Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the Path. And you're listening to live from the Path. We're coming from the Pathway Studios here at Justin Proper, and the place is on fire tonight. From the Mo Do Do Do Coffeehouse. No. What? Yeah. What? That was weird all around. Yeah. Yeah. This this this show is about as easy to wrangle as a cocaine cat.

Okay. Here we Cats in general are hard to wrangle. Do you really need to add cocaine to the deal? Hey. That's a high end cat, though. Cocaine's expensive. This is like a top hat and monocle kind of. Cocaine a cocaine parent. Most people are like, man, the medical bills for my cats are rough. No. My cat's cocaine addiction is the worst part of me having to pay for this thing. He's legit on the streets. He's got, like, an eight ball a week. It's insane. Alright. Here's what's going on on the show Calm it down, whiskers. This week. It must be snowing outside. Buva has up.

Buva has an Ask the Pastor. What's the tell wait. Give us a heads up on the ask the pastor. It's about the Judas kiss. Who? It's it's bound to be good. Okay. Heads, I want you to so just focus your mind on the the Judas kiss. And that's Buva has a question about it. I got a I got a question about It stumped the papers. I'm reading my bible this week, and I I I I slowed down for a moment when what? Okay. There's gonna be a song there somewhere. Now the second item, I forget what the cat was is Buva an idiot? What was the categorization of the question? I mean, sounds like something you would want to ask the crowd. Is Buva an idiot? The only answer is yes. No. The sit I wanna know, I ran into a situation this last week, and I would like to know if I'm

just a schmuck or if I'm I'm thinking at least halfway right. Because, like, I have a feeling that it could go one or two ways. Yep. And and I'm I'm just interested to hear the crowd's perception, and then I would also like to open it up to those who would like to use the live from the PATH complaint line. Okay. To, to let us know. Okay. That's (515) 517-0085. Good. I'm glad you stepped in there because I started that train. I didn't know the rest of You know, as I saw your face losing confidence throughout the end of the phone number, I was like, that is that is like a child trying to memorize parents' phone number for the first time. It's 515551700085, I think. We we've been doing this for, like, what, twelve, thirteen years, whatever. I don't think I could even say our website. I just like just didn't hear mypath.org.

I don't yeah. See? I don't know. It's the name of the show. I just trust you guys. And then letting people know that we're an organization. Hey. Actually We must be something. Here's here's where I sympathize with Dan. I find that, like, I get involved in just a a wide variety of stuff. And some of those things, like, I'm directly responsible. And so, like, think of Dan's nor like, day to day life. He's responsible for 10,000 things at the church. True. And so if you get involved in a situation where you're like, you know what? I trust all of that to be handled by somebody else in some situation. Professionals do it. Yeah. It's just it's just yeah. The I think we probably have a website. I bet. We may check that complaint line. Seems fine. Yeah. Check us out on our socials. I'm sure somebody does it. Someone probably It's out there. Yeah. Hey. You gotta do it somewhere. You can't run all the things. Right. I think that's healthy, Dan. You gotta back off. No one to back off. Mike backs out on the last two digits of our complaint line phone number. I was about to put my wife's phone number in there because I couldn't remember what was up. Also, hey. My friend Will stopped by, Will. Will. How's it going? I'm doing good, guys. Yeah. That's up to mic. Me earlier.

It's a good thing Will's here. Will's gonna add a lot of commentary, and, he's real wise about all things. Does he go by, are there any nicknames that he goes by, like like, Will Will the hammer? I don't really think we need to get into that. Will? Oh, what? That means there are some. They're just embarrassing. Close to home there, I think. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's none of your business. Alright. Anyway, Will Does anybody call you William? Will the sickle is in the Will the sickle? Are you Russian? Not yet. I knew a Karl once. Alright. So here's here's what we're gonna do. We're going to, we're gonna separate the Buva,

segments by That's good. A few check ins with the news story. So It sound like an earthworm. I I want you to think about that you keep thinking about the Judas kiss. Hold it in one hand. Is Buva an idiot is the first item, and then this then we'll do a couple stories, and then we'll come back to, the Judas question. Alright. Okay. First, is is Buva an idiot? I mean, feel like I gave it a perfectly understandable, like, explanation, and then you keep coming back to his Buva an idiot. Okay. Sorry. What what did you call it? I just wanna know if, like, I'm being a schmuck on something or or if I'm halfway on, like, not being a schmuck. Can we just vote now? This this needs to a more I think that'd be understandable. Across the room, is Buva being a schmuck, is he just a normal human being? He he the biggest jerk in the world. The world. The world. K. Dan, what's your call? I'm gonna say Yeah. Yeah. Will? Dan's yes on Schmitt. It's a hard yes. Completely depends, but I would say any given day, it's a yes. Okay. The odds are ever in your favor. I think it's a no. Hey. Thanks. I think you've made great strides in life. You know, the it's down to me.

It's down to you to tie it to tie it beforehand on whether or not I'm a schmuck. It's not down to you. Hold on. I didn't finish my commentary. Move on. You you've made great strides in life. The world is a box of crayons, and you, sir, are a maroon. Does the box have the sharpener included? Because I always thought that was Topshop. There may be too many things. I forgot about that. Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah. It was. If you were if you got a box of, like, the 64 crayons that did not have the sharpener in the back Yeah. Lame. Totally lame. That was bad. I think that was parents just trying their best to give their kids one good thing. If I could give you anything, kiddo, I'm giving you a box of crayons built in shrimp. Right. That's a that's a top shelf apartment complex gift. Nobody lived in a steady home had to have a crayon sharpener because that was the way to spend 60¢ extra to make your kiddo feel loved when Christmas was gonna be real rough this year. An absence of both parents, sir.

You get a sharpie. Where's dad at? Did you notice this has a crayon sharpener? Good. Because I wore down forest green. That used to be his favorite color. The only one I used, daddy. Oh, gosh. They got this got real sad. Okay. Good. Here's Booba. Smoke. Smoke. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Alright. Thanks, Booba. So My vote's yes, by the way. Yeah. Three one. Don't think that was I I think that could have been left unsaid, actually. Sorry. I was in a situation this last week where someone had said something to me

that was something that they needed to do on their car and I had access to their vehicle and I decided to just do it for him. Yeah. Just trying to be loving. Yeah. And so I did it and I didn't do it so that they would like praise me. I did it because I wanted to show them love. Then a couple days had passed, and it seemed like the thing that I did was completely unnoticed. Yeah. Like, they did not even pay attention to the fact that, like, they had complained to me about something, and then it it did not like, it did not dawn on them at all that they no longer had to do it because it had already been taken care of. Was this was this, like, mechanical?

Car wash. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Well, it's a mechanical car wash. So And put put gas in it full of the washer fluid. Yeah. It's it's it's a thing that they they said they would do. Yeah. Something you would think you would notice. Right? Okay. And so a couple days went past, and this person didn't notice at all. And so I was just like, I'm not I'm not worried about the fact they didn't notice. Like, I didn't do this so that they'd be like, wow. You're the best. I really appreciate what you did. But I thought to myself, I wanna tell them that I did it, not because I want them to praise me, but because I want them to know that I love them. Like, I want them to feel the love that they no longer had to do the thing. And then I I started thinking to myself, like, should I do it or should I not? Because what I don't want this to turn into is any semblance of, like, hey. I want you to praise me, or I want to feel good about the thing that I did because that was never the intention in the first place. I figured they'd go, oh my gosh. Thank you for doing that. Like, I know I had said it, and I never thought to do it, and now I don't have to. Thank you for loving me. But I didn't. I didn't say anything, and I really was like, man, I don't wanna be stuck in a situation where I think that it's anything about honoring me. I just want them to feel the love. And so I really wanted to know what you guys' thoughts would be on. In that kind of situation, like, is it am I being selfish by even thinking this way, or am I am I halfway not a schmuck? Because I really just want them to know that, like, they no longer have to worry about it. I love them, and it's done. I mean Oh, go ahead. Is aren't all indications that they're not worrying about it? Like, you already succeeded.

