Live from Wolf Street Studios, downtown Des Moines, you are Live from the Path. Thank you for listening. You're listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. Why do I get in trouble for singing along and you don't? I'm not the main dude. Oh. Fine. I'm the side comedy man. I'm Ben Foose. Background vocals. I am the main dude. You're listening to Live from the Path on Des Moines Amplified.com. Thanks so much for being here tonight. Tonight, a teaser. So, how do you… Never mind. What is that? I don't know. What an embarrassment. We're going to be talking about how do you love God. If that's a high and mighty aspiration for the show tonight. And this comes because I think a lot of times we get… The Bible talks a lot about loving God, but I'm not sure that we necessarily talk about how to do that. It is… He is a high and mighty God. I can't see Him. I can't touch Him. Put your hand down. No. Sorry. And so, the question is… I think there's some people that show their love for God and…

Like, I don't know. Maybe I'm not that. So, I have concerns about whether I'm adequately loving the God that I'm supposed to, how I'm supposed to. So… We've all been concerned. Yeah. Some do it with their hands while they're talking. Look up. Gypsy. I love Jesus where I sit. I've never been called a gypsy before. Today's the day. Are there still modern-day gypsies? I think so. I think they're called… They've rebranded to something else? Yeah. They're called something else. I don't remember exactly. I've heard it. I've heard it called something different. Yeah. I think you're right. But I can't… Something I haven't researched for a while.

I wouldn't have. Or ever. I don't think you can Google modern-day gypsies. I was going to give it a shot. I'm interested. Have you ever met a gypsy? Here they go. How would you know? Here we go. Hold on. Answerbag.com. Are there modern-day gypsies? If yes, what language do they speak? I didn't know they had their own language. Yes. At least last time I checked. Yep. I am alive. Oh, here we go. It's by a gypsy. We speak the language of wherever we happen to reside, plus our own language, if we are lucky enough to have learned it. I have forgotten much of mine due to no practice for over two decades and a couple of stout conks on the noggin. But my father tried to teach me Romanos and Romanian, but I was somewhat resistant to learning Romanian.

Ooh, you have a problem with the question, and that is the word gypsy. They stuck this umbrella term on a good chunk of nomadic peoples. Mine is one of them. There are Gitanos, Black Dutch, Irish Travelers, Sinti, Rom, and right now I'm not awake enough to list all of them. So anybody who's nomadic is just a gypsy. Is a gypsy. Yeah. I didn't know gypsies were bilingual. Quite educated. Yes, they are. They generally speak whatever language is standard in the country. Hey, that's fairly amenable to move somewhere and you don't assert yourself. Yeah, you're one heck of a gypsy if you're going across the seas to a different language. I mean, I think you've put all your cards in one basket here if you're like, I am so for being a nomadic gypsy that I will travel the world speaking different languages to do so. I think the idea is that just happens to be where they are, so that's all they've learned. Not necessarily that they're adapting to- I think I get the gypsies and the homeless kind of messed up. I think they're the same thing, the little nomadic- Well, I guess it depends on what kind of homeless you are, but gypsies always thought that they kind of, you know, they didn't have a skill enough that they, you know, just ended where they ended, but apparently that is the skill, is to be able to moose about the world. Yeah, and survive. And be able to dance and sing like they did in the movies. That's interesting.

What movies? Are there gypsies in movies back in the day? I don't know. Back in the day gypsy movies. Back in the day movies. Didn't Lassie episodes have gypsies? I don't know. Somewhere along the line you get the image of a gypsy, you know. I'm pretty sure that's when Andy Griffith got canceled. As soon as he brought in the season with the gypsies. Poor Andy. People said, oh, come on. Barney shot him and it just didn't go over well. So, how would you be able to- I was going to do a Don Knotts impression. You shouldn't have cut me off. Oh. There's gypsies in here. What was that movie, Him and the Fish? The Ghost of Mr. Chicken. Yeah. You do a terrible gypsy. How did you get Ghost of Mr. Chicken out of me saying fish? You said Don Knotts? Yeah. And in something and the fish, that's the only Don Knotts movie I'm aware of.

Huh. I missed that one. You've never seen The Ghost of Mr. Chicken? He turns into a fish, I think. A cartoon. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. He does turn into a fish. Yeah. He's a gypsy hunter. How if I missed that? But anyway, Don Knotts loved the Lord without weeping. I'm not sure that's the case. Is this a parental favorite? Dan, do you know this one? No. Oh, yeah, I do. There's a share. Finally. Yes! We found a number that Dan can pick out. Okay. Anyway, that's enough. That's enough gypsies for today. What else is going on? The Apple Dumpling Gang.

I remember that. I do remember that movie. Were there gypsies on the Apple Dumpling Gang? Okay. Don Knotts was. So I guess if you're on the chat, can you either, have you either met a gypsy or have you seen a television show that had a gypsy on it and what was the name of the show? Oh, Don Knotts was in the Apple Dumpling Gang. Is that what you're saying? Okay. But have you met a gypsy? Would you know? I don't know. I don't know. How would I know if I met a gypsy? Do they have like flow, brain, gypsy? Do they stereotypically make money like how they're portrayed? I see them as like gold chains and silk shirts. Now see, I was just going to say something that would be a stereotype. I was about to say they're not Italian. Maybe the ones I saw on the TV were. I'll tell you what. If you've ever seen an Italian gypsy, you turn around. Run. You don't want that kind of trouble. So there seems to be a widespread thing on the internet about gypsies being of Romanian descent.

Like there's a lot of people defending gypsies as if it's a pejorative and I don't know. Like I just felt like they were wanderers. I did too. Well, can you be two people? Can you be like a gypsy carny? His pants a gypsy. It's likely. Wait a minute. Is this a video of a gypsy? Olsen? You're absolute gold. Hold on a minute. Oh, no. He's posted the link for Caps for Sale. Olsen, I like your style. Caps for Sale is going very well. It is. It's hitting the town. We will hit awards on that. Yeah. I'm sure. There's no doubt. A positive. I have heard whisper of Des Moines Emmys for Mike's portrayal of the monkeys. It was dead on. It was golden.

And so this week, we're giving you a break from Tales from the Past for this week. But next week, we'll be performing a new Tales from the Past titled Dan the Dunce, which was a Hans Christian Anderson tale. And really, it's just a replay of our show. Any names portrayed? Yeah, never mind. Nope. Okay. Nobody's met a real gypsy? Or we wouldn't know? Yeah, how would you know? Is it a blend in the culture? There's one. I could be one. I would think a guy working in a carnival, a carny guy, would be kind of like a gypsy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they travel from town to town. Are you a carny gypsy, or are you just one or the other? I think you're just a modern-day American gypsy. I guess I don't know what labels you as a gypsy. Like, what makes you a gypsy? The nomadic thing, I think. Well, that's it? I don't know. I mean, are traveling salesmen gypsies? That go from town to town?

