Live From The Path · Season 2019, Episode 8
Kids, Eat Free
Topics covered
- Show open and close — The Johnston Proper opening banter and Fiverr grammar tangent at the top of the show; the complaint-line plug and 'be faithful in the means' sign-off at the end. ≈ 0:08
- Filial cannibalism study discussion — A read-aloud of an Inverse article on Hope Kluge's study modeling filial cannibalism in communal egg-laying species as a form of parental care, with the hosts' riffing on the science. ≈ 6:22
- Abortion parallels and the uniqueness of humanity — The hosts argue the study's fitness logic matches pro-abortion arguments point for point (ignoring the dead as data), and defend human uniqueness and moral agency against gene-deterministic utilitarianism. ≈ 15:47
- Utilitarian sacrifice: Caiaphas's bargain and Jesus's volunteer — The high priest's 'better one man die' argument is identified as the cannibalism logic, contrasted with Jesus volunteering for the same bargain; the study abstract is re-read for its punchline. ≈ 24:34
- Easter house church and the two neighbors who wandered in — An Easter-weekend house-church story: moved outside under a carport, two neighbors heard the music and joined church uninvited. ≈ 26:08
- Dear LFTP: the annual girls trip and honest friendship — Advice to a listener who resents her girls-trip friend: be honest, shorten the trip, talk to her directly, and stop nitpicking; the 'Secular' answer is judged a cop-out. ≈ 29:18
- Dear LFTP: the mother-in-law who keeps asking about weight — Advice to a listener whose mother-in-law pries about her weight: have the husband set the boundary, answer with humor, don't escalate to cutting contact; the 'Secular' answer is mocked for going nuclear. ≈ 37:15
- Dear LFTP: jealousy over a husband's Zumba compliments — Advice to a listener jealous that women compliment her husband's dancing: the feelings are normal but uninformed; Bob should introduce his wife and love on her; the 'Secular' answer is criticized for just calling her insecure. ≈ 43:54
Segments
- Show open and the 'Johnston Proper' bit 0:08–1:03
The produced opening plays ('Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper'), then the hosts open the live show from the Pathway studios and riff on the phrase 'Johnston Proper' — what the opposite would be, landing on 'improper' parts of town. A host notes he has heard the other say 'Johnston proper' for about ten years.
- Show rundown and the Fiverr editing tangent 1:03–6:21
The host lays out the show plan — a news article to read and Dear LFTP advice letters, noting Mike is not on the show tonight. This opens a tangent on his Fiverr side gig editing professional speakers' writing: credentialed public orators whose grammar and punctuation are terrible, and the mismatch between speaking skill and writing skill. He describes his 'soft editor' philosophy of preserving the writer's voice.
- Article read: study frames filial cannibalism as parental care 6:22–15:46
A host reads aloud an Inverse article, 'Cannibalism Researchers Explain the Perplexing Benefit of Eating Your Kid,' on a Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution study by Hope Kluge (University of Tennessee at Chattanooga) modeling filial cannibalism in communal egg-laying species. The hosts riff on which animals eat their young (bears, dogs, mice, gerbils), the 'thinning of the nest' hypothesis, and the study's claim that cannibalistic parents' offspring outcompete the general population — punctured by the joke about Maurice Sendak's Where the Wild Things Are ('We'll eat you up, we love you so').
- Abortion parallels and the uniqueness of humanity 15:47–24:33
The hosts pivot from the study to its moral logic: humans are outside the food chain, so the thinning-the-herd rationale does not apply to people. They argue the study's fitness numbers ignore the dead child ('that's your outlier' / 'expunged data') and match pro-abortion arguments point for point. Discussion moves to human uniqueness — sentience with inherent moral value — versus utilitarian 'genes made me do it' reductionism, with an analogy about married people feeling attraction but not being destined to act on it. Takeaway: scientific observations and their applications are not the same thing; strip out morality and you justify murder 'under the guise that it's best for everyone.'
- Caiaphas's bargain and the difference Jesus makes 24:34–26:07
Continuing the utilitarianism thread: a host notes the high priest's biblical argument — better that one man die than everyone — is the cannibalism argument, and Jesus turns the same bargain inside out by volunteering ('Kill me, save a lot of people. Sounds like a good plan'), where the eaten child and the accused had no choice. The host re-reads the study's abstract and lands the punchline: offspring abandonment and cannibalism 'function as forms of parental care for the remaining offspring' — 'for everyone except for the dead thing.'
- Easter house church: two neighbors wandered in 26:08–29:17
A host tells a weekend story from his house church: with 40-45 people and a small host home, they moved outside under a carport for Easter; two neighbors heard the music, walked over, were handed lawn chairs, and did church with them. He reflects that people who only show up on Easter are still an opportunity, and that the Lord brought people who didn't go find a church — 'I had no hand in this whatsoever.'
- Dear LFTP: should I go on the girls trip with a friend I dislike? 29:18–37:15
The advice segment opens with a listener letter: an annual girls-trip tradition with a close friend she now resents — phone on apps during outings, different drinking and restaurant tastes, budget gap, negativity about her job, finances, parents, and marriage. The hosts are blunt: she should be honest instead of letting grievances pile up ('you can be honest and hurt her feelings or you can lie and be miserable'), shorten the trip to a day trip, talk to her friend like a human being, and stop nitpicking ('of all the food out there, you share no taste?'). The 'Secular' answer is read and critiqued as diplomatic but evasive; the hosts reject the claim that she is unqualified to listen and call it a cop-out.
- Dear LFTP: the mother-in-law who keeps asking about my weight 37:15–43:53
A listener writes that her mother-in-law constantly asks how much she weighs and even asks other people; the writer calls her weight 'confidential health data.' The hosts advise: this is meddling, not identity theft — have the husband tell his mother to stop, hold the line with humor ('tell her you weigh a metric ton'), and do not cut off the relationship over an annoyance. The 'Secular' answer is read and mocked for escalating to 'the next time she mentions your weight will be the last time she sees you.' The hosts close the segment with a callback to the cannibalism article: 'how beneficial would eating you be to my other children?'
- Dear LFTP: jealous over my Zumba husband's admirers 43:54–54:02
A listener writes that her husband takes Zumba despite knee problems and women keep complimenting his dancing on cruises and at restaurants; she admits jealousy and asks if her feelings are normal. The hosts say yes — the feelings are normal but not informed: nothing can stop random compliments, Bob is not doing anything inherently wrong, and she should make sure jealousy does not become an accusation. Their advice to 'Bob': love on your wife, introduce her ('Have you met my wife, Laverne?'), take up ballroom dancing, rent a tux. A host shares a parallel from his own marriage about his wife naming jealousy over his work travel. The 'Secular' answer is read and criticized for calling the writer 'insecure' rather than helping her.
- Complaint line plug and sign-off 54:05–54:36
The hosts close Dear LFTP by inviting agreement or disagreement via the complaint line, (515) 517-0085 — 'no one complains on the complaint line,' so they assume the show is going well — then sign off with the show's tagline: 'be faithful in the means. God will handle the ends.'
Bible references
- John 11:49-50
It's better that one guy should die than everybody else.
