Live from the Pathway And you're listening to live from the path. We're coming to you from the Pathway Studios here at Johnson Proper. I don't know what's going on like that.

Here's what we got here's what we here's what we're going on the show tonight. I don't here's the deal. I hesitate to even wade into this. Because Christianity Today, there's, like, an outgoing editor, and he had he he decided to fire a cannon on the way out.

And he says, this is why you, this is take talk about the impeachment of Donald Trump. El Trumple, early impeachment. That's the stuff that. So so, anyway,

there was a there was a brouhaha, about it. And and here's I'll be honest with you. It fell on, like, frankly, sides that you would expect. People who Of Jesus? No, Dan. I'm suspicious of Dan.

200 evangelical leaders condemn the article? The 200 evangelical leaders signed off on the pro gay pact not five years ago. They're stupid. They're different ones. Okay then. It's it's the Jesus ones. Now so anyway, they so he they did the editorial. There was a series of rebuttals including by Franklin Graham and a number of other of other people. And then Christianity Day did, like, a follow-up editorial for for, like, the new editor guy.

And, frankly, like, having read the original, the responses, and then the the follow-up, I I found the follow-up at least much more cohesive and an attempt to, I think, to to not you have to talk into into context. Right? Like, you can't just fire you're you're not helping the fray when you just fire a shot into the dark and walk away, which is basically what the first guy did. I think the second the second attempt for Christianity Day was better

and at least attempted to to to articulate kind of what was going on. Mike came across some discussion by the the the guy from Seventh Day Slumber who was the dude who had written that response to the Hillsong guy. And it was good. The guy who was leaving the church and Oh, yeah. And he he so he provided a response. And so but and Mike felt you you said you felt the response was compelling. Yeah? Well, I I mean, it was at least a little bit more even handed. Right? Like, it seems to take a step back and go, look, what what are we really dealing with here? Right? Like, there's obviously extremes on both sides of of both our political process and a, how you feel about Trump as a dude. Right? But there is a little bit of stepping back and go, look, what are we what are we really dealing with here? Yeah. That that's probably worth talking about. Okay. So we'll we'll read his response and we'll see if we get any reactions in the room. And then we are gonna do some secular versus Solomon. Yeah. I got that fired up ready to go. El secularo salamando.

This is gonna be this is gonna be rough. What do you do? And then and so and we got kids. We got we got our kids in the room. Yeah. We made promises. Mike and I made promises. And to be honest, this is the last show of the years. There's no choice here. It had to happen now. Wait. Wait. Is is this like you're you're, writing an article saying to get rid of Trump, and now you're you're heading out? Yes. That's basically it. Basically, thrilled with kids, and by the way, it's a sinking ship. Yeah. And then we're done. Yeah. That's exactly what's going on. Yeah. Great. So they're, they've been preparing. Emma, I think, has taken in fifteen, twenty episodes of secular versus Solomon. So are you feeling ready? You feeling prepared? Wait. What are you saying? You you say I you're saying I'm I I repeat? Oh, shoot.

Oh, there's only so many proverbs. And and the answer is Ukraine. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's good. This is good to know. Okay. I will be, I will be ready, and we'll see what happens. Okay. Take the liberty of Solomon. And then, Mike, did you have any, heads up on dear life from the path? Yeah. Something about somebody adopting some cats after somebody passed away and something or other. I just gave it a quick breeze. Okay. Solid. El editorialo

El Brizzo. No. This is my crowd, Ben. Yeah. This is your fan base. Yeah. 18 and under. That's me. Hello. This is the complete audience of the show.

This is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Alright. More kids. Here we go. Here's the article. Guy from Seventh Day Slumber posts on December 19. He says, I love Christianity Today, but this is not only one-sided. It's flat out biased and wrong. This is talking about the original article, not the not the second one. Appreciate it. Let's take it, Dan, who did not read the article. 65,000,000 people voted for Donald Trump. Many of those were evangelicals. We did not vote for him because he's a top notch Christian or because we want our kids to grow up to be just like him. We voted for him because we had two realistic choices, either Donald Trump was gonna be president or Hillary Clinton was gonna be president. We picked the one whose policies we believe would affect our families in a positive way. We don't see Trump as god or as a chosen one, pastor Trump, reverend Trump, etcetera. Some of us don't even like him very much. The truth is we see a bigger picture. Approximately 150 conservative judges have been positioned into our federal courts as well as two supreme court justices.

Roe versus Wade is on the verge of being overturned, our religious freedoms are being defended. I've responded to a magazine that I respect, and it could affect my career. At the same time, it's important to speak up for those who may feel put down or ridiculed by this piece. And so he said he said he also goes by the oh oh, this okay. This is the guy. So what he did was kinda quote some of the pieces from Christianity Day and then basically provided a an interpretation or reaction. So first one, Christianity Day says, let's grant this to the president. The Democrats have had it out for him from day one, and therefore, nearly everything they do is under a cloud of partisan suspicion. He says that's true.

Two, Christianity Today says this has led many to suspect not only motives but facts in these recent impeachment hearings. And, no, mister Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the house hearings on impeachment. He agrees. That's also true. But the facts in this instance are unambiguous. The president of The United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents. His response, the problem with this statement is not only have you passed judgment on the president and found him guilty, but you did it without giving him his day in court. This hasn't been given over to the senate yet. You've written in your piece about how unfair the Democrats have been to him and how they have had it out for him since day one. You convicted him without even allowing him his day in court. You've brought him to be stoned, and by your own admission, he didn't have a chance to defend himself. See, here's the deal. This is where I think we have to be fair. And, again, I'm gonna say this is where I think the the second response from Christianity was much better, is at least recognize the reality that we're actually dealing with. The the the house is not a trial. It's just not. Mhmm. It doesn't even it doesn't even pretend to be a trial except for people who have said, hey. We voted that he should be impeached, and they're like, oh, it has the force of law. It doesn't.

And we you look stupid if you think if you're acting like it does, and you're being led astray by Democratic politicians if you think it does. It to the same point, just because it doesn't, it doesn't mean that he's exonerated either. You simply don't know. And so there's no reason to open up your mouth and go off on a tangent unless all relevant facts have been vetted. And I I know if you think that the the man is guilty as all get out, you feel like that that everything has been done. And I'll give you another example of of what I saw today. Do you guys remember that guy that's accused of

of of murdering that young girl in in Iowa, like, a year ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The guy that he has evidence for murder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In Brooklyn, Iowa. Now here's the deal. Because of the because of how bad that crime was, like, you just want the guy convicted. You're like, just convict him, get him into prison, let's see justice served. So there was a, there was something that happened in the courtroom today where they had to throw out some of the evidence. And I I didn't read it too closely, like, was not, whatever happened, it wasn't admissible in court. And people are outraged, like, they're trying to let him off. Here's the thing. If it's not admissible in court, it's because it was either illegally collected or someone, like, it shouldn't have been there or it's gotten underdressed, whatever it was, that isn't a judgment as to whether the man's guilty or not. It just means that procedurally,

whatever this bit of pieces, it cannot be considered because we have a stringent political judicial system that ensures that people get fair shakes. Even a guy where the thing that you thought was so egregious and you just want it punished, That is mob justice and we don't do that here. Alright? That's why the guy gets to go through a trial regardless of how guilty you think that he is. And so, if your reaction to that was, boy, this is outrageous. The court is really screwing up. Like, they're following the law. They're following the law, and they're trying their best to follow the law. And, like, regardless of what you think of the president, we have processes for a reason. Calm down. Okay. So maybe we don't have to go through the whole article here because, like, we haven't even touched on this, mostly because, like, I listened to a poll the other day that basically said, no one's actually paying attention to this. Right? If you were if you were on the the side that that believes that Trump is guilty, then they are tending to pay more attention to the impeachment trials. Right? Everybody else is just kinda going, whatever. Like, they check-in on it. They're not it's not they're not hanging on every word like they were for both the Nixon and the Clinton impeachment trials where, you know, everybody was paying pretty close attention to this thing. Yeah. But I think, like, it it's funny because my reaction was I watched a couple of them and and every time they'd show a new guy, he'd be like, I'm blah blah blah blah blah and I'm head of the blah blah blah. I'm like, what do we pay you to do normally?

