Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, you are Live from the Path. Live from the Path, broadcasting from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, the only place that would give us a license for a low-rent internet radio station. This is Live from the Path. Here's what I'm thinking. I really feel like that song could be done by a group of choral fellas. It would add more majesty. What do you mean, like acapella? Like a military, you know, fellas. Like a big group of band of dudes. Give me an example. Like a boy band? Without the band? You, we are a working man. We get things done. We get the cordsman in here. Kind of astute. This sounds like a bunch of drunk Bavarians. Okay, I didn't ask for your opinion. I'm just saying that's what I think should happen. All right, you're listening to Live from the Path. It should be a great show. If you've chosen to wander or saunter into the program for the very first time, this is the day for you. Ryan Paulbuck is in studio. He's going to be sharing some stories and some tunes. I'm excited. We met him at the Newsboys show. That's right.

Yeah, that's where we – I know you, but I don't know why. He was lurking around at a legitimate radio station, and somehow we've got him to lower the bar and show up here. So he's in here. That's awesome. I'm excited for Ryan. This is the end of your career, by the way. I hope you enjoyed it. McDonald's is hiring. So we're going to talk to Ryan and see what's going on in his world. Also, we're going to do some Secular vs. Solomon. It's been a while, so I hope you've been touching up on your worldly proverbs to see whether you know biblical wisdom or whether those drunk Bavarians who do that opening theme song are giving you proverbial wisdom to your detriment. So we're going to talk about that. Also, we're going to hit your advice. People are writing in. They say, Dear Life from the Path, I need help, and we're here to help you with that. There's some people that need Jesus today. Holy cats. Okay. All right. So we're going to – I just saw some stuff that just broke my heart. They've come to the right place. We're going to have to read these. All right. All right. Pants, are you straightened out there? Refresh your browser if you're having trouble.

I think things are going to be just fine for you. Thought it was a rerun of last week? It was so good. Maybe. What does that say, fellas? Maybe he can't tell the difference. What did we do last week? I don't remember. Actually, we do comment on the opening theme song every time. I make it sound like there's some kind of atmosphere in here. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We trumped up the guests for even deciding to come in the building. Yeah, this is dead on. This is pretty much our routine. Oh, there we are right there. It's par for the course. All right. Well, I tell you what. Let's get to know Ryan just a little bit. Then we're going to dig right into the tunes. Ryan Paul Buck, thanks for joining us on Live from the Path. Yeah, definitely. Glad to be here, guys. Glad to meet you. So, I tell you what.

Let's do this. Let's introduce you by way of some of your music, and then we'll get to know you just a little bit more. Cool. Sounds good. Tell me a little bit about the first song, You Are the Lord. Yeah, You Are the Lord. It's a song that I basically wrote about a couple of years ago, and it was inspired from a trip to Alaska that my grandmother took me, a couple of my family members on. Now, hold on. Was it because you were being unruly? No. No. It was just a planned trip. Yeah, planned trip. Okay. I'm sorry. Continue. Check it out for a minute. I just wanted to know your state of mind, you know? Yeah. So, yeah. You're the Lord. So, I'll go ahead and play for you guys. Okay. Awesome. This is Ryan Paul Buck, and you're listening to Live from the Path. All over the globe, your children sing of your love, sing of your love, alone.

Every nation and tongue will confess you, Lord, all over the globe. Oh, God of creation, we call on your name. We are in need of your spirit. Breathe life in this place. Oh, God of this city, we call on your name. We are in need of your spirit. Breathe life to this. We bow to it. Breathe place. Oh, God of this city. We are in need of your spirit. We worship you alone. We worship you alone. We love you alone. Beloved Jesus, we give you our love. Jesus, we worship you. Jesus, the Lord worship you. This part was cool. That was kind of fun. I didn't see it coming. I thought he had something that happened to him. But then it was on purpose, and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's way cooler. Yeah, that was very cool. Very cool. So, have you had that song for a while? Yeah, I started it like, yeah, like I said, I got inspired after that trip, and I had like another chorus to it, the God of Mercy song, actually. Like, I was trying to find another song to write with that chorus, because I really like

that chorus. It's the first track off the record, and the two pieces just didn't fit together. They're completely different tempos. And then, so yeah, I changed that beginning part. The beginning part used to be a lot simpler. Like, it was like the whole, like, you know, that rhythm thing is really interesting. And it's like, yeah, it's a really interesting time signature that it's in. But at first, it used to be a lot simpler and a lot more boring when I was trying to write the other chorus, and I just dropped the chorus, came up with this new chorus, and yeah, it just worked a lot. You know, I feel like not enough songwriters embrace using the same chorus in two places. You know, like, they feel like they really got to distinct each song, and really, I mean, if it's a good chorus, you might as well copy it and just pass it out. Yeah, use it a couple times, you know. I mean, what if Journey didn't stop believing? Yeah, a couple, three times, you know. They could have had two or three hits on their hands. That's the deal. Well, that was You Are the Lord. That was by Ryan Paul Buck. You can find more information about Ryan if you go to ryanpaulbuck.com. His album, The Foundation, is out now. You can listen to it a little bit online. You can also pick it up on iTunes and Amazon. I prefer the Amazon. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm just saying.

No, you're not. The B3s over AAC? Yeah, yeah. He's upset over the protected music code, or you've got to, he don't like it. They dropped it recently. Did they really? Yeah. It's not as protected anymore. All right. For real. Yeah. I don't like to be constrained. I'm a music libertarian. Yeah. You're a music thief. No, no, I'm talking about purchasing it on the Amazon. No, but you're the kind of guy that's like, yeah, they put in laws to protect people, and you're like, I think these laws are stupid. I should be able to just do whatever I want. All right, man. All right. That's right. So you can go to his, if you go to his website, RyanPaulBuck.com, there's a link there to check out the music and to pick up the CD on iTunes or Amazon. There's also a lot of cool information. His blog is out there. Now, do you blog very often? No, I'm not.

You're a lazy blogger. I am a lazy blogger. I find that 95% of bloggers are lazy. Oh, I'm terrible. I notice that too. Everybody, like, you go look at their blog, and it's like 2009. You're like, oh. You know, and frankly, there's nothing that irritates me more than – Is that you guys – I think it was – Is that bad? Is that bad? I keep paying for it. I'm like, I haven't done anything in it for like four years at least. Here's the thing. Like, people are legitimately interested in you, so they go check out your blog, and you don't care enough to even write in it. Like, I look at it, and I'm like, oh, 2010, did they die? You know, like, are they even around anymore, or they don't think anything? Oh, sorry. Anyway, Ryan's only entry is, hello, world. Welcome to WordPress. Nice. It's the test post that WordPress puts out there. I like that. I'm just – I really think that – I think people should just abandon blogs. Like, is there any – I read – there's one blog that I read. Like, other than that – Is it mine?

No, it's not. I went to check on you, and I couldn't decide what happened to you, so I gave up. It takes discipline, though. It does. Being a blogger takes discipline. And you have to be worth listening to. That's true. I'm not worth listening to every day. No. Absolutely not. Well, I think your typical blogger, if – like, I know, I haven't studied this, but, you know, they're just writing random things that nobody cares about. The ones that are successful tend to be ones that kind of focus and are writing about things that people want to hear about. It's like, well, who really cares what I have to say, really? I mean – But that didn't stop the – I saw a cat today. That didn't stop the bravado of you coming up with, I'm going to be a blog writer. I'm open to post. Actually, the whole concept of Twitter is based upon a certain form of narcissism, is it not? That's true. Like, whatever medial thing I'm doing at the time is worth sharing with everybody. Exactly. I believe I just got a post from you on the Facebook that says, I'm going to get some pizza. With a picture of you and other people eating pizza.

Nice. It was just time for a pizza break. I tell you what, there's some narcissistic people out there. The picture was not of me. Hold on. Hold on. Dan Hudson's going out. Everybody should know, I'm having a little Felix Nostris. This has to be the most embarrassing move right here. Like, they've had to put a camera that flips around so you can look at it and go, there's me. Here's me standing by my car. You know what I'm saying? I mean, seriously, what have happened to us? Who's on the Lord's side? So, Ryan, maybe share with us just a little bit about how you got into music to begin with. Sure, definitely. Hold on. Was it because of unruly behavior? No, not that I know. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead to you. Yeah, but basically I got started doing music back in, it had been like 2001, and my older brother and I were kind of getting interested in hip-hop and stuff at the time, and he was writing raps over top of industry instrumentals and things like that, and we went to Minnesota to visit my uncle, and one day went to the Guitar Center and picked up a drum machine, and he couldn't figure out how to use it, so he passed it to me, and I'm kind of a technology whiz.

So, I started programming drum beats and things like that, and then he started writing to them, and before he knew it, we had like 20 tracks, and we were ready to record, and album, and so yeah, my brother and I were kind of at this point where we were looking at studio fees and things like that, and the cost of recording had come down, as you guys know, with your broadcast over computer-based and stuff, you know, computer-based recording really took off around that time in the 2000s. So, my brother and I decided to invest in, you know, studio equipment, and that's when I started learning how to be a recording engineer. So, we basically cut our first record, our first disc, True to Life is the name, if you can find it, or I don't know on the internet. I'm going to find it. You know, Ryan has an uncanny ability to say that you're low rent without saying you're low rent. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, you guys just scratched up 300 bucks worth of material and put yourself on the internet. But he said it so smoothly and kindly that it just completely passed by, which is very cool. As you can see with your entry-level radio program. Most people say, oh, you have headphones. You guys are the real deal. I see you have the Logitech 110 webcam. That's a choice. That's certainly something you could do. I like you. Yeah, I'm telling you. He's a slick one. A communication expert. But, yeah, so basically, yeah, hip-hop was my first start, and so I got started doing

that, and eventually I kind of wanted to start learning more about chord structure and music behind it, because with hip-hop, it's a great way to start. If you're looking to get started with music, hip-hop's the way to go, because it's rhythmic based. Yep. So if you've got rhythm, you can do it. But eventually, I started learning how to play chords and stuff on a piano, and then my brother got a guitar, so I started learning that when, you know, just messing around with his. And kind of the crazy story about me is, like, pretty much six months, like, after I really started intentionally learning to play guitar, I was actually on stage leading worship at my church. Oh, no kidding. Which is a pretty wild story, yeah. So they didn't have anybody, or you just got to be that good? I think a little bit of both, but they were just kind of short of people, and, like, I started playing bass, like, the first day I got my bass in the mail, it was actually on stage on a Wednesday night. I got a used one on the mail, and, yeah, I was playing it, my fingers, I tore up my fingers so bad. I mean, they felt like skeleton bones, you know? So don't play a bass or a gig the first night you ever get one. Not a good idea. Hey, Ryan and Steve, you got that bass in? Oh, yeah. Okay, I need you to come here. Really? Yeah.

