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Live From The Path · Season 2012, Episode 32

Leprechauns And Heaven

Recorded · 1:02:19 · 11,879 words transcribed

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Topics covered

Segments

  • Show open and creeper banter 0:09–2:05
    The show opens from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. The hosts riff on viewers being 'creepers' who can see them while they can't see back, then debate what a manly shower curtain looks like — settling on moose silhouettes and trees for the log-cabin feel.
  • Guest intro, Gomez tire shops, and the show outline 2:05–7:34
    The hosts announce that Chris Roloff is in studio as the night's guest and will play music. Comedy bits cover a guy named Gomez opening numbered tire shops in Des Moines, a fake 'bill for philanthropy' scheme, a fraudulent ad ('Brought to you by Lady Speed Stick'), and the night's topics: proof #17 on leprechauns, Dear LFTP advice letters, Troy's run-in with David, and a study on churchgoers not reading the Bible.
  • Proof #17 read aloud: think about leprechauns 7:34–10:06
    A host reads the full text of proof #17 from godisimaginary.com, which argues God is imaginary the same way leprechauns are imaginary: no physical evidence, no answered prayer by statistics, no divine response to atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS, and a Bible that is 'provably incorrect.'
  • Roundtable rebuttal: intelligent design and leprechauns 10:07–16:49
    Troy is invited to respond and argues from intelligent design, citing astronomy and molecular biology. The guest Chris Roloff flips the proof, arguing leprechauns 'exist' by its own standard — cereal, books, legends, TV appearances. The hosts counter that the author invents what God would do (a red t-shirt, taking over TV stations) and that historical gods were real spiritual beings, just not the true God. Ben is addressed directly in the exchange.
  • Atheists, the CNN Belief blog, and the party conventions 16:49–22:27
    A host recounts getting stuck in the CNN Belief blog comments after atheists felt snubbed by the convention process and the Democratic platform briefly dropping God. The hosts argue Christians should not fight over God's name in a party platform — 'Jesus is not on the ticket' — and cite an article on increased illegal sex trade at the conventions as evidence the fight misses the point. They land on 'shake the dust' and 'pearls before swine' rather than endless argument.
  • How we know God is real: tradition and personal testimony 22:28–26:35
    Wrapping up proof #17, the hosts argue all knowledge is passed on — illustrated by an old joke about Hittites and by a story of teaching his daughter about Ronald McDonald from a Minute Maid juice box. A host adds that beyond tradition and biblical evidence, he has a personal, responsive relationship with God and a peace unbelievers do not have, citing the Lee Strobel case as a model of the evidence argument.
  • Preview: proof #18 — Imagine Heaven 26:35–27:46
    The hosts preview next week's proof #18, 'Imagine Heaven,' a hypothetical dialogue between Norm and a guy named Chris about eternal life, noting it name-checks the book Left Behind.
  • Mid-show station IDs and the two YouTube channels 27:47–28:54
    The hosts give station IDs — livefromthepath.org and the two YouTube channels (full archives and clips) — joking that the two channels are 'much like the Holy Trinity.'
  • Troy's question: David, Bathsheba, and 'a man after God's own heart' 28:54–38:09
    Troy recounts reading 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel for the first time and being appalled by the Bathsheba-and-Uriah story: David sees Bathsheba bathing from the palace roof, lies with her, gets her pregnant, and has her husband Uriah killed. A host corrects that the first child dies and Solomon comes later. The question: how can David be called a man after God's own heart? The answer given: David was not perfect, but he truly repented — Nathan's rebuke brought an immediate 'I have sinned against the Lord' (2 Samuel 12:13), and Psalm 51 shows his grief.
  • David's hair, Absalom's hair, and why translations keep some words 38:09–41:51
    A comedy detour into whether David had curly, 'luscious' hair and the son whose thick hair caught in an oak tree leads to a real question: why do English translations sometimes break back to the original words, like 'raca' or Christ's words on the cross? The answer offered: transliteration happens when translators cannot agree on a rendering — examples given include baptism, angel, and Sanhedrin.
  • Meet the guest: Chris Roloff, shampoo, and hair in a can 41:51–43:40
    The hosts formally introduce Chris Roloff as their 'musical slash intellectual guest.' Banter about his 'luscious locks' spirals into shampoo-versus-conditioner habits, regrow shampoo that tingles, and the revelation that spray-on hair products are really mascara in a spray bottle.
  • Chris Roloff performs two hymns and a Bathsheba improv 43:39–52:22
    Chris Roloff plays two old hymn texts to new tunes — 'Christ for the World We Sing' and 'God Is My Strong Salvation' — after accidentally starting the wrong song (a bit of Tracy Chapman's 'Fast Car'). When the second tune falls apart, the hosts improvise a comic Bathsheba song: 'I built a tower to look at the ladies on the roof… I've repented.'
  • Dear LFTP: the 45-year-old English teacher 52:24–59:16
    A listener letter is read: a 45-year-old English teacher of 19 years, with her husband newly on disability, finds it harder to be a good disciplinarian, fears shortchanging students, and has lost motivation. A host asks Dan for his take. The advice: do not give up on herself; refresh, take classes, talk to younger teachers. A long tangent follows about 'new math' and whether calculators will make hand math obsolete, with Troy pushing back over the 10-year timeline.
  • Dear LFTP: who checks the laundry pockets? 59:16–1:01:38
    A stay-at-home wife and mother of two asks who is responsible for items left in pockets — the person loading the hamper or the person doing the wash. The hosts' ruling: if it is garbage, clean out your own pants; if it is cash left in the pocket, it belongs to the person doing the wash. A host shares a story about backing his daughter over his wife on pocket-checking and getting in double trouble.
  • Show close 1:01:40–1:02:13
    A host closes the show as 'Daniel's dad,' giving the Monday 10-11 p.m. time slot, livefromthepath.org, and the two YouTube channels, and announcing that Double J will be in studio next week.

Bible references

  • 2 Samuel 12:13

    then David said to Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord.

  • Psalm 51:4

    against you only have I sinned

  • 1 Samuel 13:14

    man after God's own heart

  • 2 Samuel 11

    he sees Bathsheba and her bathing

  • Matthew 10:14

    Shake the dust off your feet, move to the next town

  • Matthew 7:6

    Pearls before swine

  • Matthew 5:22

    rucka, rucka

Key questions

  • Is God imaginary like leprechauns — is there no evidence for God's existence? (hard-question)
  • How can David be called a man after God's own heart after adultery and murder? (host-framed)
  • Why do English Bible translations sometimes leave words like raca untranslated? (host-framed)
  • A 45-year-old teacher has lost motivation and her husband is on disability — what can she do next? (dear-lftp)
  • Who is responsible for items left in laundry pockets — the person loading the hamper or the person doing the wash? (dear-lftp)

People

  • Guest: Chris Roloff
    musical slash intellectual guest
  • Troy
  • Chris Roloff
  • David
  • Bathsheba
  • Uriah
  • Nathan
  • Saul
  • Goliath
  • Solomon
  • Jesus
  • Abraham
  • Isaac
  • Jacob
  • Lee Strobel
  • Maury Povich
  • Jerry Springer
  • Zac Efron
  • Gomez
  • Ronald McDonald
  • Tracy Chapman
  • Norm
  • Chris
  • Mac
  • Phyllis
  • Joey
  • Double J

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, you are live from the Path. And you're listening to Live from the Path. Coming to you from the Pathway Studios here in Johnston Proper. It's good to see you here today. Actually, I can't see you. You're probably not even watching currently. That's kind of creepy. Yeah. I see what you're doing. You can see me, but I can't see you. I never thought of it that way. What a bunch of creepers we got watching this show. What?

