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Mike is likely doing something inappropriate, saying something Yeah. Should not have. Probably true. Okay. Hey, man. Let's see. Think I need to be more careful about the graphic tees that I wear. Oh. Like, I've always just bought them when they fit. Like, not there really hasn't been, like, a whole, like, application process Yeah. Yeah. To whether or not I'll wear a shirt because I like I like the thing on it. Yeah. It's but it's become apparent to me very recently that people really care what's on your shirt, and they think it's an invitation to talk to you about the thing. Yeah. And, like, I've got some shirts that are like, oh, that's kinda funny, or, that's kinda cool. He's nerdy and likes that. I'm wearing a NASA shirt right now. Yeah. People talk to me about space today, and I did not mean to invite any conversations about space. One person had a whole conversation with me about how they used to put NASA stickers on street signs and how it's still pretty cool because there's that one random railroad crossing sign that they put a NASA sticker on, like, eight years ago, and they just haven't taken that sticker down. Oh. It's been, like, eight years, and that was the most entertaining thing that's happened to them. You've never you've never looked at a shirt and go, I want this, and I want people to talk to me about it? I mean, yes.

I have. Like, I have a shirt that says strong and pretty, and it's a stupid shirt. It's from, like, a it's literally from, it's a strong man. Like, there's a strong man that he's a really cool dude, and he that's his brand is strong and pretty. And I think it's funny because I don't think I'm pretty, and I'm not strong. And so it's like, blah blah blah. And I, like, have incredible Hulk shirts, and I love that comic book character. Yeah. But, like, this one, I just threw on. I didn't buy this shirt. My wife bought it for me for for my birthday, and I think that was also because she found it at the Burlington, and it it fit me. Yeah. Yeah. Generally the extent of it. When when you get to the, big and tall section, it the the shirts get, like the quality goes down quickly. I mean, they gotta put a lot more material in those shirts to keep the cost down. I people. I mean, there's always say dumb things. I'm like That's true. Can you say anything, like, normal, like NASA or something? But They have them. I'm wearing one. That's good. That's good. Because this absolutely is a big and tall shirt. I can promise you that. Okay. Alright. Good. Well, if you have any shirt regrets, like oh, okay. No joke. If you've ever purchased a shirt and you thought this is a great idea, and then once you got it, wore it a few times, you're like, I never should have bought this. Let us know on the live from the Path Complaint line. (515) 517-0085. Call or text, and extra points if you give me a picture. Like Man. Send me the hot pic of this shirt preferably with you in it. You could expect a text. I I really I really miss my grade school. God loves me. I'm Thumb buddy special. I have a big thumb thumbprint with a face on it. Did you pick that? I did. I thought it was great, and and no one else did, but I thought it was wonderful. I'd more My parents let me buy and wear a shirt that said I beat anorexia when I was in high school. I was a three hundred and fifty pound 16 year old Uh-huh. That wore a shirt that said I beat anorexia, and it I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I was like, well, because I'm fat. And people will be like, oh, of course you did. And I'm like, this is a conversation starter if I've ever seen one. I can't believe my parents were like, yeah. That seems right. Yeah.

You're wear that school soon. Go ahead. They'll love you. Enjoy your education. Alright. I gotta let go further. Hit us up on the Bob Eisenhower Life and Beth complaint line (515) 517-0085. And just before we move this is the time to bail. If you don't you've got this is what you heard from the show, and you're like, oh, it has to get better. I cannot promise that. No. And so I warned you, now is the time if you wanna bail from the program. Nobody's left. Now if you're going to stay, we actually have a pretty good show for you tonight. So Ethan Huffy is in studio, and, I know Ethan, and, I was super interested. He went on a mission trip to Peru, and it just sounded cool. And so I thought we'd have him in here. He's gonna have a chance to kinda tell you what that what the mission trip was about, how he got into some sort of he he a bet.

Oh. He was he like, I don't know. Like, most mission trips don't resolve in in some sort of I just asked quite quite gambling, but, like, it's a bit an enticement for erratic behavior. I was gonna say, did you get into some kind of Peruvian gambling ring? Not not quite a gambling ring, but Good. Okay. He's been actually, he's been using dodgy words like it might be a Peruvian gambling ring. Oh. And so just lit when he listen. Boo. Listen to me. See. What should I do? When he tells the story Yeah. Just listen for places of which it might mean proving a campaign. Oh, I've I've been involved in a few. Yeah. So I'll I'll recognize the signs. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, just he's he's gonna tell the story on one level, and then just I want you to be open to what might be. I'll know the subtext. I'll understand. Yep. We're good. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, we're gonna Ethan's gonna catch up with us and tell us about that, the experience. Things things, you know, oftentimes when we when we do we do, like, share weeks at at our our church, and the point is to, like, after you go through two or three books of the or chapters in the bible, like, what do you not wanna leave behind? You didn't just have an experience and didn't just hear a bunch of stuff, like, sharing what you what you don't wanna leave you wanna take with you, basically. Right. And so that's part of the reason, you know, we talked to to Aidan here a few shows ago, and I think same thing with Ethan is that, like, when you have experiences like that, there are moments for sure, and then there's some things that, like, don't I wanna have to say, hey. It changed me forever, but there are things where you're like, I I I wanna take that with me. And so, anyway, I'm excited to hear, Ethan's Ethan's story and this this gambling thing that we've told you. We'll figure it pretty awesome. We're gonna suss this out. Also, we have we're gonna play around a secular versus Solomon. Yes. Now Oh. We're in a real pickle It's been forever. Because Mike wasn't able to make it tonight, and so he he's usually our stock solid scorekeeper. Yeah. Like, totally trustworthy, unbiased, can be totally relied on to give a quality score. And so, Emma, I think Emma Foust is in, and I think you're gonna be keeping score. Okay. I can do that. Assess points. You you understand how Mike does it until Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's what's your Venmo? Probably a probably a really good thing that you had her do that because I was already figuring out a way to set up Peruvian gambling ring as we were talking about the point system. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna own up to that right now and say that that was a that was a wise choice. Yeah. I diverted it from you.

Okay. So we'll play secular versus Solomon. If you're not familiar, we're gonna give you, a bit of wisdom, a proverb. And here's the thing, oftentimes I hear people saying, oh, here's my wisdom, and it's something Ben Franklin said. I'm like, okay. I mean, it's not that Ben Franklin can't have wisdom, but, like, I do need you to like, when you say things like, god helps those who help themselves, it's not a scriptural thing. And so we need to make sure that when you're saying stuff, you didn't pick it up from a desk calendar or something. And so I'm gonna give you a bit of wisdom that's either from the scriptures or it is a secular bit of wisdom. And you need to tell me whether it is, secular or Solomon. Solomon is the option if it's a bible bit of wisdom, even if it didn't come from necessarily Solomon. And if it's secular, we gotta root them out. We gotta see where this wisdom's coming from. And so I want the country of origin. We're writing them down. I'm taking names and proverbs, and we're gonna go have some conversations with people. Got it. K? And then we'll provide the points. Also, we're gonna give some advice on deer live from the path, and I don't know, Buba, have you perused these yet today? I've perused a couple. I I appreciate that you used a word that might have Peru in it as well. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got a theme. I've I've looked it it appears as though people are having relationship problems as always, and it's relationship issues that they're having, where the they're in the relationship. They're trying not to be in a relationship. Yeah. Or they're privy to a relationship that they wish they weren't around. Okay. And so we're gonna have, we're gonna have a couple different things that we're gonna need to talk through, and people need our help. I think to the experts. Yeah. Are the are they being?

I don't know if I would go as far as to say, but they are certainly being reserved. Okay. That makes sense to me. That's something I love preserves, like apricots and stuff. Yeah. Okay. That's true. Alright. I'm gonna get a shirt that shows the difference between jam, jelly, and preserves. That that I would not wear. Okay. Alright. Let's here here's what I know. I know some of you are listening, and you're like, yeah, blah blah blah. I hate your program. I wanna hear from Ethan. So let's do that. Let me give you a chance. You can listen, and then you can't bail because he's gonna stay. He's gonna do the secular versus Solomon, and he's gonna give advice. And so you you do have to listen to the whole program, but I hear what you're saying. Move on with it, friends. That's what we're gonna do. So let's let's talk to Ethan. So let me let me get you a good a good look at him so that you can you can know what he is in case you're taking him in on the video. So he's talking to himself in the screen. He's like, hello, fella. Hello, Ethan. So Ethan, tell me a little bit about, like, how did you end up on this trip to Peru?

So basically, this summer, my mom or it was, like, end of school year. My mom asked me or she kinda she didn't really ask me. She kinda told me what was going on with her. Okay. And I was like, okay. And I didn't really know what to expect, but I'm glad I went and it was really cool. What was what's the premise of of this trip? Like, what's going on in Peru that you are helping out with? So the pastor of Grace Church does or he used to do like every other year or somewhat like that, and he goes to Peru and takes a group of people and they go hike the mountains Yep. And go into the villages like way far that are secluded from a lot of other people. Yep. And get hands out Bibles, tells about the gospel and stuff like that, and,

just tries to talk to people and gives a sermon usually at everyone and stuff like that. So it's it was really cool to go, yeah. Nice. So I wanna, I just wanna know, did your mom go on this trip too? Yeah. So we shouldn't just She's send you good luck, son. Boot camp. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's, so are there I know, maybe I don't think about this very often, about the places in the world where, like, scripture is so accessible to me in a million different ways, and there are people who don't have a a bible that they can reference. Now, is there like,

I don't know, how how big are the villages? 20 people? 200 people? I'd say probably probably a hundred, two hundred people. Okay. I would guess. I don't know. They they some of them are a little bigger and some of them are a little smaller. It kinda depends. True. Yep. Do you have a oh, go ahead, boo boo. No. I was just So they can they can they can read? Yeah. They can they it's actually when I got there, it was a little like, the villages are a lot more civilized than I would than I had originally expected. Like, I was expecting, like, like tree houses and, stuff Yeah. Right. Not tree houses, but like No. I know. Know what you're saying. Like, like, homemade built houses, but it was they had, actual structures, and the government, like, came in and did a little work some and so they had, actual bathrooms and stuff like that, and most of them had running water and electricity too. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So so they're not it's not completely, off the grid type of situation. Yeah. Were they familiar how with with Christianity and Bibles up to this point, you're like, supplementation to that, or is it brand new to some of them? It kind of depended, like,

some of the villages we went to, they had like a church in the village and stuff, but some of them they didn't really, and they just had like, like we just set up a, usually every night when we went there, we would set up a screen Yep. And play a video in their native language, and they would, to watch, and then we would go after at night and talk to them Yep. And sing some songs and stuff, and yeah. So it was kinda, it kinda depended on the village, guess, but yeah. Interesting, did you have, like what were the responses, to the video? They

