Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the path. And you're listening to Live From The Path. We're coming from the Pathway Studios here in Johnston proper. Sometimes I do pre show stretches. I don't ever get any credit for it because, obviously, it's pre show and no one sees it. But, like, I feel like I've given a lot of effort into this thing and not really getting any return. What do mean? Like, what kind of stretch? Like like vocal techniques or, like, physical

preparedness? Yeah. No. Both, I would say. I mean, to be at the top of my game. Kind of a tie bow thing. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm not sure. Yeah. Is that the first thing that came to your mind was Taibo? That's That's all I got. Here's the deal. I've made more than one reference to Taibo, and apparently, it's out. Like, nobody knows anything about it. I mean, I have to find someone like my age range or older. Otherwise, Taibo is nothing like that. What's the current thing? I I have no idea. Brazilian butt. That

is always the correct thing. Dad's part time job is an exercise namer. Well, when I'm up overnight praying, sometimes I see the commercials. Let's call that suntan bicep. Go. Yeah. So what what is the popular exercise? It was P 90 x. CrossFit. Right? It was P 90 x. Now there's a CrossFit. Is that on its way out? Trevor Pettigrew That's, like, real, though. That's not, like, on TV, though, CrossFit. No. That's true. Like, you go to a gym and they or a place. You know? They're still doing that. So I legit thought that CrossFit was a was a, like, a Christian exercise program. Because everybody on my Facebook has a cross. I'm friends with a ton of Jesus people. Right? And so they're like, I'm a crossfit. I'm like, you guys are really banded together. Know? And it turns out, no. It's just a regular workout thing. It doesn't

apply to, you know, just Jesus people. Hell, yeah. I don't know what the I don't know what the current thing is. Yeah. Well, the, like, the video you can buy type of thing. Yeah. Maybe it's not even videos anymore. You just do a subscription online, and you can they change the things up more, I think. I thought I was gonna do p 90 x. I don't remember why. I think it's because I found, like, the resistance bands for cheap at a garage sale. Oh. And I thought, where that guy's failed, I will succeed. Yes. I thought I was gonna do p 90 x because I found my belly, and I thought I should do something about this. I gave it a swift try, and there was two minutes of at the at the beginner level, and a and a minute five, I was out. I mean, I was literally dying. I thought, why have I killed myself for this? This seems foolish. Yeah. I looked at that guy that was on screen exercising. He's like, you can be like me, and I thought, that doesn't seem worth it. Look at all this effort it takes to be you. Yeah. You leave you leave You're all sweaty and smelly. Yeah. You leave room for desire. Alright. Hey. Hey. Thanks for joining us on Life in the Path. Here's what we got going on this week. First of all, Trevor Penninger is in studio. Trevor? Hello. It's good to have you in here. So for folks that don't know you, give him a little a short introduction as to who you are. Absolutely. I'm the associate pastor at Federated Church in Bondurant.

Went to high school with some of these guys here and, you know, reconnected just recently at a wedding of a great close friend. And so, we talked about Jesus things, kids in ball pits, and all kinds of things appropriate and otherwise. Thought that they'd have me on, and I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me. That's right on. Now how long have you been at, at that, Federated Church in Bondue? About three years. About three years. Come from a business background. Love the Lord, love to volunteer, and, I was asked by my pastor to join staff and never looked back. Here we go. Right on. Alright. So Trevor's gonna be in studio all night helping out. We've got some secular Solomon. We haven't done that in a while. So isn't it? You've had plenty of time to prepare your proverbial skills. Rats. And here's the deal. I was I was I was listening back on some of the previous shows,

and and Boova actually had upped his game. And so Boova is not in studio tonight, which means someone's gonna have to pick it up. That's no problem, Ben. I've always known as the guy that rules this game. Guestman, like, on a scale of one to 10, how prepared are you for secular Solomon tonight? 11.5. Holy cats. Holy cow. Ready to go. Ready to go. This is gonna happen. That's bold. Ready to go. So we'll do some secular versus Solomon. Mike, you have some potential, Pope style? Yeah. Here's the deal. Like, I I I I talked to a guy this week that is in a a situation that we've all been in. And, like, it's it's Want a lottery? Well yeah. And we're all handsome. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just living the dream. You know? But it turns out, like, he's he's been battling, like, this certain sin for a very long time, and this week, he lost. He lost. And, like, the conversation that we had that followed was I don't know. It was it was just really uplifting to me for a couple reasons. And I I don't know if I don't know if that wraps all into a Pope style advice, but it was just a life experience that, like,

I I realized how good God was behind my back. You know what I'm saying? When I ain't paying attention, he's still he's still rocking doing what he does. And, like, even when I forget to look, he's just as true as he's always been. And so, like, I don't know. I'd like to share just a little bit part of that story, and we might round that out to a little advice or a little, hey. Just just keep this in mind when you're getting knocked over by a certain thing that you think that you're failing at. So Okay. Excellent. And then advice on dear life in the past. Mike, did you did you happen to preview any of those? Well, I I perused one. I don't know. I no. Ben, let's just we'll talk about it when we get there. Okay. Okay. I just don't like having my ability to read on display for everybody. You know? I always follow it up. They're like, who wants to read mark two? I'm like, oh, man. And then I say, Jesus wrong or something. Like, it's always a stupid silly mistake that I mess up. I don't like reading in public.

What was there was an article on the that I saw this week about had to do with congregational either singing or reading. I think it's congregational reading is waning in churches. Like, people aren't doing congressional congressional. Congregational reading anymore. They're not doing that either. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So You mean, like, a dude reading for the congregation or, like, the congregation reading together out loud? Reading together out loud. Yeah. Yeah. Dan, have you like, like and and and they say it's falling out of vogue. Like, what do you do you have any thoughts on why why something like that? Because it's creepy. It's hard to do. Like, in college, I went to a couple places. They did it, and I'm like, I don't ever wanna do that again the rest of my life. Okay.

Being being a guy from that era, it reminded me of the seventies Planet of the Apes movies when the creepy people were like, you know, and they just like I thought you kinda you're chanting something weird, and I'm reading it. And it's good stuff you're chanting, but you're sounding like weird. It's got a monk vibe to it. Yeah. I guess so. Cultist monk I think everybody's afraid to leave the monotone. Right? Like, you read with gusto Monotone and mumbling. Right. You're the creepo in the room, and then and then, you know, one guy will read it too fast, one guy will read it too slow. Then there's always the artsy person. And then Yeah. People's like, no. No. You're sticking out now. It's just so I mean, I it's not like I don't see how it should be uplifting. Right? When you say, let's all read read the Lord's word together. They should do a rehearsal. We're like, yeah. That sounds great. And then when you actually put it into practice, it is a frying pan of poop. Or maybe the bouncing ball on the screen, then it'd be like, okay. We can do this. Yeah. It sets the rhythm for you. Yeah. Like a vinegar. You do that at your joint? We don't. You know, we don't. We do it in we do it on special occasions, you know, Christmas time, stuff like that. We read some stuff together. But How many drinks do Christmas, stuff like that? Things like that. Mostly scripture, actually. But yeah. We did it at early twenty something service that I used to go to too, and there was always one screamer guy or something like that who just really chance. Really wanted God to know that he was saying the words out loud. So

Or he brought his own KJV with him, and he's like, he's trying to bust it out of that version. Oh, man. Why everyone else is reading the screen? I had to I we I the Lord's Prayer showed up as part of some teaching this week, and, like, I tried to be like, hey. Let's give this a shot and say it together, and it was a disaster. There's four different versions. Was a disaster. Wait. Are we doing transgressions? Are are are we doing debtors? Are we what? Yeah. Yeah. And I stuck with the debtors, Dan. Thank yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. Go debtors camp. Go vote it's two votes for debtors. Yeah. All the old people are like transgressions. I'm like, boo. And I realized I swapped out hallowed when my when I was teaching it to my kids, like, five years ago for great and which probably isn't quite right,

but then I I realized, like, I I just replaced it permanently in my mind. And so when I was about ready to to fight for the validity of of great, and I thought, no. No. I just chose that out of thin air as a replacement for Aloe. Alright. Anyway, so so it reminded me though, the one time that I've heard this done and I thought, you know what? That's straight up alright. And it happened when I was in Manila. So I was in The Philippines, and, like, some of you guys have heard the story. But, like, right when I got to The Philippines, I was gonna be there for six weeks, and I got there at, I don't know, 11:11PM.