Why aren't you doing that? Like, you know what mean? Go to work. I mean, when the government right now has a a complete characterization of being ineffective, of of being gridlocked and not getting anything done on both sides, right, we're literally donating, like, fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty people to this thing where I'm like, what are you hired to do normally? What are you supposed to be doing right now? Well, I I agree it's important. The thing that they're trying to get to the bottom of, I agree it's important that we should get to the bottom of it and that that's part of our system. Right? But, like, the pomp and the circumstance that surrounded it, it just seems like they got this drama factory all tuned up, right, for for no actual reason. We're not getting this in-depth

on health care discussions. We'll call a recess and let that sit for months. But this thing, we gotta tune it up like right now. Gotta happen right now. And I'm like, I you know, I'm I'm I'm missing it on on on the pump of it, I guess. I would agree. And if there's a warning so I I I agree with you. And my general take on the circumstances is that I think it's I think they've put on a very, very large show. I frankly, I think the I think they've significantly miscalculated that they will not have enough to convict him in the senate, and he will easily win reelection because he's they've they've done everything they can to rile up the the base that voted for him. He's a victim now. Yeah. That was that was a mistake. I think that was a mistake. Political mistake. Right? If you create a victim, then you create something that people want to back. Correct. And and so And they have inadvertently, in attempt to to to put him down, have created a victim out of him. To to the extent that you identify with Donald Trump as as the person that represents you and you feel like he is being maligned, then you feel like you're being maligned. And so, yes, that they've they've created that. I will say, on the other side of it, and this is this is my worry. This has been my consistent thing when it comes to him. Just because you put a 150 conservative judges in the courts does not mean that you get to do anything you want and that I have to support you for anything you want. Right? And so here's the deal. If he's if he's if he's done something illegal and they through a fair process, find they him, then whatever. Then the the consequences should follow. Yep. The fact that he put a 150 conservative judges in the court doesn't mean I like his moral character. It doesn't mean I have to support everything that he does. And it doesn't mean that I will not say that out loud just because I don't want people misinterpret that I really do support putting judges on the board. Correct. And I to be honest, like, I have a I I have a harder time with some of my some of my Christian friends. Like, they will go to the wall for this man and, like, I'll watch one interview with him and go, oh, man. I wish he would just be quiet and stop talking.

Just stop I mean, it's just the most bumbling, enigmatic, just ridiculous flow of conscience speak coming out of I watched him I remember this, like like it was yesterday. I watched interview with him, like, a year ago. They were talking about cybersecurity and he goes, there's a lot of bad actors on the Internet and they're just bad. And they're they're they're getting bad more bad. And we have people in place to find out how bad they are and we're gonna get to the bottom of it. It's the most bad ever. I'm like, what are you talking about? I mean, I knew that already. This is the best you had to offer? Yeah. I feel like that's the whole problem. I feel like

like during world wars and stuff, like, everybody, the whole country, it was United States and Europe versus Japan. And right now, it's half The United States versus a quarter of The United States versus a couple of Russians and the rest of The United States. And I'm like, what is going on? Well said. You nailed it. I think you're right. Run for president, please. Statement. Boy, I'd like to see the couple roosties over here by the Gorek. Yes. They're very good. Am I? We

will not change all our money for Bitcoin. Careful what you say on your phone from now on. That's right. That's right. They're watching. Lamborghini, you speak of. Okay. Alright. Whatever. We could we could drop it, guess. I don't know. We we haven't talked about the the the whole thing or whatever. And like, I just it the the amount of of slapping. I we were just talking about this when it comes to Christianity or, you know, earlier this week. Talking about how you deliver messages. Right? And like how you how you proclaim the good news and how the gospel is spread and and and it's it's it's it's the theme of the show. Right? Like the you be faithful in the means and God will handle the ends. And like, especially when it comes to political points,

Christians forget everything they ever learned in the Bible and they just start slapping people. And like, that is just not how we conduct ourselves. It just isn't. I don't maybe a free country is more than you can handle. Right? Like, we talk about this we talk about this when we talk about people's proclivity to sin and certain places you can't go. Well, maybe you, sir, can't exist and follow Jesus well in a free country because you bring out a big red slap all the time. That is not how you conduct yourself. It just isn't. Yeah. It's like, it what it all boils up to is is is is ultimately who you're beholden to, and that's where you'll make distinctions. Like, where things are faithfully following the thing that I would vote for and that follows my world view, I will say that. Where it's not, I will say that. Just be honest. Just be honest with it. And, like, ultimately, if you're faced like, the the the point I think the one of the points that that guy was making and and I I think what's missed in a lot of, like, the the the the liberalized Christian part of Christianity is they act like there's not a context

to your vote for Trump. Right? Like, whereas, like, they're they're they're improperly painting people as saying, oh, I'm totally support this man, and so that's why I voted for him. No. If you're picking from either way, whether you thought, boy, I can barely pick this, but it's better than the alternative, it registers the same as if you wore suspenders and a so suit of overalls that say with Trump's face all over it. Like, it doesn't matter. The vote is the vote. He'd be the one selling to you. Yeah. I bet he's gotten a stockpile of them in his place. These are good. They cove cover all, and they cover all of it. And all of it is good. They're all Americans. Yeah. So so so here's the thing is that, like, that isn't, just because the vote was the vote, that doesn't mean it's everybody's reality. I I respect people that that that feel like they they did that. I respect people who said, look. Just can't do it. I get it. I I like, I it's ambiguous enough for me that I understand. But, like, the the core thing from a Christian perspective, you have to be honest and you have to be we don't have to put up a facade to defend something that is not defensible, but then we should willingly defend things that are totally defensible. Right. Because otherwise, you lose all your credibility. Right? Like, if I can listen to that guy where where maybe some of his public policies, I can I can agree with? Right? But then I can watch him get on Twitter and act like a three year old. I still get to call both. Right? Like, I still get to say, yeah, I I agree with that with the law he passed. And then I get to say, why is he acting so immature? He's a grown adult. Why are we doing this? Right? Yeah. And so, like, I think you if you get to say both, then you get you get some credibility back. But, like, if you swing with a big bat either way, then it it you're a shill and everybody knows it. Right? Everybody knows you're shilling. I don't know anybody who, like, fully supports him. I mean and I'm sure there's people out there Yeah. But but they tend to act like it because the people who hate him hate him so

strongly. I mean, it's like they just spew venom. And so it's a defensive mechanism, I think. I'm assuming. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm the same way. I'm like, dude, just shut up. Just stop it. You're doing some great stuff. Just do that stuff. And and and so and I think those are the people I'm talking to. Yeah. Yeah. Is is the folks that, like, first of all, you're not gonna change people that hate him are not gonna change either way. Yep. Secondly, that that you allow them a caricature when you voice your full support behind a man that, like, honestly, you know you can't fully fully support. I mean, yeah, there's stuff you just can't defend. Yeah. So so why try? Yeah. Knock it off. Yeah. Just yes. Be human about this. I'm there. Okay.