Well, they have a home, though. They end up having a base somewhere. Here's on the Divorce Court episode guide in 2009. There's a Honey Joels versus Gypsy Joels. Carny, insulting term for a pikey person. Oh, when gypsy is not strong enough. Okay, hold on a minute. We're making some progress here. That's the carny. Carny. Okay, yeah. So, definitely, this is on the, stay away from the Urban Dictionary. It does get kind of foul, but here's a… Definition number three for carny is an insulting term for a pikey person when gypsy is not strong enough, but they do not warrant a full-blown pizzea, which must be offensive. I will not speak that word, then. So, of degrees, it is a carny and then a gypsy. Or was it the other way around? Did I miss it up? I thought carny was more offensive. Well, gypsy is not strong enough. Yeah, so it's gypsy, then carny. You, carny. I don't think I'd ever… You've met carnies? I've met carnies. I used to work for the carnival.

What? Honestly. Okay, I don't know. What parents do this? Tell me you were not the back end of the horse. I don't know what parents do this. Or the bearded lady. It's grade school because I live in Clear Lake. Okay, so it's somewhere between kindergarten and sixth grade is when I did this. At least four years in a row, my buddy Scott and I would go out. Parents knew we were doing this over the July 4th that the carnival comes to town for four days or so, five days, whatever. However, we'd go and help set up rides. They'd pay us like 10, 20 bucks a ride. So I'd help put the Tilted World together, different rides. And they hired local kids. And some of those people were pretty scary. Oh, yeah, I bet. And some of the offers we got were kind of frightening. Oh, man. Kind of open your eyes real quick to like, oh. Didn't know boys did that. Whoa. That's exactly what we thought. Oh, don't worry. It is the bearded lady. Oh, okay.

But his name is John. That has to pay well, doesn't it? Well, we thought so. No, no, no. I'm talking about the bearded lady. I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say anything. I'm talking about putting rides together. I didn't say anything. And I also worked in the head stretch bottles, the ring toss. Yeah. So I put in hours, like 12-hour days. I'd go, like, working for the carnivals. I did the balloon thing one year. Did they pay you well? What did you make, Malamars, or what did they pay you? I wasn't all that honest back then. So they paid a certain wage, and then, you know, everything's cash. And you have an apron, and sometimes money would fall in. It just, I don't know how it got in my pocket. Wrong pocket. And I don't remember. I remember at the end of the week, I was one happy guy. Just like the carnies. Fortunately, Jesus has forgiven me for all that. Excellent.

Hi, Allison. Welcome. Sorry. She was on Matt's show on Saturday night. Awesome. Yeah. And so was Mike harassing Mr. Cassidy. You ever watch that viral video show with Cassidy and David? You know, it's at a perfectly wrong time for me, because I'm just starting to get my sermon going. I'm going to tell you something. Saturday night. David is solid gold. Yeah? He's solid gold. Damn. That was the viral video show. That is Matt Cassidy and David. I don't know his last name. They're on from, I think, from 10, 15 until whenever people will stop watching. Because I bowed out at, oh, Jones. I bowed out at 1 o'clock, or just before 1. Yeah, that's what I said. I stayed until about 1. I checked out. It wouldn't go forever. I was sleeping.

Yeah, I bet. I got to get up at 5. 5 in the morning? Sunday's pretty rough for me. You know gypsies get up at 5 in the morning. That's my one day of work a week. Wait, did I resolve how much the bearded lady gets paid? I don't know. Because, I mean, that's a lifestyle. You know, I'd like to see them type that into Monster. You know, I think I'm getting screwed by my carnival company. What are other bearded ladies making? Exactly. What do you mean, 25 bucks an hour? I would assume that's a commission. You think so? You know, it's however many people come watch the show. I think that's how they do that clown, where he insults you and you throw stuff at him. Nice. Oh, with the fair? Yeah. It doesn't say in here. How much money does a cinema usher, how much does a brain surgeon get? I typed in, how much does a bearded lady get paid? And the first result was, how much does a brain surgeon get paid? Maybe they're one and the same.

You know, I was going to sign up to be one of the seat fillers for the Emmys one year. Not the Emmys, the Oscars. That'd be kind of cool. Yeah. So, I thought one year. Okay, so I was watching the Oscars, right? And I saw the glitz and glamour or whatever, and I thought, I'm one of these people. I'd fit in quite well. I could do this. Look at him. I mean, what's Tom Hanks doing, really? You know, he looks at the camera and he goes, well, son. And people are like, he conveyed more emotion without saying anything. Yes. I was like, I cannot say anything. Exactly. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Okay. I'm going to give you a count to three and you do a line from a movie. It doesn't have to be a real movie, but sell it to me. Here, we're only getting half of your head. Yeah. All right. Okay, ready? One, two, three.

Action. Whoops. No, we're too far. I'll wait until the camera's adjusted. Mike, he can't work under these circumstances, Dan. Daniel. I'm not union. I'm going back to the trailer until this gets resolved. Okay, ready? Action. Wait. This is a delay. Sorry. Timothy. Will you shut up? I'm sorry. Am. Timothy, where's my car? Where's my car? Now, did you believe Timothy took my car? No. I thought you were upset with poor Timothy who probably washed it or something. I was. That's what I was trying to purvey. It was perfect. Set me up with a scene.

Okay. All right. So, here's the scene. You're from a 1930s farmhouse. Oh, come on. You're the purveyor of a farm in the 1930s. The world is booming around you and you're still trying to hold on to your agrarian lifestyle. I don't know what agrarian means. Just roll with it. Crops. All right. So, your mother-in-law, Beulah, is with you to stay and she is actually on your side and your wife and children are trying to get you to sell the farm and move to the big city. Right now, you are in an important scene of which Beulah has grabbed a hold of the side of your arm and is being very passionate about staying and you are making a plea to your wife and kids about holding on to the strength of the farm. Okay. What's my wife's name? Louisa. Isn't this all non-verbal? Are we doing just the camera shot or are you supposed to be speaking? No, no, no. He has to sell it. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm ready.

Okay. Your name is John. Got it. And scene. What was the boy's name again? Louisa. Louisa. It's all I know. It's all I've ever known. It's all my granddaddy knows. It's all my dad knows. It's all I know. Cut. Huh? I'm in. It was everything I wanted and more. You could warm my seat at the Oscars any day. So anyway, I thought if I got next to one of these fancy pantses that I could just tell like a good one-liner and I'd be in. You know, like I'd be sitting in Sting's seat or whatever right next to, I don't know, Tom Hanks, we'll say. Your wife is prompting to divorce you. You know we don't believe in divorce. Well, maybe it's just me. Disaster. Should have asked that question.

