Live from Lowell Street Studios, downtown Des Moines, you are Live from the Path. Welcome! You are listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines, Amplified.com. I am Ben Foost. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. With us in the studio, we'll do some more formal introductions later, but Dan and Mike are here, as always. Good evening, fellas. Good evening. Dan? Yes. You having a gum? In my car. Terrible. I just spit it out. I do have some, I just spit out, spread out in a piece of paper. You notice the prices of gum have risen outrageously in the last two, three years? Absolutely. I mean, without any warranted explanation. Although the packaging itself is enough for me to pay more. The price of sugar has gone up, but I get sugarless gum, and it's gone up as well. That seems unfair. I protest. I didn't know that about gum. I'm out. I don't know. You guys might be exaggerating the actual… I mean… Ah! We got gum. Yeah, gum.

You can't do that while on the air. These are the people that love me. To the contractor. You know, they tried to tell me that the first time I was on the radio and said, I can't chew gum. There's some guy that had a big old fit about it. That wrote into the message board or whatever, like, who's this young punk kid? Like, only people under 30 chew gum and do it vaguely to cause trouble through society. I'm pretty sure people like chew gum and talk to other people all the time. Yeah, you don't see anybody else yelling at those guys. Tim Cooper, hop on up in that deal. I want to hear what you think about this gum situation we're talking about. I don't chew gum. Really? Because I would eat it and swallow it. Scoot up to the microphone. Go ahead and eat that thing. You got to pretend like no one can hear you unless you're talking into the microphone. It's crazy. There we go. So you don't chew gum at all? I do not chew gum at all because if anything goes in my mouth, I want to eat it and swallow it. I eat lots of candy and stuff like that, but gum, it's just like a bad situation. What happens when you accidentally, like, have your mouth open on your pillow or something? I get through a lot of pillows.

Sleep over at Tim Cooper's place, out. Not going to happen. That's comforting, at least. I would hope you don't use a toothpick. No. That might be, you might take a swallow of it. Brush your teeth, maybe hit or miss. It gets soggy. You've ever had a toothpick, it gets soggy, and eat part of it? I've done that. What? Not on purpose. Maybe those mint ones, yeah. Yeah, you sit there and you're stuck out of it all, and I was like, oh, man, I just a liver thing. So, like, those sausage-type things that you get, the little parties, the cocktails. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing the whole thing. You've just got to, yeah, you've got to get all the juice out of it. You're not talking to you. I'm okay. In case you missed it, Tim did some kind of Frankenstein impersonation. Like a giant sausage-toothpick had gotten stuck lodged to his throat. We call it. You cannot eat a pillow once you eat one of those.

No, no, no. That makes it really hard. All the feathers get stuck on it. Yeah, it's just not going to work. That's a regret. Anyway. How am I supposed to know what they can see? Huh? I'm just giving the playback. I'm just saying, just so you know, we caught it. Well, maybe someone else is looking away. There's video playback of Tim Cooper doing the Frankenstein deal. I didn't see it. Hello, YouTube. Sounds like a highlight. You're listening to Life in the Path on Des Moines and Epile.com. With us in the studio tonight is Tim Cooper and friends. I didn't check. Are there any ne'er-do-wells in this crowd? Are all friends? I actually have no idea what that expression means. Oh. I was asking Julio, do you know what it means? I drew it on the spot.

Ne'er-do-wells are people who don't ever do anything righteously. Oh. Troublemakers. Quarrelsome bunch. You don't know anybody like that? Nope. No, all good folks. Well, you better get to them. They seem to make the pack. We can find you some. There might be some available. We have a lot of friends. They have a low-rent radio gig going, but we'll see. I mean, when they free up some time, I'm pretty sure they can make it. Anyway. So let's… We got some live tunes in tonight. That'll be cool. I'm jazzed about that. Yeah. You know, for over the last three weeks it's been, right? We've had live bands from the Spirit Midwest Music Festival. We've had On This Rock, Next Crossing, Certainty, Saved on Sunday. All just did a fantastic job coming in studio.

It's been really cool. It actually has. Get them out of their element, really. Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of them are, you know, rockers, and you kind of get them in with an acoustic thing, and it's been kind of cool. Yeah. It's given us a real opportunity to have a listen to some of the Christian music that I had no idea was around town. And all four of the bands that we've had here so far have done a great job. You kind of thought you were it, didn't you? I thought I was the only gig in town. You were like… Yeah. Mike's one-man Jesus band. Me and the Lord, I said. Who else needs accompaniment? Speaking of which, if you were ever looking for accompaniment, perhaps you could talk to Al Barnes. Al, are you on? Al. Sorry, he's on the Skype. Is he? Oh, he's hung up.

Well, don't go on it. I thought we were going to have a real smooth, I don't know where transition was. He was there. I had him on. That was impressive. Can we do that again sometime? Maybe I can pretend to talk to Al. Is that all it is to do your job? Here, I'll make the background. You've got to wear this bandana. That's about the extent of it. The Queen of Norway is on the chat, too. Let's go talk to a girl, Ben. Or if you fake it. Yeah, this is Al. Is that a good impression of Al? No. Well, I'm glad I didn't do it. I can do it because he's not here. He's hanging around. Nor is he escaping. He's stalking the chat. Oh, that's a camera? Oh, yeah.

Sorry, Tim. It's televised as well. Yeah. So that face you made when you were acting like Al? When you looked like a cross between grape ape and some kind of Mandarin tiger? Al saw the whole thing. It's just friends and friends. It's Tim Cooper's friends. Rename the people that put up with Tim Cooper. A.K.A. the ne'er-do-well. The ne'er-do-well. So actually, it's been great to have a lot of the bands in from the Spirit Midwest Festival. The festival, you can find more information at spiritmidwest.com. It's on August 6th and 7th. There's 40-plus bands going on. It's completely free. So you can save your money so you can purchase things at this place. There's lots of vendors there and delights. I always forget the… What was the… Roseland. Roseland and delights. You know what I'm saying? Roseland.

Roseland's coffee and delights. Roseland, are you listening? That's right. Roseland, it's the internet. Reach out. It's time to join the web. Tim Cooper made it. You can't make it? Time to join the 80s. Wait, what was that? Hold on a minute. Oh, I thought… I thought maybe we had Al back. Poor Al. What a debacle this technology has become. He's going to do the impression of me now. So anyway, if you go out and check out the stuff, there's still room for volunteers. They've still got plenty of space for volunteers. They've still got… They're adding bands. I saw there was… Silver Line, right, is on? Yeah. And so, I mean, still plenty of bands.

I don't know. It's really exciting. We're definitely going to be out there. I know Friday night, and hopefully some portions of Saturday, because we're the draw to the festival, definitely. You can come out because of the live. Yeah. We'll be out there glad-handing and kissing babies and stuff. Where's them shady internet characters? That's who I want. Giving my kid a pucker on the head. Hi, I'm Roslyn, so you're the guy. You're the guy. Stay away from my booth. Don't touch my delights. That could go the wrong way. I hope that's not taken out of context. I was keeping an innocent… What a bummer. I have regrets. That's one of them. Hey, I got to take a quick second, actually, to just say something real quick. I am blessed with one of the best wives that I can… Should I play some soft guitar music?

Shush! Can you play some sad guitar music in the background? Daniel, shush! In the background. You're ruining it. Oh, sorry. Anyway, when I left the house today… I'm helping you. Both of my kids were crying, and I usually put them to bed, and she was gracious enough to take my spot as the night withers on. And I'd like to say this, woman, that I really appreciate everything that you do for me and allowing me to do these things. And if you'll just listen for a second while I sing, Conte Partiro. There's a compliment. I've memorized this. Here it is. There it is. Man, they're coming out of the woodwork. There are people all over the place. I think three cats died. You got room for 42 bands now? I'm not. Double… No, also, that's not a joke. That's not a joke. We sincerely appreciate Mike's wife's permittance of him and his ex.

I agree. Daniel, why don't you step on it? I was going to have it. I was loving on it. You totally fouled it. I'd like to have your first signed copy of a CD. Yeah, I'll sign up with self-addressed. What's going on? Did someone win? He just made room. What? Did somebody win? What? Hey, hey, I do what I want. That's what happens at my house when people are laughing. Is that not what goes on at your face? Yeah, that's what goes on at my house. Yeah, definitely. I mean, we don't do that. Christians don't have gas. That's the deal. I don't know what you've heard. That's Satan escaping from your life. It's not a way to stand out of this conversation.

I'm disappointing. That's why it stinks. That's a foul demon. Boy, you've really done something bad today. That's awful. How do we get back to this? I think for a good month and a half, we've stayed away from this bathroom here, but now we've returned with events. I mean, we're renowned for bathroom. Go ahead, Tim. Jump in. Now's the time. It's a sinking ship. There's plenty of room. You can work a toothpick in there somewhere, I'm sure. Sounds like a real gasp. And Tim slams it home. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That is the show for this evening. You were once on the show, once called live from the path. Now turned over to the Mormons. Thank you. The path has been defiled. Because we need it, and perhaps you can not use it as well, we do meet at Pathway Church

on Sundays. Not a good time to mention that. 10 a.m. The first Baptist church. With the only drive-through baptismal. Wow. $10 dunking fee. The time is flying. Are you guys about ready to perform something? Oh, yeah, no. We've got to cut away from this debacle. I'll give you five minutes to calm down. Nice ballad. Take a breather, get to be, you know, whatever it takes. Mike? What? What do you got going on? I got the P.I. What's that? Poison Ivy. Oh. What were you thinking? I was just trying to put it together. Actually, I came up with a couple more things that could have meant, but we'll stick with

Poison Ivy. That's good. Yeah. Tell me about it. Well, it's a rough deal. You know, it's actually, yeah, I don't know what to say about it. It's terrible. I don't know if I've ever had it. I'm very susceptible to it. Yeah. Like if I get within five feet of it. I saw it the other day. You were itching everything. Yeah. Yeah, it goes wherever you go. We'll put it that way. And when you go, it's mean. It's a mean mistress. I'll tell you that. But they usually give you a steroid shot. Here's what I did. So I went to the doctor, you know, and they asked me a bunch of questions, blah, blah, blah, and I've had Poison Ivy before and gone to the doctor, and they refused to give me more capsules than necessary because I think I'll just have more for next time so I don't

have to come in here. Yeah, they got your number. Yeah. So they go through the whole rigmarole. Their computers are down. They can't find my file. I've got to fill this thing all out, blah, blah, blah. And I look like I've come down with, you know, Adams disease, which is the modern leprosy. Is it not? That's what they call Adams disease? I think it is. Really? There's a different name for it. I can't remember. Make Adams. That doesn't sound right. That starts with an M. Well, the poor guy. It had a name, and then he was so inflicted with it, they decided to rename it to him? Well, I'm pretty sure Steve Leprosy isn't going to mind anymore. He's been dead for years. But anyway, you get the option of getting a shot of the pills, you know, and I asked the nurse lady, because I think the shot does quicker business, you know, and I said, so do you guys usually give a shot of the pills?