So, yeah, it worked out great. So I was playing bass, and, yeah, I mean, the people around my church, I think, were just really enthused by my skills and abilities. I picked up really fast. And I remember the guy who actually asked me to be a worship leader, I remember playing on stage with him at our young adult service, and he was like, you know, Ryan's been playing for, like, four months, and he's one of our best bass players, you know? I'm telling you, Jesus does stuff like that, you know? Yeah, he does. If Jesus wants you to know the bass, you learn the bass. Yeah. I mean, for real, on guitar, I mean, I remember one of my pastors talking about that, like, you know, we were some military research project, you know, both me and my brother, because we just learned so fast, and it was just our passion, and I think, too, just being a collaborative team, you know, between my brothers, the one who plays the lead licks on this record, so you can check it out. So, but we, yeah, led worship together for a good five years, you know, around my church and stuff. So, yeah, that's kind of my journey from hip-hop to worship to now kind of, yeah, this song writing and recording. You know, you very rarely see it go the other way, you know? Like, I used to be a country artist, and I've now become a hip-hop man. You know, like, you just don't see the progression go towards hip-hop, you know, instead of away. And I just, I don't know, if Willie Nelson picked it up, I'd buy the CD just to check it out. Didn't Garth Brooks do hip-hop under a different name? No, he did bad music under a different name. What was his name?

Chris Gaines. Okay, that's right. Okay, yeah. All right. Dan, you don't know pop-hop? He had a goatee and everything. Really? It was fairly terrible. Yeah. It was fairly terrible. Maybe that's the problem. I don't know bad music. Solid. So, Mike, tell me a little bit about, so that's kind of a wide swath of things that you've got yourself involved in. So, calling, referring to you as a singer-songwriter doesn't seem to encapsulate it correctly. Right. So, as a, like a digital media guy. Exactly. Because you're involved in, you know, recording engineering, you're doing music, you've got video content and stuff. Tell me a little bit about, like, how that all comes together about, you know, basically, what's it for? What's it all about? What are you getting at with all that stuff? Sure, yeah. I mean, a person of a variety of skills and stuff, and I recorded this record myself just as a personal project, wanting to learn and improve my skills, and, yeah, video content.

Like, I've wrestled with that a lot over the years, just like, okay, I'm doing this recording thing. I love writing songs. I just have this passion. I want to write songs, but yet I love cameras, and I love shooting videos, and I've, you know, wrestled back and forth between the two. Like, I just want clarity. I want to do one thing. And the one word that has really stuck out for me in my mind is storyteller, and I kind of started putting that, you know, on my Twitter, you know, bio, and then on the bottom of my email, you know, storyteller. Like, I love telling stories. So that's the thing for me is I love telling stories, and the best story I ever told is the gospel of Jesus Christ. And, you know, so through this record, that's what I really wanted to tell was help people tell the stories. And one of the songs I'm going to sing tonight is a narrative-based song. It's called The Life You Gave. And it really is, it's a narrative-styled song about the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So, yeah, just storytelling. I'm really intrigued by stories. And, you know, the gospel is a story, you know, in itself to be told and to be communicated through people. I think that's my passion through everything I do from, you know, recording, whether I'm just a recording engineer, a singer-songwriter, all the way to video production. It's about communicating the story of God and who He is and, you know, His desires for us and His heart and compassion and love for us.

Very cool. That's the best explanation of anything I've ever heard in my whole life. Nice. I'm going to leave now. Dang it. The Lord does not need me anymore. You know what? I'm done with Mike Foose. You know, that was the age of ride, Paul Buckley. Now that RPB's here, old Mike can get out of here. Good thing we have a dumpster. What kind of initials are math, anyway? All right, well, cool. We've been talking with Ryan Paul Buck. You can find more information about him by going to ryanpaulbuck.com. I tell you what, I want to hear some more about some of the current stories that you're working on in that vibe. I tell you what, let's hear that song. Let's hear the life you gave that you were just talking about. Cool. Yeah, I'll set it up real quick. Like, when I wrote this song, I was leading worship. We were in the bridge of our church, just kind of in this transitional space between locations. Church is growing, building new places. And I remember leading worship, or not leading worship, but playing electric guitar that night. You know, we were playing for, I think, like, at least 45, 50 minutes. And I remember just after that, like, not being done yet.

Like, I still had just this heart and this desire to worship more. And so, yeah, I just started kind of strumming around with some chords, and I ended up going to our chapel, which is kind of a smaller space. And the first couple lines out of this song, you know, what words could I ever bring that could even compare to the life you gave, you know, the price you paid, the life you gave, you know, for me and the world. Those first lyrics came out and just stuck with me. And then I spent time with my older brother, who, you know, I did hip-hop with, just kind of writing and fleshing out that story. So, yeah, this is the life you gave. Very cool. You're listening to Ryan Paul Buck on Live from the Path. What words could I ever bring that could eat the price you paid and the life you gave? Broken lives staring up with helpless eyes to you. Redemption is near because all in you and the life you, yes, all is found in you and the life you gave. You're sisters and brothers, lying at your feet. They can't help but weep from losing you. As the sky rained down on that day, you held the world in all its pain, till you slipped past past the point of heavy breathing. The earth didn't shake as everything began to break. And all who was forgotten, still on that day, you slowly slipped up the arms of your father. And all your fate, the pain will never share. Your fate of our Savior won't die because of his sacrifice. He will rise because of our Savior won't die because all in you and the life you gave. Yes, all is found in you and the life. That was Ryan Paul Buck with The Life You Gave. You are listening to Live From The Path.

We've been talking to Ryan. To learn more about him, go to ryanpaulbuck.com. You can check out his new CD. You can pick it up on Amazon. You can pick it up on iTunes. Hey, big Brian. Nathaniel's joining us. Yep. Very cool. I like that. I mean, the background is helpful with that song too because, I mean, I think you can see it. I think you can see the moment of kind of hanging out in that more intimate space like that chapel area and just kind of letting the thing ride out to God, talking about that story. Right. So, I don't know. I dig on it. I like that tune. Thanks, man. So, before we hit that song, we were talking a little bit about storytelling. Yeah. I mean, you got anything that's in the works right now that you're really excited about, like on any of those fronts, those media fronts? Sure, yeah. Storytelling and stuff like that. I hope a lot of other people tell their stories through video. Kind of like people's personal testimonies and things like that. That's something I do for my job at Lutheran Church of Hope. So, yeah, I mean, basically helping tell people's stories.

And then also, yeah, I mean, anytime you pretty much pull a video together, you're working on telling a story and it's just a matter of what. So, right now I'm working on a video too for the ELCA National Conference in New Orleans coming up here in July. So, just kind of working on refining, like, okay, what's the story I'm telling? And, you know, I'm right now working on the script. And I've shot a few things, but I'm really, you know, refining it down to what is the story, what's the content that's going in there. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I actually had a really good – it's not a good experience, right? It's a weird – it's not a great experience. But, like, my dog died this week. And it was really weird because I, like, I watched them. I watched her. And she was an older dog. She's about 10. And she started having a stroke. And, like, she started – like, if you sit there – and I didn't know what was happening. My wife used to work for a vet. And so she knows these kind of things, you know. So she's looking at it. She's like, the dog's having a stroke. I'm like, what? You know, what do I do? She said, nothing. You just kind of sit there and watch it.

It's just nothing to do, you know. You know, and so, like – and she's seen this a million times in her job. You know, she just sees this. And so she just kind of gets – she's not, like, dead to it. But, like, you know, she goes into this is my job mode. Here's what we do, you know. And so, like, I'm sitting there watching this happen. And she's got her – the dog's just, you know, convulsing and leaning up against the wall. And her eyes are going back and forth and stuff like this. And, like, I'm just sitting there watching. I'm like, I don't know what else to do. Like, I just don't know what to do. And she goes, well, go, you know, just go sit with her and pet her. I'm like, she's probably freaked out. Like, I don't know. I don't know what to do, you know. And, like, I just felt helpless. Like, you know, I'm just sitting there, you know. And eventually it turned out that we got her to the vet. And they said, well, we'll put her on some fluids. And, you know, we'll see. We'll check on her in the morning. And she didn't make it. You know, she died in the nighttime, you know. But, like, for some reason the next morning I was thinking about it. I was a little bummed, you know. But I was thinking about it. And I'm like, this is exactly how God feels when he looks at me.

This is exactly how Christ feels when he looks at me. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's sitting up there. And he's just watching me convulse and hit my head against the wall and act like a doofus, you know. And he wants to sit next to me and hold me. And I just – but there's nothing he can do, right? He's offered me salvation. He's offered me the gift that he's given. He's done everything he could to set me up. And I just – I'm just sitting – you know, I don't know. Like, I just – for some reason I just saw it through his eyes like how helpless he – you know, he is. Like, he's not – he's an awesome and amazing God. And he's done everything he could for me. But, like, his heart just – I just can't imagine his heart is just not grieving watching his kids bang their heads against the wall and convulse and just be sick and not well, you know. And, like, it was just so weird to see that every once in a while because I generally have a – you know, my stance on God is authoritative, you know. I am God. I create. I love you with still authoritative, you know, power, love, you know. And I have a view of God like that most of the time, you know. But every once in a while, like, we had a guy – we talked about it on the show three or four months ago that a kid had committed suicide, you know. And, like, everyone was talking about how sad they were, you know, how about the families and all this stuff. And, like, the saddest part to me was that God was there, you know, and he had to watch one of his kids give up, you know, and call it a day, you know. And, like, I just can't – I don't even know the kid. And God knew everything about him, loved him, died for him. Like, just how much that grieves God's heart when stuff like that happens. And I just felt like it was so simple. Like, it's just a metaphor of my dog dying. You know, it was just a dog.

But, like, I don't know. Like, I felt just an inkling of what God feels like when he's like, you know, I can't betray my love anymore. I can't betray my love anymore to you to let you know that it's here and I want it and I want this for you. And he's just holding your head, wondering why you're still banging your head against the wall, you know. Like, it was just a really weird moment. I agree. That was kind of a downer story. I didn't mean to, like, bust it out. Thanks, Mike. That's awesome. You know, I don't have to impress everybody. I was teaching the Father Heart of God, which is a theme that's huge for me, especially in a lot of my writing. If you guys get a chance to check out my full album, I've got a song, Sons and Daughters, that's on there that kind of talks about that Father Heart perspective of God. But, so just, you know, from the beginning of creation all the way to the end, you know, the way the Father always wants to be with us and looking out for us. Dan, we're trying to talk about Jesus here. Are you opening your tea? Actually, Dan's going to open a can of something. You open a can of something. Even Jesus drink. I don't know if you drink this. What is this? Yeah, so Nathaniel's brought in some sweet tea action. I got a Jack Nicklaus Golden Bear Lemonade with Honey and Ginseng. Ginseng, ginseng. What makes me say? I sound like Pan-European when I say ginseng. It's got to be ginseng. Yeah, it's ginseng.