Excuse me. Okay? Fair. That's totally fair. Yes. And that's why I wanted to ask the question because I didn't think it was super obvious either way. Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't wanna be in a dangerous place where I'm like, I'm I wanna allow this to be spoken into because I don't want to hold that. Is it your wife? No. Here's the thing. If it was my wife, I only need one person in this whole world to validate me besides Jesus Christ. Like, I think you're great. And so I would immediately do anything, like wipe off the counter, and I would go find my wife and go, hey. I wiped the counter off. And then she would go, good job, I guess. That's a regular item. I'm like, thanks. That's all I needed. You did a thing that I've done 415

times this week. Yeah. Yeah. But you did a good job, right? Yeah. Thank you. I wanted you to know I did it. It's it's pathetic, really. But it is how I live my life. Actually Well, that turned a different way with Mike. I was gonna ask that too, actually, because I that is the one person where I I I the longer that my wife and I have been married, the less we are likely to appreciate some of the things that people in our house do. Yeah. Right. And so as part of the way and we're not great at this as far as how often we do it. But it's like when we check-in with each other and like, hey, how are things going? Blah blah blah. Like one of the things the person is asking the other person is, is there anything

that you have done for me for my benefit that I did not notice? Oh. That that specifically for not for the purpose of so that, like, they can lavish praise on you, but so that it right sizes in your mind the things that you just you get used to and start to ignore. That like, you know what? That guy always does this. My husband always does this for me. And like sometimes you just don't realize Yeah. That this person is doing something to help you. Or that like like nothing feels worse than doing something kinda like you've done where you're like, I'm going to to serve my wife in this way. And like, it it it's a nothing burger. Right. She does not notice. Now but and this this I think applies to your situation here too, is that

you you risk if you live a life in which these are the types of things that you do, any one occasion is not worth talking about. Right. Right. Totally. Now, I mean, if you've done this for a year, it's almost a funny story to eventually go, hey. Do you realize you've not cleaned out the compartment on your driver's side door in your vehicle for a year? And like And you've never noticed that the trash that you put in there disappears. Yes. Right. No matter how many and like, this is my family. I no matter every how often I go into this the car that my family travels in. I drive separately in my own vehicle most of the time. There's we have a family car. There's always like avocado mash and bananas. Like things that stink and attract bugs. Yeah. And somehow they're in my in this family vehicle. And my wife claims that she doesn't do this. She's like just taking things up from the back from the children. I'm like, but it's it's still over there though. And so anyway, I clean this thing out every time I get in there. And I don't announce it because Yeah. Why? Right. But, like, at the but here's the thing, is that realistically,

I do I do it for her because, like, I don't I don't look over there. I don't drive this car all the time. But I would say, if it's one time, I wouldn't bother saying anything at all. Because, like, eventually, someone if you're if you just live a life like this, it'll they'll see it, and they'll appreciate all the more. That's that would be my Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say I'd say that the the fact that you are thinking about it at all means you're thinking about it too much. Oh. Yeah. Okay. It it was like you just that's just your life. That's who you are. You're a servant, you just serve. Yeah. No. Absolutely. That's and that's why I wanted to bring it up at the first place. Was because I'm really smuck. I think that I'm gonna go. That that seems like the time. Oh. That I I should just leave. Will, Will, what do you think about this? Do you think Boo was being a schmuck, or he should really say something so that people could feel the love?

I don't really know. Those wise words from Will the sickle. Will the sickle really really hammered it down. Yeah. I have a lot of a lot of life experience in this field. Yeah. A lot more experience living life than you guys have. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's real. Zero output on this particular question. It's a fantastic argument for authority. Yeah. It's just it's just the one thing that I'm Well not too not too confident. The vast done a vast collection of my wisdom

that has been fought for through eons of life. But, unfortunately, fellas, you stumbled on the one. You stumbled on my Achilles heel of wisdom. The one weakness I have

is dang it for serving people, which ought to it does kinda point back at you weirdly that you have so much life to live, and none of it is about serving people, but that's whatever. Woah. Woah. If we had asked the, upholstery proclivities of sixteenth century Russian czars filled, the sickle would have been like, ding ding ding.

I'm ready. This is no problem at all. Know? And I say That's exactly why I wanted to bring it up was because the fact that, like, I think that I do fight a really deep seated need for validation that existed in me a a really long time ago that I fought for to kind of eliminate. And maybe today still. And maybe today still, which is exactly why I wanted to bring it up because I'm willing to be open about that to go, hey. Am I being a schmuck about this? Yeah. And just let it go and leave it alone. I don't think so. I I mean, I here's what but if I had to guess, I would say it's 80%. You just want it. There's 20% of, like, I'm in a little bit, though. I want people to know that I love them, and there's a validation in it that, like, it meant something to them. Yeah. 20% of of which it's not distinct. 20% is for you. You benefit from that. Sure. Yeah. And then the other 80% is just like, hey, man. I want you I I did an act of service

as a love language. If this is the way I said I love you as an example, I want you to hear it. Yeah. Right. Just like if you were to say to your wife and she didn't hear it, you'd be like, hey. No. Really. I wanted you to hear it. Yes. Exactly. I I yeah. I think it's a reasonable question. I would just, I think it accumulates with Dan's advice. As long as if you're spreading love all over the place, they're gonna catch on. I like that. Okay. Hold on. Small caveat. Let's say that there was a baseball flying at somebody's head. Yeah. And you said, hey, man. You should duck, and they didn't hear you. And then you insisted upon it. Right? Like, would you just go, well, I don't wanna make a big deal on the fact that I was trying to help somebody, and so you didn't say it again. But then you if you if you say it the second time, now you've insisted that they hear you trying to help them, but they avoided getting hit by the baseball. But then you're making it about you when they get hit by the baseball because they're trying saying. So, like, you made it about you when you don't tell them, and you also made it about you when you did. I feel like it has nothing to do with you. You just know that there's a baseball flying in somebody's head, and you were like, hey. You didn't hear me the first time. So I'm gonna say it louder the second time. I want you to really know feel some weird, like, am I needing validated if my kid was running into the street, didn't hear me the first time? Uh-huh. And so I raised my voice the second time, so they did. Basically, sir, you just proved my point. I don't don't think. I don't follow this gentleman at all. This is nuts. This is not tracking at all for me. The same situation. 515. Would you tell me that if I were to see someone who was about to light themselves on fire? And I went, hey, dude. No. Don't light that. And they were like, forget that guy. I was like, no. No. No. Really don't. And and he had a powdered dog. And it was weird. I made it about myself the second time. I raised my voice at him to to not catch on fire. Yes. So Exactly. So here's here's how you solve it. And like using your example, Mike, from cleaning off the counter. Let's let's say there's like flour all over the counter and and you're like, man, I'm gonna clean this up. You only clean 95% of it. So so five percent's left. So they're like, okay, you missed something and you're like, oh, that's because I got the rest. Thanks for bringing it up. I I missed that part. Sorry. So then you get the credit and they notice you did it. Oh, wow. Wow. I feel really good about my original premise here because that's the thoughts that Dan has. I'm like, hey, You should 95%

of the way fix a problem so that they notice that it's still there, and they go, Otherwise, there's enough flour there to make at least three raviolis. What are you doing? Moses, Dan. I think you got, like, that would not that would not fly at my place Oh. At all. Hey. Right. You would get to rate more for having done 95 than zero. Actually, here's I thought Dan was gonna say so Dan gave some advice to a question I I had, like, six or eight months ago. And it, it changed my it didn't change my perspective, but it brought it to a much finer point. I was approaching the question wrong. My question was, I kept finding myself going into, restrooms,

specifically in the Starbucks, but it could be in places where it's like a unisex bathroom. Yeah. And you go in there Yeah. And some dude has Not everywhere. Johnny Weissmuller all over the piece. Tarzan all over the place. Yeah. K? And the thing man. And the thing you don't want to happen is you you go in there, and then you go use your bathroom, and you do it in a proper way. And then there's a lady waiting to come in, and she's gonna think, hey. She's gonna think you did the hose. Guy did it. And so I said, hey. You know, am I should I be obligated to clean this up? And Dan's answer was, no one should come in and stand and pee. You should clean it up regardless. And I'm like, doggone it, Dan. That's right. Yeah. That's probably that's a thoughtful way to do it. I was more concerned as as to whether she thought I did it, not nobody should walk and pee if they can avoid it. And so that I thought I thought that was what Dan was gonna say to this situation. No. But, no, he went with something else completely. Better. So but, Ben, you brought up an interesting thing that now is my second question because in in my marriage, there's one specific thing that happens where my wife we have two cats and, like, her her chore, her responsibility is cat litter. Yeah. Like, that's her thing.

And every once in a while, like, it'll it'll it'll pile up. No pun intended. Mhmm. And I'll go in, I'll do it. Yeah. And, like, I'll tell her that I did it. But it's not because I want her to go, oh my gosh. Thank you so much for doing it, love. It's because I know how much it's sitting on her mind. Yeah. Like, she'll be dreading the fact that when she gets home from work, she's gotta clean up all the cat poop. And, like, I wanna relieve her of that and just be like, hey, baby. By the way, I know this is on your mind. You're probably thinking about it right now. Don't worry about the cat litter. It's already done. And she'll go, oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I really didn't say that so that I get to thank you. I said it so that it is no longer a chore in her mind Yeah. That is weighing her down. You you go just, so so it doesn't seem too self serving. You just have to like, a code word for it. You she comes in, you go, plot, plot, fizz, fizz, baby. And then she'll know what a relief it is, and she'll know that she doesn't have to worry about it. Well, do you have any idea what he's talking about? I love Dan's affirmations for me. I do not He's passing them out. Do you understand plot plot fizz fizz? Oh, what a relief it is?

It's from an Alka Seltzer commercial. I have to is no. I don't understand. Do you what Alka Seltzer is? Very correct. Okay. Yeah. So do you know what Alka Seltzer is? I was really interested to gauge the room on who all was getting the Alka Seltzer reference. Okay. And it seems like it was about 80%. I'll tell you I'll tell you what's funny. So, in the last show we did, I was I was doing the audio editing on it, and I said the phrase circle gets the square. And, like, I have not heard or said that phrase for twenty years probably. Mhmm. And I have no idea why that came out of my mouth. Buva, do you know what that's from? Tic tac toe? No. It's more specific than that. Mike, do you remember? Yeah. It's a game show. The celebrity of tic tac toe? Yeah. It's celebrity. It's Hollywood Squares. Oh, it was what it was called. Remember Don Knotts was on there. Yeah. That thing that happened before I was alive. Yeah.