And she's like, oh, oh, that depends. I thought, I'm not getting a shot. That doesn't sound like they're going to give it to me. And of course they didn't. Dr. Young Buck come rolling in there. He's like, oh, I've seen poison ivy before. Do you have it underneath your fingernails? I said, well, I don't know. You know, I don't know. I would get in there. And he goes, you're getting the pills. Like, he had already known I'd asked the question. And I went to the all-natural pharmacy to get this thing filled, and they tried to get me on some kind of RCC droplets. All-natural pharmacy? It's like a regular, I mean. Well, it's like a pharmacy, but they have like an all-natural. They just replace it with herbs. Like an organic offshoot. They're asking for morphine, but we're going to give you. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I go rolling in there, and I give them my stuff, and I say, they go, you know, you should really try this and this.

So you put 15 drops on your tongue, and you'll be immune for it, you know? And I'm like, well, that sounds, I'm intrigued. How much is it? They say, 20 bucks. I say, well, that's over my allowed spending limit for the day. You know, I'm my best wife about this, and I'll come back to you. And the wife's on board, so I think I'm going to get, I don't remember what this stuff's called, but it's made out of some kind of goose toenail or something. I don't know. It's supposed to do something. I've been taking, I've had a, I've had like a stuffy nose for the last couple days, and I've been, and a sore throat, and I've been taking a cherry bark blend, and some sweet, sweet echnation, and I'm feeling all right. Who comes up with this stuff? Who says, well, I take a little bark from this tree over here and the roots from that? Vicki. Vicki does. Vicki does it. Vicki, do you know the stuff I'm talking about? I understand that you might read the stuff, but you don't make it up. It's very homeopathic. I don't know who made it up. It comes with a little wizard puppet that tells me what to do. Well, exactly.

I mean, I'm just saying, let's say, you know, 2,000 years ago, some guy's digging through, you know, horse ratty's roots or something, going, I'm going to go ahead and mix this with some camel hair. Actually, you know what, I think it had to do with a lack of hope, right, because they didn't have a bunch of modern medicine, so you know what, like, if he's sitting in the corner kind of twisting around, you're like, whatever, man, give him those horseradish roots. See if that does anything for him. Yeah. Try it with that cherry bark blend. I mean, we might as well try it with him. He's going down. Well, they get really specific on what they, on, on, that's the thing that, like, it's the, like, it's the stuff that's, like, super specific, like extract, extract of, of a raccoon knuckle or something, you know, it's like, would the knee have done just the same, or, you know, do we have to have the knuckle extract? Absolutely not. And, and who, no wonder raccoons are so mad at us, you know? He's coming from a knuckle. Some crazy, you know, dude dressed in all white chasing brother in the middle of the night trying to get extract from his knuckle. I'd be mad, too. I'd knock the trash can over. Take that.

You six-foot giant? Maybe they threw my knuckle away. You could be in there. I'm just intrigued by, you know, following on from this, is that somebody gets ill with something, rather, I don't know, you know, we get to pray for people now, but, you know, it's like, I'm just going to start biting things, and then something fixes it. I feel better now. Is that your pet? Well, look at all the new things we have now that they didn't try 2,000 years ago. I mean, jet fuel and stuff. I mean, there's stuff out there. Refrigerated with teeth marks. Yes, exactly. You know, I'm pretty sure kids have tried huffing the jet fuel, Daniel, and I don't think it's going real well. Hold on. I bet they do feel better. Whether it's actually better, I suppose, is the question. Maybe they're just experimenting. Teeth marks on the… Yeah, that's true. Why are we so down on occasional drug users? Maybe they're just trying to feel better. I like your train of thought, Daniel.

I didn't say that. I got to take that dedication for your friend. Go on, everybody. Just trying to feel great. We got a little Jesus for you. You can come, but you won't get a microphone. This won't be the first place. Hey, man, you remember that time? Me and Mike, and we had to have been 16 years old or whatever, and we decided we were going to embarrass our mom at the Walmart. So she was out walking around, and we went to the customer service desk and had her page that we were lost, and that we were looking for her at the customer service. So we were like, you know, Mama Foost, your children are looking for you at the customer service station. Mama Foost. Boy. Yeah, when she showed up, we were on the ground kicking, screaming, and making a big scene about it. How old were you? 16. See, that was years ago. I actually embarrassed my wife. She knows me, so she puts up with a lot. But I was down in Texas at Thanksgiving.

We were in my mother-in-law's local grocery store, and I thought there was a counter which said customer care. So I walked up to them, and Jodie, my wife, she's like, I can't stand here while you do this. I walked up, and I just said, customer care. I said, you know, I was doing great when I walked in, but I'm just walking past your cereal. I just got really sad, really quickly, just like really morose. I can't explain it. Can you help me, please? And they were really good. One of them tried doing a dance. And I said, I appreciate the sentiment, but it's not helping me. So the other one said, would you like a sucker? Yeah, so I walked out of the store with a sucker, and the one behind my ear. And my wife was like, I can't believe that. You've got to have fun. That's awesome. I think you're giving them ideas. Yeah, I probably am, actually. Now, Tim, you're originally from Texas, right? Yes. Just over the border. Yeah, the draw.

They were practicing the draw on influence, and giving the injector. They gave me the wrong mouth. No, they did. It was the same thing as the medicine. You're like, you know what, try it on that guy. Give him the English accent, see if he's more polite. That shot really hurt. Al, did you make it on? I did. I'm here. Hey, Al. How are you? I don't know. I think we're doing all right. How are things going on your end? Can you do a dance for us? We'd be better. Being the computer geek that I am, I just had to reboot my computer because it kicked me out. I don't understand why. Did you say something offensive to it? No, I did not. Oh. Well, then I'm not sure. That's all my troubleshooting go?

Yeah. Is it? Hold on. I can't really. It's a pretty small picture of you, Al, but you look pretty upset when you took this picture that's on your Skype. No, I just had no idea it was going to snap the picture. Oh, you weren't ready for it? No. No. I had that happen during my passport picture. It was quite embarrassing in Guatemala. They actually let you out of the country? Actually, I've only used my passport twice. Once to London, which we've talked about, and then once again to Jamaica. Oh, okay. Al, have you ever been out the country? I've been to Papua New Guinea. Oh, no kidding. Australia. What were you doing in Papua New Guinea? Visiting missionary friends up in the Highlands. Oh, no kidding. Yeah.

How long was that stay? About 12 days. Well, that's a heck of a visit. Are you sure like six days in they were getting irritated with you and wanted you to go home? No, they were amazed. They had never seen such a short, fat, white man before. Have they met? Never mind. I'm not short. He was going to say David. I said never mind. I can't stay with anybody for more than three days before I can tell they're getting visibly irritated with me. Who? Anybody. Anybody. Just ask your brother. He knows. I'm not allowed to go to his house. Last time I was at his house, I said something, and his wife won't allow me back. That's true. You know, I was just thinking about it while I was talking. We've got to get some missionaries that don't live in Cedar Rapids. You know, why can't we get missionaries who live in some cool offshore place, you know? Carol's dad will be here soon.

Yeah. Yeah, we're definitely going to need some. He'll be here this fall. Who? Karen's dad. Karen. Remember we were talking about him? He has that, uh… Leonard? He's like a… Yeah. He's like a televangelist. Yeah. Yeah. In India. In India. You think he'd have us on as guest speakers? He can be speakers on our show, buddy. We have a show. I don't think we know his language. Yeah. He speaks English, Daniel. Well, I mean, in India. But are they speaking India?

Indian. What's that mean? Really? I don't know. I don't know. Who knows culture? Anybody? It's already been proven that we're totally uncultured. We don't know anything about other parts of the world. Pigeon. Really? Pigeon? Who does speak pigeon? Can you do it for us? That's my wife. Pigeon English. Hold on. Let's have it. Yes. In Papua New Guinea, I would ask people after church, you me go long house, belong me? That means you want to come to my house. How do you say yes in Papua New Guinea? See?

Wait a minute. Like, you did say pigeon, though, right? Yes. I was thinking, like, cuckoo. Yeah, I was, too. I thought it was, like, I said it for a joke. Knock, knock. Ask her how you say see you later. See you in pigeon. How do you say see you later in pigeon? Look at me behind. Oh, man. Al, you've set me up for the last time. Al. Al. Al. I'm afraid I… Al's been banned. Boy, you know, Al, get banned from this show. That says a lot. That is. That does. Wow. So you really don't…

Are you not going to make a bird noise? Okay. You're not pulling a chain or nothing. That's what they call it. Oh, that is the real language. Pigeon English. Pigeon English. A combination of German, French, English, and a little bit else. Well, man, I'm really excited. I'm going to claim that I know pigeon English. I don't know that that many people would know whether I did or whether I didn't. Well, you know, maybe you've got to be careful there because when you start telling people, you look them behind, they might not understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see how they're going to be taken the wrong way, definitely. You know, I learned how to speak. Especially in America. That bird pigeon off of Sesame Street, that Bert from the Muppets sings that. He goes, doing the hawk pigeon. He goes, whoo. Al, you ever go to sesamestreet.com and play any of the games they've got there? No, I haven't actually been there.

So here's the deal. If you're going to do it with your two-year-old daughter, you have to learn enough patience when she's not doing it right, not to take over and actually win the game. Because it's hard not to win these games once you get started, you know? Okay. Hey, Al? Yes, sir. Hey, thanks for calling in. I appreciate you. Does this mean I've got to go? Yeah, I'm going to kick you off because Tim Cooper and friends are really the show. Oh, sorry. I'm not entertaining. And frankly, I feel like if we don't put him on, Tim's going to get angry and run away. He's got a mean streak to him. Have you seen his one? He gets angry. He had a vicious temper earlier. Just make sure that he really gets up to that microphone. He doesn't really talk very loud. Okay, I'll keep an eye on him. All right. I'm sympathetic to your soundplight, Al. Yeah.

Ciao. Okay. See you, Al. All right. Successful. Al seems to be concerned with you speaking into the microphone. He says you have a bit of an effeminate voice, and it's hard to understand. He didn't say that. I may have taken some liberties on what Al said. This is why you wear headphones, because you can hear what Al says. Okay. Well, we're going to go ahead and get you guys up and ready to go. What song are you going to perform for us? Arms of Love. Arms of Love. All right. We're going to listen to Arms of Love from Tim Cooper and Friends. How long have you guys been together? Years and years and years and years and years and years. This is Vicky. That's Julie. And that's Doug over there. Julie, Vicky and I have been singing together for many, many years, along with drummer Les and another guitarist, Ron Carrington.

We've been to him, what, 10, 15 years? Various. Yeah. And then Doug's been with us, what, two years now, Doug? He actually came on to replace. Ron was going to leave, so talking with Doug, and he offered to fill the electric guitar gap. And then Ron never left, so we got an extra guitarist. Both. Those were awkward moments. So, yeah. And then Robert, our bass player, he's been with us, what, four years now? Three or four? Maybe. Probably. Five. Okay. Yeah. So time flies when you're having fun. Absolutely. Yeah, the seven of us in the band. Now, do you have any music out there for sale? Was that song on a CD? Yeah, that was the title track to CD number two called Arms of Love. There are three CDs actually recorded now there.

