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Live From The Path · Season 2012, Episode 13

The Second Anniversary

Recorded · 1:58:43 · 24,361 words transcribed

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Segments

  • Show open: two-year anniversary special 0:08–2:31
    A host opens the two-year anniversary show from the Pathway studios in Johnston, inviting local listeners to 6510 Merle Hay Road for free pizza and soda from the show's newest sponsor. The night's roadmap is laid out: a Skype interview with David Duffield of We Are Leo about their new music video, the two-year anniversary compilation video, and a question for the room about spiritual growth over the past year of the show.
  • In-studio anniversary banter: beads, bling, and the ugly chair 2:31–7:06
    In-studio guests Double J, Pants, Spankenhauser, and Big Ron are welcomed while a co-host arrives to sit in an 'ugly chair.' Festive beads and bling spark riffs on Flavor Flav clocks, LED necklaces, and skinny jeans with Italian boots as the hosts stall for time while the Skype call connects.
  • Newsboys concert broadcast recap 7:06–10:22
    The hosts recap broadcasting from the Newsboys concert at Indianola Community Church, where they interviewed Anthem Lights, Abandon, and City Harmonic. Highlights include Michael Tait declining to come on the show, near run-ins with Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum at past events, and a debate over whether fame makes simple courtesy harder.
  • Interview: David Duffield of We Are Leo 10:23–22:04
    Guest David Duffield of We Are Leo joins by phone to discuss the 'Supernova Sunrise' music video, shot in 19-degree weather on the Lake Michigan shore in Kenosha, and the song's number-13 spot on Christian rock radio. He announces an upcoming re-release titled Hello Again with dubstep and rap remixes, describes selling records at Acquire the Fire conferences, and hopes for a Spirit Midwest return.
  • Supernova Sunrise video plays; the dubstep dance debate 22:06–28:39
    The 'Supernova Sunrise' video plays during an untranscribed gap, after which the hosts plug the band's site and urge listeners to request the song on local Christian radio. A goofy studio debate follows over whether a universal dubstep dance exists, ending with a sight gag of someone performing one.
  • Anniversary hype and framing the growth question 28:40–30:20
    A host hypes the two-year compilation airing at 11 and poses the night's big question for the room and the chat: can anyone point to spiritual growth in their life attributable to the past year of the show? The hosts joke about instead compiling stories of one co-host's lack of growth.
  • Lost in the Christian blogosphere 30:20–33:34
    A host describes getting sucked into Christian blog comment threads arguing over Matthew 18, feeling farther from God afterward, and concluding that blog comments are no place to find biblical counsel. The room agrees: read the Bible yourself, let the Holy Spirit teach, and treat even trusted teachers with discernment, since no human teacher is right one hundred percent of the time.
  • Ministries that look legitimate, concert freebies, donkey camp preview 33:34–35:35
    The hosts note that anyone can fire up a webcam and look like a legitimate ministry, then riff on the free cookies and a Ryan Buck CD collected at the Newsboys show. They preview next week: musician Chris Roloff in studio and a conversation with the man behind a Christian donkey rodeo Bible camp in Missouri.
  • Watchdog donkeys abandoned in Texas 35:35–38:35
    A host recounts a radio story about farmers abandoning donkeys in Texas and Louisiana during the drought, with one rescue group taking in nearly 800 since March 2011. The room spins the premise into jokes about donkey armies, barking donkeys chasing cars, and the logistics of dumping a stubborn animal.
  • Lined up by donkeys: a farmyard story 38:36–41:24
    A host tells the story of visiting a farm with his four-year-old daughter Grace and finding two horses and two donkeys lined up ten feet apart, staring him down against a fence until they escaped. He later asked a horse owner about it and was told horses do not do that, so he stays out of that pasture. The segment closes with a reset on the anniversary show.
  • Beads, Wind-O, breath mints, and church humor 41:24–45:30
    Loose anniversary-party banter: the origin of the beads, a Walgreens knockoff air freshener, and a window cleaner named 'Wind-O.' A host tells the Newsboys-concert story of talking with bad breath while his companion silently leaned away, and the room jokes about first-service versus second-service church crowds and a chat member's stolen intro joke.
  • The humility of touring Christian musicians 45:31–47:46
    A host reflects on interviewing City Harmonic's Eli, Anthem Lights, and John Waller, struck by how consistently their answers pointed back to Christ instead of complaining about life on the road away from family. The room jokes that every touring musician seems to have five kids, and muses about what bands say about interviewers back in the van.
  • The Needtobreathe runner story and the LFTP awards pitch 47:47–50:52
    A host recounts volunteering as a runner for Needtobreathe and getting a chilly reception from a just-woken band member. That sparks a running gag: the show should court Christian businesses for pizza, coffee, and donuts with on-air 'Live from the Path awards' in exchange for free goods, carefully not calling it a tithe.
  • Bridge: 11 o'clock video, growth question, next week's guests 50:52–52:57
    A host recaps what's coming: the two-year anniversary video at 11, the spiritual-growth discussion, and listener advice. Next week's show is previewed — Chris Roloff performing in studio and the Jesus Donkey Ranch interview — with a detour through rodeo camps, Westerwoods, and Central Iowa Bible Camp.
  • Green-room pies, Kaibo voting, and Michael Tait's stare 52:57–58:42
    Asked about the Newsboys show, an in-studio guest describes trying to steal a band's soda and the discovery of ten untouched church-lady pies in the green room. The room riffs on a Kaibo-based vote-for-your-favorite-band contest and a host's story of Michael Tait fixing him with a wide-eyed stare from the catwalk, which felt stranger than a Marilyn Manson equivalent.
  • The two-year anniversary compilation plays 58:42–1:04:08
    The two-year anniversary compilation video plays: a rapid montage of past clips including the 'Solomon Show' bit with Secular as arch-nemesis, guest intros, and running gags. The transcript captures the montage audio, including repeated show opens and one-liners from the past year; some lines are garbled as the montage overlaps voices.
  • After the video: the Solomon Show origin story 1:04:09–1:06:16
    Reacting to the montage, a host explains the Solomon Show bit originated in the studio move: he pretended two co-hosts were absent, Solomon 'took over,' and the bit stuck. He notes one clip was cut for an inappropriate euphemism and points listeners to the show's YouTube channel for the full compilation and recent guest clips.
  • Anniversary reflection: what has the show grown in us? 1:06:16–1:30:29
    The co-hosts answer the night's question. One values the fellowship and the on-air correction of his bad arguments, plus using the show as a bridge to talk about Christ with friends. Another brings hard questions to the show instead of stewing alone and finds encouragement in guests who love Jesus. An in-studio musician guest is grateful for the platform the show gives artists. A co-host cites 1 Peter's call to always be ready with an answer, saying the show forces him to re-think conclusions he settled twenty years ago, and to filter his quick, sometimes coarse humor per Ephesians. The last reflection: the show mixes fun and faith so Jesus lives in entertainment, not just Sundays. A coda recalls their two-month AM 940 stint funded by local realtor Bob Eisenlauer.
  • Harold Camping and the failed end-of-the-world predictions 1:30:29–1:37:27
    Asked for the year's biggest story, the hosts land on the end of the world: Harold Camping's failed predictions and apology tour, and a local man who bought billboards, appeared on the show, declared churchgoers unsaved, then defriended a host on Facebook after the rapture didn't happen. They joke about the December 2012 Mayan calendar panic and land on readiness: be prepared every day, in relationship, not in a bomb shelter, citing the ten virgins.
  • Blog fights, church discipline, and toxic comment sections 1:37:27–1:49:51
    A tangent on the leap-year meme leads to the real Gregorian calendar story: thirteen days skipped in the calendar switch. The hosts then revisit the blog fight that started the night — a church shunning a leader over discipline, with dueling interpretations of 'treat him as a Gentile or tax collector' and how repentance is judged — and conclude blog comment sections are spiritually toxic: read the post, skip the comments.
  • Dear LFTP: jackpots, police-dog poop, and a racist boyfriend 1:49:52–1:56:32
    Three listener letters get the Dear LFTP treatment, each paired with a 'secular answer.' A slots player asking how to hit a jackpot before going broke is told to borrow money or play vending machines. A homeowner debating complaining about police-dog poop on the lawn is told to pick it up and be glad the arrest happened outside. A woman dating a charming man who makes racist remarks is told it is a legitimate concern — racism makes no sense, and the man is an insecure punk she should drop.
  • Sign-off: next week and the compilation replay 1:56:33–1:58:43
    The hosts thank the chat, joke about the show surviving two years only because they own the equipment, and preview next week: Chris Roloff performing plus the Jesus Donkey Ranch conversation. The show closes with a replay of the anniversary compilation audio.

Bible references

  • Matthew 18

    so many different interpretations of Matthew 18

  • 1 Peter 3:15

    we should always be prepared to give an answer for the hope

  • Ephesians 5:4

    there should be no unwholesome talk, coarse joking

  • 1 Timothy 1:4

    not to spend all your time sitting there arguing about these endless genealogies

  • Matthew 24:36

    not even the angels can predict the end of the earth

  • Matthew 25:1-13

    the ten virgins

  • Matthew 18:17

    treated like a Gentile or tax collector

Key questions

  • Can you point to any spiritual growth in your life from the past year of the show? (host-framed)
  • Is the Christian blogosphere a good place to find biblical counsel? (host-framed)
  • What was the biggest news story or conversation the show covered this year? (host-framed)
  • How can I win a casino slot-machine jackpot before I go broke? (dear-lftp)
  • Should I complain to the police about a police dog pooping on my lawn during an arrest? (dear-lftp)
  • I am dating a charming man who makes racist remarks; am I overly sensitive or is this a legitimate concern? (dear-lftp)

People

  • Guest: David Duffield
    David Duffield of We Are Leo, joining by phone/Skype
  • Guest: Double J
    in-studio guest for the anniversary show
  • Guest: Pants
    in-studio guest for the anniversary show
  • Guest: Spankenhauser
    in-studio guest for the anniversary show
  • Guest: Big Ron
    in-studio guest for the anniversary show
  • David Duffield
  • Harold Camping
  • Michael Tait
  • Eli (City Harmonic)
  • John Waller
  • Ryan Buck
  • Chris Roloff
  • Tim Tebow
  • Rush Limbaugh
  • Michele Bachmann
  • Rick Santorum
  • Flavor Flav
  • Mr. T
  • Randy Savage
  • Marilyn Manson
  • John Acuff
  • Troy
  • Nathaniel
  • Grace
  • Bob Eisenlauer

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, you are Live from the Path. The Live from the Path is the, uh, that's what I'm talking about. You're still in order to the second anniversary show of Live from the Path. Thanks for joining us here tonight. Oh man, it just cut off there. The fun, the fun is over. Hey, should be a pretty good show tonight, fellas. It keeps improving over the years. You are, uh, you're listening to Live from the Path. We have a full studio here tonight. And, uh, I anticipate seeing even just a few more, a fella or two, scramble in. Uh, hey, there's still time to make it down here. I don't want to dissuade you. If you're in the, if you're in the area, uh, you can come to 6510 Merle Hay Road here in Johnston. And, uh, the doors are open. The pizza is free. Uh, there may or may not still be some Walgreens soda remaining by the time you get in here. Uh, but, but there's other legitimate soda available. Our newest sponsor. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so there you go. It should have a fun show coming for me today at this, uh, at the two-year anniversary. Uh, we're going to be talking here in just a couple minutes with, uh, David Duffield from We Are Leo. Uh, We Are Leo, we've had, uh, we've had in the studio before.

Uh, we've thought we've, uh, been able to Skype with him before. And so we're going to talk to him via Skype again and, uh, see what's happening with them. They've got a new music video out and we're going to play that for you after we get done talking with David. And, uh, and I'm pretty excited for that. I, I, I did watch the music video before we got here and it's, uh, it's a pretty solid one. Um, and, uh, and their CD actually, uh, makes the, makes the rounds on our, uh, our pre-church, uh, as people are filtering in. I think it, uh, the, our best Sundays are when their music plays. That's what I'm saying. People are, people are jazzed about this type of thing. Uh, so anyway, we're going to talk with We Are Leo. They're going to be on here in just actually a couple minutes. One minute. Man, the time is flying. Uh, so we're going to talk with David there. And then, uh, I've got the, I've got the two-year video compilation done. It is just as embarrassing and, and, and verifies that we've done nothing with our time and efforts for Jesus in another year's worth of programming here on Life in the Past. So I'm going to show you that, uh, and then to hopefully counteract that particular problem. Um, I've asked the guys to think about, you know, can you point to anything, uh, a, um, a point of spiritual growth over the last year that you can attribute in one way or another, uh, to the Life in the Past program? You know, like, like, because I've been thinking about this myself and I actually have a few, um, but, uh, but just something, something to think about.

And we'll see if we can kind of balance our two-year anniversary, uh, uh, video item with other stuff going on and see if we can, we validate the appropriate Jesus use of our program. So, uh, so there you go. Hey, uh, we, we got, uh, tons of, tons of guests here in the studio. Uh, Double J is with us. Uh, I, I, I, I can't shake him off. The wind. He was, he was. That's right. So, uh, that's very sad. You need more friends, bro. So, uh, it's, he's moved closer. He's easier to drag in here. So, so Double J's in here. Uh, pants is here. Uh, uh, Spankenhauser is in here. Big Ron's in the studio. Big Ron. Uh, Mike's on the way sitting in the ugliest chair I've ever seen. That's going to be him. So there you go. Well, what's up? What are we talking about? Uh, that chair is insulted. Yeah, that chair seems very hurt.

It's, no, it's ugly. It's not ugly. It's an ugly chair. All right, hold on. Let's, uh, again, talk a bunch of yourselves. I'm going to see if I can get a hold of, uh, of David from the, uh, from way earlier. Go ahead. I, I actually am enjoying the beads. Like, I, I, I'm legitimately liking the beads. And, uh. It's very festive. Dan, you, you really did pick some colors that completely clash with that gorgeous shirt. Thank you. That looks like it's a pattern of buttons. In an interesting way. Very interesting way. Did you say, like a young Macho Man Randy Savage? I personally, I, I love the bling that Ben has on. It's, uh. I look good. It's fitting. It's fitting. There was a bunch of girly colors, but this one really, I mean, this gives me some street cred. Well, I don't really know girly colors. Yeah, no. You know, I feel bad because my actual bling broke off.