Key questions
- Should the listener keep going on the annual girls trip with a friend she has come to resent? (dear-lftp)
- How should the listener get her mother-in-law to stop asking how much she weighs? (dear-lftp)
- Are the Zumba letter writer's jealous feelings normal? (dear-lftp)
- Is there a uniqueness in humanity that separates people from animals? (host-framed)
People
- Hope Kluge
- Maurice Sendak
- Mike
- Bob
- Laverne
- Troy
- Dana
Full transcript
Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. You are live from the path. You're listening to live from the Path. We're coming from the Pathway Studios here at Johnston Proper.
What is the opposite of Johnston Proper? There's there's there's some improper parts of Johnson. Is it improper? Is it like commons? What would be like the correct term for is it commons the correct term for the opposite?
No. No. No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Okay. Yeah. That would be the right way to say it. I've just I've heard you say Johnson proper for, like, ten years now. Yeah. I I wasn't certain if that was the deal. Oh, yeah. That's the deal. Anyway, here's what I got going on the show today. So I I I found an interesting article upon, it's called Cannibalism Researchers Explain the Perplexing Benefit of Eating Your Kid. Oh.
Like the placenta or, like No. Eating your kids. No. No. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. And and I and I saw the headline because I I get, I get my news on Google News. K? So, like, I have Google kind of articulate and send me stuff from a bunch of different so I I go to check this thing out and I'm in my lens. I thought it was a joke. I I thought it was some kind of fun fun article. I thought this probably isn't funny, but I'm a read it. But it's not intended for funniness. And
it yeah. Well, anyway, we'll we'll read it. We're gonna I'm I'm a read. I'm a share this with y'all. I suppose I understand the concept of free press, but I feel like that's just irresponsible. No. What no. It was their study. There's there's candle there's people who researched cannibalism, which is a it's I mean, it's an interesting gig to get into. Right? Of all the things like, hey, man. I'm gonna grow up and be a scientist. I'm gonna change the world. I wanna see why people eat people. Right. Yeah. Like, wanna be passionate about certain things. I'm gonna go into molecular biology or organic chemistry. Yeah. Person said, really interested in cannibalism. I wanna study not just the concept of it, like culturally
Yeah. But the scientific reasons behind it. Are these people helping? Benefits. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm I'm assuming these are in places that probably don't have refrigeration. So are they do they just nibble on them? Like, take a finger here and there? Or else? Or they just, you know, prepare the whole I don't wanna give the article away yet. Oh, okay. So we're we're going You got me thinking. No. We're gonna get Before you this man. See how things go.
Plus, we have we have advice on dear life from the path. Mike's not here tonight, so I'll I'll care of that. I'll I'll pull it up and do my very best not to comment before the story is is done. Are you gonna comment grammatically throughout the story about what they're not hearing? I can't help what people The semicolon and or colon is necessary. I can't help what people Full colon? This the Internet could lose the semicolon and the world would be better for it. That's what I'm saying. Right. Fair enough. Actually, it's weird. So I I I have a I have a side gig. Well, have a number of side gigs but, like so I've been doing work on fiverr.com editing. Mhmm. And so
it's it's it's outrageously interesting the types or the variations in grammar that people have. Like and and we're talking professional people, like people who have skills,
people who are paid to go speak in front of large audiences but who could not write their way out of a crayon box. Yeah. And and, like, just just, like, reading some of these things and, like, so there's been a few times where where if you go to fiverr.com and you have someone, you can pay $5 to do a bunch of different Right. I have I'm actually at $20. I thought, like, I fired up for big. It's big. I might as well do the work. I want you're gonna pay me the big 20. Well, buddy. And so but but, anyway, like, people will sign up for the deal and, like, they give a description of themselves and part of my requirements are, tell me what you're trying to accomplish this kind of piece of writing. And, like, probably three times it's happened to me where the the way that they they explain themselves, like, it's intimidating. Because I'm, like, I I I don't know if I'm gonna be able to help these people. Right? And and you wanna be able to give somebody some value for their $20. But which which is interesting when it comes to, like, editing work because I I don't want your work to be so bad
that I have to spend a bunch of time to do it. Right. But, like, if it's really great, then I feel like they didn't get their $20. But it's it's worth it frankly just to know it looks right. Yeah. It's worth it. Anyway, long story short, it's amazing to me, some of these folks who who are, like, credentialed and, I mean, are are changing the world with some of the stuff that they're doing have are just awful. They're just awful, right? They they like, they're like, their punctuation bad, grammar's bad, sensformation's not very good, it's like chopped up stuff everywhere. Basic punctuation is not in the right place. Sense flow, like, paragraph flow, also not good. I just it's it's flabbergasting to me.
But but I I guess when you come to realize it, like, there's these things that we have tied together that are they're just not necessarily tied together. Like, people, people can have a great skill and they like, a great public orator. But if you ask them to write, write something down, a persuasive paragraph, they're just not very they're not as good at it. They don't that's not their medium. And there's there's there's there's authors who can write you a fantastic story, but if they tried to tell the same story in front of 15 people, they would do a terrible job. Like, they're not great storytellers, but they're great writers. Anyway, it's it's an interesting interesting reality. So do you just cringe when you read the Dear Life from the Past then?
When the when sometimes when they're just so poorly done, I just yeah. That makes you sad. And here's the deal, I'm not even I'm not even fantastic at it. Like, in the world of veterans, like, there's guys that are just I mean, they are they're nitpicky. And I'm not much of a nitpicker. Like, I don't I I I I don't go around looking for trouble. Right. I only I'm a soft editor. I only edit stuff if I have to. Otherwise, I tend to just leave things be because, like, people's voices are like, I'd rather your voice come out of it. If I start changing much stuff, then it's my voice and it's I'm not doing an editor's job. Right. But, like, some of it is just
mean, outrageously bad. And some of the Dear Live From The Past, I'm like, I don't this was published. Yeah. This was published. Fair enough. Yeah. Someone should just take us take a swing at it. Could be fine. Alright. So, anyway, we'll get to that. Thanks for hanging out with us on live from the past so far. We've wasted roughly five minutes of your life and you'd be grateful for it. So so dig into this. Cannibalism researchers explain the perplexing benefit of eating your kids. Society doesn't exactly see consuming one's own children as an act of care.
When scientists first documented filial cannibal cannibalism, the killing and eating of one's own offspring, they were quick to label it a rare quirk of evolution. It was a tragic event that seemed maladaptive at best. I would agree. My first inclination of what I know of the theory of evolution would say things
should survive Right. Without being preempted by the parents. Mhmm. However, a study released Tuesday adds to a growing body of evidence growing shows the opposite. Eating kids isn't just natural, it's sometimes the considerate thing to do.
Dan, I want you to I want you to watch the the descriptions in this article for familiarity to pro abortion arguments because they're they're gonna match them almost point for point. Similar things. Of course, it's less considerate when you're the one being eaten. Great. New paragraph. But scientists explain in Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution how they use the mathematical model to prove that in some cases, sacrificing a few children so many others can live underlies the argument that filial cannibalism is a form of parental care.
