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audience. I've saved you from the conversation that went on ten minutes before the show started. And you don't know enough to know, but you should be very thankful for the things that don't make it onto the air, here on the Truth Network. Mainly my fault. Yes. So I my name is Ben Fooz. Hey, real quick. It just, you were you were listening to Live From The Path. We're about Honest Faith, Fierce Grace, and Sometimes Donkeys. Because here's the deal. You can love Jesus and talk about donkeys and breakfast cereal and Herb Alpert and possibly Bill. Things that go on what is it? Bill? We we were talking a little bit about, like, when you call if you call somewhere and it's obviously overseas and then they give you some kind of white bread Middle East, like, Midwestern name. Thank you for calling the mortgage center. My name is Bill. No. It isn't. You've lied to me already. I'm calling for a financial center. My name is Timmy.

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you can enjoy the show still every Monday night at 10PM here at lifeinthepath.org. You should sign up for the podcast. Yeah. And you could listen to it at your own leisure. Yeah. That that's the way that's how I take it in. Yeah. I take it in small doses. I can't take the whole show once myself. So here's what we're gonna so I didn't really plan all that much for tonight except for, hey, I saw this I saw an article on USA Today,

and it was rare Christian papyrus was on eBay for $99. So there was a there was some guy that there was a New Testament papyrus fragment dating to around three hundred AD that had an opening bid of $99 on eBay. Woah. Wow. I mean, that would I feel like I could have dropped that. That would have been the deal. Right? I would have buy I would have buy it now. I would buy it now for 99 bones for 300 AD Christian papyrus.

I mean, it authentic three 100 or the guy was just saying that? Yeah. So no. Here so it's they reached out to the seller, and it's called a willowy papyrus. And a few lines in Greek from the Gospel of John, possibly John one fifty to 51, an unidentified Christian writing on the other side. And it was let's see. An abstract of the talk said he planned to entertain the possibility that the text on the other side belongs to an otherwise unknown Christian apocryphal text.

And the cap the fragment comes from a scroll, not a codex, unlike every other known sample of Greek New Testament papyrus. So, yeah, it's, they believe so it was a there was a a collector, Harold Willoughby. He was a well known professor of theology at the University of Chicago, at the time of his death had a library of over 3,500 rare bibles. The seller was related to Willoughby who died in 1962, and they're trying to persuade him to turn down absurd amounts of money and have the fragment placed in a research library.

Yeah. I'm sure, hey. I will give you $15,000,000 for this papyrus, or you can give it to us for free so we could put it in the library. So, okay, I used to to subscribe for a number of years to biblical archaeological review and it was it's a cool magazine.

I mean, it is. I mean, there was a lot of archaeological things, but they were always people selling things like this. And and there were so many times like, man, I've gotta have this. And then I I finally boiled down to, like, what am I gonna do with that? Yeah. Right. I mean, I was like so I like tell people, hey, look at this. I got this. I mean, nobody cares. I mean, especially even if you're all geeked out about it, it's like nobody cares. Yeah. But, you know, I I could spend the money on something better. Yeah. Even if you're geeked out about it, you're geeked out of it for, like, twenty minutes. Yeah. And then I say, hey. Yeah, Dan. That's really cool. But when are the nachos coming out? I here's the deal is I I I just can't imagine the conversation wasn't, hey, Bill. You said you were gonna get rid of this It's been around this house for, like, ten years. You're gonna frame it. You're gonna hang at this, and then here it is. It still sits on your desk. No. No. I'm gonna do something with it. Yeah. I'll I'll take care of it. And then all of sudden, he gets he gets finally flagged into it. He's like, look. I'll I'll put it up on eBay. We'll just get rid of this thing. An ancient Christian writing. What was the what was the description unknown text on the back? Yeah. Yeah. So it was John John one fifty to 51 on side one and then unidentified Christian writing on the other side. How do they know it's a Christian writing if it's unidentified? I know it's probably just Jesus. It's probably just some notes. Like, it's a grocery list. Yeah. I need I need TP and and tongs. Do not throw away. Hummus, olive oil, and we're good.

That's very stereotypical, Bubba. It was true. I saw it. I saw the shopping list. That's exactly what I chips. Pita chips, lamb meat. Oikos. Greek yogurt.

Did we invent Nutella? Oh, no. No. No. No Nutella there. We're trying to think here. We're we're Greek. What do we eat? Pita. Feta cheese. Yeah. Baby. Wero sauce. And olives. Lots of olives. So What's debating up to now? Well, so he he suspended it.

He suspended the, he suspended the bidding, and then there he's I think he still has it for sale somewhere else. Like, he's still on the I it's not really the black market. Is there a gray market? Is there a higher class eBay of, like, only fancy things? Oh, I don't know. It's probably up for sale on biblical archaeological review. Craigslist Greek edition. Alexander's list. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Is there is there that's a good question. Is there an upscale eBay? Is there a place where, like, if you well, I know people sell really expensive stuff on eBay. Yeah. Hey. I'd hey. I eBayed something this week. I I I put something up for sale, and then somebody bought it. And then, I mean, ten seconds after this person bought it, says, hey. I have some questions about this item. Do you feel like I'm being scammed? I felt like I was being like like, if you this person came in and bid, and then after she already won the bid, and then she starts asking questions like, it was a it was a laptop. She's like, is a replacement battery a factory battery, or is it third party? And, I think the shipping is a little high. Can you check the shipping? And something or other, like, two other questions that I thought, I feel like someone's trying to scam me because who does that? Like, you already agreed to buy this thing. Yeah. The the agreement's already in place. Just send it to her. What? She hasn't paid yet. She has outstanding questions. Can you do that? Can you win the auction then refuse to pay based on further questioning? I don't know. That's what I that's what I think anyway. Not not without getting negative. I have sold a lot of things on eBay, actually. I mean, you you'll get some negative, feedback.

I will negative feedback her. Yeah. And then they can get blocked, and then you can eBay can get mad at you, and they'll they'll cut you out. Wanna start a ride or anything. I just wanna send this laptop to somebody. Just give her an honest answers. And if she starts, you know, saying, hey. I I wanna do this or do that, then just say, alright. Here's what it'll cost you. It'll cost you 15 points in negative feedback. Yeah. Okay. Or you could just answer with outrageous answers. EBay advice. Alright. I appreciate it. Okay. Anyway, so keep an eye on eBay for papyrus, I guess. Yeah. I know I don't even know who finds the thing. I feel like searching eBay for stuff, and it's, like, looking for papyrus. Like, that's a bit of an optimistic, isn't it? Am I the sucker in the situation that's willing to drop the 100 bones? Hang on a minute. I I would. The last thing you bought on eBay. Booboo, you ever bought anything on eBay? Yeah. What'd you bought? What's the last thing you bought? Socks. Really? Yeah. Jeez, Booboo. I mean, you know Hey. You don't know my life. Right? It is difficult to find big man socks that aren't just black and white or white. What kind of fancy socks do you need? I don't know how willing I am to answer that question on air. Alright. That's all we need from booba. Dave Herrick, the last thing you bought on eBay?

Wow. It's been years. Oh, I bought a bible. I don't remember. BUVA, you had your turn, and you wasted it on the fancy socks. We've moved on to Dave Herrick. The fancy socks are worth my purchase, and I remembered that I bought a bible, like, two months ago. I'm glad that just hit your buy after the socks. Dave Yeah. I don't think I've bought anything in in over a decade on eBay. Ten years for for Dave Herrick. I've been outside the country. So that's fair. That's fair. Bob Eisenhower, anything from eBay? Yeah. Some old Sports Illustrated magazines, I think, was the last thing I bought Was it within the last last six months or so? No. I'd say two years, three years ago. Do you do you hang them on your wall or display them in some way? Yeah. Actually, I do. Yeah. Yeah. The one was to get autographed by Tommy Lasorda. So That's that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the last thing I bought. Okay. Andrew, have you bought anything on eBay in the last, year or so? I bought seasons one through three of an old cartoon called Redwall. Redwall. I like Bob's approving.

Where I was That is interesting. What's nerdy? Pretty nerdy. Where I was thinking, what? K. Josh, anything on eBay in the last year? You should know me by now. I I fear technology. That's fair enough. I've not used eBay. No. We've been trying to get Guestman to sign up for a Facebook. Oh, come on, man. He's doing it in, like, iterative steps. Like, this week, he actually opened Facebook on a web browser, but wouldn't take the steps to, like, create a name. He just observed it. I I looked at it for a while. What's this about? Walked away. What is this thing? What is this sorcery that I'm seeing? It's a fad. Just make a Facebook and put Dan's face on it for a bit. It's a good idea. That's an idea. I've actually created at least three phony Facebook accounts for people that refuse to do it, and then make a bunch of friends That's awesome. I have gotten comments and messages from one of those phony Facebook accounts. Here's I actually use it as a veiled thread. I'll say, listen, either you can do it or I'm gonna do it. I don't think you want me doing it. And then they refuse. And so I See you dude. It's worked out for my Like, that's fair. Stick to his guns on it. You buy some money in future? I've actually never bought anything off eBay. I act the same way on eBay as I do at regular auctions as I get there and, you know, get up, like, I'm gonna buy stuff, and then that cheap mic comes out on my shoulder and be like, you ain't paying that much. It's like $10 for a full trailer full of stuff, and I actually won't have them. It's like $10 too much. You should've got it for 8. You're out. And then I end up I never buy anything. So, yeah, I haven't bought anything off eBay. Dan? I I purchased many things off of eBay. I I have a not not in the last six months, but, an Italian,

cycling jersey for riding my bike. They they size things smaller than we do. I have a It's a compression fit. Is that what you're saying? Well, it it is supposed to be anyway. Was gonna say, isn't that the point of it? Yeah. Yeah. It was even more so. Oh. Let's say my youngest daughter wears it. Okay? I have purchased a a popcorn, like a theater popcorn popper Sweet. In my family room. Love it. My daughter has a a signed from the cast Phantom of the Opera

original poster from the New York, you know, Broadway show. Yeah. Right? Yep. So I've got some unique, some fun things like that. You mean about socks? I have not purchased socks. Why am I the only one who bought socks on eBay? Because that's weird. That's why. It's not that weird. Yeah. It is. When you got big feet, that's what you got here. Well, that's Amazon purchase. You know what I'm saying? If you if it's hard to find, you get it from the Amazon. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Hey, man. Although Amazon judges you and tells you that you should buy more like That is the truth. Such a close track of you, like, you'll be reminded of that sock purchase every day for the next six months. Like, based upon your browsing history, here's a here's some more socks with Betty Boopa. Based off of the large socks you bought, we were gonna recommend this pancake maker. I'm like, hey, man. That's rude. You are stereotyping me with Big T being a big guy. Well, let's look at lots of ads for my massage table I talked about last week. Yeah. That's gonna be legit. It's gonna be weird for a while, Dan. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've actually I bought a few things for the show from eBay, like the I don't know. Some of the computer stuff that we have that brings in some of the alternate screens and stuff. I got that stuff off eBay.

