uh, you know, I'm sure we'll talk about this when you do the 24-7 prayer room, but, um, prayer, you know, when I was a kid and when I was a teenager was a lot more, you know, phoning it in, you know, just kind of throwing it up there what I thought I should throw up there. And, and, uh, you know, my prayers before meals are still, uh, very similar to that. Because I can't think of any better way to word it. Like, I have the same five things. Yeah, like. Thank you for the food. I say the same thing every time. I always say, uh, uh, dear Lord, thank you for everything you've given us and everything you provide for us. Uh, uh, in your name, pray amen. That's it. That's it.

That's all there is to it. But I'm like, that covers it. That's exactly what I mean. You know? And, and so I, I do the same thing every time. But, uh. Well, when you start spreading it, though, then it's like, that's not really the purpose of that particular prayer. No. We're not really praying for the missionaries. You're not really praying for your, you know, fever's big toe problem. And we talked, we talked about this. And Ben actually, Ben actually said something pretty decent. And I can't recall exactly what it is. Really? Sweet. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. But, but, you know, like we were talking after a show once and I'm like, yeah, we should pray for that. You know? Yeah, we should pray about that too. And of course, by the end of this half hour conversation, I've said we should pray for like 45 people.

You know? Well, you know, whoever I thought of in the first 20 minutes are gone completely and I'm not going to pray for them, you know? Yeah. And Ben goes, you got to cut and shuffle this man. You got to either pray for him directly and get him while you're thinking about it or not agree to pray for so many people because it's not going to happen. You know, you got to get them as they come in. Yeah. And he goes, you can't, he goes, you can't pray for everybody unless you throw up a blanket. I pray for everybody. But the Lord, the Lord knows what the deal is. You know, he knows where your heart's at. You know, as long as it's, it's about, it's about the open communication with God, not just you talking, you know, throwing things up there. And it's, it's getting the stuff back. That's amazing. And watching your prayers come out, you know, doesn't matter. You know, I tend to not ask for things. And we've talked about that, how it's not a big deal to ask for things, but I tend to just like to say, Hey, you know, if it's your will, go, you know, and see how it goes. You know, that, that's one of our, our, our core values as a church, we've planted this church with the whole intent of intimacy with God changes people.

You know, that, that's why our emphasis in prayer and, and we're a praying church. Those are two of our top 10 things as, as a church. And we truly believe we don't have to yell at people. We don't have to throw the Bible at people. We don't have to, you know, be mean to everybody and point fingers and, and, and that whole thing, because if they connect with God, God does everything he needs. I mean, we, we, we can stay out of the way and, um, the Holy spirit has us this way of convicting sin. If we have sin or, or encouraging us, if we need encouragement, you know, whatever it is. And, and, uh, prayer, there's that window, you know, connecting really with God and, and, you know, it's kind of freaky as guys, you know, you want to be intimate with God, you know, you know, what does that whole mean? But it's just that whole closeness. And, and, and, I mean, you know, guys have friendships, you know, and, and, um, I don't know, it's, it's just, uh, a, a close connection with, with the creator of the universe is, is, uh, yeah, yeah. You know, and, and actually there's, there's, there's no point in where I feel, uh, exactly like that. Like, like not embarrassed, you know, out and out. Here's my, here's my, my father, my buddy, my friend, you know, uh, when we do the 24 seven prayer room. And, uh, that's, that's where I tend to, uh, I don't know, just, just lose, cause no one's in there, you know, I know it's just me. I know, you know, there's, there's, there's not, uh, uh, you know, kids to worry about.