New scene. You and your wife are not. For your poor acting ability. It's not bringing in the money. So anyway, I get sitting next to Tom Hanks and I say something like, boy, Sting is smelly or something. I don't know. Get his attention. You know? And so I go to the website to see how to sign up for this. I'm really going to do it, I think. And it specifically says, do not talk to the talent. And I thought, oh man, that's really going to impede my, I mean, I don't look good in a suit. And so if I can't say anything and I'm based off my looks alone, no one's going to hire me to do nothing. So you're not allowed to talk to people at the Oscars. Apparently the seat fillers are on pretty rough restrictions. Like they, they, they get 20% more than they need in case you decide you're going to be somebody, you know, how do they, how do they know which one to send? Like, is there a group of seat fillers kind of in the back and then they, do they replace you with someone that looks like him? Like there's a Tom Hanks lookalike or like a, I don't know. I don't know. What if the guy's just standing up to scratch himself or something? You don't go hauling over there.

Excuse me, sir. Or what if he's just going to talk to his buddy a couple of rows down and you've taken his seat while he's gone? I honestly have never watched any of those shows in my life. More than five minutes. No award shows in my life. Really? They, uh, it's because, why not? Well, they're all sitting there patting each other on the back. I'm like how awesome they are. And I'm like, dude, you're writing somebody, you're reading lines that somebody else wrote and you're getting paid millions of dollars. Isn't that enough? Well, I mean, they do give awards to the guy that wrote it too. You give out baptism certificates. That's not, that's never been the same thing. The Lord came up with baptism. We're stealing it. Yeah, but I've never been to a preacher award assembly where we're talking about how awesome we are for baptizing people. What if, what if, what if, what if someone called you, Dan, and said, uh, we're nominating you for preacher of the Midwest for 2010, uh, would you attend the ceremony? I can't imagine it. What if they paid for the hotel? Well, I'd go for a free trip and then I'd have my seat replacer dude down there and watch it for my TV.

Stepping on Dan's behalf, uh, Mike Foost. It's all I know. It's all I've ever known. I wonder if like somebody's the, the disappointment if they're like the, uh, if they're the seat filler for like, they're the John Candy or like, or the Louis Anderson or like whatever. He's putting his arms out. Who are you? I'm the Dan Hudson. Did you tell the woman that I, that I handed over them Oreo balls? They got rave reviews, lady. No, those were excellent. Very good. Hey, did you start working on that thing I called you about? I told the woman about it. She said it's ridiculous. Okay. Forget it then. You're still, you're still in charge of it. We're going to do a, we're going to do a hot chocolate taste test first week of December here. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to have a bunch of coffee places like submit their hot chocolates and then we'll say which one is the best. I like it. Hey, that's free hot chocolate.

I'm pretty sure they're going to see right through it. I'm going to show up looking just like I normally do. And they're going to go, he's a gypsy. I'm not giving them anything. I'm also the interim John Candy. I think I'm, I'm half a John Candy. I'm the John Can. What? John Candy's dead, isn't he? Yeah. He's died. He's been a long time. Well, that's inappropriate. It didn't work out well for him. Don't tell them it's internet radio. Why? Is that, is that cheesy? I think so. Hi, I host internet radio show. Yeah. It does sound like you wear suspenders. You know what, I mean, that's what, what Don Imus does basically. It just happens to be on TV. It's the same thing. Well, he had a legitimate radio show for quite a while and then switched to the internet. Well, no, but I mean, I mean, he's like on Fox business news now.

Yeah. Or, but I'm just saying it's the same format or these ESPN dudes, I can't remember their names. You know, it's the same setup. It's just, no, that's true. It's broadcast through the net. Yeah. I think it's because it's widely accessible. That's like saying I'm a star on YouTube. We have a larger potential audience than any of them. How's that going for us? It's, it's starting. The revolution is here. Hey man, you've got to start somewhere and that's where we're at. I'm getting my tux fitted next week. And I'm looking for replacements. And I'm going to find a guy that looks just like me. And I'm going to blame all my misdeeds on him. If I have to use the restroom, could you just take my seat, please? It was the faux Dan Hudson. Well, that would really stink if you, if your alter ego guy that was like your seat filler was a real dunce cap and kept saying stuff that made you look like a real, a real moron. Or like tries to tell other people that he's like real good buddies with you. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, no, me and Hudson go way back. Yeah. Me and Hudson.

We used to, we used to take money at the carnival back when we were kids. You know. We spent time together with the bearded lady. We enjoyed, uh, pecan spin wheels behind the, we used to throw glass bottles behind the Hy-Vee. We almost got busted. You've been listening to Life at the Path on Des Moines, Amplified.com. Thanks again for, uh, for listening in. Uh, so far we're talking about Gypsies, Tom Hanks, John Candy, and Mike's failed movie career. Hey, Mike, you remember that movie you were in though? Yeah. Me and Mike. So, so here's the deal. I was on, um, I can't, I was on Craigslist for some reason. I tried looking for random work. Like, I always think that somebody's going to post some kind of ideal job on Craigslist and I'm going to be the first guy that s***s it. Yeah. And I'm being for it. Like, uh. Like Michael Bolton's coming to town and he needs someone to clean his saxophone. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Or perm his hair.

Whatever it is. So, uh, so anyway, we're on there and some, and they're like, there's a movie shooting here in downtown Des Moines. And they say extras wanted, no experience necessary. I say, yeah, that's me right there. I get, I get, I get a, I get a phone call. Ben calls and says, Hey, you, you want to try out for a movie? I said, yeah. He goes, all right, Saturday, we're doing it. So I'll come get you. So, so I sent this guy an email and he's like, do you have any, you know, I sent him, Hey, me and my brother would, would like to be in your movie. We have no experience whatsoever. I'm pretty sure I won't screw it up, but I won't do anything fantastic either. We'll come together. And he emails you back. He's always, okay, come down to the, to this place at this time. I said, cool. So we go down there. And, uh, uh, so there's, there's donuts and stuff in the lobby for you to, for you to partake of. And they hand out scripts. And, uh, it felt like a real movie. It was. They give you a script and then there's like free water. And they say, who are you trying out for?

I'm like, I don't know. I just told the guy I would show up. So we're reading through these parts trying to figure out. And I think I ended up, Mike got to try out for, uh, some guy that was, uh, one of the, one of the bad mothers in the, in the movie. Like he was a, he was a fighting beast. I think I tried out for some kind of dullard, like Russian bar owner. And Ben got the part. Yeah. So, so anyway, so we go in there and we do our, we, we try out and it, it seemed for a while that we got cut that we didn't, we didn't make it to the movie, but then they call back and say, Hey, yeah, you're in. We need some, we need some extras to be in the scene when there's a shootout. Uh, so like I, I got to do two things. My scene one. Okay. I come in and I walk, I walk through the room and I sit down with a, or no, I'm sitting down with a lady friend of mine. Uh, I mean, I'm right next to this, this, this mad Russian. Okay. I, once they say action, I wait a few seconds and then I get up and I leave and that's my scene right there. Now I'd be the guy who trips. Now, so here's, well, so here's the deal is the woman, the woman that is, that I'm supposed to be dating in this, in this movie is first of all, 30 years older than I am. And second of all is drinking all the wine.

