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here in sultry, Johnston, Hubbard. That don't sound right. No. That don't sound right. It's not really it's sultry. It's not it's not sultry in here. Not at all. No. Got it. I've sillied the show already. Alright. Well done. Hey. Here's what we got going on the show tonight. We're gonna we got what is Jesus talking about? Herrick, what's what's

the tease on what's Jesus talking about this week? Yeah. So Jesus does one of his descriptions of the kingdom of heaven, and it sounds like it's just a a whole ball of corruption. So we're gonna talk through that one. Hold on, Phil. How many of guys are looking at your phone right now? Dan Hudson, boova. I'm gonna put on a road radio program. Corruption. Hey, Corruption. We pull it together. I was preparing myself for something later. That's due. I was not. Thank you very much. I was not. I was preparing content for the show.

I was not. If you would not have called me out, everything would have been okay. It's on the camera. There's a video camera right on you. I see it. Hey, everybody. For all we know, he was watching himself on YouTube. Which is a good chance. Here I am. Hello. You guys don't realize how often I do that. I'm always this party. Alright. Anyway, nice. We're gonna talk about that. Also,

we got, actually, let's just let's just do this. Moova, hook me up. There's there seems to be some controversy with the halftime show at the Super Bowl. Go ahead, Moova. Hey. Luckily, I was looking at my phone and preparing this so that when you called me out immediately Hey. You could have done it before the show started. Right? We broadcast at, like, ten at night. There's plenty of time in the wee hours to pull yourself together. I don't know if I'd call ten at night the wee hours, man. No. I know beforehand. Those aren't the wee hours either. They're You're wrong. They're telling. We Okay. So I I was Facebooking recently and came across an article that someone had posted and it's it it kinda threw me, and I wanted to kinda talk about on the show. So here's the here's the header.

Ex Christian Katy Perry promotes dark magic and LGBT agenda at two thousand fifteen Super Bowl halftime show. So it starts off with a a passage quoted, which is, when I was daily with you in the temple, you stretched forth no hands against me. But this is your hour and the power of darkness,

which is Luke twenty two fifty three. In the recent years, the Super Bowl, almost always the highest rated and most watched television broadcast on the planet, has given over its famed halftime show to trumpet the cause of the new world order and the Illuminati. And as referenced in our opening bible verse at the top of the story, the Illuminati knows that it is their hour and they are defiantly out in the open. So then it has a picture of Katy Perry.

She is if you didn't get a chance to see it, she is wearing a flames dress like she looks like she's fire. And she's riding a giant golden somewhat tiger Uh-huh. With really big red beady eyes. Yep. Yep. So then it quotes her song. It says, you wanna play with magic. Boy, you should know what you're falling for. Babe, you do dare to do this because I'm coming at you like a dark horse. Are you ready for, ready for, a perfect storm, perfect storm? Because once your mind, once your mind, there's no going back. So quotes that. Yep. Two years ago, you had Beyonce flashing the Illuminati triangle sign during Super Bowl forty eight. Uh-huh. The year before that, you had Madonna as a new age goddess

gyrating on a satanic throne. And last year, you had Bruno Mars shouted Illuminati now during his performance. I didn't catch that. I didn't catch that either. This year, we had ex Christian Katy Perry providing the entertainment for us. Perry, whom you may recall famously renounced her Christian upbringing and has this to say about what her faith is like today. I don't believe in heaven or hell or an old man sitting on a throne. I believe in a higher power bigger than me because that keeps me accountable. She goes on to basically say that she's not a Christian

and she still feels like she has a deep connection with God, just does not affiliate with Christians. So let's see how former Christian Katy Perry did compared to previous years. Katy Perry opened riding a golden monster with glowing red satanic eyes, singing the lyrics to her hit Dark Horse, partially quoted in the photo above. Reads the read those words closely, it's the devil speaking, and he's coming for you if he can. She performed her LGBT fan favorite, I Kissed a Girl,

leading as many young women as will follow her into experimentation with the LGBT perverted lifestyle. And Perry closed with another pro LGBT song called Firework, where she floated over the audience riding a shooting star with the LGBT rainbow at its tail. The new world order and illumination agenda is being hammered into our children at a feverish rate, using catchy lyrics and a nonstop droning drumbeat with overwhelming power chords. Ending with parents,

protect your children if you love them. All of this junk, every bit of it is poisoning their minds and turning them away from God. Katy Perry is the perfect poster girl for the new world order because she used to be a Christian and now mocks the God she once served. Just like Lucifer did as he was becoming Satan. So Yeah. Now, say I I agree with pieces of it. Yeah. But a hint of it. But then they just like

just get weird. They just go crazy and insane And to the point that it's kind of embarrassing to go, oh, yeah. We're brothers. Yeah. Maybe I went a little far there. But, you know, it yeah. They just go a little far, I think. Well, I think they go a lot far. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Think they go a lot far. It's much more like a little. Here here's the thing. Is is like, you've yanked

if you have a a a love for God's word, and you say and I look at it and say, this is this is supposed to communicate something to me. I'm supposed to know God deeper. I'm supposed to know about him and his character. You can't be yanking crap from wherever you want. Like Yeah. The the quote or the opening quote. What was it? Luke twenty two fifty three. When I was with you day after day in the temple, you did not lay hands on me, but this is your hour and the power of darkness. What's the context? He's talking to religious leaders of the time. Just In from the temple. It's right before his crucifixion. This is like thirty to thirty three AD ish. So in all of the two thousand years of history since then,

Jesus prepared us for this exact moment. He's letting us know that Katy Perry's coming. Yeah. That's what they're insinuating. I hey. I'm about to get arrested and and taken in front of the high priest, but also I intend to warn you about Katy Perry's halftime show. That's what I'm saying. You basically use Super Bowl because it's trademarked. So he had to say the big game coming up. The big game. It's stupid. Okay. And so let let's let's follow. So, yeah, the other thing is that they're talking about the she she was entering on the Golden monster. On the golden monster. Alright. So I think it's it's trying to harken back, to a Daniel seven. And here's the truth. If that's what it is, okay, if this is a beast emerging from first of all, it's not emerging from the sea, That's that's problematic. Second of all, do you remember the descriptions of these beasts? Let me give you a go. So a lion that had an eagle's wings,

and it looks like its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand on two feet like a man, and the mind of a man was given to it. Another beast, a second one like a bear, raised up on one side, three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. I look back, another beast like a leopard with four wings of a bird on its back. The beast had four heads. And then a fourth beast, terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong, it had great iron teeth. It devoured and broke in pieces and stamped what was left with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had 10 horns. So now here's the deal. If this is supposed to be the beast, either Daniel, like, did too much of the peyote when he was writing down the description, or this ain't the right beast. It it like, if if they're pointing to say this is the guy, it's not it can't be the right one. Are they referring to Katy Perry as the beast? Is that what type of No. The the Ah. The monster. The the golden monster she was riding in on. Oh, I mean, if you looked at that Katy Perry, she looked like Bam Bam Bigelow

from the WWF wrestling. It was the exact same get up. Wait. So so let me ask. So just for my understanding. So that the Daniel seven references, is that not traced back to like civilizations?

Yes. Like Yeah. Each beast is traced back to like an actual culture in a civilization Yeah. Risen and fallen. It it'd be like if in the nineteen fifties, you described this great conflict between the eagle and the bear, and how it involves a missile crisis. Everyone's gonna immediately think, oh, yeah. The United States and Russia. Yeah. Because those were the national symbols. Right. Likewise, Daniel's referring to what are known as national symbols for his day. Right. So if you're but but if you're gonna take that thing seriously, if you're gonna take it, as if it was not a symbolic discussion and it was a literal beast, that it's missed. It's missed the mark. Yeah. So, even through that interpretation, it tells me you have a low view of scripture because, I would say that that can't be the guy. Hollywood's always messing with our symbols.

And that was the other thing. She was when she was on the star and accompanied by the LGBT symbol rainbow, it's god's rainbow. Yeah. It's god's rainbow. Exactly. You can't mess with that. That's a pretty, I don't know, un god sized beast. I mean, if I expect a literal beast, I would expect a a beast now. You know what I'm saying? The Lord don't make some kind of halftime show beast. Not four dudes running legs on something. Yeah. I feel like Like, saw the dudes underneath it, like, alright. Now move the leg here. I'm like that Jesus could come up with. I don't think so. That's Daniel seven. Daniel's just like, okay. And I didn't tell you with that last piece. There's actually four dudes that move the legs for it. But we're not gonna write that down because the They symbolism listen there together in ten minutes after the last play. You know I'm saying? Was ready to go. Feel It big fiery red Satan eyes. It's like, no. Those are just jewels. Like, I don't think that's really meant to be like, this is Satan eyes. It's like, really, man? This is your overreaction to the situation? Like, yeah. I'm sure that we can pull some truth out of that. And I'm sure that we can say some things about Katy Perry and and some of the things that she's representing. But to jump to the conclusion that basically you're saying that she is bringing out, like, the the revelation that that happens and and the acts that are happening there. And then the prophecy in Daniel seven walking on a man made mechanical beast onto a Super Bowl field.