There's not, there's not a wife to be with. It's just, it's just me and the Lord and a wall full of prayers and, you know, and just me just reiterating whatever's on the wall. And then, and then, you know, going to me and, and, and talking to him. And I, I absolutely adore the prayer room for that because it's, it's, it's a closeness that I don't tend to allow. Now, now, Julie probably has no clue what we're talking about. The 24 seven. Yeah, actually, I was just going to say, what is this 24 seven prayer room? Well, we, uh, uh, for, for two weeks, two times out of the year, um, we have a, we have a ministry center in Johnston, which is, you know, our, our office kind of. It's a house. It's, it is a house. And it's, uh, cause we have school, we have church in the school. So much more. And so we need an office. So anyway, uh, we take one half of, one half of the house and, uh, and, and we do a 24 seven prayer room, which means for every hour for at least two weeks, there's someone praying in that house. And, uh, and I mean, they do, they do all kinds of things. You know, we have, we have music in there. If you like it, there's instruments in there. They paper all the walls so you can write your prayer requests on the walls. And so that's, that's half of the, uh, you know, half of the time is, is, is walk, spend walking around looking what everyone else is praying for and praying for it while you're

at it. And, you know, and, uh, and I, I don't know, like, it's just amazing. I tend to take the, uh, I like the, uh, the night shifts, uh, cause I, I don't have anything going on in the middle of the night, you know, it's either sleeping or Jesus. And I'm like, we only do this twice a year. Let's take the Jesus out. We go, you know? And so, you know, usually, usually Ben and I, and, uh, and, uh, Joel Connell take a lot of the late night shifts and, and, uh, and I mean, there's just something about being out there at two in the morning from two to three in the morning, knowing I have nowhere else that I would rather be. This is the place, you know, and, and you get up early and, and, and you go chucking out there and I spend an hour, you know, on my knees praying or on my knee, you know, just walking around and, and, and, and, you know, looking at what, what's, what are hurting, you know, the people in the church or, or, or, you know, what's glorifying God to other people in the church and just, you know, just, I mean, for, and for two weeks, you know, it's, there's someone in there praying and, and the stuff that happens, uh, with our church family during the 24 seven prayer period is just, is amazing. They're the stories that come out of there are just, just, uh, it's just really awesome. People really connect it with God at such a high level. And, and, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those things when you talk to people about it, oftentimes, you know, their eyes kind of glaze over. It's like, Oh, you're going to pray for an hour, you know, and it's like, it's hard until you get in there. Right.

You just don't get it, you know? Um, and, and when you come out as a whole, yeah, you, you, you have, it's just, you wonder, you wonder what you do with the rest of your life. You don't, why don't I do this anyway? This is fantastic. You know, I mean, I've had people, I invite people, you know, who don't go to our church, don't go to a church. You know, I was like, we're doing the 24 seven prayer room, you know, stop by and, uh, uh, you know, you know, members of my family that, that, that, that don't really attend church and they, you know, they come back every time, you know, and, and even if it's, you know, uh, if it's the, the two times a year that they get spiritually fed, that's better than zero, you know, that's better than nothing. And, and, and they just, you know, they'll bring their friends back. They'll go get their buddies, you know? And it's just, it's just, it's just that, you know, uh, you know, you, you set up a place for, you know, God's everywhere, but you set up a place where, where you can worship him and talk to him and, and, and devote it to that. Um, you know, it's never him standing in the way of you talking to him. It's always you standing in your own way. And, uh, and, and I don't know if that's, that's, that's where I get it. And I love it. And there's 24 seven prayer rooms. A lot of churches do this, you know, obviously. It's a, it's a, it really is an amazing deal. And if you, you know, if you, if you, uh, uh, you know, if, if, if your church is at all

interested in this at all, you know, make sure you, you, uh, talk to us and talk to Daniel. And there's a website 24 seven, uh, 24 dash seven prayer.com. Yeah. And I mean, it's, it's not fancy. You don't have to buy posters. You don't have to, you know, subscribe to anything. You know, it's a prayer room, man. You know, and if you want some ideas to see what other people have done, uh, you know, like I said, you know, talk to Daniel or, or talk to, uh, uh, any other church that do it. I mean, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll really like it. You really will. Yeah. Here's that whole, here's how the whole thing got started at pathway. Uh, Dean Troon is a guy who is, uh, does campus ministry. He also actually talks all over the place on, on prayer, you know, so somehow we've, we've formed this relationship and he happened to be in Des Moines one day. It was kind of flying through and, and had a layover and he was going to go somewhere. Anyway, we did lunch together. He called me up. Hey, let's do lunch. So we'll do lunch. And we're just sitting there having a conversation and he says, well, how are you and God? And, you know, and it's just, just a simple question. And, and immediately my mind goes to the checkoff list.