Alright. Liberal Jews. Written by a liberal hat. Christianity yesterday. That's what he meant to say. So so here's what's interesting is I'll tell you the second response from Christianity Today, I felt like they did a better job of representing the context. They still fall on the other side, but I I felt like from my perspective, I felt like they did a much better job of at least digesting how that sits. And I think there is a con part of part of what they talk about

on the context of, hey. Like, this is harming Christian witness. Like, to be honest, they're they're right. I think they're right. But a lot of it is in the the the presence of, full support when you know you can't provide full support. Like, you gotta be we're we're just honest people. And, like, here's the thing. Boy, get ready to set the complaint line on fire. There are certain things that the Obama administration did that I thought were good. I agree. I'm I was for them, and I thought they were handled well. And, and I I I willing not that I didn't say it on the show because we don't do political stuff on the show. But, like, when it came down to it, I'd say, yeah. You know what? I'm I'm behind that. There wasn't a ton, but there was some, and I'm willing to say that. And so, like, that is ultimately how you have to to do it. Like, we are not we we we we are more our fealty is to the king and to broad truth more than it is to any other political party. And so you call balls and strikes as the best you can, but we don't just say that, well, they're all strikes because they're my man because you don't have a man. Mhmm. That's just the nature of the beast. I would much rather people hate me because of Jesus than because of political Yes. Dude Exactly. Or gal, whatever. Exactly. I mean and we're we're doing both these days. Yes. Some are. Some people are. Alright. Here we go. I'm just lovable. We're moving right along. Dan Dan Dan keeps people happy with him. I'm I'm happy. Okay. And now for America's fastest growing game show.

Secular or Solomon? And you've wandered into America's fastest growing Internet game show, Secular versus Solomon. In case you've forgotten, let me give you the the premise of the game. I'm going to give you a proverb,

a bit of wisdom. Okay? And you're going to tell me whether that is a biblical bit of wisdom or whether that is creeping in from the world trying to poison your mind. Okay? Secular or Solomon. Now here's the thing. If we find that it's a worldly bit of wisdom, if it's secular wisdom, we need to know where this nefariousness is coming from. And so I want a country of origin. I wanna know who's responsible. Emma, are you submitting rooskies across the board? I was just saying, does it have to necessarily No. No. That's true, I guess. They're not all good advice. No. That's true. It could be good advice. It may not be nefarious.

But it I mean, it really plays for secretly is, though. It plays for the crowd when it's bad advice. $5 is gonna be from Ukraine. Okay. Okay. Wait. Is that you taking the bet? Yeah. So if it's not from Ukraine Okay. Alright. Got it. Deal. Hey, man. I I didn't know there was any side action on the secular versus Solomon game. I've taken the bookies.

Okay. Here we go. Ready? Number one is gonna start with Dan. Secular or Solomon, the beginning of health is to know the disease. The beginning of health is to know the disease. Secular or Solomon. I'm gonna call that secular Christianity today. You

can't even go one round without violating the rules, Dan. I was waiting for this moment. Could could you repeat that? Because I was so excited about the opportunity. I did. Sorry. I I already had the gun loaded. I had no choice. I had no choice. The the beginning of health is to know to the know the disease, secular or Solomon? K. I'm still going secular, but I'm trying. I'm gonna this is really too difficult for me because I all I can think of are healthy places. Is a if a cruise ship is in foreign waters, does that count as a foreign country? If you can Carnival Cruise? If you can tell me who owns the foreign water, sure. Okay. It's the the the Carnival Cruises in Italy. Okay. Italian cruise ship. Yes. At the beginning of health is to know the disease. Alright. Secular or Solomon, Ella?

Ella, you gotta get up to the microphone. Secular Solomon. Oh, boy. I have no idea. Okay. Alright. Leila, do you have one? Gotta get up to the microphone.

Hey. You're making me look good. That's bad. Secular Sullivan. Secular for what country? Russia. Secular Russia. Alright. Secular or Solomon, Emma? Secular.

What country? Secular from Yemen. Yemen. The Yemenese. Love it. Okay. Yemen ice cream. Grace, secular or Solomon? I'm gonna go with secular, and I'm liking this Italian cruise ship thing that didn't have Oh, listen to this seen miracles? I mean Out goes the bait and the reel. Yes. The beginning of the hell of health is to know the disease, secular Solomon. Mike? I'm gonna go with secular, and

it's an Asian country, Taiwan. Oh, man. Careful. That's nuts gonna come off wrong. Which country has diseases? Shoot. I inadvertently am a boob.

I mean, now in your defense, every any country is gonna fall under this problem. Yo. True. Madagascar. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Here we go. The beginning of health is to know the disease. It is secular Spain. Nailed it. Spain.

That is so close to Italy. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. Russia. Hey. And Russia. You don't get you don't get any points for being cahoots with Dan. You hear me? If you're on a cruise ship, you probably do both. Who takes a cruise ship to Italy? Hey. Yeah. The cruise ship could take The Italians. Anywhere. Why would the Italians take a cruise ship to their own country?

Secular or Solomon. Here we go. Bald people can always find a comb. Bald people can always find a comb. Secular or Solomon. Ella,

play the dozens. Ella. Why am I starting instead of Dan? We go one person next to every round. Yeah. You're not charge you the game, Ella. Just answer the question. Solomon? Okay. Solomon.

Good. Good. Leila, all people can always find a comb. Potentially, Solomon. Secular. Secular from what country? Italy. Solid.

Secular Italy. Leila owns one instrument. She's gonna bang that drum. Emma, secular Solomon. Secular Egypt. Secular Egypt. Is that I mean They shaved their head. Oh oh, I see. Okay. Alright. Grace. Secular Solomon.

As much as I want it to be Solomon actually, you know what? I think I'm gonna go with Solomon. Okay. Alright. The the entire Pleasantville food stand alone. Listen. You can't will it to be in the Bible. You can't hope it's in there and then guess, and then now it's in there. The question is whether it's in there currently or not. I mean, we've read the Bible. I mean, there's some crazy stuff in there. Alright. I

mean, she has a point, Mike. Can always find a toothbrush. Wait. Hold on. The only reason I hesitated on mine was because I forgot what both of those words mean. Oh, okay. I hesitated and I said Well, I did too. Wait. We both forgot what those mean. I don't think we were paying attention really. Okay. Secular means it's not in the Bible. Solomon means that it's in Proverbs or in the Bible in general.

Okay. So do you wanna stick with your Bible answer, Ella? Hold on. Yes. I do. Okay. Because I don't know. Okay. Bald people can always find a comb. Probably Solomon. Eva Eva, what you were in was secular Egypt. Egypt. Grace was also Solomon. Solomon, like, the fruits of my loin. Way to go. I'm gonna go secular

and Mediterranean. Greece. Secular Greece, Dan. Yeah. It's it's it's secular. They're finding things they don't need. They're bald. They're finding combs. Yep. Right? So where where else would that be but, like, Bosnia? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

That's a slam dunk. Yes. Think. You're bald. Bald. You're You're bald. Yeah. Thank you. Figure. It's hey, mate. Have you guys seen the I am robot movie with Will Smith in it? No. No. There's a there's a so there's there's a he there's people arguing with these really intelligent robots. And, ultimately, the robots decide that humans are a risk to themselves, and so they're subjugating

them. And, at the end, the the robot goes basically, my logic cannot be denied. And that's what I think every time Dan gives an answer. Yes. I thank you. I thank you. Robot is really strange then. It I do. And I I think I think of that robot going, you know what? My logic cannot be denied. I mean, your logic obviously can't be denied either. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Bald people can always find a comb. It is indeed secular Thailand. Yeah. Better Honestly, was gonna say that. That's close. I was on the other side of Seriously, Dan? Definitely not Solomon, though. Hey.