And I'm sad about that. Ben, I think you could rock that on a daily basis. Things just, like, go on, like, grocery store with that on. You know what you need? That's a good thought. You need the Flavor Flav clock. Like, I can see you walking around with the gigantic clock that covers your entire chest. No one needs the clock. I can see you. I can see you doing that, Ben. We have cell phones now. I don't know. That's right. Double J, you're going to have to snuggle up to that microphone, man. Get on up in there. Hey. Okay, there you go. Hello. Hello. We like Mr. T with all this bling on. You know, I kind of want to be like the New Age Flavor Flav and wear, like, a gigantic cell phone around my neck. Just click it on the side, you know? You got to bring it up. No, I hear you. It's like a digital hit a button and it lights up kind of thing.

That's a great idea. LED digital clock. I like it. I think I could sell a line. Get working on that. These are all good ideas. You put your logo on there. You can sell it at the merch table. Yeah, J4J Gigantic digital watches on your… No. I would be the first on the list for that product. I just didn't… Oh, I could even, like, do the, like, J4J, kind of, like, the Flavor Flav thing. You know what I'm saying? I like it. I like it. You should do that. I like a show. It's just a marketing campaign in the happening and I like it. It's crazy. I do know, I have discovered after our last outing, what one step you can take to really take your music career to the next level. And that is a skinny jeans and Italian boots. I thought it was the bass drum. No. Yeah.

Well, that giant bass drum was pretty cool. Yeah, that giant bass drum was cool. Like, that can make great careers right there. You need to look a little more feminine is really where I'm getting at. I'm just going to stop you right there until you know. I'm saying if you want to go to the next level. I want to know where they get all those jeans with, like, the spiky things on them and stuff. Like, is there a spiky jeans store? They go in stores that you don't go in. Yeah. Like, that's the difference. These are, like, back alley stores. Hey! Hey! Norm! Mike, you get that ugly chair. Hi, Mike. Hey, what's that with the classy pop? Yeah, there's plenty of low-rent pop here. What, do you think you're cool or something? Hey, man, seriously. Huh? I can't get a hold of David. We're going to have to buy some time. Put on some beads, Mike.

So we were at, we were this week, we were graciously invited to broadcast from the Newsboys concert at Indianola Community Church. And, boy, that was a, that was some pretty slick digs. I liked the whole experience. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty cool. It had a great opportunity to be a ragtag operation, and it turned out to look and sound legitimate. I was pretty happy about that. Lots of party, man. Yeah. We were confused, too. So, and we got to talk with Anthem Lights, and I tell you what, I got a chance to review some of the footage, and I'll hopefully get it posted yet within this, a week or two. But they sound really good. I mean, like, the recordings turned out very well, and I'm kind of excited to come check out some more music from them. We got to see Abandoned, Anthem Lights, City Harmonic, and then the Newsboys. And, very cool. Yep. Very cool show. I don't know. A good time has had by all. Yeah. What, was there a highlight for you, Dan?

A highlight of the night? I liked it when the people would not come on the show. That's always my favorite part, is when people say, ah, we can't, now. No, that's a bad. We're not coming out there. That's a bad career move. We're not going to do it. I like that. We're too legit for this. I think that's solid. I enjoyed her, of Michael Tate, when she was telling us how he said no. Oh, when she was talking about how the Newsboys weren't going to come out. Yeah. And, she did do an impression of him, of how he explained that he wasn't going to come out. Nathaniel, how would you say that went? I would say it was pretty much the most office-some thing I've ever seen that night. I missed this. Well, she was like, he came up to me. Well, no, she said, I came up to him and said he did a great job and asked him to come on the show, and he just said, no. No. No. Now, to their defense, they probably really wanted to come, but it was out in a public setting, and it would have been an awkward moment. It would have been hard.

It was pretty hard to control the crowd anyway with us. Yeah, yeah. You put them out there. We had to fight them all. Yeah. There were times… Wait a minute. What kind of excuse is that? Like, they make pretty good money walking around. People pay good money to get into the show, and you say, no, I don't want to be around these people. I don't be around the commoners. They're like the cockroaches of society. It seems a bit strong, doesn't it? It hurts my feelings a little bit, actually. Yeah, yeah. I would like to say I wouldn't do that, but I bet night after night after night, everybody trying to get a conversation with you. I suppose after a while, we have had no brush with fame. So, I mean, after a while, I suppose it might get annoying. Well, they brushed up against their bus. We stood next to it, got a picture. Who did we almost talk to? I thought of a good joke. It was the politician at the Spirit Midwest Festival. Who was it?

Oh, the lady. Bachman? Michelle Bachman. There was somebody else, too. Who? There was Michelle Bachman, and then I don't… Was Santorum there? I had a good joke with him. Do you remember? No. Oh, man. Well, he was in. Nobody knew him yet. Because with the last parade, with the parade we did, the Urbandale Parade, he was like right behind us. We were talking to Santorum the whole time. Hey, how you doing, buddy? Really? Hey, nobody knows me. Hey, I'll shake your hand. Hold on. We might have a… What is that? What is that? Hello. David Duffel, this is live from the path.

Hey, how's it going, guys? It's going very well. How are you today? Yeah, I'm pretty good. I worked hard today. What have you been doing today? You know, the guys from our record label, Sky's father, are building a new studio, so I've been over there helping them. That's like real work. Wait a minute. So, not that writing songs isn't real work. So, wait, when you sign down with this record label, part of the deal is you've got to do manual labor in their studio? Pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we're kind of a big family, so just try to help with whatever I can help with. I mean, like, you like painting or doing drywall or carpet or hanging lights? Um, you know, we're cleaning, like, uh, these, um, they used to build electric motors in this plant, so we're cleaning, like, this nasty, uh, I don't know if it's dirt or soot or what, but just this filthy carpet of nastiness. Now, it seems to me if you were going to build motors, you'd go with a hard surface floor. Yeah, I'm thinking… Opposed to carpet. Or if you were going to move into a place that built motors, you might just take the carpet out. Yeah.

These are all thoughts. Yeah. They're good thoughts. They're good thoughts. Nonetheless, I was covered with soot from head to foot. Yeah, you guys go ahead and ponder on that, doofus. Wow. So what have you guys been up to? Uh, well, actually, you've, you've, uh, you've come on a good night. It's the two-year anniversary of the Life in the Path program. No way. Yeah. Happy anniversary. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you very much. They're talking about it everywhere. There's free… I know you're quite a bit away, but there's free pizza here. I mean, if I… I don't know if you want to drive down or whatever, but… And disco lights. Yeah. Well, pizza is tempting. It's gas station pizza, isn't it? Uh, no, no. We bought from a legitimate…

Was that okay? I didn't notice what the box was. Thank you. I'm going to tell you what. I enjoy David's half commitment to things. Like, yeah… You know, he doesn't really say… He says it without saying it, like, yeah, that sounds like a dumb idea, but he just leaves it at, yeah. Thanks for asking and all. You know, if I recall, Collective, last time we talked to him over the phone, he was like that. Like, remember we tried to order Jimmy John's to send to his place? That's right. And he was half committed until he found out that he was going to have to pay for it. And then he kind of stood up and said, I wasn't going to do that. I know. Hey, well, I'll tell you what. Let's catch up with where you guys are. So, the last time we talked, you guys were in studio. You were touring around. And then we got wind of you guys got a music video out. So, tell me a little bit about the video. Yeah. We are so excited about our new music video. It's the one for Live for Love.

And, um… Oh, no, sorry. It's the one from Supernova. Supernova Sunrise. And we shot that in Kenosha where we live, right on the shores of Lake Michigan. It was about 19 degrees when we shot that video. We were freezing cold. But, yeah, the video's been doing great. We've had super positive response from the video. And we want everybody to go check it out if they at all can. I don't want to sound ignorant. How do you know you're getting good response to the video? Do people download the video and buy it and stuff? I really am ignorant. I don't have an iPhone. No, I mean… It's just that it plays on YouTube. Okay, so you can just see… Okay, I got you. Okay, I'm just following. I'm following. Yeah, it is doing great. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, and I mean, it was funny because we spent about 18 months on our record. And I think we spent like two days shooting the video.

And, you know, when we released our record, you know, all of our friends were like, yeah, that's pretty cool. When we released the video, my phone just blew up like all week, like texts and calls. And everybody's like, wow, you guys are so awesome. So, yeah, video is definitely the way to go these days, apparently. And we're lacking a video. Oh, no, we have plenty of videos. They don't do as well as the Supernova Sunrise. But we're talking with David Duffield with We Are Leo. And we're talking about their new video, Supernova Sunrise. You can catch it on YouTube. Actually, as soon as we're done talking with David, we're going to play it for you so you can take a look at it. And then make sure after you're done watching it and enjoying it that you go out to YouTube and, you know, share that with your friends, post it on Facebook, do what you've got to do with it so that people can check it out. And there's also a link on the YouTube channel to pick up the song and the rest of the album on iTunes. So we'll show you that after we're done talking with David. So are you at home now? Yeah, we're at home. Just chilling out. Getting ready to go to bed pretty quick here. So, but, yeah, with Supernova right now, we're super excited about this song. We're number 13 right now on Christian Rock Radio with that song. Wow.

That is pretty cool. Very nice. That's awesome. And people should be, they can help out with that by calling into your local station and saying, we want to hear Supernova Sunrise by We Are Leo. Pants, did you do that? Right, and of course, their local station is live from the past, so you guys are going to be getting lots of calls. That's right. No, call legitimate radio. Don't call into the studio thinking we have the power to do anything. You totally got to call. What's our local Christian radio station? It would be 1071. Yep. 99.5. 99.5, the Pulse. And Caleb's on 90.5? You guys don't go down that low on the dial? You do? You've got a funny hat. You would know that. That's pretty nice. Okay. All right. So yeah, definitely call into those folks.

And I mean, whatever. We'll certainly be playing it. But the five people that watch the program are, you know, they can do better. So very cool. So what's next for you guys? I have no idea. I'll check my calendar. We're going to clean the bathroom tomorrow. Yeah, I sent a tweet to Tim Tebow tonight if he wants us to come play at any Jets games or anything like that. But he hasn't got back to me yet. That's a good idea. I'd give him a little bit of time. He's probably watching the show. Yeah. He'll probably be texting you here pretty soon. Yeah. Okay, cool. Well, thanks for that hookup. So are you guys going back to the festival again this summer? You betcha. Yeah. Yeah. Are you going back to the festival? Spirit Midwest, right? Yeah.

Yep. Cool. Well, they haven't called me yet. They haven't called me and asked me to come yet. But we're definitely open to coming back and playing. We're playing at a lot of stuff. We're playing at Sunshine up in Minnesota. That's a big one. Which is a good one. Yeah, we're actually going to be on main stage, which is really exciting. We're going to be standing by the Kaibos trying to get in. So if you see us, just wave with our handmade press passes. Yeah, well, we'll get you in. I'll try to pull some strings. Nice. But yeah, you should tell the guys from Spirit Midwest to have us back. Yeah, we definitely will. We can do that. Yeah. That is one thing we can do. Yeah. Yeah. We probably have the power to do something that we can actually take care of. Good feeling. So what about – so this album is actually – I mean, it's not that old. Did you have any plans?

Like have you guys been writing when you've been on the road or any plans down that road? No, we haven't been writing at all. We've just been trying to sell our record. I think I'll go sell it. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it takes a lot of effort and work these days to sell enough copies to recoup the album costs. And so it's been really good. I mean, we've been playing at Acquire the Fires, which are pretty big conferences. Yeah. We got two – yeah. So we got two coming up next month. And, you know, hopefully if we sell enough copies of this album, then God will give us the chance to make another one. But at the moment, we're just super focused on trying to – I think we're probably – we got one more single to release after Supernova. At least one more. So there's going to be a new single hitting the radio in the summertime. And actually, we're about to re-release the record. Wait a minute. So can we – what's the name of the next signal? Can we call up the radio station and start demanding it as well? No. I mean, just demand for Supernova right now because we're so close to breaking the top ten. Oh, yeah. Okay. All the eggs in one basket.

I'm with you. Keep pushing. That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, we're re-releasing the record in, like, three weeks. And it's going to be called Hello Again. My friend. It's going to have, like, a dubstep – yeah. Yes. It's going to have, like, a dubstep remix and a rap remix of one of the songs. Oh, that is awesome. People have been getting jazzed up by dubstep. Dubstep is where it goes. Dude, our dubstep remix is boss, man. It hits so hard. Oh, my gosh. That is so great. See, I was just going to say it's pretty cool, but then it would be pretty obvious that I don't dubstep because I would have said something like boss. I was going to say, that sounds neat. That sounds – That's for the keen. Neato. Super. Super duper. Super, guys.

Way to go. When you do, like, the Choir of the Fire type stuff, do you sell many CDs in a situation like that? Are all the kids, like, just pretty much there with no money? Or is it just exposure? I mean, you get to do – you know, you're leading worship and stuff too, but – Yeah. Actually, Acquire of the Fire, we sell a lot of – yeah, a lot of CDs. Cool. I mean, I think you're a target audience right there. They'd be right – all right there in one big pile. Yeah, Acquire of the Fire is perfect for us. Put me in the big pile of people. Mike's making faces at me. I'll settle down. I was trying to figure out if you were trying to figure out why your book hasn't been selling or – Or it's just kind of one of those things. I don't know. Dan has a book? Yeah, Dan has, like, three books. Really? Yeah. I need to have him at Acquire of the Fire. I can throw him at the kids. Well, I tell you what, we've been speaking with – we've been talking with David Duffield with We Are Leo.

You can find more information about them. It's weareleo.com, right? Hello, weareleo.com. I knew it. That's why I asked. Okay, it's helloweareleo.com. You can also go to youtube.com and search for their video. If you just type in We Are Leo, that Supernova Sunrise music video we're just about to show you will come up right there. Make sure you take a listen to it here and then go share it on Facebook. Hit the Twitter. Do whatever you've got to do to get that out so they can get the push that they need from that video. And also call the local stations in town. You can get 1071. It was at 99.5. And there's some mystery stations somewhere in the 90s that also plays Christian music. Make sure you call those folks. David, thank you so much for taking time out of your night to come talk with us. Really appreciate it. And you've got a place to crash if you're ever swinging back through town. Yeah, that was – we actually slept on your floor one time. Yes, you did. What was that, six months ago or something? Yeah. Hey, next time can you clean the carpet when you're done? Yeah, sorry about that.