So that's that's that's I eBay that stuff. So people still use it. It's not on its way up. No. Don't think so. Auctions are in. Socks. Okay. Alright. Anyway, I I did a quick look on eBay for Bible Papyrus. And the most expensive item I hold on. Let me hold. Let me try this again. Price plus shipping. Highest first. $97.70 for an ancient papyrus astrology astronomy biblical bible university of Michigan 1936. Yeah. This seems like a legitimate item. Wow. It looks like a shower curtain.

That'd be awesome. Okay. Hold on. Proprietary in the University of Michigan collection, miscellaneous, Pirate, edited by John Garrett Winter, 1936, first edition, large sized hardcover, 390 pages plus image plates. Why? In case I wanna print another one? That's weird. I don't yeah. That ain't worth no hunting. Man, what kind of rabbit hole have you got us in? No. I'm sorry about that. That's why we're off the air. This is this is not a This is our last show. This is not a quality program. That's true.

Alright. Well, anyway. Anyway, just looking looking at eBay for Christian Proprietary. Hey. So a few weeks ago what was it? Two weeks ago, we were kinda talking about listening to God. And so, shoot, I I think I lost, oh god. I think I lost this article. It was basically, here was one of the questions that came up, there's an article about the book called Jesus Calling.

And the book was is about someone who claims to have heard from from Jesus, that Jesus was speaking to her, and then she wrote it down and then published it as a book. And then the questions surrounding the book were basically, you know, a, if Jesus is actually talking to somebody, why don't we treat that like scripture?

And if we don't believe that that people are creating new scripture, maybe we like, should we be listening to this? And so it got me to thinking from a broad perspective, like, how how do we actually listen to god? Should we be listening to god? If I is is Bible, the by the final authority here, like, is is there is there even any reason or means to be listening for God? How do you know whether it's God and not you? And, and so kind of all that whole, I think everything that dumps into the generally, the Holy Spirit bucket. The stuff where we say, the Holy Spirit's gonna do x y z, and it always seems to include, like, an an element that is an active listening, an active participation is something God has going in your life. And so the question is, how do you do that

in in the right manner? What is the what is the right way to do those types of things? Because, like, a lot of the perversions of the gospel that I've seen are people who claim, you know, Jesus told me x y z, and you're like, there's no way Jesus said that. Like like, people do crazy stuff. A lot of cults are born as God said to do x to do this thing and then everyone ends up dead and you're like, what? It doesn't really smell like Jesus. I feel like that didn't happen. And so somehow, lines are getting crossed somewhere. And so the question is is how do we actually is it right to think that that we we can personally hear from God outside of scripture? If so, how how do you do such a thing in a way that that does it in a safe manner, understanding that people do all kinds of crazy things? Because the truth is is like, if God says to do it, then you should do it. It doesn't matter how crazy it sounds from a human perspective. I think the real question is is like, is God actually speaking to anybody? And so so that was the question. I was trying to find the article because the article kind of brought up some stuff related to,

like, questions about the book that I thought were kind of interesting related to this discussion. I don't does anybody have any, I mean, like, thoughts? You you guys I I gave you guys the article. What do you think? Good. Excellent. Well, I mean yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think God talks to you. Yes. And I I think there's, I think we draw that from biblical examples of God talking to you nowhere directly in the in the Bible to say, look, this is gonna be the end of it. I'm I'm gonna stop talking to people now.

I Here I found I found the article. So here here we go. Here was the the book was about Sarah Young's Jesus Calling. According to publisher Thomas Nelson, it continues to grow in units sold each year since it was released and has surpassed 15,000,000 copies sold. And but it says it is a deeply trouble troubling book. Here are the here are the 10 points. Okay? One, she speaks for God. Far and away, the most troubling aspect of the book is its very premise, that Sarah Young hears from Jesus and then dutifully brings his message to her readers. Jesus Calling makes the boldest, gutsiest, and to my mind, arrogant claim of any book ever to be considered Christian. The publisher describes the book in this way. After many years of writing her own words in her prayer journal, missionary Sarah Young decided to be more attentive to the savior's voice and begin listening for what he was saying. So with pen in hand, she embarked on a journey that forever changed her and many others around the world. In these powerful pages are the words and scripture Jesus lovingly laid on her heart, words of reassurance, comfort, and hope, words that have made her increasingly aware of his presence and allowed her enjoy his peace. And then and then, this reviewer says there's no way to avoid her claim that she is communicating divine revelation, a claim that raises a host of questions and concerns, not the least of which is the doctrine of scripture alone, which assures us that the Bible and the Bible alone is sufficient to guide us in all manners of faith and practice. What's what's react what's your reaction to the claim

that she is she is hearing from Jesus and that that it's her responsibility to then carry the words of Christ to other people outside of what the Bible is otherwise described? So think God communicates with us for sure. I mean, I I have no doubt there, but I think you have to be very, very, very, very careful when you start authoritatively throwing around, well, God told me this or God says this. Because there's such a fine line between what God's really leading you to do and what you want to do that sometimes it's hard for us to distinguish to to distinguish that. And and then I've heard so many times people, you know, well, well, God led me to do this or God told me to do that. And I'm thinking, no, he probably really didn't. I mean, it's not that you did did something bad. It's just don't don't blame God for that. You know, I've I've been a pastor for for thirty years, and so I don't have tons of friends through the years and and had known tons of churches where, you know, well, God's led me to another church. It's like, no, you just made a bunch of people mad at you, and and you felt uncomfortable, and you were too wimpy to to to sit and and settle a thing like a like a man, and you you felt you ran. You ran away from the situation, but God always tends to lead you away, you know,

when when there's trouble. Right? I I just I think you have to I just think you have to be really, really careful. I'm not gonna say it doesn't happen either because I've had God lead me, you know? But I I just don't wanna go around telling people this is from God. This is a God thing. I try not to. May maybe I do, but So how do we deal with this question, which is the the claim he says there's no way to avoid her claim that she is communicating divine revelation, a claim that raised a host of questions, not the least of which is the doctrine of scripture alone, which assures the Bible and the Bible alone is sufficient to guide us in all matters of faith and practice. Does that may does that mean that's not true? That mean what's not true? That the Bible alone is sufficient to guide us in all matters of faith and practice? Because if if it was, wouldn't that call like, why is God speaking to anybody?

I would say it's sufficient for us to get to know God and then to ask him. But the claim isn't just, is it sufficient? It's the claim is that the Bible is sufficient and only the Bible is sufficient. In other words, you communicating you using your own words, they have no bearing. I feel like there's no part of scripture that bears that out. Every every interaction in the Bible was with, someone with God, and very little was to point it back to the scriptures. And that's not to take away from the scriptures at all, but, like all the stories that just all the all the the the retellings that you read and the, you know, the the the factual history of of people's interaction with god, that's what's in the Bible and that so they're basically just taking interactions with god, writing them down on paper, and then we like to say, god doesn't interact with people. That doesn't make any sense at all. Mhmm. Ben? I I'm I'm I'm the guy asking the questions here. Yeah. The Bible. We we utilize the Bible as a as a a facilitator for for the starting of a relationship with God. We we

use it to get to know his character and to get to know who he is more in attempts to have relationship with him so that we can learn more from him specifically. Like, that's that's where prayer comes in, we we pray for for knowledge. We pray for just as as a relationship with God, we want we want closeness, we want, you know, that that conversation there. I think that that the claim that the Bible is all we ever need is false.