Okay. Here we go. Secular or Solomon. If you to do bible study twice a week. If you are wise, you are wise for yourself. If you scoff, you alone will bear it. If you are wise, you are wise for yourself. If you scoff, you alone will bear it. Secular or Solomon, Leila? Solomon. Leila's in for Solomon, Emma. Solomon. Emma, is it any particular reason? No. You just think it smells like Solomon? Yeah. Okay. Grace.

Solomon. Hey. Grace and Solomon. Mike. Solomon. Solomon Dan. Man, that that that has a Solomon sound to it, but there's also a ring of selfishness. You know, it's like

your wisdom is all about you. Mhmm. And so does sound a little it's a Lady Gaga ish. You're wise, you're wise for yourself. Where is she from? Pittsburgh. I'm gonna be Lady Gaga ish. Wanna I'm gonna I wanna say South America. Okay. Dan chose a continent. I mean

okay. You're I spoke before my head narrowed down. We're gonna just stick with that. Alright. Alright. You know what? Mike Mike deals out the points. If he gets it right, you're gonna have to deal with him. I'm I'm accepting South America at the moment. Okay. Ella. Everybody chose, like, Solomon, but I'm she was secular.

Oh, man. She's fucking reasoning. Okay. Good. Only because everybody kept picking that one. That's the only reason. And you think okay. Okay. Wait. Now do you do you have a country? I mean, Dan chose secular. Yeah. The wrong vote came by Okay. And you jumped Are you secular still? Yeah. Okay. What country?

India. Secular India. Accepted. Also potentially a continent, but also a country. She's on better footing, Dan. Well Okay. If you are wise, you are wise for yourself. If you scoff, you alone will bear it. It is indeed Solomon, Proverbs nine twelve. Yes. That was his dark days. Yes.

Go ahead, Ella. Just you and Dan on the boat then. Yeah. This is dark days for me and Dan. We're on a ship with ghosts. Know. Dark days. I mean, you speak of the wrong boat like it's a cruise ship. It's probably just like a little canoe. It's a rickety shanty. Yeah. An Italy

canoe. Alright. Here we go. Secular or Solomon. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich rich. Secular or Solomon? Emma in the microphone.

Secular Ireland. Secular Ireland. Grace? I shall do secular Germany. Secular Germany. Irish got some pretty

like, had to take Yeah. They had to remind themselves to be diligent. They probably got that reminder from Solomon or the German been to Germany? It has, like, snow. And You've been to Germany? No.

Pick it up in the diaries, ladies. In the wrong handbook. Mike. Solomon. Solomon. Dan. Solomon 14. Chapter 14 of Proverbs Oh, 12. The old Buva. Pick in a specific chapter only to be Fourteen twelve. Dan's go with the foot in the mouth protocol that MUVA does.

Someone's gotta take that, please. Alright. Ella. Repeat what you said. Okay. You got it. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich. What's the proverb being, Ben? Slack hand, so like a lazy hand, a person a lazy worker gets gets basically, what's coming to him is impoverished or does is not very rich, but the hand of the diligent, the person who commits to his work,

obviously, gets wealth from it. Solomon? K. L is in for Solomon. I was confident. Leila. Secular Italy. What? Yep. Yep. There it is. I broke a string. Hang on. I love the pizza. Leila is now climbing onto the canoe.

Okay. Here we go. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich. It is indeed Solomon. Proverbs ten four, good buddy. Oh, almost 14. Ten four. I've always been an overachiever. Does it count if I said Solomon? You did not say Solomon.

Oh, I thought I Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. She did say Solomon. Yeah. Solomon. Does it count? I'm like, I thought I did. I'm like Congratulations, Jella. Say that, though. Yeah. Yeah. She's a a well thought out answer, and and biblical knowledge is beyond precedent. Yay. I did some. Alright. Here we go. Secular or Solomon, you can say anything to a man with a full stomach. You can say anything to a man with a full stomach, secular or Solomon Grace Foost. Secular England.

Secular England. There there's all kinds of well fed fellas in England who can be convinced to do anything. Mike. Secular Kenya. Secular Kenya. Dan. Kenya? Yeah. Steal that one, Dan. This screams Italy.

You're a pasta. But It's a trap, Dan. I'm I'm temp I'm tempted to go Solomon. Wrong direction. I'm jumping out of the canoe for just a moment. I'm gonna say Solomon. And then for Solomon. You left me.

The toilets don't work. You can go off the side. Ella, you can say anything to a man with a full stomach. Yes. I'm saying that is secular. Secular and from what country? America. Secular America. Leila Foust.

Solomon. Leila's in for Solomon, Emma. Secular Greece. Secular Greece. Yeah. A salad. Big stomach Greece. Here we go. You can say anything to a man with a full stomach. Now I think that there's there's multiple ways of how you could take that. Originally thought it was, you can harass him because he's he's bloated. He's done ate too much and cannot do anything about it. Like, you could say, I hate your mustache, Fred. And he's like, boy, I'm too full to do anything about this. Yeah. And so he just sits there because he's lazy. Or because he's so happy, because he's so full Yeah. You can ask anything and he'll give it. That's how I was taking it. Okay. I was He's

happy. He's fat and happy? Fat. So he can't do anything and he doesn't. Okay. He's he's just sitting up in the glory days. And if he could, he wouldn't care. He wouldn't care. Okay. Alright. You can say anything to a man with a full stomach. It is secular Jamaica. Jamaica? Dang. Did I get it right again? Forgot my answer. No. I believe you, Solomon. No. I think no. You said secular America. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's pretty close to Jamaica, actually. Closer than Kenya, like, I guessed. Aw.

Alright. Here we go. Secular Solomon Mike, riches do not profit in the day of wrath, but righteousness delivers from death. Boy, just get after your Solomon pipe. A poppity poppity. Solomon. Solomon with a series of embellishments. Damn. Does that speak to whether Solomon smoked pipe? Was that commonplace?

To be a pipe smoker? Yeah. Like, back in the back in the whatever the day. What what what did they do for recreational smoking? Was it was it They didn't have time to recreate. They were working. Not Solomon, was it? Sloth. Solomon went to play golf. Yeah. I mean, I feel like he was just sitting down with a music. With a full stomach. Someone

was writing it down. Okay. It's it's a sidebar. He was probably smoking. Alright. Dan, go ahead. Yeah. I'm I'm going I'm going Solomon. Solomon. Ella. Solomon. Solomon. Little bird.

Solomon. Solomon. Emma. Solomon. Proverbs 19. Boy. The booba catches on like a virus. Emma puts a foot in the train tracks. Grace. I'm gonna go with Solomon. Solomon. That's Solomon. Let's get around to Solomon. For riches do not profit in the day of wrath,

meaning you can provide all the all the earthly wealth and it means nothing next to the wrath. But righteousness delivers from death, and that is indeed Solomon. Proverbs eleven four. Hailed it. Damn it. Yes. So close. Stop guessing the chapters, Emma. I still got it right. Everybody Everybody in here got it right. Yay. We should all just congratulate each other. Nice job, everybody. Good job, Ella. Yeah. There's not enough positive reinforcement in this room. Whoo. Everybody give some everybody give the person next to you a big pat on the back. Yeah. That's a little far. Yeah.