All right. But, yeah, thanks so much for having me on the show, guys. Hopefully we'll be seeing you this summer at Spirit Midwest. Yep, sounds good. We'll put in a good word. Thanks so much for talking to us and have a good night. Cool. All right. Thanks, guys. God bless. All right. Goodbye. That was David Duffield with We Are Leo. That was winning. I like them. I just like them. Winning. They were a lot of fun when they were in here too. Actually, they made the two-year anniversary video because they go – and I can't – I don't know what circumstances caused them to do this, but like the group of them go, we are Leo. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I put them up to that if I recall because I thought that they sounded like the Farmer's Mutual commercial. Anyway, they were willing to do it, so they'll be in that video coming up. But we're going to go ahead and let you take a look at the video that we've been talking about by We Are Leo, and we'll play that for you, and then we will be right back with you. Continue on with our two-year anniversary special here at Live From The Path. Please enjoy the following video from We Are Leo.

That was We Are Leo, Supernova Sunrise. You're listening to Live From The Path. We just got off the line with David Duffel with We Are Leo. Their website is HelloWeAreLeo.com, and you can find out more information about them, find out what's going on in their world, pick up their CD if you don't have it. You can also download it from iTunes and – I'm going to say Amazon, but I don't know that for sure. I like to say that stuff. Actually, I've got an interest in this dubstep remix they've got coming out. No doubt. I better practice my dubstep. Because they're pretty funky as it is. Is there a dance that goes like a universal dubstep dance? That's like trying to tell – no. It's like trying to tell someone there's a universal rave dance. What is a rave? There's a rave. Like techno. There's no dance for dubstep? No. It's just breakdancing with different music. You haven't seen any YouTube videos? Okay, that's probably a stretch. I haven't seen any YouTube videos. He's seen zero YouTube. He's never even participated in any YouTube video. I just assumed that a rave dance was this.

Yeah, it's the thing that I do. Like a guy that's drying the back of his hair with a real small towel. That's what I thought of it that way before. I haven't thought of it that way before. That's how you get good at it. People, inexperienced people use a big towel. That's stupid. Looks like a gorilla. Wait, okay, show me the dubstep dance. Do it. That's you do – okay, hold on. This is the dubstep right here? That is not the dubstep. There it is. There it is, right there. I disagree. Here comes a dubstep. And a dubstep. And a dubstep. And a dubstep. All right, back. That's beautiful. I don't know. I wish I'd remember that there was a keytar on that video. I would have had to talk to David about it. It obviously wasn't plugged in or anything, so I don't know what to do.

Obviously not. It was out in the middle of a field. A keytar acoustically rocks in the middle of a hill. Anyway. You never know. It might be battery-powered. Got a good point. That's not – it's not a good point. Just because we're on the radio doesn't mean you have to fill it with goofiness. It's not a good point. It could be a battery. A battery-powered guitar. There are battery-powered instruments everywhere. You're listening to Life from the Path. We're battery-powered. This is – hey, this is your second-year anniversary show. Make some noise, boys. Woo! Oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize I could do that. You got a lot of power there. That was all party and hipster right there. It is battery-powered. So coming up with the rest of the show, we got our two-year anniversary special – It's weird that you have to move your beard to have a drink or something. You know what I'm saying?

That is a little odd. I haven't seen the beard yet. If that was a real beard, I'd be freaking out. The two-year clip compilation, that's going to come up. We're going to fire that up right at 11 o'clock so you can see what we've been up to over the past year. It looks pretty good. Now, I'll tell you this. I didn't get to do what I wanted to do. It would probably have been another two minutes longer, but we may have some technical issues. All right. But I think I've got to straighten out where there's enough – it's enough of an example of what we've got going on in our day-to-day lives. Hey, stay on your own camera. He doesn't get one for a purpose. Oh. Yeah, that's right. All right. So anyway, that's coming up. And we're also going to try to answer the question, looking back at the last year of Life in the Path, and this is for the guys in the room, but if you're on the chat and you want to participate, I'd be interested to hear it. The question is, can you point to any spiritual growth in your life that you could attach or otherwise attribute to the time spent here on Life in the Path? I can. Yeah. So think about that. We're going to talk a little bit about that and what that may have looked like for you, what types of things that you've learned. I can think of some stuff. We could also talk about why Troy has not grown at all and what part of the show he needs to really listen to. Yeah, that's a good point.

If you really want to do that, yeah. It'll be interesting. Yeah, it seems like we can all share stories of how Troy hasn't grown and how we've witnessed it. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and head out. How Troy Failed Me – no, hold on. I'm just starting. How Troy Failed Me – number one. Are we writing a whole book about this? No, it's going to be auditory. Hang out. All right. My days with Troy. Also, Mike, what you got coming up? Oh, so I got stuck in the middle of the Christian blogosphere today and what a disaster. You got out. What a disaster. I literally had to tear myself away from it. I was engrossed in it, comment after comment, and blah, I mean about a subject that was – I was on the fence on anyway. It was like a 50-50 weird deal, and I started reading it, and then it's like, you should check out this response. And so I just kept following links around. I'm like, I got to get out of this thing. Like, I felt farther away from God after reading it. But you can get consumed with some of that stuff, and it'll take you places that you don't even realize you didn't want to go. No. Like, I've never heard so many different interpretations of Matthew 18. Like, it was just – it was a really – it was like a hot-button topic, right?

And it just kept going back and forth, and I'd read one guy. I'm like, well, that guy's pretty solid. You know, that sounds biblical. And then this guy would show up and go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'd go, well, that's pretty solid. And so I finally decided – I was like, there's no such thing as good biblical counsel. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody's taking all this stuff from the same Bible and then interpreting it. And I thought, you know what? There's something to be said for sitting at your house, reading your Bible, and letting the Holy Spirit explain things to you. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a place for biblical counsel, but there really is for feeding your own self, reading your Bible, and just letting the Holy Spirit give to you what he wants to say. Because you go looking for answers outside of that, and either you're taking things that the Holy Spirit has given someone else and trying to apply to your life, which is probably a bad idea, or you're just taking a guy who didn't listen to the Holy Spirit at all, and he's trying to explain something. And I'm not saying there's not good biblical teachers out there, but you've really got to be discerning. Well, you know, just because they're the loudest voice or even the most reasoned voice doesn't mean they're right. It's true. It's true. And we've talked about this on the show before, right? There's probably two or three ministers, pastors, whatever, that I listen to apart from Dan. And 95% I agree with them. Like, the other 5%, you just got to chuck. You know, like, you just got to get rid of it. You got to be able to listen.

And I was talking about this with the youth on Friday, but, like, anything that is written by a man about God, you have to be able to look at it, and there better be at least 5% to 10% of it you don't agree with. Right. Because if there isn't, I'm going to submit I don't think you're reading it correctly. You can't. There's nothing that you're going to read from a guy and go dead on. Yeah. Every time. That's dead on. He makes no mistakes. Yeah. It's an impeccable discernment of the Bible, you know? Yeah, yeah. If you look at a guy talking on behalf of God and everything he says, you're like, that guy knocked it out of the park. Like, Jesus always knocks it out of the park. Yeah. That guy does not. Exactly. Right? Yeah. Well, like I said, that doesn't mean there's not good biblical teachers. That doesn't mean there's not good preachers out there, because there are. But, like, if you listen to it, and week after week you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's nothing I've ever heard him say that I thought was a little fishy.

I don't think you're using correct amount of discernment. You should find it. I say 20% fishy things, you know? That's half the reason I enjoy coming to this show, because I'll say something, and then we'll end up talking about it for 15 minutes on how I was wrong. And that's how I learned not to say crap like that. Yeah? Yeah? Well, and you also got to be careful, because we live in a very world where things can easily look legitimate. Take the show, for example, right? You can watch this online, not know anything about us. It looks like a legitimate program. People can, like, fire up a microphone and put up a webcast and call themselves pastor, leader, prophet, whatever, and start something, and you have no idea. I mean, we just went to a concert as a radio program and had a bigger space than a real radio station. Exactly. There were a couple of them, like, piled into, like, one table, and we had this giant interview area. We're like these guys with some webcams. You know what I thought was funny is they show up, and they put out a big booth and a big spread of stuff and bring bumper stickers and stickers, whatever. They're there for, like, an hour when the people are coming in. And then they kind of pack up, and the dudes kind of hang around, and we're like, we're there for the duration.

We show up. Ben and Nathaniel got there, like, two in the afternoon. We were there at two o'clock, and we left at 11. We were there the whole time. And you know what? We don't have anything free to give away, so we can only bank on our own stuff. We have our personalities. Exactly. Exactly. It shined all over the place. What? What? Cheesy potatoes to give away? Cheesy potatoes? No, man. You know what? I think we got more free stuff than we gave, because we got free cookies from. No, that's true. We got free cookies. We got some free soda. We got a free CD from Matt. Ryan. Ryan Buck. Ryan Buck. Yeah. That's solid.

Yeah. He's going to come on the show. Yeah, he is coming on the show. And the next week, we were supposed to have him on this week, but due to scheduling differences, whatever, the rodeo Christian camp is going to be on. Oh, sweet. So next week's going to be a sweet, sweet show, because that means we're going to talk to the donkey camp man who puts on the Christian donkey camp. And Chris Roloff's going to be in the studio performing. You know, I might have oversold on the amount of donkey stuff that they're doing. I checked out the website. It seems a lot of horses and not a lot of donkeys. Oh, man. I mean, there might be a donkey or two, but they don't look like they get a lot of action. That's depressing. That is depressing. I heard some of the radio about donkeys there yesterday. Like, some state, they use donkeys, like, for, like, watchdog type things. Like, for sheepdog type of thing. And the economy, like… Somebody drives in your driveway, the dog goes… What is… I got to have to look that up. Maybe it was Rush Limbaugh or something. It was something that was flipping on the radio, and I was driving. I said, I want to see this watchdog donkey.

But they were saying that these farmers, they're, like, abandoning their donkeys. And so they'll, like, take them to another farm and just kind of leave them and go, because the economy's so bad, they can't feed their donkeys. So we got wild donkeys roaming around. That's much different than getting rid of your dog, right? Because you have to have a trailer for donkeys. Yeah, what do you do with a donkey? They're notoriously stubborn, right? So you get there. He won't leave the trailer. Now you're totally busted trying to dump your donkey. And the women are, like, really nasty. They get angry, and they start chasing cars. The lady donkeys? Yeah, the lady donkeys. They chase cars? They're getting people in trouble. That's awesome. I mean, it's a big issue. Where is this going on? I don't want to go there. I see. I smell really good YouTube videos coming from the experience. No, no, no. You most certainly don't put it in the trailer. You go cartoon style, and you tie a rope with a carrot in front of it,

and then you just send it, and it just walks after it. I highly don't think that would happen. Why? You don't know anything about donkeys. Ben's got a good point here. It's Texas. I'm sorry. Texas. That's probably better. Yeah, mine's dead on. Go ahead. Do your impression of a barking donkey. All I can imagine is a donkey sleeping on my front porch like my dog does, and then a car, the headlights pull in, and he kind of gets up a little bit, and he goes, and then the guy just turns out the leaves, right, because the donkey's standing looking at you. Seriously, wouldn't that freak you out if you were driving away in your vehicle and, like, a donkey was chasing after you, barking? I didn't think the mailman would think. They'd be abandoned in Texas and Louisiana due to a lingering drought. Boy. We don't have any water. Let's just dump the donkey. Let's go down to Texas. There's three donkeys.

There's a donkey rescue group. Oh, my God. Yeah, of course there is. I've thought of three clever names right now that's inappropriate. Since March 2011, they've taken in nearly 800 donkeys abandoned in Texas. They use them to guard their herds. Like, all of them? Do they just put them in a big circle? I don't know. Donkey army. All right, donkeys. They braid each other all day. This is the Huffington Post. What if it's, like, an animal rescue leak for donkeys? Boy, that's wild. People just turn them out on the highway. 800 used donkeys. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had no idea. What kind of big, massive planet do you have to have to take on 800 donkeys? It's a donkey emporium. It is a donkey emporium. Well, wouldn't it stink, though, if you were surrounded by 800 donkeys and they're all, like, barking at each other? Hey, they'd be angry. They'd be really loud.

They just leave them. And then the donkeys are causing trouble. They're kicking and… When they take in the donkeys. It's like a donkey gang invading Texas. Packs of wild donkeys coming into Austin. The rescue people? Did they chop them up and make them into glue? No, no, no, because they're rescuing them. They love the donkeys. There's a flood of donkeys. Did I tell you that story where me and Grace went into a farmyard and we got lined up by a group of donkeys and horses? No. So we went to… My in-laws live by a farm, right? So me and Grace, my four-year-old daughter, go out and she loves to visit these horses, you know? And so I was born and raised in an apartment building. I have a fear of giant animals. I don't know them. Well, you think… Hello, they're bigger than you are. They could step on… Have you seen the wild eyes the horses have? I mean, it looks like one goes in and then borrows to the other side and then just kind

of loops around in a crazy circle. Anyway, so we go in there, right? And we sneak in through the gate and there's two big old horses eating and two donkeys eating. I'm like, okay, okay, Gracie. Let's go over this way and we'll just kind of look at them, you know? So we go over there, kind of look at them a little bit. She picks up grass like she's going to go feed them. I'm like, no, no, we don't do that. So I turn around to start walking back and I say, well, she goes, let's look at the horses again. I said, okay. So we turned around and there they are, lined up, equally spaced, 10 feet apart, four of them, donkey, horse, donkey, horse, staring at me. And now I'm back… They're organized. Now I'm backed up against a fence, right? And so it's there, 15 feet in front of me, 10, 10, 10, 10. Me, four-year-old girl, right? I'm like, all right, what's my play here? I think I can toss Grace over the fence, risk a broken arm as long as his horse doesn't come after us, you know? And we escaped. Nonetheless, we came out. Were they foaming at the mouth or anything? They were just sitting there. Stomping their feet?