And, funniest thing I ever saw in The Philippines, by the way, is I was getting was leaving the airport, or or in the airport, picking up my baggage and walking out, and there was a sign that said, this is a no Wang Wang zone. And I thought, what the heck? Certainly not. Anything. Said, I don't know. The laws are unnecessarily strict here. And I and then I thought, like, I don't know what what does it mean to Wang Wang? And, like, could I be guilty of it without knowing. Right? Because I didn't Have I done it? It's like, I could be guilty of Wang Wanging in the Philippine airport. And so it it turns out, like, I asked somebody later and apparently, it's it's they they were saying it wong wong, but it's a

it's like the sound of a siren. Like a woo woo. Like the vuvuzela. Not quite a vuvuzela, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was and so what what's a coterie or, like, who people around you. Who am I what am I thinking of? A courtyard. Entourage? Yeah. An entourage. Yeah. And, like, they would be they would be making a bunch of noisemakers and stuff pointing to how important you are. An entourage of Wang Wenger. And and that's and that's where the sign is there for. No Wang Wenger in Philippines Airport. And also I took a picture of it, and I thought this this is awesome. So, anyway, I I get into the hotel,

and it's like, I don't know, finally 6AM by the time I'm supposed to get ready to go to bed. And I walk out the hotel in the in the at the sunrise, and there's, like, this this sign above this, big building that's two blocks away, but you could see it. Right? It's the sun coming over the edge, and it says, in god we trust, about 30 stories up. And I'm like, The Philippines is awesome. Right? So I decided there that, like, I gotta find a church to go to while I'm here. I've been here for six weeks. I can find a church. And so the next Sunday, I just left my I just left my hotel, and I just started wandering around. I thought, certainly, I'll come across something. Something will happen. Because I I wouldn't I didn't wanna take a cab, and I didn't know, you know, I didn't even know what I was looking for, so I thought the Lord will have to provide. And so I wandered around for about an hour. I I eventually ended up in this church, or I saw a sign that had some sort of phrase that wasn't quite it was like, come on in. All are welcome here. And so but there was not a cross or anything on it, but I thought, that sniffs like like Christianese. There might be Christianese going on in this building. And so I I started I walked into the first door that I found, and sure enough, there's like a a Filipino modern Christian church service going on in there. Mhmm. And so I go in, and it's the most frustrating thing being in Wait. Did you do any Wang Wanging when you went in I did. To the church service? I did not. I tried to I I don't have an eye There's no signs there. Right? Mean, it's It's open it's open Wang Wang zone.

So the hardest thing about going to a, a Filipino, Christian Christian morning service, like, the songs are kind of the same. Like, they're singing the same tunes we're singing. They're obviously using the same scripture, but, like, they bounce in and out of Tagalog, is their language. And so most of it's in English, and then every once in a while, they will say something in Tagalog. As a matter of fact, the pastor told, like, three different jokes, and he would always propose the joke in English, and then the the payoff for the the punch line would be in Tagalog. And I lied three times in that service because I laughed as as though I I understood the punch line. Because he would say it, and everyone would bust out laughing. I thought, I stick out already. I'm a foot taller than everybody else here, and I'm sitting, in the front row. And, I didn't wanna be look like I'm the guy that didn't find it funny. So I'm like, and my my heart had darkened that day because I was telling lies with my laughs in the Filipino church service. And the laugh kept going longer because everybody there's a he doesn't know what he's laughing at. He doesn't know. There's a double joke. It It, right. It could've been it's probably aimed at me. Yeah. The white man at the front is the punch line. It started off funny. It got funnier. I'm fairly certain too, though, that The Philippines, that's where the the priest was on the hoverboard

during a mass. Yeah. He got in big time trouble for that. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was. They're on the front lines. Those guys are on the front lines of the movement of the Holy Spirit on hoverboard. You here's the deal. You know, but based upon some of the way that the the churches and services are set up, like, who evangelized there? Like like, which denomination made it there first? Because there's just certain things going on in the country. You're like, I see that's carried around for the last hundred and fifty years.

What what what was the problem with the hoverboard? Why why did they why did they frown on that? I think the Holy Roman Catholic Church might have some tradition in their You know, they've always been anti hoverboards. They've never been hovers. You know? Like, they're behind closed doors. They hate it, and then finally, it leeches out, and you're like, I always knew it. I always knew they didn't like hoverboards. Benedict wanted one. They're like, no. You're out of town. No. That's why they got rid of him. Yeah. He he was too he was regressive in every other area except for the hoverboards. It's like we've got we gotta sink all of our time and effort in this, boys. This will get everybody back. This is the make or break it. The Unitarians got hoverboard. Look at them. They're exploding. They they didn't even worship anything. They got they're growing because of hoverboard. So anyway but but look. Very, very unnecessary long story short.

So they did a group scripture reading, and they rocked it. I mean, those guys were dead on. They said it together, and, like, people were not having trouble getting get going to the right or the left, Old Testament style. Like, mean That was a Catholic church, said, though? No. No. No. No. That was a different It was like a non denom, like, modern worship service there. You know? Big big screen, full band, plenty of Tagalogs. And so, anyway, like, I thought I walked away from that thinking that, like, having the same reaction. Like, generally speaking, congression congregational scripture reading is weird. But, like, part of that, I I think, is our culture stuff is, like, we stink at it. We stink. We don't talk loud. We don't sing loud. Like, we kinda mumble. We hope someone else takes over, and we can follow them. But, like, we're just we're not bold, and we're not, like, we're not, we're insecure, basically. And but these guys were loud, and they were consistent and, like I mean, they hung in there. This wasn't, like, four verses either. I mean, they guy had, like, almost a whole chapter of scripture from John that they all read together, and I was quite impressed,

leaving that church service. The only time I've actually heard it done somewhere where it was done really, really well, and it had energy and and a cool vibe to it. Everything else is either people are kinda slogging along or they're repeating after a guy, and it does. It's it's very monastic. It's very like a a droning, and you're like, certainly, scripture doesn't this isn't the real cadence of scriptures. It's kinda droning Is living an act living will kinda boring. So so to sum it up, if I wanted the last thirteen minutes of my life back Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In god we dressed our I would've said, I've heard this done well once in The Philippines. You bet. I think that was the point. Regal us with more tails, Ben. I just bared my soul to you.

Alright. Alright. Alright. Fine. Fine. That's all I have. I feel bad now. Go ahead, Mike. What you feel bad, Ben? Wait. Wait. Wait. So Pinnacle, what what's what's going on in your life? Like, what do you have what what are you running into that's of interest to the broad world of ministry these days? It's just a lot of things, you know, and I work with teens on a daily basis. And regularly, we're trying to get into schools, try and make sure that we make our presence known. I'm working through students, though, too and seeing what they experience. There's so much going on in terms of divided attention today and divided people in general.

You know, what I see a lot is that churches now, for a large part of our population, just another activity, and it's just on another day of the week. You know? So seeing that and seeing where we put our faith and time and money and energy, is disappointing, but at the same time can be encouraging as well. Look at technology. The technology that we have right in this very room, the ability to put on a live radio broadcast,

yet at the same time, you know, we got students who cannot put down their phones to save their lives. We're entertained constantly. I've got a theme song that goes with me everywhere I go because I've got this technology tied to me. We're the most amazing, advanced, efficient society ever. I can make dinner in ten minutes, yet at the same time, I've got an extra thirty five minutes, and I fill it with complete garbage. So it's interesting,

what our students have to deal with and go through. And the way that we specialize things now is so unique too. I was working with a student earlier today, and they were, experiencing some trouble because they're very passionate about dance. Dance is something that makes them, happy and excited,

but it's not like it was once. I remember being young and being a a huge baseball fan and being in Little League and playing in Little League, but I didn't remember, you know, traveling teams and weekend tournaments and all these things that took us away from so many different variety of opportunities. So it's just interesting in in general what we, go through right now and trying to make sure that students feel like they're welcomed back

and ready to serve and all those different variety of things. A lot of things going on right now for us and had an opportunity to meet a lot of great people. I would encourage people to be in fellowship with other pastors, other youth pastors, other different people. It's so uplifting. So I I'm always encouraged to hear you guys talk about the ways that you've gone out with coffee with different ones or or talked with different ones and been uplifted, had a conversation with a guy who's going through a tough time, Mike. I love that. So, yeah, those types of things going on. So so

how I I like that. And, it's it's really interesting to think about, the the progress of our society and then comparing, like, what what does it leave in its in its wake or what are consequences of it. Right? Because sometimes, like, it's easy to label progress always sounds positive. And generally speaking, it is, but, right, like, there are consequences, like, tie as times change, times change. Right? Things differ. Things alter and things are impacted by those types of changes. And so there's kind of a dichotomy that says, like, if you're not moving with it, you're, you're being left behind. But also, like, you you have the vantage point of seeing how how our real what are the impacts of our reality shifting

and, like, where do we need to stop and and take note or, assess and say, like, is this is this actually a a positive thing or how do you do this in a positive type of way? And I suppose what's interesting is, like, coming from, kind of what you were talking about, the the youth is where is where it lands. Right? Because like that's that's the reality. Like, we are the older you get, the more you're part of shaping the world that you leave behind you or that you're in. Like, you're part of managing it and and creating it and and advocating or pushing for it. But the reality of those types of things actually lands on a different generation, of which they they may or may not have all that much control over. And so, like, they're actually seeing the consequences of our decisions and things, and it's and that's a different reality than the one that I'm in or the one that you're in.

And so trying to figure out how to maybe that's where you actually see kind of the rubber hitting the road, I guess, because like we can we otherwise have some advocacy of our own realities, but as pushed on to a generation who are simply accept it for what it is and have to live in it. I wonder if that's kind of what a lot of different innovators experienced. You know, this technology comes about and then all of a sudden, you've just got to learn how to manage it. You know, you think of, like, Einstein or Edison or Nikola Tesla, where they dealing with issues. This is all happening so quickly that I'm just trying to keep my head above water. I'm not great at Twitter or Snapchat or Facebook,

but, you know, our students are. They're spectacular at it. And so where I might have difficulty staying up with the times, they've grown up in it. They don't know anything else. And so, let me paint a picture for you. Sunset on the Gulf Coast Of Florida. You're sitting on the beach,

you know, the sun's about to set and it feels like that sun goes down in about ten seconds. And it's just so beautiful and perfect, and you're there with your wife, and you're having this amazing emotional god moment where you're saying, lord, you are this amazing, beautiful creator,

and I don't know how you made this picture happen for me, but I can see it so clearly, and there's no way that this could have been put forth by any other entity. God, you made this. But you look at it from the viewer, the the vantage point of a teenager and you're thinking,

oh, man, I gotta get this on my phone. I gotta get this video right because I'm gonna snap this out later and I wanna make sure that when it posts, we get a lot of retweets or a lot of people, you know, post it. So, can I get the video right? Can I get it captured the right way? And instead of being still and know that I am God, you're caught up in the movement. What's the first thing you do when you wake up in the morning? Right? You grab your phone and No. See what We just talked about this. Mike picks his phone up and reads I do not. Ignore his wife and kids. No. My alarm goes off and it says breakfast with grace, and that's what I do. Oh, yeah. That's true. Shame to you. No. No. Oh, wait. So it's interesting though that that that picture, like, it takes something that is a gift to us and becomes something that we then own. Right? Like, I don't I I'm supposed to I'm I can take in that sunset Yeah. And experience it as something that I am to receive.