Well, I don't speak the language, but It sounded like they hated it. They were very specific. Some were furious. Yeah. They were interested, but they I think it would have been like, I think they didn't get as many people as we were expecting because,

like, I don't know, like, like ten years ago, people would have been, I think, more intrigued, I guess. Yep. Was it was it the the Jesus film? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Yeah. You've seen this Peruvian propaganda film? They go everywhere. They they have they have it in so many languages. We we did a show of one in No kidding. In Africa. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have you seen it in English? Has anybody who do, like, taken this thing in? Taking it as a native film. Yeah. It it's like, you know, a seventies Jesus movie. You you know, but but but then they just keep putting different languages. Like, just translated it in more languages? Wait. Do did you see this was it like like a a a bad, Japanese film where, like, the guy's mouth was moving but the different Oh, boy. Oh, that's fantastic. I hear people actually walk out in Africa. They're like, no. We we did the we did the bad lip reading, Jesus style. Yeah. Okay. Alright. So wait. Was Dan, have you you've done this recently, like, when you were in Zimbabwe? Like, four years ago, probably. One the guys is like, we gotta do a Jesus film. I'm like, oh, we don't wanna do a Jesus film. No. We gotta do it. Because, you know, he read an article every day. Everybody loves it. And, yeah, it was like people would they were we had to quit. We had to stop it early because people were just like know? Interesting. And this isn't a remote village as well, but they were more than impressed. But but it depends on you know, everybody everyone's different. Well, I I mean, and it sounds like

again, as as the cultures change or they get introduced to other things, like, there's no reason to believe that ten years ago, it wasn't oh, yeah. Was helpful. It's been great great. A a great thing. I mean, great tool. It really has been. But Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Okay. What's what type of what type of reaction, like so you showed the the video, and then were there other when you said you were singing songs in parts of the gatherings, like, were people kind of engaging and talking to the was there a local pastor or anything there? There, so the people we went with, we first went, or we flew into Lima at first, which is like the biggest, like a really big city. Yep. And we had to take an eight hour bus ride to another city, which is called Horas. Yep. It's spelled with a h, but, and there was some missionaries.

So there was a missionary there from, her name's Rachel, and she lives in, lived used to live in Ohio, and she moved to Peru a while back and then married a guy named Adi. And they, they have two kids there and they, run like an organization where they do like missions and treks and stuff in the mountains. So pastor Phil knows them. And so that's kind of how he's been doing a lot of his checks. And then another group that that then go with is like AWE, I think it's called,

and they, or AWI. Mhmm. But they go to, they're the ones who actually translated the Bible into the Quechuan language, and so they do a lot of big things around there in Peru, and so they kind of had the Jesus film and everything, and so we would go so that it was like a big group of, like, probably there was probably 10 of them plus our group. Yep. And so we would go to the villages and they would hike with us and stuff and

yeah. So when it comes to the it it sounds like you were meeting up with some missionaries that lived Yeah. In Peru and are from there, you know Yeah. Know the language, things like that. What kind of things were they asking from the volunteers? Like, what were they wanting you guys to help them get involved in when it came to the actual hikes and being in the villages and doing that kind of stuff? Yeah. How were you guys getting specifically involved there? We we would like like, they were so people were surprised to see us, obviously. Mhmm. But because they haven't seen, like, white people, I guess. It was the toenie, it was toenie skin. They called us gringos, which and so they were actually one time, or multiple times, they were taking pictures of us as we were walking the trail, they're, like, photographing the

tourists. Yeah. So Oh, yeah. Kids come up and feel your skin to see, like No. But Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, they they look different. They gotta feel different. That happened to you, Dan? Oh, all the time. Every time we go. Albino Dan. But it did happen to me and the Dominican with my hair. Oh, really? The kids really liked my hair. Oh, I suppose you you're the only blonde headed person around there. Yeah. Yeah. The kids in Madagascar would go crazy for for my wife's just hair and the fact that she was super fair skinned, and then people would, like, yell at her on the streets because she was so white. Like, were just like, hey, white lady. I mean, it's just curiosity. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But anyways, we were there to like we passed out bibles, obviously, and then like, we help we sing songs and Did you take like a solo? No. We we so we had this like, this song called I Victoria that we would sing. It was like, I Victoria.

It was like, I don't know. It means like, I don't even remember, there's victory, there is victory, and then it's like in the blood of Jesus Christ, but it's like all in Spanish. Yep. And then there was another song, we sang like Amazing Grace, and then the Spanish speakers, which we had two other missionaries, or like a missionary and his daughter were there with with our trek. Yep. They they live in Lima, but they they we needed two more people, so they decided to come with us. Yep. And so that was good too. They spoke Spanish, so they could sing the Spanish parts of the song, but Nice. Gotcha. Did you did you had you taken Spanish before you went to this thing? I I thought I was I thought I was decent at Spanish, but when you get there and you're, like, in the language, you realize you don't know them much. Especially in the mountains, and it's a different dialect even than the city. So Emma, did you have that I can't In the Dominican Republic? Yeah. I could, like, I could get along with what I knew Yeah. Generally. If the person I was talking to knew some English. But there was one girl who I talked to a lot, and she didn't know any English, really, like she knew a few words and I knew probably about as much Spanish as I knew, and so we just use Google translate and typed on our phones. Oh, nice. Okay.

I could I could kind of understand what's like, I knew words and stuff and phrases, but like, it's like hard to communicate because I I just forget stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're right. Well, they talk so fast. Yeah. You know, and we do too. Mean, but Yeah. Right. Yeah. Was just saying we would do the same. I don't know what you're saying. What kind of things were were most surprising to you about the culture, about the experience that you had, about, like, the the the trip that you took specifically, like, anything that that you were just flat out not expecting that just shook you? Well, obviously, the I was expecting it to be a lot more, like, not as civilized. Mhmm. Which Right. Yep. Like they were way up in the mountains, but most of them had roads too that you could drive to the villages. But we hiked most of them because we like stopped on the way and stuff. Did you carry the Bibles with you? No. So we had a truck that like carried all our luggage and stuff that was nice. Oh, I was really hoping it was a donkey. They did have donkeys, but they didn't carry all that would have been too many don they they used to have donkeys and multiple of them died, like fell off cliffs and died. Oh. So and there's roads now, so they just choose to use a truck. Oh, I would boy. That's surprising to me. I was led to believe donkeys are extremely sure footed and do not just careen off this Unless they're weighed down by bibles. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Hey. That's a sermon illustration no one uses.

Anyway, under the weight of the gospel, I fell off the cliff. Short footed donkeys is an awesome band name. Okay. Did have we did have two two donkeys with us and also two llamas, which the llamas didn't carry anything, but they were like, they got a lot of people's attention and, like, the kids loved them and everybody loved them. You brought attention don't llamas? Yeah. They they weren't beasts of burden. They were beasts of attraction. Show love. They were like in in training to be able to carry stuff in the future, but they were, like they they mainly brought them to, like, bring attention. Yeah. Show llamas. Yeah. Wow. I wouldn't that would have broken my expectations of, like, hey. We've got these llamas and donkeys, and they're very important. It's like, no. Those those llamas are literally just for show. Yeah. They are for people to go, why do have They were llamas. Some of them or one of them was pretty naughty too. So But The naughty llama? Like, hold on. It was just in what way? Well, like, one of them one of them was on a leash, and then the naughty one just, like, could go wherever it wanted. But Maybe they've chosen to leash the wrong one. Leash the naughty one. We're showing the naughty llama. That's not good. Was it was just, like, run around, and it it was funny. But yeah.

So you have a show llama that's specifically for show that is unruly and runs around Yeah. Which is exactly what I would want in a show llama if I'm being real honest about that. A gospel presentation. It sounds like that llama did exactly what it was supposed to do. Because, like, a llama that's running free, I'm much more attracted to be like, what's going on with that llama over there? It seems to be breaking their their expectations of it. Yeah. Great illustration, though. Don't be the dirty llama. That's right. He's unrepentant. Don't look at him. Dirty llama. That unrepentant llama. Oh, of course. He needs baptized again. Yeah. It's interesting as as I've as I've listened to people that go on these kind of trips and stuff like that, I'm always interested to hear, you know, what were your expectations as you go to this, and and what what was different than that? It sounds like, like you said, you were expecting them to be less civilized from the perspective of, like, not having actual houses, not having, you know, indoor plumbing, stuff like that. It was also cool. Like, everyone was so, like like, willing to get like, they were willing to get stuff, and they were so eager to, like, get a bible of their own and something like that, like, stuff that we just take for granted here. Yeah. It's like, yeah. I always that one hits me, I think every so often is I think how much, if I didn't have it at my disposal, how much would I, would I cherish? Would you

hold onto it and be like, I'd like, protect it? Not because it's it's God himself, right? But but like, it just contains the words of life that like, I so passively be like, well, I might read that today, or I might scroll through it, or I might get it up on any particular medium. Like, it's, think to my detriment that is we tried to solve good problems by making it so accessible, But I think I've also then allowed it to interact with it too passively. And there's something, I don't know, maybe there's a privilege in going, well, like, I just want to be like them where they want the like, obviously the rest of their lives are often more difficult than mine in those ways. And so that's, it's shallow a little, but like the,

I don't wanna say reverence, I wanna say how important it is and what it means to them. I think I miss sometimes. Maybe we put a false guilt on people when we look at scripture that talks about panting, what's the Psalm, My Soul Pants For You. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's about with the word of God and stuff, that it's like sweet as honey and stuff. It's so common to us, but you think about it, to them or the people this was written to originally, I mean they didn't just have 17 Bibles in their house. So it really was like, man, I got an opportunity right now to engage the word of God, how often does that happen? So it really was like something to look forward to. Yep. And yeah, we're like, yeah, yeah, didn't the deuce do that last night? I don't know. Right. I can get on my phone anytime I want, so why do it? Do remember,

I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I remember there was like, within the last ten years, there was an extreme amount of stress in my life, and like, probably things going on in other people's lives around me that made me nervous and anxious and stuff. And I remember thinking, like, I just want to hear the words of Jesus. And, like, I probably read my bible, you know, I I love and follow Jesus, but, like, probably mostly academically. I'm collecting information. I'm understanding it, thinking through it. But there was just something where at the whole I had a I had a bible accessible to me, and I thought, I just, I wanna read the words of Jesus and it didn't even matter what the words were. Like, Jesus was gonna speak and I wanted to hear it. And that's probably the closest in my current circumstances at which it felt like I just there was something so powerful about the word of God, I was, and I knew I needed it, but it didn't even matter what it was. Sure, yeah. And so, I don't know, closest equivalent I have, I guess. No, I think that's fair. Okay. Yeah, but it was like really cool because a lot of like the older people, didn't speak

Spanish as well. Yep. Like they, they spoke Quechuan, which is like the native language in the mountains there. And they had never seen like a Quechuan Bible before, which is what these, the guys that we went with, they translated the whole thing and just recently got it finished. So it was really cool. Like they they're like, oh, it's in Quechuan. And they were like really surprised and really grateful for it. That's such an awesome deal. You guys, it's been a long time, but we talked to a lady, Mary Wasty, who was with doing Bible translation somewhere. Is it Papua New Guinea? Maybe, maybe. Sounds right. But like, I just remember thinking, a, that'll last forever. Like, impact of the accessibility of God's word and the people who take time and the faithfulness it takes to try to figure out. Like like, language, even Greek to English is not easy. Like, we're still talking about some of these translation issues, you know, and, like, what a what a just what a cool gift and a way to spend your your talents to open that up to someone where it feels like Jesus is not just something that someone else is saying to you from outside.