The first one is Your Ways Are Higher. That was, I think, a release set in 2001. Then Arms of Love came out in 2003. In fact, all the songs we're going to sing today are from Arms of Love, just because. And then Captain of My Heart, the most recent one, came out in 2007. They're all available. If you go to tcoopermusic.com, there's links there. And you can go and get them on the CD Baby. It's a secure site. And then I'm kind of, I've got a backlog recording the next CD, which will be called Healer of Men. And I'm writing songs for the CD after that. And I just take way too long recording them. Yeah, and that tcoopermusic.com, I mean, they have videos and they have photos and they have song snippets. And I went and checked it out today. And there's plenty of cool stuff going on there. So make sure you go check it out. So it's very neat. Very neat. So how do you write your songs? Could I ask the scenes that you've got apparently 50 million hanging out there looking for a CD to go on? Yeah, well, I'm actually kind of slow writing songs. But all of the songs I've written since I've been a Christian, actually since like 1995, when I started writing these praise and worship songs, they've just pretty much all come through times of worship when I'm just praising God and then the song just comes. And then more recently, the last few years, it seemed like it's been more of a giving birth process lasting sometimes two or three days and kind of just digging in the scripture.

And I'm big on biblical, you know, making it biblical. And I think if you're going to get something stuck in somebody's noggin and they're waking up in, you know, two in the morning or something, I think it's a lot more logical if it's God's word than my word. Although that last one wasn't, I mean, it was biblical, but it wasn't scripture. But that's… Still, I like your format, though. So I don't try and force the songs, but there's a fine line with getting lazy and, you know, you have to labor at it as well sometimes. So I hadn't written one, a complete one, for quite a while, months and months and months. And then a few weeks ago, I was preparing to leave worship and reading over the notes from the pastor and the scriptures and wrote a song there Saturday night before the Sunday service. So that was exciting to me. None of God's not done with me yet. Don't put me on the B team yet, God. I'm ready. I always thought it was… I always think it's really cool, actually, to meet people that write Christian music and worship songs in general. Because, you know, like with all the bands that we've had come in here recently and the whole festival thing going on, these are a different breed of people than musicians are. In general, you know, I'm in a band, look at me type musicians. And they're not all like that, you know. Don't take that the wrong way. But, I mean, most people, you know, that I know that are in a band, they're like, you know, we have to get this out, we have to get that out. You know, we got to get, you know. You know, and when you meet the bands that we've had in here over the last three weeks that are doing it for God and for His glory

and just saying, you know, here's the talent the Lord gave me, let's do this. I don't know, I find something really cool about that. Because, like I said, I mean, music is a different animal for just about everybody, you know. I mean, it means a lot to everybody, you know, Christian or not. You know the Lord, you don't know the Lord. People dig on music, you know. And people that take that opportunity and use it for God's glory, I just find it amazing. I mean, I really do. Especially writing Christian music, you know. I mean, there's a million ways to say, you know, I love you, Lord. It's just figuring out exactly how you're going to say it, you know. You know, bust out a… Love you. Yeah, love you. This is all I got. Ah, Lord. You know. Actually, that's one of the real dangers in Christian music because it's tough. Like, it's pretty easy to put out something that's not great. That people have to get behind because you're, you know, you're praising God with it. And so, I mean, that's nice. But, I mean, there is something to be said for putting out something that people can really get involved with and worship with. Beyond that, just, oh, okay, yeah, we like it that you worship. I mean, it's great.

How do you feel about that, Dan? I'm for it. Okay. I'm glad you're for it. Good thing. Social commentary. Dan Hudson's here today. The place is on fire. That was Tim Cooper and Friends, and you are on Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. You can reach us during the week on LiveFromThePath.org. You can see archived shows. You can get access to our audio podcast. You can also, there's a, right on the front page, there's a connection to our blog, the Facebook page, and the YouTube clips. We'll be posting clips of their performances tonight onto that YouTube channel as to, well, there's also a performances page of our website. You can go see performances from all the bands that we've had on recently and check those guys out. Cool. And so that's pretty exciting. We also, I would encourage you, I know it's late, and if you can only catch portions of the show, I would encourage you to go get a hold of the podcast and sign up for that. Also, for Pathway Church that I talked about earlier, that website is ThePathOnline.org. If you're interested, if you're looking for a church family, or more importantly, if you're looking for a relationship with Jesus Christ, we'd love to see you at Pathway Church in Johnston, or wherever your heart may lead you as a Bible-based Jesus-following church. Yeah, definitely. And you can check out the comings and goings of Tim Cooper and friends at tcoopermusic.com. And we said earlier that you'll be at the Spirit Midwest Festival. Yes.

When will you be on? I believe, what, 6.30 Friday night on the main stage. That'll be the full band doing kind of the electric stuff. And then on Saturday, 7 o'clock, it'll be the acoustic, yeah, the acoustic, which will be, I think, four of us, maybe? I think it's going to be Julie, Vicky, Les, I think, will be doing percussion, and then myself, and then anyone else we kind of spot and recognize. Last time we did that, there was a friend, Steve Haig, a very good piano tuner as well. Yeah. Haig piano tuning, he'll like that. Anyway, he came up and threw in some really nice harmonies, and I love doing stuff like that. So you're just like, oh, he can tune pianos, surely he can sing? Well, it happens in that we know he's a good musician as well, he's got a great voice. But we've done that before. I was trying to get the connection. Yeah. Okay, that's a C. Yeah, that could work. He was on our worship team once. Okay. I was going to say, it appears that you need no qualifications in this band. Well, you're going to be there. Yeah, I've already heard, I will be there. I have literally invited people up who've never even heard a song before. I know one time when Julie, she wasn't able to do keys, and we had a perfectly good piano sitting there. And I played it for a few songs, but it was sitting open, and there was a chap from church who I knew we could play.

And I was like, come on up, there's some music. And we had him play live with us in a coffee shop. Fill in. He did really well as well. That's actually how Nancy Pelosi got in office with that very same jacket. I think you're right. I think you're right. Oh, now, see, we don't do political humor here, so I'm going to act like I didn't say that, but it's the first thing that came to mind. I don't know, Daniel. I don't know. I thought I'd let that kind of settle in, the awkwardness of it. Why? I don't know. Hey, I stopped to get some water on the way in here, and Casey's sells this big package of water. It's called Ice Cold To Go, except for it's out on the regular shelf. So it wasn't ice cold. It was not really ice cold. It was like room temperature. Did you get a discount for that? I don't know. I mean, I didn't feel like I was running late, you know, so I didn't really want to argue with her, but I thought, I mean. I'm taking this to go, but I'm not getting the ice cold. Yeah. You're going to be $3.50 for ice cold.

Well, it's $3.99 as it sits, you know. Have you seen those people that wash their car with the windshield washer fluid at the Casey's? Like, you know. Good times are tough. Yeah. Like, you know, you get out there and you wash your windshield, and then you kind of look over, and he's still out there, and he's washing his door. And then you look a little later, and he's washing his wheels with it. Really? Yeah. I've never seen that. Oh, this guy. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it done. And some of them, like, you can tell, don't normally do this. And then some of them are all pros at it, you know? Well, there's nothing to rinse it off with. I mean, I don't know that because I've, like, not washed my car, but I've had, like, a speck. I thought, well, you know, I'll do that. And it's like, it was the worst thing I ever did because then I had this big blurry blob of dirty water that dried dirty. Yeah, it's not the best plan at all. It's not a good plan. No, no. You know, I've done that at a car wash or two. Like, you go try out a new car wash, and you self-wash it, you know, and you're like, man, this thing looks spiffy.

And then you get it home and have a look at it, and it just looks like someone fogged up the entire car, you know? Like, they have, like, a bum degreaser or something. It's very disappointing. I'm not a big fan of it. Ah, yeah. I quit washing my car. Yeah, yeah, I recall that. Julie, since the last time we spoke, are you still underground washing your wheels? Yeah. No. That's a hit or miss, Al. I'm not sure on the, she doesn't have a microphone. I couldn't quite tell what she was saying. She will not confirm nor deny. Hey, okay, I'm going to make up your answer if I don't like it, Julie, since you're not a microphone. Can we seriously set up shop at your place? Oh, sure. At your festival? Of course you can. Of course. Okay. We'll just show up. If you say yes to that, I mean, okay. Yes.

Okay. I was trying to get her a video today, and I called my buddy at Pratt Audio, and I said, hey, what can we do? Ooh. Is that bad? I just figured he knows more than I do. These guys are these. Oh, okay. Well, he didn't help me at all, so. He mentioned the Iowa Cubs and this big monster thing they do, and they said, yeah, that doesn't even work in the sunlight either. I'm like, oh. Because we could show our little clips in between bands. I had a great idea. I had it in the shower. Tim Cooper, can you get us a light cannon? Shower? I don't know. Well, I had my lunch. My shower was actually over lunch, so I was truthful both times. Polonia and Irish Spring. Best. Whoops. Wrong hand.

I knew I shouldn't have said that. I was going to say, this blow, he stepped it up. Did your mom ever do your mouth with soap? My old man did once. Really? I think it's because I said something bad about the Cardinals. I'm pretty sure it's not because I swore. Frickin' frickin'. Good job, son. Cardinals, what? Would they do it with body wash nowadays? Yeah. It would be a lot easier. Little foo-foo thing. I hate to admit it, but I kind of dig that thing. The foo-foo thing? Yeah, it's nice. I've got like 12 in my shower. I won't touch them. Here's the deal. This week, you use it once. I mean, legitimately. My girls would not allow me. No, you scrub it on.

Don't use theirs. Why don't I have a foo-foo? If there's 12, you don't have 12 people in your house. Just choose one. Say, this is dad's foo-foo. I might have exaggerated. There's three. Okay. Well, go pick one up. Use it once, and you tell me that it's not refreshing. Yeah. It's a foo-foo. Do you check your… What do they call those? It's a loofah. A loofah? No. No, a loofah is the stick with the toilet paper in it, and it looks… Yeah. We've got those two. It's got a… It looks like a big toothpick. Or a big cotton swab. No.

Yeah. I've never even been tempted. I've never looked at it and thought, I'd like to go ahead and try that. There's too many dudes on the mic. Loofah? Loofah? Yeah? No? Nobody knows? That's not a loofah that you're talking about. See? I told you. The thing on the stick? No, the thing on the stick is a loofah. No. Stick, toilet paper, pot. No, it's not. So, are you like a loofah in church? We will handle the comedy around here, Cooper. I'll just place this one. You gave me the mic. I didn't see a name tag that said Mr. Funny Man on it. Banned. We've lost two today.

That's it. The whole Spirit Midwest Festival is out. Ooh, gross. Dance Fufu will be full of fur. That's gross, Dad. Who said that? You're wooly. Who said that? I will find them. I'm pretty sure she won't be hard to track down. I would love them in Jesus' name. Very hardly. My fufu's clogged with my back hair. Okay, so does that mean that your back hair is in such poor repair that it falls off instantly? Like, how much is it supposed to come out? Daniel. I mean, I don't moisturize back there. I don't know. It could. That's what the fufu's for. Have you ever heard of this leave-in conditioner? No. Where, like, you wash your hair and then you put conditioner and you just leave it in there? Doesn't that seem kind of gross?