No. Once it extends the physical affection, I You gotta do it like a pat brigade. If someone would pat me, then I would Did you say a pat brigade? Yeah. Yeah. Like, dang, you'd pat me on the shoulder. Would just pet her. Alright, man. That was a first for life from the pet. Thank you. It got all the way over. Going. These pat brigades make me uncomfortable. That's that'll be the that's the title of this next week's show episodes episode 36,

the Pat Brigade. I'm not touching Ben. No. No. He's my twin brother. I ain't touched him in twenty years. I won't be touching. Nope. Nope. Nope. Alright. Secular or Sullivan. Dan, all cassavas have the same skins, but not all taste the same. All cassavas have the same skins, but not all taste the same. Secular or Solomon? That's gotta be Question. What does cassavas mean? Anybody want a venture guess at a cassava? Fruit. Yeah. Well, it's a fancy drink. Fair enough. I hope you don't ever order a drink with skin in it.

No skin, please. No skin this time. Chicken. No. Like No skin. It's a root. It's a root. Oh, okay. Okay. A root from Kuwait. Then says Kuwait, secular Kuwait. All cassavas have the same skins, but not all taste the same. Ella? Excellent. From what country?

Ethiopia. Does that count? Yeah. It is a country. It's a country. It's acceptable. K. Leila. Secular. India. Secular India. Good. Emma.

Secular Thailand. Secular Thailand. Grace. Secular and that bunch of islands that's kinda near Australia. New Zealand. No. No. Not not not New Zealand. That place just has sheep. No no wisdom.

I'm looking for And no roots. The Balkan Island. It's the it's East Indies. That's what I wanted. Okay. I was wanting the East Indies. Yeah. You know what? I'm I'm a take them. I'm a take them. Mike. I'm I'm throwing it back on my lack of geography skills.

I'm gonna go secular and Bali. All cassavas have the same skins, but not all tastes the same, which I mean, it's just a warning. You might be getting a bag of goods,

I think. That's it? That sound right? Like how to participate in a farmer's market. Right? Just because yeah. Here's the deal. You might look down the road and you say, boy, that looks like a nice person. And maybe one of them is nice, but someone also looks like a nice person and they're very cruel and they're biters. You've now hold on. Do you find that just by the appearance of a person, you can kinda tell whether they're a nice person or not? Here's the thing. I don't know because people that I think look mean, I don't check. I say they look mean. I'm not going over there. Yeah. That's true. That's like you can read a cover of a magazine that says Christianity Today. That's probably gonna be good.

Only to find out it's liberal swirl. Yeah. Yeah. So the question is, can you judge a book by its cover? This this bit of wisdom says, if all the covers look the same, just know that it it don't mean everything's the same. Like, sometimes that part you ordered from Taiwan, it wasn't from

it's it's not the ACDelco. Yeah. Actually, so I've had this happen before. It's like like, let's say your HVAC heating and service man comes out. Right? And he's got tools on and a sweet van and he's like, yeah, don't worry. We got this handled. And then three hours later, you're helping him do it because he's got it so jumbled up. There's it's just beyond repair. And he's got out three rolls of tape and has made, I mean, 50 rounds of tape around my furnace. Uh-huh. And I thought, just because they give you that van does not necessarily mean that you are an expert HVAC man. Yeah. I'm gonna hypothetical at all. Oh, no. It really happened to me. And he was the super nicest guy, but boy, did he have this thing crooked. I mean, it was messed up bad. It was very pedestrian. Anyway,

yeah. So I'm gonna go, no. You cannot judge a book by its cover. I submit. You could paint Italian cruise ship on the side of a canoe, but once you get in, it's still the wrong canoe. So Oh, Dan. Burn me every time. Burn, Dan. Okay. All cassavas have the same skins, but not all taste the same. That is secular Kenya. Yeah. And yeah. Kenya. I feel I feel like I guessed Kenya once today, didn't I? Yeah. See, I get to know. Yeah. See, that's Yeah. I'm pretty you didn't. I feel like it's a lottery. Like, I can't say in the same country twice. And then I always miss out on being right. That's not that's what Leila's gone with the opposite. She says, I'm gonna say Italy till it shows up. Italy every time. One question. Yeah. If somebody else says something and I agree, can I Yeah? Yeah. That's allowed. Yes.

I think just she only asked that question so she could copy me. Oh, I see. Oh. Was thinking about copying Emma because she has good ideas sometimes.

Let's go. Let's go. Where there are no oxen, the manger is clean, but abundant crops come by the strength of the ox. Secular Solomon, Ella. Goes in a circle. There's something about a manger in there? Yes. Secular or Solomon?

I think secular. Secular. Okay. For what country? Australia. Secular Australia. Leila. Secular or Solomon? Solomon. Solomon. Emma. Can I ask a question first? I will give you as much information as I have. You have any the bible first translated? England. Right?

No. Oh, where? No. I mean, was written Germany. No. No. No. That's where it first published. It was printed. Thinking of Gutenberg? Like translated to English. Oh, yeah. Translated to English. Yeah. England? Yeah. Okay. Then I'm going secular England. You think there's a translation issue in here? Well, they said Manger, and I feel like that's the only place besides in the Bible I've ever heard manger. So apparently I mean, these aren't bad thoughts, Ben. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I okay. That's reasonable. I I I get where you're coming from. Oxen and farms and

Yeah. Okay. Alright. Grace. I mean, I've from what I've gathered, this is saying that oxen are bad, but also oxen are great Yes. By saying oxen will mess up your stable, but also they get your food. Yeah. Yeah. So you could, like, you could reasonably put kids in here and be the same. Where there are no kids, the house is clean,

but abundant chores come by the many of the children. I am very offended by that. I don't know why. But the war the word chores in there, so but kinda set her off. Yeah. I like to specialize in the idle hands thing or the what was it? The slack hands. That's more my speed. He also said that kids make the house dirty. Some sometimes Arlo does Okay. Not me. Okay. Noted. Could have called you an ox there, but I'm not sure. Okay.

Grace, you said Alright. We'll go with secular Israel. Israel. Mike. I'm gonna go secular and Turkey. Secular Turkish. Wait. Hold on. Is that how you is that how you pronounce Israel?

Only if you're singing that one song. How you how do you think It's right. How do you think it's pronounced? I have no idea. That's why I asked. Oh, okay. Israel. Here? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's Israel. It's Israel. Okay. Alright. We can settle this. Wrong. This is where we need an Alexa that would settle this. Dan. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Solomon, and I'm gonna go it's gotta be chapter 28 Oh. Verse four. Went back in the back. We're in the we're in the back. Gets that far. They say, I'm gonna read through the proverbs this month, and then they stop at sixteen.

He ran out of out of ideas, looked out the window, and saw some oxen and said, yes. Yes. He's like a man on a tirade. And another thing. That place would be so so much cleaner without oxen. Write that down. But they are doing work in the fields. Yeah. I'm hungry. I don't think this one's any good. I'm a write it down anyway. I'll get rid of it later. And split it with the semicolon and colon today. Alright. So where there are no oxen, the manger is clean, but abundant crops come by the strength of the ox. It is Solomon, Proverbs fourteen four. I was up by ten.

Oh, also, I don't think an Alexa would actually be helpful here because she pronounces food law unless you spell it with two o's. Okay. Noted. She might just pronounce things. I've never tried to cajole the Alexa to use my last name correctly. Wrong. The Google Home pronounces it wrong. Yeah.

Okay. Noted. We'll sort that out. Alright. Final final answer. Everybody ready? Alright. Here are the chickens. Come home, Roost. Leila, this this one's for you. Too clever is stupid. Oh. Too clever is stupid. Secular

or Solomon? Leila. Secular. Do I see a suit? Yeah. America.