Hope Kluge, PhD, an associate professor at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, tells Inverse, which is the where the article is from, that the team started this investigation by wondering why such a wide range of animals eat or abandon their young. From an evolution this is a quote. From an evolutionary perspective, this is really perplexing because if you're always eating your babies, it's hard to imagine how a trait like fluocannibalism or abandonment could persist in a population. Luke says, we began to wonder if eating or getting rid of some young could help out remaining offspring, and that's essentially what we found. So let's just stop right there. Premise premise of the article is that there is a survival benefit
for for cannibalism from an animal perspective. That makes sense, Buba? Yes. Yeah. And and so, like, I think at its core, I I I get where the argument's going. Right. If you think of if you think of provision, like, hey, there's x amount of food to go around And resources are finite. Yeah. Yeah. And so you can either increase resources or reduce demand. Right. Those are the two things you could do. Right. And so as opposed to hunting and gathering more, kill the number of people that need it. Are you a 100% certain that this is not a gag?
No. Not a gag. That is based off of the fact that, like, an Avengers movie is coming out soon that has to do with the wake of Thanos destroying half the universe because resources are finite and to save the rest of us. I did not see the word Thanos in the article, but I could I could have missed it. Just checking. Okay. Is possible this is about gerbils? Because gerbils will eat their young. Oh, yeah. But that's that's the thing that they're saying, like, other animals other animals do this. Right. So it must be good. And there's a there's a chance or there's there's studies showing that it's actually possibly beneficial to the remainder. To the human population. Yeah. It's healthier to the gerbils if you get rid of two or three because there's only so much food in the tank. Yeah. From from a natural selection standpoint, it makes plenty of sense. Resources are finite. Parents can only take care of so many. They may only have food for so many, and therefore, if they have too many, they need to get rid of them. And so instead of just senselessly murdering them, eat them for sustenance. You know what's well, here, let's let's let's keep moving on there. Bears, dogs, and mice have I mean, I don't know that you wouldn't, call that senselessly murdering.
No. What I mean from the perspective is, like, not use utilize them as a resource. Yeah. Okay. That's what I mean by that. Not not necessarily from the perspective of it's not a senseless kill but from the perspective of it's going to benefit. Like, at least you're not gonna waste it like killing a bison. Exactly. Yeah. You use every part of the animal rather than just killing it for sport. Yeah. Yeah. Except for instance, another huge. Right. Okay. I'm with you. Bears, dogs, and mice have all been documented eating their young, and the same holds true for some birds and spiders. Allele cannibalism is especially witnessed in species that participate in communal egg laying, creatures like fish, insects, reptiles, and amphibians.
In this study, Kluger and her colleagues specifically focused on these egg laying species. Communal egg laying, when multiple members of a species share a nesting region, comes with its pros and cons. The positive side, it makes it easier for animals to protect, clean, incubate, and feed eggs. The problem is it also increases the chance of disease transmission and competition for food and oxygen. Scientists have previously hypothesized that eating offspring is an adaptation that improves the overall survival of offspring because it reduces density. We're talking about fewer kids meaning a greater chance of more kids making it out alive. Right. Here, the researchers tested this hypothesis with a mathematical model. The model introduced one animal with a mutation for filial here, we're gonna call this, parent cannibalism. No reason to keep saying filial.
Into a population of generic egg laying animals. Pluga explains that parent cannibalism is thought to be a trait that is in part controlled by one or more genes. It was gene driven. K. Okay. Then they watched what happened. Previous models based on a similar design found that the gene for cannibalism spread throughout a population if it resulted in more calories for a parent. That's good news for a parent, but not exactly an argument for parental care. Now here's here's what's difficult.
Eating five children would produce more calories for the parent. Right? So it can't just be, hey, this is this is more calories for me. I it's not it's not indiscriminate. It's not it's not dogs, for example, more likely to eat their
offspring than other food available. Mhmm. That's not what it is. And so, like, the the the basic result to say, hey, it results in more calories for a pair for the parent seems like a weird way to talk about the end results. Yeah. Agreed. It's it it it's it doesn't seem like it's survival based. Yeah. That would be the that would be the argument for a caloric diet. Like, it's heavy heavy dense of calories, therefore, can survive longer. I have more energy
versus eating something else. Yeah. Okay. Now here's the kicker. What's different about this study, said that's good news for a parent, but not exactly an argument for parental care. What's different about this study is that they found parent cannibalism serve served the surviving offspring. More eggs resulted in more cannibalism, which in turn resulted in increased fitness.
The children born from the cannibalistic parents were able to outcompete and replace the generic population. So the broad argument is today is that if, if if you have if the broad state the stasis of the community is a level of performance Mhmm. Let's call it a. Yep.
If you're the if you're a cannibalistic parent, you are more likely than to produce offspring that are a plus, that perform above the stasis of the community. Did they find any reason for that for that data? Let's see. Klug says this result was a surprise. They didn't anticipate the parent parent cannibalism would improve the survival of the remaining offspring. Right. Now, I I don't know that that should be a surprise if the otherwise if the if the entire group of kids
or offspring were were going to be malnourished Uh-huh. I suppose by eliminating the Right. Exactly. Find out resources. Yeah. That's right. That's right. But it can't be just because because it's the parent eating the offspring. It's not being shared with the kids. Yeah. Unless their argument is that the the cannibalism is strengthening
the parent and therefore is creating stronger offspring genetically, there's really no draw for that. There's there's no there's no link there. Right. I'm seeing. And so that would be the only way that I could see that argument playing itself out in any way. Yeah. Because because isn't the underlying comparison assumes
like like, if if if all things were equal, it's weird to say that parental cannibalism produces offspring that are otherwise outperforming. Mhmm. And here here, Dan, here here's here's what I was getting here's one of the one of the, I think, coincidence or things that coincide with the way that people talk about abortion is, you know who they're not counting when it comes to the performance of the of the pack here?
The one that's dead. Right. Like, that's a fail. So what they say is, like, oh, you know, like, we got nine kids performing at x fitness. Right. But you killed one of them. Yeah. Exactly. That's the expunged data. That's that's performing at no fitness. That's your outlier. That's right. Alright. So anyway, they didn't anticipate the parental cannibalism would improve the survival of remaining offspring. She says, we can think of this as thinning of the nest. If you have so many offspring that not all of them will be able to survive, then removing some young is a beneficial act for the offspring that are eaten. Here's the other question though. It's like, that assumes then, by comparing it to the general population, that the general population is, as a whole, malnourished. Right. Which seems
I'm not sure that's established here. Yeah. It doesn't sound like it is at all. Yeah. Again, similar pro abortion argument is, hey, what are we gonna do with these kids? We we don't have enough resources to take right? Similar. Right. For other species that eat their young, like mammals, Plugge says it's likely they eat their babies because something is wrong with them or because they are likely to be eaten by predators. Most likely, parental cannibalism occurs across species for a range of reasons, not just because it's a service to other offspring to eat a few when eggs are clumped together, although that is what was determined here.
From a biological perspective, it's really interesting that there might be a range of factors that lead to the evolutionary origin and maintenance of this behavior, Kluge explains. Maurice Syndax, where the wild things are, famously said to their adopted child, Max, we'll eat you up. We love you so. While love may not be exactly the motive in real life wild things, they are willing to eat their young as Well, so I I the only thing that I would argue is those mammals that that they're talking about, that they're saying that they're eating because of
either they're sick or they're not gonna make it on their own or they're anything like that. They're inside the food chain still. Yeah. We have a we have we have exited the food chain as a species for the most part. We we are our own apex predators because of technology, because of intelligence and things like that. Yeah. We have a way to save ourselves. We provide our own shelter, things like that. Nothing is a predator to us as long as we stay outside of their realm and or have a weapon. And so there's really no need for that within our species any law. If that's the argument. The argument for, you know, thinning the herd because of natural selection because, oh, they would have died anyway. We have medicine. We we are outside the food chain. We do not need to exist in that realm.