Or like looking around, they were just all staring at me. I'm like, I've never seen… I've never been flanked by animals. Like it was just a weird operation. And so we get out, right? Like I threw something and the two donkeys split. And so me and Grace, you know, we hog tied out and I went… You needed that rodeo guy. Like this. Like this. I had a kid under one arm. It was more like this. This story's like you're running from the mafia. You stand three big foot in front of four donkey horse combinations and I would pee a little. I mean, it was intense. I think I can handle that. So I asked a horse guy. I'm like, have you ever seen this blah, blah, blah, this and this to happen? He goes, no, sir, I've never heard of that. No one's ever survived that. I said, seriously, like you're not just joking with me, right? He goes, no, sir, horses don't do that. I said, they did. He goes, I'd stay out of there. I said, good enough for me. They don't like you.

That was the creepiest thing ever. I feel like I would be really freaked out if I got lined up by a couple ostriches. Like those seem like some dangerous. They can kind of make it. Yeah. It's as hard as they start doing that. Yeah. You know, like… Have you seen that? Have you seen that like on the National G or whatever? They make that hiss. They go… Oh, yeah. They're fast. Yeah. They're fast. I could not ruin an ostrich. All right. Anyway, hey. You're listening to Live from the Path. Yes, you are. Hey, you join us on the second year anniversary show. Woo! Yeah! Thanks for swinging us by. I should have asked somebody, where we got all these beads?

Some things you just don't ask. Troy brought them in. Don't ask, don't tell. Yeah. Okay. Just something to know. So, coming up at 11 o'clock, we're going to show you the two-year anniversary video. That's all put together and ready to roll. Also, we're going to answer the question, what has happened over the past year at Live from the Path? Can you identify any spiritual growth attributed to the show? And that's primarily for the guys in the room. But on the chat, I suppose if you have anything to add, I'd be interested in hearing it. We're trying to vindicate that we should continue broadcasting. If all we can produce is some follies. Six minutes of us making fools out of ourselves and no Jesus progress. So, we probably should reconsider our efforts. We lost some sleep. What are you doing over there? That is what he's doing. I think that's appropriate. Hey, man. It's that you brought in for breeze. This is a good idea. Woo! Where have you been all my life, you know?

Well, I heard on Thursday when we were talking about the upcoming show that there were going to be a bunch of dudes in here because there was going to be a party. So, I figured it's pretty hot in here and everybody's going to get all sweaty and it's going to smell kind of gross. So, I brought some breeze in here. Actually, it's not really for breeze. It's Walgreens brand. Wait, what is it? What is the title? It's nice. Nice. Fabric. They really like that whole nice brand. Yeah, it's the new Walgreens brand. There was a – somebody at work had bought some window cleaner from – I think from like the family dollar or the dollar general or something. And the name of the window cleaner is Wind-O. Like wind-OH exclamation point. Wind-O. Okay. I think it's clever. So does Dan. I love it. I forgot to tell you my favorite story from the Newsboys concert, right? Okay. So, me and Nathaniel go into this concert, right?

And I'm trying to tell Nathaniel – I'm trying to talk to him, you know? But my breath is smelly and I know it's smelly. And Nathaniel is doing his best to try to back away from me while I'm talking because I have stinky breath and I'm talking real close to him. And instead of saying, hey, man, your breath is smelly, he almost falls over trying to lean away from me. And I kept talking because he was trying to lean away from me. I'm like, he's going to have to say something. Like, I just – I know my breath has got to stink. That's why he's acting this way. And he didn't say anything. He just kept on leaning until eventually – he like – I mean, he stumbled over his own feet and ended up going three feet away from me. And he still didn't say anything. Like, through the whole time, he didn't say one word about it. And I thought, I need a breath mint and a friend that will say, Mike, you smell. Go ahead, Nathaniel. That's nice. Defend yourself. Well, his breath did stink. And I didn't want to hurt the man's failings, you know? Well, so I just didn't say anything. I just kind of leaned back, you know, let him do his own thing. I didn't even notice. We didn't talk that close, Dan. I don't get that close to people.

Yeah, I guess not. There's a bubble. You just stay out. Like, it was loud in there, so he had to lean in. He was like – Oh, you. Were those words actually said? Yes. Awesome. Oh, that's not heard. At least I was leaning away. Very good. So if you lean away, words automatically turn on. Hey, so I can't remember. So we were broadcasting for the Newsboys show, and we were testing out jokes, right? We needed an intro joke. And I think it was Parker from the chat on Thursday that gave me – that was talking about the hat going on ahead. Remember that? So I tried that out at church on Sunday, and it went over like hotcakes. So I'm going to steal it as my default joke, Parker. I think it was a good one, and I'm going to hold on to it. You only used it at the first service. I know because I don't need to test it out for the second one. Do you think they felt left out? I think they did. I think you kind of let them know they were left out.

I said, I'm not going to tell it. Maybe they should come to first service. That'll teach them. That's where the jokes are told. That's where all the jokes are wasted. First service is not funny. They hate everything. They're not awake a lot of times. They're just kind of like, yeah, okay, come on. Can we move on, please? I thought maybe they were just like deeply spiritual people who didn't like to see a whole lot of humor in the service. But community is pretty much the same way. They drag up there like Frankenstein, like someone who's just burning jolting them with some voltage, and they're just kind of warming up to the table. So let me ask you this. One of the things that I was really impressed, and I was impressed with the consistency that we've seen, talking to these bands when we broadcast from the Newsboys show, so we got to speak with Eli from the City Harmonic and the entire group from Anthem Lights. And then previous to that, at the John Waller concert, we got to speak with John Waller. And consistently across this, because I've been impressed at their humility, at people who spend time, who spend their life kind of going from place to place, and with some inconsistency in their home. Like I don't know that I could actually even wrap my mind around what my life would look like if I were like moving. That would be pretty rough. Yeah, if you were moving every night, like you're away from your family, if you're away from your kids, away from your church body.

And so I think we've asked all of them pretty consistently kind of what that looks like for them. And I've been consistently impressed with their reaction. Like it would be an excellent opportunity for them to say things like, oh, you know, it's really tough for us, and here are the problems that we have, and I get lonely, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Every answer pointed back to Christ. All of them talked about finding ways to give God glory through what they do, to build community through where they're at. All of them talked about, you know, just being thankful for the opportunities that they have to be able to lead the lives that they lead, even though it brought in circumstances where they have to be away from. Was it that Eli from the City of Harmonic has like kids? Like five kids. Yeah. All these people have five kids. Everybody's got five kids. John Waller's got like five kids. Eli had five kids. I only have two kids. That's why I'm not a musician. I have nothing that's really appropriate to say right now. I only have two. I get busy then. Yeah, you guys, you're in big trouble. Oh, man. Five kids.

But I don't know. I've been very impressed with that. And you've got to figure you've got to, through the broad swath of Christian musicians, you've got to have some fakes in there somewhere. Oh, yeah. Somebody's. Jesus. I love him again. You love Jesus? I love Jesus. We're best friends. Nine pairs of socks. Me too. Then they go out and say, do you see those losers out there? I seriously want to know what people say about us. Like, I don't really care about it. Like, I just think it would be totally humorous to see what people say about us when they get in their tour van. Oh, I don't think I'd want to know. No. I remember when Need to Breathe was here, and I was their driver for the week, or the day. You know, and they were sleeping. I mean, they've been on tour for 150 years, and I was like, I can't remember who it was. One of the guys came by, and I'm like, hey, I'm your. I can't remember the name now. What do you call it?

The driver guy. The chauffeur. Well, no. I mean, they have a name in the biz. You know, like, there's the merch table. There's the something. The runner. The runner. Something like that. Hey, I'm your runner. Do you need anything? And he kind of looked at me like, are you serious? What are you talking to me? I don't know. I mean, he just woke up. I don't want to be with you. He wasn't being arrogant. He was just like, well, I mean, did you just stick your face in his tour van, or did he come out and about? He came walking by. Okay, he's out in public, then. He needs to change his attitude. Yeah, I mean, he was in the, like, the back hallway going into the venue. You went out. He got off the bus. I mean, he was in the, like, the back hallway going into the venue.

You went out. It's dubstep. I fixed it. Dubstep. Did we just dubstep Life in the Path? Life in the Path, dubstep edition. Things are fine. Can I join you to do that again? Anyway, it was just kind of. I would like you to do that again. Can I get it, please? I can't. Go do it once. My phone was, my phone, my camera wasn't on. I wanted to get that. So, I mean, that was kind of awkward, because they were like, well, I don't know who you, I don't even know what town I'm in. You know, he just woke up. He'd been sleeping for hours in these little coffin things they have on the bus. And, you know, it was just like, dude, that's what they called it. You know, actually, now that you're talking about this, I think we've made a bad choice. We should really interview people who have, like, goods and services to offer in kind. You know what I'm saying? Like, basically, we're basically interviewing musicians who already, well, we're going to put their music out regardless whether we listen to it or not, right? Yeah.

Well, if we were to make friends with a coffee maker, a donut man, a pizza dude, a cleaning company, you know what I'm saying, good Christian contacts, you know, maybe we could get some stuff up in this place. Let's do a competition. Let's bring in Christian businesses, purveyors, and have them do live competitions on the show like the best Christian pizza in the Des Moines area. Yeah. And we'll have them provide services to us. Yeah. We'll be the judge of that. We'll do the live from the Path Awards. We'll act like it's a big deal. I like it. And then we'll just name and they'll say, look, bring us in a sample of your stuff. And even if one guy shows up, we're like, yeah, man, that's the best coffee we've ever had here. Because it is. So you're basically looking for endorsements for the show. No, no. Well, handouts is probably the best way to talk about it. Charitable givings. Free stuff. It's inappropriate to accept a direct tithe, you know. And so we figured we'd just avoid calling it the tithe. That's what I'm saying. We can't call it that.

We'll call it a handout. We could try to set aside a tenth for God bucket. But that pizza is going to start to stink after a while. Yeah. Yeah. He wants the first fruits. I mean, the best you got. That's the kind of leftover pizza. Oddly enough, that pepperoni seems to be staying good for years. Hey, you listen to Live from the Path. We are in the midst of our two-year anniversary show. Woo-hoo! Coming up here at 11 o'clock, we're going to play the two-year anniversary video. Everything we've done to embarrass ourselves, our families, and anybody that knows us will be going on at the 11 o'clock hour. You'll be able to see the collection of those clips. Also, we'll be talking about anything redeeming you may have pulled away from the show within the last year. Things that I have learned from Live from the Path and see what the other fellows in the studio have perhaps learned. And then we're going to give away some advice. And Mike's got himself entangled in the Christian blog this afternoon. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. Next week on the show, Chris Roloff is going to be in studio. And we're going to talk with the – so if I can't call him the donkey Christian man, what can I call him? No, call him donkey Christian man. Okay. We'll see if he corrects it. All right.

So the guy that he puts on, he has a donkey rodeo. It's basically a Bible camp. It's rodeo Bible camp. This is sounding better and better. So you learn how to do rodeo stuff, and they do some Bible study talking about Jesus? I've never been to a rodeo in my life. Really? Never. I haven't either. This is a place for you. It's in Missouri. It's kind of like when the musicians come in, and I'm like, yeah, so never mind. Yeah. I don't know anything about your life. Do you play like the guitar? You're right, Dan. Interview to the Stars. Exactly. They do the rodeo stuff and stuff like that at Westerwoods. They have, like, different camps, but that's one of them. What's the Westerwoods? Is that a prison? No. For young boys? It's a Christian camp out in Indiana. A camp for Christian boys.

The boys in prison. No. It's a Christian camp. Like, what's the one that Pathway is paired up with? CY Central Iowa Bible Camp? Central Iowa Bible Camp? That one. It's kind of like that, only different. No, it's not for convicts. You silly goose. Juvenile Christian boys. Juvenile delinquents. That's right. It's just like the show, Scared Straight. That's great. Where they yell at you. But that's not a juvenile delinquent. That's different. Oh. Yes. You can cut your hand off, or you can go to this camp. Double J, so what was your impression of the Newsboys show? What are your thoughts? Like, the whole show in general? Yeah, I mean, the whole experience. What did you take away from it?

I enjoyed it. I thought the three opening bands did amazing. I thought they had a lot of energy. I thought that, oh my goodness, fine. They were really exciting. They did a lot of cool things. They were good. I tried to pull everything I could from them. So yeah, they really impressed me. I was happy with the show. I tried to take their soda when they set it down. They totally caught me. I just took notes of the shoes. Hold on. Oh, you stole a soda from one of the bands at the Newsboys show? No. No. I tried. Remember when you tried to steal their pie, too? Yeah, yeah. Seriously. I did try to do that. Check this out. The show is over. The Newsboys show is over. And the church that we were doing this in, we had our stuff packed up.

And Dan wants to go tour the place because it's a pretty cool building space. We'll take a look at it and see what they're doing over here. Maybe we could see the floor plate. Yeah. So we go looking around and stuff. And somehow we, like, meander our way into where these groups are, like, staying. They have the green room area. Yeah. Green room. And they have their own separate rooms where they can retire to. So we go into this green room area. Huge room. And there must have been eight, ten pies. I mean, lots of pies. Sitting out. I mean, a ton of pies. Church lady pies. It had to be. Yep. Yeah, a ton of them. And Mike goes, we can eat that pie, right? Well, they were done. They're not going to eat this pie. I mean, there's no way. There were at least four of them already eaten. Yeah, four out of the ten pies.

There's no way they're eating six more pies. Like, we should have taken one. Probably should have. You think they would have said no if we'd asked them? Wouldn't that have been awkward? Hey, man, you guys getting all that pie? Yeah. We should have just said, hey, Mildred, when I was to get some pie, take it down to the kitchen. Is that okay? Mildred once said, oh, okay. That would have been a lie. Yeah, stop me, but that seems like a falsehood. I bet you someone in that church named Mildred who made a pie. I'm not lying. I'm playing the odds. I'm making a huge educated guess. You know, I wanted to know if they have contract writers that says, hey, look, when we get there, we want X number of pies, and we want definitely this kind of pie. They were awfully skinny. I don't think that happens every night. I think that's all they eat is the pie. Because if you eat pie every night, you look a lot more like me. No, not if you want to fit in them white Velcro pants they got on. Those are tight, man. Hey, let me ask you this.