And you're right. Our reaction then becomes, how do I then capture that and then redistribute it out as something that is now associated with me? Take ownership of something that God created. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, I look at how great I am because I got the perfect picture. Mhmm. Right. And really, ah, boy, then think of what a facade your life is, Mike. Think of what a facade it is. Specifically, Mike, I'm a second rate guest. That's for sure. Right. Right. You didn't you didn't create the sun. You didn't invent the phone. You're you're fortunate that your circumstances even led your salty behind to sit in the sand and look at this thing. The only thing you really did was pull said impressive piece of technology, point it at the thing in a broad way and click the button. That's it. And then now you then you send it out to the world and be like, adore me for this. Well, see that We live a lie. See, well, that's the thing that he's talking about. And like, when you get to the root of that, it's it's it's affirmation. Right? Like,

do they have man That's not a teenage problem, though. Right? No. Everybody. Everybody. That's the thing. It's not a teenage problem. I man, I me and the girls talk about this all the time. Right? Like, is it is it good in a room by itself? Is it just as good in a room by itself as it is in a room full of people? Because if it's true then, then it's good. That's the way that it works. Right? So, like, let's say you you did happen to catch this sunset. First of all, I will never capture that. Right? Like, I can give it the best shot I can in a million pixels, but the truth of matter is I cannot I cannot recreate that for you. You missed it. You missed it. Same thing with people with concerts recording that jazz on their phone. Something wrong with you. You're missing the whole thing. You know, they're like, I got a picture of Aerosmith. Well, I heard the song, and he looked at me. And so that's what happens when you look at him. No. Yeah. It's always it's always weird. Like, you can go online and there's hey. Hey. There's a bunch of amateur video of the Bon Jovi show. I'm like, of a guy with cell phone using the most rudimentary I mean, of the available technology to capture a concert, I got the rudimentary coverage of the man 20 back using the cell phone speaker. And we're like, yay. Can I check that out? I'm like, what? Surrounded by a bunch of drunks going Going through a I mean, through a a centimeter speaker

that the phone gives you. Right? I was there. It's deafening and awesome, and it's full bodied, and it'll blow your hair back. And you're capturing it on a microphone, you know, that that's fit for a nineteen twenties radio show and putting it on the net. You've missed it, friend. You've missed everything that people are offering, everything that God is offering because you wanna condense it down to a pocket sized version that you can keep with you. Yeah. What we're we're perpetuating the inch deep. Yes. Right? Exactly. We're perpetuating the mile wide inch deep as opposed to, like we're just not frankly, we're not good at it anymore as we stink at going the mile deep. It's true it's true in relationships. It's true in, like, how we take in the world. And I say we because I'm indicting this is true for me. Like, I really have to force myself to hang around for a mile deep as opposed to just be happy with, inch deep on 50 relationships as opposed to having a mile on five and then watching that grow from there.

It with the things that we interact with. Right? Like, hey. I wanna we we define well rounded person as as a stretched thin person inch deep on all those things as opposed to being someone who is a a mile wide on three or four really important things. And it's just a, and it perpetuates itself because and I think, Mike, this is what you're getting at, because we seek affirmation, and validation and identity all from the wrong places. Exactly.

Exactly. And, like and here's the thing, and may maybe that is just a throw of nostalgia to me, but, I go, one of the things that and we talked about this a couple weeks ago was that stupid renaissance fair that I enjoyed. But, like, I mean, there's guys in there making pottery, and that's what they do. They're good at it too. Yeah. Right? Like, they are really good at it. They love what they do. They're not like, yeah. I'm a part time computer hacker. I also work in an insurance industry, and then I plow snow in the wintertime. The guy's like, I make cups, and they're awesome. Look at them. They're $40 pop. You want one? Yeah. I do. You made them, and they're cool. And no one else can make me a cup like that. They can print them all they want in Malaysia, but this guy made a cup that only he can make, and this is what he does. And I'm like, I'm blown away by this. Right? Like, some of the like, the way that we used to do do work in this country with the with the apprentices that, like, that's it. You're not just the the blacksmith. That's what you do. You are Steve the blacksmith. It basically is your new last name. You do blacksmithing. And you were you were the blacksmith from, like, '13 to '90. Yeah. That's that's that was you. And you didn't dabble in maybe cutting your own chickens because there's a butcher man who cut the chickens. That's not you. And what you didn't do is waste all your time being a jack of all trades and a master of zero so that you all your time was being spent being the jack of all trades. You know how much time that takes up? When when really if you just put your hat down and say, I'm the butcher from eight to 05:30. And then after that, I'm not the butcher no more. I'm a husband from the rest of the time. I'm a husband and I'm a and I'm a dad and I and I'm a church leader and I'm sometimes I walk down the road with me and my cow, and we talk life. And that's good times. But, like, there's not 10 neighbors coming over here and 10 guys from over here and be like, hey. Do you work on farm equipment? Hey. Can you help me roof my house? No. I'm I'm the butcher. I do butcher things, you know. And, like, there's I I it's oversimplifying. I get that. Right? But there's there's something about taking a life that was given by God to be

there's nothing about the life that he portrays in the Bible for his kids as being complicated. He there it never says anywhere in the bible says your life's gonna be complicated. We make it that way. Yeah. We we we purposely add weird tangles and and misfits in there and, like, to our own detriment. Right? Like, we miss we miss joy because we're too we're too concerned that it might be spread out among 20 things. When God says, I got plenty of joy right here, right in this area I gave you, and you're you're you're boxing the bubble. Like, just get me out. You know? I I talked about the girls about this. Because, obviously, I mean, I got I got kids and they're grade school, and we have technology battles at my house. It's just the way it works. Like, how much? It's how much is too much? What can they watch? What shouldn't they watch? You know? Are they mature enough for this? Blah blah blah. All this stuff, I'm trying to pan through and decide what I actually think. And, like, I basically sat them both down and I said, we're gonna read the Tower of Babel. That's what we're gonna read. And I want you to to we're gonna go through this story and after that, I want you to overlay what you do with your spare time and what you do with your technology. And then I want you to come tell me what you want to do. And both of them, well, the younger one, no. No. She didn't make good decisions. But the older one got what I was getting at, right? Like just look at what you're doing. Look at what you're building. Look at what you're replacing. Look what you're trying to do without.

And and I think that she got it, especially the older one. The younger one just insisted that Barbie should I mean, she has a good cartoon. It's it's kinda funny. You should watch. It's not bad for a cartoon. But other than that, like, she she got the point that I was trying to make, and she was old enough to kinda start putting that together is is, you know, when you say that we are we we save food, we can cook dinner in ten minutes, and we entertain ourselves the other 50, that's dead on. That is dead on. No one can no one can even watch the microwave cook anymore. They're like, well, I got thirty seconds. Hang on a minute. Need to breathe, put out a new video somewhere in a warehouse. I gotta check this out. You know? I mean, really? Did you did you really? And, like, I'm guilty of that just like everybody else, but I'm I'm fighting I'm fighting for it. I think I think it's something worth fighting for. Well, it's incredible too. I mean, I'm a I'm a big football fan, big football fan. And we're here in the state of Iowa, but I'm a fan of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. I'm so sorry, you know, that not not everyone's perfect. But you look at the advancements in technology even to that degree, you know, how can we make our athletes bigger, faster, stronger? And it's not always positive. But in this case too,

they said, you know, our players need to do this. We're gonna test this out. We're gonna try this out. We're gonna have you guys wear sunglasses. And you're gonna wear these special sunglasses two hours before you go to bed each and every night this week and especially the night before a game. What they were doing here is they were filtering the blue rays that were coming off of the televisions and the devices, the tablets, the phones because what they were finding is they had these studies that said these brainwave activities are stimulated. They're not getting proper sleep

because they've been watching these devices before they've gone to bed. So their idea for combating that with these, you know, these teens and twenties people was to give them glasses to to filter the rays that might actually keep them awake a little bit longer. So I mean, technology is just moving as fast as you can let it go. Another question, another interesting thing too that that I wonder about, and I don't know the exact answer for it because I'm just not that old. What was pre flood

life like? There are some people that dispute or talk about the level of technology in the time before Noah's flood. Could there have been computers? Could there have been cars? Could there have been internal combustion engines? Dan, Dan? That is the best question probably ever in the history

of life in the past. Dan has brought up this exact same Have you really? Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, really? How? We don't know. Well, no. It was all destroyed. If that's the if if if let's say that's even possibly a reality. Noah is the worst ship builder ever. It took him forever to build that ship. He seemed to work. They got CAD drawings. They got ability to get lumber in, and he's doofed. Yeah. A workforce. He had three guys. He could had had a forklift, you know, when he's building, you know, the ark. And so those types of questions are interesting ones because Very. What do you have what do you need to rebuild society? Mhmm. Do you need a guy who can make an iPad? I don't think so. You need a guy who can make a fire. Yep. So, you know,

what direction are we headed? We know Jesus is coming back soon, isn't he? I mean, look at our society. Look look at our yeah. There here's the thing is I was just having a conversation with a guy the other day about, like, human arrogance. Right? Like and and and Western civilization, definitely. But, like, there was they were upset. They're like, hey. The the because of the droughts in California. And they're like, well, the water's also running low in Las Vegas. I'm like, you built

a giant city in the middle of the desert, and you wanna know why the water low. Didn't see that coming. I mean, what kind of human arrogance goes? You know where we should put this massive city that needs a bunch of water probably in middle of this desert, and then we'll pipe it in from other places and no one gonna notice. And they named it Atlanta. Unbelievable. Alright. Hold on. I found the clip of of Dan Dan's no other future. Hold on. Wait. When's that from? This is dating back hold on. 10/14/2011. Yes. That's that's a five year anniversary of Dan's Noah of the future discussion. Okay. Hold on. Here here we go. Alright.