Okay, all right. Doesn't that make you sleep? You want a tea? Or that's the brain stuff? I don't know. There's a Honey and there's a Half Lemonade. Is it? I got a cup in my water. Thank you, Dan. That sounds like a no. Like a, I don't want your tea. That's a nice colorful can there, but it'll go with my water. I mean, crazy story about me. Like, I have to be careful with what I eat. I'm allergic to corn, dairy, and wheat. Oh, man. There's a lot of stuff. So, I mean, I usually don't check handouts. You know, there's things like that. I don't say yes to that. You're the most unfortunate trick-or-treater ever. Exactly. I didn't find out until I was like 19. So, kind of a crazy story. I mean, around the same time I got into music. So, I don't know if there's a correlation to that, you know. You know, all the stuff that was keeping me tired, you know. That's the thorn.

The thorn. That's Paul's thorn. Yeah, my other cheese. Wheat. Can't do dairy. It turned out Paul had a blatant reaction. He just didn't want to mention it in the Bible. All right. Well, you're listening live from the path. We were talking with Ryan Paul Buck. And I know what's happened to you. You've come in and you said, I want to hear some sweet tunes. And you've got that. And I feel like we've delivered so far. Ryan's came in and he's held up his end of the bargain. And so that we hold up on ours, I'm afraid we're going to have to play America's fastest-growing internet game show, Secular vs. Solomon. Yes, sir. And now, for America's fastest-growing game show, Secular vs. Solomon. I hope you enjoyed that. That took me like 45 minutes. You better like it. Video takes time to make. Okay. So if this is your first time playing Secular vs. Solomon, let me tell you how it's going to go down. I will give you a proverb, okay? And then your job on the chat and here in studio is to identify whether that proverb is

secular, it is a worldly bit of wisdom, or whether it is from Solomon, it is a biblical bit of wisdom, all right? If it is a secular bit of wisdom or a worldly bit of wisdom, you're also to tell me the country of origin, okay? Most points gets to clean out my vehicle. Are we ready? I'm ready. Let's do it. I'm in. All right, here we go. Nathaniel, you can't play. Okay. Because you can see my stuff. Oh! There we go. All right, here we go. Ready. Secular vs. Solomon, number one. Oh, by the way, chat, so you can go ahead and throw your answers out on the chat so that I can tell whether you're playing. Here we go. God gives every bird its food, but does not always drop it into the nest. God gives every bird its food, but does not always drop it into the nest. Secular or Solomon? Guest goes first. Ryan, Paul Buck. Okay, Ryan, you're up. That's a tough one.

I'm going to go with secular. Secular? Country of origin for the guests? We'll go with America. It's an American bit of wisdom. I've never even heard of American proverb. You don't have any wisdom. I'm going to go with secular as well. Probably Botswana. A Botswanian bit of wisdom. Damn. They do a lot in birds down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been thinking it's obviously a Swedish proverb, secular. Secular, Swedish? You said Nathaniel couldn't play. Oh, that's right. You're out. Okay, here we go. God gives every bird its food, but does not always drop it into the nest. Secular Danish. I'm going to give Dan half a point on that Swede guess. It was a Swede guess. Hey-oh. Hey-oh. Hold on. Is Swede next to Dane? That's in the general vicinity.

Okay. Okay. I don't know geography. Here we go. Death and life are in the powers of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. Secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. That's pretty close, but I'm going to say secular from India. Indian, dots, not feathers. Mike. I'm going Solomon. Solomon. I'm going Solomon. Solomon. Nathaniel, you're out. Chat's got Solomon, Solomon. Solomon. Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. Solomon, Proverbs 1821. Pastor Dan. Secular Indian. I knew it was awfully close to some scripture. I feel like our seminary has gotten loose. Proverbs is a big book. My recent change to the ESV has really clogged my mind on some tricky wording. Okay, Dan, you've been saying that for a year. Well, I know.

It's still clogging. It's all new to me. Sorry. Bible of reference, ESV. See, if it was the NIV, I would have said it. Oh, definitely. I definitely have this. Okay, here we go. So, it is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud. It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud. Secular or Solomon. Mike. Solomon says things like spoil. So, I'm going with King Solomon. He's using a trickery. A trickery of the wording. Ryan Paul Buck. I'll go Solomon. It sounds close, but yeah. Shifty Solomon. Dan Hudson. I'm as well going Solomon as well because it sounds awfully close to how I have it in my head. In my NIV. In my NIV. In my NIV head. That has been translated to ESV. Okay, here's what I'm interested in is what you think the verse is. Well, I don't necessarily think, no, it should have the word doorknob or something.

I just think, boy, that's awfully close, but it doesn't quite, you know, the dendrites aren't quite firing in the same place or something. I floss before I come in. I don't have those dendrites. That's my problem. I don't know what to do with my mental flossing. That's yeah. That's thrown out secular because it's close to a Canadian redistribution propaganda. Nice. Well played. Okay, here we go. It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud. Solomon, a strong Canadian. Proverbs 16, 19. I totally called it. Nathaniel didn't know. I knew that of him. Way to go, Nathaniel. Here we go. In case you just joined us, you're playing Secular vs. Solomon, the unproven America's fastest growing internet game show. So, simply because I've not exposed myself to any other internet game shows. Yes, what's up? Dan's cheating. Dan's cheating. Dan's cheating. Dan's cheating. Dan's cheating. Dan's cheating. Dan Hudson.

I want to see. I want to compare it. No, I want to compare it to the NIV and, you know. All right. Keep an eye on him. Okay. I will allow it. All right. Here we go. Go often to the house of a friend for weeds soon choke up the unused path. Secular or Solomon. Ryan Paul Buck. Secular. He's saying secular from? Hungarian. It's a Hungarian bit of wisdom. Mike? That sounds like the opposite of a Solomon. I'm going to throw Solomon out there. I think it's close. Okay. Solomon. Dan Hudson. Dan, you knew you were coming up. Okay. Hold on. Dan typed in path unused. I did not.

I lied. That's not Solomon. I'm going with a Russian proverb, not from Solomon. Okay. All right. I give proverb for my family. There we go. Stuff on the chat. We got a secular China. And that is the only guess. Secular hungry. People are. Who said hungry? That's double. They're on the bandwagon. They're loving up on Buck's answer. All right. Here we go. Jamaica for the weed reference. Here we go. Go often. Daniel Brown's only listening to half of the show. Go often to the house of a friend for weed. Weeds soon choke up the unused path. Secular. Swedish. Dan. The Swedes have come back to love on Dan, and he's denied them.

It's the peace lovers. You should have seen it. Weeds have choked up the path between Dan and the Swedes. Here we go. Better a dove on the plate than a wood grouse in the mating place. Oh, boy. Either way, I agree. Excuse me. Better a dove on the plate than a wood grouse in the mating place. Secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. I'm going to go secular, and that sounds Egyptian or something. Egypts. They have problems with wood grouses in the Coptic lands. Mike. Actually, I'm going to stick in the Sweden part of the world and say Swedish. Swedes. The Swedes switched to plastic 20 years ago, but wood grouses are given the problem. Ryan Paul Buck. Let's go secular and German. German. German? Yeah. All right. Have you heard of a German one? And on the chat, we got, I think it was a fake Proverbs guess. Secular Avan, Iowa. And secular Danish.

Here we go. Better a dove on the plate than a wood grouse in the mating place. Secular Russia. Russia. That was, that was, it's right next to the screen. Brother Hudson always one step behind in the country. That is not ESV. Yes, I know. I drank my way through the NIV. Jeremiah, very depressing. I tattooed full book lamentations on my back. Here we go. Please shave first. Why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he has no sense? Why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he does not have a lick of sense? That's a play on words. That's not Solomon. I threw in the phrase lick. It just says when he has no sense. Secular or Solomon. Ryan Paul Buck. Let's go secular and back to Sweden. Secular. Going back to the Swedes. Mike Foust. Secular and Finland. The Finns. Dance with it.

Everyone loves the outskirts of Northern Europe. Dan Hudson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go with Greece. And it's secular, obviously. All right. A money dig at the Greeks. Who are having trouble. They're having issues. Pretty low rent, Dan. I figured, Dan. I've got it figured out. Here we go. Chad has secular Swaziland. Switzerland. Very good. Pants on the path says secular United Kingdom. People are unappreciated of Dan's harshness towards the Greece government. And they're down, you kick them. Austerity measures can't be won. That's true. That is the worldly wisdom. When they're down, give them the move. Now, hold on a minute. Can you explain austerity? What does that mean? When they say austerity measures are being taken. Government intervention, basically, to try to restart the economy in Greece.

Oh, kind of like we've done. Similar. Okay, I'm with you. Third way we're shaped. For now. They say it a lot on the radio. They're like, austerity measures have failed. I'm like, oh, no. Who's in charge of that? Get rid of this austerity guy. Secular Chinese. Here we go. So, why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he has not a lick of sense? And that's Proverbs 17, 16. Proverbs 17, 16. Solomon wiped the table with everybody on that one. You're listening to Life in the Path. So far, we have one more question. And Mike. I got trouble. How's that go? Read that again on ESPN. Okay. Proverbs 17, 16. Why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he has no sense? See, this is what confused me because I would recognize it as, of what use is money in the hand of a fool since he has no desire to get wisdom? That's the NIV.

I'd say the same thing. It's saying the same thing, but it's like worded slightly different. And I'm like, oh. Pants, that does not count. Pants is contending that that was written by Solomon while he was in the UK. On vacation. On holidays. I feel like that's not right. All right, here we go. I hope you're doing well on Secular vs. Solomon. Here was the last one for the night, everybody. You're going to have to let Nathaniel take over. Okay. Nathaniel, you got guesses. Here we go. A friend to all and a friend to none is one and the same. A friend to all and a friend to none is one and the same. Secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. I was attacking an insect when you said that. I understand. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go, say that again. A friend to all and a friend to none is one and the same. Secular or Solomon. I'm going with Secular. I can't even twist that around differently in words to make it. Okay. I'm going with Secular and I'm going to go with the Aztecs.

They have a lot of wisdom. A new country. Aztecia. The Aztecs. A nation of peoples. Go ahead. Ryan Paul Buck. Let's go Secular on this one and let's put it in Russia again. We are hanging out on the European continent. No wisdom comes from Africa. Nathaniel Carson. A friend to all and a friend to none is one and the same. Secular China. Secular China. We're starting to broach the world. We got Secular probably Jamaica again. Secular German. And okay. Chat, that was your option. Here we go. A friend to all. Secular Brazil. That's the way to spread it out, Pants. Wait, Pants, did you do two guesses? You can't guess twice. From the Aztecs down in Brazil? You already said German. I'm going with first answer.