Yeah. Yeah. I I agree. And so I think that, like, the core the core interesting part, obviously, is, like, when you start making distinctions, when we look at the animal world, the world around us, I I suppose one of the key questions is is there is there a uniqueness in humanity? Absolutely. And, like, it's, like, if we don't believe there's a uniqueness in humanity, then you look at some of this behavior and we're like Right. Okay. It like, you could then then you're not throwing away
sentience, right? You're not throwing away something that has inherent moral value
regardless of its faculties because it's human being. It's very utilitarian. It's, you know, whatever serves whatever serves the entire the most people, then sacrifices are okay. It's okay to sacrifice the individual
for the sake of the group. Right. But that's a very that's obviously a dangerous it's a dangerous president. Although it is the nature of almost all war Mhmm. Is that very thing. But, anyway, I was it was it was interesting. So I was reading this and, like, at its whole they they put a picture of some kind of woman
on the front of the article and so I kind of expected, like, connecting it to some sort of human behavior in some level or another but, like, it's weird because this the type of thought process here opens the door to a lot of the things that I think modern Christianity worries about when it comes to, like, the way that we think.
Right? And the the specifically, we look about how life is valued and and even the the
I'm trying to think of right way to say this. The scientification of the of the essence of of humanity. Right? And so to the extent that I can separate and say humanity is not distinct,
then then we all become just machines that are programmed to do x y and z. Right? G well, I have a genes. The genes made me do it. Mhmm. That's why rape, kill, bite, whatever it is. I do. When morality is taken out of That's right, like, there's no sense of of of malleability, it is it is we are who we are, we're dictated by our genes which like, you fail this even the even the concept of, like, germ theory. The the germ theory, like, the the things are passed through the presence of germs. But the but the wrong reaction to that is to say that nothing can be done. But, like, the the wrong look into the germ theory says, hey, I have I was exposed to the flu.
I will definitely get the flu and be throwing up. Right. Like, that's not really true. Like, your body's actually capable. Yeah. There's things you can do in reaction to the germs so the germ don't automatically win. Just like genes don't it it doesn't automatically win. There are there are ways to modify behavior. Even things that we feel like are are programmed to do. Right. Exactly. You know, genetically speaking, we may have our own prime on the earth, things like that that come with being a species of animal technically still, but we have conscience and we have we have brains and souls above that. Right. That's right. And and is it that's that's the core
isn't that the core reaction or the core societal belief is to say, I was I was I was I was made for this. My my body has this urge, so I have decided to do it. I mean, you can't tell me that there's there's there's gotta be a a 99% tag
on on married individuals who have some sort of an urge or another towards somebody else at some Oh, point in that looks nice. Yeah. Right? Something like that. That doesn't necessarily mean that it is your that you are destined
to pursue that. As a matter of fact, we have pretty strong evidence that you're not destined to pursue that. Right. Right? Like, so as much as we I think we look at some of these things and be like, oh, well, I had this urge and so I feel like I had to fulfill it. There seem to be people that are able to to not have to chase Exactly. And it it doesn't mean it's not difficult but I think the it's not built and pre programmed to say this is this is how we must be. Right. Alright. As a matter of fact, I I tell you what, if we could get to the point where that was the case, I you lose all concept or any faith that there is a that there is a living God. Like, because then you're machines. Like, you're simp you're simply a series of of of programmed machines of which evil is implicit. Right. Exactly. We we we could quantify ourselves as bags of water and electricity, but so much more than that. Yeah. Like, that's ourselves. We are we are water and we are electricity. Like, that's what we are based off of. But that that isn't our entire identity. Our identity is is much further than that. Yeah. And it is much more complicated.
My cells may still have their own prime directive that I made up of trillions of them. Yeah. But I as as as an organism have much more value, more worth, more intelligence than and then those prime direct Yeah. Yeah.
So I I think maybe one of my one of my takeaways after reading this was is is one I I be careful like this is it's legit science but like what we see what what is demonstrated in the world and studied by humanity and found to be or is observable
is it does not always have the same relevant applications. Right? So, like, as as you go through and and you're as you engage in in what people say, oh, say there was a new study that x y and z. A total cool thing to engage in is, great. What did they observe? Right. What what what were the facts? What did we find out? Great. How that gets applied needs a much broader focus. Right. Exactly. Like, you gotta be gotta be super careful that, like, if because you strip this of this of of our sense of morality, value and worth of humanity, you you've straight up started to justify, you know, I just don't think that enough gonna be resources around and frankly, I want my other kids to perform well. Right. Exactly. Let's let's kill Junior. Yeah. You're justifying murder. Without without conscience, you're justifying murder. Yeah. Well well, under the guise that you are well, it's best for everyone. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Pretty. It's I I was I guess that was the second thing that struck me is that, like, so much of this is of of these basic questions or the way to look at the world comes up in not only how we talk about choices around abortion but but even even how we understand our own behavior in light of kind of an intrinsic moral or, like, what we are going to do or not do as human beings as if we do not have any
abilities to exert some level of control over ourselves. Anyway, cannibalism. You're welcome. You you wanna read more on that, go ahead. It's inverse.com. Just do a search for
cannibalism. There's not multiple wanna read anymore about that. Yeah. No. It's enough. Right? It's just not I'm not even hungry now. I'm just I'm just wondering what I'm still wondering what the motive was behind the research. Like, that's what I'm confused about. I I I'm not asking to redelve into it. I'm just saying, like, that's just an interesting thing that someone decided that we're gonna run a mathematical simulation based off of genetics of whether or not,
filial cannibalism will be Yeah. So check this out. So here's the here's the abstract. Maybe this will this will help. Parental care is a key life history trait that increases offspring fitness. When one thinks of parental care, nurturing behaviors such as guarding, provisioning, and grooming typically come to mind. However, such conventional forms of care often co occur with offspring abandonment or fluocannibalism. Offspring abandonment and fluocannibalism are typically viewed as evolutionary conundrums that are con contradictory to parental care. Here, we hypothesize that when offspring survival is density dependent Right. Offspring abandonment and fluocannibalism can themselves function as forms of parental care for the remaining offspring. Gotcha. Okay. Use a mathematical model to test this hypothesis.
Our results suggest that the offspring abandonment and parental cannibalism can function as forms of parental care Got it. For everyone except for the dead thing. Right. Yeah. Which we are not quantifying it. Again, like, that's that's Does not have value in this thing. I I can easily do that. Like, you can you can as a matter of fact, that's when a lot of of popular data to try to convince people to think one or another comes from that. Right? If you can just discard the thing that you don't like Oh, absolutely. It's outliers. Yeah. Like, it's it's totally cool. Look look at all these people we're helping. By the way, we're we're crushing this guy. Right. Exactly. Anytime that I wanna show you data, oh, don't worry about the thing that completely goes against what I'm trying to prove you right now. Yeah. Right. I'm just I'm gonna wipe that one. That's an outlier. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we now now here's the thing. There's a difference.