It it it's in your language, so it feels like something that's for you as opposed to coming to take you. Well, I think what a beautiful responsibility to have in that situation of, like, I get to represent the the living word of God into this language that is is different than what it was spoken in. And that accessibility that they're offering in and that closeness, like you said, is is super super cool to be able to be a part of. So that's that's just Yeah. Crazy. The main the the guy that, like, actually translated it most mostly all of it was him, and he was, like, with us on the track, and his name was Yapo, I think, but he it was really cool. Like, he was he's, like, probably 70, I think, and

he, like, was cool to see him, like take his work that he's been, that he's worked his whole life for and give it to people. Yeah. And then also like he was, he was talking to people and catching and stuff after, and it was, it was cool. That's pretty cool. Gosh. Yeah. Imagine that, like working on something like that for so long and then seeing it it become fruitful. Yeah. And, like, handing it to somebody whose eyes just light up at the fact that they're able to read Jesus's words for the first time in a language that they've known since they were a child. Yeah. Like, just that's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so how did you get into gambling in Peru? It it wasn't really gambling. Oh. It was more like That's the first sign. Hold on. That's the first sign. Did you feel what he said? I know if it was really gambling, if you will. Okay. You tell your part of the story. It was a it was basically a win win for me, but As gambling could be. Go ahead. So

so basically, we we were at this village just one night, and, like, there's no showers or anything there, obviously, but so there was this, like, this was a nicer village. They had, a concrete nice little runway of water that's, like, running from the glaciers. Oh, Running it runs straight through the village, and so like, I guess, I don't know what the people use it there for, but probably bathing and stuff too. Yeah. And get their water from there, but it was like really cold, so everyone was like, or a lot of people were standing in it and like taking their shoes off in our group, and, it was getting dark, so it was getting dark, so we decide, so, it was getting cold out because the sun, when the sun sets, it gets freezing. Like how cold are we talking? Like down to 40, probably, actually it was like 45, 50, probably. Okay. At night, it's freezing at night, but then when the sun's up, it's like so hot.

So it's pretty wide range of temperatures in Yeah, this it's there's like no atmosphere. Yep. So it's like, based on where the sun is, it's it's hot or cold. Gotcha. Anyway, it was getting dark, it it was kinda getting more cold, but somebody said one guy in a group, his name's Dave. Yeah. He's like, he's kinda he's kinda a wild guy. Uh-huh. But he That's consistent with Dave's. I find them to be instigators of trouble. That's true. Yeah. Okay. Continue. But he said he's like he was he he got in the water fully earlier, like, before this. Okay. And and he was like, I want you to get in with me, I'll give you $20. And then I was like, oh, it's freezing. And so he wanted me to get in fully, lay down in it. Yep. Which it's like, it's like three inches deep, but anyway. Lay down like flat. Like lay down, yeah, and get completely drenched. Oh, nice. Okay, wait, hold on real quick. Are these like Peruvian dollars? Like it's really $8.05 cents or something? No, solis are the Peruvian dollars, but he was giving me, he said $20 Straight, straight green bags. Yeah, and then

somebody else was next nearby and he's like, I'll give you another 10. Then And somebody else is like, I'll give you another 10, and somebody else is like, I'll give you 40 solis or something like that, and then that was, that's like about $50, and then I was like, all right, I'll take it for $50. Wait, would you have done it for 30? Probably. Dave and Company overpaid. But I'll take the 50. Okay. Okay. And then, so, so I was like, okay, and then we, me and him, me and Dave both laid down in it, and then we're like, three, two, one, go. We laid down, it's freezing, the water's like running over my hair, and then my mom was like yelling, but I rolled over. She know fifty

bones were at stake? Yeah, but, and then I rolled over and then it started pushing me down the river little bit because it was kind of slick on the bottom. Right. But it really, like the adrenaline stuff, it didn't feel that cold, honestly. Oh yeah. But, and then You can warm yourself with $50 I had to do it for like ten seconds or something, and then I got up, but I was like, it wasn't even cold, so we decided to run down to the, like down, down a ways, like a 100 feet was like a deep pool. Yeah. And we ran down and just for fun. Yeah. Because basically I already earned the $50 but just to prove it to them, I could You went all the way in. Yeah. How deep, how deep was it? It was probably about, it was like up to my shoulders almost, I think. Okay. Okay. Maybe a little deeper, but we got, we like dunked all the way in. Nice. Yeah. But then when I was drying off and changing, I found like two worms on me. So Yep. Sounds like a gamble. Yeah. That's that's called the Peruvian So It's called the Peruvian plunge. They only had to pay $50 to watch you make a fool of yourself and get worms on you. So It was worth you lost that gambling.

I do it again. I believe that's how Herod had the worms originally. That's right. Eight months later, ate him from the inside out. So, you know He did the Peruvian well. Herod Antipas is like, do not go in there. Right. For 50 era the great did that a long time ago, but it's $50. Wait. Do do I have the right Herod? Agrippa. Is it I don't remember which one. Who's, like, the the silver it's one of the a I think it's one of the a Herods. That's it. Okay. Antipas. That's what I thought it was Antipas.

Yeah. Yeah. Right? Alright. Oh. Alright. I don't know. Let's not do a quiz on heralds. Yeah. Let's go back. I'm usually pretty good, but I get too many heralds in my mind. Can't keep them straight. Yeah. They all blend in. Arcellus. Arcellus. Achaleaus, okay. The Herods. Okay. So, what what of the experiences, like, is there anything where you're like, I don't wanna, I wanna remember this particular part, or this has changed how I see things in relation to the gospel or to people or something like that. Is there anything where you're like, I wanna make sure I keep this with me after that trip? The

people the people there are really nice, obviously, but I would say just like be, being grateful for like what we have here compared to like, it's like a completely different culture there and like, or like their living situations and stuff. Yeah. Especially like in Lima, the big city. Yeah. A lot of like the, a lot of it's just like run down and just like, they're not living it in a good area. Right. And they're like all packed in there and it's looks pretty bad, but. It's like several million there, isn't there? There's, I think there's about 10 or 12,000,000. Yeah, so I was thinking it was pretty good chunk of people there. Yeah. Yeah, I would say I had the similar reaction to when I was in Ethiopia,

is is is one of the one of the values, I think, in in short term mission trips, the thing that keeps it from being, like, Jesus tourism Sure. Yeah. Is is, like, it it does actually take a little bit to shock you out of your surroundings. Yeah. Like, to recognize the things that we've gotten used to are things that much of the world is not used to. And I think I think, Ethan, I I like your I like your thoughts here because, like, I think there's two reactions. There's a there's a gratefulness to it, and then there's a recognition that, like, regardless of how grateful I can be for my current situation, I I do have to deal with the reality that there are other people who are living differently than that. Yep. And so and

it's not God, the Holy Spirit will have you do interact with that in different ways for different people, but it probably is not okay for me to be just like, oh, well, sucks to be you. Like, there's something about that that stirs or opens up things that you're just simply not aware of. And I think there is, there's something about experiencing that and seeing people. I like, I don't remember the exact guy, but I was talking to a guy in Ethiopia and like, it just it just occurred to me. I mean, this this is I'm here on a trip. This is this guy's everyday life. Like, this would be like someone coming up to me and I'm walking downtown between wherever I went for lunch and back to my office or something like that. And his his life is market his day to day life is markedly different than mine, but like the things that he cares about, the worries he has in the world, the the standard of living he has is is is diff is is just a lot of stuff is the same. Our lives are actually a lot more the same than they are different even with the circumstances around me. And so, like, I don't know. I think that was one of the things that I kept with me is to see not only those types of things going on around the world, but, like, it's even hap it's in your own community. Exactly. Just like that. Like, we were talking about running to a a dude. Well, by way but where we record the show, there's a corner when you come off the interstate where there's almost always somebody Yeah. Like, hanging out or just having a a sympathy for people, a grace for people that, like,

a lot of a lot of times when we assume, you know, people have made bad decisions to get into a spot, there's a lot of times where their circumstances didn't give them a lot of freedom to do differently. And it's very apparent in some of like other countries, it's less apparent here. It's easier to go, look, every way you ended up the way you are is because you made a series of decisions. And like some of that's true, but some of it's not, and people are limited by who they were raised by and the things that they were taught. Somebody was talking about a recent conversation

and there was some friend of the families and like, they were just going on and on about something. And I'm like, why are these people, like, why is this person just so wrong? And they were, they were wrong about something or other. And I thought, well, like, they don't really know any different. Like, their parents believe a thing and then their parents believed a thing and, you know, so it just, it created, there's a humility in it and then there is a sympathy in it and looking at people graciously and without bringing a bunch of presupposition to the table. And that was helpful to me. Yeah. I think that that anytime that I've done a missions trip, I think the the only one I ever I ever went on was a kid. I went to the Rosebud

Native American Reservation in South or South Dakota. And I went, and I did some work, and nothing changed. Yeah. Nothing changed for me. I was a total Jesus tourist. Yeah. And it was it was powerful there. And I was like like I did. I I met some of the kids that were in the the local, like, youth detention center and all this different stuff. And, like, in the moment, it meant everything to me. It was like, wow. Like, this is such a perspective change for me. Nothing changed for me when I went home. And I regret that sometimes, and and and I I I think about that every once in a while. Like, why didn't that change anything for me? Why did why didn't that that hit me? And it it was interesting because I went to The Philippines years later, as an adult for work, and I wasn't really shown much because I was whisked between my hotel and, and the place I was supposed to work almost every day, and that was about it. But, like, the things that I did see,

at first, I walked away with a hopelessness, interestingly enough, because, like, I saw so much poverty. And I saw I mean, I saw little, like, small towns of children living underneath the under overpasses that, like, they were just there all the time because their parents had had left them or whatever, and there were no orphanages for them to, like, stay in. They just lived underneath the road. Yeah. And

what happened at first was this hopelessness of, like, I could never make a difference in this. And, like, this is happening everywhere. Like, I'm I'm here for a day. I'm here for three weeks. That's it. I couldn't change anything. And as I've I've gotten older and have tried to kind of understand a little bit better, it's it's allowed me a rightsizing to understand God's power in that situation That's of recognizing that, like, what I saw as hopelessness was because I didn't have faithfulness in God. I didn't I didn't see a reason to be hopeful. Mhmm. As I've as I've grown and seen God move more and he's shown me more, like, I go, God, you are literally the only thing

that is big enough, is strong enough, is powerful enough to make a difference here. Mhmm. And you may make a difference by sending a 150 mes throughout the years over here. You may send your children here to to live here for extended periods of time to be your love and a neighbor to these children. But, like, you can work this out, and you're the only one who can. And and that rightsizing of that relationship is is one of the greatest things that I've taken from the ability to see that kind of thing because then it showed me in my neighborhood that I live in. Yeah. I was like, okay. How do I take that hopefulness and put it here? Yeah. And maybe them it's more likely that I'm the guy that shows up to that corner every day. Yeah. And I show up to that house once a week because I am here, and I'm not just there for for the day. Yeah. That's right. Dan, with with with the years that you've been doing work in Zimbabwe, would you consider yourself more hopeful today than when you started by what you've seen? Yeah. Absolutely. Honestly, that's why we keep going back to the same place is we build layers upon layers upon layers.