Well, I pray and I read the Bible and, and, you know, I don't do this and I don't do that. And I'm doing, you know, and, and like, as your mind's kind of rapid fire going through this stuff, you know, I kind of, it's like, I almost like, like almost panicked. I thought, yeah, I don't know what to say, you know, well, I'm a pastor, obviously I'm right. Everything's good with God. God and I, we're, you know, and, and, and as my mind kind of freezes and I'm thinking like, I don't know, how am I really doing it? Because the checkoff, that's check, God's not about checkoff list, you know? And I just kind of smile, I'm doing everything good. Everything's good. Then he kind of got up to the bathroom and I had my little meltdown. Like, man, how, there were the next five days I was in a true spiritual crisis where I'm thinking, really God, how, how are we? You know, I don't even know. Because all I know is I'm doing the checkoff list and, and that's not really what you called me to do. And there were two books he told me, he recommended to me when we were eating, because you got to get the book, Red Moon Rising, which I'd never heard of in my life. I'm like, okay, whatever. And cultivating a life for God. And when it, when I kind of worked through this crisis, I thought there's two things I really need to work on. One is a legitimate prayer life that's not just checking off, you know, and really getting God's word and not just reading it because I got a sermon coming up or a study or something.

And that's just happens to be what those books books are about. The Red Moon Rising describes how the movement of the 24-7 started and just swept across the world. And, and a lot of the ideas we do in our 24-7 come directly from that. And the cool thing is the stories that happen from that, I thought, okay, we're going to try this. We'll see what happens. I didn't tell anybody, here's what you can expect. I just kind of like, we're just going to do it. The same stuff that we read about in that book started happening in our prayer rooms. And it was just like, just kind of confirming, that was more of a God thing. It wasn't, it wasn't a manufactured, fakey, you know, act like this one in the prayer room. You know, it was just like, here it is. We invite God in there. You go connect, see what happens. Same stuff started happening. Just crazy. Then I read the, the Cultivating the Life for God is kind of the organic church movement book about, about, just the LTGs that we do at church where you have accountability partners. You read 20 to 30 chapters of scripture every week and, and just let God transform you. You know, let his word, you know, do the, do the job. And you also have the people that are kind of slapping you upside the head if you need it, you know, with accountability. And those two things have been pretty revolutionary, I'd say, in our church, spiritually to a lot of people.

A lot of people aren't doing both of those. But the 24-7, it's just, it's just crazy. And then it's just grown, it's got a life of its own, just within pathway now. Because like you say, an entire month out of every year is 24 hours a day, seven days a week of prayer. And people are already starting to get excited about it because it's coming up. But is it what, last week in September, first week of October? Yeah. And it's just, it's just, it's amazing. It's not a pathway thing, it's a God thing. Yep. That's really cool. It's, it's, yeah. Well, it sounds like there's something similar going on at the, at the festival, right? You said there was a prayer tent, and it's kind of the same principle, right? People, there'll be people when they're praying. Yeah. And it's actually, it's kind of like, I think people look at it until they, until they walk in, they don't want to be there. They don't know what they're going to do. Yeah. They're afraid, you know, what, what am I going to do? What if somebody comes in and they ask me a question I don't know how to answer? Yeah. You know, and, and people, we have tried for the last four years, every festival we've