It's interesting is now think of this comparison coming out of Easter. This is the very concept of which Jesus functions under except for his is out of intentional sacrifice. Right? There's a difference between saying, let's wait. Who made the argument? Who who made the biblical argument that it that it was it was the high priest. Right? It's better that one guy should die than everybody else. He's he's he's making the cannibalism argument. It's better that we should just, like, let Rome kill Jesus unless we bring all the trouble upon ourselves. Yep. Very utilitarian.
Right? Funny enough, Jesus looks at that similar bargain and he goes, yeah, you know what? Kill me, save a lot of people. Sounds like a good plan. Yeah, exactly. Let's do this. Except for he's in on it. Right. Yeah, exactly. We just choose it for him. And so so it's it's interesting because if you if you strip the if you strip the context away and just said, look, it's okay that so that one person dies for the benefit of hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands. Like, what?
Yeah. That seems like a worthy sacrifice. Would you do it? Sure. They're like, yeah. I I feel like I would do that. But then if I say, oh, by the way, we're not giving you the choice. It's, it's it's Hunger Games. Like, it's stew. Right. Like, you know what? If someone has to die, we choose stew. And then they're like, well, it's not fair to stew because stew didn't volunteer. Like, there's there's it's it's interesting the same act. It's it's a result. It's a motivation result. And you know who didn't have a choice? The kid that got eaten. Right. Right. Anyway, let there there's a lot baked into that cannabis market that I wasn't expecting Yeah. From a societal perspective. Good luck.
Okay. Good. There was one other article. Hold on. Let's see if I can find it. Have anything to do with filial cantaloupe? No. No. This was it. This that was that was it. What about filial piety? Like, I'm a Buddhism? Sounds like fun. No articles. Nope. Dang. Nope. Nope. No Buddhist articles? Nope. Gone. Yeah. Now they don't
No. Nope. Gone completely. Hey. Actually, interesting story over the weekend. Alright. Let's hear it. So we so I have a do a house church. And so of of like, Easter weekend's big. Right? Like, people show up to church, like
and it's a time when, like, when they normally don't show up to church, they might show up on Easter, right? So you prepare for this kind of thing. House church on on an average Sunday, there's literally no chance that someone's just gonna show up to a random house and go, hey, there's a church going on here. Well, there's something going on there. I we might join. Right? And so For the presence of the Lord. That doesn't change on Easter. Hey, that'd be kinda cool though. It would be cool. So So that that doesn't particularly change on Easter. Right? Because still, people were generally going to whatever they're going to do. And so we happen to have
we had church at we rotate houses and so we went to a person's house this this weekend. And it's, like, the first or second time we've been there. And their house is just a little small. Like, it's hard to fit, you know, forty forty, 45 people in a in a living room Right. In a small house. And so we said, well, hey, it's it's pretty nice outside. We're gonna go ahead and do it outside. And so we went outside, set up in there under the carport and fired up some tunes and and we're we're rolling along.
And sure enough, two neighbors walked by and and they'd heard the music and they got out of their house and they came over. And
somebody just kinda went over and talked to him for a bit and they went and got some lawn chairs and Oh, yeah. Church with us. Right? Cool. And so so here's he it's it's a cool thing because, like, it's kinda one of the one of the guiding principles is, like, I can't I the holy spirit has to solve a lot of our the the problems that come with house churches, space and what do do with kids and all this kind stuff. I'm like, I can't some of the stuff is beyond my pay grade. And so, like, people wandering into your church when you have actually no way for them to, like, advertise or, like, make it known. And I thought, awesome. That was exciting. So, anyway, I was it was kind of a fun story in light of I was thinking I was thinking about Easter and, like, a lot of people coming out and, like, that whatever was whatever other folks
people get out and and go to church on Easter, those guys didn't. Right. Like, they didn't get out and go. Right. They didn't go find a church if a church found out. It just happened to be in their neighborhood. And I thought and I thought, cool. Because there's a lot of places where where where people people went to churches
to find something that maybe they'd lost and and this was a weekend for them to reconnect and that's awesome. And, like, if it's if it starts because this is the one time a year they go, fine. Fine. What what an opportunity? Great? And so, like and you get a higher number than than normal on Easter and then you got the people who still don't go, the lord lord found a way there too. That's awesome. It's freaking great. That's really cool. Like that. That was exciting. Dig on that, man. That's why we do what we do. That's right. That's right. It's just and and it's and it's cool. Like, those kind of things are awesome because you're like, I had no hand in this whatsoever. Yeah. There was no plotter plan. Nothing we did can be credited to any of this. The lord just sent a couple folks over from next door. Okay.
Alright. Let's do some I can't didn't Hoover, did I forget? Did you have something? You didn't have anything? No. I didn't have anything. Okay. Just I had random stories from from my my life that no one wants to hear. Yeah. I understand. I thought I had a I thought I had a hoop style, but I've okay. Here we go. Dear life in the path. A close friend and I usually take a girls trip once a year, a long weekend at the same place. We drive there because it's close to where we live. She has asked me again this year about going. I don't feel like going it going for many reasons. She spends a lot of time on her phone, texting or playing on apps when we should be socializing. I like to relax and have a couple of drinks when I'm on vacation,
semicolon. He doesn't drink. Our taste in restaurants and food is completely different. Always? Never sorry. Plus she's on a tight budget and I can can't afford to spend like I can.
I usually cover the cost of our stay in a condo. She's also negative and enjoys feeling sorry for herself. Well, I prefer looking on the bright side of things. Yeah. I could see already. Look at all these bright things. Dear life from the path. I don't like my friend. Should I spend time with her? Hold on. I don't mind spending an evening with her, but that's it. She hates her job, complains about financial problems, and taking care of her parents who often feel like they should have done familial cannibalism, and her marriage isn't the best. But she does have a big heart. I would rather save my vacation days from work and stay home with my husband and animals.
I take multiple vacations year round. How many semicolons are in this thing? She does not. I almost feel obligated to go. I'm afraid I'll hurt her feelings if I tell her I don't want to do it anymore. I can't use work, money, or the place being occupied as an excuse. What should I do? Wait, Moses. Yeah. Yeah. You have two choices here. You can be honest and hurt her feelings or you can lie to her and then just be miserable the entire time. And then hurt her feelings. And then hurt her feelings. Mhmm. Yeah. Like, you shouldn't have let 11 things that you can't stand about your best friend now build up into this, oh, crap. Now I gotta go on a vacation with her. Maybe you can talk to her like a human being. I don't I don't empathize with these kind of situations. We've been hearing this kind of stuff for years. Yeah. And it kills me how people just don't understand just general human interaction.
How about how about cut the time in half? Right. Instead of going on this long trip, let's just go to this place for a day. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a day cation. That's all I wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to spend the remainder of my vacation with my husband and family. That's right. But I still wanna spend the time with you. So let's just go for a day. I'll go to a restaurant I don't like because we don't like the same places. I wouldn't think that was weird if someone told me that. Yeah. Exactly. I just feel like, oh, that's totally fair. I can appreciate that. I'm glad you still wanna go. Tradition did not hold sway, but that's fine. Yeah. This seems super oversold though. Exactly. So I usually take a girls trip once a year, a long weekend. So, like, when you think long weekend, what do think? Three days. Three days. Saturday, Sunday, Saturday is a nightmare. So this business about This is not a two week deal
in Lincoln when you're in Omaha. Like, this is not Yeah. So so here's what I'm saying. I take multiple vacations year round. I would rather save my vacation days from work and stay home with my husband and animals. You're taking one Yeah. Exactly. One? And you're like, no. I I go on multiple vacations a year, but this one day is really chaffing me. Yeah, man. Maybe I'll have to get a different flight back from Singapore if I can't take this one day here. You're ridiculous. Take take a vacation, be a human being, and love on your friend. I'm also confused at this description of a close friend who she's been doing this every year who says And now she hates me. Yeah. I just don't like her. Yeah. But and and they're not even just like the like the phone thing. I get that that could happen over time. But, like, I like to relax and have drinks. She doesn't drink. We have completely different tastes in restaurants.