I have relationships that are years and years old now. And we're able to not meet a need that we think they have, but an actual need that they've told us like for real, like based on, I mean just this morning I got word from, we made a school in the orphanage that we run there. And I talked to the gal two weeks ago, said, hey give me some supplies you guys need.

We were there in July and we're talking about it. I said we can send the cash now. And so I got a list of things, thought okay that's really cool. It's just like there's improvement their spiritual lives and their educational experience and just in multiple areas. See growth. I'm

trying to choose my words carefully. It's not because they're looking more like us because that's not it. But their life is improving. Their churches are developing and growing and leadership's happening and good things are happening. Yep. And it wouldn't if I just went once. Mean, but the multiple groups come, so it Yes, right. Right, right, right. Emma, did would you say did you have a similar or a different takeaway when you were in the Dominican Republic? I feel like I went into it expecting poverty Yeah. Probably,

just from, like, hearing other people's mission trip experiences, hearing seeing pictures from your trip to Ethiopia. And I guess I I part of it was that I'm lazy, and I I had this mindset that I was like, I'm not gonna come home. My mom's gonna come home and be like, we need to get rid of half of our stuff right now. We live such unnecessary lives, and I was like against that. And I was like, I'm not gonna do that. I love my stuff. So that was probably part of it. I'll take your stuff. But

I also I guess that I was I I saw how they lived and saw, like, the joy that they have and, like, how normal it seems. Like, we we did, like, kids VBS stuff. And, like, I've been to VBS lots of times and, like, it seemed I have little siblings. Like, I know lots of little kids, and these are just still, little kids. And, like, we're playing the games and they want the juice. And we're, like, we're showing playing the songs and they just want the snacks. And so, like, I it definitely sticks with you, and I feel like it does, especially even if the few months afterwards, you're not, like,

selling half of your stuff and you getting an outhouse. Like, it it probably still ingrains itself in you Yeah. Over time, like, the knowledge that other how other people are living and the luck that you have and the sympathy you have for these people. Yeah. But then also, I think the respect that you have for their ability to Mhmm. To be have the sort of attitude you have in your current situation when you have stuff way better than they have it. Yeah. Or, like, even better attitudes the majority of the time. Yes. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. We have enough to sometimes create our own blindness. Oh, absolutely. For sure. Yeah. We think that that our excess is is for our joy, and it's the exact opposite a lot of times. Yeah. I remember, and and, Ethan, I think this was true for you too. I think it's a maybe a shared experience. I remember going to an orphanage in Ethiopia. Dan, And, maybe I'll be maybe you were out there doing it too, but, we played soccer Yeah. With the with the kids. Was a big that was a big thing in Peru, like, every village had a big had a soccer field. Yeah. And that's that's one thing I enjoyed doing with the kids was, cause like I couldn't talk to them super well, I could say some words, like playing soccer and they, the little kids, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Like they, they were Pretty good? Some of them were pretty good, yeah. Yeah,

but it was cool. All right, Ethan, you, I really appreciate you coming and sharing some of your experiences with us, very cool. If someone, I don't know, would you, is it a trip you would recommend for people doing? Yeah. I I loved it. It was really cool to see. I would definitely recommend it, but yeah. How was wait. Do you need to, like, do a lot of hike and prep? You feel like you did you walk to it, walk to it cold? I wouldn't say we really didn't do that much hiking, honestly. Okay. Because there was some older people with us and so it was easy for me, but yeah. You've if you've never hiked Potentially, it's Buva, frankly. If you've never hiked a day in your life, maybe you might need to do some hiking first. Never mind. I've never once looked at a hill and went, I'd like climb that. I'd like to be on top of that. I think you're different. I must conquer that landmass. We encourage our ladies

a few months ahead of time to start doing squats because, you know, like sometimes all you have is a hole in the cement and that's like Yeah. It's just not like home. It went differently than I thought. It really did. I was like, why is Dan calling out specifically that the ladies need to do squats? Well, it's the ladies I trust tell you. The ladies to do squats. Sense in the end, but in in the moment, I was like, I'm a give them the benefit of the doubt because There's a few seconds in there. Think there was there was a situation which Dan's like, the men that show up, they have the they have the the the leg strength to be able to do all the things they need to do. But we really we tell the ladies that they should really prepare because they're just not prepared. No. That's that's coming from the ladies. No. That makes sense. Please warn the ladies. Yeah. Yeah. My wife has has taken many trips to to Asia, to to Mexico, down to or over to Africa, Haiti, all these different things. Like, the one of the one of the prevailing things that have has happened is she's like, I I hate all of the situations in which I've had to, like, be over a bucket or over just a hole in the ground. And I'm like, oh, boy. Sorry, babe. That's rough times. Yeah. But if you if if you haven't gone on a missions trip before, I would definitely recommend it. Like, going to do it, see a different culture and different, like, people and how they live differently than we do here. And, like, it's really eye opening, I guess. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Thanks, man. Appreciate that. Alright. Here we go. If you're if you're ready, I want you to listen to the music as it lulls you into America's fastest growing Internet game show. And now for America's fastest growing game show.

Secular or Sullivan? Oh, yeah. Is it still growing? Yeah. You have wandered into America's fastest growing Internet game show, secular versus Solomon.

I feel like if a show is not on for years at a time, do can we really consider it growing? Yeah. Let's let's just say it's got a lot of room to move. Like, it's moving fast. Like, it doubled. America's stationary Internet game show. Here's what I'm a tell you. If you have a 100,000 people who love your game show and it moves to a 100 you move 10,000 up, you only move by 10%. But if two people love your game show and now four people love it, it's doubled. Exactly. We are America's fastest growing Internet game show. Five percentages.

I can't believe it's gone this long because no one asked me to justify my figures, but that's that's how I justify Okay. Fair enough. That's what it is. Alright. This is America's fastest growing Internet game show, Asterix. That's probably not true. Secular versus Solomon. So, again, premise of the game. I'm gonna give you a proverb, a bit of wisdom, and I need you to tell me where is this thing coming from. Is it a secular bit of wisdom of which would we should maybe be wary of? And I want the country of origin. Who's perpetuating this business? Or is it a biblical bit of wisdom? Most likely from Solomon, but could be other contributors to the Proverbs and potentially Ecclesiastes. Do do we have to speak in the accent of the country? Dan, you do.

You need to do that. I've already I've already lost. So Yeah. I I would yes. I would like to see you do that instead of Mike who would probably have been willing to step up to that challenge. Okay. Here we go. You guys ready? Yep. Alright. Number one, secular or Solomon, a mosquito thinks it can drink up a river. A mosquito thinks it can drink up a river. Secular or Solomon, damn. Well, that that is a secular, piece of advice or,

wisdom. And I I'd say Mississippi, but that's not a country, so I'm gonna have to go. We're gonna go to Canada because that's just right outside of Minnesota. So Canada. Canadian. Hey. Hey. I I love the intricacies of Dan's mind. It fascinates me to no way Secular Mississippi. Can't say that. Minnesota. That's close to Canada. Secular Canada. I feel like Trick you. I feel like Bill Murray from the first Ghostbusters movie where he shocks the people and shows them the shapes. That's trying to figure out Dan.

Dan Hudson from Ghostbusters. Just rift his way through that awful mind. Alright. Ethan Huffy, mosquito thinks it can drink up a river. Secular or Solomon? I don't know, honestly, but I'll go Solomon. Okay. Solomon. Emma. I'm gonna go secular Panama. Panamanians got optimistic mosquitoes. Buva.

Secular, Libya. Secular Libya. A mosquito thinks it can drink up a river. It is indeed secular Burundi. Oh. Burundi. I don't know. Nobody saw that coming. I didn't see Burundi coming. You you are welcome, fellas. Alright. Here we go. Secular or Solomon. This one's for Ethan. The righteous hates falsehood, but the wicked brings shame and disgrace. The righteous hates falsehood, but the wicked brings shame and disgrace. Secular or Solomon? There's no way it's not Solomon. Right?

He's already figured out the game show. It feels like a trace. Like a Jeopardy answer. Okay. Solomon? Yeah. Okay. Solomon. Solomon? Emma. I'll also go on Solomon. K. Solomon. Buba. We go Solomon Proverbs 13. Oh, he stuck his neck out unnecessarily. Damn. Yeah. We're gonna go Solomon, and then we're gonna go Proverbs twenty three twelve. Oh, twenty three twelve. I hope it's that. The righteous hates

falsehood, but the wicked brings shame and disgrace. The answer is indeed Solomon Proverbs thirteen five. Yes. Oh, so cool. Wait. Wait. Did you say 13? I did. I said 13. Oh, but did you give a verse? No. I didn't give a verse. Oh, you're a coward. I'm a proverbial coward. I wasn't expecting that. Oh, no. It's no. That's not a proverbial. Just straight coward. Alright. In real life, tangibly, your cowardice is smelt from here. Secular I put deodorant on. I'm sorry. Or Solomon, hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life. Oh. Hope deferred

makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life. Secular Solomon. Secular Moldova. Secular Moldova, which I think is a country from Netflix. Uh-uh. You're thinking Securovia? What am I thinking of? What's with the Christmas

the Christmas journalist who marries the king? What? Is it the Hallmark Channel? I love all the I love all the romance movies from the Netflix. I I know what talking about. I know what you're talking about. Okay. If you think of it, let me know. Genovia. Oh, I was kinda thinking Genovia. Genovia. Excuse me. What's that from? That's the Princess Diaries. The Princess Diaries. You love that one movie? Oh, Genovia. I do love that movie. Yeah. Both of them. I made that up. I don't think that was from the movie. It's very close. That that's the Oh, really? Yeah. Wave. Ethan will sing it later. He's he had a he practiced in the brew. I know you. Okay. Buba. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life. Solomon?