I was just talking about people being creepers. That's how you get the fan base. That's true. That's how it plays on the net. Yeah. That's how you get popular on the net, creepers. Yeah. You got to call people out on who they are and what they're about. And then they're like, man, he knows me. Yeah. And then they'll listen religiously. That's because they're afraid of what else you might know. Yeah.

He knows that I have that flamingo shower curtain. Yeah. You only tell them 10%. Hey, what's a manly shower curtain? Like if a single dude, what kind of curtain does he buy? I've seen it. I've seen it. Is it just a cheap one or does he go for like a manly style? No, it's manly. I've seen it. It's got moose. What's the plural of mooses? Multiple moose.

Moose? Moose? Moose. Is it a pack of moose? It's got mooses. Hey, man. It's got mooses. It's not a magic microphone. Get your face in it. All right. Fine. It's moose. It's moose.

It's got moose on it and trees. And that's what men have. Is it like the comic moose? No, no. It's like outline? It makes you feel like you're in a log cabin. Like a real moose? Like a hairy moose? Well, no, no. It's like a silhouette of a moose. That's the word I was looking for. Those big words kind of have trouble with them. Silhouette of multiple moose.

I don't do silhouette. And multiple. All right. That's enough, fellas. Trees. Moose. Okay. All right. Anyway, thanks for joining us here on Life with That Night. Here's what we've got going on. Chris Roloff's in studio. He's going to be hanging out. He's our favorite guest.

He's going to be playing some tunes. Yeah. Not my favorite one, though. I love who is on the Lord's side, but it's just not going to happen today. Yeah, you remember that one, don't you? Oh, I was just saying I'm on the Lord's side. He sounds like Gomez. He does sound like Gomez. Did you check it out? I have been becoming a fan of Gomez because of that. He's the best because he sounds like me. I really like this Gomez guy. That's why I like Zac Efron.

Me and him look the same. It's the same. There's also a guy named Gomez who keeps opening up tire shops in the Des Moines area. There used to be a single Gomez tire, and now there's like – when he buys a building, he buys ramshackle buildings that other people can't keep open, and it just spray paints his name Gomez on it. And then number two or number three, number four. I love it. I love his business model because he stays open just simply opening up Gomez number four tire shops. Are you introducing a new sponsor? Boy, I wish. Yeah, but whatever.

He'd probably come by and spray paint the building, and we'd have no problems. I own this building. Heck yeah. You know – Come as .5. Let's just do this. Let's just assume that he would sponsor the thing and then send them a bill. You think somebody would pay it, right? If you said a massive corporation just to bill for philanthropy – I get bills all the time. They would just pay it. It looks like a phone bill, but it's really not – Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I wonder how many people just – Okay. Yeah, yeah. Especially the businesses if they look like a phone bill or something like that. Church gets them. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Live from the past. This is for your ad that we haven't done. Seems like low-level fraud, but yeah, I was going to say.

Doesn't seem right. Brought to you by Lady Speed Stick. Who knew? We could just say that we have uncles in Zimbabwe who wants to give them large sums of money. Also a lie, Dan. Also a lie. We're attempting to not lie in our ad. Hey, we're all descendants of my father, Adam. And my brother's in bad shape. Hey, my brother. He needs help. It's wrong to approach somebody on the street and say, listen, man, as a family member, you're in a rough spot.

You're not above rebukes. Anyway, so here's what's going on in the show tonight. First of all, we're continuing to walk through our proofs from goddessimaginary.com, his proofs. We're on proof number 17. He wants us to think about leprechauns. Oh, I'm going to get to be on this show. I was excited when you promoted this. I was like, let's think about leprechauns. That doesn't make any sense to me. Finally, they're talking on my level. Yeah, exactly. I usually think about leprechauns on a Tuesday. Me and Zac Efron talk about it all the time.

Lucky Charles Day. So anyway, we'll see what he has. I'm assuming he says Jesus is a leprechaun. So we'll walk through. We'll see where he's at. See if it's a proof that God is imaginary or that Jesus is a leprechaun. So we'll hit that. We're going to do some advice on dear life and the path. People need help. Joey. All right. Mike, people need some help. Yeah, here's the deal.

You know, the economy's tough. The politicians, they get on the TV and they just say whatever they want. Blatant lies. Either way, you know, they'll say, you know, we cut the deficit by $50 trillion. And the next guy will say, no, you didn't. You looked at the wrong time period. It's only been like $2. And then you go, who can I trust here? Someone's lying to me. So I'll just write dear life and the path and see if they can straighten this thing out. So I've pulled a politician before and I recognize that I've done it. And here were the circumstances under which I did it. I was applying to buy a house, right?

And they ask you how much money you have in the bank. And I waited to fill out the application until the first of the month. Because if I answered on the 28th, the answer is negative $27. If I answer on the 2nd, there's like a grand plus. And that's a politician figure, right? Because that's a guy that goes, you know, if you only look at it from this time period, we got big money. That's right. You guys manage your money? That's what kills me. We refinanced our house recently and they want bank statements, right? You know what I'm like, you know, we're just tailing off towards the, you know, halfway through the year when my tax return has like sustained us in a normal living wage for a while. You know, and then, and so when they wanted, like, they were like, we want the last three months worth of bank statements. I'm like, no problem, you know, here you go.

Well, then the refinance took like another month. And so just before it closed, they're like, we're going to need another bank statement. I'm like, dang. Kibbles and bits, man. I didn't see that coming. They're going to tell that I really like come and go and wonder about me. You know, what does this guy do at come and go all the time? You know? So they passed it anyway. I love those taquitos, man. They get me every time. They give money to anybody. You know what I'm saying?

They like, they tell you this about their predatory lending and they've put a bunch of regulations in. But I don't qualify and they gave me one. So I was pretty excited. I call it the Lord's blessing. Or a clerical error. Yeah. Or an accounting problem. Either way. All right. All right. So that's what we've got coming up on the show. We've got a roll off, leprechauns, advice. And we're going to talk a little bit about David.

Troy had a rough run in with David this week. We're going to, we're just going to talk about that. We're going to talk about that preacher, man. On the, at the DNC. All right. All right. Fine. It's got legs. Okay. All right. All right. Also, you know, there's a study out that talks about how often churchgoers do not read the Bible. And so we might hit on that if, if time allows.

So that's our, that's our outline from the show. Is that going to work for you, Dan? Yes. Okay, good. I'm glad. I like to pass my stuff through you. You look like a wise man. All right. Here we go. Let's, let's, let's rock it right out with the proof. Proof number 17. Uh, this is from God is imaginary.com and he says, think about leprechauns. Many believers will say it is impossible for you to prove that God, Allah, Ra, Vishnu,

whatever, does not exist. Uh, there's no way to prove that something does not exist. This is a silly argument for the following reason. Uh, imagine that we have a conversation one day and I say to you, I believe in Gerflenfachel. You cannot prove that Gerflenfachel does not exist. Therefore, it does exist. You can see that this is ridiculous. Just because I have invented something out of thin air does not mean that it's non-existence is suddenly unprovable. There has to be some evidence that the Gerflenfachel exists in order to assert its existence. Since there is not, it's quite easy to say that the Gerflenfachel is imaginary. Now, let's imagine that we have a conversation one day and I say to you, I believe in leprechauns. You cannot prove that leprechauns do not exist.