She's on a tight budget and I like to spin wildly. Yeah. So apparently She's negative, I'm positive. Like, what You're not a personable person. This person is actually trying to have a friendship with you, and you're just too heinous to go, like, hey. I can't spend any amount of time with you. Like, you're a jerk. That's what I think about this person.
Yeah. You know, I would here's the deal. Harsh, but I'm sorry. I would tell the truth here and out yourself. I I mean, I I I think the one day makes sense. Or, yeah, just whatever. Take take your vacation. Friday and Saturday. You know, you gotta take it off. Right. Drive up on Friday, stay the night in a hotel, and drive home on Saturday. And then maybe talk to your friend about some of this stuff. Right. Spend your time not drinking with your friend who does not drink and then say, hey. Let's talk about your life because it doesn't sound like you're happy. But I am also happy. Yeah. Do I mean, do you guys have do you have any real well, first of all, do would you guys consider yourselves fickle about restaurants? No. I wish I was.
Dana's not. Okay. Do. Troy, you're not? I like everything. Are you? No. But I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out. When she says, our taste in restaurants and food is completely different Yeah. Like, are are there are there two are there people that are like that? They're like, so I won't Here's the one okay. So I'll be honest about one thing for me. I don't like going to Applebee's. Okay. I'd like I just I feel like and and and it's not like I don't like Applebee's. Applebee's has great burgers. They've got great sandwiches. It's kind of impossible to mess up a bacon cheeseburger. But my thought process is there are so many other restaurants. You can try so many different things that are either of better quality or something you've never tried before.
And so go there. Go local. So someone says to me, hey. Do you wanna go to an Applebee's? I'm like, no. Let me give you 12 other places I I can suggest. That's a local owner that's food you've never tried before. That's why I would in any way be like a, I don't think I wanna go there. Yeah. So I get that. I I it's That's not it, though. The implication is that, like, we're stymied. Like, I like Chinese and only Chinese. I like Mexican and only Mexican. We can't agree on anything. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Like, of all the food out there, like, you share no taste? Right. That's ridiculous. This is America. Everyone can everyone can eat some barbecue.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's that is that is our food. Yeah. So you're ridiculous. You're you're just nitpicking things and I don't think I like you as a person. Okay. So that so our advice is to say, hey. Look. You need to still go out with her. Mhmm. Cut it down if you feel like you have to. Don't take your vacation days. Yeah. Take a vacation. But we feel like you should probably since this is a close friend who you go on a girls' trip with, perhaps you should talk to her about some of these things. And then spend the other two days of your long weekend, maybe in some introspection of, I wonder where I'm at. I mean, I'm we're gonna get a letter next week from your husband who goes, my wife usually goes on a girls trip, and now she's stuck here with me. Wife recently sent in a letter to Dear Life from the Path. She didn't take as long of a vacation, and now I'm sad. Yeah. Even the dogs seem to be angry.
She's been picky about a restaurant. So what do I do? Okay. Here we go. Secular says, frankly, if you can tolerate this woman's company for one evening only, your friendship may have gone from hot to temperate. Traditions don't necessarily last forever and it may be time to make a change. Tell her that this year, you would love to spend an evening with her, but you prefer to stay quietly at home with your husband rather than take the long weekend trip as she's not gonna understand that you go on multiple more vacations I this
don't wanna go on a long trip. Oh, me and Glenn are going to Fiji next month. Yeah. Yeah. And she the woman likes to drink and have a good time, not the other one. This is terrible. Be as diplomatic as possible. That's how I like my old friends to treat me Yeah. Exactly. As a diplomat. And tell her, you know, she's carrying a lot on her shoulders. But the only person who can fix the things that stress her out or make her unhappy is her by talking with someone who is better qualified than you are to listen and advise her. And the only reason you're not qualified is because you suck as a friend. Right. I get here's the deal. There there's
I I can I can attest through seeing it in in multiple people's lives? There's certainly a value in in in getting professional help, of course, to talk through some things. But I'm telling you, a good friend who's willing to listen to you will go a long way. Yeah. You're bowing out because you just want out, not because you're not qualified. That's Right. That's horse duty. Yep. Cop out. Okay. Agreed.
Alright. Oh, for him. Dear life from the path. This is hard to write. My mother-in-law constantly asks me how much I weigh, expecting me to give her an honest answer. I have been saying that my medical information is private.
I mean, that's one way to handle it. Please hand her a HIPAA form. But she continues to ask, even going so far as to ask other people if they know my weight. She wheedles me for confidential health data every time why are you saying it that way? Right. I is she trying to steal my medical ID? I telling her it's private won't keep her from asking again. It really makes me not want to visit her anymore. Where's your husband? This hold on. This is what you think she's up to? You think like, most people would be like, oh, a meddling mother-in-law. She's like, no. She's after my medical identity. Right. Exactly. What is she gonna steal with your medical identity? Do you, by chance, have, like, a password that has to do with your weight that she's trying to get into?
I don't understand this. Okay. I don't know. There's, like, 11 okay. Multiple items. Right? Yeah. So So One was where's the Where's the husband? Yeah. Where's the husband in this, hey, ma. Stop asking my wife how much she weighs. It's getting weird. Yeah. Like, there's not you you let if you married this woman, you left your parents and became one with her. It is your job if this is that weird and uncomfortable to her to go to your mother and go, ma. Come on. Stop it. Like, just stop. Yeah. Yeah. This is weird. Yeah. K. That's Absolutely. Second off Oh, go ahead. You're being paranoid with the thought process of you think your mother-in-law is trying to steal your medical identity.
If you're willing to to entertain that level of insanity, just get a HIPAA form from your doctor and make sure that you give it to her that says, hey. I will not disclose this information to you. Only me and my doctor can go through this. You're crazy. Yeah. Damn. Obviously, the mother-in-law is a meddler, and she just wants to know, but you've still gotta have enough gumption to just say, I'm not gonna tell you. Stop asking me. Right. Yeah. That's probably none of your business. I don't know anybody.
Yeah. I mean, print out some business cards that said, no. Not this time. Right. Exactly. Be be funny about it. Yeah. Tell you you weigh a thousand pounds. Yeah. That's a straight lie. Exactly. There's no consequence to this woman. Tell her you weigh a metric ton. Tell her you wear it all in your feet. I don't know. I don't I have an adamantium skeleton. Don't worry about it. It's like Wolverine. I don't understand. I am confused why she's talking about it like this. Why does she say she wheedles me what is the word wheedles?