If that yeah. Exactly. If it comes back to you, that's what you think God's power or this end realized is, you and I are not talking about the same God. Yeah. We're not. When when the thing finished, I was looking at it to the eyes of my five year old daughter sitting next to me watching this. Is she freaked out? Is she scared? Does suddenly a boob fall out like in the previous Super Bowls? I I was actually quite impressed. Everybody was well covered. They were singing songs. Like, I wouldn't, yeah, I wouldn't agree with the message of the words, but I'm talking about the somebody who's just not just they're just sitting like this is background music. They're like, yeah. This got a nice little beat. It looked happy. They had little dancing sharks. I love the sharks. Those are adorable. Those are great. Ben and I are gonna get in suits. Yeah. It was just it was I thought it was great. It was just we look we we look ridiculous. We look like we look ridiculous, and it looks like we serve a very small god if these are the things that we cared about. Right? If we feel like the great foe of god is do this is this is the master plan. Now now granted, the great foe god is ultimately small in god. I I get it. I get it. Right? But, like, to even count as some sort of foe Mhmm. You would feel like you would come up with something better than this to dominate,

our belief in Jesus. Hey. Hey. Look at the technology there. Satan must be real and powerful. Mhmm. Like, I just I I I'm not seeing the connection, and I feel like it it very much diminishes who our God is for us to be freaking out about stuff like that. Yeah. We look stupid. We look stupid and we make like make God look small when that's the kind of crap that we're freaking out about. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. It made me sad when I was scrolling past it and I saw it and I looked at it and I decided that I wanted to read it because obviously the title kind of jumped out of me a little bit and then as I am reading through it, it just it made me sad because what that represents and I think you guys kind of hit it with there. You know, if if that's what,

you know, our Christian brothers and sisters are doing with their time, if that's what they've decided to to hold on to is is not, you know, not furthering the kingdom of God and is not truly speaking about about our God that we love and that loves us to other people and to to lost people. It's about arguing with each other about whether or not a a friggin beast that is literally just metal. There's no argument. And yeah. Can you call another Christian brother an idiot and just be alright with it? Well, thing is, this is Satan's domain. I I mean, I don't care what you look at. You will find pieces of Satan. Even in the church, you'll find us doing dumb things. You know? I mean, I've done dumb things. Hear. Hear. Yeah. I mean I do them constantly. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just look silly.

Alright. Well, I feel like I'm going watch the Super Bowl again next year probably. We'll be checking for the Illuminati. The Illuminati. The beast has been put in motion. Hey, okay. So maybe I'm opening up a can here that I shouldn't be. But can anyone give me a one and a half minute description on what that what is the Illuminati? What is the New World Order? What does it mean? I I I have no clue. I honestly don't know. They're just words.

Okay. Hold on. I'm I'm I'm trusting the Wikipedia for a quick answer. Oh, man. Here we go. The Illuminati, plural of Latin, illuminatus, meaning enlightened, is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an enlightenment era society founded on 05/01/1776. Conspiracy theorists have claimed that many notable people were or are members of the the, Illuminati. They were banned, by the Bavarian ruler Charles Theodore with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic church. The all seeing eye or eye of providence is a symbol that is commonly associated with the Illuminati.

You'll recognize a very similar symbol on the dollar bill. Okay. Here's the deal. I bought a KitKat bar with a dollar bill roughly four months ago. Devil worshiping. And I felt like there was a beast emerging. But really, that was just my belly rumbling for a Kit Kat bar. Rough times. 7.

Daniel seven. Drop the bite. I am hungry. 7. Alright. Anyway, stop that. Hey, listen here. If you're stop it. If you're one of those people, knock it off. You're you're you think that you're you're you're rooting out evil, and you think that you're revealing truth to people. And the truth is is you're making God look small, and you're making yourself look ignorant, and that you have no trust in Jesus. So just pull yourself together and knock it off. And what you're doing is you got your neighbor in the backyard drinking a beer and thinking, wonder if this Jesus thing is real going, oh, no. No. Yeah. No. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'll listen to Katy Perry and I'll go kiss a girl. Mhmm. I mean, we're losing the argument by being weird. Hey. Not like that example at all. On a on a positive note

on a positive note, Lenny Kravitz was also singing that I Kissed a Girl song, so and he could legitimately have done it. You redeemed it. I Kissed a Girl like I am a guy. Alright. Fair enough. Alright. You're listening to Life From Path. You make mistakes in life. Watching the Super Bowl halftime and coming across as if the devil is in it is is one of them. Listening to our show may be another, but not on the same scale. You can catch that. Look at our weekly clips. Go to lifefromthepath.org. Also, quick shout out to our sponsors, Bob Eisenhower with the Eisenhower team. If you go to eisenhowerteam.com, you can find more information, search for houses, and Bob's your guy to help you in your buying or selling of a home in this market. Hey. I I meet Mike and I were talking, think, last week or a couple weeks ago about refinancing. The rates are back down. They've dropped another point zero three points getting me back under 3% that I was looking for. I'm refinancing this week, boys, which means other rates are also positive. And so if you wanna buy or sell a house, Bob can tell you what to do with I your should do that. Can you refinance if you rent? Why? No. Because you don't have a loan. Well, that's that's too bad. How renegotiate your rent?

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Jesus be saying stuff. What's he been talking about? Hope help me out. Alright. So the setup for this, Jesus has been, going through a sermon. He's trying to describe to people what the kingdom of heaven is like. And one of the last comments that he makes to explain and illustrate it is apparently yeast. He says the kingdom of heaven is like leaven which a woman took, she puts into three measures of flour until the whole batch was

yeasty or leavened. So given that it was understood in his culture that yeast is very much a corruption agent, there's no way you can make unleavened bread when you've got flour that's had yeast in it, Why would Jesus use this to illustrate it? I mean, what's he talking about? Why why is the kingdom a symbol symbolic of corruption?

Any thoughts? Well, yes. He has used that same, he has that same example referring to the Pharisees. Mhmm. So I I Beware the yeast of the Pharisees. There were yeast of the Pharisees. Right? So Mhmm. So I I mean, I I that I suppose that would make sense in the in the light of that you've provided that example of how things can purvey and go through and,

I don't know, infiltrate whole product itself. But I suppose there's a positive connotation to these, so because it does actually, it changes the substance. Mhmm. It changes the substance a little bit. Right? Like it does get in evenly mixed. It does completely change your product though so that it becomes something different entirely than perhaps what you were expecting. And so to me that that seems like a pretty good example.

Which which which then I guess also causes me to think of the Pharisees yeast in a different light. If you're gonna give it those same type of qualities, it is also changing the product that you believe that you are going to get into something different than what your expectations are. So even people that are were trying pre Jesus, trying to follow Christ, or trying to follow, what God had for his people, the yeast of the Pharisees was infiltrating that and making it something that it was not supposed to be to be. And on the other side, Jesus is is is doing that and has the same pervasiveness, but is changing into something, that ultimately is is the product that you that you want. That would be that would be my reaction. Yeah. I suppose if you're trying to explain something, if you take the connotations out of it and just find the best example of what you're talking about, you can certainly use one that generally has a negative connotation, right? Like, so if I'm trying to say, look, we wanna spread the word here about whatever, like a virus. Viruses are known for, you know, spreading pretty well. And I mean, what else could you use there that could drop the same connotation of catching on fire, multiplying very fast and and and spreading quickly? Right? That's an excellent way to describe it regardless of how you feel about viruses.

