These people are confused as they need this. Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, you are live from the Pathway Studios. Broadcasting from the Pathway Studios here in Johnston Proper, the music has gone down, I mean, quick. I mean, you better have something to say, Hudson, because the music is done. I am filled with words. None of them really work together in a sentence at all. There you go, Mike. Thanks, buddy. Whiz-bang! Alright, here's what your mouth is moving. Okay, here's what we're doing. We're going to listen to live. You guys are on live from the Path, and here's what we're going to do. First of all, we completely missed last week. We didn't get to our proofs. That's because Lindgren was here. I didn't even think about it.

I did. Oh. Yeah, actually, I thought about it on the way home, and I thought, I hope someone doesn't come up to me and ask me if God is imaginary. I can't tell you. I won't know what to say. You guys didn't prove that God wasn't imaginary last week. And actually, I don't even remember what the proof is. What is it, Ben? Do you remember? It had to do with God killing people. Yeah, count all the people God wants to murder. Yeah, see, there's no way we can skip that, actually. Okay, yeah, so we're going to hit that this week. We're going to be talking about that. Also, here's the thing. I got two things that just got to stop. They just need to stop. Hemorrheds?

No, no. Damn. Hold on. Shouldn't they stop? Do they come in twos? I don't know. I've never had it. I feel like we can skip this conversation. Yeah, I feel like we should go back to, what are you two things, Ben? Well, when's the last time we had a good potty conversation? It's been a while, and frankly, I think it's to our benefit. Aren't you glad I'm here to bring it back? To tone it down.

Once again, what are those two things, Ben? So we got pumpkins this week, right? And the kids got me, you know, we each got a pumpkin, and the kids wanted me to carve a Scooby-Doo in there, you know? And I decided I was going to put in, I was going to carve out John the Baptizer. I was going to, because there's a, we have the, I can't remember what children's Bible we have, but there's a picture of John the Baptist. And he's like this. You know, he's like raising his hands, and he's yelling, screaming, and his hair is like crazy wind-blown nutty. That'd be a pretty hard pumpkin. Yeah. And so I got that picture out, right? And I decided the only way I was going to be able to pull this off was I was going to have to take the page out of the children's Bible. And I can't even help, I can't make myself defame even the kids' Bible. Like, if I hear a tear in my own Bible, I'm like, oh, no, what happened, you know?

But like, I can't even tear a page out of the kids' Bible. Like, I don't know why, I don't know why, I hold the kids' Bible sacred, and it's all been screwed up and toyed with. And, you know, Jesus is ultra-friendly, and David never did anything wrong, and I'm like, it's not the Bible. But I couldn't force myself to tear a page out of it. What's the craziest thing you've ever carved in a pumpkin? I carved the life from the path, dude. I was going to carve the life from the path. I did, I carved a, I carved, see, now the problem is that no one knows the context of that. So when they drive my house, it looks like I carved the bathroom, man. Right, please go to the bathroom at my place. Yeah, so that's what it looks like. There is a restroom inside. It's just the men's or the women's pumpkin.

I put LFTP on the sides. I thought, well, maybe that makes it look a little cooler. But then the kids did, I mean, like a way better job than I did carving pumpkins. So mine was kind of lame. Looking for the punch. So, all right, all right, so we'll get to that. We got some advice on dear life from the path. Yeah, it's kind of a rough spin. Yeah, here's the deal. We're also going to be at the Petra concert tomorrow. Yeah, buddy. Anyway, Classic Petra is hanging out at New Hope, and we're going to be broadcasting there. They start playing at 7.

We're going to fire it up at 6.45, and it should be a really fun show. Dan, in particular, seems to be excited. You know, this is one of those deals that, like most of my music knowledge, like, I know, like, I hear a song. I'm like, I know that song. I can't tell you who did it. And I hear a group. I'm like, I like that group. I can't tell you what they did other than I remember there were songs in that group that went together. But I can't tell you. Right now, I couldn't tell you for the life of me. Oh, yeah, that one song. I fear for the interview. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I should probably go back and look. Dan, here's one thing. I'm really counting on you to hold down this interview. Oh, this is going to be bad. You guys are the musicians. I'm just like, yeah, yeah. You know, when you talk to musicians, though, you don't ask musical questions. You don't be like, hey, man, so nice lower third on that chord in the chorus. I mean, that was spicy. That was all my preparation. You know, usually those interviews are like, so you guys rock. How did that happen? Well, here's the deal.

Back in my dad's basement, we were rocking back then, you know. How long have you been rocking? That's the question. We're dying to know. I feel like it was from the womb. So this is classic Petra. Does that mean it's the original Petra band? So here's what, if I read it correctly, it's not the guys that started the band, but it's the guys that were in it when they hit it big. Oh, okay. So when you think classic Petra, that's those guys. See, once again, I couldn't tell you that there was an evolution within the band. You know, all that stuff.

I just don't know those things. Really? I just know I like a tune. Oh, that has a cool beat. Or I like the message. But I usually… Did you know that Milli Vanilli used to travel separately before they got teamed up? It was just Milli on his own? Do you know who Milli Vanilli is? I know that they were lip-sinkers. Yeah. That's all I really know about that. Ba-ba-ba-ba, baby.

Don't fuck. You know what? I am awful. I am terrible. I am the worst person at Trivial Pursuit when it comes to music, television, movie stars. I can't tell you movie stars' names. I'm like, oh, the guy with dark hair. My family just drives them crazy. I'm like, I don't care. Kirk Douglas. Is that right? I remember I bought a billfold. This has gone back for years.

When I was in grade school, I bought a new billfold, and it had a picture in it. You know, they always do have a little fake picture in there. And I didn't know it at the time. It was Elvis Presley. And I was like, I remember thinking, oh, yeah, that's my favorite movie star. Because I'd already seen him in two or three movies. I love Clambake. So I kept the picture in there like, oh, here's my movie star. And people are like, oh, that's Elvis Presley. I don't know who that is. This is my movie star. Me and him have the same wallet, I guess. We got to lick his hair.

You know, I always thought it would be a really cool, I was going to write a novel. I've always had these ideas about a guy who, like, his whole family is comprised of people that were in the picture frames. So, like, he buys pictures, and it's got the pre-recorded people in it, right, pre-shot, and he just keeps them on the mantle. And he lives some sort of weird, pathetic life where everybody's like, the people in the picture frames. That is creepy, man. I know. I feel like I'd read that book. So when Uncle Dave is like 10 years older, he has to go find a picture frame with an older guy in it and buy it to swap him out. You're a new Uncle Dave? Yeah, because he's another 10 years down the road.