Me for confidential health data. Like, is it I think she thinks it means, like, she keeps asking her. I mean, who refers to their weight as confidential health data? Like, I get it. Yeah. But, like, when I say confidential health data, I mean, like, hey, man. Do you have an STD? Right. Exactly. Did you test positive for HIV? That is confidential. Not I weigh, you know, two forty five or three twenty five. Like this If you have a cast on your arm, it is not confidential medical information that your arm is broken. I see a boil on your lip. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Exactly. My eyes are green. That is confidential medical. No. You weigh three hundred and fifty pounds. That is confidential medical. I'm thinking she's sensitive. She must weigh more than she feels comfortable talking to understandable. When people ask me my weight, like, I I I give a ballpark, but that's Yeah. Do you ever, why would you ask that? Right. Like, I I have plan believe it or not. Okay. I'm a big guy. A lot of people will come up to me like, man, how much do you weigh? And I'm like, wow. I'm glad I'm your Guinness World Book of Records. Yeah. Let's talk about this. It's an inexorbitant
amount. Yes. I'm a sideshow walking around. Enjoy your life. You get to go, how much is the real number? Like, no, dude. Leave me alone. You're ridiculous. But, yeah, girl pair look at him be like, no, ma. I'm not telling you this. You're being weird. Get out of my face. Yeah. Okay. And then tell your husband I'm
sorry. I'm not happy with the husband of this. That's weird. Now would would you be willing to draw what what's the hard line on the on the ma here? Like, do you just you tolerate it, but just give her snippy responses? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the deal. This is not so consequential or it should not be so consequential that, like, you stop seeing your mom. Yeah. Like, that seems ridiculous. Yeah. It's an annoyance. I'm sure that they nobody loves their their in laws till the end of the earth for every single little things. There's always little things. It's always gonna happen. It's like, oh, my father-in-law does this one thing, whatever. You don't stop talking to the guy because of that. Yeah. Like, you go to Easter, she sniffs at you a little bit and goes, how much do you weigh now? Blah blah blah blah blah. And then you just go, oh, these deviled eggs are delicious. I bet they're putting a little bit more pounds on and walk away. Yeah. Yeah. Two more now. Right, dinner. Yeah. Exactly. I'm guessing about three ounces more than I did two minutes ago and then eat your deviled egg. Be funny about it. Yeah. And then light up a joint. What?
And they should say, why are you smoking marijuana in here? And so don't ask me for my private medical information. It has to do with my weight. I got my glaucoma. Don't worry about it. That's right. Condition. That'd be a terrible weight situation. Alright. Here we go. Secular says, neither of us knows the intent behind your mother in law's persistence. You may think you are too thin or overweight and be trying to open an unwelcome conversation on the subject. You asked me for ideas and I do have several. One, turn the tables and ask her.
Although this why do you keep asking me that? It's making me uncomfortable. Oh, I thought she was gonna ask, what do you weigh? Yeah. That's what I thought too. That's not turning the tables. No. That's changing the subject. Yeah. Yeah. How much do you weigh? Oh, yeah, Phyllis? How much do you weigh? Yeah. Okay. Two, say, my weight is my business, not yours. Are you putting that weird Anjemima inflection on that? Or No. They they they've written in such a way that it's clear that that's Okay. What they're Got it. Well, how else would you say it? I don't know. I just it just seemed weird that that was a specific voice you chose. Wait. My business
yours. Maybe we'd need to keep going. Yours. Okay. Number three? Tell the next time she mentions your weight will be the last time she sees you. Oh. Oh, wow. That is harsh. Home run there. Grab the end goal. It took it took a turn.
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right. Like, I can't imagine how many times someone would have to if they're okay. If you're sitting there at dinner and they're like, how much do you weigh? How much do you weigh? How much do you weigh? Yeah. And it's like, okay. This is the last time we're coming over here because this is obviously something ridiculous. Yeah. But if they just ask you a couple times every time you meet up, wait till Easter. It's gonna be a couple months away. She's gonna ask you a couple more questions, and then great. I'll see you at July 4. A months, whatever. You'll be fine. That might be a good time to bring up the mothers eating their children topic. Yeah. Have you thought about filial cannibalism? Yeah. Well, how beneficial would eating you be to my other children?
Like, over the rest of your children? A I'm very large caloric deficit. Yeah. How much do you weigh then? That's awful. You could feed me for three weeks. Alright. Alright. Last one. Dear Jeez. Life in the path. My husband loves to dance. Oh, yeah. And so do I. I already love this. In fact, we met dancing many years ago. I assume that means they were out dancing, not like
both dancing at the time that they met. I no. I'd rather they were dancing separately at, like Singles. At Studio sixty eight. Like and then they they caught eyes in the middle of their dance. I think it was a country music dance. She was line dancing. He was doing the mashed potato. And then they just caught eyes and they were like, we should make this happen. Alright. Here we go. He takes Zumba classes despite his knee problems. I loved Zumba but stopped because it hurt my knees. Many times women have come up to him oblivious of my presence to tell him how good he is. You Zumba alright, Bob.
This is they didn't say that. Just I threw that in for effect. This has happened on cruises and just now in a restaurant. He's getting Zumba compliments in a restaurant. That's awesome. I love good Zumba guys. Insane. He must be really They recognized him after the fact that he's done. After the restaurant. Hey, Bob. I noticed you the other day in Zumba class. I'm glad we ran into each other. There's Applebee's. I'd like to tell you about it. Oh, man. That's phenomenal.
I love that he's a good dancer, but I don't like random women telling him so. It feels like they're flirting. Yes. I am jealous because he is my husband. Are my feelings normal? Normal? Yeah. Yeah. Like, he's other women are talking to your husband. Yes. That is that is normal thought process.
Not dealing with this as an adult is abnormal. I mean, here's the deal. Either you're gonna have to tell him to dial it back or you're gonna have to live with the fact that he's Zumba's with the best. Right. Yeah. Exactly.
I don't think it has anything to do with whether or not you Zumba anymore. Like, you're not gonna get his like, your name tattooed on his cheek so they know, oh, he's taken. Like You need a t shirt that says I'm with Zumba and people will know. Yeah. Yeah. Zumba Bobby. Man, Bob. I belong to Zumba Bobby.