I've had no occasion to say that, and I just can't I I feel like, most of my, references that are way out of date are referring to old commercials or TV shows. Yeah. Yeah. And they're just in there. Hey. If we're if we're willing to call you out and and and and paint the wall here, like, I believe there are situations in which you just come up with your own phrases and has nothing to do with something that happened on TV thirty years ago. It's just you going, I'm gonna say this thing, and I'm a say it confidently. And so everybody in the room just be like, yeah. Sounds good. That sounds about right, Ben. Okay. That could be. Anyway, what's your favorite, old time game show? Uh-oh. Do we lose you up? Hey. Never mind. Hey. What what hello? What is popping in and out? Okay. Hey. I don't I know that sounded real weird to you guys. I'm not gonna fix it because I'm lazy, so we're just gonna move on.

Think it was I was trying to get you to call to the plate line. (515) 517-0085. Call or text. I wanna know your favorite. I say old timey game show. I don't know how far back that has to go. Think like, what's the one with go whammy, go whammy, stop. Press your luck. Press your luck. Yep. About that era. That's cool. I heard of that one. Yeah. What? Really? I used to watch match game. Oh, yeah. Match game. Or the different year every year. I'd watch the the New Year day,

show, and then It's match game seventy eight. I have to tell you, fellas. There's really only one game show I know, and it's the fastest growing Internet game show, Secular versus Song. That's true. I almost prepared one for tonight. That would have been perfect. What a letdown. Now we gotta, like, go record one after the fact and then plug that in there because that'd be great. Alright. Here we go. So we'll resolve this question. I would say, not a schmuck, but otherwise, let it go. Okay. Fair enough. I'm willing to take that in. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay. Like a baseball is heading to somebody's head. Oh, nobody. Nobody. Here's my baseball. Hey. You didn't hear me. You're gonna hit my baseball. I don't know why you lose syllables as it goes. Remember when Boo Boo was doing that that impression of that frog god?

I laughed so hard at that. Even on the replay. Who's this Yahweh? Who who's this Yahweh? I thought it was and I hate when I I like what boob has done, and it happened to me. Okay. The Christian Post had an article this week. A Catholic church in Missouri has issued an apology for its bulletin mistakenly featured an advertisement calling for the formation of a militia. What? This is the Catholic church in general? No. It's, in Missouri. Hold on. The ad displayed in the June 16 bulletin. This I'm having a trouble. Like, this isn't the newspaper.

This is like yeah. This is like Margaret prints that every week. Right? Wait. Wait. Does the Catholic church sell space in their bulletin for advertisements? It's not it's not well, maybe. Oh, yeah. Maybe it's an advertisement. So it says the the ad displayed oh, wait. Yeah. The ad. You're right. They're, like, selling space in there like the coffee news. Yeah. That is fantastic. I'm gonna start doing the bulletin again. It urged young men aged 18 to 29 to join and protect the holy Eucharist, congregation, clergy, and church grounds from potential threats. Wait. Why would an external party take an ad out and just say protect the ground? Something weird. What's the holy ukulele?

Okay. Just to clear up some Catholic things. Protect the Eucharist, that's communion. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they basically have a communion guard and then someone to watch the parishioners while they're in the seats and then someone to patrol the grounds and the yeah. Okay. Got Yeah. That's called church security, I think. Just normal. Run-in the middle. Never heard of it called the militia. Would get more people involved if you called it a militia. You don't want the kind of people who would get involved once you started calling it a militia. True. That is that is one great way to figure out who you do not want to apply. I don't know who these guys are, Carl and Beasy. I come join the church militia. AR 15 required. Mary's headed to the priest to get the Eucharist. Take her out. How good are you with a red dot friend? Yeah. I just got one name, Beasy.

I'm on a furlough. Alright. It says the, Ascension Catholic Church in Chesterfield swiftly retracted the advertisement through a post on the homepage of its website this week clarifying that no militia was being formed and expressed regret over the ad's inclusion in the bulletin. The statement emphasized that the notion of needing a militia for church protection was inappropriate and unhelpful and reassured the community that there had been no threats against the church. I mean, if they just said to your earlier point, hey. We need some folks to help with security around here, which Sure. Like, this does seem like, you don't need a militia. No. A guy or two around to make sure weirdness isn't happening. I'm not sure that I don't know. Yeah. Call security. That's fine too. It says, the advertisement which included oh, sorry. The ad was from an individual who was recruiting members for a group he called the legion of Saint Alana

according to the statement. That is that is fantastic at the fact that this has been called a militia and is being referred to as a legion. This is amazing. What does it mean? What is a legion? No. What is santalana? Oh, I don't know that part. Separate words, or is it all one together? Hold on. Is it saint Alana? Sacred wool. It is the legion of sacred wool. To wear a cloak? If they're not if that's wet wolves in sheep's clothing if I've ever heard of it. Why why are they guarding the communion and not the people? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they said also the Nobody can touch the blood. Also, we're a little itchy. And

maybe a little much in most weather. I don't know. Okay. Why are those guys always sweaty? What's wrong with you, Beezie? It's the woo. Yeah.

Weird. This is terrible, man. Okay. This guy says the advertisement, which included a QR code with an application for membership Smartphone required. Suggests that a militia would be formed and that this group would be affiliated with Ascension Parish. The is of this is, of course, untrue. To be perfectly clear, there's no militia being formed. Okay. And regret that this item was included in the bulletin. Furthermore, the suggestion that our community might require a militia in order for us to celebrate the Eucharist is both inappropriate and unhelpful. Please be assured that there have been zero threats made against our community. Please bring your tithes, offerings, and nine millimeter.

Please bring us your most recent spread at the target range. Shop score, BZTJK. But none of those games, it better be at the the profile of the criminal. I don't okay. First of all okay. I have a lot of questions. One, if you're putting together a homemade Catholic church type of

brochure, like, for weekend for every weekend, don't you think the word militia would stand out to you as you Right. Put it together on the computer and you're like, Tom's Flowers 10% off U Haul rental militia. Let's start a militia before the Eucharist. Yeah. And could there be anything more Missouri white man sound right? Instead of militia in a Man, I joined the Legion of Salamanca recently. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's all about the woo.

Secret of woo. It's funny to think about now, I mean, some of this melds with with how the Catholic church thinks of the Eucharist it Yeah. Itself. But they also believe it happens in the moment, like, that it's actually Christ's blood, but that it's in the it's not like it's not like it's on the shelf. Yeah. You don't have a vat of Jesus. Of the Lord's blood. Yeah. Because it would And be needs to be protected. Because the thought is, like, what happens if you attack the lord's blood? Like, you can't it's already blood. Like, I don't You can't hurt it. What's gonna happen? You should maybe spill it. You can't defeat it. Is Eucharist is the is Christ in there? Is that is that part of the word? Are you trying to say that is close to Christ? Yeah. Is that is that what? I don't think so. Because I don't think I don't because that's Latin, not Greek. Yeah.

Isn't it like the meal? Well, it's a weird word to have. And what what like, without it meaning something. The militia of the Eucharist. Anyway Okay. I thought that was We're gonna let it go. An awesome Catholic themed band name. Yeah. I'd stay out of Missouri. That's that's Let's stay out of Missouri.

They got militias everywhere. I didn't know they had to societies and stuff in some of the movies out there that maybe maybe it's been a long standing thing. We just didn't know. We didn't know they were called the militia. Yeah. That's true. We should call Dan Brown. Dan Brown has this kind of information. He's still alive. Who's Dan Brown? He wrote the he wrote the Tom Hanks. What am I thinking? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Da Vinci Code? Yeah. That's what was trying think of, but I can think of the the yeah. That's amazing. He wrote the Tom Hanks. You know, Dan Brown. You know what I was saying. You know. You know. Dave Yellow. He was the best. Alright. Hey. Also, a follow-up from last week. Last week, we got, we were talking just a little bit about the I said that there was a pastor who had had inappropriate contact with a young lady Yep. And had, like, again, we were talking about it in the in the realm of we were overly focused on the restoration of the committer and not the protection of the victim Mhmm. In in some of the stuff we were talking about. So, just a a quick update. That guy did resign,

from the church Okay. Which he totally, shouldn't have been allowed to do in the first place. And so that's that's a right comeuppance. And, I would anyway, just just to let you know that that did not continue to go. Like, the the elders claimed that, the version of events that they had been told, was not near as severe as what actually happened. Yeah. Like, oh, it was a younger woman. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. She was 12. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Right. A young lady, not like a girl. Yeah. A young girl. She was just a younger woman. Yeah. I mean, here's the deal. Check it out. I mean, fellas They they they go after me. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I know you. You're a groomer. Yeah. Yeah. You're a dirty purvo, and you got yeah. Just a heads up. The Eucharist, the word comes from the Greek word for thanksgiving Mhmm. And then it got translated into French. And

the French is Euchariste, and then now we say Old English Eucharist. And that's where it came from. Interesting. But it's Thanksgiving. Yeah. So the Euchariste thing I said, possibly not the right rendering. I didn't think it was, but I wasn't gonna comment it. More

Latino. Euchariste. Euchariste. Euchariste. But in either way, it is definitely a Greek to French translation, which got us to Eucharist from Thanksgiving. It happens. Interesting. Yeah. Alright. And real quick, we're gonna see if you are guilty of these seven big lies that Christians believe. Oh, dear. I'm guessing guilty of at least three of these. Sharpen it up, sickle. They're coming your way. Mike's at two at least. Okay. Here we go. Lies that Christians believe. You shouldn't tell god your struggles or doubts. What?