Okay. Secular America. Emma, too clever and stupid. Secular America probably during the 1776. Hey. Here's

the thing. This is the wrong one to try to be clever. Ain't it? Ain't it? Alright.

Emma's given a specific time frame. Too clever is stupid. Grace. I'm gonna go with secular. This is gonna sound like a country. This sounds like an individual person located within this room. I feel like what this knowledge came from one of you. Okay. Again again, when the too clever is stupid proverb is on the table

and you two March brothers over here are gonna fire up some clever. Mike. I don't even know how to spell clever, Ben. I'm gonna go with secular and Russia. Secular Russia. Damn. I'm going secular and I'm gonna have to just I'm gonna have

I'm gonna go I'm gonna go India. Just I'm not feeling it, but India. Okay. Okay. It's like the same reason you choose India for lunch. Right. It does it's not sitting But you're gonna end up there. Okay. I'm with you. Okay. That is gonna reveal something about me, but, like, is Nepal that's a different country than India. Right? It's it's not a town in India. Right? But people say, let's go to the Nepalese restaurant.

That is a that is a country. Right? This is why we need an Alexa. I think it's a separate country. I couldn't tell you. I I know and I'm not it's a diverse geography. Let's see. Multi ethnic country with Nepali as the official language. Yeah. Yeah. Country in South Asia. Okay. Yeah. Nailed it. Good. Okay. Good. Well, then now I'll look smarter in my next conversation opposed to this one. Alright. We're gonna go. Be too clever. Alright. No problem, man. Ella, finally, too clever is stupid. Secular Solomon. Secular only because I've freed so many Instead of two heads.

Oh, sorry. Two, like t o o. Like, you are if you're trying to be too clever, you end up looking ridiculous. Oh, wait. Then solemn. Yeah. And clear reasoning. Mean It's Nephilahama country. Too clever. No. Darn it. Oh, yeah. The two Barks brothers go TWO clever over here in this room.

Egypt. Okay. Secular Egypt. Here we go. This was the final one. We'll see how it'll go. Take this, Martin Lewis. Too clever is stupid, secular Germany. Dang it. Yay. I was the only one who got it right. I said secular. Oh, I thought secular. I I said secular. No. You guys both got discounted. Screwing game. Oh, man. Here's the deal. Listen. Alexander Hamilton was alive

1760 or what? '76 or whatever it's called in 1700. Yeah. He was very blunt. I assumed this sound is very blunt to me. It must have come from him. You assume that of the millions of people that have come and gone on this earth since '17 between 1750 and say today, that this must originated with Alexander Hamilton. Did you do that? Yes. You're right. That's totally reasonable.

Alright. Clocking in like him. I mean, a marathon of a secular Solomon. I mean, I grew a second beard looking for this thing to be over. That's Mike, what what was the final tally? Final tally was it turns out that Leila was the winner with 45 points. Ella came in a close second with 32. Dan was a close third with 12, and Emma and Grace both had a negative 15. Oh, man. That's rough. That's embarrassing. Yeah. And they're older than us. I know. Can you believe how this shit's taken out? What's your They

should know what Yeah. I I mean, I'm I'm the overall winner, but I like to make other people feel about themselves. You haven't you been watching live from the past? What about all your I have. Can I Yes? We have. Mics.

I guess. Honest scorekeeping? Points. Scorekeeping is completely random. What? We could see the same for youth group too. What do you mean? No Christianity today. Yeah. Okay. You ready for some dear life from the past? Let's get some advice. Did you guys just pull off, like, a, like, a major high five? We already did that but we did it again. Okay. Right on. I'm with you. Alright, Mike. Wait. Let's let's deal with some advice and call this a day. Okay. Dear, life from the path. My husband and I are retired and financially comfortable. I have my spending money and he has his. The problem is he doesn't want me to spend any money on my granddaughter.

I pick her up from school every day, give her an afternoon snack, and on Friday, we stop and get something special. My husband thinks my daughter should pay for my gas and provide snacks for the child. I disagree. I love doing things for my granddaughter and buying things for her once in a while. When I do, he goes nuts, packs up his clothes, goes to his camp. After a few days, he will call. Holy cow. I'm sorry. What? I have lived with this behavior all our married life, fifty five years. He has fussed so many times and made me so depressed, I just wanna die. He says he loves me, but I wonder. If he loved me, he would want me to be happy. Do oh, that's a dangerous statement. Doing things with my granddaughter and getting her pretty things every now and then because it makes me happy. I don't go out and get my hair, nails done. I don't drink or smoke, and we don't go out to eat at expensive restaurants. This complaining is driving me crazy, and I can't live like this anymore. She's 10 and growing up so fast. All I want to do is enjoy her a little while I have left. Any advice? It's her his granddaughter too. Right? I mean, assuming they've been married for three to five years. Yeah. I mean And he's just upset that she's buying her the the girl's snacks? I guess it's I mean, I'm guessing, like, it's a standard grandma deal where, like, they come to her house after school and then on Friday, she picks her up from school, takes her out to get some ice cream or whatever and then gets the weekend fired up. So I'm assuming the grandma's,

like, intention she wants to pick up. Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's a forced deal. Well, then there's no reason for the mom to have wanted. Yeah. It's like, I'm gonna go drive to the movie, see it. Yeah. I mean, it seems slightly over the top. To be honest, the the grandpa seems over the top anyway. Right? Yeah. Like, super poor or Which is not how she explained it. She said, my husband and I are retired and financially comfortable. I have my spending money and he has his.

He just seems to be upset when she spends her money on the granddaughter. So it's not even his? Well It's her. Well, it's it's his, but it's like her spending. Yeah. Right. So, like, if if you were to have your mom and dad split up their extra funds after the bills are paid and say, look, each of you get $50 until we get paid again. You know? And, like, if she spends her $50 on the granddaughter and old Groucho over there is like, I can't believe you're spending money on a granddaughter. Bibbidi bibbidi. He he he seems way out of line here. Yeah. I agree. So so what's her so her question is, do you have any advice here? Because, like, I mean, they've been married for fifty five years. Obviously, he's prone to throwing a temper tantrum, leaving the house, and calling later after he's done sulking. Boy, that's way overdone. Way overdone. Oh, okay. So I think

Okay. The next time at this why are you act mean, that's right to the point. Caring for my grandma. Just caring And he says she's a disease that takes money from us. Then you say, well, that's just me. If I bought you a Happy Meal too?

That's just me. You want the old razzle dazzle. Yeah. Why don't I send a pizza to your camp, Harold? And and and also, like, he should join in on the fun. Like, so he could spend some time with granddaughter. It doesn't it doesn't really seem like

he he actually cares for their granddaughter because every time that the grandma spends time her granddaughter, then he just packs up and goes. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. But she's funny. Sometimes don't So at the end of the day though, they still have to work they have to work this out. They're married. Right? And so, like, this isn't any any reason to split up. So So we have to she has to figure out how she's gonna react in this situation and and and deal with her husband.

So can you control the actions of somebody else? Can you make the grandpa stop acting in this ridiculous way? No, you can't. You can't, but you can at least talk to him about I know, like, you might be able to change his mind, but you can't control him, really. Agreed. He, like, can't control what he does. So what if he refuses to stop acting like this? Should the grandma change the way that she interacts with the granddaughter? I mean I I like the way that she's

interacting with the granddaughter. Because you're the granddaughter in the situation. You're getting ice cream. Oh, I'm happy then. Whenever I like sugar, I'm happy. Gotta like, even if the grandpa's being silly, you kind of you're gonna have to make a compromise.