What's the name of the guy that fronts the newsboys? Tate. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. So I went into the, we were broadcasting the thing, so I was watching it mostly out on our, from our station. But like, I went into the room, and like, when I went in, he was, he was like walking up on the catwalk thing. And then all of a sudden, it was somebody in front, and he points down at him, and he goes, like, big old, big old open eyes, like, kind of like a, and it was kind of freaky. And I thought, I thought, you've got to be careful how you act, like, if you're the front man on a Christian group. Only because, like, there's some things that seem a little out of place. Like, if Marilyn Manson has done that, it's not weird at all. But like, if you're singing, like, and Jesus loves you, and the big white eyes open staring right at you. Like, that's actually kind of creepy. I'm just saying, you have to think about yourself a little differently. You can't just front man it. I'm just enjoying watching the facial expressions of the guys as you tell the story. I don't even know what to take from what you just said. Like, it sounded like he got up on a catwalk and gargoyled at somebody, and then you're like, I'd be careful, buddy. With what you're gargoyled. With what you're saying. Did those eyes say, Jesus?

You know what he probably did? He probably went, shouldn't eat no, that pie. I can't believe in the pie. I can't believe in these white pants. I don't feel right. I also enjoyed when we were walking past the green rooms, and they had all the band's names on the doors, and after we had previously been told that newsboys were not going to talk to us, Mike over here goes, maybe we should go in and see him right now. See if they'll interview. What are they going to do? Hey, we're with the band. Here's the worst that's going to happen, right? Like, they'll leave the city and they'll go, remember that one guy? He was annoying. They won't remember. Hey, remember Mike Foose? I just gave him the gargoyle look. He was ridiculous. And I would just keep on living my life. Yeah, I want to know why they also had the name of the bands on the Kaibos outside. I think that was an ill-fated attempt to do, like, a vote for which band you liked the most, so you were supposed to… That's my good name. Wait, the Kaibo? They have a band to use their Kaibo. I'll give them a two.

Here's the worst job ever. The evaluator in that particular contest. The guy's job is to go into the Kaibo and, like, eyeball who has the most votes. Oh, it's certainly not done by… It's not done by sight. I think it's done by vote. So they've got to weigh it. They've got to weigh it. They've got to weigh it. Someone's got to go in, like, a shovel and a bucket and just, like, weigh it. It's really taking a turn for the worse. Anyway, they took the names off after, like, an hour, so I think they kind of realized that this is dumb and possibly really gross. Just kind of, yeah, it's not right. Because somebody goes out there and goes, are they in there? Is that the dressing room? That's what I thought. I thought they get their own special Kaibo out here with everybody else. That doesn't seem like much of a special… Coming through, newsboys. Got to go. I usually try to make a secret exit towards my bathroom visits. I generally don't announce it, put my name on it, and be like, Mike Fooster's in here. You know, it was weird, too, that they had security, like, kind of manning the Kaibos. But, like, if you were going to sneak in, you would sneak on the other side. But they had the guys between the venue and the Kaibo area, and I can't figure out the

guy who's, like, illegally getting into the show and then directly using the Kaibo. Like, I would assume he would just go right into the show. Actually, I thought those dudes were in line. I went rolling out there. I said, you in line, bro? And he just kind of went… I said, okay, then. That's weird. Why are you hanging out by the toilet? I like to listen to the Kaibo. Hey, so you've been listening to Live from the Path. I'm going to flip you over right now to check out our… This is our two-year compilation. This is the best of what we've produced here in the last year at Live from the Path. Live? I'm going to pick it up. Live from the Path. Here's the anniversary compilation. Please do enjoy it. Well, you're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. All right. You were listening to Live from the Path. Well, you're listening to Live from the Path. Welcome to Live from the Path.

We're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. You are listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. Oh, but I really just want to be able to do these heroin gang fights. Joe, go please. Welcome to Give Me Money. Your neighbors would never betray you. Ed, tell him you saw Billy at the fair. Yeah, she kind of looked like she was defending Ewok territory. Oh, is that stick? I think this is… Point the toes. Point the toes. There you go. Straight. My camera appears to be broken. Honey, I'm regrowing my teeth. Did I tell you that? Yeah. Stick. I'm doing it as the good Lord made me. 60% stiffness, but we've got a lot of apologies. Come on! Where's that snake? We are Leo.

Ba-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. That is one crazy lady. I'm not happy. I love you. Fellas, how often do you cut your hair? How often do you get your hair cut? How often do you get your hair cut? How often do you people get your hair cut? Even Jesus people use me. With 100% chance of rain, as is raining right now. That's Troy Spanglinger. Hey, dude. It's going to smell like a fish hut in there. Good shot, Winston. Trends are up. Salaries are down. Oh, not for us, eh? Yes, my God. Team 13. Stur. Comes after 12. You mean what? I mean. I actually spit in their coffee. I traveled with a small cat. Is that going to be all right?

Let's do that classic bit about you and Dan's shirt. The last time that happened in front of a group of this size, I wet myself and spent the rest of the 8th grade in a small room. Stop that. That's cheesy. I once flew in high heels. It was a total mistake. At the tent stage. And Chris Roloff comes. Okay. I'm like, there goes that guy. And his butt. No. Hello. Although the guy on the far right is fetching. He did. I chose a Jimmy job. I went. I went. I went. Pretty good. I was saying. Sometimes I wish I was part of the bands that come in here. And that would be awkward moments. I could go with them. And you could go out in the parking lot and say,

don't see anything here. Let's drive a little to the quick trip. And then we'll talk about it. Come on. Shake it. It's not a harp. Come on. Can I get that and make my dance? That's a mistake. I thought it was a fucking boom. Shut up. The guy's got a drunk newspaper up there. Music by four. I'll check it out. Is that the fried pickle sandwich? It's about the people. Fried pickle cheeseburger sandwich. I've never had a fried pickle. He tells that joke again. We're going to have to toss him. Like a Wisconsin thunderstorm. Dan to dan. What's the Hebrew for number two? Wait a minute. That sounds like my food. It's not dead.

He was still alive. Pancake. Pancake. Syrup. Actually, I've been brushing my teeth for 29 years, and I seem to be hitting this. We're doing what the cool people do. We love men to be so. Yeah. Yeah. We love men to be so. Dan, that's ridiculous. Dan, that's ridiculous. Whiz-bang. That's got some zip. Out of my dreams. Get in the backseat, baby. You can't put Jesus in a song where they use the phrase, get in the backseat, baby. The piattas. A little easier to look at than Mike. It's called the blueberry ugly. The Solomon Show, and welcome back to The Solomon Show, where we spend time on the three W's, wisdom, wives, and war with Palestine. My in-studio guest tonight is my arch nemesis, Secular.

Thanks for coming on. Before we get started, let me just say this. You, sir, are a punk. The Solomon Show. A new television show called Gunsmoke. I'm not it. Hello, ladies. Now back to that. Now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me. But if he stopped using ladies-centered body wash and switched to Old Spice, he couldn't smell like it. The theme of the Life from the Path program is find cool people, bring them in, and then kind of parasite yourself onto them. We're also talking to Andy and Kelly. Supernaw's live in studio. Double J's in studio. We Are Leo is in studio. Rick Charlton's in. We are joined by John Waller. Hey, John. In studio, we got Pants Talkbox Sweatstone. We're in studio with Kevin Lindgren. Jessa and Jordan Anderson have joined us in the studio. We are joined by Don Hensley. Shane Vanhart is in studio with us.

Wayne Stewart is here. Chris Day. Jeff Arendale and company are in studio today. My monkeys. When we were younger, we had monkeys. God said that we are to make love. Modest is hottest. I'm moving to Europe. I'm going to tell you something. This is the best show we've ever done. And that was the Life from the Path, two-year compilation. I do hope you enjoyed it. That was beautiful. I love the Solomon Joe. That's awesome. I forgot all about that. The Solomon Joe. You're a punk. My arch-emesis. Secular. So I obviously had to cut some of that because that… Oops. Jeff Arendale fired up. That's it. That was from… So that was from our transition.

When we moved from the old studio to this one, there was a gag in which I pretended as if Mike and Dan were not in the studio. We pre-recorded it at the old one. And then I acted like Solomon showed up and started talking to me. And then he cut up and he took over the show and he won the Solomon Show. So that's where that original clip is from. And I realized technically today when I was looking through the clips that it's actually more than a year old. I cheated on the Solomon Show. I was hoping the clip from a couple weeks ago, what did Ben say? Ben said something that was just ridiculous. Oh, no. It lacked taste. Oh, that's why I didn't make it? Yeah. Yeah. It could have been construed as an inappropriate euphemism. And so I had to cut it. Because I was actually listening to the clips and it said, boy, that one's going to make the highlight reel. And I was like, aha, it makes my job easier. And I listened back and I'm like, nope, nope, that can't make it. That won't make it. That can't make the highlight reel. All right. So that was Live from the Path.

That particular two-year clip is posted on our YouTube channel right now. You can go through and check that out. Go to youtube.com backslash Live from the Path. You can check out that as well as other clips from the show, including recent clips from Jeff Arundale. I will have clips from Adam Cates. We had a rough week because we were broadcasting from that Newsboys show. So I didn't get Adam's clips posted. But I'll get those out there sometime this week probably. And then hopefully some clips from our Newsboys broadcast. So we got a good amount of Anthem Lights show and some from an abandoned in the City Harmonic as well as little bits of the Newsboys. So we'll try to get that posted within the next few weeks as well. You can get all that stuff on our YouTube channel. That'd be solid. Yeah. All right. So watching that, obviously we get diverted off topic and say some weird stuff sometimes during the show. So, but on the other side of that, my question to you guys is, is there anything, if you look at the past year of say our broadcast on Live from the Path, is there anything you can point to and say my spiritual life has grown or changed or been enlightened or whatever through things that we have talked about, done, said, whatever on the program? So like, like it is broadly, we could be asking, is there any redeeming benefit from the program as a whole besides us, besides that two year anniversary clip? So I don't know.

Maybe that's my question. Have you, is there anything that you can think of that you say, like, I kind of, this has helped me, this has benefited me, or I've gotten something out of say our last year of broadcast. What are your thoughts? I'll start. Okay. In all honesty, it just, I, I love being here on the radio show with you guys. I get hounded quite a bit from you guys because some of my points looking back on them made absolutely no sense. I'll be honest. Wait, you look back at them? I watch the show every once in a while. Like, I'll sit down and I'll watch hours of what we've talked about and I'm just growing in my walk. It's funny because I look at myself and I'm just like, you know, what was I thinking when I said that? Like, that was a really, really bad point and that made absolutely no sense. But on the lighter side of it, you know, the fellowship first off with you guys, obviously we're kind of a tight knit family after the last couple of years. I hope so. I'm the weird stepbrother or whatever you want to call me. But pick the family member that we talk about when you're not here. That's who you are. That's me. Exactly.

Alzheimer's Uncle Steve. I'm the creepy cousin. Seriously, he doesn't remember anything. But not only the fellowship, but, you know, being able to relate this to actually talking to people about Christ, like being able to say, you know, talking to my buddies, just like my close friends and saying, oh, what are you doing tonight? I got the radio show. People ask me all the time, well, you're on a radio show. What do you guys play? It stinks you have to qualify it with. It's not legitimate radio. No, I just tell them. I'm like, it's internet radio and it's a Christian talk show. We have musical bands on, musical bands. We have musical acts on, Christian musical acts from around the way. Come on. We have a lot of fun talking about a lot of hot topics and then a lot of fun just messing around entirely, just not talking about anything. But in all actuality, it's been awesome for me just to be able to use that as another segue into talking to someone about Christ. And that alone has been an awesome thing. But personal growth of just talking about things that I thought I was right about, but then having the bounce board of three dudes that really like to yell at me when I make absolutely no sense. I like yelling. Exactly.

You know, if my points are really dumb and make absolutely no sense, I'm told very quickly. And that's a good thing in the long run. It may be horrible while it's happening and I get embarrassed and I'm a hardheaded guy. Horrible while it's happening and I get embarrassed. Go ahead. Well, thank you. I like reverb of myself. But just, I mean, being able to relate what we've talked about on the show, talking to other people about Christ, and then also in my personal walk, having everybody on the show be able to tell me when I'm wrong and pat me on the back when I'm right sometimes, which has never happened. You didn't make a highlight real. I was going to say, I was kind of like throwing that out there, like maybe it'll eventually happen. But I don't think you will. I wouldn't hold your pen. I'm not going to. But no, I love you guys. I love being on the show. It's so much fun. And it's definitely 100% been an awesome year and been completely worth it for me. You know, I get the two things that I get most out of the show is I can bring all my heavy questions, right? Like if something will happen during the week and I always get, like I'll read something in the Bible or I'll see something happen, you know, and I'll be like, that don't seem Jesus.

And then I'm thinking, well, it might be Jesus. I don't know. And then I think about it and I'm like, I don't know. This doesn't sound like something that I need to be answered, care about. And then I call Ben and I say, Ben, here's what we're going to talk about on the show. And then I like to watch it bounce out. Sometimes it's super easy and I just didn't read the right Bible verse or do enough study and find out how God feels on it. And sometimes it's kind of in the grayer area of the Bible, the Holy Spirit area, I call it, where the Holy Spirit answers things. And maybe it's up to personal discernment or personal preference or maybe it's not a decision to be made as a corporate church. And like those questions will come across me and I get really excited because I got a place to talk about them, right? Instead of stewing it at home by myself or, you know, I'll ask my wife and she'll be like, I don't know. Call Ben or Dan. And so that's what I do. I just save it. I do everything. And then we talk about it and, you know, we hash it out until I feel good at the end of the program. I'm like, well, it's like when you go buy a new couch or something, you're like, all right, at least I don't have to worry about buying a couch for a while. That is done. Same thing with these questions, right?