Therefore, they do exist. You actually have heard of leprechauns. There are lots of books, movies, and fairy tales dealing with leprechauns. People talk about leprechauns all the time. Leprechauns even have a popular brand of breakfast cereal. But that does not mean that leprechauns exist. There is no physical evidence for the existence of leprechauns, not a single bit. Therefore, it is obvious to any normal person that leprechauns are imaginary. If you think about it, you will realize that there is no difference between God and leprechauns. Lots of people talk about God as though he exists, but there is no actual evidence for God's existence. For example, God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth. All historical gods were imaginary, and we know it. None of Jesus' miracles left any physical evidence either.

I literally spit out of my mouth. And we know it. Got you on that one, didn't I? God has never spoken to modern man. For example, by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone. The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone. The Bible we have is provably incorrect and is obviously the work of primitive men rather than God. When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is answering prayer. In quotes, huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God. Last bullet is and so on, dot, dot, dot. Now he's got me. Oh, and ellipses. Oh, the ellipses got me this time.

No. There's absolutely no evidence that God exists. There's a tremendous amount of empirical evidence that God does not exist. Therefore, we can conclusively say that God is imaginary. That is the only thing that a rational person can say. Clearly. So he's got another angle there, but I think we have enough to go on here. Thoughts? Go ahead, Troy. Get him. Let's say you've invited him in for some reason, and he's sitting on your sofa, and he says, Troy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Tell me why I'm wrong.

Oh, man. I'm kind of just kind of soaking that in on what that all was. That was kind of an interesting argument. It was intense. Just because you can't prove something means that it doesn't exist. And there's no evidence for God's existence and all this different stuff. And I completely disagree with that. Because you can look at so many different things that is based upon science and all these different things that there's no way that it couldn't have happened from intelligent design. And scientists have so many arguments against the intelligent design and how things work. And I mean, I could go into a couple things just from specifics that I can go off of just when it comes to science, because I love that kind of stuff, and I study that kind of stuff,

and I study astronomy, and I study molecular biology when it comes to the existence of intelligent design. That's weird. And nobody knows astronomy like the dragon. I'm ensuing that your name is the dragon. I'm now the dragon. I would refer to you as that going forward. Well, I mean, yeah. There's things that couldn't have happened. Evolution can be completely disproved because of certain animals that exist in today's day and age that couldn't have existed because of evolution. It had to be immediate, and adaptation takes too long. So when you say God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth, you're

saying that that's not correct? I disagree entirely. Opposed to a dude. Yeah. A dude. You know what I'm saying? He's alive to write a website. Here's what he's done, right? He's basically said he's taken what he thinks God would do, right? Like he goes, if Jesus were real, he would wear a red t-shirt. I see nowhere in this text where it says that Christ wore a red t-shirt. So obviously this Jesus is false. You know what I'm saying?

Like he attributes things to Christ and then says those didn't happen. So obviously Jesus is true. Like if he didn't take over the television airwaves, obviously a deity, that's the first place they would go, right? Like obviously we're mesmerized by television. I could draw everyone's attention by showing up in the sky or converting my son to a face. But instead what I decided to do is take over the TV and hope people are watching a particular channel. Right. And then there's the one guy who's stuck in the middle of nowhere and his TV is broken down and Lord's like, I'm sorry, dude. Get with the times. This is the medium.

I broadcast through the airwaves now. You missed it. Internet radio. That's the future. That's the future. There it is. Internet radio. That's the way to fly. It was a pillar of fire for Pharaoh and it's YouTube for you. Yeah. Roloff, what do you think? I think leprechauns exist. I feel like we're going to have to get rid of Roloff.

Well, no, his whole premise is that he's assumed and decided that leprechauns don't exist. How can he prove that leprechauns don't exist? He says there's no evidence. There's tons of evidence and he told me all the evidence. People believe in them. Leprechauns have their own breakfast cereal. There's legends and stories about leprechauns. We have tons of evidence that show that leprechauns exist. I've seen them on TV. You've seen them on TV. They've shown up on TV. They've been on cereal boxes. So how do we know leprechauns do not exist?

I would argue that leprechauns do exist. That's a different way to go about it. Well, here's the problem, though, that he can't argue back with that. So he's stuck. He's told me that my position doesn't exist. Yeah, that's right. It's based on the premise that you automatically think leprechauns existing is ridiculous. Right. And so then he just tacks the Jesus story onto that and goes, well, I mean, you agreed one is ridiculous. Can't you agree both are ridiculous? But, Ben, he said most rational people would agree that leprechauns do not exist. No, that's true. All historical gods were imaginary, and we know it.

And we know it. And we're on the other side of that. I believe all historical gods were probably real, just not true gods. They were a spiritual being of some sorts, but not certainly the God in heaven. So what are your thoughts on that? I don't know. I've never heard it put that way before. Really? And I know nothing of it, so I don't think I should comment on it. Hold on, Troy. Now think about this. If you can get a group of people to turn their back on God and worship you, what spiritual presence does that sound like?

It doesn't sound like the God in heaven to me. Right. So it's the opposite. That's what I would say. It's a leprechaun. It's a leprechaun. It's a leprechaun. There you go. He even uses proofs, and his data is incorrect. I mean, as a matter of fact, Jesus did appear to people resurrected, and it was documented. We talked about that last week. He's bringing the same stuff out and re-read, you know. Yeah, we're only on 17.

Like, I wonder where he's going with the rest. He's got 50. Yeah. Well, maybe you guys will get a kick out of this. I thought about this. You know, guys like this and atheists a lot of times, it's just this idea of, hey, God, you need to do this for me, and if you don't, well, I'm not going to believe in you then. How do you like that? Like, that's kind of all he's got. Basically, God isn't doing what he wants, and so he's going to threaten, I'm not going to believe in you. That's his big thing with, he's always talking about prayer, like, we should all be able to pray this one thing, and if it happens, then God is God.

If it doesn't happen, the thing that I want, then God is not God. Right. Just make that guitar levitate. See? I mean, false god. Well, and exactly. We had a guy do that to Mac and me on the radio. No, he said, if God's real, then he should have him whisper in your ear what the numbers in my pocket are. That's just dumb. I mean, if really, would you then worship a God who just simply refers to a parlor trick? Do another trick. What else can I do for you?

Exactly. Let me do a dance. He's just looking over at Jesus going, is he buying it? Is he buying it? Please, please believe in me. I sure hope it's all. Please. And here's the sad part, is that God's up in heaven looking down and going, man, you need help. Like, I love you. You really need me. You really need me more than you think. You know, like, that's got to be really sad to see one of your own.

It's like having one-year-old kids look up at you and just be like, you know, prove to me that you're my father. Like, why what? What do you want me to do? You know, apart from everything else that I've done for you, raised you, gave you money, hugged you, read stories to you every night, and then you turn to be 20 and you're like, prove to me you're my dad. I'm like, what else can I do? You know, yeah, this line of thinking is like the Maury Povich or Jerry Springer of like, proofs, right? Like, make some kind of production about it. Show me some kind of proof. Do the paternity test.