had a prayer tent and people will come, you know, we'll, we have lots of people on our committee and then we have, you know, probably 80 volunteers that are just repeat volunteers and, and we can't get anybody who's actually really enthusiastic. Well, I shouldn't say that. There are, there are those, you know, but, but we really want the prayer tent to be filled with people that are praying and, and it's such an intimidating thing and I don't understand it. And we, it's really, I feel really stupid sometimes because I have done exactly what you guys were saying earlier. I've written out prayers for people who feel, you know, like they don't know what they're doing. Well, just read this. We'd have stuff in there to help people who don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And we, we do, we sign people up for half hour segments to be in what we call the inner sanctuary. And that's kind of in the back part of the tent. And, and there, that, that room, we want to have people in there all the time that the festival is going on and they're praying for all the things that are going on. And, and we even are going to put up signs this time. You can text your prayer request if you're too scared to go into the prayer tent, you know. And so we'll have all those prayer requests. We'll be back there in, and the inner sanctuary, they'll be in there praying the whole time. And then there are people out in the front part of the tent that are there for anybody

who is actually willing to walk in and ask for prayer. Or during the altar calls, you know, if, if we send people over there for resources about churches or Bibles or whatever, then we have the people in the front. And this year I have been just amazed because it's like, it's finally catching on. I actually, I had a church call today and wanted to know if she could just staff the whole thing for a few hours because she has a whole bunch of people that want to do it. And that's never happened. You know, I'm like, you have more than one. You have more, more than one from one church. Are you sure you didn't mean to call Habitat for Humanity? Yeah, exactly. This isn't the donkey we do. It's the prayer, prayer booth. Yeah. And it is, it is really an amazing thing. And, and to have people in there praying all the time, you know, you just, you see all the needs that people present. I mean, you don't even think about what other people are going through sometimes. And you might, you just kind of get wrapped up in your own life. You're living, you got stuff, you got your obligations, you're constantly running. And, and you get that 30 minutes and you're in there and you're going, wow, you know, this is really amazing that people go through this kind of stuff. And it might be somebody you're sitting next to and you just had no idea what was happening. So it is really an awesome thing. Cool.

Well, I think that's the whole, I guess that's, that's the whole deal about even talking about prayers is, I mean, it really is, I mean, break it down the, the central activity of your walk with Christ. You know, I mean, I mean, the Bible of course is, is the manual given to you by, by God to use. But I mean, you know, all, all the gray areas, all the questions that, that, that you read and you go, I wonder what the Lord would think about this. You know, he's not out there to, to rail you and, and, you know, stick you in limbo and have you go, good luck figuring this one out. You know, I mean, all the gray areas are figured out in prayer. All of them, you know, I mean, there's, there's not one question the Lord's not going to answer that won't, uh, you know, come, come out to glorify him. You know, you can't go wrong if you ask him, you know, you just, you can't, he's not going to come back with something that, that, you know, you're going to get up to the gates one day and he's going to go, you know, I told you, you know, I mean, he'll give you the answer if you ask for it. And so, uh, I mean, it's just huge. And then just the older I get, the more I realize how, um, how really important it is. And that, that, you know, you can do, you can fill your entire week with, uh, you know, worship practices and, and small group and, and whatever. And, and as soon as you're not talking to God, then you're just walking through the motions, you know, and for no reason. And that's, you know, it's a, the prayer is the great, is a great equalizer person that has known, you know, has been following Jesus for 50 years is, is in the exact same boat as the, the person that hasn't even found him yet.