German. All right. A friend to all and a friend to none is one and the same. They heard it from the Aztecs. Secular Italian. It is an Italian bit of wisdom. Oh. Okay. Okay. Okay. You know what? That sounds right. That sounds Italian. Definitely. All right. I saw that on a pizza. Chat, go ahead and tally him up. See where you came out. And you've just been a part of America's fastest growing internet game show, Secular or Solomon. You've just finished. There you go. Secular or Solomon. All right. How'd you do, chat? Hold on. I can't look at you until this video's over. I can only do so much. I'm only a man.

Nobody's posting their scores. Did you guys get whooped on? Here's what you do. Here's what you do. Hit the Proverbs. It's a good thing. Now, here's the deal. I'm going to submit to you that the Proverbs, when you're in your Bible reading, you don't know where else to go. I suggest hitting the Proverbs. They're easy to digest. They're short and sweet. You generally can find something applicable for you that day hanging out in the Proverbs. Yeah. Grab it. Grab it when you're on the list. It's always got good stuff in there. Pretty practical stuff. Yeah, yeah. Proverbs today. Yeah, exactly. And overall, the point of the game show, besides showing that we don't know geography well, is to make sure that we're not mistaking worldly wisdom for biblical wisdom. Because we do that a lot. Things that sound, they've got the right type of language. They come from something that sounds like the King James. And we think, oh, that must have come from Jesus. You know, God helps those who help themselves.

That's in the Bible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. That's the deal. So, it's just a fun way for us to make a distinction about what the world's wisdom looks like compared to what God's wisdom looks like. And also, be careful when going to Brazil. Because, I mean, there's wood grouses in, where did I say the wood grouse is from? Oh, I forget. I don't remember. I don't want any trouble. I better check it out. Wood grouse. Russia. Stay away from the wood grouse. I don't even know what that is, to be honest with you. I don't either. Is it some kind of like squirrel type creature? I don't know. What are your thoughts, Ryan Paul Buck? You're a man of the world. That's got to be a bird. You think? Yeah, that makes sense. Wood grouse. Like a portrait? I'm going to check it out. I'm going to see what I can find out.

All right. Yeah, Mike, you're in. Okay, finally. We're back up and running. All right. You were listening to Live from the Path. Secular. By the way, you can catch us during the week at livefromthepath.org. There's links on that main page, of which you are probably watching. On the left-hand side, you can get to our podcast. That's the audio cast. Also, if you go to youtube.com backslash livefromthepath, there are clips from previous shows, including artists that have been here. Ryan Sheeler has been here. Jeff Arundel has been in. Jesse Anderson, Syndrome of Fire. Lots of folks. The guys from Saved on Sunday. And just tons of folks have been on. So make sure you go out and check out the clips. Wayne Stewart. I saw some stuff from Wayne this week. Chris Day. Just got tons of folks out there. Oh, there's a million. Check out the music. Those guys put a lot of work. They come in.

They come in late at night, and they share their Jesus stuff for you. It's cool. So go out and enjoy it. Did I already tell my dog a stroke story? Yes, you did. That was a real winner. It was a downer. I love that story. Really sealed the night. We are in studio with the, I would call, marginally successful at Secular vs. Solomon, Ryan Paul Buck. Yeah. Ryan. So, you know, we'll have you back in, and we'll give you another crack at it. That was my first time. I thought you did pretty good. Thanks, man. It was impressive. Yeah, yeah. He says that to everybody. Does he? No, no. That's not true. We've had some real losers in here. I mean, they could love Jesus and still stink at the Secular vs. Solomon. They don't read their Proverbs. All right. All right.

So, I'll tell you what. Let's catch back up with Ryan. By the way, you can find more information about Ryan going to ryanpaulbuck.com. You can check out his album. You can order it from there on. Wait, can they get a physical copy? I didn't even check. You do physical copies? Yeah, we have them at the Hope Bookstore, Lutheran Church of Hope, if you go in there. Cafe Hope, we got them there. If you see me around town. You've got them in your coat pocket. Trunk tapes, yeah. When I buy a CD. Or a watch. Creepy. Hey, I want you to keep an eye on Ryan Paulbuck this week. I'll give it a try. Check his behavior. Nice. So, yeah, you can go to his website. You can find more information about his album, The Foundation. I like it. I've listened to it, and it's very good. It's very – you can cruise down the road with it. You can connect with it, and you can dig on it as you go about your day-to-day business. You know what we need to do? It just occurred to me, as you were talking about the Hope, Hope.

We need to have a Live on the Path book, a music store. That would be awesome. Why couldn't we have – why couldn't we stock stuff in here and sell stuff for people? That's a great idea. Why don't we – what's wrong with us? I don't know. We're not very entrepreneurial-minded. That's what we're not going to make any money on. We can pass it on to the people. I mean, you know, it's a place. Yeah. It's just a place to put music. It's a place to come for music. You know, we can all kinds of space on the walls. We could also be a Little Debbie distributor. I feel like people like good Jesus music and Little Debbies. Am I right or am I right? I think you're right. I think that would go over well. All right. Have a little snack. Listen to some good music. We have the little cafe tables in there. They could sit in there and just kind of – Make it work. I like it. Oh, man. So get us some CDs.

You can be the first. I've got some in my bag. There you go. So you've got to carry your CDs around. You never know. I think that's a good idea. I mean, honestly, we've got to put a place that we have to keep the door locked so no one comes in and steals them. Yeah. Not that anyone would come in here and steal them. People would rifle out, although, except for XL. XL was in here, and he said he'd just give them away. He don't care. Nice. We'll charge $30. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can't steal your stuff. I don't understand why. All right. So you're listening to Live from the Path. We're in studio with Ryan Paul Buck. Again, you can find more information about him at RyanPaulBuck.com. And within the next two or three days, if you go to YouTube.com backslash live from the path, we'll have the clips that he's performed early in the day. We heard that you are the Lord and the life you gave. Let's talk a little bit about the song Father.

What was, where did that one come from? Sure. Yeah, that tune, that one's got a cool story behind it. I was going on stage leading worship at one of our young adult services, and I had on the schedule to do a John Foreman song, like Your Love is Strong. And I just went up, and I just really felt like the spirit was leading me somewhere else. And so I just kind of went up there and started strumming a new pattern. And yeah, the pattern, the rhythm pattern of Father just started coming out. And then the lyrics, like, just started coming out, too. So that one is, like, began very spontaneously on stage. Does that throw off the band and the dude running the video projector going, uh, uh, uh, we don't have those words. Exactly. We can't download them from CCLI right now, either. I don't know what to do. There's nothing, yeah. Well, it's the Holy Spirit's, like, downloading it to them, too. It could happen. Um, but yeah, no, I mean, luckily, kind of just, like, at that service, like, after the message, it's usually pretty open, and, um, you know, people were taking communion at the time, so I was just a good spot for it. And I could really see people being impacted by the lyrics, because it was just something about what was being preached. There was just kind of a deposit from the Spirit on stage. And just stepping in there, I just walked into it and, uh, just let God do what He wanted to do. So, um, so yeah, the song's just really, really peaceful, uh, connecting. I think it's just, uh, it's almost the cry of a son, uh, to his father.

And, uh, it's kind of interesting, you guys, uh, bring in, you know, the, the Proverbs, um, you know, the song, you know, Solomon, you know, wisdom, um, because the bridge has a proverb in it, um, you know, that God exalts the humble and opposes the proud. Um, so I put that in there. Is that NIV? That's a good question. Because that sounded pretty familiar. Okay. I'm going to keep that off the list, because, uh, Buck's cheating. He's bringing in twos with the lyrics embedded in there. He's got Proverbs stuffed in his music. That's right. Just like writing it on your arm. That's right. Uh, well, good. That's, uh, that sounds awesome. Let's, let's take a listen. This is Father. You're listening to Ryan Paul Buck on Live From The Path. Won't you, all of your way, God, I want all of your, oh, Father, to show me the glory of your name, glorify your name, belong. Awesome. That was Ryan Paul Buck. Uh, Ryan, thank you so much for coming on and business on Live From The Path. We really appreciate it. Yeah, definitely. It was great hanging with you guys. All right.

I'm glad you could come. Uh, you can find more about Ryan by going to ryanpaulbuck.com. Make sure you check it out. Pick up his album. Uh, you got any, are you, um, so do you still lead worship? Uh, currently no. I took a break from doing that. So are you, do you have any gigs or anything that people can come see you live? Yeah, I've got, um, I know I'm doing a Friday night fellowship here coming up in August at my church at Hope. Okay. It's on a Friday night in August, yeah. Well, cool. Well, I tell you, we might get some more information from that and just when it gets closer, just let some people know in case they want to come out. That'd be awesome. Uh, Ryan, thanks for coming. We're going to, um, we're going to take a quick break. I'm going to, uh, because, uh, uh, Daniel Brown from the, from Saved on Sunday is on, um, I'm going to go ahead and play the second anniversary clip video. Um, Mike and Daniel, uh, got in a foot race at the Spirit Midwest Music Festival of which Mike lost pretty handily, I might add. It was embarrassing. Um, but, uh, I'm going to play that for you guys. And, uh, during that time, we're going to take a quick break and then we will join you right back for the second hour of the show. Thank you for listening to Ryan Paul Buck on Live from the Path.

You're listening to Live from the Path. All right. You were listening to Live from the Path. Well, you're listening to Live from the Path. Welcome to Live from the Path. Well, you're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. You're listening to Live from the Path. Oh, but I really just want to be able to do these heroin gang. Fine, Joe. Ed Cole, please. Welcome to Give Me Money. Jim Neighbors would never betray Jesus. Ed, tell him you saw Billy at the fair. Yeah, she kind of looked like she was defending Ewok territory. Come on. Where's that stick? I think this is what it was. Point to toes. Point to toes. There you go. Straight. My camera appears to be broken. I'm regrowing my teeth. Can I tell you that? Yeah. Stick.

I'm doing it as the good Lord made me. 60% stiffness. But we've got a lot of apologies. Come on. Where's that snake? We are Leo. That is one crazy lady. I'm not happy. I love you. Fellas, how often do you cut your hair? How often do you get your hair cut? How often do you get your hair cut? How often do people get your hair cut? Even Jesus people use the potty. With 100% chance of rain, as is, it's raining right now. That's Troy Spangalanger. It's going to smell like a fish hut in there. Good shot, Winston. Trends are up. Salaries are down. Not for us, eh? Yeah, Spangalanger. 13, 13, 13. Comes after 12. You mean, what the hell? I mean, they actually spit in their coffee. I travel with a small cat. Is that going to be all right?

Let's do that classic bit about you and Dan's shirt. The last time that happened in front of a group of this size, I wet myself and spit the rest of the 8th grade in a small room. Stop that. That's cheesy. I once flew in high heels and it was a total mistake at the tent stage and Chris Roloff comes. Okay. There goes that guy and his butt. Hi. Hello. Although the guy on the far right is fetching. He did that. Jimmy John's a Jimmy John. I went. Pretty good. I'm just saying sometimes I wish I was part of the bands that come in here. And that's right for awkward moments. I can go with them. And you can go out in the parking lot and say, don't see anything here. Let's drive a little to the quick trip. And then we'll talk about it. Come on. Shake it. It's not a harp. Come on. Can I get that in an 8×10? That's a mistake. I thought it was a fucking boom. Shut up.