Yeah. Reveal yourself in some way that is otherwise easily revealed in how the rest of our life is gone. But for some reason, you get it in your head that this guy's not real, and then you're like, well, I'm going to need the proof. Yeah. Put yourself on the Home Shopping Network. Whoa! Then the crowd goes crazy and then violence erupts. Yeah, do the show so that I can see the show, and then I will say whether I think it's okay or not. Yeah, this is it? Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like a… You know, and I read this. I got stuck in the comments in the Belief blog again. Uh-oh. Sorry, Phyllis. I get it. Now, it's weird that you brought that up, because the last time we talked about that was the exact last time that Roloff was in the studio. Was it really? Yeah. Interesting. Roloff, have you been reading the comments in the blogs?

I don't read the interweb. Man. Okay, so anyway, so the atheists are… There was an article on CNN, on the CNN Belief blog, where the atheists were upset that both parties, they feel like they've been snubbed. They feel like they've been snubbed out of the convention process. All six of them? Yeah. Because they claim… They were really happy because the Democratic platform had taken God out of a lot of their official stance, you know? And then they put it back in. You know, so the atheists…

The websites just went wild for like 24 hours. They were like a victory. And then they took it back out, and they go, oh, man. And they totally cow-tailed to the Christian religion. And we feel like we've been… Like they just couldn't hold their own, you know? And here's the most disappointing part, right? So the atheist is… The talk is exploding on the commentaries. And then here comes Johnny Christian in there. He's going to say something, you know, straighten them all out. And he goes, you know what I feel like? I don't feel like it's too much just to have God's name in these things.

You know? Because he's done so much for us. He just wants us to say his name during the day. That's all he really wants. I'm like, what? This is it? This is the guy that had to talk? You know what I'm saying? I couldn't get somebody in there that like… You know, Jesus is Lord. You know, he's not interested in you just verbalizing his name every once in a while. I'm like, man, we've got to do… Maybe I should really be in these belief block comments.

You know, I feel like I should police him. Yeah, like Jesus is sitting next. He's on the right hand of the Father going, Hey, Dad, do you think we're going to make the, you know, political document this year? I don't know, son. Things are looking to… I want to make sure we're on the platform. We're down to the footnotes. The landscape's looking a little rough this year. I don't know. It was very disappointing, I thought. Is this… Because the problem is like, the people who don't currently believe in a God,

like, that's the perspective they're getting. They're trying to fight the same irrational behavior with, like, the same irrational talkback. You know what I'm saying? The same person that banks on… As soon as they say, look, the Bible's not true, your personal experience is there's no way that's true, and there's no way that the science can prove that it wasn't evolutionary. What are you going to even talk to them about? You know what I'm saying? It might be shake the dust time. You know what I'm saying? Shake the dust off your feet, move to the next town, because that guy is not currently open to the Holy Spirit.

Don't throw your… What is it? What's the line? Don't throw it before swine. Pearls before swine, right? Like, why? You know, I mean, God says, look, find the people that are interested in me and talk to them. You know, you sitting there battling it out until you're blue in the face does them… It gives them nothing but ammo, and then it really just wastes your time. It's demanding that God show up in a party platform that otherwise is not God-based. And frankly, I'll throw that on both sides. It's the same as, like, vandalizing your name on someone's bathroom and saying, well, they love me.

They said my name earlier today. Followed by some selective words. You know, it's a… You know, Jesus is not on the ticket. Either side, he's not on the ticket. Beyond that, you know, I don't think he's all that concerned whether he shows up in the book that's approved by the platform. The question is, it's like, are you enacting things? Does your life look like someone who loves Jesus or does it not? Like, that is the question. We spit… Oh, man, we were fighting people over irrelevant inches. Just stupid, irrelevant…

Oh, hey, I really… We got that back in the book. Because you were irritating enough to get it in there? Because it didn't look right. Because votes were going to be lost or it offended X amount of people. And they did the study. They thought, okay, if we do this, we're going to lose this amount. If we do this, we're going to lose this amount. Whichever one costs us more. And, you know, the question is, is, like, who on the side of this thing looks at it and goes, hey, hey, we won that one. Heck yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, what a shallow victory. If you want to stand on something, stand on someone, something where, like, you've been able to talk to someone about Jesus. You saw a life change. Like, you saw some inroads in someone who believed something that was false. Right. Right? Not, hey, look, we fought really hard. We got a bunch of signs. And we got a couple of SUVs. And we showed up at this joint. And now they wrote God back in that book. And hallelujah. Yeah.

Well, I mean, you know, one of the other articles I actually happened to catch today was the increased… This is kind of… This will be off topic a little bit. But the increased use of, like, the illegal sex trade during these conventions. Right? Like, and so both parties are holding giant conventions. And both of those cities saw an increase in, like, a giant uptake of, like, sex industry workers flying in to help facilitate the convention. And you're fighting for God's name back into the platform? Are you kidding me? You're a terrible example. A terrible example. They had a couple organizations that were talking about it. And it was just…

It had been the most disgusting 30 seconds that I've ever read. You know, the stuff that they're running into. And, like, these are the leaders of our country. And maybe they're not the politicians themselves. But, like, the champions of the party, the guys who are attending the conference, constituents or not, like, if they're bringing enough people to help facilitate an illegal sex trade, that's disgusting. Like, that's seriously disgusting. And we're fighting to make sure that they put God back on that piece of paper? I mean, I think we're missing the point. You know what I'm saying? And especially as Christ followers and especially the people who are supposed to be listening to Christ's example, I think we're missing the point. I really think we are. There's a lot better things that we can do with our time, mostly introducing people to Christ that they don't even know. They just want it on the ticket because it looks good and it can grab old granny who only listens to one speech a year and is willing to vote with whoever says God more.

It's sad. It's just sad. So what's our final response to God is imaginary, man? I think God's still real, as far as I know. He hasn't convinced me a bit. No. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I think he's getting a little lazy. I mean, he's 17 in, he's getting a little lazy. He's basically rehashing the same arguments he had. And bullet points that are like, like the all historical gods were imaginary and we know it. Like, that's obviously not a proof of anything. It's just like everybody knows.

Well, but that kind of goes back to the point of maybe that I was failing to make with the leprechaun thing. The only reason why we know anything that we know is because it was passed on. You know, this is history. This is information that was passed on to us. How do we know that God's real? When we look, there's a church and there's been a church for 2,000 years. There's an old joke, and I don't know who told it, but why am I a Christian? Why do I follow the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Well, because there's no Hittites in New York. And that's a strange joke. That's kind of funny. But the concept there is God is faithful to his people. He's faithful to the church of Jesus Christ, and he's faithful to the Jews.

He always has been faithful in the nation of Israel. And that's an evidence and a proof of God. And we know that God exists because of the historical tradition that's been passed on, you know. And it hasn't been perfect, and it's been corrupt at times and all that, but it's been passed on. So the same idea, how do we know the leprechauns do exist or they don't exist, is because someone's told you that. You know, I go back to my daughter, who's in Texas right now. She flew on to Texas. But we were at McDonald's, and we got one of those juice boxes. And it's a Minute Maid juice box, and there's Ronald McDonald on there. And I told my daughter, I said, hey, Kate, what's on that juice box? And she goes, oh, that's just a clown, Daddy. And I said, well, do you know that clown has a name?