So you so you think well, actually, we did we talk about that last week? We talked about treating treating the word of God like like we have the cooties. Who's I talking to with about that? I don't know. Oh, it's somebody else. Oh. It was another guy. No. No. Like, we were talking about radio program. No. No. I remember what James. No. We were talking about sometimes as as as people that follow Christ, we we we try to we protect ourselves by staying out of situation Mhmm. As if Satan owns the cooties. And if you get too close to it, like, sin and and Satan will infiltrate your life with his cootie behavior. But the truth is Jesus got the cooties, and his are better and stronger. And so where we shouldn't be hiding away in our houses hoping not to get to sin cooties, we should be Jesus cootie ing out everywhere Mhmm. And spreading that business. And, it's just a it's just an indication where, like, we act as if, we don't we don't have the yeast that that makes the better bread. And that,

the things that are going on around us, as opposed to protecting ourselves, we should be going out spreading the Jesus cooties. That that was the note of the conversation. And so I suppose cooties always generally has the the negative the negative thing. But, yeah, it was used positively in that regard. Like yeast. Yeast cooties. When I talk to you, I feel like I evangelize wrong. Well, pow. Like, I know how I've been doing it, and then I hear how you do it, and I think that's not how I do it at all. I don't do the cooties. Was just gonna say, the word of the Lord is like that with a man who has cooties. Do you want some? Thus saith. Hey, man. Yeah. Thus thus saith Benfus. Hey, man. Go spread your Jesus cooties. It's like, I don't remember that part of bible camp, man. Like Yeah. That ought to get the guy drinking the beer off the off the chair. I

didn't say you open with that line. Just walk up to a guy, hey, man. If it fits in the middle. That's right. You remember being in, like, third grade and talking about the cooties. Right? Let's talk about Jesus cooties. It's just like, oh, dude, Here's a t shirt. Come to our camp. It's circlecircle.dot. We can't get a cootie shot on this one. Like Jesus. He'll give you cooties. We'll pick you up in a bus. Creepy. Man. Do you wanna go to camp for, like, three weeks?

Can hang out on a mountain. Ministry. He can come get you. It's gonna be great. Alright. So if I understand you guys, then, Ben, with You don't. With with your first comment, you're you're talking about a transformation type of a Yeah. Type of a process in that, you know, the what the substance was before the yeast is involved is very is like a 180 degrees different than what it is after. Yeah. And then for Mike, you seemed like you're hammering on the, just the way it spreads and grows and just takes over. Like a little bit introduced will just wildflower wildflower grow. Yeah. Is unleavened bread all that they could eat? Or it wasn't that just for special times? It it was used for special times, but it it's kind of like, someone with a peanut allergy. They have a warning that says this product was

prepared in a kitchen or facility that may have had peanuts just because people are so allergic to it. So the same sort of a deal is that ladies in in Jesus' culture would often just avoid yeast in every possible way so that when those special times come around, their kitchen is still pure so they can prepare that bread. So they would they would try to avoid it even throughout the rest of the year. That was what I was thinking for the contamination part. Yeah. It was it's only contaminating for the feast of unleavened bread. Right. Mhmm. It has to be unleavened. Yeah. So during the other times of the out of the year, it's no longer unleavened bread. Not really clean, but, you know, it's it's more in that neutral territory. It's just once it gets into your kitchen, then it's kinda how do you say that your kitchen's clean now? Right. Yeah.

Alright. So oh, yeah. Any any further comments? I concur. I agree.

It did. Alright. Alright. Here's my question then. How's it live out then? If it's something that you introduce just a little bit of it and it'll take over, have you noticed that in your community? Have you noticed that in yourself? I think

Oh, that was all just no? Yeah. No. No commentary. No. Feel like I've tried that before and it failed. Alright. Think that not on my own part, but I mean obviously just coming from God, yeah, I've seen that. Just because talking about if it is something that's really small that you can introduce and it changes in a big way.

When it comes to what I've seen in in people that have changed around me and people who changed my community, I I could never say that I, like, did a lot in their lives or, like, I spent a lot of time talking with them or working with them or something like that. But, like, I've had conversations that that have gone off and have gone crazy ways. Like, I'll talk to one person and I run into them, you know, one month. And then I they come back three months later, and I haven't talked to them since. But stuff has changed so much, and that's and that's a total God thing. And I'm not saying it started from from where I was, but I barely even contributed. But something huge happened through God's power and through God working with that person.

And so, I think that that's that's more of a testament to to to God's power than than anything we can do just because the fact that it's not about the amount that we put in and it's not about the amount that we we push out, to people. It's the fact that, like, we throw anything in there and God can take that. God can run with it. God can change someone entirely. And I've seen that happen. Mike, you were a nope. Yeah. I mean, I'd really love to tell you a story of how that went down. But, like, I feel like I've I've spent, you know, some time talking to people about Jesus and and

in various different applications and they're like, yeah, no. I disagree with you. You disagree about what happens in my life? Yeah, I do. I'm confused. So me. I'm not saying it never worked. Well, you said no. That was your plain bold face answer was no. Yeah. But if it ever happened, that that answer is incorrect. In Jesus' example,

like you put the yeast to it, it's that it's done. It's a done deal. It happens. And I feel like I I feel like that's not, I'm I'm not saying Jesus' metaphor ain't true. I'm just saying the way that I'm that the to answer the question that you've asked, I would say, I don't find that to be a 100% true. I don't know. I think yeast is a slow slow move it's a slow moving yeast. Right? It's it's it's a conversation here. It's a it's a discussion over there. And you look back over five years and go, woah. Look what look what has happened. You know, I don't think it's like you you throw out a, hey, Jesus, and then next week, 17 people come up to find out more about Jesus. It's it's it's very slow, if that makes sense. I mean, I I looked out at, like, a church a couple weeks ago, and I thought, I don't know half the people here. Like, I don't know where they came from. I don't know I was like, what happened? I don't know. People have friends who have friends who have friends who have friends. Hey. Check out Jesus. You know? And and there's

some type of yeast thing happening. I I don't I can't explain it. I don't know. I mean, that's that's like a church attendance, which I realized we're talking bigger, god god's kingdom and and a step further, becoming a follower. But but that's where it all it's part of the yeast. Think it's part of the spreading. They they come and they gather and they find about Jesus and then they kinda jump on board. I feel like you're putting a shine on it. That's like one guy out of 50, though. Right? Like, maybe maybe the yeast is spreading and maybe it's catching it's catching on, but it's not to every person that you dropped it on. Right? So, like, I would probably I mean, my success rate of getting people to open up and and and accept a relationship with Jesus Christ is way worse than is than my failure. Well, so I I don't know if you're I don't if you're thinking of that correctly, though. Like, when when you're talking thinking of the context of of of dough and yeast and stuff and you make you're still you're still making a piece of bread, not a piece of bread that it covers the entire world and feeds everybody. You're just a little piece or piece of bread. Still an output. Right? There's still there's still, we we was talking about it, but it's it's pervading the the thing that existed. And then once the influence of it takes hold or, and starts to get spread around it changes the basic nature of what it is. It doesn't even necessarily mean it's multiplying.

Right? Because like your piece of dough is still your piece of dough. You're talking about changing the basic nature of what it is. Multiplication I think you start getting into questions about how Jesus describes the parables of the sower. Right? Like like there are Yeah, okay. Instances of how things repeat. But like, it's probably not the right thing to think that because you don't see things, you know, there are when it's proper soil and the seeds are sown, you you see, you know, a 110 times, a 100 times what you're supposed to get. But, like, that requires proper soil. That doesn't necessarily have much to do with seed thrower at times. So so, basically, you're more talking about was once the yeast is in there, that's when it changes the bread. Just because a guy walked by on the street with a bag of yeast doesn't necessarily mean that things are gonna be changing for everybody in the building. Yeah. It's not a contagion or an amoeba. Right? Like, it's just I I mean, I framed it as a virus, which means that the way I described it is not gonna work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't I don't think that's the context of what she's talking about. I think it has more has to do with the fundamental change of the substance itself,

and it pervades and it becomes something completely different or or not but different from what it be started as. And it means the whole thing is that way. And think think of the perspective that Jesus might be talking about here is is you're talking about look at the nature of God's people prior to him. And then if his if his kingdom is getting into that that same group of God's people and they're coming out of it, although cut from the same basic elements with with this this element of Jesus and this this kingdom of God, you now have to have something completely different, but the whole thing has changed. The entirety of God's people is changed. This is why you get to start when we're talking about Israel, And and this is the argument that Paul makes in in Romans and Galatians is why Israel isn't isn't Israel. It's it's all people that are that are enveloped into this kingdom of God. Right? The basic thing has changed. We're calling it the same thing, but the thing has changed itself. And I think I think that's more probably what it's pointing to than it is some ability to, like, grab a bunch of stuff and, like, you know, slowly blob itself out into something that takes over the world.

There are other things that speak to how his kingdom grows, but I think this is more to how God's people have changed, and and and how it pervades that whole substance. You don't get to be half unleavened and half leavened bread. Like, it it's simply with that ingredient introduced, things have changed. I think that's what it's pointing to. I've changed my asserted yes then. Take that. Take that, Buva. No contention. Sorry. I needed a an animosity on the other side, and you're my closest man. That's fine. And have the coolest name. Hey. So you're you're my automatic animosity.