I I don't think that's true. I think it's a great tool, and we should absolutely use it to the best of its ability and continually use it and learn from it, but I don't think that's just it. God didn't call us to have a relationship with just his book. He called us to have a relationship with him specifically, specifically, and and that's that's that's outside of scripture is that relationship you have with him. So the concern seems to be that if if you're saying that that God then speaks to you outside of scripture, how is that not the same thing as creating or adding to scripture, saying the Bible is not sufficient for us to know to know God? He is providing extra revelation, and that the the Bible is is thus incomplete. I think that oh, go ahead. No. No. Go ahead. That's my question. How do you how do you react to that? I think that that God allows us to to to learn from the Bible, and we we build that relationship with him so that we can become closer to him for us. I I don't know how that translates to God tells us and has that that closeness and relationship with us so that we can go and be prophets for him. And I think that's what what I would draw the line at. I can see the the relationship outside of the Bible and and speaking outside of the Bible between you and God to build your relationship with him

to to get to know him more, but not to go and be a prophet by your own your own statement and go out and and speak, further words on God's behalf. I mean, that's not even a practical what they're suggesting is not even a practical way to run a kingdom. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it you can't have basically the the the the guidebook, the getting to know, here's who you're dealing with God,

which is the Bible. And then say, well, anything outside of that is extra biblical and and obviously not from God. I mean, how long would this book be if he's like, and by the way, Buva, in 2015, I want you to do this on, August whatever. And and and make sure you go left instead of right because I I'm gonna tug on you that day. I need you to go over there and and and talk to this gal. Right? So now take that times everybody that's ever lived since the since the Bible was published and tell me that's a practical way to run a kingdom. Right? Like, if God is not a you have to be thinking of of him as a a false non existent being to think that he would do something so outrageously stupid as write every move that everybody whoever was gonna follow him down in a book for everybody to read at all times. That's just a very impractical way to do things. Frankly, it diminishes God as well because, basically, you've got God contained down to the this volume of scripture and nothing more. And so as long as you you kinda get a grasp on that volume of scripture, then God can't invade your life any any further beyond it. It's like, hey. Here are the things that God requires of you. You've got it as your itemized list even if the list is literally every verse in the book, but God's not gonna invade anything beyond it. So as far as turning left or right at at the donut shop versus, the coffee shop, you know, if God has an agenda in that, then he apparently can't speak to that because he's never spoken about donuts versus coffees as far as scripture goes. So he's not gonna invade anything beyond what the book has spelled out. And so you've got a a view of God that just can't get beyond those those limits of scripture.

So here was the second thing. He said, that and, again, this is a description of the book, but I think it's appropriate to the the conversation that we're having. It says, she proclaims the insufficiency of the Bible. Jesus calling only exists because Sarah Young had a deep desire to hear from God outside of the Bible. In the introduction, she describes the books Genesis. I began to wonder if I could receive messages during my times of communing with God. I'd been writing in prayer journals for years, but that was one way communication. I did all the talking. I knew that God communicated with me through the Bible, but I yearned for more. Increasingly, I wanted to hear what God had to say to me personally on a given day. In those few sentences, she set up unnecessary competition between her revelation and what we are told of the Bible in second Timothy. All scriptures read that by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. Biblically, there is no category for what she provides as the heart and soul of her book. Biblically, there is no need for it and no reason we should expect or heed it. So are you saying we disagree with that? Yeah. Mhmm. So what's the Why do you believe these things, Ben? Well, I'm I'm asking the questions. The Bible lays out the the fundamental foundation of what our relationship is with God and what his core character is like. But it's not addressing all issues, the ins and outs of of sheep in, sheep out that that have to do with life. And sometimes there's

ways in which we approach life that we really do need to hear, on a more intimate level from from this Jesus that we're following and get his his input as far as, hey, what's going on? So the Bible lays that foundation for us so that so that we can follow him, get an idea of his character and what he's expecting of us in a general way. But as far as some of these daily details, no, they're not gonna be laid out in scripture. Well, I mean and and that was basically saying that God is not a God of the gray. And he is he is totally a God of the gray. You know, like so you could make it the decision to do just about anything that's scripturally approved. Like, say, help the homeless. Mhmm. Now, which homeless is that? Well, does it does it not matter to god which one you do or who's around or what town you live in or or what people he has around? Are you supposed to go to Nicaragua and help homeless people there? Like, there's gray there. Like, there's a whole amount of gray. And if God and you're basically saying God does not care about my life, although he's taken the time to account the hairs on my head, he doesn't care about who who I'm with or why or how I proclaim his word or to whom, which seems to betray scripture in itself. Wait. Wait. Now that that that's a that's a reasonable question, though. Is that true? Like, is is God that specific on everybody's life, or has he not laid out in scripture basic premises that we just need to be faithful to?

I feel like he I feel like he well, see, that's just me feeling. Right? I don't know that I got anything to back that up. I'd I'd tell you of the people that I know and and any experiences that I've had is that is that he lays the Bible down as general general grounds for living in his kingdom. And when he needs you to to do something, he'll let you know. Number three was her deepest experience of God comes through a practice God does not endorse. She does not only endorse her practice of listening, but goes as far as to elevate it as the chief spiritual discipline.

This practice of listening to God has increased my intimacy with him, let's see, more than any other spiritual discipline, so I want to share some of the messages I have received. In many parts of the world, Christians seem to be searching for a deeper of Jesus' presence and peace. The messages that follow address that felt need. Notice that her solution to addressing the desire for Jesus' presence and peace is not scripture or any other means of grace, but the very messages she provides in her book. I I disagree. Listening to god's a part of prayer. It's there's plenty of examples of that in scripture. Habakkuk really quickly comes to mind because the entire book's just a conversation back and forth between

Habakkuk and and God. And chapter two, he specifically says, hey. I went to my prayer place, and I sat there, and I I waited listening for God. And then the very next verse, chapter chapter two verse two, and God answered him. And there's an ongoing dialogue back and forth between between Habakkuk and God, and he's not the only example of that. So this practice of listening to God is very much a part of scripture. And if you're looking at scripture as your guide, then you have to include that as this is the example that we should follow and and incorporate into our spiritual lives is listening to God. So that's a good point. Like, if we're saying that that that the scriptural principles are that we are actively listening and that God will does speak actively into our lives, if we're if if we're in the you need to be faithful with scripture camp, how can we ignore that element? Is that is that basically what you're saying, Harry? Correct. Yeah. Okay. And that's Isn't just about every example of of our heavy hitter Bible heroes? These are all guys that listen to God in some capacity. You know, I mean, Noah's a a a an awesome example. You know what I'm saying? Moses is a good example. Even if Jesus is a solid example. Right? Like I said, when he said, he he went up to pray before picking the 12 disciples. Right? That was a discussion with the father. It was a prayer to the father. Here's what we're gonna do. And, and I'm seeking, you know, and so like there's there's plenty of examples of people listening to God and doing things. Mhmm. And so like just because she doesn't do it in a in an olive garden somewhere and and, you know, on top of a mountain doesn't discount it. Now, you know, the fact that you might sell a book or something seems a little fishy to me. But I I mean, apart from that, like the basic principles of saying, I listen to God. And if you and as crazy as that sounds, if if you feel like you're hearing from God and you are afraid to tell other people about it, you're a coward. You know what I'm saying? Like, I felt if God told me something, I'd tell people even if they thought I was nutty because God talked to me, which is pretty it's pretty cool. And I'd like to tell others about it. And so like, the the the examples that he's giving are so far ones that I can totally get behind. Like, I heard from God. I'm telling everybody. Yeah. That seems pretty solid. Well, I mean, yeah, fine. Call me a coward, but I like to think of that kind of, like, private. It's like, you know, me and God having a relationship. And quite honestly, all these, like, the books with, you know, like, whatever Jesus talked to me or even that, like, ninety minutes in heaven or heaven heaven is for real or thirty minutes in hell or whatever. That those kind of books bug me because it's like Well, the latter two you're talking about should probably bug you in some way. But, like, the example that you're giving is basically God talks to Jonah. Jonah goes, no. No. That's just for me. I'm not going to Nineveh. I'm not gonna tell anybody about anything you ever said. Oh, fine. Go to Nineveh and tell them so. But if it's like, oh, it's just me and God talking

together. The conversation between Jonah and God. Correct? It was just him and God. And then all of a sudden, God asked him to go to Nineveh. He basically said no. And and and in your version of the story, you would just continue to not go. Because you would not be sharing that those things that God taught you about with other people because it's just between you and him. A lot of times, God would get in I mean, God would make the first move for a lot of these guys. And, you know, you'd have this otherwise ordinary guy going along, and God grabs ahold of him and says, hey, you. I need you to go take this message to the Assyrians. Like, that was the case for for Jonah or Jeremiah or something. And the message that they often brought was one that they knew they wouldn't be winning any friends with. A lot of times, it was, hey. You guys need to go repent and and, you know, change from your way of approaching life to get back in line with with God. And they knew that they were gonna catch some serious heat for this. A lot of the prophets ended up getting killed because of the message that they brought before the king, and they knew that that this is exactly what's gonna happen. So there's a there's a natural tension going on between the messenger and the message that they're carrying. But Jeremiah's response to it is very appropriate. He says,

God's God's word is a fire shut up in my bones. I I can't contain it in. It it has to get out. And so even though he had already been thrown into a cistern before because of the message that he brought. He knew that he still had to be faithful to God and and bring this message to the king because the king's obviously not listening. And in order for God to bring about the course of action that he wanted to bring about, the king had to have every opportunity and reject God at every opportunity before God could say, alright. Now we're done.

And without God extending every opportunity for the king to either accept or reject, God couldn't justify, himself in what he was doing. So he sent Jeremiah, and it meant Jeremiah's life eventually. But

So there was a sorry. There's another couple points here, I think I have a then I have a few more questions. Sure. Number nine was she generates confusion by fabricating the spiritual discipline of listening and elevating elevating it to first place. She generates confusion about the disciplines that god does prescribe for Christians. There's a man who addresses this one well. He says according to the reformation stream of evangelicalism, God speaks to us in his word, the arrow pointing down from God to us, and we speak to him in prayer, the arrow directed up to God. However, Jesus' calling confuses the direction of these arrows, blurring the distinction between God's speech and our response. What she models and endorses is both confusing and unhelpful. So but but but if I if I'm following our conversation correctly up to this point, you guys are saying that that isn't the reasonable

that that actually isn't the distinction that makes. Like, there there is an active listening to God demonstrated in scripture. Dan Hudson, would you agree with that? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, mean, God does speak to us, and he leads us personally. And I like what what Herrick said, you know, he invades our life. I mean, he definitely does that. At the same time, there's this balance and this this is the caution, I guess. Out of the billions of people who lived on on the planet over thousands of years, we have the story of, you know, a handful of people who had life world changing events because God led them, you know, to go to Assyria or go to different places. You know, if for all of us to sit around waiting for God to give us that world changing event is a little bit ridiculous when he's already told us all the things we should be doing. Mhmm.