And she goes, are you teasing? I said, no, it really has a name. That clown's name is Ronald. She goes, how did you know that? And I said, how did I know that? And the reality is I only know that because someone else told me that that clown's name is Ronald. So the reason I know and believe the things I believe is because someone else told me that that's true. And this guy in this article is saying, you know, we know that the Greek, you know, Thor isn't a real god. Why do we know that? We know that's true because someone told him that that's not true. And he's backing it up with the same science. He's getting the science information the same way, right? It's not like he personally showed up, split three atoms, and decided that carbon-14 is the new way to date things with radiometric testing.

You know what I'm saying? Someone told him that, you know? Exactly. And so he's basically saying his source is better than our source. I suppose we're saying the same thing. But actually, we can back it up with one extra point that I don't know that he can, is that you can't have a personal, loving relationship with science. You know what I'm saying? And I can attest to that Christ is in heaven and that my sins are forgiven, not only because of the faith that's been passed on to me and the evidence that I can find in the Bible, but there's a God talking back to me. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm praying to something, and I have a peace that people who don't know Christ don't have. And so I suppose you could probably say, look, you're just making that up, and maybe I just feel ultra comfortable in a God that doesn't exist, but I really doubt that. I can't make myself do just about anything. I can't convince myself to have a peaceful day if I wanted to.

I can't stop myself from sinning still, you know what I'm saying, which is why Christ died for me, you know? And so I feel like if you're going to look at it from a completely logic-based standpoint, I think there's enough evidence. If you're looking to prove the Bible, you can do it. And if you're looking to disprove – I mean, that Lee Strobel thing is a perfect example, right? But if you're looking to prove that the Bible is accurate and that God's had his mark in history, I think you can do that. But I think the bowl over is when you hear – especially when you hear a personal testimony from somebody who has really let God take his rightful place and people who are submitting to the gospel and finding what God's doing and becoming involved with that, those are people that are just – they'll rock your world just by listening to them. Just by listening to them talk, you'll be like, man, I wish I had that. And really that is Christ. That's what – that's all you're missing. You're missing the submission to letting God, you know, use you as he sees fit. And that's when you get the peace that that person is describing.

All right. He's going to live to tell another day, though. God's real. Yeah. Here we go. Proof – so just heads up for next week. We're on proof number 18. Ooh, sweet. Imagine heaven. And it's – we get a – holy cats, this thing is huge. You're going to have to truncate it. Oh, man. It's a hypothesized conversation between Norm and a guy named Chris.

Ah, well. Norm from Cheers? You know, it just doesn't say. A typical – it's supposed to represent a typical conversation about heaven. Oh, I'm – hold on. Which one's the snooty version of himself? The guy who throws in atheistic type language. Okay, hold on. Check this out. I'm going to give you the first three lines so you can tell where this is going. Chris, Jesus transcends death and promises eternal life to all who believe in him. Lift up your heart to the Lord Jesus Christ, and he will give you eternal life. Norm, how will he do that?

Chris, have you ever read the book called Left Behind? Left Behind. There you go. That's what's coming. Okay, this is going to be solid. All right, so next, proof number 18, we're talking about Imagine Heaven, God 17, atheistic man, needs Jesus. Still. He's 17 weeks running. He does. All right. You're listening to Live from the Path. Hey, you can catch us during the week at livefromthepath.org. If you want to catch archives of the full show, go to youtube.com backslashthepathonline

or hit our other YouTube channel, which contains select scenes from our shows. Not necessarily the best of the best. You have two YouTube channels? We do. Oh, this is distracting. We do that. That's one too many. The one. When you're really good, you can't put them all in one. No, no. Oh, yeah. We can't be scrunched into one. One cannot contain us.

That is correct. The second one. Much like the Trinity. Ah, just something to think about. Our YouTube representation is much like the Holy Trinity. Here's how it goes. Not exactly like it, but in some aspects. And we are not imaginary, therefore God is not imaginary. Ding! More so because I just don't understand it. I just can't make sense of it. But the Clips channel, if you just want to get bits and pieces, say, I can't take the whole show, fellas.

It's like a meatloaf. You know, I just don't serve you the whole thing. I'll just take a little at a time. And so you want to check that out, you can go to youtube.com backslash life in the path. That's going to be the Clips channel. So, Mike, I'll tell you what. Let's hit this David thing while Roloff gets prepared to bust out a tune. Oh, sure. All right. So, Troy, hit me with it. All right. So, I was reading in 2 Samuel this week. Read 1 Samuel last week.

And, obviously, getting a little bit about David here. Man after God's own heart. All this good stuff. He comes as a shepherd boy. He becomes the Lord's anointed after Saul falls out of favor of the Lord. And, interesting enough, so I'm reading all about that. I'm reading everything about David and his triumphs over different armies and all of his campaigns for Saul and all this different stuff. And I'm thinking that David is this really cool dude. Like, awesome guy. God quoted saying, man after my own heart. That's crazy. That's awesome.

That's what we want to be. And then, I start reading in 2 Samuel where he hits a little bit of a, a lot bit of a divot, we could say, where he's doing his thing, bathing, or walking on the roof of the castle or whatever, the palace. And he's looking out and he sees, I cannot remember the name specifically. Bathsheba. Bathsheba. And her bathing. And he stares and tries to figure out who she is and then has her called to his palace and lies with her and gets her pregnant. And he lies with her. That's what it says. Nicely put.

And you don't mean fibbing either. I don't mean fibbing. Let's tell a story. One that's not exactly true. The life in the path YouTube is like the Trinity. Spinning around. So, okay. So, I'm, and then it sends, I can't, now I can't remember the husband's name. Someone who's much more. Like Uriah or something? Uriah, yes. Uriah, absolutely. Yeah.

And sends him to the front of the, or brings him back and tries to get him to lie with his wife because, not, she's pregnant with little David. Not fibbing. Yeah. She's pregnant with little David, which is Solomon, I believe. Um, but maybe, I might be wrong with that, but whatever. It is Solomon. Okay. So, yeah, exactly. So that happens. Then he, he brings back Uriah, brings him back into the, uh, city and tries to get him to lie with his wife so that he gets her pregnant so that David doesn't have to worry about not taking the fall for that, all this different stuff.

And when Uriah refuses to do so because his commanders and his, his fellow men-at-arms are, are sleeping in tents and, and the Lord is sleeping in a tent, how can he lie in the bed with his wife in his home? Right. And so, when David fails at getting him to sleep with his wife, sends him word to the commanders, tells them to put Uriah at the front of the line, and then when they're at the very front of the line, close to the gate, withdraw from Uriah so that he's murdered in cold blood and that no, David is the worst criminal mastermind ever. And that no. Okay, we're all going to stand up here and then everybody back up but Uriah. Exactly. Exactly. Nobody tell Uriah that we're backing up and that way he gets killed and shot with arrows

from, from the city gates. How does Uriah not look around and go, hey man, what's, what's going on? Wait a minute. Why is everyone retreating? Why am I still advancing? And he goes, I'm on the Lord's side. Who's with me? I was, I was, I was appalled. Cowards, all of you. I was, I was absolutely appalled because I, I, I'm just now reading this and I, you know, my whole entire life not having read the story of David and, and understood it entirely going from shepherd boy, defeating Goliath, running the campaigns for Saul, becoming the Lord's anointed, running all of Israel and Judah for like 48 years and then does this with

Bathsheba and kills Uriah. That usually doesn't make the tip sheet. Right, exactly. It's just like, hmm. And he's still called a man after God's own heart. I was confused and I don't know what's going on. Now, now, in the, in defense of the Sunday schools that have taught the David lessons, there was a scandalous group of Bathsheba flannel graphs that was going around that had to be revoked. The editor cut it. It had to be taken back and the story was naked. The story can't be told. Yeah.