What? The guy's got a drunk. Don't spray up there. Music play Thor. Check it out. Is that the fried pickle sandwich? It's about the people. Fried pickle cheeseburger sandwich. I've never had a fried pickle. He tells that joke again. We're going to have to toss him. Like a Wisconsin thunderstorm. Dan to Dan. What's the Hebrew for number two? Wait a minute. That sounds like my food. It's not dead. He was still alive. Pancake. Pancake. Syrup. Syrup. Actually, I've been brushing my teeth for 29 years. And I seem to be hitting this. We're doing what the cool people do. We let men abuse us. Yeah. Yeah.

We let men abuse us. Dan, that's ridiculous. Dan, that's ridiculous. Where's bang? That's got some zip. Out of my dreams, get in the backseat, baby. You can't put Jesus in a song where they use the phrase, get in the backseat, baby. The Piatos. A little easier to look at than Mike. It's called the Blueberry Ugly. The Solomon Show. And welcome back to The Solomon Show, where we spend time on the three W's. Wisdom, wives, and war with Palestine. My in-studio guest tonight is my arch-nemesis, Secular. Thanks for coming on. Before we get started, let me just say this. You, sir, are a punk. The Solomon Show. A new television show called Gunsmart. Oh, I'm not it. Hello, lady. Look at your man. Now back to me. Now back at your man. Now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me. But if he stopped using lady-centered body wash and switched to Old Spice, he couldn't smell like it. The theme of the Life from the Path program is find cool people, bring them in, and then kind of parasite yourself onto them.

We're also talking to Annie and Kelly. Supernaw's live in studio. Double J's in studio. We are Leo is in studio. Rick Charlton's in. We are joined by John Waller. Hey, John. In studio, we got Pants Talk Box Whetstone. We're in studio with Kevin Lindgren. Jessa and Jordan Anderson have joined us in the studio. We are joined by Don Hensley. Shane Manhart is in studio with us. Wayne Stewart is here. Chris Day. Jeff Arendale and company are in studio today. My monkeys, when we were younger, we had monkeys. God said that we are to make love. Modest is hottest. I'm moving to Europe. I'm going to tell you something. This is the best show we've ever done. All right. You're listening to Life from the Path. Thanks for coming back with us. Sweet Moses. That's the back of my head. Yeah. I took over the guest spot.

Ask me questions. I'll tell you what I'm about. Why do you have such a funny haircut? It's because I cut it myself. Why don't you go to the Fantastic Sam's? It's because I'm poor. Because I spend my money frivolously on stupid things. Like power amps? Yeah. That's what I'm looking to buy. Power amp. All right. You're listening to Life from the Path. If you're just joining us, you missed a really cool first hour with Ryan Paul Buck. Make sure you go to ryanpaulbuck.com and check out more information about him. I feel like I could have arm wrestled him. Well, I think it's very possible. And I could have won. Yeah. But that was the only impression that I had. That's it? Yeah, that's it. We're good. I mean, his tunes were fantastic. And he's obviously extremely talented. So I thought there's no use in trying to beat him in his own game, you know? So I think we should arm wrestle him or something. I wonder if he's a good juggler.

Yeah. Or how well he is at ping pong. He probably doesn't broom right. You know, he's one of those guys that brooms with more of a push than a pull. Those guys are worthless at the broom. Seriously. I was sitting in the hall for one of his tunes right before I came in. And there were a few times where, like, I thought it was going to end. And he came back rocking. It was like three times. It was like, ah, it's not slowing down. You know what? But he's a tune orchestrator, you know? Like, he'll let it die down. And then he'll just come, you know, rolling back in. Which, obviously, I mean, that doesn't translate to the brooming world. But in the music world, you know, if you're like a rise and fall broom man, once again, you're just not that important. So there you go. Here's what we've got coming up in the second hour. We're going to give some advice. People need help. People need help out there. And they're saying, dear life in the path, I just need some help. So we're going to see if we can dole out some – our best attempt at godly wisdom. So we're going to give that a shot. And then also we're going to continue in our exploration of the 50 proofs that God is not real. If you go to GodIsImaginary.com, he's got 50 proofs that he says God is not real.

Last week we talked about prayer. I'm going to hit on that. I just got a couple other thoughts from that, so we're going to hit that real quick. And then we'll move on. Number one and two were both prayer-based, so we're going to hit number three. And we're going to see what the GodIsImaginary.com guy has to say about God and see if we can come to some kind of resolution on that particular item. Very cool. All right, so let's hit the advice. Mike, what do you got? Okay, so we got dear life in the path. How important are a dying person's last wishes? My dad died recently and said that he wanted to be buried with his first wife in a state far from where we live. If his estate or his current wife can't afford to comply with his request, would it be horrible to do something else? In today's economy, most seniors don't have any extra income. To follow dad's final wishes would take a sizable chunk of his estate. His wife feels it's not important to follow his last wishes because of the cost, but it really bothers me. Dad was in the Navy during World War II. If his wife isn't willing to spend the money, would I still be a good guy by scattering his ashes in the ocean? I know he'd rather be in the deep than sitting on a shelf in the work shed. Please help. Fellas. Nathaniel. Yeah, do whatever you want with him. You know, he's dead. He didn't care anymore. You don't think it's important to honor his last wishes?

No. I mean, he's dead. Now, hold on. Make sure you're answering the question correctly. The question is not whether you would care whether someone honored your last wishes or whether you would even have last wishes to care about. The question is, is this man has given his preferences as his last wishes. Should they be honored? Nah. I don't think it's that important. No. No. Note to self, don't have Nathaniel near you. No doubt. He will not be my power of attorney. Nathaniel, here's my last 20 bucks. Make sure my wife gets it. Oh, yeah, right, sure. Yeah. After my finder's fee. I'll get that. I'll get that right to you. By the way, I took his left thumb from my mantle. You're a weird dude. What can I say? I love thumbs. Chad says it's very important. So it's his son, and he's okay with cremation because he talked about maybe scattering his ashes in the sea.

So if they're doing the ashes thing, it's not that expensive no matter where you go because you already have him as ashes. You can put him in the trunk of your car, and it's not like a body. Now, will they bury ashes? Like, let's say you already own the plot, right? And so could you have him cremated in Ohio, drive him to Florida, and then bury him next to his wife as ashes? Yes. That seems like a better solution to me. That's economical. I mean, it's not like you don't send the body there to have cremated. I assume the body transport is the expensive part. I would think so. Are you allowed to transport a dead body? No. Like, that's illegal? Illegal, yeah. Even if it's like my own dad. Exactly. Well, that's crap, man. Who owns it? I don't make the rules. Yeah, that's not fair. Who owns my dad after he dies? They think it's a health issue or something, zombies or something. I don't know what it is. It would be like carrying animal carcasses around. I mean, there's not really much of a difference. Do you have a tag for that?

It's my grandma. Yeah, I don't see the animal control guy getting a bunch of snake from the state, you know? I feel like I should be able to transport my old man wherever he wants to go, in the back of my Buick, sitting him up like he's a passenger. Yeah, I don't have a problem with it, but there are officials who would have problems with it. Ah, there's a red tape in this country. I'm telling you. Okay, so either way, I think that cremation's not a bad idea. I think you cremate them? Yeah. And you honor them? I assume he already owns the plot, right? It's not like it's next to his wife. Probably. I mean, it's a little awkward to tell your current wife, hey, I would like to be married with my former wife. Or to do, or to be buried by both where you have some kind of cemetery harem. Would that be kind of awkward? Yeah. How do them, I don't know how they do it. I don't know how they do it. This is why the Lord set it up the way he did, you know what I'm saying? Just marry one time. I said, how does like a Utah cemetery work? I don't know. It's like a circular thing, a whole bunch of women around. Yeah, no doubt. I don't know.

Pretty poor. Okay, so I'm on board with the cremation in Harlem. I think it's a good story. But let's say you can't, let's say he said, I don't want to be cremated. This is what I want. Like, let's say his dying wishes are, I only want to be flown to Florida and buried. Yeah, here's the deal. If it can't be done, like dollar-wise it can't be done, I would have to assume, unless this guy's a real jerk. Well, actually, let's take the premise that he's a jerk. Okay? Okay. If he's a jerk, I'm not going to spend a lot of money trying to honor his wishes. If he's not a jerk, then I think he would rather I not be like put out selling my car just to get him to Florida. Yeah. With his remains. He's making an inconvenience on his current wife, if it's a big part coming out of the estate. Is it an estate, though? I'm assuming all of it goes to her. Yes. I mean, so is that really an estate? It's just, it's now she takes over the finances. I mean, like an estate, you sell everything and divide it. But, um, so he, he, yeah, he's asking his, his current wife to reconnect him with his former wife. I don't, I wouldn't have a problem with her not doing that if she wanted, he wanted to

have the body transported and all that stuff and all this expense. You know, I want it to be a pain for you, cost you a lot of money, and I don't care where you get buried, but I'm with, you know. It just seems like an extremely selfish thing to say. You know what I'm saying? Like after you're dead, what, what honestly do you really care? Like I'm, I would more disagree with the old man that he's putting people in some straits here. Like, yeah, I would hope, like I, I, I'm, it's probably very hard. I've never, I haven't had to bury a spouse. You know, I don't know what that feels like. I'm sure it's awful. But like, I would hope that, uh, you know, my wife would just cremate me and call it a day and be done. Wait a minute. It just, it just occurred to me, his ex, his ex-wife's already dead. Yes. So it's not necessarily like, like they got divorced. No, no, no. I was kind of thinking this too. What are you, man, what are you doing? But yeah, it's like he, he had his first wife. So they could have gotten married late and maybe they've only been married three or four years. I mean, we don't know that. That's, that's totally reasonable. Unless it's going to cost a ton of money. Cause I was first thinking that's kind of hurtful.

I feel like you're kind of on the fence, Dan. You're not really steered us in any direction here. Well, I think, I think, I think you do the cremation and then do it. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's reasonable. Okay. Now, Nathaniel, after listening to this conversation, are you say like, you're still on whatever, screw the old man, I'll do what I want. Yeah. Okay. That's kind of what you're summing it up to. No. No, his, his wishes are being, are being carried through. Yeah. You're just sending the cremations instead of the. Now, now some of the older generation are opposed that there was a big deal. And the kind of address in the chat here. Yeah. There was a big, a lot of Christians back in the day were opposed to cremation because it was maybe a little too close to some pagan rituals at death. I don't have, personally don't have a problem. I figure I'll be cremated. To the, to the extent, like it says the body is the temple. It is as such because God is coming to live, like the Holy Spirit is coming to live within you at the time that you die, I don't think you, you're so left, but Christ is like the Holy Spirit's hanging around in your remains. Right. The body's no longer the temple.