Good to see you. Okay. Thanks for being on the boobah team. I that you've interpreted that wrong, though. I didn't I didn't join the boobah team. I know. I just I just try and make things seem like they're good to me. That's why you saw such a positive spin on the halftime show when everyone else I did. I was like, yeah, man. Katy Perry. Everyone else knows. I didn't I didn't hear Bruno Mars scream Illuminati now. I also did not. Feel like I'm gonna have to to Google the half. I'm gonna YouTube that over and over again until That I hear means the the psychos win. You can't look at it. You have to put a six week moratorium on looking up any references they may have made. Because if you were checking out on YouTube,

like, they've they've they've partially won. They've corrupted your mind. Could you think there might be something to that? And when you're gonna prove them wrong, you're arguing with a crazy person. It's a valid point. That's also very unhealthy. Six week I'm on this radio show, man. What if he did say it? I mean, that didn't really mean anything. Right? Just means he did. Just beware the yeast of the crazies. That's all. Yeah. Beware the yeast of the crazies. There's all kinds of people giving out yeast. Hey.

Never mind. Scratch that. It was a random thought about Jesus being part of Illuminati, but I let it go. Feel like there might be an angle there, but I let me let it stew. Let it stew for a to research that. I'm gonna have to take a look. Luckily, the the Internets are at my fingertips. Right. We certainly get more website traffic. Hey. I'm gonna start keywording everything with the word Illuminati on this. Local radio show talks about Jesus possibly being a part of Illuminati. They forget the last part, which is after twenty minutes of discussion, no. Three and a half minutes later, all of them disagreed. I did a tattoo of the Illuminati. Really? That Illuminati on this guy's arm. It was an ambergram so it set it both ways. It set it right side up and upside down. Yeah.

And I did the whole time. I just kept thinking, you know who I know is not in the Illuminati? This guy. Because if you're in it, you're not going to get a giant tattoo on your arm. I'm being enlightened.

Just are are right out of the gate. It's a disqualifier. Right. Right. Like wearing a CIA t shirt or something. Hi. I'm agent Ingeldinger. Like, I'm undercover. That guy's legit. Alright. Alright. Hey. I came across this article about 10 things you can't say while following Jesus. I'm gonna hit you with a couple and see what your instant reactions are. Alright? Okay.

Number one, there are no atheists in a foxhole. There are no atheists in a foxhole. So so, a, what are what are they intending to say? Everyone who's facing their mortality believes in God. Yes. Yes. So why can't, this guy says we should, you can't say that while following Jesus. Why not? What the heck ever? What's not true? Who cares about it so much? I'm

confused by why he's even written this article. He says so here's here's what he said. He said, there are atheists in church, and you honestly think there are no atheists in foxholes. And this actually goes back to a comment to something that Dan said. And this this has stuck with me. And frankly, Dan, I think you said this within, like, the first six months of us, on the radio program, but you were talking about being a a a hospice chaplain. Chaplain. Yeah. And you said people people die like they lived. Yeah. Yeah. And so, like, when we say there are no atheists in foxholes, it seems to be directly opposite of what Dan Hudson has experiences. I I think that's like, boy, I might die. So then they're like, well, I better be get some fire insurance. I'll be a Jesus man. But people who really know they're dying, they tend to not they they don't suddenly change. The my experience. Yeah. Yeah. And I I think sometimes the the reason he's brought this up is like this can be harming is that we we provide this as a source of comfort. Like, oh, oh, my my my brother Chuck is is really on the outs. He's not feeling well. He's he's always had issues with Jesus, and our set is comfort as well. Mabel, there's no atheist in foxholes. Everyone everyone comes to terms with that. Here's the deal. I've having this conversation a lot with my wife. I don't know that our experience is universal. Like, people do weird stuff. There think of a lot of these the church interactions that we're running into, and you're like, I've never seen anybody do that. There are people doing that.

So are they trying to suggest that everyone will come to a deathbed confession and so everyone's gonna get in? Is that what they're trying That's what the phrase there are no atheists on foxholes is. He's saying we can't we we can't say that. That's stupid. Okay. Good. I'll chuck it out of my vocabulary. Okay. Mike's out. No problem. Mike's out. It's kinda like you're not a legitimate atheist. You're just angry at God. When it comes right down to it, you'll have to believe if you know you're gonna die. It's kinda what they're saying. Does it matter either way? You'll come to my side. I mean, there's no such thing as a legit atheist. Right? And so, like, even if you claim to be an atheist and you are just angry at God, you got problems either way. Right? Does it really matter? Thought. He also number five is love the sinner, hate the sin. Says it's gotta go. What are your thoughts on that phrase, Mike?

I don't I don't know that I've said something like that. I mean I said, what are your thoughts on that phrase? Not your personal biography about how often you say it. Well, I mean, if I believed in it, I'd chuck it out. Snark pause. Dave Herrick, what are your thoughts? I don't use it. I'm not sure why. Hey. Herrick gave his biography. Why aren't you yelling at him? Because he's much softer about it. You were a real beast about that last one for no reason. You've got a glitter on your forehead. I have ladies at my house. Oh, yeah. That makes a lot sense. So his advocation here was, period. Just love the sinner, period. He says after that, it's a it's a that's that's a them and god issue, not an our and god issue. What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, part of sometimes,

presenting Jesus is is a lead a call to repentance, but I'd like to know what his bad what what his what's his reasoning of, like, just accept everybody, total tolerance? Is that the idea? Or is it, just just quit harping on the sin and just love the dude? I think his point is that, like, it's not ours it's they're not sending in it's not our sin to hate. Yeah. Like, it's not like it's God's sin to hate. And and that and if the truth is that God hates it, fine. But it's not ours to hate. Like Can I have a of that? If it's if it's we love the sinner, God hates the sin. Like, actually, God God is true for both. We're probably on the only thing we can actually control is the number one. It's God's sin to hate. I think that's his point. Because we've already kinda demeaned them by thinking, oh, you're a sinner. Yeah. Let me help you. But I I feel like you're kinda splitting hairs because sin should turn your stomach. Yeah. And God hates it. So the difference between it turning my stomach and me hating it is what?

Right. I mean, don't you generally like, I mean, think of the people in your life that are that are engrossed in some some stuff and and like you hate that on their behalf. You hate that sin that's grappled. Yeah. Right? Like, I mean Anyway, I I I don't know. I think that phrase is made for people who tend to hate the sinner. And so they came up with that phrase, no, no, just hate the sin, not the sinner You mean make them feel better. I can still hate? Yeah. I can still hate, but I have to love this guy. Like, that's what it's the concession for that guy who really wants to hate something. And we're just trying to redirect him for a little bit. Because honestly, yeah. We're just called to love the person Mhmm. And let let everything else happen. It would and and rightfully so, think it would include,

hating the things that that's destroying them. Yeah. Like, that seems completely reasonable. Yeah. But you're right. That phrase seems more as a consolation for a guy who's got some anger issues in his life and really wants to be pissed. And we we're just trying to give him a phrase that will make him feel better about his anger. That's exactly how I've used it. Sad. I've used it. I've used it. Alright. I had to say it. I had Boob had to give his biography. Can we get some violin music? Guys know who's gonna have I'm a prideful beast. Alright? Hate the sin, not the sinner. But I've actually used that a lot. Like, it was a long time. I haven't used it any within the last year, honestly. But I used to use it from the whole perspective of, you know, calling out people that that seemed like they had a lot of hate for people. And I'm like, hey, man. You gotta you gotta hate sin. Love sinner. Love sinner. I mean, that's that's all it is. You can hate that sin. And it was a total cop out. It's because I did not know how to explain the reasoning behind it. I I had no way to say, you know, it it's not your job to be the ultimate judge. Yes. You should hate sin. Yes. You should,

turn away from it entirely and all this different stuff. But I did not know how to explain that to someone who was just full of anger towards somebody for something that they were doing. And it's a weird distinction. Right? Because, like, if we could accept the fact that everyone is a sinner, calling saying love the sinner is a pretty nondistinct. Right? It's love people. There you go. Love people. Hey. I'm really upset this guy for such and such, love people. The fact that he's a sinner is an irrelevant distinction in our broad scheme of how we understand life. Okay. Alright. I'm gonna do one more before Mike gets upset. Number eight. I can't take coverages like this. I just don't know what to say. I can't wait. I I I almost wanna guess what the reaction's gonna be. Buva's life has changed because of the number that last one. He'll never open his mouth wildly again. What did I didn't know that we were in agreement that you can't use it. No, Mike. You're still on board with it? I don't really I don't understand what the problem is either way. Mike, you're not good for these kind of conversations. Look, the person that's sinning, check. Got it. Don't like the thing that's ruining their life and cause causing trouble? Check. What's the problem?