Like, cause, cause we did the scene 15 times or so. And like her, she was supposed to be taking drinks of the wine and she must have gone through eight glasses of wine. So she's getting a little tipsy by the time I get over there for time 12. Uh, so what do I, and I leave. And then, uh, the second scene is the, after the guy stabs the mad Russian in the head with a fork, he turns around and then, uh, there's like a shootout and I'm, I'm at the bar kind of just hanging out. That's where I had gone. And I turn around and I go, Ooh, and I gotta, I gotta take one in the stomach. Ooh. And it's hard to get shot in the stomach. Uh, cause I don't know what to, I, here's what I felt like. Like I felt if I was doing it correctly, I should take a, a dive Z back into the bar stools and fall down. But like, they were kind of just squatting in this place for the night. I don't think they wouldn't, they don't want to deal with like a broken bar stools and stuff. Yeah. So I feel like I couldn't do that. So I just, I did want like that. And like, I'm pretty sure it was terrible. And I thought, I imagine, cause we never heard from these guys again. I imagine that they had to scrap the whole movie because they couldn't, didn't have the budget to reshoot the scene in which I go, Ooh. And some kind of, and I mean, I don't look like a gangster Russian.

I had, I had kind of a beard at the time and I was wearing a black, he told me, he said, you need to wear a suit coat, a blazer and a black t-shirt. And I showed up in a black t-shirt cause I couldn't find a blazer. Cause one of the producer guys says, Oh yeah, I'll bring you one. And he doesn't show up with it. And so now I'm stuck. I'm a real, you know, Joe loser who doesn't have his own blazer. It was. Well, how many people have a black blazer laying around? I was going to go buy one. I thought, I mean, I could go pay, I would be in this movie. That seems kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. I robbed the, I robbed the B and B. That's what my job was. I was thug too. And they were robbing the B and B meat market. Nice. And so the guy goes in, I tell you, here's, here's, here's the thing. Here's the thing that was disappointing to me. So I tried out for thug one who has a speaking role. He was going to speak and a thug one come rolling in or whatever. And I tried out for it. I'm like, I got this. I'm thug one.

And it turns out I lost it. They said, well, you're thug too. No speaking role, but you get to shoot some stuff. And I die by the ketchup bottles or whatever. So I'm like, cool. He goes, so I want you to meet the other thugs. So you guys can kind of get together and, and, and, you know, come up with your thing. So thug one comes in and he's like, a six foot five dude. He looks mean. I'm like, oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Of course I lost this guy. He's awesome. And he goes, oh, I'm sorry. I'm late. My play practice ran long and they just couldn't get the dress rehearsal right. I'm like, I can't believe it. You're no thug. I lost thug one to an effeminate giant disaster. Oh, that's awesome. I thought, what kind of no telling heck am I? And it was, it was, but I tell you what, when the camera started rolling, he thugged it up. Really?

He was, he was a definite thug. Yeah. He was a pro. He was pretty good. Yeah. He was pretty awesome. They did makeup on us. He's been trained. On us and everything. Like I, they, they, I don't know what kind of makeup some kind of Russian mobster gets, but like they, you know. Yeah. They sprinkle you. Of course, I mean, I, I'm, I'm sure like, uh, they were getting pretty annoyed because me and Mike were talking and we're terrible. We do terrible Russian accents and we were doing it for like three or four hours because there's nothing else going on. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, Ooh, I love my pretty rouge on my face. You know, like there's a, I do a terrible, except for check this out. This is my best Russian ever. Check this out. I drive camp from my family. That's pretty good, huh? That's the only, it's the only one I do.

I can't say that I can compare it to, uh, like a real Russian. I drive camp from my family. Is it, is Romania by Russia? Is that part of Russia? Yeah. Yeah. It's in Eastern Europe. So that's where the gypsies came from. Romania through the previous Soviet Union. Yeah. Gypsy Russia. Russia. Yeah. There we go. Hey, I guess, uh, I guess, I guess to, uh, uh, to finish out the movie. So they, I've been checking on this movie for like three years and it doesn't seem like it ever came out. Like I think it was, it seems like a waste to me because they went through and they shot it. I know they like shot the film. I don't know if they never put it together and never released it or whatever. And I, and I, uh, Oh, we also tried to do the music for it. So they had another guy that does the music and me and Mike are like, well, we should break into the movie business doing music. Yeah. So, so in one of the scenes that we saw, we decided we were going to write the background.

So we went into the ministry center and we were there for, I don't know, 10 or 12 hours putting this tune together, uh, real creepy looking tune. And that we send it to him and kind of describe where it fits in the scene. We don't hear anything from him. So I wait three or four weeks. I email him back. Uh, and then the movie never comes out. He doesn't ever return any of my emails. And he lost that state funding. That was the kind of it. So, uh, our movie career was swiftly. Rick Gray was in a movie a few years ago. Really? And that's really all I can tell you. Have, has anybody in the chat ever been in a movie? Or let me ask you a second question. Would you be in a movie? Like, would you be interested in being an extra on a movie? Oh, you would do it? Oh, you okay. Oh yeah. Allison would. Okay. Every, is everybody in? I don't know. I can't see the chat.

You have to answer the question. I'm not needing. I'm going to ask me questions. They're doing some kind of babysitting conversation in, in tandem with whether they'll be in a movie or not. So far, Allison's the only participant that says yes, she would be. Dan, would you be in a movie? Um, yeah, I would, I would have some fun with that. What if they made you change your name to Danger? Well, I'd do that. Danger. Danger Hudson. Yeah. That's kind of cool. Danger Rocco. That didn't work. Rocco Danger. I don't know where Rocco is going. I like it. Pants, Pants is willing to be, I'll play the player piano in a Western. Pants, uh, yeah, Pants could pull that off. What do you think? Somebody support me. I don't know if he could or not. I thought I could pull off Thug 2, apparently. Yeah, yeah.

That fell through. I don't know. I tried to write a movie script one time. I don't remember what it was about, though. Like, I decided I was going to write a movie, because I thought it was easy. It was just a guy in prison talking, and that was it. That was like, it was a very, it was a think piece. I'm going to tell you, here's what I'm going to tell you about Ben. Every two weeks, Ben comes up with some kind of grand scheme on what we're going to do. Like, he never implicitly says, this is going to make us millions, or this is what we're going to do from here on out. But he always calls, I mean, every two weeks, it never fails. He calls and says, here's what we're going to do. This is our new thing. So, over the last three years, we were supposed to have written a rock opera, a play, a musical, two movies, three commercials, and like, scores of tunes, you know, for all different types of situations. You know what you do, dude? We should write the background music for commercials. Tell me. We can custom tailor it to exactly what they want. You know what I'm saying? There's no reason we can't get into this. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to buy a website. I'm going to get it put up.