I need a more accurate picture of my Uncle Dave. Yeah, why don't you just say this picture's 10 years old instead of getting a new Uncle Dave? Because when it's your uncle, that's a little creepy, right? Like, if you have old pictures of, say, your mom or something, that makes sense. But, like, you're… I would disagree with that, Tyler. I agree with Tyler. I think it's creepier to have newer pictures of your uncle. That means you're really keeping up on how he's looking and what he's been up to. This is a man whose only family is people in the picture frames. He has nothing better to do. Right, exactly. Are people going to be suspicious when they're like, why do you have a picture of your Uncle

Dave sitting by a babbling brook? That's weird. He loves to go wipe her piece. Why does it say 10 by 9 lifetime memories in the bottom corner? Why does everybody from your family shop at Macy's? I don't understand. They all have the same fashion sense. He varies with the store. Okay. So anyway, that's what we got going on this week. Does anybody have any advice for the 10,000s? Troy's got one. Troy's got some advice for the 10,000s.

I suppose I got some advice for the 10,000s. Excuse me. All right. Pope style. Pope style. Hanging on a balcony, looking around. Here's the thing. Now, we're going to talk about this maybe when the Pope thing comes up. But, like, I don't know how you could go through life with the weight of being the Pope. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, if people thought that your words were God's words and this is the deal, like, I'd never leave my room in prayer. Except that you're surrounded by people who believe that totally and keep confirming that

to you. I just, I don't. You walk in the room, they're like, oh. I think you start believing it. I was going to say, for decades, if people tell me that I have a superpower, eventually I'm going to be like, all right, I got one. I pretty much do. I can fly. There's no doubt about it. I thought I was listening to the Catholic. I get stuck down in southern Iowa at work, and I listen to Catholic radio. I can't see. It's the only thing I get in.

Are you an apostle? Oh, man. I'm an apostle. Did you donate the $1,000? The crazy part is, like, they were talking about, you know, about the Pope and how his words are. You know, he speaks on God's behalf, and I'm like, I'd never leave my room. Like, I'd just be praying all the time. I hope I don't screw this up. I hope I don't screw this up. I mean, there's a certain amount of, you know, taking a bold action for Christ, but like, seriously, if every single word that comes out of my mouth has to represent my Lord and Savior, I just, I'd cry in my room and hide.

I just can't imagine ever leaving. That's a lot of weight. Yeah, I can't imagine you would have to probably take quite a few doses of humility every five and a half seconds. He probably takes Quaaludes, the Pope and Quaaludes. I don't have that issue. Is Quaaludes still a drug still? You're looking at me as, I didn't know what it was that then. Dan doesn't know who Elvis Presley is. You know, Elvis Presley was on Quaaludes. Dan doesn't know Elvis Presley in his wallet. You know Quaaludes. What's the deal?

Are they still around? Why am I the one who knows Quaaludes? Just, hey, they tried me first. Don't feel bad. Exactly. I'm not asking how many of you take. I'm just saying, do you know of them? I suppose I wasn't the number one. I know the name, but I'm not a big Quaalude aficionado, no. Is there Quaaludes around or not? As a matter of fact, I don't know a thing about Quaaludes. No, no. People don't do Quaaludes.

Yeah, they're gone. Is that an upper or a lower? That's kind of the guy who thought Brisk T was gone like a month ago. Quaaludes and Brisk T. That'll put you in a coma. They're gone. All right. So here's the deal. Here's two things that got to go. Hit me. Here's two things that got to go. Quaaludes. Already done.

Quaaludes are gone. Success. You're efficient. So I forgot them. Are you kidding me? I was all riled up about them on the way here. Wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay. I remember one of them. Let's start there.

Okay. The first thing that's got to go is people on game shows appreciating their own answer. You've seen this guy? Good answer. Good answer. Yeah. The feud. The family feud, right? So like some guy comes up with the most inane answer ever. It's like, which character from the Brady Bunch once broke their nose? And this guy's, I want to say, Warlocks. And they're like, this whole family's like, Warlocks. Yeah.

Yeah. Excellent. What a great answer. Sorcerers. And I saw a guy on, I saw a guy on Wheel of Fortune tonight. And he guesses like an N and there's three N's. And he's like clapping for himself. Oh, yeah. I'm like, you look ridiculous. Could you have guessed that many N's? You know, actually, now that you think about it, I'm surprised there wasn't more like a bleep profanity in that, in Family Feud. You know, when they're like, hey, what are the top six reasons someone gets married?

And some guy's like, to get a pet. And they're like, dang it, Charlie. You know, it's not it. You know, like there's got to be one member of your family. We're like, are you serious? You make us horrible. We had to have a fourth guy. You were the only guy not busy. You're the Uncle Jerry in the photos that we have 10 years ago. Come on. What mode of transportation was popular in the late 1900s? Pogo stick. Yeah.

Pogo stick. I thought it was a great answer. Stilts. Yeah, that's definitely got to go. That's got to stop. I agree with that. I agree with that. It has to stop. That's number one. I forgot the second one. I bet it was pretty bad. I'm going to hope it comes to me. I was going to say.

I was riled up about it. I was hoping that would snowball into the second one, by chance. No, no, no. Hey, I got the craziest story, but I'm not going to tell it to you until we get to it. We're going to go through our God is Imaginary. All right. Pants will recognize this story. I mean, I'll spend the rest of my days, and I will never be able to explain this set of circumstances. I know. It happened to me on Sunday. Yep. Okay.

All right. So here we go. Godisimaginary.com. Hold on. Did you wet your pants? I did not. Okay. I did not. Moving on. Okay. Proof number 22. This is count all the people God wants to murder. However, we're walking through the 50 proofs that God is Imaginary from godisimaginary.com.

We like to take a lighthearted look at his proofs, but ultimately I think we should be able to answer the questions because these are legitimate hindrances to some people. And always there's a bit of how can I understand God the way that this guy sees it? Because I think I know where this one's going, and it's a legitimate question trying to understand the character of God. So let's hit this one. This is proof number 22. Count all the people God wants to murder. Here he goes. If you look in the Bible, there are an amazing number of people that God wants his followers to murder. For example, in Exodus 35.2, God lays down this commandment. For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath

of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. Think about that. Think about how many people work on the Sabbath. All the employees of Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, linens and things, which were spelled incorrectly, grocery stores, convenience stores, power plants, airlines, hospitals, emergencies, blah, blah, blah. Don't rabbis, priests, and preachers work on the Sabbath? Zing-ah. God wants them all dead. Then look at Deuteronomy 21. If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and mother shall take hold of

him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gates of the place. They shall say to the elders of his town, this son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard. Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel will hear and be afraid. That is a whole lot of teenagers that we need to kill. Then there's Leviticus 20, 13. If a man lies with a male or is with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall be put to death. Their blood is upon them. All homosexuals need to be killed. What about this?

If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. That's a lot of people who need to be killed. In other words, if we actually listen to what God says, we would need to kill at least half the people in America tomorrow. After all, Isaiah 48 says, the grass weathers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever. The word of the Lord tells us to kill half of the U.S. population. There are two things in this that show you that God is imaginary. First, there is the utter stupidity of these verses. That's a fact. Second, there is this fact. If God is an all-powerful being, he would kill them himself.