I think you should hide him. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty pretty obvious in biblical history that, like, hiding things from the Lord works. Okay. Now hold on. Before we're gonna we're gonna give this list a fair shake. No worries. Because I wanna you to act like you have not been following Jesus for lifetimes. Okay. Let let me I'll read the the setup. Alright. As a Christian Why would I do that? That sounds ridiculous. As a Christian, you may have been led to believe that you shouldn't worry god with your struggles in life. Now by who would do something like that? No. We're giving this a fair shake, my friend. But it's they went You said that no more than thirty seconds ago. Like a guy in a trench coat's like, hey. Let me tell you something. Yeah. Send this to Jesus. Second lie that most Christians believe, Jesus's name was actually Noah and

Hector. Yeah. Listen. Jesus and Hector. Listen to your friend John Pilsner. It says, God has a whole universe to run, so he doesn't have time to deal with your small problem. This isn't true at all. God knows that living the Christian life can be hard at times, and there isn't always a clear answer or explanation to your problems. God wants to help you through your struggles and doubts. Being honest and open about the trials you are facing doesn't make you less religious. Instead, it actually brings you closer to God because it forces you to get rid of your pride.

It's difficult when I believe all the things that we believe in faith Mhmm. Of of how holy and wonderful and powerful god is. And that you could ever believe that that same being that you're putting all this faith into is somehow boxed in by your understanding of what he can and can't do. Like, oh, he's got a whole universe to run. I can't possibly put on the worries from my life onto him. Right. I mean, he's got he's got every star in the in the universe

on lockdown. But, like, oh, boy. But if he only knew about my money troubles, it would just be too much for him to bear. Ridiculous. Yeah. Here's the deal. It's like, you know what's interesting? We will check these as we go through the list. But like, big lies that Christians believe, you would have a very hard time coming to most of these

if you even did a cursory reading of your scriptures. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, so here's the here's the thing. If you don't know whether you're believing big lies, like, big lies can be told to you by people. Big lies are not told to you by scripture. Right. And so like if you hear, I care about I know even the count of the hairs on your head. If you see Jesus going, no. Let the little children come when the disciples had it wrong and they're trying to get them away. Like, these types of pictures force you to go, you know I was being a little bit silly there when I thought that God couldn't handle this. Yeah. And so it sounds these are things that people can believe absent

of any scriptural references at all. They they should retitle this Bad Assumptions by Biblically Illiterate People. Seven Things You Might Believe If You Haven't Opened Your Bible Yet. Right. Yes. Yeah. And so I say that to say, it's not to shame you and like, well, we only read your Bible, dummy. You wouldn't be convinced of these lies. It's to tell you this is why we do it though, is that, like, we can't we don't end up under the false impression of god based upon the thoughts of Steve

who just had an idea that he shared with other people that felt powerful to him, which is the Internet ad ad hoc. Yeah. And so was like, hey, man. Don't burden the lord with your problems. That's right. He's got enough to deal with already. Just to Form a militia with me. The militia of the sacred wolf. You can handle it. And we use Latin so it doesn't sound like we're a little sheep. The steel wool would be a lot better militia than him. You gotta Steel wool sounds like a terrible eighties cover band. These dudes It's an it it's a Petra cover band is what it is. Oh, these dudes for sure cut their own jean shorts. Do know what I'm saying? And they they cut them high. They're tactical, Mike. They're tactical. Oh, no. It allows me to have a belt that carries my nine but still have some breathability from my knees. I can see one of these fellows coming up to, like, protect the Eucharist during the week and, like, the lady at the front mistaking them for a hobo. Like,

here, sir. We've collected alms and bread for you. He like, no. No. I'm here to protect the Eucharist. That guy smells like Jimmy Buffett. What he what's he doing here? Yeah. One drink only, Bill. Hold on. Number two, lies that, be big big lies that Christians believe. Your behavior affects God's love for you. Some Christians believe that those who sin less or are more religious are more loved by god. It can be easy to think this way and believe we have to work and get approval or love from god.

Again, you have to have not read the bible. Right. You know how god has a love meter on all of us. Right? Now hold on. I would Oh, it's good to contend though that to get god's approval now not love and not like forgiveness,

but approval might seem a lot like obedience. Yeah. And for God to say that man was obedient, you do actually have to clear the thing. God always loved Israel. He did not always approve of Israel. Right. Plus, the Bible uses love as an action. It's a verb. Right? Like It's not a gas tank. And so he says, if you love me, right, like, in response to his love for us, you will x. Right? And so, like Obey my commandments. If this is if this is a completely one-sided relationship for you where you're like, it doesn't matter how I feel about him, He just needs to love me. Right? Like Right. Then, yes, the bible could certainly back up that you can't shake that. His his his whatever. His grace applies to all and to all equally. And so, like, that's true. But, like, to be in relationship,

to be have an action and a verb associated with your love for him, there are results that that should come out. You're there should be fruit on a tree. Yeah. I know. Like, this always seems like it's nitpicky, but, like, we have to be a little bit more precise with your words. Love? Yes. Forgive? Yes. Approve? I'd be a little bit more careful. Yeah. You won't find those words. God doesn't say, I approve of you, son. Yeah. That's right. I'm approved. Guess who gets a gold star photo today? I struggle with this because people are like, I just wanna know god's proud of me. And I'm like, why? Why? You know I'm saying? Says the dude who makes certain to tell his wife he wiped the table. Now wait now

wait a minute. I need Why do you need to be proud of? But but hold on. But the picture we get, the the well done, good and faithful servant Yeah. Has that vibe to it. And Jesus does look at it as like, this is something to go after. Yeah. I would mostly I would say people say to me after they done screwed up real bad. You know, they're like, I just wanna know that God is still proud of me. And I'm like, he's not. Like, you are separating yourself from him by your actions, words, and deeds. This is why I'm no longer in a bible study with Mike. He still loves you. None of that changed. But, like, are we trying to act that he's, like, up there going, like, good try, Gipper? You know what I'm saying? Like Yeah. I don't know that's what we are what we really think happened. Actually, I it's we it's interesting that you said that. I was thinking, probably about a week or so ago. We I've said this on the show, and everybody in the room knows this. My family is we're not the best at at building at building up of the children.

And we need to do a better job of them feeling, like, unconditionally, like, that, like, we are for you. And regardless of whether the things that you were doing, we're that's still true. And so I was running through my mind because I feel like I always have room to get better at this type of thing. And one of the that's one of the phrases that I was thinking of is this, like, could I look my kid at any time and go, I am proud of you. And I thought, no. No. That would be that would be disingenuous.

Me but because if I were to think of pride as in I would willingly as a holistic person. Yes. Absolutely. But like, any given moment, I might not just go, you know what? You just lied to me. You totally ate that cinnamon roll when no one else was looking. I wouldn't go, and I wanna show you as an example to the world of everything that I'm proud of. Not that moment. Now the person holistically, I love you very dearly, and I'm proud of you as a person, but, like, not every moment. And so I I think of it similarly to this because well, so now I gotta find other language because, like, the but the children still need built up. They need to know that whatever their fallibilities,

you are doing what you are on earth standing in for what God is also doing, which is Mhmm. You cannot, send your way out of them not loving for you, caring about you, thinking you're, like, having hope for your for your life. So I need to find a different word. But I I I liken it to some of this because that's if I look from my parenting perspective, like, God's hanging in there with me. And I don't have to doubt that he's so mad or so irritated or that he he is he would willingly proclaim his association with me even in my worst. He would go, well, for sure, Ben's my son. Absolutely.

Regardless of whether I just did the dumbest thing in the world. Right. Like, I I've struggled with that because actually you and I have talked about this before where I think you randomly texted me before the show one time was just like, do you think God is proud of you? And, like, we're just along the lines of, hey. Just think about that. Like, do are we looking for God's pride? Yeah. Like, is that kind of our our measure? And I've thought about that for a long time. I don't think we ever got a chance to really talk about it, but, like, I it hit me because without thinking about that question, I would absolutely go, I hope god's proud of me. Like, I really hope god has pride in me. Right? But, like, the way that I've I've had to kind of approach that is to go, do I care do I care that god would go, yeah, you know, stamp of approval. I'm proud of you kind of perspective, or or do I care that God would would judge me to be obedient and faithful? Like, I care about those being attributed to me in my relationship to him. I know that his love is eternal for me no matter what and and all that stuff. But, like, I care more that I'm obedient to him as one of his his kingdom people. Right? And I I care that I'm faithful to him as he is my god, my king. Like, those are the things that are my bellwether. It's not that I want god to feel a daddy pride in me. Like, I just want him to to to judge me to be faithful and obedient. It seems like the only person that I can think of in the bible where God says he's well pleased with someone who actually went to the cross.