Like prayers is what brings you to God, closer to God, more in line with what God wants. And, you know, one of the things that we talked about at the end of the show last week that I would really encourage, um, you know, anybody that's out there that's, um, you know, either, either seeking God or, or maybe they're not, maybe they've given up on God. They say he doesn't exist or whatever. I, I would encourage you to try and just talk to him, right? The worst you can do is, is, you know, make a boob out of yourself for a week, feeling like you're talking to something that doesn't exist. But I guarantee that if you seek God, you will find him. Um, and the only way to do that is to start talking to him and start praying. Um, and on the reverse of that, you know, if you've been, you've been following Christ, um, you know, for a long time, you know, keep with that relationship. Um, that's what I think one of the greatest tricks of the devil is the, is the middle road, is the middle road. Christianity is the thought that, that you can, you can do the motions and that's fine. Um, that relationship is between you and God and, and that prayer is what's needed to keep that rolling up. And, and I know, I know the minute that I, that I'm feeling separated from God, I'm, I'm, I have to get back in there through there for prayer and running away almost as always me not praying. If I'm trying to get away from God, there's no other way to do it than to stop talking to him, take him out of my life. Um, and I can feel it and I can feel it when that happens. And as much as I don't want to, as much as what I've done that I don't want to go back there with.

And I, and I know, I know that it's gone, right? I know that he will forgive it, you know, but that's the step. That's the step is to get back and talking with him. And so, you know, if you're, again, if you're seeking, if you're seeking Jesus, please, you know, give that a shot. Just, just try it. You don't have to do it in front of anybody. Uh, there's no, there's no formal way to do it. If you need help, the Lord's prayer, and we're not gonna have time to talk about it this week, maybe we can talk about it next week, um, you know, is, is a good guide. It's not, you don't have to say that. It's a good guide about this kind of, kind of stuff that you can talk with God about. But, you know, if you just want to start with, you know, Hey God, it's Ben, you know, just checking to see if you're hanging out, you know, whatever you just fire it up, give it a shot, um, and do it honestly. And I think you'll see amazing things, uh, go on and you'll, you'll find yourself getting closer and closer to God, because when, when you're talking to him, you know, you're more perceptive to him talking back. He doesn't have to smack you upside the head with it, um, because you're already listening for me. He will smack you upside the head with it if you ignore him long enough. So, all right. Well, uh, we, we're actually quite a bit over. Um, I didn't want to stop. It was probably could go quite a bit longer.

Um, no way you have been listening to live from the path on Des Moines Amplified.com. Again, uh, thank you very much, Julie, for coming in, Al. Thanks for coming in. And, um, I think, I'm pretty sure we're going to try to make it into the, to Spirit Midwest Festival, um, on its, uh, August 6th and 7th. I started doodling on the other side of the paper. Um, again, it was, it's Friday, August 6th, Saturday, August 7th. There's, um, there's plenty of room for fun. There's plenty of room for, you know, a variety of music. Um, they could still use volunteers. You can give directly if it's something you can't make it, but you'd like to support. You can go to SpiritMidwest.com and, uh, there's a, there's a way to donate right on the front there. Um, 90% of the money, uh, goes to the festival. The other 10 goes to me, um, we, 105 goes to the festival. The other five goes to the festival. That doesn't leave me. Yeah. Okay. We'll, we'll talk about this later. We'll square that up. Still negotiating. The math sounded a lot better when I had saying it to what you guys had said. Um, so anyway, also you can, uh, you can find more, uh, of Life from the Path on livefromthepath.org. Also, um, if you're in the area and you'd like to, uh, come visit Pathway Church, um, if you're

looking for a church family, or more importantly, if you're looking for a relationship with Jesus Christ, Pathway Church meets in Johnson at Wallace Elementary at 10 a.m. on Sundays, um, we'd be, we'd love to see you there. Um, come find one of us. We'd be, uh, glad to talk to you about the church. If you'd like more information, um, again, about Jesus Christ, that would be great. We'd love to share that stuff with you. Um, we will see you next week here on Des MoinesAmplified.com. And, uh, feel free to, I know it's a long show, a couple hours on a late Monday, so, uh, if you want to catch up on other days, if you go to the website, lifefromthepath.org, you can sign up for the podcast. It's an audio cast, and you can download that and listen to it there. Thanks again so much for listening, and, uh, have a wonderful week. We're from Calvary, Calvary Station.