Proverbs six. Dan Hudson. That's an Italian proverb. No other coveted. Oh my god. Oh, I thought you were wondering if Italy was a countryster. It was from Mussolini's grandfather as he sat upon a toilet. Secular Mussolini's grandpapping. Alright. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life. Did Ethan answer? I'll go oh, sorry. I'll go. Secular is from Spain. Secular Spain. We are all over the map. Morovian.

Wait. Where is Morovia? Moldova. Moldova. Oh, where's that? Oh, like The Malt It's by Romania, I think. Is that the same thing as The Maldives? Maldives are I did European geography on the Soterra for, like, a week straight, and that's the one I remember. That's it. Okay. Alright. Here we go. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life. It is indeed Solomon. Italian. Proverbs 13. I'm sorry, Dan. Did you try to overwrite Solomon? He's in Italian. Was it Proverbs 13 again? Proverbs 13. Proverbs thirteen twelve. That's if you said Proverbs six, Emma, how many points is that deducted? Probably at least 50. 50. It seems squidgy, but at least 50 deduction. Wow. Okay.

Here we go. This starts with the Buva, secular or Solomon. He who has butter on his head should not stand in the sun. He who has butter on his head should not stand in the sun. Secular or Solomon? Secular Scottish. Did you wanna do did you wanna do the accent? No. Okay. Good. I suppose not. You can come if we come back around if you we can celebrate. It's secular Scottish. Okay. Buba, cousin was Scottish. Dan, he who has butter on his head should not stand in the sun. Well, this is an ancient proverb, so it predates America. So we're going to the native American lands in Kansas where the tribes would collect the maize

and create butter. And so it is the Corn butter. Butter. That's what I got. Is it what you got? So you're saying secular Kansas, but this is before America was The States. I don't recall the tribes. I'm actually It's the of Kansas. In Kansas, but I don't remember what tribes were down there. Okay. The Euphoria on Kansas. From yeah. Okay. Alright. I mean, good luck, Ethan. He who has butter on his head should not stand in the sun. We'll go secular from Ecuador.

Ecuadorians got a lot of wasted butter on the on the noggin, Emma. Secular Norway. Oh. Oh. Norwegians. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's hear it. He who has butter on his head should not stand in the sun. That is secular The Netherlands. Oh, I'm so close. The Netherlands. We're very close. Alright. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. I get it. Very close to the the nation of Kansas.

I can't believe it's not mace. I can't believe it's not Corn Book. Okay. Secular or Solomon, when the wine goes in, strange things come out. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Trying to put it on a game show here? Is that real? The when the wine goes in, strange things come out, secular or Solomon, Dan Hudson. Well, that that that is obviously Spanish. The Spaniards.

If that's the It seems the ibidico. That's the complaint line is 515, 517-0085. If you are of They drink the wine and things come out. Hashtag Spanish heritage. And you wanna comment on Dan's answer, you go ahead and use your complete line. Alright. Ethan. Secular from Sweden. The Swedish are known drunkards. There's a lot of strange things going drunkards. Okay. Emma.

Oh, the secular France. Wow. That's harsh. I can't believe you would say that about people. Yeah. Seems rude to the French. Yeah. The Swedes are used to this kind of thing. The French are a little bit go go ahead, Buba. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go secular Greek. Oh. Oh. I I like that. I like what you've done. It's the first time you said that to me at fifteen years on this show. I'm setting you up for failure. I know are. When the wine goes in, strange things come out. It is secular South Africa.

Oh, yeah. South Africa. You guys were in the wrong parts of the world. Wow. I mean, I was just north of it. By a whole continent. One of the taller ones. Dang it. Alright. Secular or Solomon. This one goes to Ethan. Poverty and disgrace come to him who ignores instruction, but whoever heeds reproof is honored.

Solomon? That didn't sound super confident. Say say it more confidence. Reproof is in there. Sorry. Solomon. I felt that in my bones, Emma. Oh, Solomon. Okay. Solomon. Booba. Solomon Proverbs 17. Oh, Dan. That is a Septuagint Latin Solomon

proverb. Dan, I don't mean to I mean, not in front of everybody, but the Septuagint was in Greek. Yeah. Of the Latin. Yeah. The Greek retranslation into Latin. When the wine goes in, things come out. Strange. Out comes the Septuagint. That's right. A drunk Greek translated the Vulgate

into Greek, and then a a a Latin man read the Septuagint and retranslated it back. Exactly. Does that mean vulture or eagle? I don't know. I don't know. It's all the same. Third. Okay. Poverty and disgrace come to him who ignores instruction, but whoever heeds reproof is honored. That is Solomon. Proverbs 13. Nah. Thirteen eighteen. And you're sucking 13. Hey. Did you just pull up Proverbs 13? Okay. What else do you need? I'm just gonna go all here. I don't wanna give away my secrets. But if you find that I've not prepared this game ahead of time and I have a small amount, I'm probably picking from a very narrow number of chapters in Proverbs.

I also tell you the wisdom doesn't really start until about five or six and stops around sixteen seventeen. Right. Okay. If you read your scriptures, you would know that, you heathens. Secular or Solomon? Me? You. Okay. You're starting, Ben. It goes to Give us an answer off the thing you're reading. Okay. I was gonna say it's not my I felt real guilty for a minute, like, I'm nervous. Oh, crap. It's my turn. Shoot. I missed myself the whole Samaritan. Read the question and the answer simultaneously. Okay. Secular Solomon, the man who marries a beautiful woman and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem. I've definitely heard this one before. China. How do Secular China. How do you spend your time?

What's into this program? It's a mistake. Alright. I'm be honest. Okay. First of all, hold on. What does this mean? The man who marries a beautiful woman and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem. Everybody wants peace. Oh, people are trying to bake off with it. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Easy grabbing corn. I'm with some of that cooking lady. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah. I'm I'm against how this is being spoken of in whatever country is bad. It's a bad country. Oh, no. Boova. Speak speak now that I said they're a bad country, whatever you say will be an indictment upon that country. Hashtag Bouva. I'm gonna go secular, and I'm gonna go this this predates America. And,

you know, the nation of the the The Pueblo were known for their beautiful ladies and for their corn on the roadside. No. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go secular, Chile. Okay. Chile.

Dan Hudson. I'm gonna go secular as well, and I'm just going straight to Republic Of Congo. Why is that a straight answer? It's right there. Just gonna go straight Just right there. Republic Of Congo. We're not gonna dance around this at all. Not even the full Democratic Republic Of Congo, just the Republic Of Congo. Hashtag hoes. They have beautiful women and wonderful women. And corn. Okay. Ethan Huffey. I'm gonna go secular from India. Secular India. Oh. Indian corn. Hey. There's safety in numbers. He chose a giant country. More likely that someone there said it. Smart. Probably did. Smart. Alright. The man who marries a beautiful woman and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem,

secular Ethiopia. Ethiopia. I was very close. Tell. Alright. Boova. Alright. Oh. More about ladies. Secular Solomon. Ew. The white white What a creepy way to say that. Here's what I'm a tell you. Oh. More about ladies. I I don't like the color Coming at you live. That people can't say the words No. Like the

People can. You can't. Okay. Oh. Hoover. Coming at you live. More about the ladies. Okay. I did have to hold I was at a on a work meeting, like, Friday. Oh, I'm terrified where this story's going. Hey, ladies. It between me and two women,

and they both got on the call, and I, like, had it halfway out my tongue to go, hello, ladies. And then something stopped me, like, don't do this. Something stopped Did you read the proverbs that day and decide you were going to be wise and prudent? Hello, ladies. It's a cultural problem. I should be able to say hello, ladies. It's like saying hello, gentlemen. You don't No. It's not a problem. It's not a cultural problem. Somebody ruined this for you problem with the way you creepily say things. I didn't Hello, ladies. I didn't I didn't quite say anything. Me, dear. I love you like a can of corn. So I changed it to, like, hello, you two. Hello, ladies. Have you recently been told about corn grown by the roadside? Because I'm thinking.

You two long haired humans, welcome to the meeting. Alright. Who? Just read the proverb. Hold on. Hold on. I do this for a living. The wisest of women, wisest of ladies builds her house, but folly with her own hands tears it down. Proverbs. Well, Solomon. Excuse me. Proverbs eight. Oh. Oh, Dan Hudson. Solomon

Proverbs chapter 13 verse 12. That's a safe bet. We already said 13 verse 12. Have we? I'll go Solomon. Solomon as well. Okay. Solomon, do you wanna venture a chapter? You don't have to. 14. Yeah. It's gonna be real close to 13. Ethan's playing the numbers game. He says, I think they're incrementally up. Emma. I'll also go Solomon. K. Did you wanna offer a chapter? You're Can you give me a hint and tell me which chapter is about the the wise lady? Wouldn't that that feels like cheating. Might be cheating. Hey. Four fourteen.

I'm gonna go proper 14. Just just throwing it out there. Okay. Just just to spitball in here. Alright. The wisest of ladies builds her house, but folly with her own hands tears it down. Secular, Proverbs fourteen one. Let's go. I was literally gonna say fourteen one. The amount of victory in this corner over here They're just winning. Is a shame to you. I'm really glad I did not involve myself in that Peruvian gambling circle. Okay. Dan Hudson. Yes. In a multitude of people is the glory of a king, but without people, a prince is ruined. What the heck does that mean? Hold

on. I'm gonna say it to you. Pastor Dan, in a multitude of people is the glory of a king, but without people, a prince is ruined. Yeah. Because he has nobody following him. The bot makes it sound like they're contradictory, but they're the exact same thing. They're saying the same thing twice. A prince isn't established. If you have a lot of people and you're the king, you're great. You're feeling great. Look at all these subjects I have. Right. If there aren't aren't any people, then you're just like, whatever. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Just the dude on the holy grail. Yeah. So, em is right, though. It is it is saying the same thing. The but is more like a comparative like, the the other end of a coin, the yang, if you will. It could be a semicolon.

It's not a sem no. It could be. The biblical translators is a semicolon. They don't do semicolons because it's the devil's it's the devil's punctuation. Okay. Devil's punctuation. It's a deceit. English teachers around the world right now are going, no. It's not. No. No. God is not the author of confusion. He does not endorse a semicolon. Dan Hudson, multitude of people is the glory of a king, but without people, a prince is ruined. I'm I'm envisioning Monty Python. Mhmm. Kobanex.