There would be no need for people to do the murdering. These people would already be dead, and Walmart would be closed on the Sabbath through lack of employees. Notice that believers completely ignore these parts of the Bible. That is because they know that verses are insane. By acknowledging that their God is insane, they prove that their God is imaginary. Opening thoughts. Mike Foose. So, most of this he's grabbing from the Old Testament, which is Exodus and Deuteronomy. Those are basically the books of the Bible where the Mosaic, they call it the Mosaic Law, or the Pentateuch, correct? Is being laid out. The law, God's law, this is how you are to live, to set you apart.

From everyone else on the earth currently, right? So, basically, you know, to me, these punishments seem harsh, right? But I get them in God's heart as that he knows what will lead to your destruction anyway. You know what I'm saying? And so, to not further cause other people to go with you, then, listen, this is going to be the penalty. This is how strictly I want this upheld. This is how much I want to protect you, that I don't want you dabbling in this, right? Because as soon as you say, look, the punishment is five years in your mother-in-law's basement, then people are like, well, I can handle five years. I'll kill a guy. Well, you know, whatever. I can wait that out.

And, obviously, you know, this God is somebody that I can negotiate with, that I can put into a thought pattern in my mind, an area of my mind that I can, you know, I can deal with him, right? And God is not something or someone to be dealt with. He's someone to be revered and someone to be honored because he created you and everything around you. And, frankly, based on that fact alone, he gets to decide what stays and what goes, right? That Sabbath is there to protect you, much like the rest of the law. Now, we look at the law much differently now than these guys were. God was basically, like I said, trying to set his people apart. And if you give people wiggle room, they'll destroy themselves. I do this. You do this.

Everybody does this. As soon as you see a shimmy hole, you're in it. And then you're like, why is this hole even here? Otherwise, I wouldn't be tempted to go in it. Well, if you're threatened with your death, maybe that hole doesn't look as appealing anymore, right? And so I don't know that it was because God has a vengeful, murdering heart and wants to see people die. But when he says purge evil from your ranks, he's basically saying, look, I created you and right now this is a one-way relationship. I want people that want to be in relationship with me. And if you're going to screw around with me and not make much of me, then we're going to have an issue.

Because here's the deal. I win. I'm God. I created you. I love you. I'm giving you the option to be in relationship with me. If you choose not to, the punishment for sin is death. And so sin is any separation between you and God. And so you're choosing to separate yourself from God. God already told you what the punishment was going to be. So it's not like you can throw your hands up in the air and go, but they stoned my son because he's a drunkard and a fool. And God's like, I told you, if you're a drunkard and a fool, we're going to stone you.

So like, I mean, is the punishment harsh? It's only harsh if you do the crime. Then the punishment's harsh. If you don't do the crime, then there's not an issue here. Right. I would say in context of the Old Testament to the New Testament where we're at, these Israelites at this point in time, the people that God was speaking to when he had the Pentateuch written and the old laws were established, the covenant was established, Jesus hadn't come and died yet. There was no absolving of all those sins yet. That hadn't happened. So God also knew how easily distracted the Israelites were. So if one person does this sin and one person does this and a group of these people do these

things, it's so easily spread through the ranks of the tribes to where if a hundred people do this, you know, next thing you know, thousands of people are doing this because there was no punishment for those people. So killing off those people and the murder and the stonings, you know, at that point in time, you're right. The Israelites were God's chosen people. They were set apart and God wanted to keep it that way. He didn't want them to mingle with the rest of the world and the worldly things that they had done with sexual immorality and all the murders, everything involved in that where they weren't keeping the Sabbath and everything like that. And part of keeping his people holy and set apart was keeping them above the rest. And if that meant, you know, in certain circumstances, kicking people out of the tribes or murdering them, stoning them, having them put to death for certain things, that's something that

had to happen. Yeah. Now, let's see. Having someone put to death because of a crime is not the same as a murder. I mean, I guess if you want to characterize it with a word that'll bring a lot of connotation with it. It's punishment. It's an emotional word. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. So it's, it's punishment and it's punishment for what they're doing.

Every person who did what they did, these laws were there. They knew the punishment. The adulterers didn't know that they were, were going to be stoned. It's, or they didn't not know that they were going to be stoned. The people who, you know, murdered with malice aforethought knew exactly what was going to happen to them. And in certain circumstances, that's, that's where God needed it to happen. And that was what happened in the old Testament. Now, maybe I'm not the right person to go through on this, but I know that God's not commanding us to do this as well, because there is a new covenant that we have where we have been saved from our sins through Jesus Christ. And we don't have to do the, the, the sin offerings and the, the fellowship offerings. We're not sacrificing goats and lambs and, and bulls and oxen for every situation.

Dang, I wish I had some of my oxen back. What a mistake. Why didn't anybody tell me? I'm down 15 oxen this week. Exactly. Stupid traffic. You know, if the leader sins, he must, you know, sacrifice the oxen and the two male goats and then this and this and this, you know, Jesus came and he made the made up for that sacrifice. He was the sacrifice that took away all sin to where we don't have sin offerings anymore. We don't have burnt offerings that we need to offer. And that's where the old Testament. And at that time where people were to where we are now.

Now, here's the deal though. Like, uh, like your first read through the, through the new Testament, uh, God does come off a little bloodthirsty. Uh, if you're, if you're, if you're fresh out of the text, right? Like if you don't understand Jesus and the purpose of the law being a diagnostic to where your faith is, uh, it does, uh, like I kind of get his point of view. Like it's a loaded question. Like how many people God wants to murder? God doesn't want to murder anybody. Uh, God wants you to obey him. Uh, so you can have a relationship. Uh, he doesn't want to kill you or, you know, premeditated murder you. Uh, he wants you to be in relationship with him and, uh, he's, he's, uh, God enough to

know, uh, where you're going to, you're going to find a crack and exploit it. Yeah. I think you guys answered it really very well. Uh, every one of those verses he mentions were old Testament law specifically written to people of the covenant who God specifically called to be set apart from the rest of the world. Uh, they even weren't going around into the Canaanite tribes and the Hittites and, and everywhere else killing people because, oh, I see there's a child who's being rebellious. Let's go ahead and stone it. It was intended for the people of Israel, the people of God through which the Messiah would come. Um, you look in the new Testament and you have instances in the church where, where Paul talks about homosexuals being in the church, not practicing homosexuals.

That's what they used to be. They found Christ. Yep. They, they repented of their sins. They've got forgiveness for the, for the recent, uh, received forgiveness for their sins and were changed people because homosexual, excuse me, homosexuality is a, is a sin. It's not a, a choice, it's not a, excuse me, it's a choice and a lifestyle. It's not a, something you're born into like some of the myths that people try to portray today. And so he's kind of coming from, yeah, he throws out that loaded emotional, uh, murder word. You look at God, the big meme. Now I go back to again, once again, he is ignoring his own premise.