That's true. Maybe Noah was checking the forecast. He's like, oh, boy. He wasn't kidding. We better get on this boat. Do it. John Bachman says big rain. Big rain are coming. Yeah. We always think of him, like, cutting down trees with an axe. Like, man, that was a big job for him. It's like, who knows? They maybe had a computerized factory and and and he's had a who knows? I don't know. I don't know, Dan. That's kind a stretch. I'm not really on board with what you're saying. Well, I know. I I I don't even know if I am. I just I just I mean, it sounds often wonder. It sounds pretty cool and all, but I don't know that I'd give that more in a couple minutes. I'm just saying maybe the Jetsons, Jetsons, there's more truth to that than you know, and that's really our history. You sure you don't know Tom Cruise? I love a Jesus, Oprah. I love a Jesus. Crazy

dance crazy dance future future past. Noah the cosmonaut. Guess I don't I guess would I know what we're doing after the crazy love sermon series? This is my Planet of the Apes upbringing. See, the whole space time continuum things shift. Holy

cats. What are the odds that he mentioned Planet of the Apes? This is classic. So to be fair, that was universally panned by me five years ago, and I feel like I'd be cowardly not to stick with it. That I think that's absolutely not true at all. It's just phooey, It it could be. You know, there's a book out there too, that's called We Are Not the First, and it's not it's by a secular author. It's not by a Christian author, but it describes some archaeological finds that are unexplainable. You know how many people out there you turn on Netflix and you see, you know, aliens

built the pyramids stuff all the time. So we shouldn't be too surprised that we're finding all kinds of crazy things. But it's a good question. You know, what was the technology like before they had to start over? You know? And that was the reset button. Right? And what's our how close is our society to to that reset button? I can't take these affirming eyebrow raises from Dan. I can't take them. This Dan's just singing his heart song over here. Like, preach on, brother Trevor. Preach on. Crazy cosmonaut Noah. Build the ark. Right? Where's the landing gear? We don't need it, Noah. We're using water. Water? But we've been traveling through air all this time. Do your job, Noah.

Cut your mouth and build the ark like I told you. I'll take away that wretchedness. We I mean, we have to write all this down like a bunch of reprobates. That's right. We can just pass thoughts together through our heads. Hey. You've been listening to Live From The Past. I'm not sure why. Anyway, Trevor Pettyger is in studio with us. Dan will not be able to be talked down from this high for months, certainly.

I don't know what to do with Now I'm conflicted with my life. I now have to move Dan some of Dan's stuff into a quasi serious column. It's gonna it's gonna change some things about what I think. We're gonna have to make a column. Okay, Mike. You got some I got some advice? Yeah. What's the pope's someone someone has mistaken you for the pope. The what? Yeah. Yeah. So so I heard this it was on the net this week. You know, people don't use our Twitter account, but all of a sudden, people would be like, tell Pope Pope Mike to give me the blessings. And I said, I you know, I don't know what you're talking about. Well, But it shook out, though, that they are under the impression that you are the pope. And the only way that this person can be bought off or stop leaving us loaned online is for you to give some sort of advice like the pope does when he comes out on the balcony and and blesses the people. Right. Right. So so pope Mike, you better you better you gotta give it to the people. Well, mean It's for the people. Yeah. I don't I don't deal with online harassment well, so I guess we're gonna have to do something.

I was having a conversation with a guy last couple days, and there was one one particular sin. He's you know, he's had a life apart from Jesus as we all have. Right? And and, like, he's recently come to know him, and it's it's changed him. It's changed him. And but there's still stuff from his past that comes up and stuff that he's still fighting and stuff that he's having a hard time with. And and he wins more than he loses, but every once in a while, he still loses. And and this last couple this last week, he he lost one. And I I didn't know that. You know? Like, I I just happened to to roll up on him, and and he was kinda giving me this dead stare. And I'm like, oh, man. So I get out of the car. I'm like, hey, man. What's going on? He goes, look. I've been praying last fifteen minutes and I need to tell you something and I need you not to get angry. I go, well, I can't promise that. What is it? What is it? Is it bad? You know? And he said, I I messed up. And here's what I did. And I said he goes, are are you angry? And I said,

you know, every bit of me wants to be angry, but God's grace don't work like that. And I'm I'm working on mine not working that way either. And so I I'm glad you told me. Let's let's let's move on, you know. And so we got to do what we were doing, and he was bringing it up. And he was just so disappointed in himself that it had happened. He's like, I don't understand. I don't I don't wanna do this, and these and these thoughts just come in my head. Like, here's the thing to do. And all of a sudden, without without thought process, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. We do we do it. And he and he goes, as soon as I've done it, it's instant shame, instant guilt, and I just I wanna get past this portion of my life, where I'm fighting this. And I'm like, well, you know, I got some good news and some bad news for you. He said, the bad news is, you're every guy I've ever met. I mean, that's just the way it works. It's it's it is a fight. It's a battle. And I said, but here's the deal. Like, you own this home, and and you let Jesus in it. And he he building walls. And he's building walls up. And, like, today, you let the devil in the front door. And he sat down in your parlor, and, he made you some promises, and you said, well, that that sounds aggressive. And then you went you tried a little bit of his promises, and you went, no. Wait. Wait a minute. No. No. You've been in here before.

I know you. Right. You come in. You fart in the chair. You fart in the chair. You act like you own this place. And I said, but here's what I want you to remember because this is the best part. Not only did you look him back in the eye, you said, know you. You've been here before. I'm gonna ask you to leave and I'm gonna ask you to take that lie I was gonna tell with you. And I said he walked back out the door smiling because he coming back. But you told him to take that lie that you were gonna tell me to cover it up with him. And I said, that is no small thing. And that don't happen in houses where Jesus ain't building walls. And I said, it's it's gonna happen and it may it may happen less and less to you that maybe he gets to the front door next time and you're like, hey, man. Has wait a minute. Wait a minute. I recognize you. I said, but you have to it's not it's not an instant everything's gonna change today kinda thing, But you gave Jesus permission to come up there and set up shop, and he's doing it. And you and you sent him packing. You didn't let him live there. You didn't let him stay for a couple days. You didn't say, oh, man. As long as long as he's here, I guess he just as well party. That's not what happened. He got in farther than you wanted. You picked him out for what he was. You told your sin. It's time to go and take that other sin with you that I'm gonna use to cover this one up and leave. And like he he said, I never thought about it from that perspective. And I thought, crap. I never did either. Like, I was talking like I'd believed this for years.

Only to realize that, like, this applies to me. Everything that was coming out of my mouth is stuff that applies to me and I am just as guilty of. And I had never put it through that through that same filter. You know? Like and and he has when he was explaining it, I'm like, he has the exact same heart that you'd hope anybody would have for Christ. Like, why am I such a screw up? Why do I keep doing this? I don't wanna do this, Paul says. Yeah. Says Paul from thousands of years ago met Jesus face to face blinded, taught, learned, spent his whole life, murdered,

and then here's me, two thousand years later going, why do I do things I don't wanna do? I don't wanna be a part of this. Right? And, like, I'm watching him struggle with this and not understand how all this grace and hope and love can come from a God who loves him and he is failing to hold up his end of the bargain, you know. And I'm like, trust me, man. That that's that's weighing it it will weigh on you until you realize that God's opinion of you did not change at all. Right? He's like, I'm working on the walls. Don't let them in here. And then you'll sneak them in, and then you'll ask him to leave, and Jesus will build up more walls. And, like, until then, sometimes you gotta borrow someone else's walls. Right? That's why we have community. That's why we have people that we follow. That's why we mentor people. That's why we follow Christ and take someone with you. Because for the for a while, they're gonna need to borrow your walls too because Jesus is working on theirs. And before they realize it, then they're gonna have a pretty sturdy house where the strong men don't matter. Boy, man, I I really like the I never thought about that. Jesus is the renovator. Like, Satan coming in, like, some something in your life. Right? Sin starts to destroy your house, punch a hole in the wall. And by the time you turn around and be like, Jesus, I need help. He's like, I'm on it. I said it right. I'm on it. I got guys. We're done. It patched the wall. We're all good to go. I threw out that chair. It's not we can't keep it. This patched wall, this is what's best for you. I'd like you to stick with that. Please don't let him in here anymore. And here he comes. Jesus goes, I'll patch it up. It's no problem. Don't let him pass the front gate, though. He caused him trouble. And so it it was I guess my broad advice is is like, this is not really a a cartoon version of, you know, Satan and God. That's not really what I was going for, but it was a point that I was trying to drive home is that like sin it just works like that, especially persistent sin, one that has you feel like it separates you from God to the point where after you've done it so many times, you don't even wanna face him anymore. You don't wanna pray to him. And, I've been there. I get it. Right? I've learned from my experience with knowing Jesus that that's not an option for me. Even when that happens again, I'm right back down on my knees, and I say, it's your son. And I've done this, and I let him in the parlor. And you know I was gonna do it, and I'm sorry and I don't wanna feel this way, but most of all, I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna be apart from you the way that I am right now. And and you you'll get there. And so my pope style advice is, if you're struggling with anything like that, I don't care what persistent sin is. God knows you got it.