Now he like I said, he might he will speak to us and lead us, like you say, the homeless. There there may be specific people. God will nudge your heart. Okay. Good. Cut. Talk to that guy. And and you do it. You know, you obey. I I guess I have difficulty, like, maybe writing it down like some new authoritative this is from God. That's maybe that's where I I cringe a little bit. That that actually personally, creeps me out. Like Yeah. The thought process that God said, I want you to write this down and then sell it to others. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's that's when the old barometer starts to break. Up. I mean, it's one thing if God spoken to me and it's directing my life and and but it for me to try to direct other people's lives by what God told me, that that's where I think, okay. Then you have to go into the prophet stage. Okay. Has she ever been wrong ever? Well, then she's not a prophet. So so here so here was my question. I like, I was reading this. I was trying to to find it to to sympathize on the side of the person writing the article. Like, what are they what are we reasonably trying to protect here? The inerrancy and accuracy of scripture, I'm on board. I got you got a thumbs up for me. I agree. Is it is it the scripture that introduces me to God, helps me know who he is,

is an authoritative speaker on on basically captured God's authoritative and sovereignty over the world? Yes. Yep. I don't think I don't have any disagreement there either. I I think where I'm running into some confusion is is the way that they describe how we use the Bible to unless I'm hearing them wrong, would simply discredit, preaching as an item. Right? Like reading scripture, yes. Preaching it all, gone. Mhmm. Right? Because what what right what I have to stand in front of anybody and proclaim to tell an anecdote that would point out or talk about what scripture reveals that is not at least that is not then purporting to speak better or on behalf of what scripture is trying to get to. Either preaching or teaching. I mean, there's a spiritual gift of teaching

that is a different thing than than preaching, and and both of them has such a value in the church. And, yeah, they're not necessary if if we're just all personally him. Yeah. I guess that's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't know, like, what what is it? What is a given week for a for a pastor or someone who's gonna teach the Bible? If you're going through and and reading scripture and then praying on, god, what do you have for your people? And what maybe that's wrong, but, like, that's that's where I generally start. God, what do you have? And then you're you're then you're speaking, and you're not just reading scripture, though. Like, you're actually you're talking about, how it applies to your life. You're giving examples that are not necessarily scriptural examples, but the things that illustrate what's going on in scripture. And if that if if the way that they're speaking of it says, basically, all if if everything is found in scripture,

then what is the pastor doing? And and and secondly, what is the role of the holy spirit? What is the work of the Holy Spirit to do? Is it just to simply you're incapable of obeying scripture, and so the Holy Spirit helps that? Or is it more of an active force than that in your life, which allows you to then

apply what scripture says in individual circumstances throughout your life? And if that's the case, then I feel like that's also understood in the response. And so I don't know. That those are kind of my reactions to it is like, I I mean, I get it, and and I think I I certainly understand the risks here. Right? Because if any if you validate something that says, oh, yes. I can hear from god, and it's just as authoritative of scripture, if you if you do not reference or revere

god as illustrated in scripture correctly, then you then you can go off on a wild hair and decide god has told you something different. That's just fine. And one of the things he he talks about in in the, in the review here was her tone does not match the bible. Says it can't be denied. The Jesus of Sarah Young sounds suspiciously like a twenty first century western middle aged woman. If this is indeed Jesus speaking, we need to explain why he sounds so markedly different from the Jesus of the gospels or the Jesus of the book of revelation. No one scripture do we find Jesus or his father speaking like this. When your joy in me meets my joy in you, there are fireworks of heavenly ecstasy. Or, again, wear my love like a cloak of light covering you from head to toe, and bring me the sacrifice of your precious time. This creates sacred space around you, space permeated with my presence and my peace. Why does Jesus suddenly speak in such a different language? So Yeah. But earlier in the article, the author kinda contradicts that by saying that, the biblical writers were inspired to bring in their own personalities into it. So That's true. Why would he allow that for the biblical writers but not allow that for her if this is the case? So

so I I would agree. I think his example is poor. Herrick, would you would you say, though would you agree that there are risks to people who are under the impression that they're hearing from God, either, like, that having that not actually be the case or taking people in the wrong direction? Oh, very much so. The Bible even addresses that. Like, Jeremiah 28, you got a guy standing before the king almost indirect. Actually, no. Indirect opposition to Jeremiah. He says, no. This this exile is not gonna be going on. In fact, God's gonna liberate us in, like, two years or so. Then he takes Jeremiah's he was illustrating it with a a yoke, he just takes and breaks it.

And Jeremiah, having not actually heard anything from God about this guy in particular, just kinda keeps his mouth shut and just says, I I I hope that that's the case. And then a little bit later, God approaches Jeremiah, he's like, yeah. This this dude who Hananiah was the guy who was going off and spouting thus saith the Lord, even though he had no conversation with God about anything. God get goes to Jeremiah and says, hey. This Hananiah guy, he he's just talking out of the wrong hole. And so here's what's gonna happen. That that yoke of wood that previously you guys were gonna have as a nation, it's now being replaced by iron. And as for Hananiah himself, he's gonna be dead within the year. And seven months later, was dead. There's a definite

warning to anyone who comes forward and says, hey, thus saith the Lord, without having actually gotten a message from God, at least from that, if not other, core biblical verses in there. So, yeah, it's it's something you gotta watch out for. What really kinda scares me about it is it it kinda cheapens the discipline of reading scripture, and it it takes away from the overall message of Christ and and says, well, instead of actually sitting down and studying scripture and finding out what is it that that that God is

has been telling everyone in the world about his good news, I can just, you know, go to prayer and and expect that God's gonna drop good news on on me through prayer. And and it it ends up I don't know. It it really undermines the the whole purpose of scripture, which is setting up the this this foundation that the entire church is is built upon, which is the good news of the revelation of Christ. Instead of taking a primary eyewitness, like, say, John or Matthew,

and and believing someone who's credible about what Jesus did two thousand years ago, I'm instead going to Bill, my neighbor down the hall, and saying, okay. Now he's just as credible as someone who was an actual eyewitness to it. And it's like, no. No. I'm sorry. The guys who were there knew what they saw and knew what they were talking about. They wrote it down for a reason, and and that's what we need to elevate as in terms of credible witnesses to Christ. And as far as just Bill who happens to get up every morning and talk to God, I can't elevate him and his message over the book of John and and Matthew and and Mark and Luke and and what what history has actually shown about Jesus.

But but but what you're saying is that we could also it's not it's not off the table for god that to then speak to Bill within the context of the things that John and Matthew have said Yeah. And being able to to to otherwise apply those in a from from a personal relationship. Is that is that the right distinction? Yeah. Absolutely. And I often find that scripture is the catalyst to God speaking about something else. I mean, we'll face daily decisions

and just life, and sometimes God has a has a specific agenda in it that needs to be communicated to us. But more often than not, that's not the case. A lot of times, it's turn left or right. God will bless you either way. A lot of times, that's the case. And sometimes the question that we're asking is just a very human oriented question instead of a very God oriented question. And scripture helps us to put our focus back on what are the things that really move God's heart instead of the things that move our hearts. I might be wondering whether or not to respond to someone on Facebook or on Twitter, and god doesn't care about something like that whether which of these two is the option. His agenda is is is very different from my agenda. And so scripture helps me to ask the right questions, I find. So is that the right distinction then? So, like, if you're running into a circumstance like this, someone is saying, hey. I'm hearing from God. How do you know the difference? You well,

ultimately, I I've gotta look in hindsight. Did what they say turn out to be what actually happened? Scripture lays that out as this is the criteria. You know, they they come forward saying, hey. This is what God says, and then we find out that that's what came to pass. Then guess what? They're credible. So but

that doesn't give them license to start undermining everything else in scripture. Just because they were able to, you know, pick numbers one through 10 and and get it right once, that doesn't mean that they can go through and start undermining some of the messages that God's very faithful about communicating throughout scripture. And it's something that if a person's not willing to get involved in scripture and really get to know what it is is God's central core message, then why would God give them extra biblical revelation if they're not even interested in what he's already laid out? See here here's where I think it it can get to be challenging

is because I would tell anybody, you know, God would never tell you to do something that is against his character or against, you know, what what you would find in scripture unless you're named Abraham and you have a son named Isaac. Mhmm. And God says, hey, I want you to go ahead and sacrifice your son. You know, if if Abraham came to me, I'd tell him that's not from God. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, that doesn't sound like him at all. Yeah. On on a surface value. You know, know, that's what that's what makes us as hard to put a box and say, here's here's the rules. Mhmm. When when kinda, you know, God does what he wants. And and I I think when he speaks to us, if it's something big like that, it's gonna be so clear. It's not gonna be like, we're not gonna be fuzzy about it. Well, wonder if that's really God. Does God want me to do this? If he really wants you to do something, I think he makes it really clear to you.