Pumpeting yourself around. Yeah. Hanging out in your coffin wondering, hey man, that's so stuffy in here. Watch me twitch your finger. I would say, so like, think of it that way. It's the temple as you live. Once you die, you are joining God in heaven. The Holy Spirit is not remaining in your deceased body. So it is not the temple where God resides. And frankly, I don't think it matters. Yeah. That's where I agree. Oh. Okay. So here is secular advice. Your letter illustrates why it is important for people to have their wishes in writing. In this case, your father's wife would have the right to his ashes unless it was stated otherwise in black and white. As far as granting a personal last wish, you need to use your best judgment, particularly if doing so would cause financial hardship. In this case, cremation would be a creative way to make everyone happy. This is where she turned from us. Your father's ashes could be divided into thirds, with one portion placed on his first wife, another with his second wife, and the rest scattered at sea. I hope I get the legs. I mean, doesn't that seem weird? I don't know about splitting dad into three. I would just, I think I'd say, look, you just keep my third.

And, you know. It's creepy. You go to cemetery or to, you know, funeral homes these days, and you get to the crematory part, and they have, like, little lockets that you can have, like, your loved one's ashes and a locket that you wear around your neck. That just creeps me. Like, I get that stuff. It's just not for me. Like, it's just not for me. I just don't, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't creep me like, ooh, I have a dead person, but it's just kind of like, go ahead and let them, you know, just bury them. I mean, let the memory cherish that, but, you know, keep a shirt. Yeah, yeah. It's his old cologne, you know. Ooh, this still smells like John. Well, if he mixed Old Spice and Aqua Velva, you know, just keep a mixture at your place and, you know, spray it around. It is kind of like holding on to a femur just with some heat added. I mean, it's the same basic principle as if you had, like, one of his legs hanging up in your dining area above the mantle. Right. Have you ever seen cremains? Huh. I kind of like it. I thought I've seen a lot, but I've seen some. I like that, too. Like, do you know the old days they had, like, the white sand and the ashtrays?

Yeah. That's what made me think. That's what it's like. That's what I thought. I didn't, like, touch it, but, I mean, to look at it. Yeah, so the chat was saying, to answer the question about the ashes, they have buildings on some cemeteries. You can buy a drawer and then, like, put up a plaque. I think it's nice to have a place to go. I mean, even if it's just, like, a formality thing is to, you're going, we're going to go visit so-and-so, and it's just a time to think about them, and you have to go somewhere to do it, not, like, casually. I mean, if you have them up in the living room or whatever, you could have ran naked between the bathroom and your, you know, bedroom in front of that urn not 10 hours ago, and it's hard to, like, step in front of me, like, oh, now, we're going to spend our memories. It's our memory time. Like, that locket thing just seems weird to me. Like, just your daily routine is like, okay, got my wallet, got my keys, got my uncle. You know, like, I don't know. It just, it's different. It's just, it's not for me. I think I, I mean, I can, I don't know where people do that for. I just don't think I could. I don't think I would. Okay. Dear Life from the Path, my spouse, Jack, and I were married four years ago. Three years ago, he made me choose between him and my then seven-year-old son. I haven't spoken to or seen my son for three years.

Not having my child in my life has made me become depressed, but I keep it bottled up inside. Jack has three kids, all adults. We rarely see them. I brought two children into our marriage, ages seven and 14. Jack says he doesn't want to be a father or a grandfather. We have three grandchildren. I am scared to question why it is like this. Am I a terrible mother, grandmother? Does this mean he doesn't really love me since my children are a part of me? I want to be a grandmother and enjoy my grandkids. He knew I had kids when we were dating, but both of them lived with relatives at the time because of custody issues. All right, I'm going to answer the direct question that she asked without tailoring it. And yes, you are a bad mother and grandmother. Yes, I would question that he loves you. He does not like your kids. Yes. Everything that you are concerned that you are, you know that you are. You're trying to find someone in some kind of crazy liberal world to give the impression that that is not a problem. But yes. This language is terrible, right? He made me choose between him and my seven-year-old son, and I haven't seen my son for three years. Like, I was expecting it to say, and so we divorced immediately. Or I decided not to marry this man because he tried to get me to choose between my kids. How did they not have that conversation before marriage? I mean, she sounds like she's old enough she should know better. Although, if there's custody issues, there's probably evidence that there's some things she doesn't do well in relationships. See, like, I read this, and it just breaks your heart, right? Because this is what happens when you get so far out of the Bible that you're looking for advice on things where God has been so clear,

so distinct about how marriage and kids and a spousal relationship works, that there was no woman on earth that would accept a deadbeat like that. But, like, seriously, he's a terrible excuse for a man, a terrible excuse for a man. I tell you, it's always true. You violate Scripture, it leads to pain. And here's a gal filled with pain. She was in pain before. She was in pain when she met the guy. She was in pain when she made all these poor choices that violated Scripture. I mean, and now her son's in pain. Her family's in pain. Her husband's in pain. I mean, it's all a bunch of pain. I don't know. Like, usually we go through pretty lighthearted questions here, right? Like, ha, ha, ha, you know, this guy's a doofus. Ha, ha, ha. He doesn't get social situations. But, like, someone is actually, like, this is a true story for somebody. My husband told me that I had to choose between him and my son, and I kicked my 7-year-old son out. To where? Where did you send your kid? You know, like, I don't care who it is. It's not with you. Yeah. You know, like, he was in your custody before. I don't know. Maybe someone that makes such terrible decisions, like, maybe the kid's in a better spot.

Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. It's just sad. It's just sad. Well, I think there's a danger, because you can hear that. You can hear this situation, and if your actions go, oh, man, that's a terrible circumstance she finds herself in. And I would say, no, that's a terrible circumstance of what she created by previous decisions. Like, I think you can lament the fact of, like, where the whole situation sits. But where, societally, where we usually go is we're like, oh, man, that kind of stinks. I hope things work out. Or, you know, here's a way to deal with your current situation. As opposed to, like, reassessing how we ended up in this spot. And how we ended up in this spot is a separation of our responsibilities as parents, an understanding of what marriage should be. You know, and I think, like, the societal argument tends to eliminate God by ignoring the consequences that created the circumstance and just saying, oh, man, everybody has a rough circumstance. You should, you know, we should encourage people in their circumstances as opposed to learning something from that. We completely ignore the past and thus ignore God and end up somewhere, and we're like, I can't believe we ended up here. How did that go this way? Instead of saying, look, I hope things get better for you, saying, I hope you start making better decisions. Yeah. And stop acting so selfish. Life didn't do you a bad hand. Like, you jumped in a game, you were losing, and then, like, started dancing on the table. Right. Like, this is a prime example of the opposite of humble servanthood as a parent. Humble servanthood as a husband. You know, like, these are just selfish, not God-centered, not people-oriented decisions. Like, they're just not good.

Like, it's the ditching of responsibility for your version of happiness, which is obviously shallow and is not attained the way that, I don't know. It's just sad for both of them. Like, Jesus doesn't seem to be anywhere in this, you know, otherwise someone would go, hey, wait a minute. A man that gives me that ultimatum is not a man at all. You know, he's just a controlling doofus. Well, and I suppose it's probably worth looking at it from the perspective of the saddest part is the start of this where this woman doesn't have an image of what a proper father looks like, of what a proper husband looks like. Right. So, like, without understanding, you know, where I take my image of what a father and a husband should look like comes from the example of Christ and God the Father. Without that, yeah, you're prone to making weird choices. You set weird standards. Your standard becomes not, you know, how do they live up to where God wants them to live? It becomes, how do they make me feel? And if you're basing decisions based upon that, which, frankly, if you've thrown out God, I mean, there's not a lot of other options just to make your decisions. That's the world that we live in is, like, if there's otherwise not a compelling reason to make a decision on what God wants me to do, then I just make a decision on what I want to do. And how I feel about them is the primary motivator. With me as God, my motivation is to please me and honor me. And so, you know, I respond to a situation. She obviously chose him, which means there's something about that where she felt loved or, you know, gratification or something. But all of that comes from a worldview in which she does not have a – was denied or neglected or something in a circumstance to understand what that husband should look like, what a father should look like, what her role as a parent – I mean, I can't imagine. And I suppose it's possible her parents were top-notch, but, I mean, like, to have the vision of parenthood that she has would either imply potential drug use or serious psychotic problems or, like, a weird family environment, which you just don't – you don't make weird decisions. So, okay, let's pretend this gal suddenly becomes a Christ follower, and she comes in, and she's on the life from the path couch, and she says, what do I do now? Well, she's made these huge decisions outside of Christ in rebellion against God, but now she wants to honor God. What's her first move? That's the tough part, right? Yeah. It's like, okay, you've made this vow. You have a child from a previous relationship. I would say her –

Is this her – okay, so I'm asking you theologically for help here, right? Because I say the man's not doing his job. It sounds like grounds divorce to me, but it's not, right? No, it's not. Because it's – like, I mean, he's basically kicked out a kid for his own selfish reasons, and so, like, can she take responsibility of her child back and just – yeah. That would – I would say her responsibility is for the kid. She is not denying her vow to the man. Now, I don't know that he won't divorce her. That's possible. But I would say her responsibility is to the child. She – if it causes her to have to move out, if it causes her to have to care for the kid, I would say that is a responsibility of hers. And then she has a relationship issue to deal with the husband. My guess is the husband will divorce her. I don't think she should divorce the husband. Can you do that, knowing that the move will lead to divorce? Like, that just seems like a one step away from doing it anyway. I mean, that violates the whole submission thing. But she has a responsibility for the kid. Yeah. And one to her husband. Yeah. She's not required to submit to a non-biblical direction from a husband. See, that's where I'm at. She doesn't – biblically, I don't think there's a stance for divorce, but like – First Peter, where is that? But it's not – like, your top submission is submission to God, right? And so, like, if he is – if the husband – if your submission to the husband, to the husband's leadership is to, you know, provide direction that is outside of God, then otherwise you're not required. And wives, in the same way, be submissive to your husband, so that if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives when they see the purity and reverence of your lives, your beauty should come, yada, yada.