Ben owns. I was going to ask, how many websites do you own? Well, we're down to like four. Oh. But I think over the last few years, it's probably up to, I don't know, eight or ten. There's been quite a few. It's an astronomical amount. I just let go, within the last few months, of $1church.net. Do you remember $1church? The thought was, we're trying to raise money, I think, for the ministry center? I think so. And the thought was, we can't ask you. Like, people are tithing at their own churches. They're giving money elsewhere. But like, if we just said, look, give us a buck at the $1church.net, and that if a bunch of people gave a dollar, eventually we would, you know, we would have enough to pay for the ministry center. Yeah. A totally self-serving $1church.net. Yeah. When I was, what would I have been? Before Danielle was born, so I was perhaps a long time ago. She's going to turn 21 in January. So, I can't remember how I got hooked up with this dude. There's this guy who's just, this is creepy guy, salesman dude, guy, who's like, I can't remember.

Anyway, he had this gimmick. He was going to get all these churches involved with this missions program where he'd get everybody to send a dollar cash. And he wanted no paper trail. He wanted no, you know. And somehow I ended up going to his house when he was trying to get me to sell stuff with them. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I'll talk to you, you know. Because we went out, went to Applebee's or something, and we were talking about this. And I went to his house, and it was like this, ready to fall over, and, you know, wife and kids were all yelling at each other, which, you know, they were all of them. But I mean, I was just going, dude, you're asking everybody to send you dollar cash a month. Yeah. For, quote, missionaries. You know, and I'm like, you know, if I had a run-down, dilapidated shag of a house, I would most certainly invite people to somewhere else. Exactly. Yeah. That was like, I don't know. There were so many red flags popping up, I was just like, you know, I'm pretty sure I'm going to pass. He showed up with a fifth of whiskey. Well, he probably did. We needed donations. We're just looking for cash.

You know, we don't have to worry about the government and stuff. We just give it to the missionaries, and they have a need, and we pass it along, and people just give a dollar. Come on, Bill. Come on, Bill Hudson. Come on. It's the only life I've ever known. I'm like, well, where's the accountability? We don't need accountability. It's a dollar. It's all I've ever known. We get 4,000 people doing this every week, it'll be great. Are you going to be, oh, I'll drink that. Let's just stay and grow corn. Beautiful corn. The guy was just kind of scary, kind of creepy. You know, Dan, for a guy that doesn't drink, you do a fantastic, like, eccentric drunk man. I'm really impressed. You're like straight off that Dumbo movie. It's fantastic. If you guys could do some background music to that, that'd be awesome. We should go into the movie for this. We can do cartoons. Ben will call you next week with the itinerary. I was thinking we could do, like, the drunk dullards. What were they?

The drunk dullards. A highbrow comedy. The drunk gypsy dullard. His catchphrase is, is that a shoe? Oh, there he goes again. That crazy guy. He thinks everything's a shoe. How embarrassing. Hey, I saw, I was sorry, the chat got distracted getting babysitting erasements for Wednesday. Was that for our debut? No. Grace's Mimi, you had a small part in a movie back in the 70s? Can you tell me more about that? I'm interested. Grace's Mimi met Elvis. Really? Yeah. Like, shook his hand? I don't know. I didn't catch the whole story. Maybe she just got a quick picture of Elvis backstage. Hey, do you have any, let me ask you this. Do you guys have any memorabilia from somebody famous? I went to the bathroom. That's not really the memorabilia. And it looked like.

Listen to this story. So, do you know who Buddy Guy is? He's a blues man. Yeah. He's got to be 85 by now. But he's a fairly famous blues guy. Yeah. So, we were at a blues festival in Davenport. And I went to the port-a-potty after Buddy Guy went in there. Is that Buddy Guy? This is him right here, yeah. So, that was my brush with fame. Buddy Guy went in to the John. I went in directly after him. I don't know if I'd want to go to the John after a famous musician. Why? I don't know. I've just heard stories. I don't know. You know you musician people. What do you. When you're really famous? What do you mean? What do you think is going to happen in there? That's what's happened in previous encounters. That's enough.

Baby. Herbie and the Love Bug? That's awesome. Oh, who has her? What? That Gracie's baby was in Hermia. Which scene? Can we find it? Like, I didn't know anything about this. Tell me more about this Herbie and the Love Bug. Who? Wait. Do you have a memorabilia from Michael Jordan? Just Vance? Or do you have of Michael Jordan? Oh, yes. Who's a liar? What's going on here? Who's telling lies? I can't follow the conversation. I had a friend whose parents, grandparents, excuse me, was in The Great American Smokeout. Remember that? It was filmed in Iowa. It was like an old movie 50 years ago or something. The whole town quit smoking. That's not familiar.

It was a self-help video? No, it was like a movie. It was like a bunch of stars in the minute and it was some big challenge. That sounds terrible. It was real famous for a while. I mean, it was like, I don't know when the 60s. I don't know when that was. Yeah. And they were like extras. So everyone should probably pull that movie out. Come on, look at this. This is my grandma. Ben found footage of my old man. He was a professional bowler back in the day. He found footage on YouTube of him bowling when he was like 18 on the PVA tour in New Jersey. He was wearing a bright pink fluorescent Gary Foost shirt. It's classic. Me and Ben tried out to sing You Got the Right One Baby for Diet Pepsi. They were having tryouts to be on the commercial back in the mid-80s. Yeah. And, of course, we were twins. And so we both put on Diet Pepsi shirts and we go, You Got the Right One Baby. Uh-huh. It was really embarrassing. I wish I could get that video. Okay, hold on.

Here we go. I'm going to show it. All right. Here's a video of the old man when he was on the PVA tour. Well, now, I'll give you commentary on what's going on. He's not the main guy. He's not this dude right here. Oh, shoot. Hold on. I've got to stuff the buddy guy. That's Glenn Campbell. Not Glenn Campbell. Okay. All right. Here we go. All right. Hold on. I don't know where it's at in this clip. You're going to have to hang out with me. This is hip. This is hip. Did you ever hit that bar that comes down? With the bowling ball? Yeah. This is taking forever. Let's get a move on.

I've done that. It's pretty embarrassing. It's been a few years. Nice. Maybe this isn't the right one. I hope so. The steak is a $5,000 first prize. And this is the man who was… So he's going to be wearing like a bright pink shirt in the background somewhere. See if we can see him. A charter member of the PVA, also a Hall of Fame member. That's it. That's what happened. Yeah. Okay. So look. Look. Just to the right. And there's a guy in like a… It looks like a pink or a salmon shirt wearing white pants right behind the… Can you point with him? Yeah. Yeah. See that? That's him. That's him right there.