You're you're in the right alleyway, my friend. And with that, I'm going to Proverbs 14 and calling it a Solomon Okay. Fourteen five. Monty Python to Solomon makes total sense. Ethan Huffey? I'm gonna go secular from Scotland. Oh, Scottish secular. Dan, your confidence did not win Ethan over. He says, Solomon a, I think him off with Mighty Pythag. He says not in that hat, sir. Emma. I'm gonna go secular Wales. Secular way oh, you're keeping it in the same it's a British territory. I'm gonna go secular. K. And I'm gonna say India. Secular in he's he he did he pulled the huffy method.

I did. Because he said Scotland, and I said Scotland earlier. So I'm pulling India from him. Yeah. You did the what's the thing where they where the the girls switch parents? Parent? Oh, no. No. The parent trap. No. Freaky Friday is what you're thinking. No. No. No. Switch parents. Switch parents. Parent trap. Yeah. Yeah. I shouldn't have brought it up. If I should have cycled in my mind and go let that reference go, but I I committed to it. No. It's all good. I just committed to low hands. Yeah. And I thought low hand is in parent trap and low hand is in freaky Friday, I got confused. Yeah. I didn't put that together. She made a weird career choices to only switch with people in her movies. Probably not find ourselves in a place where we are talking about Lindsay Lohan's career choices on air. Okay. We're cutting edge. Right. The after hey. The years after things went real bad, let's talk about the decline of Lohan. The life from the path aftercast, we're gonna talk about the career of Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan. Oh, gosh. Okay. In a multitude of people is the glory of a king, but without people, a prince is ruined.

Solomon, Proverbs fourteen twenty eight. Oh. It's 23 verses off. Fourteen twenty eight. Alright. Rounding it out. Final question for the inventor of the Huffy Method, Ethan Huffy. Even the best cooking pot will not produce food. Even the best cooking pot will not produce food. Secular or Solomon? I'm gonna go Solomon.

Alright. He's in for Solomon. Emma? Secular Italy. Okay. Secular Italy. I'm gonna go secular, and I'm gonna say Mozambique. Oh, that's a good one. I can't even say that. Go ahead, Dan. I'm, I'm also going secular, and I I'm feeling Uganda. Feeling it. Hi, boy. Feeling Uganda. Yeah. Hashtag feeling Uganda. Yeah. If that that's not the name of this episode. I might be a little sad. Things to not not say in a crowded mixed company.

Secular Solomon, even the best cooking pot will not produce food. It is indeed secular from the Zulu tribe, which is South Africa. Woah. Oh. I was real close. Mozambique is next to South Africa.

It was it was super close. It was super close. You should you should be proud of yourselves. Is this it's Zimbabwe, Mozambique, or Solomon? Hey. You've just participated in America's fastest growing Internet game show, secular versus Solomon. I hope you did well. Emma, what were the final scores? I, surprisingly, dominated with roughly 500. Okay. Ethan was close behind four ninety. Oh, nice job. Dan really pulled it out the last second. He got, like, three three fifty. Wow. I like where this is going. Let me check my notes.

Booboo's in dead last. A negative 200. I don't even know how he I did feel like I got a lot of those right to be at a negative 200, but It was the accent. It was, yeah, it was how you said I kept using that Scottish accent for Mozambique. It was just so wrong. I felt I felt there was an arrogance to those proverbs chapter guesses. Don't you think? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, it's been your downfall. Why do I always lose that game? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Thanks for hanging out. We really do appreciate it here on live from the path. Hey. If you wanna catch past episodes of the show, either the full show or you wanna play secular versus Solomon, one, can go to the YouTube channel or live from thepath.org. Just do a search for secular, and it'll pull up the episodes and podcasts for secular versus Solomon. You can you too can play the game and see how well you know your proverbs. Maybe hit them up. Maybe if some of those seem surprising to you, just take a read through those proverbs. Figure out where your wisdom's coming from and so you can pick out whether it's from the lord or whether it's from Zulu

because you wanna be able to make the decision. You know what saying? Okay. Hey. Can you do that for any of the game shows? Oh, yeah. Can you type out any of the game shows for that? That's awesome. Yeah. Sure. You can. So if you you wanna hit up there's been two versions of Woke or Toke, which is where you gotta guess whether it is a liberal church name or a weed shop. Just do a search for Toke is probably the real the safe one. Yeah. Search that up, and you'll be able to find those. Voso used to play there's a three or four episodes of is this love, which is a Mhmm. A scenario, of which you have to decide, does someone actually, love the other person, or is it some sort of ruse? Is this love? Yeah. Yeah. That's what, originally played with Crystal Joy, author Crystal Joy Yeah. Who wrote kinda like a not romance novels, but, like, they had a lot of that kind of stuff in it. And we said, we'll see if she can pick out real world love scenarios. It's like a rom com on the page. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Hey. You've listening live for the bath. Thank you for hanging out with us. I can't remember. Did that tuck us up? We're about ready for some advice? I think so. How we doing here? I think we got the time for some, to give out some advice. Let's do it. Fantastic.

I was totally prepared for that. Yeah. Okay. In the meantime, while he's looking that up, remind you if you go to lifefromthepath.org, and I think it's called shop maybe or store, you can pick up some life from the path merchandise. And I I I I don't know if you bought merchandise within the last five or six years. I'm just telling you it's an upgraded upgraded selection out there. The shirts are nice. I got a I got a sweatshirt. It's pretty pretty nice. The war donkey coffee looks cool. I don't know what it tastes like. I people keep ordering it, and then no one wants to drink it because, like, the package looks cool. Dang it. Okay. I'll buy two. Okay. You And I'll I'll have a a sacrificial One to cook, one to look. You know? Ew. That's how you should do it. I think I think we've just determined just now that it's just the way thing it's you saying. Hashtag I said it. Like, I think other people saying things is fine. Yeah. But then when you say things, it's like, no. Hashtag hello, ladies. Get that war donkey. Don't hashtag that. No. Don't it's probably actually, you're right. Don't don't hashtag that. Nope. Okay. Alright. Let's give out some advice. Dear laugh at the path. When I came out of my introvert shell, I began trying to find a relationship.

I went on a few dating websites and met some great guys and some not so great guys. Oh. One of the latter had been giving me red flags since our first date. We clicked it first and shared many of the same interests and hobbies, but he wanted to move way too fast. Yeah. While our dates had always been in public places, he constantly wanted to get me alone, either my house or his. He seemed put off when I asked if another friend could come. Uh-huh. Then there came a time when my health was faltering, and our infrequent meetings became less important to me. I told him I was having health problems, but the next day, he invited me out for another date like I hadn't just told him. He either began to ignore what I was saying or I was noticing it more frequently. Because of this and other things, I quit responding to him. This has now spiraled out of control. He has contacted me on every social media app, on my phone, and by email. I am upset for a number of reasons, but I feel guilty ignoring him. My family and friends say I'm doing the right thing, that responding to any of his communication will give him the idea that I'm open to communicating again. I do not want to start talking to him again, but I still feel awful about him ignoring him completely. What should I do? Hold on. Let me let me see if I understand this situation correctly. I feel either I'm missing something or

this I don't think you are. This is relatively straightforward. Hey. I I went on some dating website, and I got a man who had a number of red flags. At the beginning. I saw it from the start, and I pursued this relationship. I bet we had so many things in going. Maybe the metaphor of red flag didn't hit this woman correctly, but, like Looks like it go away. You might put it Is it red, or is it like a maroon? Yeah. Change him. So yeah. Like, you just him. You just blew past the, you know, do not back up tire spikes present and just went on over it and go, I can't believe what's happening to me and why the situation is going poorly. Yeah. So that's surprising. Feel bad. Yeah. And then did did she give she's ignoring him, but did do we get a sense that she actually said, hey. I don't wanna date you anymore? No. It seems as though she's kinda just faded out.

And Don't you think he'd figure that out? I mean I I would say that most most gentlemen of an age don't figure that out. Wow. And they think, but what about if I say it again? Or what if I say, hey, in a different app? Mhmm. And then she'll be like, oh, I remember this guy on Facebook, and I blocked him and don't wanna talk to him. But now that he's sending me a Snapchat, maybe I'm more interested in seeing him. Yeah. Maybe if she saw a close-up picture of my ear, that would, really turn things around. Dan's not allowed to online date. Dan?

Doesn't Man, you should not be dating. The time Anyone but your wife. I sent her pictures of my ear all with an ear picture? That's horrifying on so many levels. I like to think of the technology that was available to Dan when he first started dating and his ear pictures. Hey. Someone get to Polaroid out. I

gotta take a picture. There's an one hour photo around here somewhere. Yeah. It's horrible. Walgreens? Hold on, babe. I will be right back. Let me develop this film, and you'll get three weird pictures of my ear. I I don't know. Emma, Ethan, is this what do you think about this lady? Yeah. I feel like her course of action seems pretty obvious. Just if if it would make your conscious feel better, make it pretty clear. Hey. You're weird, and I'm sick, so go away. Yeah. These two things combined. You're weird, I'm sick. Bye bye. Yeah. Ethan, would you be dissuaded by a woman who said that to you? Oh, what an odd place to put him into. I just wanna say, I didn't know what the segment was, and I thought boo boo was just saying his past experiences

for the first, like, five words. Bubba. And I was like, wait. Hold it down. Cheers. Live from the I've been dating online recently. Hey. I like that this fella keeps emailing me me, and I really wish I would have given him a fake email. What? He found that story believable coming from your situation. Five words in, though, he was like, this isn't booba. I appreciate that it was no more than five words. Yeah. What's okay. Okay. Let me let me say this. In in in the man's defense, not defense,

we ask a certain level of stubbornness from men. Right? Think of think of men who go, hold on with stick with me, boobah. Think of you send men to war as an example, and they are supposed to just wait on it. I'm wait I haven't said anything. I want you to take it in. Take a breath. Do you need some patchouli to calm down? Put it under your nostrils. Okay. You send them you send men out to do things in the world that have impossible odds, and they go out there under a belief that something will succeed. You also find this with very think of the I'm gonna make a broad generalization that I believe to be true. In general, if you were to separate men and women, more people, both men and ladies, would consider the ladies more good looking than men. Holistically, women are more good looking creatures Yes. Across the board. There are more fives and above than there are fives and below. But men, it