Part of that is your active listening to him and that discipline. But it it can be challenging. Well and it's it's the I I think the thing is is is and I think this is where this this article is posturing is they are taking the risks that are involved with people hearing what they hear or trying to manipulate God's people by saying they heard something from God. And in order to protect against that, they're completely writing off

the possibility that God will actively engage in his world. And I think that is dangerous in its own right. Right? Because that says where God speaks, I refuse to listen because I there's too much risk that God will speak either in a way that we don't agree with or because people could hear something wrongly. But that that seems to to Eric some of Eric's examples, that seems to have always existed. It always existed that people could hear wrong or that people would try to manipulate God's people. That's most of Paul's warnings are that. Most of John's warnings are that. Right? You're you're looking out for false teachers. Who are those people except those who purport to be able to say one thing that God has otherwise delivered and are not saying it? They're false prophets. And so the these concept of this thing, existing isn't a foreign thing. And God's reaction wasn't, I shall send no prophets, lest they be confused for false prophets. He just continues to speak. And and the truth is is is part of David's example is right. Right? Like, we should be able to otherwise validate through scripture, how God acts, I suppose, within some certain constraints that, like, although he is always the same, he is also deeper than perhaps we know. Right? And so, like, I can't propose to know the depth of who God is,

even even through scripture. Now I'm not seeking anything outside of scripture as as a fulfillment. I think anything that I were to, feel like I'm hearing has to has to mix with that. But, like, I it seems to I think I Dave, I think I think Dave nailed it when he says, we put God in a box when we say he can't do this. He won't do this. That seems like a just as risky of a proposition that says, because humans might fail in this area, God doesn't play in that field. And that that doesn't sniff right to me. Yeah. It's like we're trying to make it this or that. Why can't it be this and that? Yeah. You know? And and I think that's part of the argument that maybe the article has. It's like, well, you kinda like it doesn't have to be one or the other. Can't it be both? Well, so I I think the the the the article postures a

there's there's simply no type of interaction with man and god outside of scripture. Like, you pray like, the direction that they proposed was when you pray, you are speaking to god. He he simply does not speak back. Yeah. I think it better be both. You know I'm saying? Like, I don't know I don't know what kind of relationship you can have with a god that never speaks to you at all ever. That and and and he used, I think Dave's right like like anytime I've experienced this, it's generally been connected to scripture and words that he's already he's already had. But like, there has to be that interaction

as I'm reading scripture as on top of that. Otherwise, it it really is just a blank page with a blank story and there's really nothing, there's nothing dynamic to it and like, if there's one thing I know about god, he's a fairly dynamic fellow. You know what I'm saying? He does crazy things and very cool things and very god sized things. And if you're not open to the fact that he can tell you about them or or or set you in motion to do that, then, man, I feel like you are missing out on one of the keystones of of of actually having a relationship with a dynamic god. You know what I'm saying? If if if all you wanted to do was worship rules and and function and a thought, man, that's just I just feel like that's not the life that God has called to show who he is. So I I wanna add one more thing to just to this. In in Acts 15, you've got the first example of all the churches getting together because they've gotta make a a decision about something. And it it's something that really would have just absolutely rocked the the nature of what Christianity looks like. And it's something that they all got together. They they all prayed, and they were all expecting some kind of a revelation from God, and he he didn't. He he didn't give it to them. And and it's something that God was actively doing during that time. I mean, the very next chapter, you've got Jesus

standing in front of Paul and and giving him a specific message. But here it is. All the leaders of the church, they're getting together, and God doesn't give them the decision. They're trying to figure out what do we do about Gentiles coming into the church. And their final conclusion as they're writing to all the other churches is, hey. This this seemed appropriate to us to us. We're we're basing this decision our own judgment. And it's something that I I think, if I'm gonna make a big guess here, that God knew them well enough and knew their knowledge of of their scriptures, and they knew the kind of decision that they're gonna come to that he didn't need to intercede. That he knew they were gonna come to the right decision, and he was just gonna let them let them do it and let it play out. And so the the human beings involved in it said, hey. Look. This is the decision that seemed right to us. We can't say that, hey. God absolutely endorsed this or anything. It's just this is what seemed appropriate.

So here's what we're gonna go with. You know what you know what's funny about that? It's like the very the very thing they're referencing here and saying, we shall know nothing outside of this. It's within that scripture that they're they're not following the same tenant. Mhmm. Right? Like it like it say we we we will not act outside of what the Bible describes, and then you have very clear examples of the Bible simply not doing that and having a more active or dynamic relationship with god. You're

right. There's there's a non sequitur in there somewhere. Mhmm. That makes it difficult to follow. Scripture is not posturing that, but we're saying we won't act act outside of scripture when scripture is otherwise showing something else. Yeah. I I it's here here's the things. I I think I know I think I know where it's coming from. It's a it's a risk protection, and some of it's just based upon how you think God actually interacts with people. Mhmm. Like, from that belief structure. So I I understand where that's coming from. I'm just it it just seems to not be consistent with the scripture that we we're calling to so faithfully stay within. Yep. That scripture itself seems to actually be beyond what it is we're trying to limit it to. Yeah. And the the author's right. This is it is risky territory.

This is where you got just all these cults and all these crazy wackadoos that are trying to convince people of things is, you know, hey. God told me this, x, y, and z. But, you know, life is risky. And full of wackadoos? Yeah. It's full of wackadoos. And you know what safeguards that is actually, surprisingly, your knowledge spray. Wackadoo spray. Oh, What

really does safeguard against these false prophets is knowledge of scripture. That's what's gonna gonna keep you grounded and keep you safe and and let you know left from right and and when someone's gotten off the deep end. Yeah. That's true. That's true. So it it really is a both end scenario, and and the danger of it would be just taking, hey. Well, a direct word from god that sounds more convenient than having to search through scripture. If that's your attitude, you're in very dangerous territory. You know, look to scripture first, and, you know, look to god as well. So There is not a legitimate wackadoo spray.

I wish. Hey. There is a Wackadoo Texas, though. Shocking. That's a legit town. Shocking. Is it anywhere near Austin? Oh, wait. Wait. That's not a town. That's a description of somebody else. No. It says Wackadoo. I shouldn't have googled that. I feel like that's gonna be that's gonna get my filter flagged. Alright. Alright. I don't know. Any any anybody else any thoughts on that? I I feel like that's something that that your average American Christian struggles with. Yeah. The thought that that god is is is potentially

dealing with them on a more personal and a more dynamic level. They don't feel like they're hearing anything. They wouldn't know to trust it if they did. And so it it makes either god less real or them feel like they're unfaithful, and they wouldn't even know how to actively pursue it anyway. And it seems like there's a from that perspective, there's a pretty easy protection that says, well, as long as he's not talking, then I don't have any problems. As long as I say that he doesn't talk, then I think we're also fine. But, like, it it introduces a much more dynamic, dangerous faith that says, god could very well actually speak to you personally and say, do something and have something to go on in your life. He he might he might actually use someone around you to do that, which, again, I like, just the way that they're talking about it, I feel like it takes everything off the table

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it's gonna be almost the exact same show. It'll just be on the Internet. Yeah. So you can check us out there. Thanks for hanging out with us at Live From The Path. We hope to see you on the ethers of the Internet, And I we're gonna have to let you go. The show will the show will go on both metaphorically and, you know, physically. We will actually continue the program on the podcast. And so if you're hanging out for that, we'll see you in just a minute. If not, I do wanna bid you a very thank you. Wait. A very thankful and glorious farewell. I I I hosed it up, didn't I? Yeah. This is they've made good decisions. We almost went off well and then that happened. No. No. No. This is I think that's characteristic. This is right and good. This is what the show is about. This is what you'll be missing. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Please be faithful to me. God will handle the ends. Thanks for hanging out with us on the Truth Network. We'll be right back with you. You've been listening to Live From The Path. Here's

the deal. Bob had, like, four donuts while we were having that shit. I saw it saw it happen the whole time. I was sitting here thinking to myself, man, I snuck one cheese poof. We have a three we have almost every angle covered in this, and Bob only chose to hide from one of the cameras while he was eating the donut. And then he would come up with a very guilty look on his face. So you could see that when I dug up? That's my favorite part of the show. Probably by Holy Spirit, God's reaction, Bob's eating his donut. I ain't so I was led.

I'm pretty sure. The Holy Spirit led me to that donut. I saw I saw a pillar of fire make its way way over to the doughnut box. So I I was Herrick was talking. I heard this crackling in my headphones, and I was looking around like, who is crackling paper? And Booba's over here digging popcorn out of a sack. And he's he's got it hidden low as if the proximity of the paper to my eyes makes it quiet or not. Didn't realize this was gonna be a very loud operation

and then I I saw in there and I saw something I wanted and I kinda went for it. You know? I sat there and I stood at I I stared at it for the first twenty five minutes of the show. I held I held back. I had restraint and then I stopped. Bubba pulled the x 15. Is this what seems reasonable to me? Yeah. Exactly. I was just like, this I had shape like had a process. I'm like, is this where my life is? Is this is this where I'm at? Is this boob yep. It is. And then I grabbed it and then I started putting my enormous Jiminy and sausage fingers into this small bag trying to pull out something that's gonna make my fingers fatter and

it didn't work. Wait. What was it? Was it a candy corn? No. M and M? No. It's it's like little it's like a cheese poof thing. Like I I don't know how to explain it other than that. Feel like I should say that to cart my voice. Cheesy poof. It's my cheesy poofs. And so yeah. No. This thing's it was delicious if you guys wanted to know. No. That was worth it. I thank I thank Eisenhower for bringing them in. Yes. They're great. I'm excited to enjoy the rest of them after the show. I got a question. How'd where the name Buva come from anyway? Hey, man. That's a difficult question to answer. So No, it's not. That's a There's a question. There was a it was this time I was in Singapore

and alright. The story's already a lie. No. No. No. No. So I was working I I I work I don't work here. This is not a legit operation. I feel like everyone knows this. So I have a I have a corporate gig of which I'm responsible for. And so part of this deal is we have to review output of some some things that go on. And so I'm reviewing some paperwork that comes through and there's this there's a name on there and it's like John Boover the third. And I thought, boy, that's a cool name. I thought, I wish I knew someone named John Boover the third and I thought, the chances of me meeting this guy are slim to none. So, like, I just changed Troy's name to John Boova. Hey, man. It wasn't even specifically like that. You just showed up to the show and said, hey, man. I saw a sweet name today, and I gotta name somebody that. And it was just you and me. So it was just like, I'm a start calling you Buva. I I said, sweet. That works. There's no way that's gonna catch on. Years later, nobody knows what my name is on this show. They just know who Buva is. And believe it or not, that was God totally working like an, an ego thing for me. Like, I don't know if you knew that at the time, Ben, but, like, God was kinda trying to turn that because I, for some reason, thought that I was gonna get famous off of this show. Like, we like, I've never been blatantly honest about that before, but I'm I think it's the it's the time to say it. You were on this show? I was on this show years ago, and I thought to myself, hey, man. This is my ticket out of this gym. Like like, this is this is where Troy Dean Engeldinger the first hits it big.