That's… Looks like he's holding a guitar. Or a vase. Okay. Hold on. On the pause. See if we get a better shot. From the Edison lanes in Edison, New Jersey. Hello everyone. I'm Dick Stockton. And welcome to another event on the PVA Summer Tour on Home Box Office. And tonight we have a very interesting final speaker. Pick it up, Stockton. Hold on. We have our fighting for the competitive tournaments in Quites, 14 and 15. Hello Richard. How are you? Well, I had Gary Pust on our show last week. There he is! He's 18 years old, right? Well, we've got two more of our… That's him. That was Gary Pust. That's Dad right there. He's not the guy, but he was the guy he was talking about. Dad knows that sharp-dressed man, apparently.

Hold on. Let's see if we can get more video of him. There he is! Right there! That's him right there. Right next to the guy in the blue blazer. Okay. That's it. That was probably way more interesting for Ben and I than you guys, but… Sorry. I don't know. That's pretty cool. I don't know. That bowling theme song's pretty up. I like the shirt. He's got that. I think that's still… Do you have it? Yeah, I got it. I mean, this is a bright, bright pink shirt, and it says, like, Gary Pust in the back. Real… You gotta have him sign it and put it in the glass case and everything in the living room. He never took his bowling. Really? Like, he bowled for a little while and then considered it just, like, the biggest mistake of his life.

And so we've never gone bowling with him ever. I mean, he had to be a pretty big-time bowler to get there. He toured. Like, I mean, he grew up in Iowa. Obviously, he was in New Jersey bowling. So, like, he toured. He made money at it. Huh. I don't know. Must have gotten a little disappointed somewhere in there. Something. Something happened. He's got a big talker about his bowling. Painful memory. About his bowling. My dad never talked about the war, either. I don't know if that's… I'm pretty sure it's not comparable to the war. Okay. I'm just… I was on the bowling cricket. I was in the war. Then they both tipped their glasses. Yeah, I know those stories. I talked to a guy who was my dad's pastor, like, years after he passed away. After my dad passed away.

And he goes, oh, man, your dad's war stories were just so cool. Oh, don't you miss those? I'm going, like, he had war stories? Oh, man. I'm like, he never told me a one. I don't know. I haven't seen him since. I'm like, dude, I want to hear the war stories because I never heard them. Some, at least. Yeah. I was like, make something up. I will never know. Talk to my dad's pastor. Bowling stories, my friend. I don't know what kind of war stories you have when you're in the Navy, in the mess hall in the Navy in World War II, though. It's like… Yeah, we made chili dogs that one day. Oh, that was a mistake. But they ate him up something fierce. The sea was angry that day. He must have made him up for this guy, though. That sounds like my dad. He'd make up all kinds of stuff. Yeah, that guy wouldn't know any better. Yeah.

Yeah, when I was in NOM. NOM, what you talking about? What? I was talking about some kind of slick willy. What'd you talk about? NOM. I was a preacher. All right. So you've listened to Live from the Path on Des Moines, amplified.com. Hold on. I'm just checking to see if you can have a… Deepak Chopra, Hugh Grant. I did have a signed picture of Hugh Grant in my house. The woman who bought it for me. Now, here's the thing. I like Hugh Grant movies. I'm kind of a sucker for romantic comedies. You know, shoot a guy. He likes to see romantic comedies. Okay? But the woman gets me some kind of autographed picture of Hugh Grant. You're pretty happy about this. I can't. And although it was pretty nice, I've heard, to do so, I just can't keep an autographed picture of a dude up like on my desk or my wall or something. I didn't know what to do with it.

I hid it in my trunk for a while, and then it got water and battery acid on it, and then I had to give it up. Bummer. We got Danielle for Christmas when you're… What do you call that? Big poster. Not a movie poster. It's a… Of Phantom of the Opera, the actual play, the original with the dude who signed it. A bunch of the original actors signed it, and what's his name? Andrew Lloyd Webber? Yeah, and he signed it. It's kind of cool. It's in her bedroom. That's all I got. All right, I'll let the awkwardness pass. All right. You've been listening to Live from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. You monkeys, you. Give me a pack, Mark. We're a bag. We're a bag. We're a bag for sale. 50 cents a cap. We're a band of one-trick ponies, Eric. I'm going to have to pay that over the break.

All right, so the question this week was… Here's where I'm coming from. So I felt like, I don't know, every once in a while, I feel like I'm not as connected to God as somebody else, because you'll see people, and they're, like, extremely earnest. Like, I am in love with Jesus, they'll say. And they, like, you know, the people on TV, they're weeping. They're flying. They're flying themselves around. I don't know. They seem to be a lot more involved with this relationship that I feel like I've got a good handle on. But I'm not much of a weeper. Like, I don't cry. Very often. And so… Remember when your Hugh Grant picture gets battery acid on it? No! It's all I know! But, like, so I guess every once in a while, it makes me feel a little bit self-conscious. And I think, like, am I not as close to God as these people are? Look how they feel. Look how they're acting. Because you're not as emotionally engaged. Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're not.

Okay. You're failing. You're pretty much a loser. Well, so I guess my question was, and the only reason this came up is because I happened to have been reading in 1 John, and I found something that I thought, hey, now, now I can get on board with this, because this sounds like something I can be up to. So this is in 1 John 5, verse 3. It says, this is love for God to obey his commandments. And I thought, well, I'm trying really hard to obey his commandments. And if that's love to God, I'm loving God. And then I thought, maybe there's a catch to this. Like, is there a catch to it where, like, yeah, you have to do the commandments, but then you also have to weep about it, to cry for Jesus? Like, I don't know, Dan, is there more? Or, I mean, is me obeying, following God, acknowledging who he is, what he's done, the son that he sent for me, and obeying those commandments because I believe who he is, is that appropriate, showing love for God? You know, it's in the Old Testament, it's in the New Testament, Jesus talks about what's the greatest commandment, love you, the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. And you look at that, and that involves emotion, but it also involves intellect, you know, your heart, your soul, your mind. It's just your whole being. I think what we tend to do as people is we relate to God in the same way we relate to other people. Right.