So, so a little backstory on that story actually. So like the ladies of that time used to take their, take their water up to the roof and let it, let the sun sit on it. And that's why she was bathing on the roof is because at the, at night they could take a hot bath. Right. So they took the water up to the roof and then it sat there all day and got warm. And then at nighttime, the ladies would go up to the roof and bathe. So anybody that builds a tall house is a creeper. So, so this walks off. So guys like, Hey man, I want to, if he, if he, if he tries to put out for a 50 foot tall house, like, you know, he's creepy. I need a really tall one.

I'm going to walk out my palace. So, so think about that. So David knows that, right? So we usually, when I read the story, I'm like, he just happened to see a naked lady when he was perusing his roof. Oopsie. Okay. Everybody knows that ladies are bathing at nighttime because the roof is where you keep the hot water. Right. So David is not innocent in his accidental viewing of Bathsheba. Right. Like I go to that porn site, you know, the one that's got a lot of X's at the front of

it. Right. And I accidentally see naked women. I had no idea they did this here. No clue. How did that happen? How did it naked women.com? There'd be naked women. This is filthy. And this is filthy too. And this is also dirty. Oh, this is disgusting. I can't believe this is on here.

This needs to be taken away. There's only 26 letters in the alphabet. How did this happen to me? My luck. So anyway, so and to further boost that along. So I guess what when I used to read that story, like I caught on to what David was doing. I'm like, man, he's just he's fallen. And it's just it's just snowballing after that. But these were premeditated falls. Right. Because the king goes to battle. And so his troops are out battling. He didn't go.

He did not go. If he was where he was supposed to be, that Bathsheba thing wouldn't have happened. Instead, he stayed home. And then he was peeping on ladies from top of the palace, found the lady, got her impregnant, tried to set up some kind of some kind of weird swap where the kid would come out looking like King David and no one would know the wiser. And then killed the guy because he refused to participate because he was being honorable. Right. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Continue. That's just a little backstory. I found it.

Just a correction. I have to say this. It was not Solomon. It was the first child dies. Oh, that's right. Solomon comes later. OK. From Bathsheba. But not. Well, I was close. No, but that's a common. I think that's proof that God is imaginary. The first child never dies.

Because I messed up. OK, sorry. OK. I just had to say that. So Bathsheba wasn't the only one out bathing then. Probably not. I would assume not. She must have been the best looking one. Or the one closest to the palace. He's lazy. He didn't even go to battle. Either way. Either way.

So the question on the table is that if God, if it says in the Bible that David is after God's own heart, man after God's own heart, right? And he's done all these things. How does that fly? Like, how does that match up? How does God's word back up God's word on this thing? Daniel. Me. Well, I just put my hand in front of the camera. Let me think about this. Here's the thing. No, no, please. Hi.

I'm Chris Roloff, and here's the deal. Sorry. Right. Put it in my voice. Real good one. I mean, you look at all of us. Who has lived a perfect life? I mean, not a one of us. Any one of us. Now, I realize in our reference, it's after Christ, and there's grace, and there's the forgiveness of Jesus and the cross and everything. But David's just a guy. He, as a whole, lived his life a man after God's own heart. He had his flaws.

He was imperfect. You know, the only perfect guy in the Bible is Jesus. Right. So we shouldn't expect David to be like this perfect guy. Matter of fact, Nathan, the prophet, comes in and really lays it on him after this happens. And David's reaction isn't, oh, yeah, I'm taking you down, too. His reaction was, holy crap, you're right. Yeah. I've sinned. Yeah, it's the psalm that he wrote after that. It says, against you only have I sinned. And I think that's probably where that line comes in. It was a repentance.

Right. He looked at what he did, and he turned around. Yeah, this wasn't his lifestyle. It wasn't like, no, let's find another one. Right. Right. And so. I like the movement. More ladies on the roof. We need to build another tower. I got totally busted on that last one. Yeah, after Nathan gets done rebuking David in 2 Samuel 12, verse 13, it says, then David said to Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord.

So he immediately. And I wasn't trying to say, you know, I'm astonished that David wasn't perfect in any way, shape, or form. That's a biggie. Right, absolutely. I mean, we understand that. Murder? Everyone. Rape? Right, exactly. Those are some big ones in there. That's never going to make the platform. And I understand that. I wasn't trying to say, oh, I thought David was this perfect guy.

It just kind of threw me off because I'd never understood that portion of it. And I understand that, you know, what I'd heard of David was the David that is the man after God's own heart. Right. And it just kind of threw me for a little boomerang effect where I was like, wait a minute. I've never even heard this about David. That is messed up. Do you think that David is having curly hair? For some reason, I don't. I see long, luscious, curly hair. Oh, well, you've got to say luscious. No, I didn't. I went over the top. I, at one point in time, a man that has had curly hair and is luscious.

Now, here's, you know, if you would have said flowing locks, that's just a matter of physics. Either they're flowing or they're not. But when you talk about luscious, that implies like you've ran your fingers through them or something. I ran my fingers through King David's hair. Yeah, that's your, it's not an observation, it's your opinion of it. Like, you think it is luscious. One of his sons had luscious thick hair that got caught in a tree. Yeah. But here, that's part of the, being. Okay, the Bible does not say luscious, Dan. Oh, okay. He could have, absolutely has stringy, grody hair. That's what I, it got caught in twigs.

How fine could it be? You know what I'm saying? Part of being a man after God's own heart, though, back to the topic, is that as foul as we can be as human beings, as much as we can fall off a cliff, that if we truly, truly repent, that David was a man after God's own heart because he repented and he truly grieved the fact he did it. He truly was sorry. I mean, it broke his heart. And that's the difference between someone who's just rebelliously sinning, doing as they please, and going from one woman to the next, or whatever the sin is, you know. Always, when people are sinning, they're moving around. They're joyfully bopping around town. I'm assuming that's how you do it. I don't know. What you doing, Ben? Doing the sin today. Going from one to another.

Can't just sin once, you know. I'm just saying, and who hasn't sinned? Who hasn't fallen? Who hasn't disappointed themselves, let alone God? And I think how we approach God, then, is the telling, you know, are we people after God's own heart? Or are we just, you know, living rebelliously? Yeah. All right. Yeah, Troy, come on. Come on. Come on. All right. Sin no more.

But where will I go? Thank you. Okay, thank you for breaking that down. To whom shall we go? All right. I'll go door to door. Grace may abound. All right. Find me a brood of ice. Yeah. Oop, there's one. Just to Mike's point in the NIV, it says nothing but luscious hair. Rucka, rucka, rucka.