Well, it seems kind of lazy. I mean, you're already in the shower. It does rinse out. Oh, I think it's for a purpose. I believe the leave-in conditioner is… I don't know what it does. Ladies? Do you use… Smells nice? That is? Smells nice? Who's sniffing a dude's hair? Hey, Brian. Bring your head over here. I love what you're doing. I thought I smelled jasmine. Do you dry condition? No one does that anymore, silly. You know, my little brother, when he was about 10, he thought he was hairspraying his hair. He was kind of a slick dude back in the day. And he thought he was putting hairspray in and actually it was like citrus odorizer. And, man, it like second-degree burns on the top of his head. I mean, it was mean. He was in very bad shape for a couple days.

I felt really bad for him. But he was kind of mouthy when he was 10, so I secretly thought it was kind of funny. That's outrageous. Five-minute warning on Tim Cooper and Friends. You guys, you're coming up again in five minutes. Write us along, quick. I didn't discuss any activity, so I thought I'd give you a heads up, but you guys can come up here in about five minutes. Okay. All right. Good, good. And they will be at the Spirit Midwest Music Festival again. And that is happening August 6th and 7th. And it was in the paper that there's going to be sports games there, but there will not be any sports games going on. Yeah, that works. They're going to have sand volleyball. That's right. We do have two really nice sand volleyball courts. So we will have some, you know, people are going to be playing there, but, you know. Can we bring large beach balls to play? It's definitely not a sports festival. That was a little bit off. Well, you could bring a hacky sack, right?

Oh, yeah. It's a hacky, hacky opportunity. Do you find what, if you say it's a sports festival in a park that you tend to rope in disc golfers? Frisbee. Yeah. Yeah, of course. We're going to have a bunch of Frisbee golfers there. Mike, explain to me. It'll be on stage three. Now, if I were to say. Ultimate. Ultimate Frisbee. Okay, so let me try this on you. If I were to say, hey, man. Like, let's say we were just hanging around one more and I said, hey, man, there's a gang of disc golfers coming. What would be the characteristics? Like, what do you think? If you had to describe these folks without seeing them, what would it be? No shirt. All of them? Dudes. Seventeen.

Sandals. Kind of. Well, if it's a hippie, I would say. They can't be doing sandals because that's, like, pretty intense. Yeah. It's intense. One of them has the word. It's like football. One of them has the word intense written on his chest in permanent marker. With N dot tense? Yeah. Hey, wasn't that a joke? What was that joke? Intense. Wow. What was it? Must not have been funny. It's a play on words. It was your joke. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Where did they? Where someone's staying? Yeah.

What was it? Do you know it? Do you know it? Intense? There could be camping there. That's the punchline. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be really great at Halloween. Shoot. I was trying to put one together. Who will, uh… Okay, I got a joke. Ready? Hey, have you heard any jokes lately? Yeah, actually, I heard a good one the other day. Where will they hold the camping at the Spirit Midwest Festival? Where? Intense. Thank you very much. I'll only be here for a short time. This bandana cuts off the circulation in my head. I start slurring my words after an hour and a half. I had my Uncle Bob at the same problem.

He didn't wear a bandana, though. You know what makes people awkward? Or what makes people feel awkward? Is if you go up and just start drooling from the mouth. You figure out how to react to that. The guy's like, hey, how you doing? And then, like, a big dribbly on him. Yeah, because what do they say? Do they tell you? Yeah. And they're thinking about it the whole time. They're not listening to you. Any time my wife's really mad at me, that's what you do right there. It's a total distraction. You shouldn't leave your stuff laying on. What are you doing? Are you okay? Have you ever got in an elevator and turned around and faced the people? That's awkward. That's very awkward. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're all looking like, you know, you just get in and turn the opposite direction and look at them.

Do you try to make eye contact? Absolutely. They won't. They won't maintain. Nobody? Nobody. They won't. It just… Actually, I wouldn't want to do that either. I would assume you're some kind of crazy man. Yeah. What are you looking for? Like the world's decided… You're better a pastor. Do you know Jesus? Yeah. Now that you're in close confines and can't run away, is Jesus your Lord and Savior? This elevator never opens. Do you know where you're going? Trying to get to the lobby. Get the cable with a break right now. Boy, someone's hair smells nice. Oh, is that you? It is me.

So they won't look you in the eye? They won't. Maybe they're children. Try it. They're little people. Dan, you're a giant. Yeah. Maybe they're afraid of you, Dan. Maybe that's what I'm always looking up. We use the big kids. We got accosted by a giant man of Christ. He was in with us in the elevator. The Lord seemed more ruthless than I thought. He's wearing a Hawaiian shirt, Cremia. And his back hair was fallen off by the truckloads. I don't understand him. He was wearing, I do not use a loofah t-shirt. No oompa loompas for me. He was camping. He was intense. And all the way around. All right. You are listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. Again, you can visit livefromthepath.org.

You can sign up for the podcast. You can view archive shows. This one will be on there. You can visit our YouTube channel. Also, we are available via Skype. Our Skype dial-in is Des Moines Amplified, all one word. If you're going to do the Skype, the second hour is probably not going to work for you because we're going to have Vance Lambert. He's coming in on the second hour. We're Skyping with him from Tennessee. Big money. That's big money. We had to pay for this Skype business. Only the best. Yeah. So we're bringing him in via feed from Tennessee, and he's going to perform some tunes. Pretty excited about that. He will also be at the Spirit Midwest Music Festival. Please check out spiritmidwest.com. They can still use some volunteers at the festival. Plenty of good slots still open. Oh, yeah. Plenty of good slots. I saved some really good ones for your listeners. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. You tell them you're from Live from the Path, and if they bring out that orange vest for the parking thing, you say, No, no, no. I'm from Live from the Path. Hey, man, the parking is really good. No, no, no, no. The parking job is terrible. I don't get that. Yeah. Yeah, don't do that. I'm just saying. I don't care. Julie's going to shine it like it's nice, but, I mean, it's parking directed. It can't be any good. I will be parking there, and I'm going to be quarrelsome to you. It's going to be no good. You're going to say, Please park over here, sir. And I say, Well, Jesus is leading me the other way. I say, Who are you to tell me that Jesus didn't say I should park over here? We're going to get a knock-down, drag-out spiritual debate. So don't. You come? Okay. Don't.

I can't get anybody signed up for the parking deal. All right. All right. I'm going to put you on parking. I'll take it. All right. I'm going to turn you over again to Tim. What song are we playing? This one's called With You. This one is called With You. And, again, this is Tim Cooper and Friends right up in the mic. I will be singing, but Jesus is taking the lead. Yes, but you can still. I can't have any camera in your face. From Life for the Path on Des MoinesFly.com, this is Tim Cooper. And Friends. True joy with you in my life. I can dance like David with a piece that passes on. Age redeemed. You breathe. It's Tim Cooper and Friends. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be right back with Vance Lambert. And you are listening to Live from the Path.

A guitar and microphone. Looking for a drummer, bassist, maybe backup singers. Two, three or more. So who's your band? Wish I could somehow figure out what this industry's about. And they forfeit their souls, they say. I think I threw up in my mouth. Just a little bit. A drummer, bassist, maybe backup singers. Two, three or more. And my guitar. Do, do, do, do. Buy my record. So who's your band? Do, do, do, do. Vance. This is not a shameless plug to sell my CD. Oh, sure. They'll be sending me some hate mail. And spill a cocktail. Just Vance. I'm sorry. In my guitar. Do, do, do, do.

Buy my record, please. Do, do, do. Just Vance. So who's your band? Vance, Vance, Vance. And my guitar. Hello? Oh, sure, man. Go now. They don't take that car. Don't leave since today. Leave it all behind. Cause where we going? They don't take that car. Gonna jump that train. That train. Gonna jump that train. Station in the sky. Thanks for hanging over the break. You're listening to Life in the Past on Des Moines Amplified.com. Really big thanks to Tim Cooper and friends. Actually, they're going to hang around the studio. You'll be able to hear them. You may not be able to see them, but you'll be able to hear them.

And they're going to spend some time with us. So we really appreciate that. You guys did a fantastic job. Thank you so much for coming in. And definitely look for them at the Spirit Midwest Festival. You'll be able to get more information on spiritmedwest.com. And it's August 6th and 7th. You know, there is still camping spots available, right? Yeah, although that's filling up pretty fast. And we have these big family lodge buildings where we have rooms that will hold between three and six people. And that building may actually be full. We're over halfway now. Cool. And probably over three quarters filled out there. Okay. Awesome. Well, things are moving right along. I'm coming to that campground. I'm going to make some hobo chili. Ooh. I like the sound of this deal. I don't think you would after I told you what's in it. It's whatever anyone else has left sitting around that I can put the height down. It's dumpster diver chili now.

They don't call it hobo chili anymore. What's the difference between a hobo and a homeless man? Do hobos travel on purpose? It's just not politically correct. Homeless want to be somewhere and they can't quite get it straight now? What is it? Is hobo short for something? Hobomless. Feel free to jump in here if you have anything about this hobo stuff. I don't think they've used that word for a while. Nothing. Nothing. I can't think of anything what it would be short for. For hobo? Yeah. Hobo sapien. Maybe. That's outrageous. It's quite possible. Maybe there was a lot of raggedy people from Hoboken and they shorted it up. Now, you know, if anybody out there is listening and they're from Hoboken, you're in trouble. I said there used to be raggedy people there. Actually, that's the benefit of having a show that nobody listens to. So now you're insulting their grandparents, huh?

Hey, my grandpa was a little ragtag. It's nothing against him. He wasn't from Hoboken. He was certainly not from Hoboken. Yeah. Yes, in Brit, Iowa. I've been there. There's a hobo festival? I've been to that. Yeah, I did the hobo soup and everything. What do you call it? Hobo chili? No, it wasn't chili. It wasn't chili. What did you just say you were going to make? Hobo chili. Oh, chili? Yeah. It's like hobo stew or something. I can't remember what they call it. You know, they put everything in it. It was good. I've never been to a hobo festival. When I was a kid.

Does it cost money to get in? Because that would seem wrong. That was like Mount Pleasant. Is Brit by Mount Pleasant? It's been so many years since I've been there. It's a whole two- No, but it's not by Mount Pleasant. I'm mixing two memories, huh? Yeah, never mind. But I was there. I've been there. There could be more than one. Sometime in the 70s. Now, listen here. Yeah. Does it cost money to get to the hobo festival? No. Can you get in by open boxcar? Oh, yes. Well, that seems the only way to try it. Yes, Boxcar Willie was at the hobo festival in Brit, Iowa. Does he have more than- 1978 when I was there. What was Boxcar Willie's number one tune?