Yeah right. So that we could be justified because we can't please him. We could be- by It's kind of the whole point of the story. Yeah, yeah. I mean I could be wrong, that's just an initial over the- But what about the feels Dan? I wanna feel good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so I think it's okay. We just have to we we have to be hold more than one thing in tandem. Right. Love

is not so simple. Well, love itself is, but, like, real relationship with people is not like, if they're happy with me, then they love me. If they're unhappy with me, then they hate me. It doesn't work in human relationships. God's relationship with us is more nuanced than that as well. Yeah. Okay. Next, number three, big lies that Christians believe. Church leadership is only for the super holy. I don't I don't know what the super holy means. Will, have you ever met a super holy person? No.

Okay. Is your name Will? I thought you said Will. I thought you said Will. Will? Yeah. Should've met a super holy person. Called him the sickle, it would then people would make the mistake. The sickle? Have you ever met a super holy person? I I would I would say I have. Oh, would you be willing to give their first name? I don't know. First one that comes to mind is probably Troy.

Yeah. I have such pride in my life. Who's who's that? Dang it. I said the wrong name to say. Yeah. Not Bubba. A different Troy. A different one. A different guy. You should expect the guy to school. Troy Aikman? Troy Aikman, the quarterback. Super

holy guy. He was on America's team. Yeah. So here's the here's the write up. Pastors, missionaries, and other church leadership are reserved for only the most holy of souls. That's, that's the big lie. The top 1% of the church body that are actually seriously in love with Christ and are being called to do bigger and better things. I'm just That is a rough percentage. Seriously in love. This is a very ingrained way of thinking that there are some that are more holy than others. Scripture, however, paints a very different picture. Yes. Everyone is just as anointed as the person next to them, and we're all being called on by God. No matter if you are a pastor, housewife, teacher, nurse, or janitor,

and they're missing a comma, God has something great planned for your future. No matter where you start out in life, you can be part of church leadership if you feel that's where God is asking you to take your talents. Oh, it just took a weird turn there. Yes. It did. It just took a weird you can be the housewife, and let's just you do that. You don't have to be in the the church leadership. Also, missionaries a part of the church? Leadership? No. Here's the thing. If people are saying yes to God's invitation, like, they experience him more when they say yes. Right? When God says, here, I want you to do this. Here, this is my plan for your life. Here, I want you to make this decision. Here, my scripture has convicted you in this way. Hey, the Holy Spirit is leading you to do a thing. Like, it's all has it's a relationship and a participation from you. And so, like, they're not 1% super holy. They're just saying yes to things. And so, like, can you be a pastor and say no to all those things? Yes. You absolutely can. You are in church leadership, and you are not listening to the Holy Spirit. You are not following your directions for that God has free life. He's trying to speak into your life and say things and send people and all kinds of stuff. And you're like, no. So, like, you can be it has zero to do with a leadership thing. It has way more to do with you saying yes to the things that God is offering. You should take a look through the Bible and see the kind of people that God calls to do big jobs. Yeah. And then go, maybe read one chapter past when God calls them to do the big job,

and usually it goes pretty rough from there. Like, they they there's some obedience, but it never goes like, and then they lived happily ever after and did all the right things forever, and God was well pleased except for Jesus. Yeah. It's always like, hey. Moses did some good stuff, but then there was a lot of rough. And David was called to be this, but then there was a lot of rough. Yeah. Honestly, like, look at almost every single person that we would consider a biblical hero Right. And then go, they went from from basically murderer to church leadership. And then sometimes back into something. Yeah. They went from Baal worshiper to church leadership. Right? They went from whatever. Like, god god redeemed them out of all kinds of things and then used that grace and redemption to pour back into the world leading other people to experience the same thing. Now there is something to be said that there is a responsibility that is is different on those that are called into leadership, but that does not that does not equate to a holiness

I don't those. Yes. So if you so if you think of the word holy as being set apart Right. I don't I was trying to think through whether I would even consider anybody of having a role post Jesus that I would consider as actually set apart. I distinct. Right. Like specific.

Yes. But not apart from a part of of which there is a specificity to the thing that they're doing. Now, the bible does talk about leaders as being judged differently, held accountable in different ways. But again, that's just the nature of the distinction of which God has provided you to function under. Not something again, they're not, it's not pastor and flock. Like, it is you are a part of a thing of which there is a particular role and responsibility. This gets to where Paul is like, some of us are are preachers, some of us are teachers, some of us are like those types of, prophets and things. And so, I I think you it's probably not valuable to think of it as hierarchical. I but to Mike's point, it is there is an obedience question to it. Yep. Like, in whatever the thing is that you are called to be doing, are you walking faithfully in that regardless of whether you're have the influence that a pastor may have for having taken all that responsibility or the influence

that a housewife may have over the direct souls in your care. Right. Which is is the exact same influence, if in fact deeper than the types of things that a pastor has an influence on. Agreed. That's a big lie. Okay. Number whatever. I think we're at four. Four. Number four, big lies that Christians believe the Bible is only a rule book. Some people find reading We're not gonna read this. That's dumb. Okay. I will tell you that there was a

there's a very good set of podcasts that the bible project did around how to think about Yes. The bible. And it's it's them. They're just they set out like, here's our theology basically. Because like there's always a bunch of questions about those guys and like, hey, how do you what what's your theology here? And like, how do we view the Bible as the Bible Project? It's super interesting. And one of the things they do a very good job of is like they're not trying to say the bible's not a rule book because they don't wanna be bound by it. They're like, what you're literally not reading it correctly to approach it in some of those ways. Even though it has an implication to you. And so, I would recommend I thought that they did a great job. I don't remember the names of them, but just look back in the bible project's history when they talk about like, what do we believe about the bible? It's a pretty good set of podcasts. Tim Mackie's good stuff. Here we go. Church isn't important.

Going to church can feel like something that you have to do. The sicker was saying that just before the show started. Going to. He said not something that you want to do. It becomes a part of your weekly routine, but isn't something you give much effort to. I don't know what you mean by effort. Like you run into the place? Yeah. I mean, whether you walk, stroll, or take a cab, I mean, got dirty. Yeah. You know you have a relationship with God, so church isn't important. But church is so much more than that. We should be seeing church as a body, not just a building. The bible talks about the church as a living and breathing entity, like a hive mind, if you wanna think of it that way. Church isn't just a place you came You to know I'm saying, boo? Yes, I do. Church isn't just a place you come to sing and hear some preaching. It's a place where you make connections with other Christians. Chop it up and embrace the body of Christ. Chop it up. Okay. She didn't say that. I I added that in. It felt active. We're gonna go chop it up. I hate that so much. I shouldn't be allowed to do things. Yeah. I think if you read your bible, I don't know if you're ever gonna find the phrase going to church. Now I talked to a guy. When we started

when we started the house church, I met with a guy who was very averse to it. And his position was, I said, it's not it's not the building. He's like, god set up a building. He he he put a tabernacle. He did a temple. He's obviously not averse to the pattern of going to a place. It was a it was a it was a right critique. Right? Like, it's the right question. Was like, look how God has behaved. He cannot be averse to a central place of meeting as if it is the source of devilry.

Given that, he expressly set it up that way. He's told now, I didn't believe that anyway. But like, it was that was his critique, which, like, the right answer is, well, I mean, then talk to Paul and talk to everybody who did basically first hundred years of the church was in houses and so and they didn't think it was wrong. Also, the central place in of in those situations was his place. Yes. Was it was it was where he resided. His That's right. His seat was there. And so where where the notion of where his presence lives within humanity changes, then the notion of where you engage with that also changes. Exactly. Right. And, like, that was the conversation we had. But it it wasn't I I I don't think you have to antagonize the structure

Agreed. Without always but also asking the question, what does it mean to it? Is it okay not to go to the thing? Well, it might be, but it's not okay to completely disengage to the thing that Jesus' relationship is actually with, which is the church. Right. God sets this up because you need to be in communion with other people because they need to be able to speak into your life. You need to learn from them. You need to be loving on one another and and fulfilling being obedient to god's, god's commands with them as a group. Like, there's work to be done, and you can work with workers to do it. Yeah. So, actually, this brings up a really good question. And, Dan, I'd be curious

how you've engaged with this question. Because one of the things that I've been I've noticed is that the more the more you take the structure of, like, what does it mean to go to church away from something that feels formal. And again, like my environment invites this. And how's church invites this? Because like it's it's not as structural. It's looser. It could be anybody's house. If that's church, and I would say the community is,