I was thinking to myself, man, we're we're gonna get syndicated. I didn't know what that meant. We're gonna get syndicated and then we're gonna get sold in different mean, people are gonna listen to us. I'm gonna be like Elvis Duran. Like, it's gonna be great. And I'm super excited about that. And then God shows up and says, no one's gonna know who you are even if this does take off. And then John Boova was born. And so it's funny that it's kinda taken over my life because half of my social media presence is based off of John Buba. Like, legitimately, like, my Snapchat's Buba. My my Instagram's based off of Buba. My Twitter's based off of Buba. My kids call him uncle Buba. I'm called uncle Buba by more than one set of children. Like, legitimately, it's become who I am. And I have to explain that every time. Apparently, And by the way, that's a bad word in The Philippines. Right on. So when I went It's just a descriptive word. Yeah. When I was in The Philippines, I told them about the radio show. I said, yeah, you know, I'm I didn't even know how to describe it to them. So I just said, you know, I I do talk radio. Superstar. Yeah, exactly. I'm a I'm a I'm

an American radio personality, and my name is John Buva on the show, and they all started giggling, and I'm like, oh, oh no, what happened? What seems to be the situation ladies? And they said Buva is is is a Filipino word for it's a Sibana word for a well endowed woman. A buxom a buxom woman. Yeah, exactly. And I I I couldn't really handle that and I just I kind of walked away from the situation because I I was like, alright, I'm gonna go away now. Seems like a a situation I'm gonna be involved in. So they kept calling me boo boo over there, meaning the Sivuano word, and I'm just like, hey, man, I don't know if that's right to say. If you walked on the seedy part of town and it said, come in, booba.

Right. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Like, hey, booba wear. Like, oh, cats. Everybody knows me now. So so that's yeah. So John has stuck for years, and I I did not anticipate it sticking Then just saw it on a piece of paper at work. Yep. I honestly didn't think it'd stick for more than a week, and now here it is years later. I love it. It's pretty good. I love it. I love it. My name still carries the same small amount of water it did when I started. Exactly. I'm just like, hey, man. Nobody knows who I am. I love that. Like, when I if anybody if the one time it's ever happened in the last six years, like, anyone has ever recognized me from the show, they call me Bubba, I'm like, that's God killing me. I like that. So, yeah. Bubba. Troy, if I die before you can get to heaven and have access to the book of life, I'm gonna look to see whether or not God lives Hey, you God wrote my name John Bubba the third. AKA Troy Engeldinger. That's gonna be awesome. When you show up, he's like, nope. Nope. Nope. Don't see you. You're Troy Engeldinger? He's like, no. Who's that? I'm like, John Buba the third? Oh, yeah. We got that. Come on in. Yeah. Come on in. Hey. You were on that you were American radio personality.

You're an American radio personality turned Filipino joke. Right? Yes, god. Come on in, buddy. Dear lie from the path. I am a woman who works in an office building. What's the proper etiquette when the cleaning service is cleaning the restroom? If it is a woman, I tend to go in anyway. If it is a man, I wait most of the time. Sorry. What? The the last caveat was if there's a dude in there, you'll go in and use the facilities while he's in there cleaning? Yeah. Lady it's a lady, and she's saying if there's a lady in there, she will generally go in anyways. If it's a dude, she most likely wait unless it's one of those those deals.

No. What? No. You stay out while they're cleaning. Yeah. Hey, man. Why don't you have two bathrooms? Just in case that happens. They do. A male and a female. Well, what I'm saying is, like, two male bathrooms and two female bathrooms. I'm a gentleman or a bugs and I feel that should always happen. I don't care how it is. I used to clean bathrooms to get my during college for money. And I I'm glad it was funny. It'd be weird if you said for like Reese's job. Pieces. It happened to be for bathrooms. And I absolutely hated it when people would come in there and be like, I am still cleaning this. You will wait your turn. People have no respect for the bathroom. Even guys? Yeah. Well, it was only guys' bathrooms.

Yeah. Or I was. Yeah. Because it was, like, dorm rooms and stuff. So you hated that guys would come in and use Oh, because I'm trying to clean, and they're like, you know what? I'm just gonna make a mess. Yeah. But that's eventually gonna happen no matter what time it happens. Yeah. But at least give me, an hour to make sure it pretty. Hours? Seriously? I'm not waiting an hour for you? It was a rather large bathroom. Wanna try to make it pretty in here, Fred? You want a guy to do the pee pee dance There for an were two Why have you sullied my work? There were two bathrooms in the dorm room hall, and there was one bathroom in the main area. You can choose one of the other two while I'm cleaning this one. And if you happen to be strong enough to remove the barricade that I've put in front of the door because I just got sick and tired of it, Just leave me alone. You barricaded your way in there? Yes. I barricaded the door. This is a barricade you're able to move. Right? Yeah. Why would it stop anyone else? Was On planet earth. Average man. Not me. I brought it. I put a chair in front of it. The the wall there's, like, a a wall maybe four feet from the door. Mhmm. And I had a cart with me. So I would push the cart. So the walls. Mean, some dude had to use the restroom would run-in and crush the cart, run past you, They open Your barrier doesn't stop me. They'd open the, you know, the the door

six inches to the cart, and then they'd start screaming at me to, like, move the cart so they can use the restroom or use a shower or whatever. I'm like, you can wait an hour to shower, guy. I don't care if the banquet is in, you know I'll move with the chair. You you should have little plastic bags outside the door. They could have used those. What? Dan's a problem solver. I have a pet. I know how that works. Cleaning people don't like it when you come in while they're cleaning. And I don't think anybody likes it when you poop in the bag. Yeah. I would say not. Like, I've never been in a situation where that was acceptable. No. No. You go on the floor or some big weird bags. That's that's how that works with the pets.

Yeah. You ever take a visit for a walk in a park? Here's another one of those things we're not gonna take Dan's advice on that. Did you want a dedicate? I'm giving you it again. It's even worse when they leave personal items in the bathroom. It's like, you left this towels How did you become such a crotchety old man? How long were you a custodian? It sounds like you did sixty years at like an airport. Three years. I was a custodian for three years. You could write a memoirs book about all the stuff you've been through, man. This thing, don't leave your towels in the bathroom. Someone's left personal items in here. Do how much are these your personal items? Jeez, Andrew. You were you were the old bathroom curmudgeon that nobody wanted to deal with. Yeah. I want you to write one of those posters that's a 99 things to not do in a public bathroom when the janitor's there. Don't deal with me and stay out of the bathroom while I'm cleaning it. Oh, now here's here's the thing. I think the better part about The bathroom troll. Is to let someone clean the bathroom by their lonesome. They're not not going in there at while they're cleaning. I don't think you need to wait an hour. In fact, I don't think you need to wait more than one second after the man has left the bathroom. It's been open for business again. Yeah. But while he's in there scrubbing toilets,

I feel like it's just the better part to put the hold on it for just a minute. Is there an option for another bathroom? Yes. Okay. Use that one. Yeah. Use the other bathroom. No. Here's the if not, then go and use it. Look. They're they're human beings, man. Just roll in there and be like, look. I'm at I'm at nine out of 10. What's the chance of me coming in here? Pretty low. That's fair. Alright. I'm out. And then you go. Just deal with them on a human level. Ask them, look. I'm gonna roll in there and use one of the urinals. Yeah. Yeah. Turtle head. Yeah. Oh, damn. The fun part is when they enter the stall that yet Podcast. Toilet paper replacement. Uh-huh. And you're like, jokes on you. I'm gonna go to the closet with some toilet paper. Not only you're curmudgeon, you're vindictive too. That's messed up, man. I'm just waiting for some blackmail involved in scenario. Come on. That's what talking about. I'd be like, hey, might wanna need this. Gonna need this, like Like, I can imagine you just laughing at them and going I did. I just put down comment on toilet seat. I've left you no way to clean yourself.

What's wrong with you? Take the toilet paper probably. In that situation, it's totally okay to do what Dan said. If you intentionally took the toilet paper, pull the floor. Here's the thing. If you do not provide him toilet paper, he's going to do other things in there that are to your disadvantage. Yeah. Agree. He's gonna wipe it somewhere. It's not my fault. They left. They used they decided to use the restroom while I was attempting to grab toilet paper from the closet to replenish it. Andrew, I very rarely schedule my bathroom visits. They just kinda show up. Nobody consults with a custodian before using the bathroom. I'm coming in about two. No. It's not a sign up sheet with the custodial I like to call it number 2 at two. I'll be there. Hey,

Andrew. Is it alright if I use your perfectly clean bathroom now? Sure. Whatever. Now that your cart is gone, is it okay if I walk in? Yeah. Yeah. If the cart's gone, then you can come in and do whatever. I would crush that cart. I'll be here back next week. I would Reach in and grab that cart and throw it. Carson, you you've taken a role that is inherently support oriented, and you've made it about yourself. I love it. Into a dictatorship. Yeah. Yes. I'm gonna clean this bathroom for me. Yep. Yep. Here we go. Secular says, I don't think there's a rule of etiquette regarding this. Is there is? Of course not. There's a whole bunch of stuff against it. That's because they haven't talked to Carson yet. When the cleaning crew or cleaning king as we have is in the restroom, there's usually a sign posted to that effect. In many cases, if the janitor is a male in a women's restroom, he will immediately exit the room. However, if that doesn't happen, it's then up to the individual to determine if her call of nature is so urgent, it must be heated immediately. So I ran into this way more as a, as an electrician, when I'm in there fixing like a, light fixture or something in a lady's bathroom. And I get in there and I get it half, torn apart. Here come a lady and like, yeah. Oh, no. I'm sorry. Sorry. And then you then you wait, then you come back in, and then you try to do something else, and here comes another lady in there. Like, man, you I thought you guys were supposed to go in packs or something. You don't do what it was. And so, like, you end up just trying to change a light bulb or something. It ended up taking, four hours. You know? But, yeah. I I mean, it it's not that big a deal. I mean, everyone knows you gotta pee. I'm just the guy that works there, so I don't care how long it takes. I'll just, I'll I'll leave. I'll come right back. It's no big deal. Here we go. Dear live from the path.