Although, then those ladies might think he's part of a fan club and try to order the shirt too. Oh, jeez. Let let's let's put a little bit of responsibility on Bob here. Do you think Bob is in any way trying to to to help his wife here? I I think he's enjoying the attention. I think he is too. Yeah. How old is he? How old how do you I'm guessing based off of knee problems 50. In their fifties at least. Yeah. Because they dance a lot, so the knees go up. We met a long time ago dancing. He's a great dancer, so am I. I can't dance anymore because of my knees. I'm guessing 50. Yeah. Let's go let's go late fifties. Okay. I I think I think there's some responsibility on Bob here to be loving to his wife and go, oh, thanks very much. Have you met my wife? I mean, there's no indication that he's not doing that. I I'm just saying I I'm trying to read between this and say, I I think that would be the right way for Bob to do this. And if he's not, I would say that's what he needs to do. You know, there's nothing wrong. He is not doing anything inherently wrong by getting the attention. That is not the problem. That is not his fault. But if he's not doing anything to try and try and accommodate his wife's feelings in that situation, then he's obviously a Right. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, even a simple list honor that. Oh, hey. I really appreciate that. Have you met my wife, Laverne? I'm sure she would not be commenting a tussle. You think I'm a good Zumba. Look at her. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We met dancing thirty years ago. Happy marriage. Yeah. Like, I'm sure even that small move would make your wife feel so much better, and she wouldn't feel the need to to write us about this issue. Yeah. Yeah. I would say, like, if her her description if I take it at face value and she says, don't like random women telling him so, you're gonna you're gonna have to let that go. I I agree. The the the nothing can stop random people. Like, the very nature of random means you have no control over Yeah. If there's if there's that though. Ran I mean, random. Where is he Zumba in? I don't know. I'm guessing the community center. Restaurant. And these are old these are other 50 year old women. The YMCA
I don't see a bunch of other 20 year olds walking up to the 50 year old guy. Maybe that's it though. Could be like, maybe it's little It's adorable. Yeah. Exactly. It's endearing. This old guy is Zooming with us and we're 30 years, you know, his junior. I mean, there's no reason to be jealous of that. Right. Agreed. And that's why I would say she's off a little. Maybe she needs to realize that Bob isn't showing any signs of cheating. Bob isn't doing anything inherently wrong by doing enjoying things that he wants to do. I mean, unless he's soaking it. I mean, we feel like he's That's what I'm saying. If there's any responsibility on Bob, yeah, Bob needs to make sure that he's doing the right thing by his wife. But at the same point in time, he is not inherently doing anything wrong by getting the attention and by enjoying things that he enjoy. Let's be honest. His knees are going out. It's a part it's a part time situation. Was gonna say, also, is there a possibility that there's a bit of jealousy from her because she can't do it anymore? Yeah. I mean, this gotta be that's gotta make her feel bad. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, I would almost guarantee that because, otherwise, she doesn't have any reason to say,
he takes Zumba classes despite his knee problems. I loved Zumba, but stopped because it hurts my knees. It almost sounds like she wanted him to stop. Right. Because she stopped. She's hurt because he keeps going Yeah. And she can't. Because it used to be people came up and talked to them about doing the tango. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm sure that it's just together and now he's just getting in. Yeah. I'm certain that they I think she's jealous for multiple reasons. Yeah. So real. It's it's, you know, it's not crazy. It's just he's oriented. A little bit. I mean I mean, if I if you give advice to Obaba here, I'd say, hey. Do the do the ballroom dancing. Something's a little bit less on the on the heart on the knees. Love on your wife and do something Take her out. Yeah. Rent a tux. Yeah. Oh, I bet she would go.
There's some flowers. Bob, we haven't danced like this in years. Yeah. Yeah. And then and maybe go to a restaurant where you're not gonna meet anybody. Right. Exactly. Or a senior living club. Rent the place out or something. Okay. If you got the money for Zoom. So her her core question was, are my feelings normal?
To an extent, yes. To an extent, yes. You're human. Feelings are normal. You're seeing your husband getting attention that you're not getting and it's obviously directly in front of you. Yes. Those are normal. I think half the discipline as humans is we have all kinds of feelings that are normal that we have to keep in check. Yeah. Yeah. Continually discipline ourselves. They are normalized. You are not you're not crazy. You're not wrong. You do have some work on your part, admittedly.
But it's not because you're irrational. I think I've had that conversation with my children a thousand times. Mhmm. Hey, what you're feeling is normal, but Yeah. Exactly. It's normal to feel that way, but that doesn't mean that you don't have work to do. Yeah. Right. Right. And it doesn't it doesn't mean that it's informed. Right? Like Yeah. Your feelings are often not informed. Yeah. Exactly. Emotions are in in and of themselves irrational most. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, is it yeah. Are my feelings normal? Yes, they are. Are they are they rightly informed in the context of your relationship with Bobby and whether how he's reacting in his follow-up to those types of things, probably not. Yeah. Probably not. And the honesty of the situation to go a little deeper, make certain that you're not harboring this anger towards the guy and that it actually turns into you accusing him
of doing things he's obviously not. Yeah. Yeah. That is one thing I would warn warrant for. Yeah. And if you're if you're if you're falling down this hole and and this rabbit hole of, you know, I can't do this anymore. There's obviously some jealousy the fact that you're not anymore than he is. You could be developing the thought process of jealousy towards these other women because of that. Don't let that become a slippery slope of, well, I'm gonna accuse Bob of cheating because he keeps getting attention from meows at the restaurant. And then you'll start pushing Bob away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's that's that's a good point. Is that, like, if you're feeling they were right about this knee problems in the Zumba thing, Like, you gotta tell him. Yeah. You gotta tell him. Yeah. I'm sure he asked. Hey, man. Like Do you mind if I keep doing this? Yeah. And and you were, like, oh, you didn't wanna seem like a person who would say no. Now here's the thing. If you're a person who really wants to say no and Bobby loves you, then you gotta tell him. Say no. Yeah, exactly. You gotta tell him. And if you and if you want to it it might even just help to have the conversation. Like, that it happens So I actually, I so I go out of town at least once a month and I'm gone for a couple days for work. Mhmm. And it's just nothing I can do about it but, like, it it sounds fun to my wife. Mhmm. Right? Because I, like, I get a night in a hotel, I got I'm not doing I have no responsibilities at night. Travel. Yeah. I'm out and about. I get to eat wherever I want to at nicer places and stuff. Yeah. I Zumba. Zumba where you want to. And so and so so here's the thing is that, like, I the but my wife was and I were talking about this about a month ago and she's like she's there's probably part of me that's jealous that, like, you get to to do these things and, like, I I I totally get it. Like, it's totally it makes a lot of sense. It's fun for the reason she thinks it's fun. It sucks more than she understands but, like, whatever. It's it it she's right. And and the truth is is that, like,
we're in a better place even for her just having said that. Even if I can't do anything about it. And there's not much I can change, and I don't even know that he has to give up the Zumba classes. But but if that's how she's feeling, like, you gotta just tell It's acknowledgement of the feelings. Yeah. It's empathy for having the conversation. Zumba is a dance exercise. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's what was thinking. I mean, the dancing in itself is a flirtation. I mean, the the the Yeah. You know, so that's why she's going there. Yeah. It's true. I don't mean I don't dance. At least the way I dance. It's not fair. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I agree, Dan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Dan go out on the town. We go. It's crazy. That's why we don't go out. I dance like a manatee that's trying to get sea lettuce off the floor. That's a flirtation.
Tethered manatees? Yeah. He's attracting somebody. See that sea cow over there? Yeah, buddy. Alright. Here we go.
Do you see Secular says, as long as your husband acts appropriately in accepting the compliments, you may be you may be overreacting. Instead of feeling jealousy, why are you not feeling a twinge of pride in his accomplishment?
Your feelings are normal for someone who is insecure. Bam. Oh, man. On, secular. Drop a hammer like that since it's necessary.
You're obviously insecure, so I'm gonna make you feel better by calling it out. Yeah. Your feelings are normal for a pathetic bitty, but I should go do the thigh master. That's all you got. If you accept that you can't stop people from complimenting your husband and that giving him a verbal gold star isn't necessarily flirting, you will both be better off. She is not having it. Secular is not having it. Not today. That was dear life from the path. Hey. Do you agree, disagree with advice? Give us a call or shoot us a text on the complaint line. (515) 517-0085. Here's the deal. No one complains on the complaint line. I assume the show is going well and nothing changes. That sounds great. And so if you're the person who broke their knee on the sidelines and is really thinks the show is terrible, you gotta tell us. Right. We have to know so we can improve. We cannot do anything about this. (515) 517-0085.
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