So that's being submissive even to an unbeliever. Agreed, unless that person is asking you to violate submission to Christ. Right. Like, do it Old Testament style. Like, let's say they were married, and he's like, we're going to start sacrificing to Baal. That's what we're going to start doing, and you're going to do it. And you say, no, I'm not. I won't. And he says, yes, you will. I mean, I tell you what, these verses here in 1 Peter 3 are a little crazy because then, you know, one of the examples is Sarah, who Abraham said, oh, she's my sister. You know, I mean, what? That's not – that wouldn't be submission to Christ. I don't know that the Bible validates it that Abraham was appropriate there. Right, but they're saying, let's be a little more like Sarah. Sarah. I'm just saying this is a sticky situation. They're so far out of the will of God, I don't think it's that easy to say, well, you've got to go with your child, or you go with the husband, or – I mean, I like your line of thinking of saying, okay, you've got to get right with your child. Has it been two years now, three years? Three. Who's now 10, and you've got to be responsible here. Or maybe the best thing, like someone said, maybe she's just such a poor mother. Okay, so does God validate each additional marriage that you have? Let's say you have a marriage, and then you divorce, and then you have a marriage, and you divorce, and third – or marriage number three, you are – now you're married, and you're like, you know, whatever. Like, is each additional marriage just keep being validated, like, okay, you're still part of a marriage, or is it like the first one is the one that was intended, or – I think it all depends. There's so many circumstances. Why is the marriage not still going on? If I'm married to Bathsheba, and I decide, you know, I don't know if I like her hair.

Or, you know, I'm more of a blonde person, so I divorce her and marry a blonde. Scripture says I'm committing adultery in the second relationship. Basically, if you – biblically, if you make that mistake, you get divorced, then you pretty much just don't get remarried. I'm a pretty hard liner on that. I guess that's what I'm getting at. Like, if this is her second marriage, the first one – and the first husband is still alive, does she owe any type of loyalty to this sinful second marriage to this guy? It's not a godly marriage anyway. Yeah, the whole – as I was going to say, this is such a mess. The whole thing is just a mess. It's hard to really wade through this stuff. For me, I sit there and – I see, I feel like a lot of this stuff is under grace and not law. Like, I feel a lot of it is under God's grace because, right, it gets so messed up. It's not like they're attempting to adhere to God's law. Like, it's just been abandoned. And so it just feels like it's all God's grace stuff. Like, you do what you can. Like, if the wife finds Christ and the man wants absolutely nothing to do with it, kicks in fighting, I say, look, you get your kid, you do your job, and make him divorce you, I guess. I don't know. But, like, I don't know how you could support staying in that relationship. Like, it says, look, I'm turning my life over to Christ. These are the things that are not going to happen anymore. He goes, oh, yeah, they are. This is what's going to happen. You're not bringing that kid back in here. I don't want him here. I don't want him. And so now she's got to make the choice again.

Does she pick between her son or her husband? Does she pick between Christ or her husband? I can't live a Christ life in this house. Well, I mean, I know, I think it depends on the husband's leadership as to whether he's actually leading them away from Christ. Like, if he's doing things, if he's not serving Christ, I mean, the biblical example for women is to continue to act in a way of which, you know, the husband can eventually come to Christ. So, like, that's a pretty clear example that, like, it does not give you license to just bail just because the guy's not following Christ. However, to the extent that he's leading you in a direction that is counter to your relationship with Jesus, that is, like, asking you to do things that are otherwise sinful, I think that's my reading is that that is where your submission is. I mean, there is in no case where God says, I want you to sin to accomplish my deeds. Correct. Right. The means, ends never justify the means. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, I would agree with that. I don't think biblically it gives you license to divorce, though. I mean, to the extent, I mean, if you get out of a situation, I think you're pulling yourself out of a particular set of circumstances. But that does not biblically give you the basis to sever the covenant completely because it's not yours to sever, you know, barring some of the stipulations that Jesus put. So, I mean, it may be, I mean, this is what this is, this is very difficult because you're talking about circumstances in which, like, the Bible handled two or three relatively direct items, and we have so perverted the culture that now you're asking questions that I, it's not that God didn't contemplate, but just Paul did not address. Yeah, yeah. But I think, like, to the extent, he's asking the woman to raise her child in what I would consider a sinful manner, to basically negate her responsibility for the child. And I think that basically is something that she is not required to submit to because it is sinful direction in her relationship with her child so she can reconcile with the child. I think that will cause relationship issues with her and the husband. I think they will try, she needs to try her best to work those out and be, allow his leadership in any ways that is not sinful. I think ultimately he will probably divorce her. She cannot control that. It's not her responsibility to try to, like, refuse to sign, I don't know, I don't think she has the grounds to try to refuse to do this thing if he wants to institute it. But I think that's, I think that's the plan of action.

That's the only thing, the direction that I would give, I guess. Because I think he's asking, he's asking her to be sinful in her relationship with her child. Yeah. Yeah. So secular's advice is? The chat says Nathaniel looks lost. Nathaniel looks tired. Where am I? Wait, wait, we ain't getting Nathaniel's opinion on this. Yeah, sorry, Nathaniel, go ahead. What are your thoughts? I agree with everything you said. Yeah. He brings the soda. The best color man in the business. That's what I do. I bring soda. That's all I'm here for. It says, it isn't that Jack doesn't love you. He appears to be, she doesn't know that for a fact. That's terrible. It isn't that Jack doesn't love you. He appears to be so preoccupied with his own needs, desires, and controlling you that he probably doesn't think about much else. That you are scared to question him speaks volumes about your relationship. If you want to be part of your children's and grandchildren's lives, you'll have to do so without his blessing or participation. You will also have to strengthen your backbone and emancipate yourself.

Eh. Eh, we're 50-50 on that. Okay, I got one more quick one. Ready? Okay. Dear, live from the path. One of my neighbors regularly uses his power equipment before 9 a.m. on Saturday mornings. I think that people should refrain from using loud machinery before 10 on weekends. Am I being unreasonable? Deb. Yes, Deb. You're being unreasonable. Yes, Deb. Yeah, Deb. And let me put it this way. I think there's, I mean, there's a courtesy item here. 10 a.m. I think is just a little stiff. That's pretty late. Half the day is over. Seriously. I mean, let's say you're going to get up, and let's say you're residing in your garage or something. You know, a man get up at 6.30, 7 o'clock on a Saturday, get the tools out by 8 o'clock. You want to be firing some stuff up. Yeah, yeah. I think before 7, you're really pushing it unless you've got some cool neighbors. I think 8 o'clock, that's reasonable, right? Yeah.

People are up. Things are happening. I mean, Deb, live in the country if you don't like living next to people who are carrying on their lives that make a little bit of noise. And don't have roosters. Hey, you know what? Okay. So that brings up a question. It's something that I was reading. It had to do with, like, privacy rights. Is there a couple that was, a lady that was living in an apartment, and apparently the couple that lived next door was loud in their activities. Got it? Like cooking and stuff. Things of that nature, sure. Okay. So anyway, she records this, and they're that loud. She can get a clear recording from within her apartment and then post it on the internet. And the question is, is that a violation of privacy for her having, she didn't put their names but said, sounds coming from 4B. Maybe this will embarrass them enough to try to keep it under control. And so, yeah. So, like, the question is, is, like, do you have a right to just? I think so. If it's on your property, that's the way it happens. There, I mean. I would, I don't know that I'd make a big deal out of it, you know? Like, apparently they were outrageous.

That was the way they were. I mean, if it was, like, included, like, you know, inappropriate words and stuff, then maybe I'd have something to say about it. But, like, I don't know. And if you're that loud, you want people to hear. And you might as well, I mean. Things are going good at your place, you know? They said, like, there was a lawyer that got in there, and his basic thing was, he's like, well, it may or may not be prosecutable. He goes, you didn't leave any personal information there to identify them. It's probably enough to embarrass them. There are laws in certain states about recording people without telling them. But to the extent that you're sitting in your own house. What are you going to do? Bound on the wall? I'm recording this. Excuse me. Maybe it would help. I thought it was an interesting discussion. Because, like, I would assume. If you just shouted, I'm recording this, they would think something. Wouldn't you rather, would you like to be the one-man wrecking crew that ruined their sex life? You know, like, things are going well, and then you're like, Mr. Namby Pamby, and so now they've got to try to keep quiet or keep it under wraps. That stinks. Now, here's the deal. So, like, we're talking about audio recording, right?

Because you say, I'm in my own house. I can hear it. It's not my fault. It's intruding on me. They're broadcasting into your walls. But, I mean, it would be, it's pretty close to the same thing as looking out your window, which is a view that you purchased with your video camera out and taking a shot of it. Yeah, that's illegal. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you can't do that. What? Seriously? Well, then. I better stop. Well, that's a conundrum. I never thought of it that way. It's pretty much the same thing. Like, that image is able to be seen from your house without you doing anything. You're not going out and seeking it. Well, except for you're using technology. So, it could be that this couple just is kind of hard of hearing, and they have to be allowed to hear each other. Maybe they're old people. Hey, yo! I don't know what you say. Maybe that says something. Let's not explore that. Anyway.

Hold on. Does it make it any different if they're, like, 85? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's cute if they're 85. I'd say so. That's cool. Okay. So, what are we at? 10 a.m. is out of here. The chat says go talk to them. I wouldn't. I mean, I don't think the lady even needs to go to talk to them. I think she just needs to butt out. At 10 a.m.? Don't you think that's a little late? I think she's being unreasonable. Yeah. All right. Go ahead, Mike. What's the secular advice? The secular advice for the 10 a.m. restriction is, Not in my book. Most municipalities have noise ordinances in place that regulate sound levels that might become an annoyance. To find out if there's one in your neighborhood, inquire at City Hall.

If there isn't, consider gathering signatures on a petition so regulations can be established. You may not be the only neighbor who's bothered by this. Whatever. She's a freaking annoyance. I'm going to turn her in. I'm going to tell you what. This is what's wrong with America. I don't like you using a weed eater. At 8.30 in the morning, I'm going to go tell Frank I'm going to have him sign stuff and we're going to go down to the hall and blah, blah, blah. Get out of the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? Just go live somewhere else. Now, it has driven us crazy before when the only day of the week, and it's not every Saturday, that we could, you know, whatever we call sleep in, and our retired neighbor next door, you know, is mowing at 6 a.m. And it's like, really? I mean, you have nothing to do all week long but sit in a lawn chair and go, hey! You know, and it's like, really? You chose?

But we don't get that upset. We're just like, ugh, you know, and then we get up and make a bunch of noise. Why do the old retired dudes like to do that? They do. They like to be up at 6 in the morning doing yard work. I mean, that required electronic equipment. I just don't get it. Can they go to bed at like 7? What do you expect? Well, couldn't they mow before they go to bed? It's still light out. No, their bones creak after 5. They're full from the old country buffet at 4.30, and then they gotta let it digest. Chat says, Des Moines has a law. It says 9 a.m. Can't mow before 9 in Irmondale. Ah, what a bunch of yuppies. Seriously, let a guy cut his grass. When's a working man supposed to get this stuff done? You know what I'm saying? You work 40 hours a week. You come home. Let's say you're trying to live the Jesus life. So you gotta spend the nighttime with your family. You know, put your kids to bed. Teach them the Bible.