Yeah. My husband and I have a great relationship. We work in the same school system. He's the administrator. I'm a counselor. But sometimes, we sometimes go to joint meetings. But when we do, he always acts awkward, like he doesn't even know me. I understand we have to behave professionally, but not as if we don't know each other. Recently, we were leaving a meeting and no one was around. I was going to give him a peck on the lips to say goodbye, and he turned away as if he wanted nothing to do with me. Who? What is the proper etiquette when spouses work together? Yikes. Bob? I'm pretty sure PDA is not generally accepted. The pick In general? In terms of a professional relationship, no. Yeah. Well, I know I work with my dad and brother. We don't kiss each other, hug each other regularly. I was about to get you very confused by you relating to this story.

Yeah. I'm trying to relate it. So I guess we don't call each other father, son. I don't say, hey, dad. And that is a little weird. So I just call him Bill, and people look at me weird usually because they know it's my dad. So, I've never worked with a girlfriend or spouse or anything,

but I would I think I would refrain from PDA. And that's the closest thing I get. The only reason I bring it up, that's the closest thing I can relate to is working with a family member, but not calling them, you know Yeah. Dad or father. And especially if he's an administrator and you're in counseling, there's a certain level that administrators have to do in terms of maintaining the standard of etiquette what's appropriate in terms of the office. So yeah, for him to turn turn away from the PDA is actually pretty appropriate for him. Yeah. Agreed. I mean, I don't know what exactly about that meeting got your engine running.

You thought maybe you should throw some emotion his way, but, like, you were you were at work, sir. You know what I'm saying? Like, the meeting was over. The budget looked alright. That's part ways. We can kiss at home. That's why we bought it. Yeah. Wait a minute. That's the reason you bought the house? Nope. Nobody was there. Everybody had left. They were alone. I can't rebut any other life. Is that true? I'm holding on to it. They were alone, and someone can't walk into the room. Yeah. Exactly. That may be true, but is it worth the risk? Well, does nobody know they're not married? Yeah. Wait. They have a and no. There's no time. Like, there's gonna be guidelines as to what you need to do in a school system, of course. It's a peck on the lips. I'm not gonna make Yeah. No. You honestly don't think that's not gonna blow up in our society.

Okay. You you could honestly tell me that's not gonna blow up somebody's face. Yes. It's a peck on the lip. Jim, our society. Someone walks in. They see it. And the story that they're gonna tell is that this administrator was making out with his wife. Even though that's not what was actually happening. Cameras in every hallway. Yes. There are. I know that. The prime reason not to do it. I want to add on this one. What? Yep. Yep. I I don't have a problem with this. They're by themselves in the room. They I mean, it's it's different if they're they're like necking in there. Right? But like, it's giving them a giving a a quick kiss like, what would it say? We're trying trying to be a good standard. Well, you know what? Husband and wives kiss each other. This doesn't seem like a bad standard to me. It seems like normal thing. There's more that husbands and wives do as well, but that's not appropriate for the workplace. That's not gonna happen there. I sure hope that doesn't happen after that meeting. Because then it comes back to Mike. Like, what happened? Can't control myself.

Hey, how many times Ben and I have you and I, like, had a little Middle Eastern, you know, peck on the the cheeks before we leave every every Sunday at church. It does not happen. It's not. Wait. I guess that's. I wasn't really hoping that wasn't gonna go there. The open. Inspired by Bob's opening story. Yeah. That was confusing. I worked with my dad and my brother too. We never in any way kissed each other on the lips or the cheek, forehead. We high fived every once in a while, but that was about it. That seems inappropriate. We could rub beards every once in a while. Exactly. No problem. Hey, man.

Nice beard. I don't have trouble with the peck. Here we go. Segular says, demonstrations of physical affection are not appropriate in a workplace situation if the, if other people are present. Proof. You say you and your husband have a great relationship, so I'm advising you to discuss it. Now hold on a minute. Now if the kiss means why does that kiss mean so much to you? Do you have no faith in this woman? You can't just kiss at home? Like, it's like those people that parent really loud publicly or or the or or the the the couple that insists on sitting right next to each other and groping each other all night at a casual dinner date. You know I'm saying? Like, I have enough confidence in the relationship with my wife that, like, I feel like I don't have to, like, place my ownership on her all the time or make a big hairy deal out. Yeah. No. I don't I'm not saying it has to be done. I'm just saying I don't have a problem if it is. It's the lady who's who's writing in, and she's wondering, hey. Why is it that my husband's not returning my affection? Because he loves you. He doesn't feel any reason to put you on the slaughterhouse sale market in front of everybody. But she doesn't realize that. Oh, I'm sorry. Someone anybody who receives a kiss in public is a harlot? Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Seem to literally Cover your face. I didn't say it. You did.

Now excuse me. I'm gonna read the rest of my report. Because no one was around, there should have been no harm in a simple pet goodbye. Yep. Personally, I think he owes you an apology. Yep. What he did wasn't nice. Preach it. Preach it secular. Oh. It's I cannot think of a here's the deal. Let let's say I even thought that that I wasn't comfortable in that circumstance. I can't think of a case where I would turn my face away from my wife. You know I'm saying? Like, maybe I'll accept this thing and then I say, hey. Hey. Maybe maybe,

I don't know. Something about that makes me uncomfortable. Look. Let's not do that in here. Well, she had, like, dried spinach on her lip or something. Yeah. That's true. Maybe this isn't a maybe this isn't a PDA thing. Maybe she just had something gross on her face. Hey, man. Dried spinach. That means it's been there a while. I was like, that's disgusting. We heard the whole meeting. Were you eating a honey mustard dusted pretzels in the meeting? That's true. It sure looks like it. She got, like, ranch dressing in her mustache or something like I could see how it's a turnoff. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with the PDA. Maybe she's just disgusting. Could be. Sweetheart, we we left in a hurry this morning. I am a 100% certain you didn't brush your teeth. Yeah. Get away. That is a half a banana stuck to your cheek. A whole half a banana. I made that breakfast. I recognize it. It's disgusting. Love you, but you have got to take care of that banana. Here we go. Dear life from the past. How is it even there? Yeah. What is holding that on? It's amazing. We're

just food adherence. You need to shave your cheek. Your cheek beard is holding on to this half a banana. And get your personal items out of here. We're at work. Get out of this bathroom. There's cleaning people in here. I might have I might have to fire you as your boss.

Dear life from the past, my cat, Rosie, seems to be fixated on my next door neighbor, Ron. Every morning, Rosie grooms herself for an hour, then jumps in the window to watch for Ron to go for his morning run. She sits there until Ron comes out of his house. He exercises a lot and has kept himself in shape. While I admit, I have let myself go. Soon as she sees him, Rosie starts purring. Holy cat. I have to say that I resent this. I provide her with rub and board and brush her regularly. Keep yourself together. But while I'm doing it, she watches the window intently and then bolts to her lookout post if Ron appears.

I bought new window treatments when she scratched her way through damaging the blinds and shades. Filling her food just strategically before Ron goes out doesn't deter her. I love my cat, but I feel she is being unfaithful. What should I do? Hold on. PS, I'm happily married. My wife thinks I'm crazy, and Rosie has been fixed. Larry. Okay. Oh, he's a guy. Dude. My calico cat, Rosie, doesn't love me anymore and she's staring at another man. Professional counseling. That's all I got. No. No. This person needs to just divorce his wife and become a cat man and have 50 of them so he could at all times have some kind of relationship with cats.

I am creeped out by this guy. I've read the biblical exceptions for divorce, and I don't recall I want to be a cat man. It's one of those extra biblical things. My cat's having an affair. My my cat's cheating on me. Hey, man. The only reason he knows this is because he has also been spying on Ron for hours last night. Right? I noticed how fit Ron is. Yeah. Yeah. He's looking swole today and Rosie noticed. Yeah. I feel like I would not I wouldn't be able to tell the same story. Like, my like, my writing in my same circumstance would be, hey, the cat stares out the window all the time and it's not really doing anything. Like, not, hey, I stared outside and noticed it's purring at a well fit man Oh, yeah. Named Ron. The cat stared outside, I so laid next to it for an hour and a half and watched what it was looking at. There's one part of the story that I'm not sure I believe in. That's the word happily. Everything else, I can believe. But I gotta ask some questions about that. Here's the deal. When you say my wife thinks I'm crazy, she

she doesn't live with you anymore, friend. There's a couple pillows stacked together with a balloon on the top where your wife used to be. She has left months ago. And and listen to me. You think she married Ron? You think she left him for Ron and now he's like taking it out on the cat? Here's the deal. How long have you owned a cat? Cat's behavior cannot be explained with any type of logical exegesis. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I've seen a cat stare at the corner of a of a room for a couple hours. And then out of nowhere, end up on its back, splayed out in all four directions, just ready to have a nap. Yeah. You know I'm saying? I'm like, there's no explaining a cat's behavior. And so you have I don't know what's happened in your life. You have projected this personality on a cat. Correct. Yeah. Who, to be very honest with you, doesn't even like you. Doesn't like Ron. He just likes food and doing whatever the heck he wants because that's what cats do. And so, like, the cat has no physical affection for you or Ron or anyone else in the world. He just likes to lay down in the sunshine, eat whatever he wants, and poop in your closet. And that's it. That's it. So all these qualities that that he's described attributing to his cat are really truly attributing to himself is what you're saying. Yeah. So it sounds like That's also I was thinking as you were reading it, I thought, you know, the cat really is daydreaming going on the hunt.