Like, trying to communicate logically with a, like, unreasonable person never works out. So you say, hey. I'll do it. We'll just do it three days a week. Two other days, we won't do it. And then Friday will still be special, but then it'll be and then you do that. And then slowly, if he gets angry, he goes or he's not angry, he says, okay. Two days less, that's fine. And then a couple months later, he's still fine with it. You say, hey. Do you realize the error of your ways? And then you add on another day. Yeah.

Okay. So back it down. Try to even if he's being unreasonable, you try to make some kind of compromise and see if that fixes the situation and then then maybe rehab the conversation once that's settled in with him. Yeah. That seems reasonable to me. I mean, who is he to be angry at? It's it's the groomer's extra spending money.

I mean, who is he to be mad at it? It does seem odd that they've already come with a preconceived, here's how we're gonna split up the money, and then he's actually the reason you split up the money is you go, look, I don't care what you do because I don't want you to care what I do. And so, like, that's that's the reason you would do something like that. But he is getting angry over stuff that's not within his bounds. It it the guy is just it seems the way she's telling the story, he's completely unreasonable. I think he's angry at the granddaughter's parents. Oh. And he doesn't know how to handle that.

Okay. So that sounds way more reasonable. And he's taken it out on her because he doesn't seem to be mad that she's getting spending money anywhere else, but she's not really spending a lot of money anywhere. She doesn't get her hair done. She doesn't smoke, she doesn't drink, whatever whatever stuff she said there. Okay. So It's the daughter issue. It's the the child. There's something there. Yeah. So from from from what Dan's getting at is is to say that, like, let's say the because it's their granddaughter, right, that the parents of the of the kid, instead of picking their child up after school every day, taking them out for something fun on Friday, let's say that they're they're wasting their money on themselves. Right? Like, they're they're buying new clothes for themselves or spending all their money on dogs and horses and and and teepees

and ridiculous things, right, instead of spending it on their child. So could you see how the dad, the grandpa could be going, look, these are all things that the parents are supposed to be doing and we're having to spend our money on it. The granddaughter deserves it, but their parents aren't doing it. So Dan is basically saying, do you feel like maybe that's why the dad is angry? The grand grandpa is angry. Oh, yeah. I see the error now. So but does that excuse him for acting like a grown temper tantrum doofus? No. It does not. No. No. No. That's And she has to and the the the wife has to figure out a way to deal with it. It doesn't well, if it is that he's mad at the parents, then it doesn't seem like he said anything about it. Like, did he talk to them and say, hey, you should be spending this money yourself. Yes. I mean, it still seems fine that the grandma's spending it, like, my grandma buys me stuff all the time. Yeah. Or she's like, hey, here's a jar of candy on my counter. Want some? Like a like a weird Hansel and griddle. Like, yeah. And so, like, that's what grandmas do.

But I feel like if he thinks that the parents should be doing it as well, maybe he should say that. So all could be solved with some straightforward conversation type stuff. I feel like he's not he's not expressing his We Now, see, we have a feelings corner at our house where I like to send the cat when he's acting up. Mhmm. And I say, you go to your feelings corner until you get it. Send the cat. You always send it to their cat. He's a terrible cat. Even when he's happy, you always send him. He's a terrible cat. Alright. Let's see what let's see what Segular says. Segular says, after fifty five years of tolerating your husband's temper tantrums and controlling behavior, I seriously doubt you're going to get him to change. You can, however, change the way you react to it. If you have money of your own, he does not have the right to tell you how to spend it. Let him go camping while he's gone, enjoy your time with your granddaughter. If he quotes goes nuts, which I assume mean becomes verbally abusive, leave the room. I didn't really think that. Ask yourself whether you are better off with this man or without him. And if you truly cannot live like this anymore, talk to an attorney and explore your options. Wow. Secular basically says, look, if he's not gonna stop this, you need to divorce him.

Bad choice. That seems I agree. Doesn't that seem the same amount of overreacting he's doing? You're just joining the pool of overreaction? But this is this is a difficult question. This is basically a one on one question because on one hand, if you divorce him, then you can then you can So if you have one disagreement in your life with your spouse, I don't like the way that you are taking our granddaughter out. Is that a good reason for a couple to get a divorce? No.

But I feel like he's overreacting. Agreed. Really badly overreacting. Agreed. But don't you feel like divorce is a bit of an overreaction? So you're doing the same thing. Like the she she's basically suggesting that the wife do the same thing and completely overreact.

It's just one part of your marriage. And marriage is made up of every minute of every day. This is just one situation of which, you know, you're willing to put the axe to the tree and go, I'm done. But hasn't this happened their hasn't this happened their whole marriage? Well, I think they're making an assumption there. Yeah. But probably. Yeah. So but, Leyla, I think that that begs the same question though. Is that, like, you're married to someone and you're with them all the time and they do a thousand things. If there's one thing or even five things to do, you're like, oh, man. This is just I don't love this.

Still, in the grand scheme of things, if the marriage is otherwise okay, is it just something you gotta figure out how to deal with? Like, our other, our other advice notwithstanding, right, like, you still need to talk to this person and but, like, is there let's say that this persisted and he was not making able to make any progress. Is that a good reason to say, look, our our marriage is off even if?

Emma says no. Yeah. I think you gotta figure it out. I mean, there's it's just one thing. Like, Leila's like, we both have $10. She buys a candy bar. And I'm like, really, Leila? Candy bar? That's no reason to say, hey, you're not my sister. That's right.

I hate the candy bars that you buy. We're done. Right. You got a payday. You could've had us like this. It just makes me so mad every time you buy candy bars. I'm going on a camping trip so I don't have to see your camping candy bars. In in that perspective, it does sound ridiculous. I got her Christmas present with that $10. Oh, well, that was very nice of you. Okay. Let's do one more. Ready? Was it a candy bar? Yeah. Did you buy her a candy bar? No. Okay, dude. Ready? Dear life from the past. Man, my husband and I have a friend of thirty five years. We'll call him Hank. Hey, Hank. Hank. Hank had an accident three months ago. Cool. His vehicle was totaled, and he has been depending on us to take him grocery shopping into various appointments.

When we take him, he often adds additional stops without asking ahead of time, which turns a quick trip into a marathon shopping excursion. We still work part time while Hank is retired. He is procrastinating about buying another vehicle, citing various reasons why he can't find the right one, and we are becoming exhausted from driving him around. We have mentioned several times that he needs to get a vehicle. His response is, it's not easy. We feel sad that our friendship has taken this turn. We have tried to be as helpful as possible, but our patience is wearing thin. What do you suggest? Can't he just call an Uber? Yeah. That's exactly what I was thinking. I know. Call an Uber, Hank. Yeah. You ever think of that? Wait. But still What do you know about an Uber? I know that they come pick you up. My dad used to drive them

a lot. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, twice. I went out on the town twice. You did it more than twice. No. I know it's just twice. Yeah. So so answering from the other side, the question is is if you decide to help people, does that mean you're on the hook for everything that somebody wants? No. No. No. Right? So, like, draw a line. Say, look. Here's what I got. I got half an hour. I can get you to this place and this place. If you got anything else, you're gonna have to find another means to do it. And he says, oh, but we're already out. I know. But I got other stuff to do. Here's what I can do. Yeah. But doesn't this speak to the to what you say a lot is is you can only be disappointed when you have preconceived expectations.