Do you think people use it incorrectly? I that's not my we're talking about the phrase itself. Whether people run with it and and beating people over the head with it, that's not what we're talking about. Isn't the article 10 things we should stop doing? Yeah. But I mean, if you could use it correctly, don't see what the problem is. So basically, Mike is defending the poor unfortunate phrase because people have hijacked it. Yeah. How dare you use this phrase incorrectly? Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Good. I love you, Mike, but I hate what you say. It's redeemable if it was used under different circumstances. I mean, so so it's just about everything. Right? I mean, you can use anything for the glory of God, or you can use anything to stab a guy in the face. It just depends on how you use it. Just like hate to say love is there. How about number eight? The God never gives us more than we can handle. You ever said that one? God never gives us more than we can handle.

It drives me nuts. That phrase drives me bonkers. Just because I feel like that's another one of those just really crappy cop out things to say to somebody. A platitude? So the whole, you know, I'm going through a really rough time in my life, and you have no natural empathy for me, so your entire situation that you're gonna say to me is, well, you know, God never gives us more than we can handle. Why? Why wouldn't That is incorrect. Yeah. That's completely incorrect. He gives us a lot more than we can handle so that we run to him. Yeah. Yeah. Like, is our rock. We're not our own rock. What kind of self sufficient society

are you trying to make and and paint right now? I think the ultimate implication of that saying is that we're all our own God. I mean, like you're you're the center of your own universe. Yeah. And you can handle everything that's going on around you. I mean You're just couching it as Yeah. You don't At least God has done that. Right. And, well, I'll that God did that for me. He created this thing for me. This God here. Right. I mean, that's that's what it's that's what is always implied to me. Yeah. It's running to the independence that you don't have.

The whole, you know, God never gives you anything more than you can handle because he gave you a preset set of skills and emotions and strengths that you're gonna be able to play off for all of your life. And he set it all out for you to play off of that. No, he hasn't. No. He has said it so that you will be destroyed constantly. Like, your your character will get tested. You will grow through the trials that you go through. You should expect that stuff. Stop playing it off like you're strong enough to handle it. Run to God because he gives you that stuff for you to run to him. Here's the deal, like, think of think of every one of the post Judas disciples who who died violently

for following Christ. And just as they're kinda nailing Peter upside down, you're like, hey, man. God God never gives you more than you can handle. Peter. He goes, this hurts a lot. You can handle it. Hey. God sure hurts. You're fine. Hey. Hey. Hang tight, polycarp. All things are for a reason. And Don't be a sissy. I'm just Don't be a sissy. Like, mean, I can't like, I get it. Right? Like, the the point the point is to try to give you comfort that said it's like a God's got this type of thought. Yes. It just moves the focus from God onto you. And the truth is is, like, if you

if you trust God, God's got this. Could be could be you on the tree. Like it could be someone setting fire to you. And so, like, if that is a consolation to you, then you understand God correctly. If it is not a consolation to you, no matter of I'm strong enough to handle this because God has prepared me, is gonna change that perspective between you and the Lord. But I think they're just misusing the the scripture about temptation that God won't give you more than than, you know, you can you can conquer this. You know, he's getting you a door out here. And they're like, well, hey, that's true with the trials too. You know, we just kinda Not true. To that too. You know, I think true. That might be the writ of it. I don't know. So really you should change the phrase to God won't give you more than he can handle. Yeah. And then we're fine. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. What God does as he pleases live your life. That's what I like. That's kind of I like to use that phrase. Gotta do as he pleases. You can put it down to love Jesus. Alright? That's it.

Okay. Alright. Hold on. You got any more of these stupid phrases, babe? Yeah. On. Hold on a second. He's got, like Like, you're so angry at this article. You were so angry at this article. I just seriously. I mean, this is how the man spend his time. Here's here's the you niche phrases that the Christian shouldn't use. Well, this is well worth your time writing. Hey. Love the author. Hate his sin. Hate the article. Love the author. This guy's got a bunch of them. He's got 10 things you can't do at Christmas by following Jesus. Great. He spent his whole life doing this. This is his job.

Hold on. I'm I'm interested in this one. Let's see. Things you can't do. His his office is probably covered in post it notes. I came over this. He'd be up. I made another list. You think they're based off his own experiences like he did them and like, man, should have done that. I really shouldn't have done that. I said that hate the sinners. Hate the sinners. No. I think he watches other people do it. I'm like, oh, you shouldn't do that. I'm gonna write that on a Live vicariously through you and make a list. He writes it down. Shouldn't judge. You're doing wrong. Love you.

I said number, number five is, things, 10 things you can't do at Christmas while following Jesus. Number five is forget those without presents. If you have two coats, give one away. In announcing the coming of Jesus, John the Baptist told us what God was asking of us. Coats were just an example of placeholder, if you will. If you have two Christmas presents, give one away. How's that work? What do we I I mean, is he just drawing a line around the house and, you know, don't look outside the house? Or Yeah. Or The neighborhood? The city? Hey, man. State country. Feel like not everybody's gonna have the same size shirt as me. I don't think homeless guy was getting my presents away, and I don't even know what's in there my dumbbells came in a set.

I I feel like that's the white elephant kind of mentality. Went away. I I got more than two presents. I'm gonna go ahead and give the shake weight to that guy. My mom used to do that crap. Like, Ben and I were twins growing up. Right? And so she would buy two dumbbells and give one one to Ben and give the other one to me. That's awesome. Here you go, guys. I had a had a beastly left arm. Mike had a massive run. Here's one pair of socks for you. Coming. Arm wrestling was imbalanced. No. Left hand again. That's very shrewd. I didn't know the difference, anyway. So two shame off. Well, look. We both got one. Let's see. Number three was get mad about happy holidays. On a related note, you know what holiday is short for. Right? Holy day. Do you really have a problem with people calling Christmas a holy day? Buva.

I just felt like I've devoted no time to the things he's talking about. That's all. That's all I'm saying. Maybe his nickname is short for a holy day. He's saying it's short for the same amount of letters, and they just switched an I to a or a y to an I. It is where their etymology comes from. Yeah. Yeah. Holy day. I didn't know that. Holy day. Yeah. Oh, come on. Yeah. I'm glad I learned that. I did not know that. But that's the that's the sound it out. Yeah. July is a holiday. I don't know if that's a holiday. Mean, You know, it's America.

They secularized it. Right. America. I just respond by Merry Christmas. Yeah. Like, when somebody says, happy holidays, whatever, seasons, greetings, Merry Christmas. I celebrate Christmas. I don't know what you celebrate, but, you know, I'm not pushing anything on you. Spreading you. I'm just saying. This is what I say. Right. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Don't put that god on me. Don't you put that god on me. I said one statement, man. Literally, I'm not trying to win you over to god by saying merry Christmas. We're gonna talk a little bit more into your life than that. Merry Christmas. Hey, man. Leave me alone. Number two was okay. I I I got a good story on this one. Think that it is actually Jesus' birthday. You can't do that till while following Jesus. So, like, I was talking to my I was talking to my oldest daughter,

and she's trying to find ways. She's gotten very interested over the last three weeks, of trying to to find ways to influence people for Jesus, some friends of hers. And so and I I'm afraid she's she's gonna be a fundy. Like like, well, when they come here, we should read bible stories. And I said, sweetheart, I'm glad to read bible stories,

but it may not have the impact you're looking for. Right? Like, if they're not I bible stories are extremely interesting to me because I love Jesus and wanna hear about them. So I said, like, that that's part of why the things what we pray for tonight is, like, help people to see Jesus in the things that in the way that we're living our life and, for us to take opportunities to be able to share truth about Jesus with them. But like, it's unlikely. It's not gonna be a magic trick. You're not just gonna be like, you know, put them in a shirt that says Jesus on or something like that. It's not it doesn't work that way. So anyway, she's gotten very interested. And so after I kinda told her about, you know, here's here's kinda here's kinda how you should think about it, she goes, oh, well, now I kinda feel like did I push it on somebody? I said, well, what why? What did you do? And she said, well, they were we were at school, and I said they were saying, well, what are your what's your favorite things about this, about this time of year? And she goes, it's Jesus' birthday.