This does not prove or disprove God. It just proves he doesn't like what God says. Right. He feels like God's a murderer. So, you know, that's like saying Jiffy bread says it's fresh. No, it's not. It can't be Jiffy bread, you know, or whatever. That bread is no longer in existence. It just means I don't agree with it. It ain't fresh, I tell you. And that's the truth. I eat Jiffy's peanut butter. I eat the most wild sandwich you've ever seen.

You know, it's funny is I've been doing a little research here in the last couple of weeks, uh, about, about just, I mean, how do you convey truth to people? You know what I'm saying? How do you say, look, you're being deceived? Uh, and one of the topics that we're, that I was looking into was, was spiritual warfare, right? And I'd been doing some reading up on it and, uh, you know, it's, it's, the, the stuff I was looking at was way over dramaticized, you know, like it's the devil and the God are fighting and whose side are you on? And there's machine guns and there's demons everywhere. And I'm like, you know what? Let's break this down to what you need to know. What you need to know is, is that God and Satan, there is a spiritual battle between

these two. You already know who the winner is. You need to know where you fit in the spiritual warfare. And the, and the, the, the, the part that you need to remember is, is that Satan will, will bait your hook with whatever he can bait it with to get you away from God, right? Like that doesn't mean sitting up at your place at night, you know, looking for crazy shadows on the wall. These things happen, but really in the, in the, in the trenches of it, in your everyday things, it doesn't take near that. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't take Satan near that. All he has to do is, uh, you know, put that gal in front of you. That's all he really has to do.

You know what I'm saying? He doesn't have to go through this big theatrics and these big crazy things. Uh, you know, all he has to do is put that bottle in front of you and then he just walks away laughing, you know? And so like when it, when it comes to, uh, you know, things, things like this, like that's, that's the whole point of, of, of what the truth is, right? Like it's, it's God setting it up to keep you from being separated from him. And, and, and Satan's only job is to just separate you. It doesn't matter. Some people it's, it's, it's for a good works morality, you know, like, uh, Hey, uh, look, spend all your time helping the homeless, feeding people, be dead broke and, uh, love it. Live your life and love it. Be happy that you've given everything you had to everybody, but you don't know Jesus

Christ. Then, then Satan has done enough to fill your time, not worshiping your God. And you are no better off than a guy that killed 80 people. Like you're in the same straights, right? It's whatever he can bait your hook with to get you not focused on who God is and what he does. And that's exactly what that Sabbath thing is about. I don't want you losing focus or thinking less of me than you should. Uh, you always need to be thinking more of me and making a big deal out of me because I made you and I, I made everything here. And so like the way things work are, is designed by me. And so really it's hard to take when you're created sons are down on another saying, well, I see what you were going for, but no thanks.

You know, it seems foolish to me. I'm going to do this thing. And you know what, what kind of, I'd have a hard time bowing down to Lord of Lords who goes, well, I guess, you know, you're right. Maybe what I did wasn't perfect. Maybe what I did wasn't the greatest. Like I, I can really grasp onto the majesty of Christ when he says, here's the deal. There is no other deal. That's just it. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. I see where you're coming from here.

I'm taking it in. Uh, I, you know, I, I think ultimately when you, when, when you look at a question like this, like the, the big separation is if you, if you dismiss the concept of a God that created the universe and how it's going to work and what, uh, what truth is, what justice looks like, what is good and what is not good. Like if you dismiss that, then the premise seems all, all wrong. Right? Like, like if you or Spanglinger showed up and said, Hey man, everyone's going to die. Uh, or there, or anybody that offends me is going to die. Like that's outrageous because you are no authority. Right? And I will dismiss that out of hat as you being a ridiculous person because you to be offended is, is, is a, is a stupid thing to be murdering people for.

Right? But if you, if you look at, if you look at the, the, the nature of God and, and, you know, basically take the, take the guy that got stoned. Right? Uh, he's a rebellious son. They took him in front of the elders and he continued his rebellion. Right? Like there's, there's, there's a part in there. There's a, the way the system was set up is he, he still had time to say, look, no, no, I, I, I'm turning away from this. I made some mistakes. I'm going to make the, I'm going to do the sacrifice. Don't take me in front of the elders.

I'll, I'll straighten my way. Yeah. So like, this is, this is a willful disobedient. And then the, the look at this guy that the God's imaginary guy, and he's going to say, you know, look, it's going to wipe out half the U S and you think ultimately, yeah, yes. That is very possible that that's, what's going to happen. And, and, and he finds that preposterous. How could so many people be wrong? Peyton hook. Right? Right. And here's the deal is is that when you talk about spiritual warfare, there's only so many of them, right?

There's a finite amount of, of, of angels that fell. All right. You've got to think fairly highly of yourself to think that they're after you. Like you're on the list, the guy that's going to be attacked right now, but, but, but the success of, of that warfare in the world is, is, is there's, there's, there's nooses everywhere, right? From perpetuating, uh, uh, media and cultures that, that, that just take away things. So you'll hang yourself. Yeah. Like you don't need personal attention anymore as, as the, as the nations get bigger and as, as the population continues to grow, you know, people are just hanging themselves. You don't need an individual thing on you. James talks about the evil within us.

Yeah. You know, that, that, and the temptation and the things that we go after. And, and, and there's plenty of evil in us that you don't need some guy like tapping on the shoulder. You're, you're prone to do it on your own. Yeah. And, and the world and the word is, is filled with, with triggers to just draw that out on you and, and, and cause that type of behavior. But so ultimately, you know, he finds it prosperous to be half the people of the United States, you know, based upon the, the freedom that exists within our culture, um, you know, that standard gets farther and farther away of where God's standard is. And, you know, 15% might even be lucky. The, the, just the general nature of how people are and, and where they put God in the

equation. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I mean, you know, obviously he, uh, he needs a perspective, uh, change. Uh, but I, I, you know, I agree with Dan. It's, it's not a proof. He's just, he's just fighting real hard against God. And mostly the sovereignty of God, mostly, uh, acknowledging God is who he says he is, obviously, because his premise is God is imaginary. So I suppose bowing down right now is probably not a possibility. Uh, maybe later. Here's hoping. All right.

Uh, so let's, let's take a look at, that was a proof 22. Uh, let's take a quick look and see, uh, what is going to be going on next week on, uh, proof 23. Here's what I, uh, let's see what he's got ready for us. All right. Listen to the, oh, listen to the doxology. What's that mean, fellas? The doxology is a song sung in millions of Christian churches around the world every Sunday, and it opens with the sentence, praise God from whom all blessings flow. What? Huh? Have you, what's, no, have you? Praise God from whom all blessings flow.