Sorry. Do you know what the one thing I remember from the hobo festival? This has got to be classic. Oh, man. I had to use the outhouse. And that was the first time I'd ever been in one. And I was like, I remember the color. I remember- You're talking of the outhouse, right? I'm talking about the inside of the outhouse. All right. And the, you know, yeah. The division? Just, you look down there, and all I could think of is just like chocolate chip ice cream. Daniel. Oh, my gosh. When you're at an elementary school, you look down and go, oh, that looks like chocolate chip ice cream. Isn't the hole in the outhouse supposed to be like real deep? I don't think it's an actual outhouse. It was like a Kaibo thing. Oh, I was thinking like someone dug a 20-foot hole. Oh, I did that in Wyoming. No, but they had those in Papua New Guinea. I don't know if I ever stood on the outhouse.

Why do they do the moon shape on the door? Oh, I certainly think about that. There's a museum. There's an outhouse museum. To let light in. Well, does it have to be in the shape of a moon? Well, they didn't want to make it big, round, circle. Maybe it was more literal. Well, I mean, you don't have to like stick your face through it like you were posing for a fraudulent picture. But, I mean, I'm sure we could do slats like in the modern-day dressing room. It actually had some meaning. The moon? The moon, yeah, yeah. I just heard about that in the last time of the last year. I'll see what I can find out. There's an outhouse museum, and the guy was on some radio station. He was talking about all this stuff. I certainly hope that's not government-funded. That better be on donation only. You know, I'm pretty sure it probably is. That was a hoboken. It's a hoboken. Anyway, thanks for hanging around. You're listening to Live from Path on Des Moines Amplified.com.

With us via Skype, I like to make out like it's an expensive connection in Tennessee. We have Vance Lambert. Vance, how are you doing? Good, man. Am I supposed to be able to see you guys? Hopefully not. You know, probably not. Probably not. I can see you. You're looking good. We look a lot better on the radio. We do. Actually, he looks pretty cool. We don't look good. Yeah, I'm saying we look better. I'm putting him on. He's way cooler than we're looking. Oh, I bet. So, where are you at right now? It looks like you've got a lot of cool stuff behind you. I'm in my studio slash bedroom. I'm like, hey, is that the pre-soulness fire party you got back there? Good eye. How did you do that?

I can put that out. Ours just broke. I recognize it. Yeah. I'm mourning the loss of it. Are you looking to get rid of it for a reasonable price? Not reasonable price. That's fair enough. For a lonely hobo in Iowa. Just want to make a stew with it. So, actually, Vance and I and Mike actually went to the same high school. We went to Southeast Polk High School. And you are now in Tennessee. Tell me how you got from point A to point B. A car. A lot of events. A really cool event, actually. It was a music seminar. I just went to it and invited my brother-in-law to come with me. And we both ended up getting internships, music internships, with, like, startup or artist development record labels and stuff. And we decided we wanted to live here. What's weird? It was a pretty quick thing, really. I don't know.

I guess because we're young and stupid and can do it. So, we did. That's usually a good reason to do stuff. Oh, yeah. Always. Now, when I tried that, I got community service. The young and stupid saints seem to have worked out for you. And somehow, I really caught the ball. Maybe next time. Officer. Thanks, Vance. I just wanted to be like Vance. Come on, sir. Vance did not graffiti a donkey on the side of a road car. Hey, speaking of graffiti, there was a – I was walking by – I live in Bondurant, and there's a gas station there that's been out of commission for, I don't know, the last three years or whatever. And only in the last two weeks has someone graffitied it. And I can't put my finger on the amateur graffiti artist who, like – they wrote Bondurant on it. And I thought – Oh, they're creative. Seriously. You know, like, it's usually the guy's name or, like, the first thing he saw when he walked up there. He was like, trash can, yeah, you know, like – and he also wrote something fairly offensive about whoever wrote the – whoever, like, used to work at the store. But, like – Did he name specific people?

No, it was a – it was a slur. Oh, I'm with Nick Slur. Got it. Not one I'd heard before. Maybe it wasn't. He's creative. Maybe Bondurant is offensive in that language. I don't know. But I found it odd. Like, we walked by, and someone had, like, written the name of the town on the – I mean, I don't know, if you're going to graffiti something. Like, there's some really cool graffiti artists, right? I mean, they've got some talent who go out to their business. But, like, this guy who just – I think he just found a can of spray paint, and he found a building, and he's like, uh, Bondurant. I'll show them. Dude, are you the guy that tagged Bondurant onto that gas station? Maybe he wanted to practice before he wrote it on his trash can because he thought people were stealing it. Maybe it's – Have you ever graffitied anything? Dan, let me ask you this. Have you ever defaced something in public? I've broken bottles against the grocery store wall. Recently? Seventh grade. Oh.

So not too recently. This would be much more entertaining if you were out in, like, that shirt and a pair of really high-strung shorts, like, throwing bottles against that side of a building. Somebody wrote Bondurant on my new store. Wait, wait, so what did you get in these circumstances to be throwing bottles at the side of a building? Well, while you're in junior high, and we're walking out of the – this was an Ankeny. Wait, hold on a second. Just so you know, we're still looking at you, like, as part of the scene. Like, not you exclusively, so, like, you know, no nose picking or anything. Right. Things I didn't give you a heads up at a time. Not that you would do that. I'm going to do it because I'm off camera, but you have to stay clean. Go ahead, Dan. All right. I'll do my best. Now we're walking out of the grocery store, and someone had left behind, in a brown paper sack, six bottles of beer that were empty. And I was with a friend of mine. We looked at him and thought, well, obviously, if you have bottles, you should break them. I don't know. It's just what you think when you're in junior high. And so we go behind what used to be the drug town store in Ankeny, where 14,000 people previous to us had also broken bottles. So it wasn't like, you know, no one had ever thought of doing that before. And so we started throwing the bottles, and right behind us is the residential area. And some old guy comes running out of us.

Oh, stop! What are you doing? And I'm kind of like, oh, I guess I'll stop. I didn't think I was doing anything bad. I was just breaking bottles where everybody else does it. And my friend takes off. He's down the street. And the guy called the police. So I sat there, and the police showed up and got in the back of the car, and he's taking all my information. And finally, my friend kind of started sheepishly coming back. He probably thought I was going to rat on him or something. I thought he used to turn himself in? Yeah, he used to turn himself in. Did you find the back of the police officer's car very comfortable? It was, you know, just like any car. You can't get out. I was a little freaked out by the big rifle in the front seat, you know. I was just like, well, I hope he doesn't use that on me. But, you know, he was pretty nice, and he's kind of like, you know, that's not a good idea. Well, apparently not. I guess not. It just looked like everybody else did it. I just thought, you know, why not? It just added more color, more sparkles.

What were the repercussions for this episode? The worst thing possible. I wish he could have thrown me in jail. It would have been kind of a fun experience. You know, a lot of things. He could have been handcuffed. Like, I said, yeah, I've been handcuffed. Didn't do that. I had to go home and tell my mom to call the police station to tell them what I had done. And the worst thing in the world is to go tell your mom, you know, at 1030 at night. I don't know what time. Maybe it was the afternoon. I don't remember. It was daytime. Anyway, to go tell your mom, you know, you've got to call the police station in 45 minutes, or they're coming to get you. And, yeah, my mom was not in a good mood after that. Probably not. A little grumpy. Mike, you do everything public defacement of property? I'm pretty sure I have. I don't recall anything right off the bat. That's right. Jesus loves you on the bridge.

I did paint handicapped. I did label parking lot lines, you know, that weren't handicapped. I made them handicapped stalls, like a lot of them. Okay, hey, that counts. What do you mean, I can't think of anything? That totally counts. Well, apart from that. You've vandalized the handicapped spots. Like a can of spray paint? You just made, like, a wheelchair symbol? A lot of them, yeah. Like, let's say there's normally 10 balls and 200. I made, like, 100 of them. I want to see the guy who pulls up and is like, I don't think I should park here now. It's obviously some kid. Well, one of them looks like ZZ Top. You know what I mean? It starts to get pretty obvious that this is not on the up and up. When there's some kind of wheelchair guy who didn't do that. You didn't draw a ZZ Top in the handy spot. Well, I'm thinking if one of them did. Oh, okay. I'm sure it wasn't professional. Vance, are you guilty of any public defacement?

Absolutely not. Okay. I didn't figure it out. No. No, I was just thinking. I don't know. I got nothing. I got nothing. You need some street cred. That's good. Come on. That's true, Daniel. Nothing like breaking bottles behind the drug town. Put you away in the heart of society. Ask my mom. I was a good kid. Does she have a Skype name? Is she awake? We'll find out. It's even better if she's not awake. She's more likely to tell the truth. Yeah, yeah, whatever, you know. Yeah, he did this. Go to bed.

Bands. By the way, you're supposed to call the police department. You'll probably do a better impression for her than I do. Please forgive me for that bad impression, everybody. I'm sure she doesn't talk like a man. So you have a CD, a new CD. I know you have a couple CDs, but you've just released one real recently, correct? Yeah, it just came out really for the Spirit Midwest Festival. I pretty much made the CD for the festival. Very cool. We actually made the festival for Vance, too. Yeah, right. And I just want to officially say I better hear just Vance while I'm there. Ooh. Done. It's done. He'll pay the piper on that one. He's going to do it. Hey, have you got a lot of positive reaction for that video, huh? I mean, you've got a ton of hits on that deal. I know. What's everybody on, really? I don't know. Hey, I emailed it out to about 1,500 people.

You're the one. I emailed it out. Along with some jet fuel, and everyone seems to be feeling all right. Just have some jet fuel with this. It'll be great. Where's that Joyce Vance video? Yeah. I didn't realize Lady Gaga had a beard. I can dig on it, though. I love the hat. That was a lot of fun to make, and it's really fun to see what people say about it, too. Yeah. If you go to VanceLambert.com, you can also check out. He's got another parody video out there for Waiting for My Flight, which is also funny. Yes. Also a very funny video. In fact, if we catch a break, I might show it. We'll see. But it's also a good video. In fact, Vance is a beard of all trades. I mean, he's got some design work that he does. If you go to VanceLambert.com, he's got links to all that stuff. He's got a lot of cool stuff. I thought the cover for the CD, Sophisticated Morons, the CD, right?

Yeah. Is that right? Thanks. I thought the cover was really cool looking. You did that, right? Mm-hmm. I'm glad you did, because if you hadn't and I set it up like that, I would have been pretty embarrassing. I agree. I'm glad you did it. I got your back. It's all good. So where did you record the CD at? In my studio. Right there. You did all that. My professional studio. You guys can't see that. I'm the only guy that can see the inside Vance studio. It's pretty cool. He's got a pair of undies and a lamp back there. But other than that, it's pretty nice. Someone vandalized his wall with a wheel, though. Or is that a clock? What is that?

I vandalized it, yes. That song didn't go well, huh? It went plastic, yes. Well, I tell you what, we're actually about ready. Can you play something off your new CD for us? I can. Wow. Time is flying. I know. Yeah. All right. He's going to pull some stuff up again. This is Vance Lambert. He's going to be at the Spirit Midwest Music Festival. I think he's got a couple of slots. Yep. He's Friday night and Saturday night. Yeah. So he kicks off the festival. She's 5 o'clock on Friday, right? I'm pretty sure that skates us out. Yes. Vance, I'm ditching out of work early to catch this 5 o'clock set. He gets to open and close.