I've had people say, well, I go to my kid has sports on a Sunday and I go hang out with those people and we talk, we commune, we interact. That's my church. It's got the things that you're saying. We sometimes we'll pray together there, and, we hear we talk about things that are going on and share our struggles and all the while taking in the ballgame. Like, and I think the

this is this is there's always an interesting balance as as you try to tear down things that appeal, feel like they're facades. You run the risk also then, like, well, where did the line go when people like, well, then this counts as my church. And how do you so, Dan, I one, I like, are you running into anything like that, and how would you speak to it? Boy, I had all kinds of things going through my mind. So if someone's idea of the church is a worship service,

then they're not going to church anyway. They're going to a show. They're going to an event. Yep. That the church is the the community. It's the the the involvement in a mission, the the body of Christ and doing kingdom work. And so it it goes way beyond the walls and the time frame of a Sunday morning at 09:00 and 10:30. That might be part of it. It's a small part of it. Actually, it's the smallest part of it. It's it's the engagement that we do together in the name of Christ

wherever we go, whatever we do. And so if you're missing that, if if your idea of going to church is just that service, then then you you've missed the book completely. Yep. So, you I don't if that really answers your question but but the so our challenge has always been to go beyond. That's like an entry point, it's a front door. Yep. And we say, okay, good, you've made here. That's step one, great. Now let me introduce you to the mission of Jesus Christ and let's do this. And then we grab them, and we go around and do stuff. Do some stuff. So an interesting follow-up question then is, let's say, if someone is otherwise, like, doing it, like, they're living a a life following Jesus, they're interacting with folks kinda throughout all the week, how important is the gathering?

Is what we would traditionally think of as a Sunday service or an intentional communing that is often doing things like worship and preaching and stuff. I'd say it's a critical part of the body gathering together for worship and teaching and celebration and the whole thing. I don't care if it's on a Sunday or if it's a Saturday or a Monday or Tuesday or whatever, or if it's in sometimes

smaller settings or bigger settings or whatever, I don't know if that's a big deal to me. You look at the New Testament church, they met every day in the temple courts. They weren't necessarily going to temple, some of them probably were. They were gathering, that was the marketplace of ideas and teaching and focusing on God. It's interesting to me that the question of

where if otherwise integrated in your life, is there a place let's say that the folks who are doing it every day. Every indication I think that we have historically is that the early church still like they there was something specific about their meeting on a particular day. Was it like and it was Sunday for them like this when they would have done it. And so I I think there, what you don't see,

we know that from church history. We don't really know that from the New Testament. The New Testament doesn't say, hey, one, we moved the Sabbath to Sunday. It also doesn't say, hey, this is our this is how we do church as an event. Right? It it very much felt more organic and missional and communal and those types of things. And so, like, one of the one of the things, to to even speak to this conversation, I thought, well, I can't really point to somewhere in the New Testament where it's like, yes, where everything else, if you're meeting with other people and integrated into your life, this is the thing. You have to keep doing this particular event. Its absence doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And like again, the the every pattern of the early church would tell me that they they did do it and they did find a value to it. But I think there's a squishiness to it because it's not dictated.

That particular shape is not dictated. So it's interesting. I mean, was definitely teaching, there was preaching, there a Lord's Supper. And then when they did decide how to do it in Corinth, you know, Paul's like, hey, guys. You guys, guys are messing this up. You know, they got they just went overboard. So, there are elements that are definitely part of what the church does. Yeah. Together. Yeah, that's a good point.

Maybe if you were otherwise meeting kind of every day and these elements existed, then maybe it's less of a deal. But if generally, culturally, this is the opportunity where someone's showing up, there's there is a teaching or an interaction with scripture and a active prayer. That's not just, oh, we kinda we shared life updates and we prayed a little bit about things like these these elements of communal worship, not ticking the box, but, like, we want to be a part of those. Mhmm. And we want to be refined by the the the preaching and sharing of God's word. Those would be the elements where, like, I don't know. If if every hour if if if an hour for every day, you happen to make all that stuff happened, maybe like, what are we even talking about? Maybe I don't care at all. But if it's not happening,

then it's probably best to align to the pattern that's existing throughout most churches. Yeah. I I spoke of this recently that that, you know, the church attendance has declined like in national surveys and what what used to be, you know, an active church member was four times a month and then it's like two times a month. And now it's like once in a while, which I wouldn't be so worried about if they were still engaged in things like scripture and prayer and and worship and and whatever. But they're not making up for the time. That was like their only hour they got anyway. And now they're down to like an hour a week a month. I mean, than maybe four hours a month. And so they're becoming biblically illiterate and they're coming up with lists like this. And and they're they're they they don't understand God or and and and they don't understand their faith at all. Yep. Yeah. And I think, you know, one of the things that's tough here is there is I don't wanna use the word consequence, although that's half in my mind. There is an impact to this. And you're not gonna notice you may not notice it at the time. But like, it does start to show up where like, some of the things that you would expect parents especially, like, when if especially if you've got a faith background,

I I often worry about this even at so especially in our house church context, most of the people that are in a context like this have a basic familiarity with the things that are going on. And so you can kind of teach and interact with that level. And one of the risks we have is that like our kids don't have the same they didn't learn all the stuff that we learned. Mhmm. They're not coming from the same background. And so, like, if you don't otherwise make sure to go back and pick up like, what I believe now and my the habits that I have, the, the theology that is in my mind of what I think about Jesus has happened from a thousand church services and an every week accountability

group with some dudes that I haven't done with specifically for ten, fifteen year ten years probably, but I did do. And small groups that we no longer engage in as often, but I did do. And all those things lead up to a level of maturation that maybe I don't have to have

because of a season of life, but without, other people may still need or that were fundamental to how I matured in the faith. And so I think I think, it's just a caution. There's a consequence to these things. And make sure you don't just see it through my well, maybe, oh, I don't need to be there every Sunday. I kinda know all this stuff. But to your to your kids? And and is the thing that you have in your mind, is that translating to them and their interactions with the world? And I I I'm hesitant that it that it does. Like, that we're missing out simply because we're living to our own maturity, not the people that we're working with. Listen. I get some concern when

we're teaching our children that this ball game is more important than our time we've set aside for biblical instruction and time with our church family. Because you teach them that when they're 12,

then they hit 20, they've already decided, well, it's not too hard to find something more exciting than church. Yeah. I I mean, there's just lots of things out there, lots of sparkly things and then it just becomes unimportant and they miss this and they have gaps of of faith, of knowledge, and. Yeah. So. What were you saying, Mike? We're gonna have to cut half of the things that you said we were gonna get done today, Ben. What? Half. Oh, hold on. Hold on. No. No. We're doing fine. Pressure. Okay. Okay. You can't listen. This is a throwaway article, Ben.

Throwaway. It's true. Okay. We're forty minutes into this. Okay. Ready? Yes or no? God uses his power to teach people a lesson. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. This hold on. God, don't ever let people convince you that the bad things that happen to you in life are because God wants to teach you a lesson. Hebrews. What?

Yeah. We're leaving it alone. But I'm telling you what, yes, he does. Yeah. He will do he will let sin consequences fall in you for repentance. Yes. For sure. Yeah. Okay. God believe yeah. Even if you were to try to believe that, like, God does not incite something that otherwise might be considered I mean, there's a real there's an angel tussle in Daniel that you gotta reckon with. Yes. God believes money is pure evil. False. Okay. Yeah. False. What do you think, Sickle?

I agree with Mike. Solid. As usual. Thanks. Terrible way to do things. Hammer. Okay. That's it. That's the end of the article. Ask the pastor. Alright. So I'm reading through, Matthew 26, this last week. Yep. And I get to the point where Judas is is betraying Jesus. Right? And he goes and he says, what will you give me? And then he says,

the one who I kiss will be the one to seize, essentially. Yeah. This is Jesus. Yeah. We've got quite a few chapters of him causing

scenes Mhmm. All over the place, like big deals, and, like, enough to where the chief priests, the elders of the people, are are are amassing at the home of Caiaphas, and they are ready to to, like, plot in secret to go take this man to the custody to get him out of here. Right? Yep. Why the heck did they need someone to show them who's Jesus? Like, it makes no sense to me. Because I I don't think the temple, it was the temple guards. It wasn't the pharisees and the sadducees coming out there. They weren't going to the games. They weren't going to church. These are the rough and tough of blue collars. They don't give a crap about none of this. I I he's the only white guy in the crowd. I don't Right.

I don't understand. They're like, hey. We're all olive skinned, and then there's this Anglo Saxon man that looks like you and McGregor. Like, of course, that's Jesus. He's the one who's shining. Right? Like, yeah, he's the one Who's that Anglo Saxon? Let's arrest him. Is that Obi Wan Kenobi? Arrest him. Oh god. I just okay. It but It's the blue collars. That's why. That's inter like, I I did not read that from that at all. Like, I just it made no sense to me because I thought it was the chief priests and the elders. They don't do actual arresting. They're too pious.

They send out the the the the two spittens people. Them. One of are in the streets. Like, people are recognizing Jesus all over the place. Yeah. I mean, remember, like, you're you're at the time of Passover. There's, like, a few 100,000 Jews in the area. And and In the garden? No. No. But, like, could you but but the way that they would recognize him is, well, he caused trouble in the temple, in the temple courts. Right? K. Yeah. So, like, otherwise, it's not like there's pictures of Jesus hanging around.