Mhmm. The cat wants to eat him. To eat the wrong, the neighbor? The fit neighbor? Okay. Listen to me. When when I don't have the microphone, I'm gonna need you guys to rebut Dan faster. When Dan says things like, the cat is gonna eat wrong. You need to immediately jump on board. You think the cat's sitting there like, hey, swole Ron. You're lucky these windows are here. He's on a good day. Hunt. I don't I don't think the cat's doing that. It's a big metaphor, I think. The whole this whole thing. It reminds me of, like, a radio show when somebody calls in for advice and says, you know, instead of saying, hi. My name is Bob, and I wanna talk about this problem I have. It's

hi. My name is Bob, but I've got this friend who has this problem. I'd like to talk about this that runs by the house every day. I mean, he knows the cat gets up there and actually purrs while he watches Ron. So so combining these two together, we we have a guy who seems to be cannibal perhaps? Yeah. No. I think Is that what we're going for? I think the cat's purring because it's being neglected by its owner who's too busy staring at Ron. Yeah. I wish Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. The owner's just like, hey, swole Ron. Yeah. I noticed how you're incredibly fit. No. I think Well done, sir. The cat envies Ron because Ron gets to run away. True. And I'm stuck in this house with I wish I can go exercise with Ron. My dude just sits on the floor all day watching me watch another guy. What's my existence like? He feeds me at the same time he stares at a dude. It's weird. Okay.

Here we go. Here's secular's advice. This is painful. Dear Larry, what a sad situation. Oh, just don't. Few things are more painful than feeling rejected by a love object. You did Ron. You didn't mention how sedentary you are, but it's possible that Rosie watches Ron because he is a moving object.

That's yep. And you sit on your duff. That's right. Your house is so lack of movement that any movement will the cat will immediately run to. Okay. That goes, hey, Ron. Consider joining Ron on his runs, and you may find Rosie is watching you too. However, if that doesn't work, you may have to share the affections of your cat. Ron, mind if I join you? I'm trying to win back the love of my life. Does that conversation go? Hey, Ron. I've been watching you for a while. Rosie's Hey, Ron. Lift, bro? Because you look like it. Rosie's been taking a a sweet liking to you. And, you know, it I don't know. It just it it makes me feel uncomfortable and it makes me feel inadequate. And I'd really like to spend some time you know, can you show me the ropes Yeah. As to as to how to exercise? And then you'll go, oh, Rosie, is that your wife? No. It's a cat. It's a cat. Cat stares at you, and I don't like it. And I I wanna be fit and swole too. And the cat's probably gonna continue to stare at you. I'm just gonna be out here too under the impression the cat's looking at you. Is it okay if I soak up the attention my cat is giving you? Because I'd love to go for a run. Apparently, I'm sedentary.

Like, how shallow do you have to be? Like, there's there's a there's a lady across the room looking at a really handsome guy. Go stand by that handsome guy. Stand by him and go and to convince yourself, yeah, she's looking amazing. Oh, hey, Johnny Depp. Do you mind if I stand next to you so all the ladies staring at you, I can soak it up to? Do you mind if I put this lotion on you while my cat watches? Which as creepy as that scenario is, we've got to also acknowledge the fact that it's not a lady. It's a cat. My darling Yeah. My darling Rosie. Hey, man. This would've been yeah. It's true. It would've been less creepy if he would've explained Rosie to be his wife Yeah. Rather than his cat. Yeah. Then Or maybe not. I mean, the whole situation sounds a little rough. We don't hold paws anymore. I try to I try to feed my wife strategically before Ron cooks on a plane. I cook I cook delicious meals. I set them out on the table while Ron goes for his runs. She still lays by the window staring at him purring.

Soup's on, honey. I'm gonna go out to the living room. Soup's on. Sweetheart, we're gonna have to pay the living room at approximately $6.25. Can you be here? Holy cow. Busy staring at Ron. I made chicken noodle. Can we make like Ron and just run away from this whole situation? Here we go. We got time for one more. Okay. I'm a 25 year old who has been dating a great guy for a year. The relationship is everything I've ever dreamed of and more. My only concern is that my friends don't seem to care much for them. That doesn't bother me, but what does bother me is they are distancing themselves from me now. I am no longer invited to gatherings. My, quote, best friend doesn't keep in touch anymore, and I have given up on trying to reach out every time. If I do manage to talk to her, she makes an excuse to get off the phone as quickly as possible. I've never done this to any of my friends regardless of whom they were dating or what life threw at them. Is this a normal part of life? Should I consider my friendships? Right. I would ask him what the reservation is. Yeah. Is there a chance that you turned into a jerk after you started dating this dude? Yeah. I mean, maybe they don't like your boyfriend, Ron. Maybe they don't like your boyfriend, Ron, and they don't like you with Ron because you've changed. Maybe because he cleans himself.

Does Ron go for jogs and the cat washes? Here's here's the deal. Like, your whole set of friends doesn't immediately become untrustworthy when you start dating a man. Maybe there's something up. Yeah. Let's be reasonable here. Like, maybe you just got the wrong deal. Maybe he's the wrong man. The only thing that's wrong with him is he doesn't have a job, and he sits in my house all day. My friend friends don't like that. He's a sweetheart to me. He cooks and cleans, but he doesn't do anything. He means well. He keeps a diary. I mean, I have conversation with your friends. However, if he's a long term guy, your friends will be gone at some point anyway, and he won't. So invest in the relationship because your friends are going to change. There's a lot of red flags there, though. You would think

I mean, if they won't even talk to her or return her calls because of this guy she's dating, there's gotta be something off. Who knows what it is. Mean, have you never seen a romantic comedy? He displays all the signs. You start dating a guy. No one else that you've ever known wants to deal with you anymore. It's classic. It takes about an hour and fifteen minutes, but then it wouldn't realize you. He's a jerk. And then, you know, it goes back to normal. He loves the neighbor. Yeah. I mean, you could have catty friends. Like, you could have jealous friend. I mean, it's possible, but then you might really realistically bring into question, why do you are you friends with all these jerky people? Right. Exactly. Yeah. Maybe this is time to cut ties with them anyway. You've got a bunch of conditional friends that are just like, oh, you're with him. We no longer wanna see you or speak to you. Yeah. Some some people just don't do well with with dating and friends. You know, I I've had friends that when you have they have a girlfriend, they just disappear for six months. And then when they break up, I know because they're back. I mean, you know, it could be that. I mean, we just don't know. I have, like, six of those friends. They just kinda disappear. And I'm like, where have you been? They're like, oh, I had a girlfriend. I'm like, what was her name? Oh, it's not important. Like, okay. Well, good to see you again. I don't know why you're not dating anymore.

What's your You talk about her with such affection. Hi. My name is Amy. I don't care. This thing's got about a six month shelf life. Boob was waiting for me. I'm not I'm not gonna see my friends for a while, so let's just get over it. Here we go. Segular says, relationships sometimes ebb and flow. Before reconsidering these friendships, have a frank and honest chat with these women about why they don't like your boyfriend, that your BFF would treat you the way she has is puzzling, unless she's jealous because you spend so much time with your boyfriend or he has offended her in some way. On a different note, does this man have friends of his own? Do the two of you socialize with other couples? Having been together for a year, are you making new friends together? If the answer to these questions is yes, then it may be indeed time to move on from this tribe of lady friends. Man, I don't make no friend couple friends. I don't know. Just I don't know. I don't know how the people do that normally because I mean, I still have my friends. The lady still has her friends. I I have to talk to their husbands every once in a while because they're in the same room, man, I don't know that we go to the gun club or anything it's like, hey. We're coming over to your house, I guess. How's your job? That's pretty much it.

Biff? I don't have I don't have any friends. Okay. Hold on. Does anybody have any friends? I I have a couple. Yeah. Cats. I have a cat named Rosie, but I'm feeling she might be cheating. She's a calico. Hey. Is that who's staring at me as I go running every day? Ben, let's be honest. You are not the Ron in this situation. Ron.

You you are not the you are not the gentleman that's getting older that's staying fit. Yeah. I am. No. Let let's let's cast these characters correctly. You are not Ron. Yeah. I am. I was wondering what that spray bottle of butter been had in front of me. The heck's that, Ben? Don't you worry about it. It's hey, like, sweetie. I bought an ab lounge. There's a couple neighborhood cats that I've It's It's gotten fancy from. It's margarine. I'm worried about my figure. This is less fat. Why isn't it working?

I've been putting this on for weeks. I'm gonna go to the doctor two weeks ago. I've been putting on that third less fat margarine for weeks, and that nothing has happened. And that and that cat licked me once. Now it won't quit staring at me. I knew that shorts were too short. You, sir, have made the mistake of listening to live in the past. Thank you for hanging out with us so far tonight. We very much appreciate it. Here's here's here's one of the worst things about stopping the truth that we're show is that if you have complaints about the show, I'm gonna to fuel them myself. Oh, man. As opposed to here's this was the last week. So if you wanna complain about the show, even the podcast, if you would complain to the radio station, I feel like that's still appropriate. Next week, I'll take back full responsibility the show stinks. Now would be the perfect time to complain about the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. I mean, like to join up. Right? This is there's no consequences. You go ahead and do what you gotta do. If you really love the show and miss it, God bless you. Tell her to somebody.

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