Praise him, all creatures here below. Dad knows it. Is that what that is? Praise him above ye heavenly hosts. I've never heard of this before. No, they're right. Really? Yeah. A lot of churches do that, and I've always thought this dorky. Is it a Bible verse? Huh? Is it a Bible verse? It's probably based on, let's see, is the end of Jude, doesn't have a doxology they call

it, or? Well, there's a doxology in this song. We'll check it out. It looks to be a, he's back on a money train. It looks to be boring. He's on a money train. It looks to be very boring. All right. All right. There we go. Anyway, so we'll hit that next week. You're listening to Live from the Path. Hey, make sure you can check us out during the week by going to livefromthepath.org.

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And don't forget now, we're going to be at the Petra concert tomorrow. Streaming? No streaming? Yeah, we're streaming it. We're going to play it as it goes. Yeah, it's going to be going live. We're firing up. We're going to start broadcasting at 645. Classic Petra fires up at 7. And we do have the opportunity. We're going to be able to interview the band. No doubt. Yeah.

Yeah, so we're going to talk to them. Maybe we should try to see if we can get the chat and roast up a couple questions for us to ask them. Should I bring an old LP and have them sign it? I probably have one. You should bring those leather pants you had back in the day, Dan. Welcome to Petra! I can only afford leather. That's the second thing that has to go. What? Okay, here's what has to go. Well played, Mike. Here's what has to go. Here's Mike.

Are those things that talk when you pull up to the drive-thru window. The automatic phrase. Now, here's what happened to me today. Okay? We pull up to the Bebops, and the voice goes, Welcome to the Bebops. Can I take your order? It's like a little kid running the drive-thru, right? And I'm like, no. No, no. You just give me just a minute. And he goes, That's all right.

Take your time. I mean, Barry White is on the microphone at the Bebops. Can I take your order? Yeah, there's no problem. It was the weirdest thing ever. You know what I do with those? I wait awkwardly until they finally ask, and a real person says, Can I help you? I'll just sit there and say, I'm not going to tell a human talks to me. I'm just going to sit here and… I must not be going to the right places.

I've never even heard one of those. It doesn't just McDonald's all the time. You were just fools. Would you like to try our new… They always go, Welcome to McDonald's. Do you want to try our new mocha shake? Okay. And you're like, Oh, no, thank you. And then there's another lady who goes, Okay, honey. What can I get for you?

Like some other dude. Anyway, Thanks for choosing McDonald's. It was the most highest-pitched woman. And then some really low… It was wild. Anyway, that's got to go. And you don't know, though, because sometimes it could be… Sometimes there's two or three people running around with those little headsets on, so you don't know what's… Are they just tag-teaming?

Or is it their little recording? You know? Hey. It's McDonald's. You know, whatever it is. I mean, it sounds pretty fakey, though. I'll tell you what. I've never felt my attitude go so south. I know. As when they sarcasm me after I didn't answer it. They're like, Would you like to try the new Tropicana orange juice? And I was like,

No. Did I order it? Well, what do you want, Dan? Well, let me think about it. You know? After you got through your sales pitch, you know? I love when they… Okay. I guess I do know what you guys are talking about. The Burger King by my house does that. And they have one that asks if I want to try the new chicken parmesan meal for only $6.99. I love it when they interrupt that. Like, that's actually my favorite part of those, is when it's like,

Welcome to Burger King. Would you like to try it? Welcome to Burger King. How can I help you? Which is like, I really wanted to hear the end of that sales pitch, actually. What were you going to offer? There may have been something I might have wanted to try. Plus, the pre-recorded guy is way excited. Then the guy working there is all bummed out. I've been here for four and a half hours, and I really don't like my job. What can I get for you? It's 11.30.

We close at 12, dude. Seriously. You're getting nothing but spit and grease. If you order more than $2 or something, you're not getting it. If I have to put new fries in, I'm going to be mad. I tend to end up, if I go to somewhere like that, I tend to be going there late. Like, I'm leaving somewhere. I'm there at 1 in the morning. And boy, you get the unmotivated crew at 1 in the morning. It's the guy that keeps up the farce like that. They're fully staffed. If you're at the McDonald's, and he comes to the first window, and he takes your money. And then I drive up, and here he comes running around.

He's got the sack of chicken sandwiches. Changed his shirt real quick. Handed it over. He's got a manager's shirt on now. Shift change. Why don't we just stay at the first window and just do the whole transaction? Anyway, that's got to go. I can't take that at all. Fair enough. It's kind of funny. I get the same guy every once in a while when I stop. And I'm like, you know, I'll take the number one who's like, we're on the late night menu. Oh, well, I'm sorry.

I don't work here. Does it come out of a joke? I mean, what's that? You don't have a time set up for the late night menu. And they only serve, like, the three crappy sandwiches that no one wants anyway, you know? All we have is double fish with pickles. And then the chocolate fries. That's all. We either have the one cheap thing that you never get or the really expensive thing that you're going to get because you don't like the cheap thing. We've got half the dollar menu, but then all of our full meals. And all of our dollar menu is actually still cold from 6 o'clock this morning. We have 38 apple pies ready for you, and we make Thursday. I have a feeling that I'm being pushed into getting the very expensive meal, and I'm not excited about that.

So, real quick, we're on the subject of the fast food. I was at the Burger King the other day, and they started serving these Cinnabons, you know, like at the Burger King. Oh, Cinnabon Minis? Yeah, so they have, like, the actual Cinnabon, you know, cinnamon rolls, and they had them in an outdoor case, you know? And some gal, you know, they always play the drive-thru over the speakers. He's like, do you have any Cinnabons? He's like, yeah, fresh made daily. Well, give me the two-pack. And so the guy, like, pulls them out of the clear plastic thing and goes, here you go, Jim, will you refresh these, please? And he put them in the microwave. That's disgusting. That's the refresher. I'm like, how long have those been there?

How else would we expect as a society to go up to a window and say, I want a fully cooked hamburger, and I want it in the next minute and a half. Fresh. Fresh, yeah. Or I'm not going to be happy. Like, it's right off the counter. I want it. And when it goes for two minutes, everyone behind me is going to start honking and be perturbed and mad, and I want it fresh. Now, that just absolutely cracks me up. They take a 1970s microwave and call it the refresher. Just add, like, a nuclear power generator behind it. Or fresh. Nothing says fresh like fresh out of the microwave. Now, what I hate about the drive-thru is with all of our modern technology, they still have microphones that don't work and speakers that don't work.

And then my girls, if we happen to be in the family together, you know, they all have special orders. Okay? And I'm like, I will not go through the drive-thru with a special order because they don't get it. It never happens right. Then they're whining and complaining. I'm like, okay. I always ask them before we get there, what are you going to order? So then I just pull them to a stall. They're like, no. You're going to do it on your own. You're doing number three diet coke? Or we're going inside. Or we're going inside.

Hey, man. Here's the deal. I probably go to the fast food too much, right? But, like, I don't understand it looking at the menu for, like, ten minutes. I mean, I've been to the McDonald's before. I knew what I wanted before. I turned it in. Right? I ordered the same thing every time. I was like the chili dog. What do you mean? Members that I am, nameless people that I'm married to, like, will pull up and look at this menu like she's never seen it before.