And then she said she said, the thing is is, like, as the class went around, you had to repeat everything everybody else said. So she goes, so everyone had to say it because I said it. Was that wrong? I said, sweetheart, no. I said I said, you live your life and you always you always say things that are true. And, like, she goes, do do you think I made anybody uncomfortable with that answer? I said, if it is a true answer for you, it is the right answer. And that is what you should always say. Like, I will never say something that I feel like is untrue or back away from what I believe or what I think, because I think someone will make it uncomfortable. The point though is is that you wanna show people how God loves them and how how you love them. And so you can't do that if you are like saying you know, if you hold them down on the playground and say say you love Jesus or you get a punch to the face.

That isn't gonna change people's lives. And shit so I said I said, no. There's no you shouldn't feel bad about that at all, baby. That's that's true for you, and that's then that's awesome. And don't ever feel like I'm asking you just to not tell the truth about how you feel or what you believe. But just just recognize is that, like, we want we want people actually to see Jesus. And sometimes if we just go about it trying to get them to say a certain thing or, like, make sure that we're we're reading a bible when they walk in the room or something, like, that won't those things don't really actually help people connect to Jesus. And I think she's getting it. Like, she's eight, so we're we're working through it. But it's been it was real interesting because where she thought that she might have been pushy about Christ for having said she enjoyed that his birthday was in this in this time of the year. It's just a it's a really interesting time to to to have those kind of conversations with your kids of where, like, these are distinctions sometimes I'm struggling with. We're like, used to take my, like, during the day, I worked I worked like a corporate job.

And I generally bring my Bible with me because I was reading over lunch and stuff. I can read on my phone, but I prefer to read the book if I have the chance to bring the book with me. And it just sits out of my desk. And there was a time where I looked at it and I thought, it it felt like a little cheesy, pushy, like, just want people to know that I have the Bible. But, like, that was not my intention at all. And so I thought, this is what I do. I carry the Bible with me. I read my Bible. It it stays here. I'm not really that concerned about the perception, even though there might be a guy three rows down who's doing the exact same thing for a completely different reason than I am. And I thought, you know, this is I'm not gonna stop living my life for Christ in this way simply because I think someone might feel like I'm trying to give them the shine on. However, I'll be honest with you. Having that been the case, I get a I get away with a lot more Jesus types discussions and language, at my workplace, because they have a base level assumption that it might come out of my mouth. Like, it's not a shock to say, oh, I didn't had no idea Ben was gonna say something like that. It's basically assumed. And so

I I don't I get much less pushback than I think some other people do because, it's just more it's readily believable that I'm going to say something like that at any given time. So anyway, I mean, I think we there's no reason to say that it's actually Jesus' birthday. I don't think we have to give it completely for the children if they wanna enjoy that. But alright. Alright. Anyway, that's hold on. Let me just make sure he doesn't have any more sweet lists to see in his thing. Mike loves him.

Maybe this is what y'all think about all the time. I don't know. I just can't nothing he said. I'm like, man, good. He straightened that out for me. Well, so let let maybe everything about this, Mike. Let's let's say, like, you're not thinking about it. But, I mean, the man obviously continues to well, I guess it doesn't take anything to run a blog. Nope. But, I mean, he's got quite a few comments on some of these things. People are engaging in this type of thing. It's it's the type of question the church is dealing with. And maybe the the the root question is, these are stupid things that we're dealing with, which is probably accurate. You know what the definition of a circle jerk is? It's where you get one guy ramming around in a circle doing nothing and you invite 15 other dudes in there and then they're just a bunch of people walking around in a circle doing absolutely nothing. That's a that's a offensive phrase, Mike. No, it ain't. I'm not sure that's the definition. That's not no. That's not at all what that is. No. Mike, thank you. Yeah, is. No. It's gonna it's gonna have to wait till the podcast. Alright. That's what we're gonna have to talk about. We'll handle that at the podcast. Alright. Yeah. Change your ways. Alright. Alright. Anyway, you about ready over there? Yeah. Hold on, man. I got something cool. I never thought that phrase would come out. Hey. I If you're listening, I can't hear Yeah. Not that I brought up some stuff that was mildly inappropriate for the Christian radio station, but Mike has jumped over the hurdle. To anyone who heard that, we apologize for it, Mike. I'm not sure I have any idea what y'all are talking about, but I don't either. We'll hit an that's probably a good thing. Will get dirty pictures when I Google this? Do not Google that. We'll hit the podcast. Don't do it. Go ahead, man. Dear life from the path.

I have a problem saying inappropriate things on the radio, apparently. I have a problem with blushing whenever I'm the center of a techie. I do too now. Even if with just one other person, my face goes bright red. This even happens when I'm not feeling embarrassed. I've learned to cope with the feeling of my face flushing. What I'm having trouble with is people's comments about why my face is so red. I've never been able to come up with a good response. Telling that I'm not really embarrassed is met with skepticism. Please help. Oh, that is tough.

That is tough. I've met a few people like that who had a naturally red face, you just assumed they were reacting to their surroundings until you saw them a second time. Which would generally you'd assume the problem is primarily with strangers, right? Because like once you meet a guy the second time he's got a red face, you can't assume he's Well, probably she is blushing though too. I mean, it's like her their face is noticeably darkening. So she's That's what that's what people are reacting to. So she's not there all She's like that all the time. She's got a pink complexion. Oh, It's like because she feels herself flushing. Oh, she's pale and she's turning red. Right. Yeah. I used to do that when I was like a kid. Like, especially when talking to adults. So I don't know if I was, I don't intimidated or embarrassed or something. Also I could feel it. I could feel my face just warming up. And I'm like, I look at the mirror and I'm all red. I'm like, I don't there was nothing to be embarrassed of. You know? I was just like, I just like suddenly turned red, you know? And So she's just looking for some something kinda witty that sort of disarms the situation.

I would make up a crazy medical name for it. I have this. And then you say, well, I've got beets disease. Beets.

I lost my piece. What's for dinner? I've got tomato face. I like, I don't know. I I I've got tomato face. Yeah. That'll work. Yeah. I I just thought of a really weird There's nothing you can do about it. You just just go with it. I mean, you just say I mean, I wouldn't even bring it up. Just It is annoying,

though, when, like, you've done that and they're and they're look they look at another person, be like, look, he's getting embarrassed. Like, alright. What? I've had people do that to me. They're like, sorry. I really don't feel embarrassed, but I don't know what's going on. You can't say that. I would say that. You'll just sound childish. You're Yeah. Pretty sound like you're like you're defensive. Yeah. I mean Yeah. You gotta just let it go. Yeah. You you should say, oh, shucks and do a big old hand movement and act like you've been totally caught. Oh, shucks. Yeah. That's what you do. Tomato face strikes again. Yeah. Just just play into it. Otherwise Yeah. Was thinking of that joke I had about you, but I'm not gonna say it out loud because it's embarrassing. That's probably not gonna work. That's a real stare. Yeah. No. Because everyone's gonna pry you for it. Bazinga. Yeah. Segler's advice is, my advice is to be upfront and tell the question questioner that you don't know why it happens, but you're not embarrassed. As you already know, blushing can happen if someone suffers from social phobia.

In cases like that, counseling and support groups can help. However, because you find it happening when you are not pressured or embarrassed, discuss it discuss it with your physician to be sure that it isn't an underlying physical problem. Yeah. That's that's dead on advice. Here's the problem. Here's it in extreme form. This is probably you seek help. Perhaps you have a medical problem. Yeah. Like tomato face. Absolutely. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. Dear life from the path. A few years ago, my husband and I had problems. Our marriage was going downhill, but we have recently managed to work things out. My problem is I sounded off to my mom's, who had never held, who had never held him in very high esteem to begin with. She told him she never wanted to see him again. She has finally accepted that we are a package deal, and she's happy that things are working out. She lives far away, so I don't see her often, but I'd like to pay a visit with my husband and children. When I approached my husband with the idea of seeing mom, he told me that a few years ago, she had sent him an email telling him she didn't like him. He justif justifiably he's he's justifiably uncomfortable with going to see her. My husband is contemplating going for my sake, but I don't wanna add any stress to the situation. Should I talk to my mom about it and ask her to apologize? Or should I just let things go? I don't like the idea of taking my kids and not my husband, and mom wants to see her grandchildren. Okay.