So, you know, you're kind of an analytical guy, and, you know, so you probably don't weep a whole lot. You know, I've known people who, you just look at them and you think, really? You know, honestly? I mean, you're, like, you just came in and, like, some songs started, and you're weeping, and you're like, ooh! You know, and I'm the same way. I kind of am like, you know, it'd be one thing if I didn't know what you're doing on the side, you know, because I'm going, not to be judgmental, but I'm like, okay, dude, you're not even, like, really living the life, so are you weeping because you know you're not living the life, or why are you weeping? Then you're talking, oh, I just love God so much, you know, and God's so awesome, and like, well, yeah, he is, but then you've got to have that first John in balance. You know, you can throw out all the emotion you want, it's really meaningless if it's not put it, you know, backed up with action. Right, it's a show. Exactly. I tell you what, and that's what, like, you know, the qualms most people have with, like, like, televangelists, you know, is they'll point to them, and they'll, you know, they'll do the whole hypocrite thing, you know, which we've talked about before. It's like, you can't be a Christ follower or not be a hypocrite. That's not the deal. Like, the problem I generally have with them is I don't think they're being earnest, and I think it's a show, like, like, you're trying to phony God's appearance, appearance for what? God could stand on his own two feet. He doesn't need your show.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, his grace and his love is more than sufficient, more than obvious enough without you, you know, dropping to your knees and bawling, you know, like, like the Lord is such either an overwhelming joy, which I suppose, or a huge burden to you, either one, you know, I don't know, like, I mean, there's a good portion of the population that weep, but not like that, you know? I mean, something really has to happen for me to drop to my knees and weep openly. Really, yeah. I mean, I have known some people who are, you know, pretty rough guys, but when it really hits them, the depth of God's love for us and his grace, you know, I've seen them get, you know, not necessarily weepy, but, you know, like emotional, they'll quiver, their voice will kind of like, you know, you know, and I kind of respect that because, you know, because I know they're also living it too. I mean, not perfectly or anything, but I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's a real, it's the real deal to them. And so it is kind of annoying though when people are, are, are blailing around and, and to me, it's annoying to, to, like. Yeah. Well, you know, that there comes a lot of things, you know, in, in, in the Christian faith, we'll put it, you know, that, uh, if it was being done honestly and with a heart for God, it's totally understandable, but there's a lot of things that, that, you know, everyone else has a hard time with because it doesn't appear that way, you know, like it, it, it happens with, I don't know, with the weeping and with the, the talking in tongues and, you know, a lot of, a lot of kind of, kind of out there stuff that's like, you know, I, you know, you don't ever want to say that God can't do it, you know, healing people, you

know what I'm saying? You don't ever want to say that the Lord can't do these things, you know? Right. But on the other hand, you know, you kind of got to take some stuff into consideration and, and the character of God and, and, and what's going on and what the Lord doesn't tend to use anymore. And, and I don't know, like, you know, I, I don't ever want to say that the Lord doesn't do anything because obviously God can do whatever he wants to do, but, um, you know, like it's hard to believe most of this stuff is going on with an honest heart for God, you know what I'm saying? I don't know that, that stuff seems kind of, it just seems kind of, it's kind of tough for me to swallow sometimes. Well, I think, you know, it's like any relationship you have, if you, if you're married and, uh, you are emotionally pouring out to your wife, you know, and you're, you're, you have this a great evening, you bring flowers and you get her a nice card with all this wonderful flowery language and, and you bring her some chocolates and, and, you know, you're having a romantic candlelight dinner and you, and just, just tears in your eyes saying, I just love you so much, you just mean so much to me, you're, you're the greatest person ever and, and they're feeling really good about it because they don't know what's really going on in the background and then the next day at work, you know, you, you, you bring a prostitute in because you're like, well, that was last night, you know, I really do love my wife and, but man, I really want this too. I like the guy that brings the prostitute to work. Well, you know, you gotta be, wherever, however this works, I've never done the prostitute thing, so I don't really know how it works. Hey Jim, hey Bill, yeah, this is Sarah.

This is, she'll just be here for about 15 minutes, but you know, I hope it's no longer than that, just to be expensive. That's right, I'm on the clock, but you know, what is, what is your, how does your wife feel when you bring the photos home and say, oh, I met Sally over lunch, you know. Boy, you're a real piece of work. I'm just saying. This Jim is like a grade A jerk, man. I love you so much. I'm going to get a prostitute, I'm going to take some pictures, I'll show them to you. Well, that's what God says that we are when, when we, we can pour out all these emotions all we want, but if we're not obeying him, and which is what the first John text is saying that this is love for God, to obey his commandments. The whole book of Hosea is basically Hosea marrying a woman who is a prostitute, and him as a prophet of God, it was an example to the people of Israel saying, okay, you are to be disloyal to God as if you were with a prostitute to God. God was viewing it that way, you know, and, and it's really fascinating. Book's a pretty short book to read, but you read through that, and it's kind of the same thing, you know, it's, it's, you can't imagine doing that, but people, but we do it with God. Yeah. You know, we'll be all flowery, oh God, we love you, and the next day we're doing something that's completely against what scripture says, well, you don't really love God. Well, and you know, I think maybe that's, that, that might be the single biggest propagator of false following is misunderstanding what it is to show love for God, is to, because I, we, people want to embrace the, the relational, the God that, that loves us and supports us, which he does, but, but the love they show back is just appreciation for him loving us, right?

It doesn't tend to be like, God says, you show me love by obeying my commandments, and you know, and we can, we can turn on, turn it on for church on Sunday, and then we can walk out the door and be the, you know, be the jerks that we started with, and we think, well, that's, that's okay, God, God loves me, and he'll forgive me, to, to realize that we're not showing love for God at all, because we're not acting that way, and you know, it previously, actually, 1 John, I was looking for, for things to kind of make sure I wasn't misreading this, and 1 John is just full of them, even, even back a chapter, in chapter 3, it says, Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue, but with actions and in truth, you know, which very much, you know, insinuates that, you know, if you're, I could care less what it is that you're saying, and when, in the, in Matthew, where it says, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and your soul, and your strength, I mean, he's identifying all the ways of which you are to be obeying him, yeah, right, obey with your heart, obey with your mind, you know, use your strength to, to follow my commandments, and it's not as simple as, oh, I just need to love God stronger, you know, in a Russian accent, if I could have a little gypsy blood in me, but, you know, that goes back to every, every decision, every choice you make as a believer, I mean, we, because we're imperfect, we will, at times, fail, and we'll fall to temptation, but when, when you have that, that issue in your life, you keep going back to, and you, and you allow yourself to, it's really, it's a love issue, because you're choosing between, do I love God more, do I love me more, well, I really like, you know, whatever this thing is, that I'm doing, and that's why John's saying, hey, really, you know, if you want to show your love for God, just obey him, just do what he says, yeah, I mean, we don't think of it in that term, those terms, and I, and I think, again, to, to a certain extent, sometimes to the, to the detriment of it, if we don't, if we, if we look at, at loving God, it's something that we, that we have to, I think sometimes we try to get there by, oh, if I just prayed more, if I talked slower, if I thought differently, if I listened to passionate music, like, I mean, don't get me wrong.