Because, like I said, we made the festival for Vance. He opens on Friday, closes on Friday. That means he's going to be the last one in the parking lot. And we're going to have to wait for him because we're running the traffic. Turn left. And we're going to be very annoyed at Vance. Come on, dude. Pull it together. Thanks for that, Julie. That's awesome. You're just Vance. I mean, I totally am. Dr. Hollywood here. Get out. All right. All right. So what are you going to be playing for us? It's the first track on the CD, Sophisticated Moron. It's called Love, Love, Love. Awesome. Yeah. It's really creative, I know. I'm excited about it. Actually, I think on the CD, it's got the love with the three.

The backwards as a three. Yes, because I'm gangster. Right. Gangster. They use numbers for letters. See you, Dad. And you were questioning the street. He's got a wheel on the wall. He's got numbers in the name of the tunes. All right. You're in. He's downtown. That's okay. They kicked me out a long time ago. All right. This is Vance Lambert. You are on Live from the Path. And this is Love, Love, Love, or the street version, Love with three fingers up. Take it away, Vance. All right, man. I'm putting a pad on this microphone, so the levels might change a little bit for you. I'm ready for it. Thanks, man. Is that good for you?

That's awesome. All right. Thanks, man. Here we go. It's out tomorrow to see what will be. Yesterday's borrow. The day. Make it right. Just a bit more time. Soon. I can show you. Hard act to follow. Lingering sorrows. From words that came out. I can say. We are the same. Tonight. Try with all. My mind. I can show you. Can't give her my last dance. A sweet. Very nice. Thanks.

Very, very nice. What, uh, are you allowed to share the inspiration behind that one? I have to talk to my manager. Okay, cool. Cool. No, of course I can. Got to be gangster, you know? I thought maybe it was, it could have been off like a brand of butter or something you have called love, love, love, butter in Tennessee. Oh, you didn't want to say that. Right, right. No, it's, um, it's, it's about a relationship. But it's looking at it from a, from a godly perspective, uh, of course. But it's basically just that the part of the chorus that really, I feel like sums up the song is that love is like always the answer. It's always what's needed to conquer. But it's also like, ironically, it's never enough. You can never give it enough, I guess. Um, it's always in high demand, but you can't overdo it, I guess. Probably the best way to say that. Very much like my self-portrait that I drew. Right, it just, you can never do, draw too much. I don't think it's really in demand, though. Well, it could be.

I'm trying to spread the word right now. I'm trying to pick it up. What if I include love with every purchase? Then would you be interested? It might help, it might help. You say it doesn't stand on its own feet, Leverk? I can't see you. All I see is my ugly mug. Well, trust me, it's, it's, you're not missing much. Thanks, guys, again, for coming here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're, yeah, we're excited. I'm glad you can make it. The chat has been, uh, Con's been using your name on the chat for weeks, and we thought, well, we're going to have to have you on here. Otherwise, we're, uh, we're absconding with your good name and using it for various purposes. Actually, he kept it clean. What? What are you looking at me? I didn't say nothing. What are you looking at me funny? I'm trying to decide if this self-portrait thing is going to work out. No, I would let it go.

All right. You better drop it. Let's call it. What, um, uh, Vance, do you mind, uh, talking a little bit about your, um, your walk with Christ, like how you, um, how you came to follow Jesus? Sure. Um, it's, uh, not, not as exciting, I, I, I don't think, as, as so many, so many stories I've heard, but, but it's still, still awesome nonetheless because, because, uh, God's grace is amazing no matter, no matter what, you know, anyone who will accept it, it's, it's awesome. And, uh, oh, I don't know, for, for me, I guess, um, grew up in the church, you know, like, like a lot of people, um, that's probably about 14, 14 or so. Um, it, it became something that I kind of realized that I was just doing the motions, you know, which happens to a lot of church kids. Yep. Um, but yeah, you know, like when you go to summer camps and, and youth rallies or, you know, a really good Sunday at church, you're all like hyped up, pumped up. Um, you know, that, that was like kind of my Christianity, you know, before 14 is like that, that was what I thought being a Christian was, was, you know, getting all excited for God and rah, rah. Yeah. And then you come home and, and it just kind of slowly, you know, wears off. Like, you know, it's not meant to, you're, you're supposed to have a relationship with God every day and it's supposed to be an intimate relationship.

And did, did you know Mike and Ben in high school? Um, yeah. And, uh, you know, we hang out. I was wondering if they may be, made God little leak a little bit out of you. What are you trying to say, Daniel? You're a drain. That's true. You're a drain on people. What I remember, those guys, they're, they're always in the band room, uh, playing the piano or the bass or. Did you guys all do marching band together? Uh, yeah, for a short while. I'd like to see photos. I look good. I didn't mean to interrupt your Jesus story, but I just wondered if. Yeah, once again, another. This is much more exciting. Another poignant interview. Let's talk about something important like the, the hats you were in band. Yeah. They were cooler than you were thinking. In fact, I'm pretty sure if you saw one, you would buy it directly. Thinking you could pull it off. Yeah.

They even had, uh, as a flutist, they had you wear, um, bracelets that had music stands on them. They look like, uh, they look like arthritis armbands, except for with the, uh. Yeah. They had names for those, too. Well, you can continue your Jesus story. I just wondered if Mike and Ben was maybe a drag on your faith. Actually, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's, I would say that, that, uh, and I could wait for the full story, but, um, I think, uh, Vance's story very much mirrors mine, um, to, to the extent that I, and I think Mike would say the same thing. You grew up in the church and, you know, you knew what you knew. And I, you know, I believe there was a God there, but I, I did not have the relationship. Um, you probably couldn't have picked me out as someone that was following Christ. Cause at the time I probably wasn't, I was probably hearing God. I was hearing of God and I believed it. And I, you know, I knew where, where my lines were. Um, but yeah, I don't think the relationship, uh, was there. Yeah. And it, it just, you know, maybe it's, maybe it's the age thing or whatever, but like at 14, it's, it became a reality that, you know, I can't, I can't live my life without having a relationship with the one who created me and, um, you know, going to church and saying things doesn't, it, you're still empty basically. So, um, yeah, I think, you know, I think actually that's, that's, that's probably the, um, that's probably the grand story. I mean, I think, I think a lot of people feel that way, um, that are raised in the church.

And I think a lot of, a lot of times that's, um, that's because I think the church sets the wrong expectation. Um, you know, like the, the church doesn't, doesn't inspire you to, um, you know, to seek that relationship. Um, a lot of times when you're younger, you, you, you learn the, you learn the show. Yeah. Yeah. I get my smile and I say the right stuff and I can, I can't, or, or yes or no. I mean, I can believe, but as long as I look like I do, I'll fit in. Well, and you don't, which is, yeah, you don't, you don't notice that. You don't notice like, um, where you're at until, until that point in which you get that relationship and then, and then it becomes obvious, you know, and it, and it, it almost feels like, you know, how did I, uh, how did I even travel that? How was I even doing that? I think we pressure people to. As a church? The church does. Yeah. I think that's why we really tried to create pathway differently, but this isn't a pathway thing. I'm just saying, because I've seen that so much, we pressure people to, to fake it, whether you really believe it or not. Yeah. That was very true in high school.

I felt like. Isn't that a theology? Fake it till you make it? Yes. I mean, I heard that when, when I first got saved, yeah, I, it was maybe, I don't know, 18 years ago and the church I was in, I was in a discipleship class and they said, you know, well, you just fake it till you make it. Wow. They said that. I don't know about all that. Wow. I might work for like breaking a habit or something, but I don't know. Huh? Yeah. That's kind of frightening to be honest. Well, you know, and I think, you know, it's sometimes, I think how you get that way is it's easier, it's easier to what we think of as bring faith to the masses. If you start categorizing it, chopping it up into books, lessons, things I remember, you know, things I have to memorize, things I should know, you know, and I, you know, and slowly I'm progressing. It's much harder to, to earnestly approach someone, um, and have them understand the relationship that you can have with Jesus Christ and the type of relationship that he wants with you. Um, and you, you know, getting that across for where someone has a, so has a, something

they can grasp and say, all right, what can I do with this? And, you know, the problem is, is it still is simple. We've, we've complicated that. I mean, yeah, here's this great thing. And you say, well, how can I do this? We'll just start talking to God, you know, but there's a lot of things that have kind of built into that. Maybe man's way to try to, you know, package it and, and send it out. Unfortunately, we're missing the point before we got in the box. And, um, and I mean, you know, that's something that I think if you could, it's not ill, people aren't doing that on purpose. I don't think they did it with intention. They didn't say, you know, I want to package Jesus and send him out. They, they, they're very much under the impression that, you know, I'm reaching people out for God, but you know, are they, are they getting God? Are they just getting information about God? And there's a significant difference there. And that's a tough thing to realize. Um, but once you realize that you have a, you know, you just have the world in front of you, God's world that he's given you that, that you, you can see now, um, because of that relationship. So, yeah, the church definitely makes a, you know, if you could be that good of an actor, it, it makes it like an unattainable goal that people see. Yeah.

So they just want to bash it, you know? Exactly. Yeah. Actually, you know, it was weird. There's, um, uh, I had a conversation with somebody at work today and it had to do with, um, the, the, the, the Christians that were around them. Um, this, this, this person, not, not the person at work, but their, their spouse actually, uh, does not have a relationship with Christ and is very, um, um, skeptical of the whole thing. He actually can't stand it. Um, you know, and some of the, the examples, the Christian examples that he knows, you know, aren't even come close to hitting the bar. And, and here's the thing, we're not going to hit the bar because you're not perfect. Um, but I mean, there's a difference. There's just not hitting the bar and there's, uh, and, and seeking and really trying like, like you, you can tell when someone is seeking the spirit and following Christ, uh, and sometimes failing, um, versus, you know, going through the motions. And, and what, what he sees is probably an accurate picture of, of, of some of those, um, uh, of some of the, what's produced from what we were talking about earlier, which is people that are going through the motions as you can't, you know, like I said, I think you can recognize people that really earnestly believe what they, what they're in. And there are people who, who are just going through it and they don't realize they're going through it. They feel like this is it, you know, and it's tough to express that to them.

But, you know, without that example, um, you know, it's tough to go anywhere with it. Um, and, and, you know, if, if that's not the example someone's seeing, you know, it's not, it's not just, you know, you, you, that you're affecting the internal consequences of the people that are around you. And that's, that's your witness is going through the motions. It's pretty easy for someone to walk away from that. I would, if I saw, if I thought, you know, my overriding philosophy of the world, um, and how it was created and the, and the savior that I follow, um, is to produce people going through the motions. I could see how someone couldn't get on board with that. You know, that's, that's not something I'm signing up for. People are hungry for a genuine faith and, and to know how to have one, you know, not just the litmus test. Well, if you say the right words or don't say the wrong words or read the right t-shirt and, and carry the right Bible. I mean, that stuff's, I mean, you know, we don't get people permission to fail and to grow and to struggle and, and to, to really work through their faith. We just say here, just do this and, you know, you know, do this stuff and don't do that stuff. And, and you're in, you know, and, and it's like, what's that mean? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Well, and you know, it was weird. I was, um, like, it's not weird.