Okay. I'm sorry. He, she has never seen it before. At least I'm going to get God's version. There's a marriage story somewhere. What are they offering? Oh, look. They have hamburgers. They've been selling the same fat for 40 years. What are these French fries? I will tell you, okay, so in his or her defense of said person that you may or may not be married to, I will say I cheated today on my diet. I will admit it on this radio show.

I went to Taco Bell after I got off work, and I go to Taco Bell once every 21 years, and I'm 21, so not many times. I sat at the menu, and not even the menu where you can, like, talk to the people. I'm at the back menu, because there's no one else there for the first time in my entire life, and I'm just like, I am too nervous to drive up yet. I have no idea what's going on. I'm, like, staring, like, out the side of my car window at this full, expansive menu of tacos and everything, trying to figure out what is going on. Right, and there's, like, one ingredient that changes between each meal, right? I'm like, would you like a chalupa? No, I have no idea what that is. Would you like a cheesy gordita crunch? I feel like you just reshaped the taco.

You just put a taco inside a burrito. That's not anything different. That's a taco burrito. Mexican restaurants are cheap, right? Burrito, like, if it's just wrap that in that. A burrito is like, hey, I want something in a tortilla with beans, rice, and cheese. Okay, great. Now I want you to fold it in a U-shape. I'll take the taco. No, wrap it up. I'll take the burrito. Say beans, rice, and cheese. I'll take it.

You know what they do? $3 more. All they do, though, is they just take each individual menu item. So if you were to look at the a la carte, so you've got the chalupa, you've got the taco, you've got the burrito, the soft shell, the hard shell. All they do to make these bigger and bigger combos is just combine them. It's like, we're going to give you a taco. We're going to wrap that in another taco, and we're going to wrap that in a burrito. And guess what? We're going to put that in a chalupa. We're going to grill it. We're going to throw some nachos on top of it. We're going to put some cheese.

And then we're going to put that into one bigger taco, and then press that and grill it. And it's the Super Taco Chalupa Burrito Gordita Crunch. It's like, can't I just order everything a la carte? Is this going to be cheaper? Somebody was taking notes to that. That's a great idea! See, you can get with this huge bag, and it's just like, what monstrosity of Mexican cuisine did I just order? In its own formed briefcase. It's like, can I get 876 napkins for this monstrosity? There's a guy in the car, once you get it out, he's like, hey man, you're going to eat that burrito?

Can you extract the burrito from the eighth layer and let me have it? Can you take the taco out of the chalupa and then put it on the outside of the chalupa and the gordita? It's like, wait, what? All we do is take this out of the freezer and nuke it anyway, dude. It goes in the refresher. Put it in the freezer! This actually was a prototype from 1984 that we're reviving in a microwave. Is this made fresh daily? It's refreshed daily. Just like it. It was made one day, yes. Do you want to wash that down with a six-gallon Dr. Pepper?

Can I get the super huge free refills if you can drink it all while you're here? And it's Thursday, so we bought eight used apple pies from the McDonald's and put them in the middle. Would you like your dessert churro in the middle of that? It's like, no. Hey man, desserts at the taco places are terrible. Yeah, they are. Churro, they're not even trying. What are those little cinnamon twists that you can get? That's the churro. Is that the churro? Okay. I thought that was fries, and it was like, what's going on here?

The funny part is, those places will sell out for anything, except for they're sticking to their Americanized taco branding, that they stick with the churro, right? Give it up, get some ice cream. Exactly. You're not an authentic Mexicano restaurant. We got that figured out now. Churro, just shake for the love of fast food. You know what? Sell me a package of M&M's for a buck. I'll pay it. Just sell it to me. Here's what I'm going to find out. I'm going to go to Mexico someday.

And ask for a churro. I'm going to find out it refers to mustache. You don't like a churro? Can I get a crispito? It's like, what's crispito? A special churro on burro. I was going to Mexico and be like, hey, can I get a taquito like the ones that Quick Trip sells? I'm just like, what's a taquito? Is that even Spanish for anything? That's not a legitimate item. Didn't they just added that to the dictionary? Yeah.

Oh, that's so… It did not exist before. To the American dictionary? Yeah. Some guy in a boardroom at Quick Trip goes, you know what? Tiquito. Write it down. What sounds Hispanic and is technically not copyrighted? It's the most racist food ever. Hey, add the Q-U-Keto thing in it. Ah, taco, taquito. It's like calling it the lay burrito. You're like, hey, we got a new French food coming out.

Lay burrito. And then it's like a French guy comes in and goes, oh yes, that defines me. You know what? We should wrap it in something. No, no. Wait until next year. It'll be the deluxe. Yeah, exactly. That'll be the $5.99 version. With an E. All right, you're listening to Live from the Path. We love Jesus. We sure do.

And when he comes back, we won't have to deal with it still. You know what I'm saying? Super Chalupa. People to Murder was not the taquito man, so live on. Welcome to heaven. Where would you like to worship? Yeah. All right. People need help, Mike. Yeah, especially if they go through the drive-thru. They're riled up. They've watched the presidential debate. I mean, the people don't know what to do with themselves.

Did you watch the debate tonight? No, I was driving. I was on the road. I listened to it on the radio. It was civil. It was civil. Here's what I like. I agree with your policies. If they weren't the stupidest policies ever, I'd never have done that. Anyway, here we go. Yeah, no. I'm glad that we agree on this particular subject. If you didn't beat kittens.

Yeah. If you didn't carelessly murder everything I've ever known, maybe I'd vote for you, but I guess I can't. And now I'm going to misrepresent everything you said. And my grandma, I talked to her last week, and she also doesn't like you. Plus, I love old people. I was talking to my grandma back in Gainesville, Ohio, and she had this following story about how much this guy stinks. He knows everything about you. What I really loved about it, in an honesty, one guy's talking about, you know, for two minutes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm going to do this and this and this, or I did that, blah, blah, blah. And the other guy, his first words out of his mouth was, that'd be great, but everything

you just said is incorrect. Yeah. I feel like you wasted my time with his two minutes of lies. I'm going to, well, that's a pretty bold statement. Every word you just said was a lie. It's like, now you just look stupid. It's probably not. Yeah. It's probably not everything. There's probably something in there. Because if you boil it down to what it is, it truly is. No, you're a liar. Yeah.

Everything you said is not true. It's all lies. My mom says your dad's stinky. These are grown men trying to be leaders of the known world, you know. Liar. Okay. Okay, I'll talk to him, but I'm not going to look at him. And if he stands up, I'm going to stand up, too. That's right. Okay, here we go. Dear, live from the path. When my husband and I married, I thought I'd hit the jackpot in mother-in-laws. We were becoming friends, going shopping together, et cetera.