His opinion of you did not change. His opinion of you as a son of the king, gracious and loved, righteous before the father, it did not change. And I know that's really hard to believe, but so is God's love. And so, like, if you're willing to buy into the fact that someone would take your punishment just to reconcile you back with that person, back with that entity, just to say, I want you close to me. This is what's best for you. And since you can't do it on your own, I will take all your punishment for you just so you can be close to me. You're willing to buy into that. Then you've got to be open to the fact that

his opinion of you does not change based off the sin he knows you're going to He's wanting to edify you and sanctify you and bring you closer to him for your joy and his glory. It's a two fold thing and that's the way that it goes. And so just don't Try not to get buried down in there. And if you're having a hard time getting up out of that out of that shackle, a, you know, that's a perfect thing to be praying about. And b, it's a perfect thing to have other people pray for you about and talk it over with them. There's people that have already been through that stuff. They see what it is, and they know what it looks like, and they know it by name. And you are certainly not the only one dealing with that. So get off my lawn. Get off my lawn? No kidding. You know, my father always said, you know, it's impossible to sin if you're fully engaged in prayer, if you're always talking with God. I I wonder, being in that situation, is it better or worse to surround yourself with scripture and God and and anything that can remind you of the way you should be, or is it more guilt? What's the answer?

Ready, go. I think it depends. I really, to be honest with you, because I've done both. Right? I've done both. I've ran and eventually came back, and I've jumped right back into scripture. And it it was pretty gray. It was pretty convicting to me. Mhmm. And not in a good, helpful, I know I'm loved kinda way. More like You're scum kind of way. I'm I I've really done this this time. Right? Like, I don't understand. I I of course, that's just a blindness towards God's love for me and who he says he is and what he does. Right? Like, that that's a blindness that I temporarily choose to be blind of. I know better. I know what it looks like. I know how it feels. I know I know the story. I know the way it goes. I know who God is. I know the way he feels about me. I choose to ignore that. I choose to be blind about that and act like it's something bigger than it is. I shouldn't say I don't wanna diminish it, but, act like it's it's insurmountable and it it's not. I don't even do the surmounting. Jesus does all this stuff, you know. And sometimes it's just you you don't know people in your life this gracious. Right? There's perfect pictures. There's perfect cell phone pictures

of God's grace and love, which are people's versions of God's grace and love. There's cell phone pictures of that everywhere you go. But like to take in the whole thing, it's not believable. Like it is not believable until you've experienced it. And even then, you don't even know if you can trust it. Like it's so outrageous that the grace that you're given and the way that this God operates, I you can't even logically explain it. That's why it's so hard to have a, like that's why I have a hard time with apologetics arguments with with people who don't know Jesus. It's a spinning wheels conversation

because without the grace of it's unbelievable anyway. It is completely not fathomable that love exists like that. And then trying to back it up with science and love that they don't believe in the it's just it's a real hard conversation unless that's where they do battle. You know you know how that's interesting how that kind of ties back to what we were talking to, right? Because like it's being able to actually grasp something a mile deep. Like being able to get past even our shallow understandings of certain biblical concepts, right? Like our, even someone who's like,

I I don't I don't wanna use air quotes here, but like matured in the Christian faith has some varying degrees of understanding what forgiveness looks like. Right. Right? Like, oh, yeah. No. I forgive that guy except for, you know, he divorced me four years ago, and I'm really pissed. Yeah. He sucks. And I'll passive aggressively say things to the kids or Facebook. But, you know, I've kinda let it go. I'm like, no. You haven't. I think I think that's maybe why why partially why why Paul to the Ephesian church, you know, was said he prayed that they would comprehend the the breadth and the depth and the width, the length of of God's love for us in Christ, you know, that that we don't get it. Right. You know, we can academically, can fill in the blanks, but

there's so much lacking in in getting it, I mean, comprehending it. Right. And and this is a lifelong process, and then we get to see them face to face and go, oh. Right. Why do we why do we have to understand everything? That's a that's a big question I have too. You know, we we talk so much science. We talk so much about how, how there's, you know, conflicting stories, and science says this, and faith says that, and all these things. But I don't I certainly don't view them as against each other. I view them as in perfect synchronization I agree. In the way that it works. And you read in your bible, you read in the book of Genesis about how the earth was formed and and all of these different things. It's so funny.

You know, I I was reading in another book, and it was, I can't remember the name of it, but, it was by a mathematician, a person who's from the academia side. And they were trying to say, you know, these different people who are atheists can't disprove anything because they always find themselves going into a field that they don't know about. And what I grasped from that was God is every field

in every single way. His sovereign power is so huge and powerful that it's not possible to say, well, mathematically, it's not possible for the earth to be done in six days, and and you're discounting god. And, you know, that, you know, people that are cosmet it's not cos cosmetologists. Right? Makeup and hair. I love your nails. They hear everything.

Cosmology, you know, these experts who are are talking about how the universe is is formed and created and all these I, you know, I was listening to another Christian radio station this morning, and they were talking about, energy surges throughout the universe and how they can be so powerful and helpful in terms of understanding angelic beings and angelic things. And the

mysteries of God are being revealed to us on such amazing ways if we just open ourselves up to them and we don't act so hard hearted. Get ready for the fall. Right? If you're a person who is saying that these things aren't true,

I look at the way that pharaoh acted towards, you know, the Hebrews, and and God hardened his heart on purpose so that a huge example would be made of him. You know? He keeps you know, Moses keeps coming back. Dude, this bad stuff's gonna happen. I don't even want it to happen to you because we're we're bros, but, you know, god hardens his heart so that this amazing tragic thing happens in his family before he allows the Israelites to to finally go on to the promised land. It's it's amazing stuff, the mysteries.

It's it's heavy stuff. It's cool stuff, but it's that's definitely a mile deep if you're willing to dive into the waters. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've had this conversation with our our youth every once in a while about science being just it's just an explanation of how God did something. That's really all it is. And when they when they get down to it, the they're like, that's why this is just a theory. Well, Jesus operation is not on a theory. Right? It's a whenever they get into a blank gray area and they go, this is why a theory because we can't prove it. And I'm like, here's the deal. If I'm willing to believe of this grace that that the Lord produces and that he had anything to do with making this world at all, I can pretty much chalk up just about anything to, yeah, that's what he wanted done, and then it happened. The the the day that the sun don't move, I mean, if that's what he said was gonna happen, that's enough for me. I don't I don't know whether I need to question a whole bunch of stuff. You know?

Well, faith like a child. Right? I I mean, I've worked so hard to be so smart, and all the guys in this room are incredibly intelligent and can speak well in almost any company. You know, I'm probably not gonna talk about astrophysics or anything like that, but at the same time, I worked so hard to seem so smart, and yet being dumb is what really gets me there. You know?

The ones who will enter the kingdom are the ones that believe like a child. And having that sure faith, you know, I tell my son that I'm going to catch him if he jumps into the water. He believes me. And I believe that if I jump into the water, that Christ will catch me. So, we gotta have that faith. Right? We make it so hard, don't we? Yeah. Yeah. I think we are, sometimes we spend a lot of time trying to figure out the right way to chase someone who's chasing difficulty because they don't wanna necessarily address the simplicity, as opposed to kinda just waiting them calling back to the simplicity. We kinda follow them into the woods a little And and it's it's not that God God the truth of God or, like, the the reality of what scripture says is true can't stand up to the veracity of that. It's just

we kinda ran ourselves out five miles and winded ourselves along the process, when we we might have just been able to hang out and call people towards simplicity. Like, call call people toward, like, true true things. I was talking to someone, actually, today, they were saying, you know, like, sometimes I struggle with, if someone were to ask me, like, why do you believe the things you believe? And she said, I just don't know. I'm not sure what my answer would be. And she said, you know, it's it's it's just I I can look out into the world, and I say, did this.

And if if god is the creator who did these things, then, I wanna know him, and, the things that he says obviously are true. And I'm like, sounds like a great answer. Right? Like, is that, like, is that not Paul's basic apologetic? Like, the king of apologetics, Paul here, who's writing theology as he goes, and he's like, yeah. No one has an excuse. God created this. We should submit to that humbly. You know? And I thought, like, that that we we feel a debt here because we don't have kinda loads and loads of things to go back on to chase kind of, some of the things that other people wanna talk about. And, like, if you're if you're on the base reality that says creator god did this, he must be a good god, I will follow him. I think, yeah. Seems it seems to nail it. I feel like you're good, and, everything else will kinda flow from there. Well and and I read here,

you know, Dan was talking about Ephesians. I read here in Ephesians. I got one here. It's Ephesians chapter three. It's verses nine through 12. Ephesians three nine through 12. And it says, to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God who created all things. His intent was that now through the church, the manifold wisdom of god should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms. When I read that last bit in the heavenly realms, I don't read, you know, right here on Earth where we can distribute it to the masses.