I was praying on the way in. Um, usually do that because our, uh, our show could derail at any moment. And so there's constant solicitation that this be for the glory of God and not us, uh, cause, cause we'll take it the wrong direction. That's, that's definitely true. Like what happened earlier. Yeah. I mean, if you were on the show earlier, uh, so, uh, but, but actually one of the things that stuck out is, is, is I guess just to make it clear this, this show and what we're hoping to provide here is, is for God's glory. Um, and you know, if you're listening, for some reason it was, um, I felt like heaviness or weight is what was on my mind. And, um, and the thought of, of just taking a step, um, you know, if you're, if you're feeling like there's something that is burdening you, like, like you're carrying something around. The thing is, it's not going to go away on its own. And as much as you try to get rid of things like that, that you feel like are dragging on your life. Um, if you're going out from the perspective that you can do something about it, it's always going to be there and it's getting more and more frustrating, um, because it's never going to go away. So the, I guess if it's, um, if it helps at all, if there's anybody struggling with something and you're really feeling like, um, you're being weighed down or, you know, the world's pressuring you or you're feeling guilty about something, um, take the opportunity and do it right now.

Just let it go, you know, give it to God and be done with it. If you, if you give it to him, he's done with it. You might as well be done with it. I don't know who you are to carry around something that the God of the universe says, I'm done with. All right. So, um, you know, give it up. And then I like to, I would like to recommend like something physical to do. So if you, like, if you do that, stand up and take a step, take a lighter step. Okay. Because, um, I think kind of what happens is you get this mental image of, I gave it up to God and then I'm going to give it up to God. And then maybe you do, maybe you don't. Um, but you didn't live that. You just, you thought it and it's gone for God, but sometimes it needs to be physical for you. So, you know, if you're feeling it at all, um, I pray on it, give it up and then just take, stand up and take a step, a single step, a lighter step than you had when you didn't, then when you walked to the chair that you're in, then when you sat down in the chair that you're in, then what you've been sitting with, why you've been listening to the show and give that a go. So I, whatever it's God said, you know, that's what I got. I could be completely off, who knows, but give that a shot. That all sounds pretty reasonable though.

Yeah. Yeah. I liked it. Okay. Good. Good. I don't like to put words in God's mouth, but I, you know, why I was praying. It's, I don't know. Hey man, I've done that. I've carried some stuff around and let the Lord take it. I wonder why I was a fool for so long carrying around with me. I've done that. Addiction sucks. Yeah. And it's, you know, that's the worst part is addiction to the thought that your sin is dragging behind you, you know, like unwilling to release to God, knowing that it's not, it's gone and you gave it to him and he's, he's done with it. You stop. Now this is on you. You know better. And, you know, who knows why you're trying to carry that around. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't do guilt. He does rule punishment and he does forgiveness. There's not much for guilt, you know, he's here's, here's what you did.

I can't tolerate it, but I can forgive it, you know, and there's, you know, we look for, we look for, we, we, humans, we're terrible at that. We deal in guilt. We deal in, you know, I did it and I can't make it go away, but I can feel guilty about it if that makes you feel better. And that's what we pacify people by feeling guilty. And, uh, and we, we neglect to realize that God doesn't deal in that. He deals in clean breaks. He deals in, I identify that as sin and I won't tolerate it, but he, uh, you give me that sin and I'll, it's gone. You know, he doesn't do the guilt. He doesn't do the middle ground. He, we don't bargain with God with our feelings, uh, to try to pacify him. He's, he's made it very clear what he wants and all he wants is you to turn it over. So, exactly. There you are. And there you are. And there you are. What were you doing, Mike? What was going on? Some dude was at the door and he wanted to, uh, promote, he feeds the homeless, apparently down at Nolan Plaza. Yeah. And, uh, he wanted to, uh, to talk about it on the radio.

Oh. And so, uh, uh, I took his information. Maybe we'll have him on next week. Okay. He just, did he come down here? Well, he just wandered in the, yeah, I don't know. I'm going to talk to him. Uh, I, cause I asked him for his information and he gave me a piece of paper and then had me copy it cause he didn't have two copies. So, I, I don't know. I don't know. I think we're going to have him on either way. Okay. Sounds good. I don't know what to make of it either way. I like the sound of this deal. Yeah. Yeah. Shall I bring, nevermind. No, no, no. It sounds on the up and up. We'll bring, uh. I want, I want a song, uh, next, by, by the, by the festival called Addiction Sucks. I think that was a pretty cool title of the song.

Can you do that? Sounds like, like a rock album to me. Yeah, absolutely. That should be an opener to the, the festival. Can, can you do that? Addiction Sucks. I don't ask for much, but just that. Actually, the word sucks in a, in a song is very difficult. It is, it is difficult. Who was it? Kelly Clarkson did a song, uh, My Life Would Suck Without You, and it was very awkward to hear it in the tune. It is. I don't think the word can really be used. Well, it's hard to rhyme with. Duck. Yeah. It doesn't, yeah. Schmuck. It just sounds childish. It does. It does, kinda. Yeah. It's, it's like having the word stinky.

You don't have to rhyme with it. It's stinky. Although, I will submit, uh, uh, Vance did use the word poo in that, uh, he said, it smells like poo in that, uh, waiting for a flight. Which is very childish. Yeah. I was tickled by it. I don't know what to say. I do like the word poo. Who wouldn't? A 26-year-old guy writes a song and has the word poo in it. What do we, now wait, did you write the second line first, or did you need something to, to rhyme with the, the ooh? You know, that, that, that old song came to me in like 10 minutes, so I, I don't know. It all came at the same time. Okay. Fair enough. I'm gonna have to play it. Yeah, probably. I'm not gonna have a choice but to play it. So before we kick off your last two, and I'll, we'll swing into that one now that I've made such a big hoot about it. So what's… Everyone's so anxious.

Um, uh, you also had some, uh, did, did you write most of the tunes, or did you, like, are all the tunes originals on your, uh, new CD? Um, eight, eight of them are original. Um, the ninth one is a, uh, a cover of a Beatles song, uh, called Blackbird, and, uh, then there's three spoof songs after that, so. All right. What's the, uh, so we talked about just Vance and the, uh, uh, Waiting for My Flight. What's the third one? Um, it's, it's, uh, it's called We Are Girl Scouts, and it's to the, it's to the tune of, uh, Queens, We Will Rock You. Oh, awesome. It's, it's performed by girls, real girl scouts. You, you solicited, you got real girl scouts in there to come do this? A troop, a troop. Into your, into your studio? Uh, no, this was in Des Moines. Uh, it was an older recording, but I, uh, yeah, I, I got a girl scout troop to play the instruments and sing the song. They're, they're seven to nine years old. I've never seen Dan Hudson so happy. He is very excited about this girl scout too. Oh. I got, I got free cookies. I gotta tell you, there must be cookies involved somewhere.

There is. That was my payment. Is that what it takes? We can get some girl scouts in here. Actually, that's not gonna work. We can come on a radio show at 10 to midnight. Yeah. Yeah. That's not gonna work. Hey, hey Vance, are you married? Negative. Someone just texted me, they're asking, that's all I'm, that's really all I got to say. Well, this is going very well. Can we arrange a little Skype date? Make sure it's not my mother. That would be awkward indeed. Yes, it would. But she's always pressuring for you to find a, a lady friend? Is she getting, is she getting nervous? No. No, she's not. Okay. Not yet. Do you use leave-in conditioner?

No, I don't. Yeah, see. Do you do those foo-foo things in the shower? Yeah. Are, are you, are, like, what, that's the, the scrub, the scrub scrubby or your standard bar soap? Uh, standard bar soap. Yes. I've switched your soap. Yeah, I don't do that girly stuff. It's nice to hear a man once in a while. We've lost men. This whole generation, they're, they're gone. That scrubby does a good job. I, I came in a grumpy mood tonight because I was watching some stupid TV show. This guy going, I was like, come. Now, listen, Dan, it's not the world's fault that you watch some kind of goofy clown show before you come to the radio station. My family was glad I left the house tonight. I was like, what happened to men? There's no men anymore. Anyway, that's my, what's, what's a good definition for you? Burl Ives? What?

Burl Ives was manly. Yeah, I agree. Oh, is that a person? Oh, come on, Daniel. Dan, he's well known. I'm, I'm the guy, I'm the guy you don't want on the trivia game. He's saying, uh, he was the snowman on the, on the Christmas, uh, reindeer movie. Holy Dolly Christmas. That snowman was not a real man. No, apparently not. Sorry to break it to you. No? No, he wasn't. He did wear a vest and no pants. That doesn't sound very manly. Sounds kind of creepy. Well, how about Jimmy Durante? Yeah. I, cha, cha, cha, cha. I, does he have any other? Well, you just blew that one, too. Was that not how he does it? I, cha, cha, cha, cha. Julie, do you do a Jimmy Durante?

Uh, no. Fire it up. Tim Cooper, you look like a man who does a Jimmy Durante. I've never heard of him. He's never heard of Jimmy Durante. Vance, do you do a Jimmy Durante? Say what? Thank you. Do you actually, in general. Would you call me? Do you do any impressions at all? Like, do you do any voices? Um, maybe, uh, Butthead from Beavis and Butthead. Not that I've ever watched that show. No, of course not. No, no. Dan, have you seen that one? Actually, no. No. And I, that was like my era. And I was just like, I would not watch the filth. Satanic. I watched it at my old man's house. See?

My mom would be loud. I told you, I knew it. I didn't tell anybody I watched it. I was the guy who, when, you know, like, I just, I don't know 80s music, although I was like an 80s guy. That's when I, you know, went to high school and everything. Uh, because, uh, because, um, it, it just, it grieved me. I just would hear this stuff and, oh, we're going to have sex with everybody. Woo-hoo! And I'd be just like, man, you don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're getting into. And, uh, I, you know, I listened to, you know, Amy Grant, Mike W. Smith, and Second Chapter of Acts. The cool music. The cool music. Is that a name of a band, Second Chapter of Acts? Oh. Now am I on the wrong end of the popularity spectrum? Well, it looks like things have changed. Matthew Ward? You don't know Matthew Ward? No. Oh, dude. I've never lived.

Oh, you have not lived. Oh, man. Now I feel terrible. Will he come in the studio? Is he has been? Can we get an 80s hands-man in here? We can't get any. That's how Daniel got the door. I think you've got one. I ran into the lead singer of Petra here in Nashville. Yeah, Petra. I went to a Petra concert. Which one? John? Yeah, John. Yeah. We were actually going to have John at the festival this year. Can you get Matthew Ward? I'm pretty sure he's going to. I think his voice is probably pretty ragged. It's been a few years. He was, man. Got to YouTube him. He was a point for him.

He was here recently. Oh. He didn't even call me. Yeah. You were. I don't know what you were doing. Anyway. I was probably out helping homeless people. Yeah, no doubt. Maybe. But maybe you were making your homemade pair of jean shorts and you cut them a little too short and couldn't leave the house out. I think I can leave. Ain't that the worst feeling? You ever done that? Your two cuts past the tan line? Yeah. You're going to make yourself a pair of shorts and you cut them off. You're like, yeah. I'm pretty sure I've never done that. These are awesome. And then you put them on and you go, oh, man. These are way too scandalous. I can't even wear these in my own house.