Boy, was I wrong. Now, five years later, I can't stand a woman. Just 15 minutes with her sends me over the edge. She's rude, judgmental, and gossips like a teenager about everyone. She put together a cookbook for me filled with my husband's favorite recipes. Guess what? After trying a half a dozen of them and failing at every one, I realized she had changed and added or emitted certain ingredients in every single one. When I asked her about it, she told me she just wanted her son to prefer her cooking over mine. Then, there was the time that she was babysitting and took our son to see Santa Claus for the very first time without asking or telling us. That's an event parents want to be part of. I found out about it months later when I looked through her scrapbook.

I'm not sure of her motives, but she has something against me. My husband is on my side 100% when it comes to his mama. He can't stand to be around her either. Dang. What is the appropriate way to handle her? She makes us want to move away. Ready to pack in Ohio. Ready to leave. Okay. All right. So, if husband is in agreement, why has he not talked to his mother? Exactly. Hi, mom.

We're not going to let you take the kids if you're going to do things that we don't want you to do. Sabotaging a cookbook so that my wife spends a bunch of her time making something that I ultimately don't want. Seems like a real witchy thing to do. She's like a cartoon character. Carulla DeVille. Jeez, man. Seriously. I'm going to sabotage everything in your marriage. Who goes the time to put together a cookbook with them? I mean, what ingredients are you taking out? You know, like beef burgers.

No beef. You almost hear like cutting worms out of a magazine and like typing them in. Pasting things into stuff. It's like, oh, he really eats cayenne pepper in his French toast. Let's put this on here. This woman is too large for life, man. And I usually don't see characters like this all the time. She's rough. She's rough. Yeah, they need to have a conversation. And maybe, you know, if they have to, you know, just sever the relationship a little bit. And, you know, back it off. I don't know.

It's your family. Here's the thing. Is that judging by, A, the situation, and B, their suggestion on how to resolve it, they're kind of cowardly, you know, on how to deal with things. Like, granted, it's probably going to be an awkward and tough conversation. But, like, your suggestion is like, hey, we don't know how to deal with this. And maybe we should just move away. Move away. You know, that's a bit extreme. You know, just say, hey, Ma, you're lying, Gene. Why are you saying, come over here, Ma? Seriously, you're causing trouble with my place. I can't imagine having that kind of relationship with my mother where I couldn't go up to her

and be like, hey, Ma. So, you know how I married her, right? I love her with all my heart. She's the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with. I have children with her. Can you not torment her at all? I mean, is there any way that you can stop the whole, hey, I'm going to, like, completely make everything in your life horrible? Yeah. And don't you realize I had to eat that seaweed chili? That kelp was disgusting. You know that's not right. Now, Cheryl's dad, okay, mom and dad, when they got married, her dad's mom did not like

Pat, you know, Pat. Right. So, early on in the marriage, mom snuck in, took all of his clothes out of the closet, moved him out, and she came home, you know, thinking he had left. And she is just, you know, holy cow. He comes home, she's bawling, you know, why did you leave? And he's like, what are you talking about? This stuff happens. That is terrible. In the real world. If you're to the point where you are able and completely willing to go over to your child's home and just demolish their marriage, what kind of testament does that take to your character? I'm the only woman in his life.

I would probably put high C in the top of the toilet tank just to freak him out. But, like, other than that, it doesn't seem like it's worth it. I want my 40-year-old son to love me more than you. It's like, he moved out 22 years ago for a reason. This is awful. Maybe we should move, man. I just, I don't know. Like, here's the, if you can't have an honest conversation with your mom, because, frankly, you're not taking care of your wife. Like, this is a dude's problem. Like, hey, ma, look, we're just not going to put up with that stuff in my house. I'm trying to teach my kids better. I have a relationship where we're rocking with my wife.

All this stuff is just not going to happen anymore. So you can either be a part of this family or not. You know, here's the rules in this house. Here we go. Here's a secularist advice. It isn't necessary to move away to distance yourself from people like your mother-in-law. Limit the time you spend with her. When you must see her, be careful not to say anything negative about anyone or give her sensitive information you don't want shared. If you want to prepare special food for your husband, go online and find recipes that haven't been doctored up. Yeah, classic. That's what she was asking.

Yeah. You'll find plenty of them. Then let him rave about your cooking. Dear secular, where do I get nice recipes? Online, you say? Pinterest. Hold on, there's more. Hold on. As for the incident with Santa, remember that your son was so young, he probably has no memory of it. That totally wipes out the offense. I killed a man, but I can't remember at all. I'm pretty sure it's cool now.

He definitely doesn't remember it, so we're good. Secular does have a point, though. I kind of went through my mind, too. I thought, you know what? The child really doesn't care. That's just kind of appearance. It's like, I wanted to be… Okay, I feel like she's overselling it, then, because she says, many little children are afraid by big strangers in red suits, which is why smart parents don't force the exposure. Yeah, because that's what the question was about. That was also the question. Where can I find online recipes, and how do I deal with Santa Claus? That's what I want to know.

Help me. Not the sabotaging mother-in-law. It says, don't cut her off. However she manages it, she created the wonderful husband with whom you are blessed. You find that true, Troy? No. No. She didn't create them. You know, here's the thing. People say, look, you know, you're… They say, look, you can only blame your environment so long when you turn out crappy, right? But let's say you turn out great, now you're crediting the environment, which obviously had nothing to do with it.

She's conniving. Seriously. Yeah, I mean, you don't cut her off, but I mean, I would certainly put restrictions. Yeah. You know. She can grow up. I mean, it's not… You're never too old to grow up a little. Just to go back to the first part of that, what changed from the beginning of the relationship where she thought she won the jackpot with her mother-in-law to having this Cruella DeVille character that we described for a mother-in-law? Did she start doing something differently where the relationship changed or did the mother just realize, oh, he's really married to her and he isn't going to leave her anytime

soon. I better start hating her guts and then just intentionally sabotaging their relationship. Well, I mean, someone who's willing to put a cookbook in there and leave out ingredients is probably willing to premeditate that type of thing. Yeah, banging on a divorce to just get her baby back. So that you would trust her to give you a book? Maybe so. Wow. At first, I was thinking when you first started reading it that the problem is they're too much alike. And they might be. We don't know. But yeah, maybe she was just being bevious.

And then after five years, they're just like, okay, I can't stand being with me every single day. So leave me alone. I'm going to sabotage a marriage. Bold move. All right, Troy. People are standing on the balcony. 10,000 people. They're looking up at Troy Engelinger. Pope Troy, they call him. Pope Troy, they call me. All right. And you come out to the balcony and they're like, everyone hushes.

Hush. Troy's coming out. And you're going to provide some sort of advice, direction, words to the wise. They're not willing to move from that spot until you say it. What do you say for this week? They're not willing to move from the spot they're at, staring up at me. What am I going to say to them? I think that I'm going to say to these people, these masses, as we determine them to be, if you're feeling that you are needing to justify so many behaviors in your life, where at every turn, you know that you're doing these things wrong, but then your mind allows you to keep justifying it and keep justifying it. You keep running into the same stump and you justify it and you justify it. There needs to come a time when you do not allow your mind to justify something that you know is wrong in your life to keep moving forward on it.