We're not gonna know how everything perfectly pieced together. And, you know, not everybody's gonna find comfort in that, but let's stop trying to make each other so smart that we ignore things that are so simple. Yeah. And I guess it also does like, we try to strip if we try to strip God of his mystery,

then we have we have positioned ourselves in a relationship with God that is not that is a false one. As greater than him that he has to explain himself to us. Yeah. I was reading Do a book. A David Platt book, and it's it it was funny. There was a there was a part that said, don't make God your Lord and personal savior. I was like, what? That doesn't sound right. That sounds that sounds really counterintuitive. So, you know, I was reading it, and it it basically said, you know, why are we so great that God is searching so hard for us? Is

he not gonna do these amazing, magical, wonderful things with or without us? I told a guy a long time ago, you know, I'm just afraid in youth ministry that I'm not gonna be there at the right time for the right teen when they really need me. And he said, man, you think a lot of yourself Yeah. Right. That that god's not gonna do this because if his will is gonna be done, it's with or without you, bud. Yeah. It'll it'll happen one way or the other. And that's that's one thing that's very freeing is if we can look out into a wide world and said, god's got it, and he's got people everywhere. And so, like, if you be faithful in the means that he's given you,

big or small, and, and and execute those faithfully, just trust that, like, whatever it is that you're concerned about, he's got somebody on it. So if he doesn't if he doesn't have you on it, trust that he's got somebody else on it. There isn't a reason for you to feel the weight of what is otherwise god. Sometimes stuff that drives us crazy. And frankly, we we take it out in unproductive ways as we can look at it. We feel a burden that belongs to god, we've taken it from him and put it on ourselves. That's a lack of trust in who he is. It's a lack of, allowing him to kind of live in the mystery that is him. And so, it's very freeing to say, look, I I get to be faithful in the things you've given us and I want to be, again, for our joy and for his glory.

And then I'll leave the rest and just watch as a cool bystander that knows God and can see how he interacts with the rest of the world and see how he does things that have nothing to do with me at all. Mhmm. And that's and that's a very cool thing to watch. It's just a hard thing to do because, like, even as you hear the gospel, we immediately feel responsibility. It's just our eyes get a little bit sometimes can get bigger. And so, like, here's the deal. Some people you have a giant deal. He's got thousands and thousands and thousands of people that your faithfulness, in the means then touches. For some people, it's like six. Like, it's what you know? And that's the thing. It's like you're continuing to just be faithful in in your means and praying humbly and honestly that say, god, I whatever you've got for me, I'm I'm on it, and then just watch him do what it with that, whatever it is that he does.

And and it's cool to just be take a consolation that he's he's got it handled, and we'll and we'll put people on it. He's got plenty of folk. Yeah. I was talking to a pastor one day, and he said he said, what am I gonna put on my resume? If I ever get a different job, what do I put as my accomplishments? What did I do? How did I

improve this community? How did I impact this community? How did I do these things? You know, it's almost like these things happened, for reference, to see God. Know? I I didn't I don't do anything. He does it all. I I mean, he I I think he it's weird, though. Right? Because if you look at

I mean, the the Bible is pretty clear that he calls us he we we are saved by faith Mhmm. So that no man can boast, but, like, directly following that we are saved for good works. He's got things for us to do. And and, like, there and there is a there is a responsibility as the church to otherwise continue the process of what he has otherwise started in Jesus and will complete in Jesus. And so, like and and when he calls that, and the Bible continue kinda refers to, the the people of Jesus' kingdom as as as holy and as saints. Right? That that's a that's a pretty consistent reference from Exodus three all the way up through Revelation. God thinks God does think highly of his people. His people just aren't to think more highly of themselves than of God himself. And so, like, the the it's actually kind of a weird dichotomy as we sit in humble service to a king, and he looks down and says, if you're my holy and chosen people, get on it. I've got stuff for you to do. Right? And so, like, the the stuff we do does matter, but it matters because of who we're doing it for. And so although, like, as we it matters whether we walk in the work, but the work itself is important because of who it was given to us by. Right? And so, like, that's kind of a hard thing for us to understand. Like, God God will accomplish his things, and he'll think mean, he'll get it'll happen one way or the other. But, like, I I just the the way the admonition that flows through the words in the New Testament, like,

I think shows me a God that says, I I just got stuff for you to do. I got good work for for setting captives free and taking good news to the world, and it is through my church that that some of the things that Jesus was praying in the Lord's prayer will be accomplished. And I want you to get on it in faithfulness to me, but the value of that work comes from who is who is giving it to us and who will help us succeed in it, right, through through the otherwise work of the Holy Spirit in his church. Because otherwise, the the Holy Spirit is a helper, becomes kind of an irrelevant distinction. But because of, like, the the way that the Bible describes the Holy Spirit is helping us accomplish otherwise the things that God has going on, Like, that's a that's a sweet and holy calling that we otherwise get to take part in, and I think that's cool. Like, that's very energizing to remember that, like, the work we have before us is cool work given to us by God to do, and it and it's motivating to to to then be part of seeing it done. And I think that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Or or we hold on. We're we're better get on this secular settlement. Hold on. And now for America's fastest growing game show.

Secular or Solid That's right. You have stumbled onto, America's fastest growing Internet game show, Secular versus Solomon. In case this is new to you, I will give you the rundown of exactly how the game works. I will give you a proverb,

a piece of wisdom, and you need to tell me whether it is a secular piece of wisdom or whether it is a biblical piece of wisdom, we otherwise refer to as Solomon. Mike, I know that you can see my list over my shoulder. I don't wanna see any cheating. I'm I'm facing this way, Ben. Jay here, just scoot over to the side and sit closer to Dan. Don't tell me how to live. No. You're gonna peek over here. Yes, man. You're on him. You're you're fryer, Guestman. Like a hawk. Okay. You rat me out. We've been friends for years. Okay. Yeah. So I'm gonna give you the bit of wisdom. You guys can play along at home. It's, one point for a wrong answer, negative 10 or excuse me, one point for a right answer. Negative 10 for a wrong answer. Those are the terms. Who is this guy? Sorry. The next to a YouTube video that came you remember that one time we were playing it with some kind of guy? What was he talking about? The rebuilding of Solomon's Temple or something? I don't remember. He was he was awesome. He had a he had a sweet beard.

He had a Daniel seven beard. That's what he had. Alright. So here we go. Let's fire this thing up. First bit of wisdom, secular or Solomon? Stolen water is sweet and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. Stolen water is sweet and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. Secular or Solomon, Mike? Solomon. Mic in for Solomon, Dan Hudson. I can go I can go either way here, but I'm feeling feeling a Palestinian

presence. Thieving water thieves the Palestinians. Palestinians. Good Josh Guestman. We're going secular.

Spain. Secular, the nefarious Spanish. Trevor Finner. You guys were talking about Las Vegas before? You know what I mean? Or Mhmm. I'm gonna go secular also, and I would say India. Secular India, stolen water is sweet and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. It is Solomon, Proverbs nine seventeen. Yeah. What is that? Is that anything in particular, Michael? Anytime I clear the whole room, I'm gonna make that noise. And the guy who can see the list is in the list. Touche.

Bring to me stolen bread. Man, I can smell the paganism in here. Nobody knows their proverbs. Alright. Secular or Solomon. A tranquil heart gives life to the flesh, but envy makes the bones rot. A tranquil heart gives life to the flesh, but envy makes the bones rot. Secular or Solomon? Dan Hudson. Dan's in for Solomon. Josh Guestman? Same. Solomon. Solomon. Trevor Bittinger.

I'm gonna go secular. Secular. And rotting bones. It's gotta be China. That's gonna start a war. Thanks, Bitter. When I think rotten bones and flesh, I think the Chinese. Built into the foundation of the wall. Thank you, Internet. May we mission at your country?

Mike, tranquil heart gives life to the flesh, but envy makes the bones rot. A very rare occasion, but I'm in league with Dan. Solomon. Solomon It's a wise choice. Here we go. That is sorry. One more time. A tranquil heart gives life to the flesh, but envy makes the bones rot. Solomon, Proverbs fourteen thirty. Yeah. Proverbs That is a that that was on a doily at my grandma's house. You're gonna pick that one out? She she had a very strange collection of

Kinda kinda down her doily. If your grandma didn't doily Ecclesiastes, you were robbed. They do that with their Halloween decorations. Here we go. Bones. Secular or Solomon, if you do not have patience, you cannot make beer. If you do not have patience, you cannot make beer. Secular or Solomon, Josh Guestman. Secular. Germany. Germany. Germans have been pegged as a drunken lot. Pitigur.

I'm I'm gonna go secular for the third time in a row, and I'm going Ireland then. There you go. He's in for Ireland. Pitigur says, if it don't flush the first time, keep hitting that handle. Smell easy. She killed them dry bones, man. Yeah. If that didn't smell like Ezekiel, I don't know what does, boys. Mike. Secular and Russia. Secular Russia.

They're more of a vodka. Stereotypical drunken nations. Dan, what are you gonna pick? What's one that you're not gonna stereotype as a drunken nation when there are proverbs about beer? Hey. I'm just saying. They may not be a patient lot. I don't know if the Russians are patient drinkers. I do. I'm going I'm going secular, and I'm gonna have I'm I'm gonna double up. I'm I'm a Germany too.

Can feel it. This if you do not have patience, you cannot make beer. Secular Namibia. To your shame, Namibia. I've never heard of it. What is it? What's a Namibia? What is it? Namibia? It is an African country. It takes a while to get supplies. Apparently, they have great beer.

Dang. Secular or Solomon. Here we go. Only a fool knows everything. Only a fool knows everything. Pinnaker, Secular Solomon. Well, it's Josh's turn. No. No. He, no, he fired off the beer. He was the beer guy? Yeah. Alright. I'm gonna go Solomon. Solomon. Bold. Mike. Yeah. Secular.