I've done that. Real men wear short shorts. Seriously, I've done that with the t-shirts where you cut the sleeves off because today's the man day and I'm going to break out the guns and I've done it all crooked and stuff and it looks like I stole it from somebody. Actually, I always miscut the gun shirts and so the armpit seam comes out so it's like way down to the side of your belly. Yeah. That does not look manly. It's not like street hustler basketball cool. It's like dude mowing his lawn cool. You know what? That's not cool. No, no. There's very few people that look cool cutting the grass. I look pretty good. I'm pretty sure Burl Ives was good at it, but since his day has come and gone. I've never seen a video of myself cutting the grass. Have you got a lawn where you're at, Vance Lambert? No, I live in an apartment building. You don't have to do your own lawn care. Do you have to sweep your own doorstep at the least? Nope. Somebody does that too.

Do you have a welcome mat? Nope. Would you like to buy one? Nobody's welcome. Do you have a little message boards on your door where people can leave notes? Like a dorm room? It's like a safety pin that you can clip something on. Do people have to be buzzed into your apartment complex or can they just walk in? We are a gated community. No doubt. Yeah. We're at real deal. Yeah. Now, is that to keep people in or keep people out? Are you under the watch of the law for some reason? Kind of a Hotel California thing? He can't say, but his mother would know. Suspiciously not in studio, Vance Lambert in his gated apartment. He's stuck in Tennessee. A.K.A. Penitentiary. I told you it was Nashville. It's actually Mitchellville. Please, Ward, just let me borrow the musical equipment for one night. What else you got going on after the Spirit Midwest Festival?

Any other gigs coming up? Or any other work that you're up to? Any other work? You know, my last CD was like 2008, which is a long time for me. For this festival, I've been writing songs ever since, but I've really been the last three months just trying to put everything together and then practicing really hard. So, yeah, I'm pretty much after Spirit Midwest. I'll be ready for a week to do nothing. He's going to chill for a whole week. Week. A week. Yeah, and then I'm back on it. And he's going to hit that hard. Hit the pavement. You know, I've tried that chillin' for a week, and it seems to extend itself to months on end. I don't have that problem. And then they call you a drain on society, and I'm like, look, Mom, I'm doing the best I can. 27 years. What do you want from me? I just got out of the penitentiary. I'm trying to feed homeless people. All they gave me was a… I'm a workaholic. I don't have that problem. Do you sell shirts?

Do I sell shirts? Do you have Vance Lambert shirts? I think I have a few, but… That's pretty egotistical of you. You designed them yourself? I should put myself on a shirt. It's not my face. Okay. Well, I kind of feel bad. I was going to have shirts made of myself, but apparently it's not gone well for Vance. He actually just done something with his life. It's okay to have shirts as long as you don't wear them. That's true. You know, if you're in a band, never wear… The band shirt. I'm cool. I mean, if you're going to, just do it at home so nobody can see you. I can rock out at home. You know, they're for fans. You know, fans wear your shirt. What if you don't have any fans? You know what you can do with all the shirts, Vance? Yeah. Homeless.

That's what you need. A bunch of homeless people wear your shirt. Pre-advertising. Give them to the guys who's going to be coming in. A group of homeless people now becomes called a gang of Vances. We're all wearing the Vance shirts. Oh, yeah. We'd have matching hobos on the next turn. Matching Vance. That's right. Look at those clean-cut hobos. Now I'm going to pick them up and bring them to the festival. There's going to be 15 homeless dudes wearing Vance Lever t-shirts hanging out at the front stage. Now I've got to have one. What's on these shirts? Can you get them from your website? No, actually. Only. They're exclusive. I'm going to have to get one. Can we sell them at our stand? How fast can you run? Pretty fast. I guess it depends on who's on the merch table, huh?

What do you mean? Are you going to hustle them? What are you trying to suggest? I'm not suggesting. I'm just asking questions. I'm taking notes. Yeah, but what do you imply by how fast can you run? Are you saying that Vance is going to chase you after you steal it, or you're going to run him down and take one? No, I'm going to take one when he's not looking. I need a head start. He's wearing it. He's still going to notice. He might notice if he's wearing it. He's not going to wear his own shirt. I'll give you one of my shirts, and you give me one of yours. We actually have people at the festival. They're called security. They are professional trippers. Professional what? Trippers. It's better than strippers, which I thought you said. I've heard about those police-dressed strippers. That's in the Spirit Midwest Festival. 40-plus Christian vans.

That's a different stage. And the parking lot will be Dan Hudson, who is not allowed to run security. And apparently wants to accost the axe. You've been a little naughty. All right, Dan. That's a whole different festival. You've been listening to life in the past. We've been talking with Vance. It says Vance M. Lambert. What's the middle initial? Michael. You just said it. I was hoping for Morris. Not that I'm disappointed with Michael, but Morris is one of the people. My dad's name. That's my dad's name. Your dad's name is Morris or Michael? Michael. That's a solid name. I don't see anything wrong with that at all. Hey, you want to go 50-50 with me on some t-shirts? You mean like swap? No, no. See, my name is also Michael.

And so if I'm going to buy Michael t-shirts, and your name is also partially Michael, I mean, we go have these and get some printed up. And then I can claim I'm wearing your shirt, and you claim that you're not promoting your own self. Sounds like a plan. I'm not getting a good vibe out of this. You talk about wearing your own shirt. No, you can't wear a shirt with your face on it that says Vance Lambert. I agree. That's cheesy. I see, but what if you said not Vance? Would that be all right? Not Vance? Yeah. That's like a… Yeah, like you're… Well, then he'd be lying. Yeah. It depends on how funny it is, you know? Yeah, you're your own counterculture. Maybe with the question mark. You're against what you stand for. Not Vance? Anti.

I'm not mean. Just Vance. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's good. What about socks? Maybe with personalized socks. Maybe that's the way to go. Have you ever… See the gateway. Have you ever had anything personalized, Dan, with like your name on it or something? Bowling shirt? Shoes? Ha ha ha ha ha. Pencils? Uh, clothing? Hmm. I made a personalized shirt with my face on it that I sent to a friend of my daughter's at college. It says I love Danielle's dad. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I assume you to be Danielle's dad? Yes. I've put it all together.

Ha ha ha ha. Now I get it. I tell you what, we're going… Again, we've been speaking with Vance Lambert. You can find information about him on VanceLambert.com, his new CD, Sophisticated Moron. Uh, you can listen to, uh, several of the cuts out there, uh, on his website. Uh, it sounds great. I would, uh, encourage you to go pick it up. Also, he will be at the Spirit Midwest Festival. Um, he's opening the, uh, open the festival at five o'clock on Friday. So, uh, get there, uh, get there early and be happy about it. And, uh, I tell you what, we're going to watch, because we talked about it, we'll watch that Waiting for My Flight, uh, spoofed by Vance. We'll, we'll play that, and then we're going to bring it back on. He's going to play us one more song to, uh, to tuck out the evening. So, uh, we're going to go ahead and get this rolling. Uh, Vance, uh, not to bring up technical things on the air, but, uh, my audio for the computer is on your audio deal. So, if you make any noise, we will hear it. Okay. Okay. So, it's okay to talk, but we can hear it. Okay. Okay.

It'd be kind of like a director's cut, though, and this is when I really hit it. Yeah. Things are rolling. But I was really trying to say here, but… You can see it. The play sounds cool, but I made it myself. Take a stream, the extra fee, say at least I bought me dinner first. Now to pack my batch of drag, and don't forget about the manners. Nashville to Dallas, Detroit to L.A., Phoenix to Denver, they all work the same. Two cases, shuttles, and parking valet. Why is there no idea waiting for my flight? Chicken and cheese. It was greasy. I guess my hair will not be silky smooth. It's just through my guitar. When I get back here, I'm keying his cutting on airplanes is oh so much fun. The old lady thinks I'm in the sun waiting for my flight. A hundred bucks for a TV tray. One can of soda and Frida Olay's. Next time you find yourself flying solo, remember Vila told you so. Waiting for my flight. Falling asleep on my arm. Waiting for my flight. I chose to drive waiting for my flight.

I chose to drive for my flight. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. That was Waiting for My Flight by Vance. Vance, that's pretty cool. Thank you. Real-life experience right there. Yeah. Where'd you go? There we are. Okay, so we're ready. You have been listening to Live from the Path on DesboeanAmplified.com. We've been in studio with Vance Lambert. In the first hour, we were able to spend some quality time with Tim Cooper and friends. They did a fantastic job. Their performances will be up on our website probably within the next day or two, also on the YouTube channel. So keep an eye out for that. Thank you very much for coming in. Vance has been on the second hour. He's going to lead us out with one other tune. Again, you can find links to our archive shows on LiveFromThePath.org. You can also sign up for the podcast. I would recommend that.

There's links on the right side of the page where you can get to our blog, our YouTube channel. You can also sign up for our mailing list to get our newsletter about halfway through the week. I'll send you a recap of the show, tell you what's coming up. And there's a link on that front page that says mailing list, I think. So you can click that and get yourself signed up. It's not too spammy. I mean, it looks pretty cool. You can delete it if you want to. I mean, what's one more thing to delete? So, you know, sign up. So we're going to let the show end. And this is – we'll listen to Vance Lambert. Again, you can find his new CD, Sophisticated Moron, on VanceLambert.com. He's also performing at the Spirit Midwest Festival. He's opening Friday night at 5 o'clock. He's going to have T-shirts there. I'm going to have to buy one since I put up such a stink about it. Is your face on it? No, just the guitar. I'm disappointed now. You also sell something. He sells something to hang your guitar on the wall. Anyway, Google's website. He does cool stuff out there.

Thanks, man. You're welcome. All right. Well, thanks so much for coming on. And go ahead and lead us out. This is Vance Lambert on Live from the Past. Cool. It's called Sometimes It Rains. It's on my first CD. How much you could say, but would it do any good? Don't suppose what's fair in those tears will ever be found. Oh, no. Your forecast swim from sunshine to gray. You're never back again. Sometimes it ruins it for. Sometimes it's pain. Sometimes it's more. You'll never know what's in store. Redemption will surely find its way. If you carry on, carry on today. Also when mystery stood. For the unknown has pulled out your fears. And pushed you around. Oh, God, please stay.

For her this, I pray. She will laugh again. Sometimes, sometimes it's more. Remember what you're for. Sometimes it's more. Redemption will surely. If you carry on. Seems less than it takes to get through this. For tension of grace. Too bad if you're for. Carry on. If you carry on. If you carry on. Thanks, man. Thanks. Thanks for having me, you guys. Yep. We'll see you in town next week. This week. This week. What? What? Come on, this is Monday. He's going to be here this week.

That's right. Friday, Saturday. Friday, Saturday. He's going to be here. Okay. Well, thanks for listening. You've listened to Live from the Path. And we will see you next week. Sweet. Thanks, man. This way. I ain't seen sun for months and the skies will always bright.