the teeter totter goes the other way. Most men are like average. You know I'm saying? Move on. Back me up. Most men are like average. Yeah. That's the concept of an average. Yeah. You are correct. But I don't but I don't feel like most ladies are average. I feel like No. The average is just more beautiful. I know, but there's no way to articulate that. Yes. There is. You've already done it. Okay. You did it on the first pass and then messed it up with the just most guys are average. Okay. Anyway, you know what I'm saying. You've seen a bell curve. So, anyway, so even then, like, it feels like impossible odds. Men are always trying to attain or achieve things that are don't seem likely within their bounds. It's we ask this of men societally. Okay? Yes. So the the downside of this is if you've created a belief that, like you see this as even, like, 40, 50 year old dudes trying to talk persistent. Yes. Or, like, we'll go we're, oh, yeah. I could still date a woman thirty years younger. I'm, no, sir. You you could not. Absolutely. And so What's your bank account look like? Anyway, it creates something about men. They become overconfident or they try to achieve they try to climb Mount Everest, and then you have to have that to achieve those types of things. But it also means they're a stubborn lot who don't catch on easily. And so I I I mean, this is true, I think, in this situation. I would also prescribe that this is true in most relationships. You have got to be explicit with fellas. Yes. Is in your best interest aggressive. Yes. You do not just, like, fade away. You go, sir, no. I will not be going out with you. You don't go, I've been feeling a little under the weather. He's gonna check on the next day to see if you'll date them. Yeah. Yeah. Like and so maybe you've maybe the lady has been more clear than what she's letting on, but I I'm just saying dudes need a little bit of a blunt force object sometimes. Some not at all. Just sees a green light. Yeah. He's like, yeah. I'm gonna keep trying. Yeah. She hasn't said no. You gotta shut her down, and you don't have to be you don't have to be rude to him just because you were unclear before, but just be clear. Yeah. No, sir. I I'm I'm going to recognize the no win scenario that that I believe that most women will see themselves in with that advice. Tell me. Because I I think that

the men that are persistent, to a fault, are also the ones who will get very emotionally damaged by a woman being straightforward and saying, no. I'm not interested in this. And then they become creepy, and it's just bad. I don't think that's inevitable. No. No. What I mean is from the perspective of I think that is that is I think there are plenty of women who would say that that is more likely their experience than a guy hearing a very stark, like, no, and then just being like, well, okay. Thank you. I really respect that, and I appreciate that you told me. I don't think he's gonna say that necessarily. Oh, in in any way. Yep. Yep. And so but to to also recognize your point, like, there's a really famous R and B song that the, the the lyric is if at first you don't succeed,

dust yourself off and try again. You can dust off and try again. Yeah. Yeah. Meaning, like, hey. I'm intentionally going to say no to you a few times, but don't give up. Like, it's the chase is fun, and I want you to keep pursuing me kind of thing. But, like, if I tell you no, that doesn't really always mean, like, it's never gonna be yes. And so, like, there's there's there's two sides to this, and people suck. And so, like, rough times. Yeah. I would I would say it is in your best interest, though. Like, just ignoring this man is not working similarly. And so a guy who's not gonna react properly to you not wanting to date him may do it either way, but I think he is I think both of you are served well by your clarity. Sure. I mean, sir. Yeah. I I don't think in fact, I don't think it's even any good for you just to try to you don't wanna be, like, ditching him all over the place and thinking that two days from now, he might contact you or whatever. Just you said it clearly, and frankly, you're building the stalking case. If you're gonna need something to show the police, you've got it written down. You told them no. Okay. Okay. Alright. Anybody else have a different advice than what I gave?

Yeah. I think I think she just needs to be direct and kindly say, I'm moving on. Yep. I'm with you. Okay. Alright. Secular says, you may be feeling guilty because you are ghosting him, which I believe is bad form. Bad form. Send him a okay. Hook. Send him a text or an email telling him you haven't responded to his attempts to communicate because you are not interested in in a relationship, and he must stop trying to contact you, period. If he persists after that, you may have picked up a stalker, and you should file a police report. Boy. Bad form. Bad bad form. Did anybody get okay. I'm glad you got that reference. I wasn't sure if anybody Bad form,

Peter. Dustin Hoffman was a fantastic hook. That was a great movie. Okay. The only one person that could've done it better was a young Lindsay Logan. Oh, she really fell, didn't she? Yeah. She could've done an excellent Captain Hooker. Kind of a more modern take. I I probably would actually pay to go see that movie just to see the ridiculousness that is. Okay. Yep. Dear Laugh at the Path. Yes. Our son is engaged to marry a young lady our family can't stand. No

matter what we are discussing, she turns the conversation to long, boring stories about her friend, her aunt, her cousin, etcetera. Nobody cares about these stories, and they are constant. Our two daughters and their husbands roll their eyes and limit their time with her. My husband leaves the room. Even my 95 year old mother who is partially deaf can't be in her company. Alright. She's gonna die soon. She has no time to waste with these stories. Our daughters think we should tell our son not to marry her as as it is ruining our close family. He doesn't seem to notice it. Seems to love her and will be hurt. Have you any suggestions? Okay, Ethan. I need you to fix this situation. How are gonna do it? I need you to recognize that was not about me. What do you think? She tells long boring stories, tearing the family apart.

Interesting. Make her tell more interesting stories. How are gonna what are you what were you just gonna tell her, hey, baby, you tell boring stories. Hey, Cindy. Those books where you fill in the blanks, you know, and the Oh, yeah. Adverbs, whatever. Adlibs? Madlibs. Adlibs. Yeah. Yeah. Adverbs? Is that what you said? You do an adverb or no. You know what? Describing the verb? I couldn't remember they were called adlibs, but Adverbs. Yeah. Yeah. How you how do you approach this, Don't you think she might be offended? Yeah. Get her a book of adjectives.

I don't know why you're asking me. Well, give her advice, Huffey. What if this was presented to you? They said they you're the only guy in the world who can respond. What do you say? I really don't know. Okay. Okay. Huffy's Huffy's bailing. Emma? Well, I feel like first off, you gotta get the

don't break the engagement off. That seems a little bit excessive. Uh-huh. Okay. So I feel like if I was the girl, either two things would be happening. Either I was just trying, like, to make conversation, and I wouldn't didn't come naturally to me. And so I start talking about people I know. Mhmm. Or I just don't have a very interesting life. Like, I don't do very many things. So I talk about my friends Yeah. And my aunt who does what to me seem like interesting things. Yeah. So either if I was the dude, I would talk to the girl and I'd be like, hey. Don't feel any pressure to make conversation. Well, we we like your company. We don't really like your stories. That's okay.

Or We like you. Your stories are terrible. Just shut up. Or I'll just take her out and do some more interesting stuff, so then you can all talk about that. Oh. Oh. What an inventive way to fix the problem. Let's go do skydiving and stuff. That way, you can tell better stories not about your aunt Christie. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I got there's probably a reality to that. Like, if people are telling long drawn they could she could actually just have no idea that these are terrible stories. Right. Or she's trying to impress these people and doesn't know how to do it. They clearly have a close family. She said, oh, I I like family too. Here's my family stories. And they're so caught up in themselves, they're not interested. They're selfish. Somebody shows up and is like, oh, I was getting my haircut the other day, and she's like, oh, my aunt Lucy has hair. Here's the deal. Don't invite these people to your wedding. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's how you solve that problem. That'll fix it. Emma says create good memories. Dan says, know what? Cut them off. They're out. You are no longer a part of our family. I don't like you not liking my stories. Yeah. I okay. So if you think of this converse so Emma proposed,

so, yeah, you you give her some more experiences or you say, hey. Don't feel like you have to don't feel like you have to fill in the gaps. Sure. Yeah. I I think that's awesome. They're gonna love you, and and we we are hearing a lot about your aunt, but, like, they're interested in you, but if you don't feel like you have anything to say, just don't feel the the burden to have to say something. Hey. What if you say that? And she's, like, taken aback. She's like, no. I just thought I was telling awesome stories about my cousin. Here's well, okay. Here's the other thing. Chance that she's this bad She could. And she loves it. Now here's the other thing to say. You are marrying this woman. This is a long term commitment. If you cannot have a conversation and go, listen. I need you to know these are not entertaining stories. Like, you about killed Nana. Here's the deal. I wonder if the son thinks they're not entertaining. That's what's that's what I wanna know. Obviously, I can't know that from the situation, but I'm really interested to know if the son also thinks her stories are boring and awful and too frequent, or if he just thinks she's great. You think it's blind. You think he's blind. Yeah. Yeah. And then about three years later, it'll be like, damn. That's annoying. Yeah. My dad was right. Dad, she tells terrible stories. Seriously, we've been meaning to tell you this for years, but I love you, and you're so beautiful. You suck at telling stories. Yeah. They're so long and have nothing to do with anything we care about. Yeah. You're eye candy and ear veggies. But here's the deal. Being a family going, I hope no one ever comes into our family telling stories about anything other than our family.

Get over yourselves. Yeah. I do feel like they're if if the first two options aren't the case, they're probably this family has something else Right. That they don't like about her, and they're just like, you know what really is the worst, though? The stories. I just you know what? You should just cut it off now. That would really solve all the problems. Right. If I'm talking to you and I'm like, hey. My friend, like, Travis, he blah blah blah. You're like, I've never even met Travis. I could care less about this stupid story that you're trying to tell me. It's like, that's not a real way to take in the world. Oh. Just because the story isn't of your family and someone else is putting themselves into the conversation doesn't you cut you might suck. You know you know what's wild, though? Like, you're if she hate they hate something about her that is worse than the story thing. You think that they might say the story thing because they find it acceptable, but really, she's Lutheran or something. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's probably something or like that that lady a few weeks ago where she would just, like, didn't understand the customs or, like, the language or Oh, yeah. Something like that where it's, like, it's not would not be an actually very legitimate reason, and so they just are picking up the story thing. Yeah. I think you guys are missing the obvious. Okay. This this is the family from Ozark. So they're, like, all secret double agent drug dealer living fan really crazy lives, and this other person's like normal. I don't get those channels, Dan. The family from Ozark. Have you seen Like, the Lake Of The Ozarks? Haven't you seen the the series Ozark? They're all Oh, this is a show. Yeah. I just I thought this was, like, something that's known about people that live in the Lake Of The Ozarks. They're just Look. I've been here in the Lake Of The Ozarks, and I don't feel like it was any fronts for drug trafficking.