Right? Like so, like, when you went to pick up the guy, you thought, oh, just going to the store and back. And then he decides you're gonna go five places. If you'd have thought on your way there, oh, he's probably gonna wanna go, like, five places, then you wouldn't be upset. You just take him to the five places. No. I agree. So there's two ways to stop that though. Either you throw all your expectations out the window or you set reasonable expectations. Right? And then you can't be disappointed because you were clear on what you expected. Or, like, when you go to it the first time and he says, I got two other places to stop. Think to yourself, well, I suppose I didn't ask ahead of time. So, I mean, I guess. Yeah. Well, can't you just say, well, so I'll drive you around for an hour. Get what you in an hour. Over an hour then I'm just Yeah. Like, couldn't you just, like, set a time limit? Yeah. So even if he's in the store getting avocados, the hour rings up, you just drive out. That's it, Hank. I'm done. Since he's retired,

you can get back into jobs, so you can just get another job. Oh, you fill up your own schedule so you don't have time to take Hank around. Yeah. He's retired. He can get a How did you say yeah? I don't know. Come on, Hank. I don't know how old he is, but still, you can get another job if you're if you don't have a car anymore. Get another job. So Hank didn't cite not having enough money as the reason to buy a car. He's just not buying a car. It's convenient. Yeah. Yeah. How about you sign up to be an Uber driver and get paid for it? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, he doesn't have a car. He gets a free car. I mean, the friend. He's he's calling his friend all the time and say, yeah. I'll pay you. Yeah. The friend should have a car. Driver and make Hank get ahold of him through the app. Yeah. And he's his only customer. That's a great idea. Or you can be like, hey. I know we're just planning to go to the Walmart, but if you really wanna go to the Sugar Shack, we can go to the Sugar Shack as long as you get me a shake. Oh, bribery. Get me Yeah. I'll go to the Shutter Emma says, so I'll do it, but you gotta grease the wheels. You gotta make it worth my while. I don't do anything for ice cream. We can go to Target, but, you know, it's gonna be 5 extra bucks.

Yeah. Just the driver. Act like it's an Uber without having to be an Uber. Here's the thing. It's you're it's gonna start to feel petty when you pick up this disabled man and you take him to the the grocery He got disabled. Yeah. He just said he's retired. He wasn't hurt in the accident. Just his car was broken. Just his car. Oh. He just had to buy a car. Didn't he say he's 35? Like I said, he's 35. No. Friend of thirty five years. Yeah. Friend of thirty five years. If Hank retired at 35 I know. That was that's the whole time. It sounds like That that would sound ridiculous. He's super young. Yeah. You could either say he's been my friend for thirty five years or he's a friend of thirty five years.

And a weird This seems unnecessarily pinpointed on how it was written. I don't know whose kid this is picking apart how it was written. I believe it is your eldest daughter. Yeah. Semi colon. Unnecessary. Yeah. So I so I think there's lots of good options here. Like,

none of them are that just because you offer to do something kind, it means that you have like, your your nose is completely open and it has to stay that way. Right? Like, it's okay to invite someone for dinner and not let them stay the night. It's go it's okay to give someone a ride somewhere and not be the taxi for the whole day. It's fine. Well, and I here's the thing is I struggle when people say, this is my good friend, Hank. I I have a list of people that are my good friends that I would say, hey, this is getting out of hand, Steve. You know I'm saying? I'm not gonna tuck you around everywhere. Pick a pick a joint. We're only going one place. Where do you wanna go? Yeah. Right? If he was a good friend, that's the stuff you say. But, like, we seem like we're politically dancing around our friendship, which means I don't think it was that good to begin with. Yeah. That's probably true. Yeah. If it's close to a friend, you should just say the thing. Or there may also have, like, family he has family members, doesn't he? It it does not say whether Hank has family or not. Cousin?

It does not say whether he has a cousin, at least. I need more information. Agree. Agree. Give me the full file. There's many options for Hank, and almost all of it is solved by being straightforward. Like, look, man. I can't I I I just be honest with him. Like, I got about forty five minutes today. Hank, where can we go, buddy? What do you wanna do? Yeah. And he says, hey. It's gonna I got an hour and a half worth of stuff. Say, well, if you can get forty five minutes of it done, then I'm in. If not, you may have to find someone else because I I don't have the time today. And, like, any any legitimate friend will, like, like, will not want to have inconvenience you. Like, as long as you said, hey. I got forty five minutes. Like, oh, man. Great. Thank you for thank you for sharing your forty five minutes. Right? And you driving here's the thing, is that, like, people get jaded on doing good things for people because they didn't set proper boundaries, and that's a double loss. Because then you didn't do the good thing, which is good for you and for the people you're helping. So do everybody a favor and set a boundary. And and here's the deal. He he's been a friend of thirty five years. Maybe he thinks you're enjoying your time with him. Yes. Yeah. Maybe he's mistaken you as a friend. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I thought we liked to be together. Well, like, if he's retired,

doesn't really matter what is like, it doesn't have to be, like, a great car. Not to be driving that much. Leila's stuck on. He just needs to go buy a vehicle. He just needs to buy something. I mean yeah. He does. Put some scratch in my you go to the Facebook market, there's gotta be something there. Golf cart? He can also use a bike. Go kart. Okay. Yeah. Go kart. So far, our options bike. We've come up with are get an Uber, go to the Facebook marketplace, or buy get a cousin. Yeah. Or use a bike. Amazon, they'll bring it to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's a lot of good options here. Go shopping. Just set some just set some boundaries. Yep. Set some boundaries. Okay. Segular says, I suggest you stop making yourself so available when Hank asks for transportation. If you do, it may stimulate him to look more diligently for a new vehicle or explore other rideshare options. I'm sorry, Hank. I'm busy buying candy corn today. I cannot take you too long. You know it's my Tuesday candy corn run? Don't you call me on Tuesdays, Hank? I mean, here's the deal. It's like that that advice isn't so terrible. Like, my boss is pretty classic for saying this. It's like, change won't happen until you make somebody feel it. And so sometimes you gotta make somebody feel it. And and it's not you being vindictive, it's you helping them change. If they're not willing to do it on their own, then you gotta let some of the weight fall on them and they will make a move. I also feel like he's just being lazy.

He could be. He can get get out of bed and go get a job, but instead he gotta call up his friend and be like, take me to this place. Agree. I I mean, I don't actually understand the I I I enjoy that level of freedom and I don't understand the mindset that doesn't. So it's hard for me to speak to understand Hank very well because like, I ultimately, like, I would always tend to drive myself and be able to go where I wanna go. And, like, that would drive me personally nuts. But there's some people that don't feel that way. There's people that love to take Ubers

because there's other people in them. Right? They'll what is it like? The Uber black or something where you get picked up in, a van with, with, like, six other people? Yeah. And, like, they love it because you get to spend this time meeting six other people on the way to the your various places, and that whole situation makes me wanna vomit. That sounds terrible. Like, it just sounds horrible. I don't I would never wanna do that. But some people really enjoy, like, meeting random people like that. And maybe Hank's that way. Maybe he likes the company and he likes going out with people and and and that's his deal. And so not to rob him of that, but also, like, if you're gonna be in a community like that and want that type of community, you have to care about the other members in the in the community, which means you can't inconvenience them and drag them down to nothing. Like, that seems unfair. Maybe he's just lonely. Maybe Hank is lonely. I think he is. Yeah. And and it's alright. It's alright to help him. Just put some limits on him. Alright. You've listening to Live for the Path. A pen pal? Yeah. A pen pal. You know, there's not enough old school pen pal action going on. Email, buddy. I'm a pen pal with Ella. Kind of. Fantastic. Hey. You've listening to Live for the Path. We left that down. Thanks for thanks for hanging out with us. Really do appreciate it. You guys are always gracious with us and listen to the show, and we we thank you as always for your support. It's been a fun 2019.

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