I looked that up, too. It's the new Jimmy John. Rucka, rucka, rucka. His head gets caught in the oak tree. That's why I stopped using the NIV. They don't know luscious hair when they see it. I need the message. Okay, this is a quick, quick side question. You guys might know this, right? But, like, the Bible's translated in English, right? But, like, why does every once in a while do they break back to the original? Like, when Jesus talks, most of the time they put it in English for me, right? But then they'll go to rucka, rucka, and what is it?

Opsalum. Iluwai. Oksane. Yeah. Iluwai. You know, why do they go back to the original just, like, in those certain points? Is it just not translated at all? Well, like, on the cross, that's kind of dramatic, isn't it? I'm being played for effect. Yeah, I feel like you can't take dramatic license with the Lord's Word. Or there are times they do that because the people working on the translation can't agree how to translate the word. So they'll just transliterate it. Baptism.

It could be this. Angel. I shouldn't have asked. I'm sorry, Dan. They just use the Greek? I think that's a fair answer. Yeah, there was fighting in the room, and they thought, forget it. That's honestly it. That's honestly it. Rucka, let it stay. No one knows what it means. We don't either. Sanhedrin made it through.

It either means punch them in the face with a fork or stub their toe. Skin the cat. It can't be skin the cat. It can't. Where did you get those nine tails? That's not funny. That's Troy. That's not funny. Just because I said it, we have to laugh. That reveals a terrible thing about your character. You are listening live from the path on live from the path. This is nowhere. Dot org.

Attempt to get this train back on the rails. We're inviting a musical slash intellectual guest, Chris Roloff. Hey, now Roloff kind of has luscious locks. I would agree. Do you condition or do you shampoo and condition at once? What do you say, Dan? That was luscious. I shampoo. Do you use pert? Oh, sorry. I shampoo. You're a professional radio man, Roloff. Well, you know, in nice radio studios, the mics pick up from a distance.

Yeah, we don't have one of those. So, anyway, I shampoo and conditioner separately. I tried that one. Out it again. I got regrow hair shampoo from somebody. And it tingles. It tingles funny. I don't know if it works or not. Hey, it's supposed to do that. The commercial says it's supposed to. The guy goes, it tingles. Hey, do you know that spray-on hair that they use is actually mascara in a bottle? No doubt.

Yeah, I talked to the lady. She says that spray-on hair stuff that they spray on and comb, it's actually just mascara. It's except in a spray bottle. So, you could make your own hair, your hair grow stuff out of a spray bottle if you want at home by taking your lady's mascara and putting some compressed air in there. And wait, and then it just washes out? Yeah. Insta hair. People hair spraying it. I think that's funny. That they put mascara on their face and they comb it and then hairspray it. It's going to keep them from moving. It's a paste.

You know what I mean? It's not going anywhere. That explains the running. Like the drip. You ever seen the drip? Oh, yeah. That explains the drip. I always wondered why, you know, if someone gets wet and their hair sticks right up. Well, what did you think was actual hair in a bottle? No, I didn't. Like those monkeys? How do they do that? It activates the molecules.

Let's look at water monkeys. I don't have that problem, Mike, so I don't think about it. I have. I have what they call David hair. I was going to say, we see why one man is not wearing a hat and one man is wearing a hat. I need the tingly. Roloff, you're going to play a tune for us, though. Yeah, what do you got? Um, this is an, uh, it is another hymn redone. So these are, this is old text, uh, to a new tune. Uh, I'm going to go on a limb here and I'm going to call for two in a row. Okay. Okay.

This is Chris Roloff. You're listening to Life in the Path. Oh, wait. Hey, I started the wrong song. Never mind. So do that one again. That was, I changed the song. I thought, hold on a second. I thought it was going to be, uh. Fast Car by Tracy Chapman. Fast Car by Tracy Chapman. Yeah, I have a little bit of Fast Car. Do you know that one?

I don't. I should. I will learn it. What? No, I can't, I can't think of any biblical orientation. We can fly away. You've got to make a decision. Turn it back over and roll. Okay, make it happen. Leave tonight, I'll live and die this way. Now I forgot how the song goes. All right, hang on. One minute.

Christ for the world we sing. The world to Christ we bring. With a loving zeal. For an end. The faint. The sin sick. The sorrow. Waste up. From dark. With us the work to share. With us reproach to dare. Can I play the drum with you? Sure.

I'm going to rock this drum over here. You ready? What's the next one called? God is my strong salvation. Now hold on, did you do that pause in there for effect? What do you want? In the last song? Yeah. No, the last song was kind of a bit of a train wreck. Hey! I really liked it. I thought it was in there for effect on purpose. I'm like, this is the coolest thing ever.

It's like an… Well, I've got it on tape, so maybe we can add it in the studio version. Okay, good. We're going to put it in there. That'd be a good place to say. Bathsheba. Bathsheba. Build me another tower. You're going to play the percussion on this? I'm hitting the drum. Okay. Alright, hit the drum. Alright, okay.

What's this one called? This is another hymn text put to new music. This is called God is My Strong Salvation. Okay, excellent. You're listening to Chris Wolof. God is my strong salvation on Live from the Path. This is terrible. Can we do it again? Yeah. It's got the text over here. Ready? I'm ready. One.

Jimmy. Go something. You've got to give it to the Jimmy. God is my strong… Well, that's a train wreck. I was grooving too much. I need to know the words better, don't I? Are we going to freeform it? Yeah, ready? Just keep going. Okay. Now we need new lyrics. Who's going to sing the new lyrics?

Yeah, Mike's got it. Ready? One. Bathsheba. One, two. Bathsheba. Oh. I built a tower to look at the ladies on the roof. That's a mistake, but I've repented. Now things are better. They're much better. I bought some hair in a can, but it really was mascara and it fell off when I ran. It's the best show we've heard of.

Delicious. We're going to call it the best show ever. That was awesome. Best show ever. That was awesome. You lose the life in the path. Here's the deal. Yeah. People need help, Mike. They do. At my iPod, I don't. All right. Dear life in the path, I have taught English at the junior and senior high school level

for 19 years. As I grow older, I find it more and more difficult to be a good disciplinarian, and I'm afraid that I'm shortchanging my students. I no longer have the motivation to be a good teacher. I would go back to school to do something else, even though I'm 45, but my husband has recently been placed on disability. Any suggestions for how the old gray teacher can evolve into something else? I have tried deployment agencies in the area where I live, but they have not been much help. The worst teacher in Louisiana. Wow. Ooh. Boy, I'd almost like her to stay, actually, based on her humble attitude.

Yeah. I think I appreciate that she even cares, you know. What are your thoughts, Dan? You're old. Does that mean I'm excluded? I didn't see that coming. Go ahead, Dan. Thank you very much. So tell me, okay, so she just feels outdated and is not relating, basically. Yeah, she says it's fine. It's difficult to be a good disciplinarian, and she thinks she's shortchanging her students. I think the school ties her hands. She can't be a good disciplinarian.

Maybe she needs to take some extra classes and just kind of refresh and get her. Maybe she needs a break, even. You know, sometimes the best thing… What? That's a lot of celebration going on over there. We're friends, Dan. I know you don't know what that looks like. I've read books. How to win friends and influence people. That's right. How to make friends for dummies. She just needs to revitalize herself a little bit. Reinvent herself.

Take some classes. Do something different. Get out and get out. How old of a gal was she? 45. That's not old. No. The gray. Yeah, she's over… I think she's putting herself in the coffin a little too early. Worst teacher in Louisiana. She refers to herself as the old gray teacher. She's like 45 years old.