Like I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, gay marriage. And then we'll talk about it and be like, that is why I think what I think. Thanks, fellas. Done and done. I don't have to think about it anymore, you know? Like I just don't want to have to worry about that stuff. And if someone, and kind of like what Troy said, you know, if I'm talking to somebody, especially a more legalist person who doesn't know Jesus, it's good to have some answers to some stuff, you know? It's good to be an informed worshiper of Christ and have some background and some reasons and some logic. And I get a lot of that from the show. The second half is I meet a ton of cool people who love Jesus and they inspire me like no other. You know what I'm saying? Like even when I feel, you know, like maybe I'm not doing quite as well as I could, I feel a little disconnected from God. We'll have bands come in here. We'll have speakers come in here. We'll have, you know, local musicians come in who love Jesus and they are just a working and I'm like, you're right. What am I, what am I doing? You're right. You're right. You guys got this thing. I mean, you know, it's just, it's really encouraging to see people doing that to know that, you

know, of course, I mean, they're not working a real job. So, I mean, I, anyway, it's not like they're employed in a door factory or something. Yeah, you know, I digress. I mean, it's not like they're part of society. They're just kind of, they're floating on the outside. Here's what they sound like. I'm working on my next project. Yeah, that doesn't equal I went to work at eight this morning. It's like, I got up at 10 and I thought, I should call so-and-so. And then I signed up for the Twitter account under three different names. My turns are coming. I priced, I priced poster board for my new show coming up in Mahaska. And I'm not. Why? Why me? Why is this all coming down on me? Do you have a show in Mahaska? I live, I lived in Mahaska County. No doubt. Hey, the Holy Spirit just tells me what to say. If you feel convicted, whatever your name is, I'm just saying. Anyway, that's it. That's what I generally get from the show. Okay, are you up? Is your turn? Okay, go ahead.

Go ahead. What time did you get up this morning? Just tell me. I got up at eight o'clock this morning, made phone calls from 8.30 to three. You shut off your alarm clock and then went back to bed? No. You acted like you were making phone calls? No. You doodled on a notepad? I did not. I actually did write a song today, but it's not the point. Okay. Just the title. Even though I haven't been on here so many times, like I'm not here as much as you guys are, but when I do come here and when I do watch it, it's cool. Like you all said, it's a cool place to talk about stuff that you have questions on. And even if I don't have questions, I just get to listen in and hear all this bounce around and kind of let it flood in. And it's one of the funnest places for me personally because it's really cool to be surrounded by guys who support me and what I do and are willing to give me a platform to share that. And I think I speak for a lot of the musicians who come on here, how grateful we are for you guys because you give us opportunities that not a lot of other people will give us. You give us an opportunity to come on the internet to speak of who we are, what we do, to do a little bit for the people watching. And I do speak for a lot of people saying how grateful we are for that and how awesome it is to actually be here.

And it's really cool just to be here as me, not to be here as like a special thing, just to hang out with you guys because you guys are really some of the funnest guys that I know. Even Troy though, right? All of them, all of you guys. And it really is a joy for me to come here and it's really cool to listen to you guys. And you know what? In the back of the door factory comment made by Ben, I do not work there anymore. I quit that job and I'm doing this as a full-time career. And I do work. Oh, so you had a real job and then you quit it. All right, you know what? I don't need this. That's not fair. No, you know what? The Holy Spirit God guided me to do this, so I'm going to do it. And I don't care what anybody thinks. Yeah, God, I've tried it your way with this real job and whatever. I'm just going to kind of do what you want. Bless me. This paycheck really bogged me down. Hey man, my prayer for like three years was like, God, please give me an excuse to be lazy for the rest of my life. I'll call it my creative time where I'm really working up my ideas. All right, God, from eight to nine, I will do calls. But from nine till midnight, I'm going to do me time, which may consist of many things.

Maybe jumping off the couch, acting like Superman. Maybe writing a new song or playing Game Boy. Whatever it may be, God, please bless my time. You hear a lot of musicians say, you know, I get most of my inspiration from just watching people. That sounds like you're sitting on your butt. I'm at the mall. Excuse me to go to the mall. I wish I got a paycheck for being inspired to sit there and watch people. You know what I'm saying? That is the job. Hey, there goes that guy. He's skinnier than the last guy that came. This inspires me to write a song. That's crazy. He's a kidder, man. I bet he's had a hard life. I wonder what that life was like. If I had a hard life, it'd be like this. I'm going to throw baby in here and this song is done. Skinner man and baby. And bless it. And bless it. Dubstep. You're listening to Live from Plath. We're talking about if there are any redeeming qualities for the show.

We're not making a valid argument. Over the last year, have you seen any spiritual growth or something from the show that you could point to and say, I've seen some changes or growth or some understanding of my life through the show? Dan, did you have any? You know what? I was thinking about that. And first, Peter says that we should always be prepared to give an answer for the hope. You know, if someone asks, you know, the hope that we have within us. And I'm kind of the guy who I'll come to a conclusion about something. You know, I might go into even extensive research and study a topic and then I'll come to a conclusion and then I walk away from that study and I forget all the details and I just know my conclusion. And a lot of those conclusions that I have in my life, you know, were made 20 years ago. You know, so now it's been 20 years down the road. I was in college or early years of marriage or whatever, you know. And if someone were to ask me, like you guys often do, you know, hey, here's a topic. Let's talk about this. I have to sit and think about it. I just know what the conclusion is, you know, and it's been good for me to have to go back and think through again sometimes. Oh, I don't I don't remember how I came to that conclusion. I knew it made really good sense. That's why I was good enough with it to say, yeah, you know, I got the details that's going on with my life. Right. So that would be my challenge for you guys. Like you were saying, OK, I got that. I don't think about it. Don't quit thinking about it. Dang it, Dan.

That was my bonus for the show. I know it. There you go. Because 20 years now, someone will say, oh, yeah, what do you think about this? You go, oh, this is what I think. Well, how come? What do you think about murder? I don't know. I'm not for it, OK? I'm fairly certain. So it's been a stretch for me to have to really think again. You know, I mean, that sounds kind of bad. I've been pretty much close to the last 15 years. It's been a stretch for me to really think again. Mark that one for the three-year take. That's going to make it. That's perfect. People have been eating the Dan Hudson brand of potato chips for years without any complaints. And now I get here and it's like, Dan, what do you get that? Obviously, I study a text, you know, and I'll restudy. But as far as topical things, you know, I just forget. And that's a violation of Scripture itself. I should always be ready to give an answer for the hope that I have. And sometimes I'm not. We're glad you're thinking again. It keeps me on the toes a little bit on the edge of my seat.

And I still sometimes go, I, you know, I, I, I, I. That shirt. That's Dan's classic. You're saying that differently. I'm going through cobwebs. Breaking through dendrites. Dendrites? Dan, that's above the scale of the show. You can't use words like that here. Memory glands. Dan starts thinking. Things really start coming out. Yeah, I'm really going to impress you. Let's take a break from the thinking for a while. I better slow down. My head hurts. But that, and also I agree with, you know, that we have some pretty cool, you know, the circle of relationships have grown quite a bit. And it's, it's kind of cool. There's a lot of people I just see in places that go, I know them, you know, and, and they actually acknowledge you, which is kind of cool. Because most people don't acknowledge me after they really know me, so they moderately know me. You boys know that boy with two J's? Two of them? Duplicate J.

That's me. Two XJs. It's what I do. I don't know. Pants, Nathaniel, did you guys, did you guys want to weigh in or? What? I don't watch the show. Okay, fair enough. Pants, what do you got? It's my answer. Okay, Pants. I can't remember this in the year or it was two years ago, but over this year, Street Jesus has really, always comes up in my head. I think about it and I realize it's a lot easier to see Christ and stuff and easier to bring him up with all that stuff. And then, possibly even more important, boots and cats. Boots and cats are epic. That was really meaningful to me. Yeah, Pants, it meant a lot. It's reached the masses. Thank you. Boots and cats. Yeah, rock the boots and cats. I can't do it. And throw the washing machine in there too because that's the best part. Pants knows where his limits are.

I tried throwing a cat in the washing machine. That's a bad idea. Yeah, um, you got, no, don't, don't do that. I don't. Okay, hold on a minute. Okay. So, I, I'm friends with this dude on Facebook that I went to high school with, right? I don't know him that well, but he's in a, he's in like a death metal band. I saw this guy. Winning. Okay, so, he's winning. Hold on, hold on. Here's what, here's what he posts on his Facebook, right? Buried a steer's head by our practice spot, then took a hog's head and placed it in Agronix's sacred grove of pain and death. May winter come soon and freeze this vile realm. Uh, 21 minutes ago near Pleasant Hill. Sounds like an episode of Oprah. This same guy put pictures of himself, like, walking around in a big cape with his face painted. And I don't know where he got this fake human skull, I assume it's fake, but he had it in his hand. It was open, right? Uh, holy cats. Somebody liked it. Uh, all right.

Uh, it's me, huh? So, I would say, I have like, I have a personal item, and, and, uh, the personal item is, uh, that I've learned from the show, is that, oddly enough, I am not very good at facilitating a conversation. Uh, like, I can ask questions and keep one going, but, but, uh, I'm, I'm generally the last guy to talk. Like, when we have long conversations about something, I, I will, I dominate the end of it, and then it is just done. Uh, and that's a, that's a problem. If you're trying to talk to someone about Christ, it is almost, it's, it's their relationship, not yours, right? Or their questions, not yours. Um, and a lot of times they're working out through their conversation, um, and, and you were there to kind of help facilitate, like, where those thoughts are going and to keep the point in the right direction. Dan is, is very good at this. Uh, Dan Hudson is, is awesome at doing that very thing, is helping people, is facilitating a, people's own conversations. Like, they're, they're talking with themselves, um, and Dan's there to kind of keep it on track, and, and I don't know whether you realize this is what you're doing or not, but, I mean, you're, you're very good at that. And, uh, I, you know, one of the things I learned from the conversation that we have, especially when we're talking to something that is, that is, you know, pretty, you know, deep Jesus, deep Bible, is that I will let other people talk, and then I will talk, and I'll talk for five minutes, and then it'll just be done. And, like, the conversation will be over.

That's good. You said so much, and you used big words, and me and Troy can't understand what happened. I understand. You're on Dictionary.com now. What did that mean? I guess, but that's a, that's a detriment, um, when you're having to, to… Are you calling me silly? I've made mistakes. Let me put it that way. It's something I can learn. What did you say about me? Um, and, you know, the other thing I would say about, about the show that's been beneficial for me is that, um, it mixes, uh, it, it opens up a part of, of a normal person's part of their life to Christ that I think otherwise we sometimes separate, which is their, your, their entertainment, right? As if, as if, you know, I, this is what entertains me. This is where I worship. Uh, God is implicitly not entertaining, so we can't have that in the same breath. Um, and this show, uh, is a consistent thing for me. It happens, it happens every Monday night, and, yeah, there's a little bit of planning that goes into it, but frankly, not much, right? It's just, there's just not a ton. It's, it's a random thing. It's like, oh, well, that's interesting. Oh, I, you know, I may, I have a question or two about that. Uh, that's an interesting story.

Why do people think this way? You know, that, that's basically it. Um, but, but, but it mixes, like, I can, you can have fun and talk about Christ. I mean, you, you, that, Jesus should be involved in every part of your world, and that includes sitting around and having a lot of fun with the, with the guys talking about stuff. Uh, and that, that's why it's sometimes we're talking about donkeys. Sometimes we're talking about straight up Jesus stuff. You know, that, that mixture has always been kind of the goal. And, um, and, and I like that it integrates a very, what is a very fun and engaging part of my life every week. Um, that's the question. And it lets Jesus live there as opposed to like kicking him out and saying you belong on Sunday or when I'm having a heavy conversation with somebody. Well, why don't other people think it's funny? Why do other people hate the show, Ben? Uh, I think other people think it's funny. It's not funny. Now, hold on. It's not funny enough to stay up to 10 o'clock. My friend just told me it was entertaining. Well, there you go. Yeah. Thanks, friend. My buddy, my buddy, my buddy, Kyle just said it was entertaining. There you go. Buddy, we appreciate it.

He enjoys it. They appreciate you, Kyle. Is it Troy they don't like? I think so. I would understand it. Is it the Beads? Here, here's a, a very personal thing that has, that I've worked on through this. It's, uh, and it's going to come up in Ephesians. We're preaching through Ephesians right now, you know, and there's a portion in there that says, uh, I was just trying to look it up. I can't remember how exactly it's worded because now I'm memorizing. I just remembered. I thought it was great. I have somewhere between the NIV and the ESV. So the word, the words jumble sometimes in my whole rediscovery. Anyway, the point is, you know, uh, there should be no unwholesome talk, course, joking, that, that, that, that text and, um, my whole life, I tend to have a quick response verbally to people and often it's inappropriate. I mean, since I was a kid and, um, so I have to continually make, you know, you got to put that filter in to make sure I don't say something inappropriate, you know, and, and it might not even be like terrible, but just, it really is inappropriate, you know, and oftentimes it has the double meaning that's just a little on the nasty side and I act like I don't know, but of course, I, of course I did it on purpose, you know, and so I've done pretty good job over the, you know, last 25 years, but I've really stopped on that. But when we started this, you know, and there's been a few times if you go through and listen, I mean, I've said some things, you guys will look at me like, Dan, I don't know where to

go for this, you know, and it's because I, you know, I, it, again, you have to think it, stop it. It's, it's engaged my mind again. Cause I kind of relax. I come in here and say, Hey, you know, well, and if you think like, like this is probably most aptly the biggest conversation you have in a week, you don't say it's a two hour long conversation between four or five, six people, whatever, you know, like I don't go to that many meetings, whatever. I don't do that kind of big talking. It's the biggest conversation and the longest, longest conversation I have. And you can't go anywhere. Even the, the, the, either the conversation drops completely or it's really tough. And you know, you're going to come out looking like a, a doofus. You can't leave, you know, you just have to stay and keep doofusing it out. I call it the Troy. I actually, the part where you, uh, you just start saying stuff and then immediately regret what you said. Actually, I'm going to tell you one thing about Troy, nobody, nobody humbles himself faster when he's totally beaten to a corner. This is Troy's move right here. I was listening to a show a couple of days ago and Troy goes like this. Yeah. Boy, I really apologize. That really sounds, now that you say it like that, I think I'm completely wrong on that. I just have to have it said back to me and I'm just like, ah, that was really stupid. I think I've witnessed this one twice.