He and every indication we have is he's a pretty normal looking Arabian dude. And so, like Anglo Saxon. Right. So so, like, he doesn't stand out except for the people are surrounding and following him or something like that. And so even if you're the temple guard, you he's caused some disturbances of which you may have been able to pick out. It's him. But, like, it's also think of it as it's possible that they don't recognize him, which I think is Well, the high priest servant was there, though. That's because he hears That's the one that Peter cuts? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's true. That's true. He well, he likely would have known. You would think. I mean He likely would have known. See? I think it's not as dumb as you're making me see. Well, okay. Well, think of it this way too. When, when they put someone in front of a lineup,

like, they obviously know the guy's in there. Right? But there's something about having substantiated that that guy in that moment pointed to the to the perpetrator. And so that's what Judas is doing. In the lineup of the 12 disciples plus plus Jesus, that's the lineup, and Judas is affirming, yes. You think that's the man? I confirm that's the man. Right?

Like, it was a it's it's a legal finger pointing that says, we made no mistake. There was a man on the scene who affirmed that this was the I suppose that does make sense because they would have, like, they would have needed an accusation. Yeah. You know, they're like why are you here? He knew why they were there. Yeah. Well, yeah, of course. Like, I recognize that part. Like, I knew Jesus full well knew that, like, I'm the guy. Yeah. Like, I'm the one. You know, why are you coming against me? Like, this is the it's a peaceful situation, fellas. You need to come at me like robbers. Yeah. I think some of the stuff specifically fulfills prophecy too that you could look at that that, you know, god said to be a betrayer. God said blah blah blah. Negative. Right here. And that that's fair. And I guess when I'm thinking about that, I think that the the setup was enough to fulfill obviously, I'm not the one who determines what fulfills prophecy or not. I'm not making that play. Did I read a book? Hey, god. I think we're good on this one. Judah doesn't have to kiss you. Like, that's weird. Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm willing to accept that then. I just I guess I was not I was not looking into it that way because I was very confused thinking like, Jesus has been doing this publicly for a long time now. And so it did not make sense to me that there's any situation in which they're like, hey. Jesus is offended and like hardcore offended these people to the extent that, like, they're ready to crucify him. And then they need to be he needs to be pointed out. Just so weirdly, like, contentious today. It's dark out, and they got torches, and it's hard to make out people's faces. Yeah. That could be true. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Almost every reason you thought was not the reason is definitely the reason. Yeah. Place major rules, Jesus of Nazareth. Yeah. Blue collar dudes with torches mostly to make have to make it blue collar? This is malecus. Is that because you can't see yourself in any situation unless it's that? No.

But the Pharisees I'm willing to leave that dirty, and the temple guard does not is not allowed to go roam out checking the stuff around. Like, they just send them out. They're just they're just got some brigands? Yeah. They get rid of they saw Jesus, they they typically, they probably wouldn't have been as close as some of the other people. Right. True. Yeah. That's fair. I've seen you from a distance. Is that Gorgeous. Ah. Is that him? Yeah. Okay. Alright. Alright. Does that him? What Google was saying is like, don't they all look the same, those people? Racist. It was a rude thing what he said. It was. What? That took a turn. Yeah. Y'all started this with Anglo Saxon stuff. I did not bring racism like, I get why they couldn't wreck that. Level four, Mubba. Level four. No one knows what that means except for you and me. And the sickle. The sickle don't speak. Can't forget about the sickle.

You could definitely forget about the sickle. That feels like a presidential campaign slogan. Don't forget about the sickle. Forget about the sickle. Okay. Alright. You're listening live from the path. If you're offended at Moova's question, it's (515) 517-0085. Call or text. If you just wanna text level four, that would be fine. Also, no one did the impression that we talked about in the last show. Oh, man. And I expected Dan to do it. I know we put him on the spot, but I expected on Thursday morning to get a Murphy from Dan, and he did not do it, and I've been disappointed in him ever since. I've had to repent of it. It was unfair. Listen to me. The masses

that that line up to watch live from the path every time we put something out. They're in the works. Just prove to me that you're real. Like, even if it's just a smiley face. Like, if you were to text us a smiley face, I think Ben and I would have a great week because we'd go, hey, man. Someone text us on the live from the Path of Plate line. Yeah. So they'd be like, what is it? Like, was dumb. It was a smiley face, but somebody did it. It's please let Mike know that you're there. He's the kind of fella that really needs to know that you approve of him and that you're you're proud of him. Need a little affirmation. You know, as a matter of fact, text the the Bob Eisenhower live from the Path Complaint line, and and let Mike know that you're proud of him. I saw Bob Eisenhower this week. Oh, yeah. But if you're Bob Eisenhower, if you could text Mike Foust at the Bob Eisenhower Life of the Path And Plate Land, that's (515) 517-0085. Here's what I did. Just say, Mike, buddy, blue collar man,

I'm proud of you. I saw Bob Eisenhower coming out of the bathroom at a Cubs game, and I texted him. I'm like, Bob Eisenhower, are you coming out of the bathroom at a Cubs game? And he's like, yeah. I was. I was like, how are you doing? He's like, pretty good. How are you doing? And then we talked a little while, and then we cut we we parted away. That's a real creepy story. I would not expect Bob to say anything to the Bob Eisenhower. Say it out loud like, hey. I see you coming out of bathroom. Watching your bathroom, man. Yeah. That's also a weird way to have any interaction. Like, you don't usually say, hey. I noticed you just came out from somewhere. Something regular that I would do. Walked us up to a Starbucks. Someone's leaving the Starbucks. I go, hey, man. You're leaving the Starbucks, aren't you? Yeah. I just saw you leaving the Starbucks, you pretentious tool. I would I would definitely seven fifty on that coffee. How are you with Jesus? It's level three. I would definitely do both of things. Absolutely. Yeah. Pretentious isn't a swear. No. It's a tool bit. That's a level two. I don't know what the levels are. I this is new to me. Alright. Let's get give us some advice. K. Now hold on. You told everybody we're gonna do an article from Dan about real estate in Mexico. Ah, shoot. I totally forgot. Did you? I don't even remember that setup. Yeah. He goes, Dan's got an article, and then he went on this seven seven traits of the church. They'll be tying next week. Okay. We'll make sure they go back. I don't think he said that. Go ahead. Sell out. There you go. They're alive from the past. Don't forget the sickle. I'm a single retired grandpa in the South. My daughter, 50, has hitched her wagon to an alky. She's circling the drain and going down with them. My grandsons are adults and scattered around the country. They are lazy, and none of them have a full time job. We used to keep them during the summers until they're mid teens. Now I don't hear from them unless I call, and then it's just a bunch of one word answers. Fine, okay, and yep.

My daughter has no retirement savings or company retirement plan. She doesn't call either. She lives four hours away. I'm certain my home, property, and possessions are their planned retirement accounts. All I need to do is die. I worked my entire life spanning a couple of full careers, and I owe nothing to anyone. I have visions of my possessions being destroyed by a couple of alcoholics or sold off for quick cash. I've decided my estate will be all donated to my favorite charity, a worthwhile cause where it will truly mean something to people who care. Pathway Church. Should I let my daughter and grandkids know now so they have an opportunity to change course and prepare, or let them be surprised after they don't go to my funeral?

Disappointed grandpa. Okay. Dang it. I I was level three alert. That guy's a pretentious tool. Here's the thing. He's like, he's got not nothing good to say about any of his family Yep. And nobody calls him. It's because he's he's that level three thing I said. I'm guessing this man lost his wife too, and he's real sad about it. We only knew who the father was. Oh, wait. Him. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And you've he's separated himself from any of these consequences, and that makes him the PT thing, I said. Is it is it because he's not sad that these are lost? He's more self righteous about it. Yeah. If he was sad that he or mourning the fact that these relationships were not continuing, this would be hurting me. I mean, I'm not against what he did. No.

Like, he doesn't owe them his inheritance or their inheritance. Like, I think it's fine that he did that. I I I think there's some relationship mending that might need to happen. He hasn't really done anything yet. Oh, he did it. He he's asking about if he should tell them or not. Oh. No. Yeah. Well, but but think of it. It's, he's like, this is the only thing that they value about me. He doesn't know that. That's the way that he reads the world. That's true. He reads the world as if which means that's the thing that he cares about, the thing that represents his value. And so, like Oh, that's undoubted. The fact that he cares about the fact that his his, you know, properties are gonna be squandered and sold away, you're dead. I'd be more concerned that my family's turned into a real goat show. Right. Yes. Yeah. They're giving him one word, you know, answer. So so let's let's say grandpa calls you up on the phone and says, hey, Bubba. I could be dead. You don't even know it. Why don't why don't you ever do anything? How where's your job? Why don't you get a job? Could you get a haircut? Yeah. Man, you're a disappointment to me. You know what I would do? You just want my money, don't you? Brave. Yep. How's your day? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. How's your day? Do you love me? Yeah. Yeah. Did you know that you're a worthless sack of crap? Yeah. Exactly. You can't even keep a full time job, and I hate you, and your mother's hook hitched up to an alkyne, and I hate her too.