20 in life to live. Some people get gray when they're like 20. Some people live up into the 50s now. That's true. I did hear that happening. There's a guy in Texas or whatever had that happen to him. It's them vitamins, I tell you. It's them vitamins, living forever. It's got to be artificial vitamins. You just need a vitamin B12 and some witch hazel. I'll be alive for years. Made by the laboratory, not Jesus. Definitely.

Jesus doesn't make anything with the word witch in it. All right. All right. So I think broadly we're just saying don't give up on yourself. Yeah. Find something to revitalize. Yeah. Ask some of the younger teachers. If you think that you're doing something different because you've been in it so long and you've been doing it for so long. And maybe you should ask some of the people who have recently gone through schooling and gotten some of the new stuff from brand new teachings in college. It may have been 20 years since she's been in college. There may be some of her teachers in the area who have been in college for years. I feel like that's going to fail.

That's the worst. Not necessarily. Teachers work together all the time. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to work together. You know what? There's nothing more that I'd like to hear less of than the newfangled way they've come to regurgitate the same crap to me in a more politically efficient manner. That's terrible. Have you seen the new math? This is like the third generation new math. It is impossible to know. Here's what I guarantee. In 10 years, when my kid goes through public school, they're just going to get my calculator and call it a day. They're not even going to know how to do anything.

I don't know. I thought about that. I thought about just handing the calculator over and saying, look, man, I mean, why pretend? The calculator could do it for you. How else you know whether there's a price there at Walmart? The computer will tell you. Yeah, it does it at the checkout. Yeah, but what if it doesn't? The smiley face. This guy turns frowny. I was in high school like three years ago. That's not how I was taught math. He said that's what would happen.

That's what's going to happen. Unless you're a prognosticator of the future. Just agree that you're not. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm not going to pretend like I am because I'm not quite sure. I honestly don't see it going into the process like what you're saying. I can understand. I mean, there's plenty of schools still going on that aren't just handing people calculators. I said it's going to be 10 years from now, Troy. You disagree with me 10 years from now? What are you basing your timeline on? Why are you saying in 10 years it's only going to be a calculator? Yeah, why not 11 years or 9? Get them, Troy.

Why is it going to happen in the first place? What's going to be so different then? Because it starts to lose its point after a while. I guarantee you that 85% of the people that I work with do not do math at all in their head. They do everything on the calculator. And because, frankly, it's just going to be that easy. Most of the modern workforce is sitting in front of the computer most of the day. So the odds of you having to calculate anything by hand is extremely low. And that's based on schooling. Well, but basically the school is going to look at it and go, look, there's no reason to teach higher math functions anymore because either you're in that profession and most of it is done on a computer anyway or you're not in that profession and you don't need it. I disagree. I don't think that the main reason – you know, obviously you have to have math skills for certain things. Look, just because you nerd out on math doesn't mean that everyone is going to do it.

What I'm saying is I think that teachers – you know, most teachers don't teach history thinking that their students are going to go and use their history. Most people don't teach math thinking that their students are going to go and use trigonometry their entire life. It's the fact that it's exercising your brain. It's learning to solve problems on your own. And maybe you can take what you learned to solve problems in your calculus class and maybe you can use that in a different aspect of your life because you have problems solved because of it. That's a good point because I was at work just yesterday and someone asked me – their grandma was coming in on a train from Chicago. If my grandma was leaving a train from Chicago for an 87 miles per hour. And they wanted to know when to leave. And I said, you know what? I got this. Let me pull out – What you need is a line graph. I know there's a schedule online.

I'm going to work this thing out. I'm staring at a parallelogram and I really need to know the area and by chance maybe the diameter of this circle. Is there any way you can help me out? I feel like my souffle is a rhombus. How do I cut it? Is this a triangle or not? I want 7.5 people to have the same pieces. No. Okay. So to go along with that fact, I took a class in high school that was called math for technicians. It had nothing to do with technicians. It was just using your head. And through having to use my head and not use a calculator, I didn't learn so much just about that's how I use math.

I learned problem solving through that. And I was able to get quickness with using my head where I don't need a calculator. I feel like problem solving can be found a lot of other places besides math. I think that you're just completely generalizing on everyone's just going to be using technology. I don't think that it's just because of that. Yeah, you're right. The internet's really flopped in the last 10 years. No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that maybe the whole reason why they're teaching math isn't because they expect their students to use calculus. Maybe it's they're trying to teach lessons that they can put forth in every bit of their life. That's true because I was at work just the other day and somebody's grandma was coming from a train from Chicago and their grandpa was leaving Los Angeles at 8.05. You might be right. I don't know.

It's heading that way. Agree to disagree. Here we go. Dear Life and Path, would you please settle a dispute in my family? I'm a stay-at-home wife and mother of two boys. I do everyone's dirty laundry. When someone leaves something in the pockets of clothes like wallets, papers, etc., who do you think should be responsible for removing said articles? The person placing the clothes in the hamper or the person doing the wash? My wife says doing the wash. If there's an extra three bones in my pocket when it hits the hamper, that is her territory and the money is hers. What if she doesn't want the money? She just wants you to be respectful and not leave crap in your pants. That's not what she…

Well, it depends. If there's a pin and 10 gun wrappers, then maybe she'd be upset. But if it's cash, I think that's the way it works. If it's garbage, it needs to be out of the pants. If it's money, it can stay until it gets to the hamper. If you're getting the garbage out, why not just get the cash? I don't know. I'm lazy both ways. Let me ask you this. Does it just come with the laundry duty? No. I think you should always check. Yeah, I think you should take your personal belongings and everything you've put in your pants out.

Just because someone could forget, but then you keep it. Yeah. If someone's negligent and they don't take it out, that's their fault. Especially if you have a receipt in your pocket from that time that you got on top of a tower. www.towerlady.com These are mistakes, you know? Roof watchers. Yeah, I think if it's pro, if it's cash, you know, I don't want to just leave it in there because your lady's doing laundry. You know what I'm saying? Why don't you leave some bucks in there? Give her a chance to go out and do something. Actually, so you could do something cute, like try to, like, I don't know, leave her a love note in there, but she could mistake it for another job. That's a mistake too.

Who is this, Becky? No. If you spell her name, if you put somebody else's name on there, yeah, that's a dead giveaway. I was taking more generalized notes. I actually got in trouble for this once. Not the note thing. Dear Becky. My grandma's coming in from Chicago. Maybe an 11.05. No, no, my daughter had left something on a little money paper, whatever, in her pocket, and it got put to the laundry, and so she was kind of getting on her, like, you got to clean your pants out. And my first thought was, well, you know, if you're going to do laundry, you got to probably check it, which made me not sound like I was really backing up my wife very well. Oh, right. Like I was taking my daughter's side, and I was like, I didn't mean it that way.

I just meant we're all human. We forget stuff. I always check the pockets, you know, and so I kind of got in double trouble. Ooh, bummer. Because the note was to Becky. I hid it in my daughter's pants. Exactly. This is Daniel's dad. It's time to go. You've made the mistake of listening to Live from the Path. We're here every Monday night from 10 to 11 p.m. You can catch us during the week at livefromthepath.org, or hit the YouTube channel. Full archives of the show is youtube.com backslash the path online, or specialized segments.

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