Sorry. I like, Ben said, I don't get those channels. I don't even get the, like, the ads for those channels, apparently. I didn't know was That's why you guys can't answer the question. Yeah. I'm yeah. I totally did not see the fact that this family is like, yeah. Let's listen to boring Nancy over here talking about her life. He has no idea that we deal with the cartel. Exactly. You thought he was a CPA. No. He's a cartel dude. Okay. Alright. Is that what Ozarks is about? He's a CPA for the cartel? I'm not Pretty much. Yeah. He was a CPA. He got pulled in. It's the one with Jason or David Jason Bateman? Wait a minute. That's also that's also part of the plot of, Jack Reacher, the TV series. I've never seen that one. Oh, I never saw that one. Yeah. Guy gets to great for the cards. They get together. I was at Pirate Stadium, like, a month ago, and I realized that that was the that was the place at the beginning of the Jack Reacher movie when the guys like to do yeah. It's bad stuff. I was like, oh, I'm there. That's creepy. Yeah. That's crazy. So okay. Alright. We're ready for seculars? Yes. Let's have it. Alright. Secular says, if you do what your daughters are suggesting, which is to break up, or tell them, excuse me, that they should break up, Your son is almost guaranteed to be offended and become defensive. It could very likely alienate him and his fiancee.

An alternative might be for you to talk privately with your son and point out that his fiancee needs to curtail her speeches because, in case he hasn't noticed, they are so long that she has literally been losing her audience. That seems Yeah. Okay. Alright. Alright. One more. We think it's quick. We think it's a long I got long ones because it's a creepy it's a creepy, like, front desk attendant at a apartment complex. Okay. Let's have it. Okay. Alright. Dear, live from the path. Yes. I live in an apartment building. Okay. I am quiet and keep to myself. There's a concierge here who is incredibly nosy. When I pick up my packages,

she asks, so what's in the package? As if I'm doing something nefarious. She's also a terrible gossip and a liar. At the front desk as well as to management, she has accused me of doing things that never happened. Sexual impropriety Uh-oh. Drug and tobacco use, etcetera. Oh my. I started receiving strange unsigned text messages with the same accusations. I can usually recognize who contacts me. My contact information was available in the office. This woman recently accessed

my apartment using a master key. Man. Fortunately, I was at home at the time. Well, that's awkward. She she was fired. Oh. But she was back last weekend. Our manager said she is here temporarily until he can find a replacement.

There are multiple copies of these keys out there, and I no longer feel safe in my own home. What would you do if you were me? I get a doorstep. Yeah. Get a for a new lock? I don't know. Obviously, this is a problem everyone's proven. Like, it's not like the, the owner would be like, you know, it's fine. Like, can you just put a new lock on the door? He already fired her. I would threaten legal action to this freaking apartment complex that seems to be literally hiring someone back who broke into your home. That's crazy. I've I've been a staffing manager before, but I've never thought, I really need to hire back Rhonda. Like, she she did, like, falsely accused that tenant a lot and then accessed her apartment without without asking, and I fired her for it. It was that much of an offense. But after firing her, I brought her back, which is a rough rough go of any kind of employment law. Yeah. Yeah. You're, either that or maybe this tenant is kinda crazy. Maybe this tenant, like, thinks that she was fired. Oh. And she wasn't actually fired, but the landlord was like, yeah. I fired her a week ago. Blah blah blah blah blah but didn't actually do that. I And then she saw her again and is like, fire Nancy.

Is it normal for apartments to have concierge? If it's like a a building that you have to, like, be, like, badged in or not badged into, but, like, you have to prove that you live there. They do You think department. He's not using an elevated word? Does it mean that you just Yeah. Like, that just feels really fancy. No. I'm thinking I'm thinking like I'm imagine, like, a movie in New York City where Right. But they wouldn't see you getting your mail. Yeah. They would. When they don't they aren't they stuck at the door? Yeah. You're The mauling, mister Thompson. You're thinking a door person. Oh, that's rude. Like,

there's the difference. We don't call them that anymore. I think there's a difference between the person that is responsible for being, like, hospitality out front, calling cabs, hailing cabins, and, like, getting people in the front door. And the person whose job is to, like, watch the place, make certain that people that are coming in for any kind of, like, third party services or something have access to the rooms that they're supposed to be in Yeah. Are assisting emergency efforts in those situations. That that is concierge to me in the the front area. So we think this is an upscale joint. Yeah. It seems like it.

Wow. That's that's what I got from it. I don't know if that's true or not. Was thinking like like, East Side Of Mitchellville. You know? Like, I I I don't know if it was just like the, breaking and entering or what, but that's the vibe. I hate to I hate to pull back the curtain Okay. If you will. Some people sign what they say Oh, yeah. To do the path. Oh, yeah. Sometimes it's interesting to get the context here. Tell me. And I don't know what this says about what I'm thinking about. This may not be the situation I was talking about. Yep. But the person signed it invaded in Georgia. Oh. Oh. Now I'm not saying Boova. I'm not saying

that there is not high class society like buildings in the entire state of Georgia, but I will say that the mental picture that I was drawing was very much home alone in New York City. Yeah. Now it's more like Peach farm. Or trailer court. I didn't say that. I'm just saying the high rises of Atlanta, I think, might be a little different than the swanky New York apartments that I was thinking of. Okay. Alright. Ethan, you said you'd move. Yeah. You said that this you don't think the manager's gonna straighten things out. You just got here. Yeah.

If it's that big of a deal to you, then I would move. Yeah. If it's that big of a deal to you, if someone accessed your home with a key Or or they're just, like, overreact like, they have, like, a different view on it, like what Ben was saying, I think. But Yeah. But then they're gonna say you have fourteen months left on your lease, on your contract, and you gotta Yeah. The actually, Dan's Dan's probably right. The same guy who would rehire Lucinda. This lying break like, breaking and entering woman will also hold you to the full lease. Right. Exactly. I know you wanna leave, but you do realize that you owe me $30 if you do. Yeah. There's there's no, like, wild woman clause in here. Sitting there going, and with all that money, I can hire a second concierge. Okay. One that's less likely to text the guests. Okay. I do so here's what I think I would do realistically. I would get one of those I would get a doorstop.

I would get like, the things like, women sometimes travel, and not not just ladies, but, like, dudes also could travel with, like, a doorstop they take to hotels. Sure. Yeah. So this is that just come on in. Since you can't install something probably on the hardware, I get one of those things that you can put in there. And that way, she tries to get in, she can't get in even if she's got the key, and it's super obvious. Yeah. Do you know that when you leave though? Do you have to do that from the inside? Yeah. You you could only have it there when you're home. So, like, what she could technically get in. I'd set up a Wyze camera. They're cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Ring doorbell. Those exist. There you go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. They just did one. I spy on my dog during the day. I'm just laughing because I Dan, I just it was funny to hear you say, like, well, would you put the doorstop in and and then leave? I know. It's like, don't I don't have get back in? Do you have a string on it or something? How do you get back in? You don't. So you only have the doorstop to prevent the intruder from coming in while you're home. Yeah. You're right. It's only a 50% of the time help. That was my point. Thought thought of Dan's shimmying down the balcony. I'll show them. Now no one will get in. Take that, you crazy concierge. Nancy can't get in. Oh, crap. Neither can I? Yeah. Oh, here she comes. She saw me a second way in. Okay. Then she really thinks you're on drugs because you're using the fire escape when you could have just walked out your door. That's true. You're you're gonna have a hard time making the case that she's ridiculous when you're caught shimmying the balcony.

Okay. Well, you better tell us. What is the secular advice? Rescue the situation. Secular says, document all the incidents that have happened. Polaroid. If they of your ear. If they continue, write down the time and date they occur. Oh, meticulous. This will prove beneficial should you need to escalate the matter. That the manager rehired a fired employee because of staff shortage is disappointing. It shouldn't have happened, and there are better ways of augmenting staff needs. Because your manager has been unresponsive, reach out to the property owner or management company and report what has been going on. If that is ineffective, report the matter to the police. Your safety and well-being must come first.

If you can afford if you can afford to engage an attorney, consult one for advice on legal options you can consider to protect yourself from harassment, hostility, bullying. Mhmm. If the situation doesn't improve, consider finding a new place to live. Oh, the Yeah. Yeah. The number two huffy option. Yes. Yeah. India is option number one. Right. Escalate the matter appropriately or leave. So okay. I I have very minimal experience with situation like this, but we stayed we were at a basketball tournament last year, and we stayed at a hotel, and there were bedbugs in the bathroom. Oh, no. And we found the bedbugs. Bathroom bugs? And we captured a couple. Of course, my wife, like, traps it. Like, we're a bunch of safari bug people.

And then tomologist found the bedbugs. Yeah. I've in the bed work long. I've captured it. So I I go to the front desk. Right? And I say, hey. I was trying to keep it quiet. So look. I'm not trying to cause a scene here, but you guys need to know that there's so I go, hey. The guy makes me I tell them there's bed bugs, and he goes, just a minute. And he just does everything that he wants to for another thirty five minutes. Filing papers, talking to people, answering the phone, doing whatever he wants. I'm just standing there. And he he comes, like, after the thirty five he looks over and he goes, yes. I said, what? Oh, no. I said, hey. I just said you got a couple bedbugs in the in the bathroom, and, you know, what should we what are the next steps? And he's like, well, I'll tell the maintenance guys. Like, this is it? This is the only reaction you have? Incredibly disappointing. Like This this place was full. This like, we were all the entire basketball team was there. Everyone was there. Chomped. Full. Place was just and, like, you know, it was in the bathroom, and it's not the end of the world, but, like, I kind of expect him to go, sir, we're very sorry. I don't I mean, I paid for the room. I don't really mind that I paid for the rooms. Right? But, like, I kind of expected him to go, hey. You know, we'll comp you $50 or here's breakfast or you don't have to pay for the stay or whatever. Or we'll pay we'll pay for the fact that you're gonna go run all your stuff through the dryer. Here's $20. Where you well, we'll do it in our dryer. Something. Something. And he's he's basically just like, okay. What now? I'm like, okay. Well, alright.

So I just went like I left. He's like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what blowing up on him would have done. The Right. The guy didn't care. Yeah. Right? Just like the guy at the apartment complex. He probably doesn't care at all. So I did like, I contacted the management later on, and I said, look. I don't even need you to give me something. I'm just telling you, like, this guy handled this very poorly. Sure. Hey. Hey. I'm I'm sorry. It would have been great or something. And so, you know, sometimes you just run into people who just do not give a flip, and there's not much you can do about it. Yep. So They're just there because they couldn't work anywhere else. Yeah. They got fired as a concierge. They went to go work at this at this joint. Alright. You're listening live from the path. Thank you so much for hanging out with us this very evening. We do appreciate it. Remember, you can go first, you if you have any feedback on the show, you love Ethan, you're disappointed in Buva, just go ahead and let us know. You owe us pictures of your shirt mistakes. Shirt. Uh-oh. Hashtag. Remember, this is a situation in which you bought a shirt, and and you you wish you wouldn't have bought that shirt based off of the kind of interactions you might have had in in that shirt. You think we're walk I might invite a scandal? Is that what you're worried about? Send us your shirt mistakes.

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