Here's the I have two steps. One, you talk to your mom and you tell her reconcile. Two, you go visit her without the husband and the kids to make sure things are straight. And then I think you could then then I think you take the family as long as everything's on the up and up. Really? Yeah. Why would I mean, I would take it upon, you know, myself be like, I didn't really have the right to spout off to you about this. Yeah. Like, I made this situation worse than it needed to be. I created this bad feeling in you and now I just want to reconcile it. You need to reach out to him because he's not going to reach out to you. You attacked him and you know, you took what I what I said and made him feel bad about it. Like I shouldn't have shared it with you. You shouldn't have shared it with him. Now the whole situation is out of control. Yeah. Like, you and I need to iron this out so that we can all

coexist together. Yeah. Yeah. Really, worst thing a a child an adult child can do is talk to their parent about their spouse because their spouse is already a little bit suspicious anyway. You know? Always. They're not good enough for my child. You know? And and all of a sudden, it's like, yeah. See? You know? So it doesn't take much to take a parent over the top. I'm assuming. I haven't gotten to that stage yet, but, they they will always side usually with with with their own child. So, yeah, you can't share that kind of stuff. I realize it's too late now, but I'd go with what you guys said. I mean, you gotta reconcile, have the conversation, everybody apologize. It's gonna be awkward, but then move on. You you got the rest of your life together. I mean, you gotta fix it. You can't just ignore it. Yeah. Just have an elephant in the room kind of weekend and then Yeah. Next time, next year it'll be Alright. We're silly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Grandma, figure out something that you like about him. I I don't care what, but you're gonna learn to like him. Yeah. So Yeah. To be honest, you you you were reaching out in anger because you thought you hurt my daughter, and I thought you hurt my daughter. I'm really sorry. I hurt you too. Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, I I like, that's even

viable. Right? That's even a justifiable thing to say, my daughter was hurt. She she had said some things to me, and I I naturally, you know, wish to defend her. I I was upset because I believe how you treated her. Like, if I'm on the other side of that, I at least get that. Mhmm. And so, you know, I may not have appreciated what she have said. I may not appreciate what she had done. But like, I can't completely misunderstand the thought of a mother attempting to defend their child in the way that I would do for my own children. Yeah. Plus, he's got children. You can be like this. Imagine in ten years, your daughter comes to you and says

these things about his spouse. What are you going to feel about that person? Like, it's a normal reaction. Reaction. Obviously, the husband and wife have said some things they both regretted because they were in trouble. Yeah. I mean Yeah. Right. So they can get through this. They can't. Secular says, by all means, speak privately to your mother about this. If she could smooth things over by explaining to your husband that when she sent the email, she was a mother bear defending her cub, it may make the visit less uncomfortable for your husband. Fences need bending here, and it will take cooperation on everyone's part. In the future, I hope you will resolve your marital problems like the adult you are and not go running to your mother. But

kind of a real sass at the end there. See, that's true, isn't it? It seems right, though. Alright. Hey. You've been listening to live from the path. Thanks for hanging out with us. If you're on the truth network, we do appreciate you listening to the show, but we're gonna have to let you go. If you're on the podcast, we'll be right back with you. Thanks for listening to Live From The Path. That's no joke, don't you, Mike?

Mike, I'm sorry. Mike, what you've said is disgusting. That is disgusting and awful on all the time. Didn't know until I googled it. Did you Google it? We

told you not to. I already did it. Was awesome. Yeah. Just read the Urban Dictionary. Just just the description. I didn't get people I didn't look at any pictures. Yeah. You don't you don't want to. I wanna do pictures. I've been using that phrase all the time. Oh my god. Here. Mike, I thought it I thought it was like It's like a homosexual I thought it was literally just a way to explain a bunch of people wasting time. No. No. No. It's a very specific way of wasting Jerk has a sexual act, generally a bunch of fellas in a circle. Circle is in like a group of doing it. I've used that in mixed company. We are a depraved society. Alright? It's disgusting. I mean, bold. Been using I that changed you. We're I I didn't wanna ask you. I don't even imagine how you go, hey, guys. This is a great idea. How how do you even yeah. It doesn't matter. Alright. Can talk about the initiation. Anyway, Mike. Yeah. I yeah. I'd be real careful to use that phrase just about everywhere. I thought it meant a good way to to explain a conglomeration of people doing nothing. That's a very big mistake on my mind. Well,

should I should be a bit Actually, so people do use it that way because it basically it it implies that you're not accomplishing anything. Nothing is being accomplished. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's the connotation. But that's the Right. Right. It's not a couple of dudes. It's Well, god, this is one of the days you're glad you're not me. Because that's gonna be quite embarrassing for me in the future. Like, someday, I'm I'm literally gonna compile all of the random situations that I found either you and I in that is just you being so socially just awkward or awful in general. Here's the deal. Just how you pointed out, I feel completely fine with it.

And it doesn't bother me. That's why we have to go 10 things Christian should stop saying. I know we're going go through the whole list. I'm gonna I'm gonna request that guy make a new list that is 10 things Mike Fu should not say on air. Say say what is Give me an example of what he says. Well That's number one. We can't. Alright. Here we go. One more. Oh, no. That is very disappointing on my end. Here we go.

Your life from the past. Have a 20 year old woman I heard. Who works in an office with people who are in their thirties and older. I'm nice to everyone and treat them equally. Many of my coworkers have children who are about my age. I take my job seriously and carry myself with respect. Lately, one of my male coworkers seems to be getting a little too nice with me. He brings me treats in the mornings and sometimes pays for my lunch. Sometimes he gives me these uncomfortable backpats and sometimes even on my lower back. He is married with two kids. I've been turning down the breakfast and lunch offers, but he still seems to want me around. I'm not sure how to make these things stop. I don't want to get any supervisor involved because I don't want to jeopardize anyone's job. Please help me. Say stop it. Yeah. Tell

Approach him straight up. I I'm Yeah. I'm not comfortable with the direction that this is going. Yeah. Back off. I don't wanna be involved. Guys don't take hints. Yeah. Yeah. He's probably kind of a sleazy anyway. He doesn't by the way that he's acting right. So he's gonna be like, look. Didn't mean anything. Yeah. Well, good. I did. It's fine. Make your message clear. Yeah. As long as you clarify, like, your line in the sand, like, the treats make me uncomfortable. The invitations to meals make me uncomfortable. Take your wife, you know? Yeah. Like, turn it around and be like, you got a wife and kids. You're

ten or twenty years older than me. You're old enough to be my creepy uncle. Stop acting like Yeah. Both of my hemispheres are off limits. Go home. Right. Yeah. Don't yeah. Well, and certainly the lower back pats, you know. Mean, that's the gropey touching thing, that definitely is, he's he's wanting that to be reciprocated. Yeah. So like you don't accidentally pat pat somebody's back in a way that makes them feel creeped out. Yeah. Yeah. Man, dudes are just creepy. Seriously, like, I mean, can he not see what he what he is, what he's doing? Oh, no. I'm sure he He knows. Yeah. He knows exactly what's going on. He's just, know, crap. He's hoping that she's amenable or

Okay. This is since we're on the podcast, so I can say this. Yeah. Go ahead. We I have a good friend who years ago worked at a place, whatever office, and and had a male she's it was a girl and and a male supervisor would come and rub his front on her hands and stuff. I mean, like What? His front. You know? And just yeah. And and this was like before it was cool to say, hey, sexual harassment and stuff. And it was it was bad. It was just like nasty. And and then her husband had to come to the office one day and go, yeah. This isn't happening anymore. Holy I can't even I can't that's How could you even be so bold? I can't even look a woman in the eye and be like, hey. You look nice today. Yeah. Nice shoes. That's a good thing. Yeah. Stay like that. Seriously. I don't there's some bold fellows out there. Man, that's just gross. The man legal was an outrageous item. To the extent that, like, he's like, not only I thought of this, and this is gonna be fine. Yeah. I'm just gonna do this.