Why did I just say that? A little bit on the show twice. The worst part is, is when Ben catches you doing it, because Ben's the worst about it. So he goes, so what you mean is that you like to kill small children. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. He's saying the most blunt term and I'm just like, eh. He takes what you said and then breaks it down to the smallest possible piece. So what you're saying is you're okay with murder. And I'm just like, wow. That's exactly what you said. No. That was the recent conversation. That was the conversation. That was the conversation. Dude, I sat there and literally, you guys don't realize, but after the show, nine times out of ten, we're sitting here and it was like, ah. That kind of was stupid, wasn't it? We'll be sitting here right afterwards and I'll be just like, man. Sometimes the best conversations are related. We got to keep the cameras rolling. Yeah, exactly. That's the best thing. Right after midnight, I sit there. After the show. Just tell me you turned the cameras off and I'll just be like, man.

Mike, I was an idiot. That's when I use all of my coarse language is after midnight. I need to start sticking around. We all just break down entirely. It's live from the blue path. Lessons from the path. So you are listening to Live from the Path. We're in the middle of our second anniversary show. Big 2-0 minus 19. I hope you're not trying to watch the show in the corner of your house in the dark while other people are sleeping. Because that would have just done it. Thank you for hanging out with us. Hey, real quick to you guys that are hanging out on the chat, I do want to thank you so much. It is way different on our end when there's people kind of active and engaged with what's going on. And frankly, it doesn't matter whether you're paying attention to our conversation or not, even if you're talking amongst yourselves. There's just something that gives a little bit of vibe to the show. And so we really do appreciate you guys hanging out. So we're getting something out of it in here. I hope you're getting something out of it out there. If anybody would like to donate financially to the show, that's a mistake. Don't do it. We told you it's a low-end operation. Don't waste your money.

Spend all checks to my house. Yeah, we did, through our history, have legitimate radio through someone who did donate. What was it, an hour a month or two months? Yeah, J.C. Walker, who's a local real estate agent, had donated an hour a month to us to put our show on AM 940. Yeah, that was kind of cool. That was. It was kind of fun. How long of a stint did we have on AM 940? Two months. Well, it's not in our defense, but he stopped his show completely on AM 940 then. So I don't think it was in recoil from our poor showing, but who knows? He probably got too many letters. He said, I don't have time to answer all this. Yep, yep, yep, yep. What was that? What would be the biggest news story you think that we covered this year on the show? Like one of the biggest conversations or the biggest? The end of the earth. You think it was? Yeah. I think it was too, actually. Harold's camping into the earth. We had the end of times dude come in here. Yeah. I read an article that said Harold can't apologize for his actions and his words, and he now believes

that no one can predict the end of the earth. I think he should have got that from when it said that not even the angels can predict the end of the earth. That's usually my first clue that I cannot do it. You know, if the sun himself can't do it, if Jesus can't do it, then I have no science that I can do, which is like third grade level, is going to figure it out. Well, if the stars align here with this planetary circle, we're going to die. Yeah. You know what? But I'm just going to get up at nine and just see how this day kind of plays out. I'm going to call a dude, sit on hold for 45 minutes, hang up, and go back to bed. Yeah. You know, I don't put, I mean, I'm not saying he didn't apologize, but I mean, after you've been proven to be, say, biblically a false prophet, there's nowhere to go. Multiple times. Yeah. But apology, this wasn't like his first, hey, this is the day. I mean, this wasn't, what's the fourth or something? Yeah. I mean, the best part was like, what was it, last May? He like predicted the end of the world like last May, and he's like, it was the spiritual beginning of the end. Yeah. That's what he said with all four of them, actually, is that it was a spiritual thing until this last one, where he went away for a while, did a little reading in the Bible and stuff, and then he's come back on the radio show and apologized to everybody and said,

an apology for the radio show. I think if he really meant the apology, he'd come on live from the path and apologize. I think so, too. I think he's like, hey, guys, I read the last half of the Bible, finally, after 30 years, and I realized that the ending is not quite the same as one of the worlds. It's not, it doesn't mix. It gets a lot happier. What really happened is I read. I stopped in Habakkuk. What a mistake, you know? There's so much more. I just stopped at the end of Isaiah. I was like, man, what's this up? I wonder who this guy coming is. He sounds important. Yeah, he sounds great. Why read the rest? They'll be over in May. I came to find out a little girl switched out my Bible for War of the Worlds, and I'm sorry for that happening. I was unaware of this mistake. I'm getting older. I don't know. Someone had accidentally written in the margins, you will say when the world ends, and I thought, well. She's like, no doubt.

The Holy Spirit totally talks to me. And I was probably, you know, that's probably the way I've been speechless many times, but listening to the guy explain how they got to that date, I just sat there, and there were so many false statements, I couldn't keep up. In my head, I'm going, well, but, and then gone to the next one, I'm like, oh, but, you know, the whole, I just, the whole, I went home going. Double J, did you ever see the show where we had the guy, we didn't have camping on here, but we had the local guy, the guy that paid for all the billboards? I did not, but I'm curious about how this went. I want to hear this. It was interesting. You should have him back on, and then talk to me. Actually, he defriended me. After the show. He defriended you? Yeah, after the show, like, I kept in contact with him until the end of times, because he kept writing back to me, like, repent of your ways, and he basically came on the show and said, me, Ben, and Dan aren't going to make it, because we still were part of the church, and he had to renounce the church, so I'm like, you know, we love Jesus, and we believe in God and all that thing, we can't, we can't, it's too late, we're done, and he goes, yes, if you're still a part of the church, then, yes, unfortunately, you're going to hell. He was a pretty straight shooter. Yeah. I mean, he thought it like he thought it was. We're like, well, okay, let's say we leave tonight and run out of the church, so how do

we know we're in? Well, it's kind of up to one on himself to kind of decide. You've got to get a tattoo of a baby dragon on your back. That means you're good. It's on YouTube. It's on our YouTube channel. You can see. It's actually a really, it's a lengthy conversation. It's a good conversation, and after the rapture came and didn't happen, I sent him an email, and I said, look, I don't know what it's like to be you right now. It seems like being an awkward. It's always a good way to start. Man, it was really such to be you. I write like I talk. It just seems like it's what I'd have said, so I figured that's what I'm going to write. So I said, I don't know what it's like to be you right now, but if you've got anything you want to talk about, I'd love to still hang out and be friends with you. We'd love to have you back on the show just to get your take. And then after that, he said, no, I'm fine, and then de-fringing me on Facebook. What would you be going through at that point in time? You just invested your entire life into the end of the world, and it didn't happen. You wake up the next day like, oh, I didn't expect this to happen. I don't know what's going on. Me and my mom were sitting in on the rapture came and it didn't happen. And four buses with the end is coming, May, all the dates and stuff on it rolled into the parking lot and all parked next to each other, and they were just hanging out in the

Walmart parking lot. I can just imagine that conversation. They're like, let's make eye contact. Now what? Like, so? We going camping? So my life savings is gone, and I sold my house and my dog, and I dropped my donkey off in the desert. So now what do I do? Where do we go from here? You know what I'd have a hard time is being like a 12, 13-year-old kid, and my parents have bought into it. Oh, I could never respect my mom and dad again. Like, remember that time you sold all our stuff? You sold my bike. That time we were homeless, and because a microphone with gravel in it told you that the world was going to end. Oh, man. Like, I think about the Harold Camping thing, like how crazy that was. I am just going to be blown away when December comes this year. Oh, man. Because that's like the big one. That's like, everyone's like, oh, we're all going to die on December 21st. Yeah. You know, that's got to be the stupidest thing to hinge your end of the world on. Like, even if you were not, let's say you're not Jesus-believing, right?

Just because some lazy Mayan many years ago decided to stop with the cow. He's like, you know what? That's far enough. We're not going to continue any farther than this. I've looked into it a little bit because I have no life like that. I don't have a job anymore. I actually saw this guy that's like nasty, dude. He's like, it's not the end. It's just the end of one of their groups that they began another cycle after that. So it's like, you're wasting your time. It's not even right. I saw a YouTube video of a dude. He's like, he started off with, how many Mayans do you know? They disappeared. Like, it's like history that the Mayans just, poof, gone. Like, how do we know? Right. They didn't have the foresight to keep the race a-running. You know what I'm saying? Their whole similar situation was destroyed. Steve, we need you to be alive long enough to see if this is right, okay? Yeah. Their health camping was like, hey, Mayans, we're going to, you know, the world's going to end soon. And they just abandoned ship and ran away. He's just sitting there in his hut drinking and smoking.

Oh, yeah, I'll be there. No problem. Yeah. I'll totally be there for that, man. Because when do you trust a race that could not perpetuate themselves? Like, that you put all our faith in a group of people that could not say, stay alive. Eat something. No. No. No. I'm okay. He's like, let me pencil that into my calendar. Wait, wait, it ended. I don't know what to do. My calendar's over, guys. I don't know what's going on. Was that Mayan with two A's? Two A's. I love the cartoon that has the Mayan, like, drawing in the very end. He's like, hey, I ran out of room. The other guy says to him, he's like, yeah, someone's going to be really freaked out about this someday. I saw that. Have you guys seen the, there's like a Facebook post going around about the daylight, no, was it daylight savings time? No, it was leap year.

Yeah. Leap year was never accounted for until, like, when? Like, not recently. Recently, and they didn't account for all the leap year, so that's, like, another eight months, so the world should have ended, like, already? No. No. The leap year was instituted when they put in the Gregorian calendar. They didn't need one before because they kept the days differently. Hey, don't do this with Ben's around. This is what Ben's does. Ben's does this kind of stuff. No, actually, so when they changed calendars, there was a third. I didn't mean to open up a gateway for you, Ben. No, sorry. This was interesting, though. Like, when they changed between these two calendars. No one else read it but you. Just a minute. I want to hear it. I want to hear it. There was, there's 13 days that were lost. They did it in, like, the, it was, like, the 16 or 1700s or wherever. Um, and they switched calendar systems and, and part of that, to make up for miscalculations on the first calendar, they had to start the next calendar 13 days later than the first one.

And so, like, there was a point in time in which you could, you know, you go to bed on March 2nd and you woke up on March 15th or 16th because of the change in the calendar. That's interesting. Ben, I don't know if that was, like, a serious one or that was, like, a really sarcastic one. That was interesting. That was interesting. That was educational. You know what? I do appreciate that. So, wait. How do Jesus know when to come back? I'm confused. So, does that, like, discredit the leap year thing? Yeah. Yeah, because. Okay, so that was my only, like, inch of hope that, like, the world wasn't going to end. So, now I'm going to be, like, boarding up my house. That's still going to happen. So, you're saying it's Thursday now or what? So, what do we do with this? See, I think God kind of tells us that we need to prepare like it's the end of the world every day. So, I'm not going to board up my home and store cans in my basement every day. No, you're totally misusing that verse. Yeah, dude.

I wasn't really using a verse. I don't really use the Bible. I say what I want to say. I'm Harold Campbell. I use the whole world. You guys really want to do it. I use the Troy Bible verse. That is the point of multiple verses that Jesus talked about, the ten virgins, in several places, is every day, be ready as if it's today. It could be now. What's up? But I don't think Jesus meant, like, bomb shelter yourself every day. He means, what's up, Mike? He put it in a relationship. He did. Yeah. But he wasn't talking about, like, hey, guys. It's because you can't take shelter from his coming. Exactly. What physically are you going to do to prepare yourself? No, I don't know. The rapture. It's not going to have my closet. I can see him sitting here with, like, the aluminum foil hat. Like, okay. No.

I'm going to be good now? This is what happens when we don't follow the Pope. That's what you guys are. Oh, sweet goodness. The Pope. That's right. The Pope. That's Pope Gregory that had the Gregorian counter. Hold on a minute. Oh, man. Somebody wrote, that was a phrase I wrote, I read in the Christian blogs today. Okay. Someone wrote, someone said something. He goes, this is what happens when everybody doesn't follow a Pope. I don't. A Pope? No matter what Pope. Just a Pope. You're going to choose a Pope? Who's the Pope right now? I think he's like Pope John Smith V or something like that. He's not close enough. I can't hear what he says. Go ahead. Say something witty. Quality standards for pasta were invented by the Pope in the 13th century.

Why are we talking about pasta? We're talking about Pope. Hey, here we go. Pope is the English word for Mayan. Someone that has something to say that people will follow, but ultimately it doesn't actually impact their lives. That's true. I don't think that's right at all. That's the conversation in there. I'm going to start up a new blog, and I'm going to call it the Pope blog. I'm totally going to get sucked in. So the argument was, yes, Pope, no Pope? No, it had to do with church discipline, and some guy got shunned or something, because they were trying to bring him up on, and I'm 50-50 on it. I don't know that I give a rip, really. I should, I guess. I just haven't looked into it enough or care, actually, at this point. But a church had instituted a certain form of church discipline when you became a member. It said, if you become in the leadership and you act this way, you have to submit to this authority and blah, blah, blah, prove your repentance before you'll be replaced back into a leadership role. This guy said, no, you're not going to make me jump through all these hoops, whatever. And they said, well, if you're going to act that way, then you're leaving. He said, the guy's like, I'm going to leave the church, you know? And if he says, if you're going to act that way, then you're leaving under bad terms, and we're basically, we're just going to tell people to not talk to you, because you've denied

the faith, and you're going to be treated like a Gentile or tax collector. I'm thumbs up on that one. Here's the difference, though. How do you treat a Gentile or a tax collector? Well, you tell them about Jesus. That was three pages in. The fourth page is in. It came into, it was, whether, how do you judge repentance? Like, if you're going to hold someone to a standard, is repentance between them and God, or you and them, before you put them back in the leadership role under church discipline, blah, blah, blah. So this goes on for, I mean, five, six pages. I'm invested in it. I'm reading it. I'm like, yeah. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, every other comment, and then someone will swear, I'm like, where'd that guy come from? It seems kind of, you know, I mean, we're talking. You should follow the Pope. I mean, I'm talking big boy swear words, you know what I'm saying? I mean, not just the casual, whatever, it might come out of a Christian's mouth every once in a while. This guy was breaking it out. And I'm like, holy cats.