Country? I'm thinking. Wait. Hey. Put two thoughts together. We I got thrown off course from Namibia. I'm gonna go Cambodia. Only a fool knows everything. Damn. I'm going with secular, and it's obviously South Korea. Obviously,

South Korea. If you're if you're below the demilitarized zone, you're a fool. Josh Guessman. I'm going with Trevor. Solomon. I like hey. I like what Guessman has done. He's what he he's Claim the odds. He's he's tagged on, he's caboosed to something. Yeah. So that way, if he goes down, he takes Pinnaker with him. He says, hey. I only I'm only lost because I latched onto this cat. Yeah. It's not my fault. It's like Tandem on the crooked horse.

We go. Legit. He's got a title and everything. I I gotta jump on. Wait a minute. Do you have a business card? I do so much. When you made a good move here. Yeah. Nicely done. Only a fool knows everything. It is indeed secular Dutch. Dutch. Dutch. They're so friendly. But they yeah. What but their proverb is on the lookout for a man who thinks he's wise beyond his ears.

Guestman showed the height of humility and said, I don't know anything. I'm latching on to this cat. Plain and honest. Secular or Solomon, a man is commended according to his good sense, but one of twisted mind is despised. A man is commended according to his good sense, but one of twisted mind is despised, secular or Solomon. Mike? That's Solomon. Solomon, Dan. Yeah. I'm going Solomon. Solomon. Guessman. Solomon. Welcome aboard.

Pinnaker. Well, I didn't seem so confident over there. I think that I'll latch on my caboose to them as well. Finally. Nice work. Look at the congratulations. Congratulations, sir. We all know everything, Dutch and all. Man is commended according to his good sense, but one of twisted mind is despised. It is indeed Solomon, Proverbs twelve eight. Perfect. Proverbs 12 Nicely done, boys. H. I'll lead us to victory.

Secular need our own group of people screaming our names out and we're Yeah. We need a Wang Wang. I didn't say that wrong. Couldn't remember the term. Well, it's what you thought it was. Was about it. I figured I'd go slightly off. Those Dutch people copyright that? It's in the Dutch letters. I see. I'm ready to write the word. Weng Weng. I'm out.

It's yeah. I mean, it's a bit stolen from a fool says in his own heart that there is no god. And it would imply he knows everything, but an implication isn't a straight proverb. No. No. No. Stolen wisdom. See, Gessman knows that. Gotcha. Secular or Solomon, you don't water a camel with a spoon. You don't water a camel with a spoon. Secular or

Solomon Dan? Why do you laugh? Who's the camel less people? I'm going secular. Secular circus folk. Carnies for aprons. Boy, I'm gonna go

I'm gonna go with this country may not still be in existence. Oh, because I'm thinking in the African Continent, I'll just go South Africa because they they got rid of their camels. They tried to water them with a spoon. So Yeah. No. It's it's it's not a warning. It's a man who's learned some observations. Yeah. You don't wish do wish Guys, don't do that. Trial by error. Guestman, you don't water a camel with a spoon. Secular Egypt.

Secular Egypt. It's still a country. Yes, man. Sorry. It's not a country anymore. Oh. I've mistaken the Ottoman Empire? It's still a people, but not a country. The Ottoman Empire? It could be the Ottomans. Okay. Okay. Is that acceptable? The idea of the next country? No. I'll take it. Okay. No, that's acceptable. Secular or Solomon, you can't water a camel with a spoon, vinegar. I'm going to go secular and Assyrian, throwing things out Bull move. The wall. The Not a real country.

But Yeah. But we're we're running low on countries Mike's gonna be able to pick out. You don't water a camel with a spoon. I'm going Persia. Okay. Persian or the Japhethites? Jebusites. Japhethites. Japhethites. Hamites.

Alright. Here, you don't water a camel with the spoon. You know this if you are an Armenian. Armenia. Armenian. Of course. Man, they hold a special place in my heart, and I totally I've I've not shown any loyalty at all. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Here's the deal. The the the way to win this game is to own an old globe. I got a globe from my dad's house because he was moving. He's gonna leave it behind. And so I picked it up, and I got it home, and I looked at it, and I thought, I can't use this globe. Like, this Eastern Europe certainly doesn't look like this anymore. Yeah. This is not helpful. Even Jamaica's moved slightly. What? No. It has not. I don't know. I was just Jamaica's not shifted. Right. I don't know. The fault lines and whatnot. I'm not a science man. I just say things like, god moved it. It's fine. Definitely, tectonics is really That's right. Accelerated.

Makes it better. Let's see. Pancake. Jamaica got bigger due to, like, unforeseen events, they would try to throw a letter in there to the name so it would still fill out the whole country when you wrote it on the globe? No. They would just they would expand the kerneling. The kernel of the font would expand so that Jamaica would take up more space. See, sometimes they just give out diplomas, and I'm like, you know, I don't know if I really deserve this. I'm not gonna say no to it, but That makes that does think bring up a question, though, that I find interesting. Can you colonize a heap of ash? Like, as like as as

a volcano explodes. Right? Yeah. Like, if that creates new land masses, is it alright to hang out by one and then colonize it so you can have I assume it belongs it belongs to the to the nation that that bore it. That's in the international waters. Yeah. People are purchasing islands in the Pacific. I don't wanna spend money either. I just wanna hang out by an active volcano and claim it for me. Flag on it. Is that alright? That's the thing. You're at least gonna have to have to put money into a flag and a zion and whatnot. Yeah. And prepare for war. Yeah. I don't know much. It gets on the way. There's free land. I don't know much about Pompeii, but I don't think hanging out near an active volcano is the best choice. Yeah. Their life their life was preserved. That might cut down on the war, though. I mean, there can only be five handful of idiots standing around by an active volcano looking for landmarks. No. Oh, yeah. But think of who the guy that's willing to fight you in that scenario is a crazy fool. Yeah. And so, like, he's probably the most dangerous of the lot. He might he might have showed up with just teeth and fingernails looking for action. Yeah. If the guy if there's a guy sitting next me who's like, I want that too. Yeah. Volcano's rolling. Boot and rally. We're going in. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's a good point. That might be the wrong place to get it. I should just go take his land that he abandoned to come clean that volcano. True. Unless he left some rabid squirrels or something to defend it. Alright. Secular Solomon, This is right up that alley. The memory of the righteous is a blessing, but the name of the wicked will rot.

The memory of the righteous is a blessing, but the name of the wicked will rot. Secular or Solomon Guestman? Solomon. Solomon. Pitaker. Solomon. Mike. Solomon. Dan. Solomon. The memory of the righteous is the blessing, but the name of the wicked will rot. It is indeed Solomon, Proverbs ten seven. Reminds me of a worse Looks like you guys hitched your caboose to the right side. Leader is whoever gets on the track first. Yeah. How about that? Captain Captain Guessman. A toot toot. Let's I feel like his name is an indication of what just happened.

He proclaimed it boldly. That's the way to do it, Guessman. Quick and boldly. Here we go. Secular or Solomon? Are we we almost out. No. We got two more to go. Here we go. A rhinoceros is not burdened by the weight of his own horns. A rhinoceros is not burdened by the weight of his own horns. Secular or Solomon Pinnaker? I'm gonna go secular. And based on the last posting of your show, I would say Zimbabwe. Zimbabweida. I'm not a good I'm not a good

one liner, man. You knew that before you started. Zimbabweed. Yeah. You've done it. Go ahead, Mike. I'm gonna go secular as well, and I'm gonna say Tanzania. Dan, is this true a rhinoceros is not burdened by the weight of his own horn? It is true because I read about it in an old Aztec proverb book. And you're saying Aztecs. Aztecs. These because as the Aztecs could speak with animals, the red ostrich looked at and said, man, these are bumming me out. It's written on their walls. This is of no burden to me. Hey, Mexican rhino. Yeah. Big note. I know. Have you ever had something like, oh, this is gonna lead to poor places. Have you ever looked at any part of your body and be like, hey. This is bumming me out? Like

like, guess No. I guess That's why I started doing Taibo. That's right. That's right. That's where Taibo comes in. Yeah. Okay. Let that die. Guessman Guessman, a rhinoceros is not burdened by the weight of his own horns. That is secular. Egypt. I don't know. It's you got that on the brain. Yeah. I just keep with it. It's gotta hit one of these times. Alright. You're you're flushing the vinegar toilet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. A rhinoceros is not burned by the weight of his own horns. It is indeed secular Nigeria. Nigeria. I said Tanzania. That's pretty cool. Time to move the Atlas, boys. Yeah. We need to you need to move on to there's gotta be some reruns of where in the world is Carmen San diego or something. You guys can up your game. That was a great show. Yeah. Really was.

Alright. Here we go. Last one. Secular or Solomon, the ruin of a nation begins in the homes of its people. The ruin of a nation begins in the homes of its people. Secular or Solomon Mike. It's actually pretty darn close to a quote that I read from mother Teresa here recently. I'm gonna have to say that's Proverbs. Solomon. Solomon. Dan Hudson. I'm gonna go secular Hillary Clinton.

Solid. Solid, dense. Not a not a country, Dan. She's not a country. Nation is out there. Could could be something. They got their own signs. Dan's stubborn refusal to name a country will be an automatic deduction. Secular. And we're going France. France?

Yeah. Just yeah. The the ruin of France is started in the home of a poor migrant French baker according to Gisman. He's called a pox upon your houses. That's correct. And Pinnager. I'll go Solomon, but I'm not confident. I'm not sure how to take that. Guess I'm gonna keep an eye on them. Hey, they've I can't see them. They've sainted Mother Teresa. Does that sway you? She's

pretty awesome. Done. The ruin of a nation begins in the homes of its people. Quoth the Ghana, never more. That is secular Ghana. Dang it. Secular That's the country with the star. Yeah. Turns out mother Teresa, Saint Teresa can't be trusted. She was in that part of the world. Saint Teresa game show. Secular?