You are at a block in whatever relationship you're in. You're not allowing yourself to move forward by keeping justifications on what you're doing wrong, what you are being convicted that you're doing wrong, what you're being told in your heart that you're doing wrong. And you keep justifying it and keep justifying and keep justifying it. You need to allow your mind to move past it, to accept that it is wrong and fix it instead of making excuses over and over again for the problem and not being an adult about it and fixing it. You pompous louse. Who are you to speak to me like this? Mr. Perfect over there. Here's how you change your ways. They call me Troy.

You know, I actually thought of something this week that kind of fits along that, which is sometimes you, you don't, you don't put your, your, we don't put our, we generally don't put our sin in the right perspective, right? We look at our sin the way people look at sin as opposed to how God looks at sin, look back at Leviticus, right? And so he was, we talked about it. He wants to murder people due to their separation. So, so if you think of it this way, when God created the world, he put people in it and then sin basically invaded the world. Okay. Sin, sin came, started to permeate the world. It invaded his territory that he created to be a certain way and invaded a race that he created for himself.

So when Jesus comes, Jesus comes as a, as a King to fight off those that have invaded his people and his land, his creation. All right. Now, when I, uh, I like to think that I say, when Jesus comes, I say, yes, Jesus, I want to be a part of the thing that you're doing. I'm going to follow you. I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to do the thing that you want. And then when I get behind Jesus and me and the rest of the Jesus army, we're traveling the world, right? And then every once in a while I stop with the infantry. I walk away and I take a sword and cut my own leg with it and, or I chop somebody else. I look for another person in the Lord's army and I give a chop and I, and I do it on purpose,

right? I think to myself, you know what? I'm going to choose to do this as opposed to fighting for God and God's cause. Cause I'm going to fight for my own cause and maybe take a hack of my own leg every once in a while. And like, it's such a preposterous thing. It's such a preposterous thing. When, when King Jesus has come to fight off those that have invaded his perfect creation and every once in a while, and I've been invited to be part of the infantry and I want to fight and I want to be part of this thing and I want to do what God wants me to do. And then every once in a while I think to myself, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm going to move to the side and take a hack away at myself or somebody else.

And then I'm going to come back and Jesus is going to be like, you know what? Yes, you can come back in the army. And then, you know, a few days later I kind of do the same thing. I step away and I hack myself in the leg. And like, that is a, for me personally, looking at it from that perspective makes my sin look way more ridiculous than I'm generally willing to put it into categorization, right? I'm like, ah, you know, I mean, I know it's a big deal, right? Like I generally don't undersell it, but I don't necessarily act like it's a big deal. My reaction to my own sin isn't necessary. It doesn't necessarily reflect the weight of it really where it is on separating me from God. But if I think of myself as Lord's army, Lord's army, hey, you know what I'm going to do? Whack.

Like that's outrageous. It's an outrageous thing to step out of God's army and fight for myself for a while and then jump back in. And so in the lines of self-justification, when we're justifying things, when we're continually committing sin, be it the same one or various amounts of one, and we're providing justifications, like seriously, don't just think to yourself, yeah, but, you know, because that's the sign of a guy that's about to tell himself that something's all right. Yeah, but, you know, it's probably all right. Take the double burrito. But like, we think, no, every time something like that pops into your head, you think to yourself, no, I'm going to stop doing what God wants me to do. I'm going to pick up a sword. I'm going to walk 10 feet out of the camp and chop my foot off.

And then I'm going to hobble back in, blood all over the place and say, okay, ready to go. Ready to fight for the Lord. That's what it looks like to me. Absolutely. I find myself, actually, I found myself here this week that I was running back into the comfort of, you know, obviously it's there for a reason and it's a good comfort to have, but at the comfort of, you know, God knew that I was going to do that. God knew that I was going to do that. He loves me still. He's okay with it. I mean, he's not okay with the sin. He loves me still. He's okay with me still.

Were you going to say what the comfort was? The comfort of the fact that we're forgiven of our sins. Okay. So we have been forgiven of our sins. God knows that we're going to sin and still has forgiven us for each individual one. Jesus died on the cross knowing each and everything we were going to do. I found myself running back to that saying, well, in that case, I mean, that's not that big of a deal. God knew it was going to happen. I'm, I'm a failure. I'm faulty. I'm, I'm a man, you know, I'm imperfect. It's okay.

And then I stopped myself and thought to myself, well, the back part of that is true, but I should never be comfortable with sin in my life. I should never be okay with any sins in my life. I accept my fallibility, but I refuse to get comfortable with the fact that I'm a failure on a day basis, daily basis, excuse me. And I found myself running back to that on multiple occasions. And it really kind of made me sick to my stomach. And I know that there's thousands of people to do the exact same thing every single day. If they run into that speed bump every single day. So you imagine a car in a parking lot, you're trying to get to the other end of the parking lot. You keep ramming into that speed bump. Well, yeah, you got past it.

Well, you just put yourself in reverse and you just hit that speed bump again. You're not getting any closer to the other side of the parking lot. You keep hitting that speed bump. Yeah, that's called Calvinism. We can't help it. We're depraved. Well played. We're depraved. What do you expect? What do you expect? I'm depraved. Throw it reverse. God expects it.

All right. I didn't. All right. Well, not so hidden to get the Calvinist. Nice to have done that. Bring on the phone calls. Bring on the phone calls. Line one. You're on. Yeah, I don't like what Dan says about Calvinism. He needs to read Acts 7. There's a reason I'm not a Calvinist. It's because I read the Bible.

There's 10 or 15 guys I really love. They weren't biblical writers, but they're sure good. They're sure good. They really out like this thing. They make me feel great about where I'm at. So that's what I have to say to the masses. I think that's good. One of the things I think to keep in mind when you talk about sin is think of God's perspective on our sin. We tend to characterize that he's being upset because we've separated ourselves from him, but we look at it from the wrong direction. Sin is so bad because not being separated from God is so good. We focus a lot on this is a perversion of what it could be. We need to look at God's image of what he's created and the lives that we are able to lead. And so it saddens God because we're missing out on that closeness.

We're missing out on that relationship. The sin itself is just the fulcrum of which we see ourselves being pulled away from that epic thing that God has set up for us. And so looking at that from God's perspective, I can see it as a positive thing and say, look, you know, don't undersell. Don't take away what God has provided. Don't take away that relationship of which I'm able to do. And it's that sin that starts to separate me from things like that as opposed to being really to enjoy ultimately what God wanted us to be able to enjoy. Yeah, I agree. I agree. You've been listening to Life in the Path. Thanks for hanging out with us so far this week. We do really appreciate you guys listening. Make sure you sign up for the podcast if you don't get it already. And, yeah, hey, bring your friends to listen to the show.

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