Me about the boy. Buddy. How's it man? His daughter's 50. Like Yeah. So yeah. And, I mean, I mean, if maybe he's done a ton of other things and It's been twenty years since he's been any 20 of them. He worked two careers. Yeah. Here's the yeah. This is very self centered. I feel like my letter would be, well, I should probably wouldn't be asking advice. But I would be like, I got these properties at my disposal. I'm thinking about going reverse mortgage to free up some cash to try to pay to bring some of these people here to live with me, to help get them set up on the straight and narrow because wherever something failed, then it's probably me, and I'm gonna do whatever I can to rectify before I kick the bucket. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Save the right thing, you old codger. Sickle? Two. Where are you at on this?

I agree. Excellent. Remind me of myself of your agent. Dan Devilishly handsome. Which, in fact, I was probably sitting almost exactly where you are. Dan, you got any follow ups?

No. No. I like what Ben said. I think I think that he needs to invest in relationship, and he he's way too worried about where the money is right now or about the money at all. Just live your life. Do your thing, but but try to reengage the family and try to be dad. I mean, not not like dad to a five year old, but dad to an adult Yeah. Child and adult grandchildren, and let

the relationship breathe a little bit. Yeah. You know, the one the one thing I would say about trying to put some of those relationships back together, is you gotta lower your bar of expectations for the other people involved. If it's important to you, do it. Hey. They don't they don't call me. Then continue to call them. Sounds like you're retired. Like, if you got the time, what is the, like, what is the big deal that they like, it's a there's a butthurt thing in there that goes, I insist that they dial me. But, like, if you want to talk to them, then call them. And that's and that's kinda fine. And so I just, if you gotta you gotta get away from some of these these distinctions that you're trying to make. May maybe you're carrying the time load and the remind remembering load and whatever.

If it's righteous, then do it and stop complaining that they're not doing it. Zacula says, I will assume that you have put your decision in writing and your lawyer is aware of it. Your daughter should be informed in the context of advanced planning. Who will be the executor of your will, what kind of funeral memorial you intend to have, and where you have arranged to be buried, and how you'll be the disposing of your assets. Hey, man. I would not I would not tell my daughter that she's the one who gets to plan my end of life celebration at the same time I tell her I'm cutting out. Yeah. You gotta find someone at the local legion hall or something. Yeah. I'd let the lawyer do all this. I'm sure you've got friends everywhere.

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a friendly guy. If you are concerned that it will degenerate into an unpleasant conversation, ask your attorney to serve as a buffer and do it for you. I guarantee that word will reach your grandchildren like wildfire. Why? Because your lawyer's a gossip? Like, I don't I don't understand. Because if they're all hanging on on grandpa's land as their retirement account, I bet mom's gonna call the grandchildren real quick and be like, by the way, you get nothing. Oh, yeah. I've made terrible life choices, but I think I'll turn it around now. Yeah.

Okay. You want one more? Here's the last one. Dear life from the path. That was awful. Thank you. I just come up with that right now on the on the slide. I hated that so much. Dear life from the path. I recently met a man who, even though he asked me to sit down and have a coffee with him, then said he isn't marriage or dating minded. I decided to avoid him, and I'm trying to rid my thoughts of him, but it's difficult because I feel drawn to him. Wow. The last time I saw him, I sat down with him. It's Count Dracula.

And he asked to hold my hand. I understand that in dating, we may find out that we are not going to get married, but we haven't even dated yet. I suppose I appreciate that he's admitting he already knows he doesn't like me enough to marry me, but why ask to hold my hand then? Why ask me to sit down for coffee? It's hard to meet men where I live. How old is she? 54.

We're almost there. And it's been a long time since I was in a serious relationship. To meet someone who seems like a good catch and then be told this is up to be told this is upsetting. Is he playing hard to get? Listen to me. If you have any thoughts of this man being a good catch before you even sat down for coffee the one time, you are out of your mind. All of this screams,

you need help and are out of your mind. Find someone to confide in that can tell you that this is insane. That you're like, I'm drawn to this man. I've never had coffee with him before, but I found out that he doesn't wanna date me and he's not marriage minded, but he wants to hold my hand, and I just missed the touch of a man's hand. Like, come on. It's been a long time since it's been a relationship. You're 55. You are 55 years old. Rhonda, listen to me. Listen to me right now. You go find some lady friends Yeah. And you help them you let them speak into your life. Good lady friends. Something weird. Something weird. Find married ladies to speak into your life and recognize that you're crazy. Here's here's the thing. I need

this is this is for all the ladies out there. I want you to remember I hate that. That you need to stop thinking that the men are like the ladies. Yeah. They're not playing hard. When the man goes,

hey. I'm not looking for a serious relationship. He means he's not looking for a serious relationship. But he wants to touch you. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Here's I want all of the perks of that with none of the commitment. He's he's found a subtle and soft way to say, I'm a skis. And I want you to be open minded to engage with my skis y behavior. He's been very open about that. It is a it is a woman's there's something very beautiful about a woman's hopefulness and a belief that a lady might do something similar. And they're like, oh, I've seen ladies behave this way. That is not this man. That is not most men in general. They're just they're pretty straightforward. This is why you find them both offensive and funny, is some of the straightforward things that men do. And so when the man tells you, this is not intrigue. This is not like, oh, I think I can change him. Oh, he's been hurt before, and maybe he's saying this because he's cautious. It's not any of those things. He's mysterious. No. He's a skis, and he told you he was a skis. And he wants to touch your hand and hold you because he's trying to make his way into his skis y behavior. And so He wants your Snapchat. Yeah. He just wants to hold a he wants to hold some phalanges while he's drinking some coffee. Grossest thing I've ever heard you say. You you can buy phalanges. He's He's you. You can buy phalanges. I hate that so much. Please please make that the the name of the episode.

Dunes. He has done you the greatest service he could ever do by showing his cards immediately and letting you know, run away from me. Yep. Alright. Well, hold on. Sickle, anything we missed? You I agree.

That was a good one for all the ladies out there. This is what I'm talking about. Why did I why did I hate it more the second time? I'm I'm upgrading the sickle to junior producer. He's got all the traits of a man who could run this program well. That is assuming that this program is in fact running. Okay. To be fair, though, it takes at least eleven minutes for Ben to answer a question. The sickle gets through the answer in approximately eleven seconds. I we could work on expanding more. Things that nobody cares about. You the amalgamation between the two of you is the perfect host. You could've used one sentence, and you'd use 15.

Next time, I'm with some semi colonies. Ben, that was a really long, gloviated answer. Have you just tried saying, yep. Okay. Next time, I'm gonna do playing the part of Ben. Ben is the sickle. I'm gonna do it in the next show. We're gonna get out of here after fifteen minutes. I agree. Secular says, I wish that when he asked for your hand, but not in marriage, you had asked him if he intended to read your palm. I agree that he's sending you

what? I have no comment. I agree that he's sending you mixed messages. However, only one person can answer your legitimate questions, and that person is him. He is not sending mixed messages. He has sent the literal most straightforward message he could possibly say. I love it. He is saying in tandem, I do not wanna date or marry you, but I'd really like to hold your hand and see where that goes. There is no clearer message that he could send.

Yeah. You are out of your mind. This is the problem with having only women as counsel is because you both are now on the train that he's some kind of mysterious Chivago. But This is not. He's not. He's a rubbed off moron. They're not dateable. Did he mean, like, but not dateable yet? Is there a set of criteria that he could reach to be dateable? I could look in his eyes, and I could tell he wanted more. Yeah. He wanted to hold your hand more. Yeah. That's it. He don't wanna date you. He said so. He's not an opportunity. He's a mistake. I could buy phalanges, but nothing else. Just like this program. Thanks for listening to live for the path. We appreciate you hanging out with us, this week. If you have any feedback on the show or you want to encourage Mike or you just wanna send us your favorite emoji, I like the boat. That's five one five. I like those business fish. Do you guys ever use those guys? I love I've never met a person who used business fish except for you. I love I love business fish. Just an unnecessary

fish in a in a gentleman's suit with a thumbs up at something I've done or like cooking sushi. Huzzah. They cook A bit of fish. Cooking sushi? Yeah. That's gross. A fish making sushi? Yeah. That's the kind of choices he makes. That's disgusting. Disgusting. My brain's like this is disgusting. There's one for every life situation. It's so good. Okay. Actually, if you wanna use the Life and Path complaint line to send the emoji that the rest of your family told you to stop using, that's what I want. Oh, yeah. We'd love that. Yeah. (515) 517-0085. Call or text. We'd love to hear from you. Big thanks to,

Will the sickle for being here on the program. Thanks for her stopping in, Will. He thought the thumbs up was good. No problem. This radio, the the translation of the thumbs up has to have a verbal acknowledgement. Hey. A quick sidebar. I tried to describe the thumbs up as the hillbilly high five. Do you guys feel like that that's legit? We should end the show now. We may see you next week. Good form may prevail, and the show gets canceled by the unknown people who regulate it. In the meantime, be faithful to the means. God will handle the ends. You've been listening to live from the past.