You know, pray with your wife. Serve your family. You know, take care of some stuff. And then Saturday morning rolls around, and that grass has gotta get mowed by somebody. So you put it off till 11 o'clock. You might as well just chuck the day. Because by the time you get the mower out, find out you're out of gas. Go back up, get some gas. Time for lunch. Then it's time to get something to eat. You know what I'm saying? Like, your whole Saturday will poof be gone. Sunday shows up. Now you're back serving the Lord at church. So you get up early there. You know, you get out of the house. You're gone most of the day serving Jesus. By the time you get home at 2 o'clock, everybody's tired. Yeah. Your family's taking a nap. So then you can't run the mower. So the day is, the weekend's gone. When's a good, Christ-loving man gonna mow his yard? When's he gonna go to the bank? You get direct deposit.

I internet bank. Yeah. And you hire someone to do the lawn. I can take pictures of my check with my phone. Jesus does not provide me with enough money to have someone mow my lawn. I feel like I need more penance. I don't know. I don't know about that penance. All right, hey, you're listening live from the path. That was some good advice. If this was you, if you were any of the items, any of the people that submitted for the advice this week, I'm very sorry that you've ended up in these type of circumstances. Pull yourself together. Love Jesus and just start talking to people. Open up Galatians. We'll send our bill. You're being a curmudgeon. All right. All right, so hey, let's, oh man,

time is a flying. Let's see if we can hit this. So we've been talking about godisimaginary.com. Basically, guys got 50 proofs that God is imaginary. Last week, we talked a little bit about prayer. And you know, there was something, who's talking, what are you guys talking about? Nathaniel touched my leg underneath the table and I didn't want to make a big thing out of it, but he's making a big thing out of it. So the premise of number one and number two are basically that prayer is false. If you pray for something, it says, Jesus says that, you know, if you pray for something, it will be given unto you. And he goes through

some various picking and choosing scripture without giving the full counsel of God. And there's a lot to digest in that thing. But I think here's the thing to look at. His basic premise was everyone prays tonight in the name of Jesus to have all cancer cured and we should be able to expect that it is done. And so I think ultimately it comes down to on his view of prayer is he's just looking at prayer wrong. First of all, everybody praying that prayer, prayer that is to be answered by God comes at the aid of the Holy Spirit. You are going to be praying stuff that God will otherwise say yes to. If everyone is praying, that obviously does not

add any force to it. These are guys, you're just basically toying with God and saying, do what I want. God is not here to serve you. You are to serve him. So the thought that you will just tell him what to do, test the Lord thy God, I might add. Which Jesus and parts of Deuteronomy specifically said do not do. True. So that is doing that. So that's going to be a problem. Also, it assumes that disease is something that otherwise was not part of God's plan. He is well aware of it. He talks in Exodus, or excuse me, Leviticus, about sending disease

to people. I create the blind, I create the deaf. These are things God is aware of. They are not surprises to him. Some are simply consequences of the way that people live, of which are naturally and intended, and to take that away would otherwise, you know, he obviously is aware of these things. It also assumes that cancer is inherently bad, which is interesting coming from an atheist perspective, which has gotten rid of God, so like, there is no firm good or bad that is open for interpretation. I think generally you would say that

cancer rarely turns out well, but circumstances can be what they may, of which there could be a positive impact on someone's life for being sick, but the underlying assumption is that we all can agree on what is good and bad and cancer is implicitly bad, which is a moralistic view of which atheism would not subscribe to because there's not a firm judgment on what is good or bad. There's not a moral authority. It is in the eyes of everyone. And the other question that I thought that was interesting was what an atheist would accept as an answer to prayer. And that's, their standard

of what is an acceptable answer requires the miraculous, right? Because if I say I prayed for, I was in financial trouble and I prayed to God for help, and if my uncle showed up and gave me 500 bucks, they'd say, well, that's just a coincidence. Your uncle just happened to give you 500 bucks. Or if I won the lottery, well, that's just a coincidence. You won the lottery. You know, or I got a raise at work. Anyway, those are just coincidence things that happen. So the only thing, only circumstance in which they would accept that God is interjected would be packaged from God. Here's $500.

Right, that God does not use his own creation and the organization that he set up in it to provide things for you. Yes, yes. And so, from a standpoint, the reason prayer, the prayer distinction, the discussion will never go anywhere with someone that comes from an atheistic perspective is that the outset of their belief system disregards any possibility for supernatural activity. And for prayer to be true in their perspective would require supernatural activity.

So it's self-defeating to the extent that they've proposed something of which they on the outset do not believe. Right. It cannot happen. Everything else is a worldly coincidence. The only proof that they would accept that God has worked a miraculous prayer answer and not through his creation but just something that just happened out of anywhere would be something miraculous of which they on the offset do not believe and so it's self-refuting. So that's the basis for someone who says I don't believe in prayer. They're coming from

a perspective which God they do not believe in a God that answers prayer and both of which would require miraculous things and they would say well you know I don't believe in miraculous things so like it's not prayer that they don't believe and they don't believe in supernatural which would then preclude prayer. Right. So there you go. That was beautiful. Yeah. There you go. Everybody love it. So here's number three on the list. God is imaginary.

50 proofs that God is imaginary. Proof number three look at historical gods. The belief in quote unquote God seems to be ubiquitous through the ages. We know for example that the ancient Egyptians believed in their gods so fervently that they built massive structures like the great pyramids still today one of the largest and most enduring human constructions ever created. Despite that we know with complete certainty today that the Egyptian gods were imaginary. Most recently we know that

tens of millions of Romans worshipped Jupiter and his friends and to them they built magnificent temples. The ruins of these temples are popular tourist attractions even today. Much more recently we know that the Aztec civilization believed in their gods so intensely that they constructed huge temples and pyramids. Today's god in quotes is just as imaginary as were these historical gods. The fact that millions of people worship a god is meaningless.

So the basic premise is that God is imaginary because historically look at all the people that have believed in false gods or imaginary gods. that's a ridiculous argument. It has nothing to do with it. What other people believe or think or have done in the past have nothing to do with faith in Jehovah God. That's like saying I believe in black ants and he says no there's red ants so there can't be black ants. It has nothing to do with the fact

where there's red ants and black. It's like if Dan says I'm a clown and you're not like I'm a professional clown and they say well Dad didn't let the example finish and he goes yeah. Let's say Dan's a clown. Oh yeah okay I'm with you. I like where this is going. So Dan says I'm a professional clown and I find out that Dan is not a professional clown which means that there are no professional clowns. That's the logic inherent in this thing. So it is ridiculous. It's not a mode of logic. Yeah. Number three is a fail. I'm actually pretty

disappointed in this because like the prayer thing the guy actually took some effort to try to put together incorrectly. It was a clever argument. It wasn't bad. But here he's just saying other things were false so like you can't stand on the principle that because so many now to the extent that he says because so many people believe it doesn't make it true that's accurate. I agree with that perspective but because other people were wrong doesn't make me wrong. Yeah. It just means other people were wrong.

So. Yeah. That is pretty weak boy I'm kind of disappointed. That's really weak. That's what I'm saying. Like he's I mean he's a he's a fairly well I'm sure he fancies himself to be fairly astute but like that one And we're pretty not. That one yeah that's right I mean we're a table full of dummies but the Lord Jesus picked that one right out and said come on boys No. Seriously if you're going to be on the opposite side of Jehovah you best bring your A game. You know what I'm saying. And it's an interesting

too from an atheistic perspective because that is the there is no God. That is a like from a strength in numbers that's a very minor position is it not because the one thing that we have in common say with Islam and the Jewish religion consistently there's a God. Right. All like all three of those which makes up the vast majority of people leanings, commitment or otherwise right believe that there is a God even if it's not the same one. Right. So the

the minor position the vast minority position is that there is no God at all. And so the only way to justify that is the strength in numbers argument is completely wrong. So he's not just saying Christians are wrong you're also saying Muslims are wrong the Jews are wrong Hindus, Buddhists like pick one anybody that believes in a higher power you're saying that they are also wrong. So I mean I'm just saying like that's that's kind of a weird perspective. He's got this on the Jesus side

but like seriously you're saying that about every religion that is not atheist. Yeah. And he's got 50 right? 50 reasons. Yeah. So some have to be weak. Are there are there are there just as many like blog postings and anti you know Muslim theology websites? Oh it'll kill you. That's fierce man. Well it just like it always like I always go back to like you know if they find a kangaroo meat in the Burger King

hamburger you know two years later everybody thinks it was McDonald's because McDonald's is the forerunner in the fast food industry you know and so like it seems like like if if Jesus Christ didn't have the power that he did and claimed to be the God that he is you know would he be taking so much fire? You know I mean you don't you don't see the Buddhist religion taking so much heat you know there's not like

an anti-Buddhist blog where there's website upon website of guys stewing their beard reading the Buddhist calculations going hey this is why the Buddhists are wrong I thought the world should know because they don't care they're not a threat yeah the reason for that is because Buddhism is not a threat to people's themselves as gods right? In fact it pretty much promotes that type of thing you're always looking at your inner self your inner being what I want what I feel

what I am as a as ultimately a promotion from me as a living being to God a lot of the other religions have you behaving in a certain way where you become God as opposed to God coming to you and so like it's not a threat to how you live your life it doesn't tell you what to do it doesn't tell you how to be it just says look more to yourself think about yourself do for yourself I mean there's some there's some moral things that would be in agreement with Christianity

in some of those but like like ultimately the broad thing is a be moral for self-worship not be moral for God worship and so I mean it's just not a threat to anybody Jesus is a threat because Jesus says change your life submit to me right you're going to have to stop doing this or you're going to have to start doing that and people go you know I don't want to get up in here later at 6 o'clock to mow my lawn

my neighbors will hate me okay well that was it I don't know that was kind of man I thought we were going to have to I mean usually that guy that guy's pretty in depth I thought we were going to have to hash it out for a while but well he's got to give us a few softballs yeah if he's going to try to come up with 50 I mean that's a lot that was a filler one yeah okay

are you still on that website yeah take a look at week 24 what we're going to hit let's see what let's see what the topic is okay week 24 proof number 4 ask why religion causes so many problems opening salvo if God were to exist wouldn't you expect there to be huge benefit to those who follow and obey him why instead do we see the opposite so people actually who had the exact same lament in the Old Testament I just read it

Ezekiel no no it had to have been Jeremiah had to have been where he's like why do why do why do these people continue to succeed why do the the corrupt and the greedy continue to succeed and the the God living man just is down yeah that's Jeremiah yeah and so like Jeremiah had this exact same lament why does this go down the way it does I don't have I don't remember

what God answered so I just remember thinking Jeremiah God's answer basically was that their time will come like we're always constricted by time like the amount of time it takes for something to happen God doesn't sweat that it's been two months two years you know 200 years like we sweat that because time has passed but it doesn't mean anything to God he's like I know the justice will be served I'm just not worried about it

you know but it's the time concept that causes us problems we feel like God is behind our schedule that's a self glory thing that's bad so anyway we can look forward to that on week 24 yeah I'm pumped are you going to read you're not going to be here maybe nope that's quite a wave so anyway so next week it's Christmas break we're going to move on to proof number 4 which is the title is think about science

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