But anyway, I mean, and then, I don't know, I got so frustrated at the end because it's like a super popular church they were talking about and a super popular blog writer's site, and so there are two people who are garnering a decent population, a percentage of the Christian population, and they're just battling, and they're not battling like a family. They're battling like two enemies. And I thought, what a waste. And every once in a while, some blogger would come on and go, you know, this is kind of a waste of time, fellas. We're on the same team. If you don't agree, just don't go there, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then someone would go, thanks a lot for your opinion, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get off this site. I'm like, one reasonable dude shows up, writes two sentences, and he's all of a sudden, he's the Antichrist. Get him out of here, you know? And I'm like, I can't decide whether this is like a sneaky tool of the devil, or people just can't help themselves. Like, I think it's, I was more, I was more reading it for, like, the same reason that I talk about the stuff on the show, right? Like, I just want to know. Like, I wanted good biblical counsel. You can't find it on a Christian blog, I'll tell you that. Stay on the CNN Belief blog. Stay off most writers. The one guy that I do enjoy is John Acuff.

The stuff that comes out of him, I think, is usually pretty solid, and it's usually fairly biblical. But like, as soon as you get into the comment section, you just as well denounce your faith and go to the mine country. Like, it's just about useless to grab on board with anybody. It's terrible. Like, there's no, you cannot find solid biblical counsel with two lines of a guy you don't know. Yeah, I've never, and I read this stuff quite a bit, like, I've never read a Christian blog on something and walked away feeling that I made a good decision to read the comments. Like, if I just read the post, it's probably all right. But like, anytime I read people's commentary on it, like, sometimes I just feel dirty. Sometimes I'm disappointed. There's an overwhelming sense of sadness in my life about, like, these are people following Christ and there's no joy. Like, I can't, I don't feel joy in how they respond to people. I don't feel joy in how they live their life based upon what they've responded. And frankly, it makes me sad. And then, you know, there are other times where it makes me, makes me angry. And so, I don't know, those comment sections are the, are no good. They're just no good. Yeah. You know, it happens in the real life world, too. There are some believers that are just combative and they just want to argue and split hairs. And, you know, I've never, I will, I will, if it's a legitimate debate, I'll go to the wall for it and I'll, and I'll, I'll have a conversation.

But usually against believers, I just don't waste my time. Even like in the live conversation. Oh yeah, but what do you think about whatever? And I'm like, oh, who cares? You know, I have a very specific view of the end times that is different than a lot of people. And a lot of people will try to fight that. I'm like, you know what? We're all going to die one of these days. We'll find out who is right. And I'm pretty sure I am, you know, if I'm wrong, I'll be like, oh, look at that. Everybody, if Dan was wrong and Jesus like, yeah, Dan, down low, too slow. Go on in, buddy. It's all right. But that's it. I'm perfectly okay being wrong because it's not an issue of salvation. You know, it's, it's just a thing that we can like to debate about. And, but I, I've known people that'll just fight about everything. You know, what's what, you know, specific leadership styles that the Bible might give a hint toward, but you know, he didn't. God doesn't care. As long as there are certain standards in place, he doesn't, you know, he's not real detail on some things. And if God wanted to say so, he would have, like, he didn't make a mistake and say, oh, I, I meant to put that other chapter in, but I didn't make it to the publisher on time. Like he, if he wanted more detail, if he wanted more information, he wanted more direction,

want to be more specific. He would have. Exactly. Exactly. And, and he does specifically say, like in Timothy, first Timothy, not to spend all your time sitting there arguing about these endless genealogies and just, you know, unimportant things, you know, don't waste your time, you know? And, and so I don't. It's like the Sabbath. That's right. It's like, like, I provided to help you, uh, don't ruin yourself by spending a lot of time harassed, like doing the Sabbath incorrectly. Exactly. Exactly. All right. So anyway, stay away from the blogs. Can I play them in the blog comments? There's a lot. I tell you what. The blogs are okay. There's a, there's a really good, this is going to sound bad, uh, but there's a really good ladies blog. The Kyria blog is actually very good. Like there's a lot of, there's a ladies on there, uh, and it's, it's for women content. Uh, but I don't know much about women. What's wrong with you, Ben?

So I check it out and I like, I, I, I read it and I feel closer to my wife and I say, I know, I know what you're going through, baby. I read about you on the blog today. You could have a conversation. How are you doing? Um, but, uh, but, so I mean, there's some worthwhile things to read. Uh, but, but if you, if you were, you know, two things, first of all, Jesus didn't write it. Uh, so keep that in mind. And, uh, second of all, I'd stay with the comments. They're just disappointing. Yeah. They're just going to make your life worse. People have tried to get us the blog before, like, Oh, we need a pathway blog, you know? And I think if, if you didn't, you know, I guess you turn the comment section off, but then who cares? Because that's why they read it in the first place. And that's where all the debates happen. And it's like, everyone wants to say their piece. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there's, well, I'd see, I, but there's value in blogs. There's value in the posts themselves. I think there's a value in putting something out there for people to read, to think about, to kind of chew on a little bit.

Uh, I just, I think the comments are a little bit dangerous and you can't control them. And then like the only way to fight with somebody is you got to get, it looks petty. There's no way to do it. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on a thing on Facebook, a group that, uh, every day that this guy suddenly shows up and, uh, I've known the guy for several years, so I don't know who he is, but, uh, and I like the guy, but he'll, he has a blog and really all he's doing is self-promotion. But so he gets on this thing. He says, Hey, what do you think of women in the church? Here's what I think. And, you know, then all of a sudden there's this big debate. I'm like, really? I, I, I mean, today I actually threw something, uh, I can't remember what he was asking. Like, should it, should it, should a sermon be entertaining or engaging or something like that? You know, to be effective. Does it need to be entertained? Does it need to be entertaining to be effective? You know? And it just got, you know, 900 comments of people going back and forth. It needs to be engaging. It needs to be blah, blah, blah. How about just relevant? How about that's it?

That's all it needs to be relevant. How about biblical? How Jesus feels in relevance. How about it matters to somebody? Yeah. You know, a lot of it. I mean, obviously everybody gets on there and clicks the, his link and goes to his blog and he gets, look how many people are reading my blog and, you know, and, and. Ben, sensationalize our show so people will click links to it. Yeah. Do a little blog each week. Okay. I'm going to throw it out there. Here's our summary. Women. Are you for them or against them? This week on Life on the Path. I don't like women. They're evil. All right. Ready? Yep. Dear Life on the Path. For years, I have heard about players winning thousands of dollars on casino slot machines. But every time I try to win one, I run out of cash before I'm hitting it. How can I win a jackpot before I go broke?

Hurry your answer because my money is running out. I have a great idea for that one. Great idea. Don't even go there. No. Just, I'm just saying. You know, I know it's out there. I know it's crazy, but it could be all right. Borrow. Borrow from others. If you're running out of money, your only request is to borrow from others. Terrible advice. You can take advice from a guy who doesn't have a job. Hey, man. I'm smart with my money. I don't go try to win a jackpot. I say every hour at the door place is a new jackpot. I'm hurt. I don't follow. I'm not sure what I'm saying. He was taking a shot at me. Every hour you work. Oh, oh, oh. It's a more jackpot. Oh, hit the jackpot. I get it.

I get it. It's like you're working. It's a chain. Get and go. And then they give you one bill check. I feel like my old man just came in the door, you know? I don't even. Anyone would say it. It's like this. Listen, son. It's better for you to make a 50-hour than to owe me 20 bucks. Vending machines. Yeah. You win every time. That's true. What? No. Not really. Dear life in the past. There's no answer, by the way. That's just funny. That's the first. Somebody wrote in a funny. Ah-ha-ha. Oh, they're sneaky. Here's a funny.

That's a good one. Dear life in the past. I was awakened at 3 a.m. by a barking police dog while someone was being arrested on my front lawn. This morning, I discovered the dog had pooped on my grass. I'm considering complaining to the police about it, but don't want to seem ungrateful for the job they do. What do you think? Pick it up. Pick it up. Pick it up. Or run it over with the mower. You got two options. It'll deteriorate. It'll go away. It'll go away. Actually, if it was my own dog, I think I'd probably, but I can't imagine going out there for any reason. Honestly, shouldn't you be happy that they caught the guy out there and not in your house while he was harming you? Yeah, really. If the guy was coming after you, you'd have pooped in your own lawn. Exactly. Then we'll see what you're going to call. Who's going to clean my pants? Someone help me.

Yeah. This wasn't the police guard donkey. That sounded great. Grateful person. The secular advice was, yeah, you should probably pick it up. I wouldn't complain about it. Dear life in the past, I'm dating a hard-to-find kind of man. He's charming, funny, polite, very sweet. He's my Prince Charming, except for one thing. He's a racist. What is going on today? I have asked him not to say demeaning things about people of other races to me because it upsets me. Most of his friends are like that, too. When he meets someone of a different race, he's polite and friendly. But when he sees someone on TV or walking on the street, he makes a derogatory comment. I'm considering breaking up with him over this. Am I overly sensitive or is this a legitimate concern? Sorry, he's a pansy racist. He's not even, he won't say it to someone's face, but he, but he, he racial epithets at the TV. That hurts. No, he's a sissy. No, get rid of him directly. Gone. He's a punk.

He's an insecure punk. I agree. You're a punk. He's shallow. I've never understood the whole concept of racism. It doesn't make any sense. Nothing about it makes sense. Volunteer job doesn't make any sense. I snuck that one in there. I just like to, you know, if I meet someone with a different race, I try to skip it all together and I just say, hey, you're darker than I am. Let's just acknowledge that now and move on. I don't do that. I just pretend like it doesn't, it doesn't matter. That's a lie. You, you notice the difference. Oh yeah, but it's not like I noticed like, oh man, just like I noticed hair color. I mean, you know, I noticed the difference between your eye color. I don't want to come to you being, Mike, you've got different eye colors. I think you should get this out of the way real quick. I would if it would qualify it. I will qualify you by how whatever means is necessary. Like before we start. Whatever makes you the most describable to someone I'm talking to you, that's how I'll describe you. If you're black, you're black.

If you have funky hair, you have funky hair. If you dress ridiculous, that's what I'll say. Thank you. Whatever, whatever, if I say you wear a fantastically weird looking macaroni shirts, everyone goes, oh yeah, I saw Dan. You know what I'm saying? Like I will use whatever description makes you is describable. And I don't want to see Mike pointing me out in a crowd. Like I really don't. I don't point. I just describe. And the people automatically know that. Oh yeah, I know that guy. Oh, that's Troy. Yeah. You want to hear? You look at, you know, we're eternal souls created by God, made in his image. And that's the part that's eternal. You know, whatever race, ethnic group we happen to be a part of is irrelevant after the minute you make your last breath. I mean, we distinguish each other now because, okay, you're a little different shade of color than I am, blah, blah, blah, more pigmentation, less, whatever. But it doesn't identify. I've never heard anyone go, hey, you have more pigmentation than me. Hey, you have a healthy amount of pigmentation, buddy. Right on.

It makes me think of you as less of a person. I'm a little shy myself. That's for noticing. Racism makes no sense to me. There's nothing about it that even makes sense at all. We're all people. It doesn't matter what color we are. We're all still people. Yeah, yeah. It's not really a humongous deal. And it is sad, though, because obviously it does exist. I mean, people, you know. Which makes no sense. It doesn't exist. It doesn't. You're dark. I'm not. I don't like you. You're not going to get a job. I really would question that, like, she says he's got all these redeeming qualities, but, like, there's got to be something missing about you to make such a juvenile distinction. Yeah. Right? It's weird. I don't like tall people. Yeah, exactly.

Tall people bother me. Mike is afraid of tall women. I am. I'm kind of with you on that one. They creep me out. They kind of scare me, too. If they're taller than me, I'm like, hey, I'm going to go home. I'm going to go home. Welcome to the stage, double check. Whoa. I need you to leave. Whoa. You're not welcome here. We need to go up on top of the catwalk, and he went. Just like. Yeah. Maybe that guy from Newsboys is the same problem. You're tall. I don't like you. Facial hair. Have some pie, demon woman. You want to hear the secular advice? Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Oh, man.

I think I lost it. Yeah. Hang on a second. I had it. Two shakes. How about the mitts? Do. Do. No, I'm gone completely. Forget it. All right. Hey, you've been listening live from the path. We are nearing the last minute and a half of the second anniversary show. Woo! Hey, thanks so much for hanging out with us tonight. We really do appreciate it. We've made it two years, only because we bought our own equipment and for our customer own place. No legitimate place would have us on for that long. But whatever. The clock keeps turning. Next week, Chris Roloff is going to be in studio. He's going to be performing. You saw his behind in the anniversary video. I'll play that again for you on the way out. Anyway, Chris will be in here.

He's a good friend of the show. And so he'll be here performing and having some discussions with us. Also, we're going to talk to the man that runs the Jesus Donkey Ranch. And we're going to see what goes on in his place. I'm pretty interested in what his day looks like. I figure it looks a lot like Double J's day. Pretty much like the same thing. Please explain what that entails. It's productive. Oh, thank you. Out looking for donkeys. What makes you so defensive? What are you, a Mayan? I don't know. The past two hours have been nothing but door jokes and I don't have a job jokes. And it makes me a little sad on the inside. Do you make doors anymore? No, I don't make doors. Do you have a job? No. So they were fast. Yes. Hey, hey. Listen, I'm an entrepreneur. That's a big word. I've got a big project coming.

I've got a big tank and I'm going to think about it. And then when I get done thinking about it, I'm going to call people. His job has the word manure. I'm inventing a fish tank. I've got to get some funds. I'm going to raise funds. Fundraiser. Hey, thanks, man. No problem. I'm in. I'll give you some money. You can buy a t-shirt. No, I'll give you a ride to work, though. Yeah, I was going to give someone a t-shirt, but then it's time to make fun of my not-job-ness. So, you know what? I take it back. Hey, hey. I won't stop making fun of you if I have to get a t-shirt. You're going to blackmail me. Hey, hey. No racism. Just male. No problem. Just male. All right. Hey, you've been listening to Live from the Path.

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