Holy cats. Okay. Here's a secular's advice. The next time this man puts his hands on you tell him to stop because it makes you uncomfortable. Say it in a firm, clearly audible tone that can be overheard by anyone close by. Then document the incident with date and time. This should stop him. However, if he continues, you must immediately discuss the problem with the supervisor. Yeah. That sounds about right. You wear a GoPro camera for proof? I suppose if you wanted to. Man,

I hate that that only solves I mean, it's not beyond. It's probably not, I don't know if it's her responsibility, I guess, or not. But, like, you know that solves her particular problem. But perv o Jim over here is still wandering the office. He's on the problem. He's just gonna move on to Yeah. Easier prey. There should be a hey. We we should open up, an 800 number. Call us. We'll show up at the office, and we'll give them a good man time. We want dial a thug. Is that what you're saying? We just send one of our Christian mails over there and go, hey, friend. Here's what's gonna happen. Yeah. We recently received a phone call about your perviness. Yeah. We'll call it a and stop that now. Creep out the creepers. Can't the people just be creepy? That? I have Wait till you see how creepy we can be. I had a list created of the 10 reasons as to why you should stop being so perky. Here's the deal. You should only care about one of them. It's my fist. So

keep that in head butted in the office before? What I okay. You have to be careful how you go about this. But like no. No. I think me and Booba got it. We we kinda turned it into a fight club. Got a deal? I'm just saying, I feel like this is something God's people could be able to get behind. Like, we always have people calling random 800 numbers to pray with some some woman sitting in her with an Afghan around her shoulders. But, like, I feel like we could do 800

dial a Jesus though. Yeah. Hey, Jim Jim keeps coming to my office and he's talking to me appropriately. I've had a discussion with him, but I feel like he might talk to others. And he's not getting it. And we'll just we'll just come out. We'll just wait the van, wait till he leaves and We need an enforcement wing of of of the protection of ladies. And if God's people obviously, it's not getting done socially right now. So maybe God's people take a stand. We get ourselves in an a team. I'm a 100% behind this. Yeah. I don't even it doesn't even have to be all that violent. Like, to the extent that, like, it's just creepy. Could it be a singing gram or something? We just show up and write some kind of really awkward song and We love the singer. We're talking. Your barbershop quartet is, like, creepy songs. Here's that. We call the song Off Limits. We're back. Off limits. We're back. Off limits. Treats in the morning. Yeah. You guys are taking this completely

another Sorry. I wasn't sure where you're going with that one. Yeah. There's no reason to escalate violence. We can escalate escalate to awkwardness. We're not using actual violence, but we're certainly implying You just you Oh, like that Yeah. But don't bluff. Yeah. Well, no. It's not a bluff. We're not starting with violence. We're implying violence will happen if this continues. And if it continues, we will then deliver violence. Second course. Okay. What if they punch you in the face while you're going through your barbershop Punch you in the face? Oh, fluent. Yeah. Message delivered.

Think of me matching t shirts. There'll be no violence. You're gonna have to have at least one heavy in this group. Guys are obviously I think you have, like, three or four guys that just walk around behind him and talk about him. Like, isn't it creepy when, like, dudes just walk up Like, and yeah. No. Just, like, we're not talking to you. We're not touching you, but we're not gonna leave your bubble. Yeah. And we're gonna be back if you don't leave her alone. That's pretty Hey, Mike. Did you hear about half an hour with these guys, like, you know, subtly assassinating your character?

You'll just be like, I really don't think I want the creeper creepers coming back. The peanut gallery of Jesus. Now hold on a minute. If Jesus' intent of the heart is what he speaks about, and and why are you assassinating me and then leaving Rick Graves attempted assassination with verbal intent on the line? His was funny. Yeah. Yours was some sort of violence. His was just, casual manipulation. Hey. Hey. Casual manipulation. Hey. Did you see how Jim hit that stapler like he hits on the ladies in the break room? Oh. Yeah.

His his at least seems more witty. Yours is all brute drum roll app. That will be the verbal yeast team. Don't touch the whackies. We'll see. Go ahead. Verbal yeast. Not cool. Okay. Yeast infection squad. There we go. Alright, Dale. Wow.

Did I give Hey. This goes this is we need to complete the show. We need to delete it from existence and just note it entirely. Here? We need to send out an announcement that says, life in the past did not happen today. I told you guys I had an Alright. Okay. Infection was in armpit? Oh, for heaven's sake. Hey, Dan. You did say that, and it was on air. But, like, really, that was, like, before Before we had standards. Yeah.

We just wanted to be on the air. That's true. Nowadays. I remember that being really funny, though. Yeah. Was freaky. It was weird. Dan Hudson's medical commentary. Humanity was weird. Did you ever had to use way you want to treat those or Try new.

Oh, you're right. We nope. You're right. We can't air it. It's it's it's gone. It's completely gone. Alright. Swear it up then, boys. That gets us this one's out. Yeast infection in my armpit. Barber shop quartet gossip. Seriously. Hey, man. That's quirky. I'm kidding. Yeast in the armpit. Do you want it? Limits. Don't touch the yeast. Off limits. You wanna do one more? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Might as well. You're try and redo where it up. Right? Dear life from the past, I'm 21 and confused. My boyfriend Ethan and I broke up five months ago, but we recently got back together. I think it's Ethan. Okay. Problem is Ethan hides the fact that we're together. I'm not allowed to put anything on Facebook or even comment or like anything on his page. He hardly even talks to me or comes to see me. When we do talk to see talk to or see each other, we end up in a fight. We used to be great together, but things are no longer the way they were. Ethan insists he's not cheating on me, but it's hard to believe him because when we got back together, he had been talking to a girl who lives a few miles away from him. Yeah. I don't wanna end our relationship. Ethan says he loves me and doesn't want to leave me, and I don't know what to think anymore. Any advice? Can I go ahead and just jump right on this one, guys? Go ahead, boo. Please. Alright. So

close to that age group. He's an idiot. He's a complete and total idiot. And no offense to well, offense to you. You're an idiot too. Why are you with him? No. That that that's what sorry, boob. This is where you're wrong. They're not together. Exactly. Yeah. They're not together. They're not together. You are you are now the other woman. Gain some self esteem. I mean, come on. Seriously, have some form of self worth and go, Ethan or effing,

you schmuck. You mean nothing to me. I mean nothing to you. Let's be adults and never talk again. He this guy is a joke. He doesn't wanna break up because you're not currently dating. No. I I think I think that Mitch Hedberg joke says it best, like, he doesn't have a girlfriend. He just knows this chick that would be pissed if she heard him say Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Seriously.

Dude, effing. Grow up. Seriously, man. I will call 1800 gangster Christian. We'll send I will show We'll send the barbershop boys over to tell you what it's really like. You will too. Ladies. Uh-huh. Plymouths. Seriously,

man. Grow up. You are a child and a joke. Seriously, you are making every one of us we cannot stand picking up after you because you are a joke. Ethan. Ethan. Ethan, what? Ethan. Yeah. Here's the deal. It's not him who's delusional here. Right? Like, what's the gal? This is totally on the woman.

Mean, you're not speaking to the man. The man is obviously set in stone the way that he's acting. And she is I mean, literally holding on to nothing. Right. And he's playing both ends. I mean, he's just getting as much out of her as he can until Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to what game what man wants to juggle two ladies? Inevitable. One is very difficult to deal with on the whole. Two has got to be about impossible. But he's not dealing with her. He's just He's ignoring it. Getting what he wants and then gets into fights. They weren't together for five months. He was bored. Like, that's what happened. He was like, well, remember that guy I was with five months ago. I'm not really sure what her name was. I should probably look up her Facebook and then figure that out before I contact her again. But I'm bored. Let's see if she's willing to be in some kind of relationship with me and we'll pretend like it actually is real. Grow up both of you.

Yeah. Move on. Yeah. He's already broken up with you. It's just time to accept that. Secular advice to Ethan. Yes. Wake up, honey. Oh, that's to the girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Writing to the lady. Yes. Wake up, honey. The relationship you cherish with Ethan is over. A man who is in love with a woman sees and talks with her often and doesn't hide from her from the world or get into a fight with her every time he sees her. That he would forbid you to mention that you are back together on Facebook and refuse to permit you to comment on his post is a huge red flag. Maybe. She might be an over poster or wanna dramatic dramatize their lives all over the net. That's really annoying. That could have been why they broke up. Yeah. I'm I'm not say I mean, I'm not saying it's not a good reason to leave, Ethan. But, like, some people like to put all their business up onto Facebook. It's really, really catty. Yeah. But even changing her status to in a relationship? Still a bit much. That's a bit much? My face is not very serious. I they only know I'm married because my wife told them. Other than that, he's nervous. Official conversation. Yeah. It says a generic picture. You asked my vice advice, and here it is. Take a giant step backward and see a fan for who he is, a person who doesn't tell the truth and is very likely a cheater. If he was sincere, he'd be telling the world the happy news about your reunion.

Yeah. That's not true. Maybe keep things tight to the list. They keep fighting. How happy is their reunion, really? It just is not a town gossip. Doesn't mean he's a bad man. No. Yeah. Stop trying to defend him in any way, Mike. I'm just saying Facebook vomited. I can't take no order. No. That's not a good standard. I mean Tell everybody about your business all the time. Alright. You and us to Life in the Path. Thanks for hanging out with us this week. Hide your kids. Hide your wife. Life in the Path is on the air. Wow. We run a podcast. I will that's the second time I've said that about some sort of this week. Actually, the last two days about an event in which I was speaking at.

I can't tie it to life. I can't it to Alright. Thanks for listening live for the past. We'll see you next week. Yeah. Have a good week.