You again, you would stumble onto America's fastest growing Internet game show, Secular or Solomon. Hey, if you wanna check out past episodes of the show, of Secular versus Solomon, just go to the website, lifeinthepath.org. Search for Secular

or Solomon. Either one's probably gonna help you out, and you can watch, we played Secular versus Solomon with the Righteous Vendetta, with, Sandra Knudson. All kinds of folks been in here for secular Solomon and, all with varying degrees of success and, international front. So, feel free to go back, test your wisdom, and start picking up on those problems. You have healthy bits of wisdom. Whole broad point is to say, hey. Look. Do we know where wisdom's coming from? Right? If we if grandma put it on a doily, it don't mean the lord said it. So let's dig into our bible, know what the lord is saying is wisdom. And that's what secular Solomon is all about. Mike, I think we got time for, one. Yeah. What do got? Dear life from the path. My husband has purchased different pieces of equipment over the years. He recently bought a small tractor that he's very proud of and enjoys using around our property. He also has purchased a large trailer that he often uses to haul his equipment and other things. His problem is friends who seem to think that they can help themselves to his stuff. They actually have the audacity to say, I may borrow your tractor, trailer, etcetera, tomorrow. I find this to be rude and that they are not asking. They are telling him they will. I told him to say he doesn't loan his equipment out, but he can't seem to be able to say that. Do you have a good comeback that he could use without offending his friends? What do you have a zinger? Is that what you're asking for? Can I zing my spouse? Yeah. Like a good jab? She's asking, like she's trying to give her husband ammo to reply to his borrow friends. His friends that come over and say, hey. I'm gonna borrow your tractor tomorrow instead of can I borrow your tractor tomorrow? Hey. So can I rephrase the question? Yeah.

My husband is is gracious with his stuff, and I'd like him to stop being that way. Can you give me something harsh that I may say to him that he can pass on to these people? Yes. That's that's the advice. The root of the question? Yeah. Because because she she you know, she didn't say, hey. They return it back in poor condition. Because, like, I would say that if that's what was going on. It would help make the case that you shouldn't just give your stuff out. Right? Right. But, like, she didn't say anything about how they treat the equipment or anything. It's just they they assume that they'll be able to borrow it. And she's even saying he dislikes it. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't seem to care. She just doesn't like it. The issue is not the husband has an issue with people borrowing his stuff. It's more of an issue of people are rude about asking. Yeah. I think so. At least from her perspective. From her right. Because, I mean, to be honest with you, I do this to Ben all the time. Yeah. Hey. I I'm gonna come borrow your car, or I need to come pick this thing up. And, like, I just had this conversation with one of the girls, because they had somebody. They said someone stole something from her lunch. I'm like, well, they didn't steal it if you gave it to them. So there, that fixes that problem. Be generous. Give it to them. No one stole no one can steal anything from you if you give it to them, so you don't have a problem now. He goes, yeah. Okay. Good enough. I think the question here is is relationships. She doesn't have the relationship with his friends, and he does. Yeah. So he's not you know, he's like, well, they're yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Take it. You know? I mean, they probably had that conversation when she wasn't around,

and so that's why he's because I'm thinking if he really didn't want him to, he'd say, well, no. Although, yeah, I mean, it is it is it's it's fairly simple to phrase that as a question. Right? Like, mean, I'm talking I do that with my brother. Right. Right. I've known every day of my life. You know? But, like, even my good friends, I will say, hey, man. Is there any chance that your truck isn't busy on Saturday? I kinda need it for blah blah blah blah blah. Is it available? You know? And and if you if you can phrase anything like that where you're putting the onus on the person that owns the equipment, they appreciate that and say, yeah. That's no problem. You know? That's just simple tact. And so if their friends don't have that, then, you know, they could probably brush up a little bit, but that doesn't change the way you act. I'm just immature enough that I will give anybody anything. But if they expect it, I'll hold it back. Which is my problem. That's more about me than them. That's the thing. It's an immaturity thing. Points, Dan. Go around the

The Aztecs. Can't think of a country. But I'm saying that, you know, it's like it's a maybe it's a pride issue or something. Yeah. Where all of sudden, it's like, wait a minute. If you would've asked me, I would've given you anything you asked for. Yeah. Because you expected it? No. That's right. But it's it's it's it kinda feels like you're feeding that behavior. Like, I I I somehow I can't control what that guy said, and frankly, wanna give it to him anyway. But, like, I really feel like I shouldn't reward such a thing, so what do I do? It's like but but in either case, I I think she is if he doesn't mind, then she shouldn't mind. Yeah. I'm with that. Yeah. Anybody have a differing opinion? Something needs to be said to the boys. No. No.

No. We're solid. Here we go. Yeah. Secular's advice says, you, not your husband, appear to be the person with the problem. Nowhere in your letter did you mention that he thinks he has one. If he resents what these friends are doing, a solution might be for him to tell them to talk to you about borrowing the equipment so you can refuse for him. Yeah. That's way to take ownership of your house, boy. I go talk to my wife. She gonna say no. That's terrible. That's weird. Here's the deal. When I was a lesser man, I used to say crap like that. You know I'm saying? Like, if if somebody asked me a question that I was probably okay with, but I knew my wife would probably veto the plan, I would say, I don't think my wife's gonna be on board with that. And now that I'm, been married a little bit longer, I say, no. I don't still don't think I can do that. Yeah. There's no un un un there's no reason ever to deal with your people and then blame your wife for your decisions. Your girl, man, although, I mean, you know the deal. If she gonna say no, you better just hit it off the pass and be like Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. I can't can't make it. You know? And that's cool. That's the best way to handle it. Not saying, hey, Frank. Can I borrow your tractor? Well, you're have to talk to my wife about that. You know?

Okay. That's awkward. Alright. Hey. You've been listening live from the Path. Thanks for hanging out with us this week. We really do appreciate it. Big thanks to Trevor Pettigrew. Now, Trevor, if they want to someone said they love you. You think you think you've got sweet tones here on the radio, and they're interested to know more about you. A, where can they run into you on a Sunday morning? How could they hook up with that? And maybe if they wanted to, I don't know, email you or something? Yeah. They can join me at Federated Church in Bondurant, Iowa. Feder bondurantfederatedchurch.org, and you can find us on Facebook. We've got a Facebook page,

Federated Church in Bondurant. There you go. If they wanna get in touch with me, they can try and message me there or yeah. There you go. There you have it. Alright. Can touch me that way. Awesome. Awesome. Thanks for coming in, Trevor. Hey. Big thanks to you guys for for listening. As always, if you have any comments on the show that are good and growing, shoot me an email at [email protected]. If you have any complaints, put that on the Facebook. Generates traffic. Yeah. You must People like to see slanderous items. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, even if it's not true, I mean, I'd appreciate well, I mean, if Christian, you should not do that. But if you're if you're a they're gonna do it anyway and you're not a Christian, I don't remember You can phrase it in like, you'll never believe what happened on live from the path. Yeah. Yeah. They said fart. Yeah. They probably said words that aren't legit. You know what's weird though? It's like, I actually don't I I don't say that. I don't like it. I don't like my kids to use it. It seems overly aggressive to me. What? Fart? Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. I like I like winds and toots and things. But it seems like if the the the if the prince of darkness were gonna do something to a chair, he'd probably do it with that description. I don't know why that just was was what it felt like to me. Hey. Do you guys fart in here? We don't he doesn't tube, I guess. Anyway,

that's what goes on here, and, leave that leave that on the Facebook. Hey, guys. Commentary. Hey, Guestman. I got I got a Halloween joke for you. Ready for it. Okay. Ready? How does Moses make his coffee? He got me. He brews it. Hey. Okay. Now hold on. Act like you you know he brews it. That's the answer. Okay. Okay? Hey, Guessman. How does Moses make his coffee? He brews it? No. The Lord provides, Guessman. Oh, come on. Immature. Very good. Very good.

Did the kids use that? I tried to I tried to impress it upon them. They weren't having it. What's the joke I gave them? Hold on. I had another Jesus joke that I thought was funny. I don't remember what it had. The punch line was oh, oh, yeah. How do you oh, hold on. How do you how do you argue how do you argue with Satan? He brews it. You say, yeah way. I get it. He's like, well, yeah. It's it's not great. I mean, it's it's like b level bench type material. The rest of the jokes are terrible. So I'm I'm calling bingo tomorrow morning. I call bingo every Tuesday morning over at Brick Street Market in Bondurant, Iowa from 08:30 to 10:30. But we do a joke each week, and the one last week was, a lady came into a church, and she,

she's she was talking to the greeter, and the greeter said, where would you like to sit? She said, I wanna sit in the front And the guy goes, I don't think that you should sit in the front row. The pastor's really boring. It's gonna run on forever. You're not gonna like it. And she said, do you know who I am? And he goes, no. Who are you? And she says, I'm the pastor's mother. And he said, well, do you know who I am? And she said, well, no. And he goes, well, that's good. And then he walked away. That's a good joke.

Speaking of jokes, hey, if you ever get a chance to I I'm not gonna tell another one, but and and we're gonna leave. Promise. The show's over. Yeah. But but, like, if you ever get a chance to search up on our YouTube channel, sad little church joke, it's an excellent joke. Oh, yeah. It's it's really good. Another blast from the past. Yeah. Sad little church joke. Check it up on on the YouTube Life From The Path YouTube channel. It's good. Alright. Thanks for hanging out with us. Yeah. Yeah. Hit up lifefromthepath.org for all those past clips and performances from the show, and we will see you next week. In the meantime, though, be faithful in the means. God will handle the ends. You've been listening to Life From The Path.