I put longer pauses in my prayers. Yeah, if I could just be a little bit more heavy for Jesus, that would do it. Well, the dude in, in Colorado, I don't want to slam any specific person, but, but, you know, he was this preacher of a big mega church, and outspoken against, like, issues of homosexuality and stuff, where on the side, they find out he's hiring homosexual prostitutes and, and buying some pretty heavy-duty drugs, you know, and it's like, well, what was that, and he, and he, he's, I think, kind of a weeper, you know, it's like, oh, God, you know, and it's like, wow, somewhere along the line, there was a, there's a flaw, you know, and I'm not going to say he doesn't love God, I don't know, well, I guess the scripture speaks for itself, I'll be quiet, you know, who, I don't want to, I'm trying to defend a guy I don't know, but we'll let the scripture talk, um, falls down to choice. Yeah. Well, I, man, was that, I was reading a story, there's a second story, like, there, there's that, that big hubbub about a pastor, you know, who's been having some kind of relation with a, with a boy or something, I don't know, it was messy, but, uh, some other guy who, uh, who was, who was a pastor for like the last 20 years has come out and now said that he's, uh, uh, he's gay, you know, and, uh, and this, this guy, you know, said, you know, it, it was a pro, it was a pro church accepting homosexuality article and, you know, whatever, and I was just reading it, but the, the thing that I found funny at the end is goes, said pastor so-and-so, uh, who had, he goes, you know, I still love my four kids from, I still love my two ex-wives, you know, and, uh, I've just now turned a corner on what I've always been, you know, and I thought, ah, couldn't you just gotten out of the past oral game, you know, like if this was going to be your deal, like gay or not, I don't care, that's not the, you know, whatever, the, the, you, you've, you've chewed, you're chewing through wives like you're buying cars and you got, you got, you know, I mean, everybody makes mistakes, it is what it is, you know, but I'm like, at, at what point

do you go, I'm not, I'm not doing this right for God, you know, am I doing this honestly, you know, am I honestly, you know, giving this my, everything I have, am I falling short or am I running short, because this is not, this is not an excellent track record for a guy that's, that's leading people to Christ, you know, I don't know, it was kind of rough, I thought, well, and that's the thing is that I read those things and I go, no wonder no one wants to listen to us, you know, no wonder no one, no one wants to hear anything we say. Well, that's actually the, the most, the single most prevalent complaint about following Christ's, Christianity as a religion is the hypocrisy, the things that people say versus the things that people do, the people, the, the people that we are on Sunday versus the people that we are during the week, and all of that bows down to the exact, is the exact same thing, which is we're not following through by obeying God's commandments, in effect, oh, you're not showing love for God. Yeah. And, and, and, at the same time, this is, this guy's in the headlines when the countless millions of people who are being faithful aren't. Well, that's true. Maybe there's, that's the one that comes to mind, is like, oh, that one guy. No, that's, that's, that's true. It's not like they run stories on this good Christian fellow who's been doing nice things for people. Exactly. You know, healthy birds, whatnot, they're like, well, whatever, that's boring. That won't sell anything, that's not exciting. Where's the guy that's screwing it all? You know, you gotta keep that in mind, too, that, because any, I don't care who you are,

because because we are human and we all have our issues, I mean, if your life calling is, is, you know, protecting dogs, you're gonna find a dog protector out there that, that eats them. I mean, there's, you know, there's one of them out there that is just a freak, you know, and you're just like, really, you're barbecuing those little poor puppies? You know, I mean, and then you're gonna think all dog catchers are barbecuing, but he's like, no, that's not true. It was just, there was one freak. You know, Dan, I tell you, you come up to just some of the most hard-hitting examples. Some kind of dog eater, barbecuer, who's supposed to be saving dogs. A guy that gets a prostitute and brings them to work. He's fired on all cylinders tonight, man. It's been a long week. Turns out it's the same guy. He's the worst dude ever. It's that extra strength Tylenol. Oh, man. What do you mean you're leaving me because of the prostitute? I'm gonna cook the dog. That's a nice puppy. You gonna eat that. I got a lighter and a sterno candle. Disaster. Yeah, and I guess just to reinforce, I wanted to make sure that it wasn't just John who was on a flight about this particular thing because he seemed to hit it pretty heavy. And Dan's example in Hosea is a good one.

Also back in Deuteronomy 11.1, it says, Love the Lord your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws, and his commands always. So it is a consistent love for God is how you follow and how you obey. So I don't know. I feel bad about saying this, but I felt better after having kind of read that because I did. I felt like, man, I'm missing something. I'm missing something. Something I'm not doing that I'm being, I'm separated from God more than I need to be because I'm not feeling what that person over there who seems to be feeling. Where do they get that from? And it was helpful to me, and it was an unnecessary barrier. It was a tricky one. It's a tricky barrier, and I'm actually pretty happy about it. I've been jazzed about it for about a week and a half. Pretty excited. Cool, cool. You know, and it looks at the heart, mind, soul thing. You know, it's the whole person. You look at David in the Old Testament, King David. He kind of had them all in line. You know, he could write poetry. He could write poetry declaring his love for God in a way I certainly can't write or even barely speak. Right. You know, and he could play his harp, and, you know, in the next minute, he's, I don't know, being a warrior for God. Right. You know, he kind of had a pretty good balance going on. I don't, I don't, I'm the same way.

I don't get all that weepy. I don't write poetry very well, and I've never tried, really, but I've written poetry. Me too. Hey, I called Mike three, four weeks ago and said, hey, we should write poetry. Let's write a, let's write a book. We should do a, we should do a poetry jam. People would come from miles around. It'll be God poetry. That's what it'll be. That's how we'll get them. Can we do those little things? Do you have the stage, and somebody comes up and does the improv? We should do a slam, the poetry slam, where you get up there, and we're just real heavy about it. And I can't, I can't take it. Jesus. Jesus, blood, and Rehoboam, the abyss, and darkness is pierced through lightning. Salvation, Pepsi, under a sheet. Which one makes you feel bubbly? Tear my heart. Actually, Allison, that's a solid point. Allison from the chat says, if we all showed emotions the same over the same things, there would be no use for emotions at all. It would be like breathing all the same. That's a good point. You wouldn't be able to tell one person from the other if they were all doing the same thing? How could you pick out a lunatic? Exactly.

How can we laugh at people? That guy's going crazy. Look at that jerk. Oh, I'm doing the same thing. Well, I guess we're the same. You know, it's probably something, actually, to keep in mind, too. And it's, I don't know, just something to think about. But, you know, if you're not, just because you're not the overly emotional Christian dude or whatnot, you know, the way that you show love is through obedience. It's maybe something to keep in mind that that, you know, the way that you show love is not necessarily the way that Christ will always show love to you. You know what I'm saying? Like, to not put God in the box and, you know, maybe realize who you're talking to that when you're praying, you're not talking to him like you're expecting a response like you would give. You know what I'm saying? Like, try not to limit the Lord to your personality, you know, on the way that things are going to go down. Because I think he'd surprise you is what I think will happen. I think you'll, obviously, you'll see a lot of things come out of that. But, you know, the only thing that God says, here's how I want you to show my love, is what you said, the obedience. He doesn't say, I want you to cry. I want you to, there's nothing wrong with it, you know, but it's not like he's saying, this is what I'm desiring out of our relationship. Right. You know, would you weep when you, you know, light a candle in my name? And would you, you know, it's not there. It's obeying me. I like the candle. And Jesus. And Jesus. It's just like a switch.

I like the candles, dude. How many candles are there? 45 candles. And I guess if we're being honest here, I have wept within this year when I went to the prayer room. The last time we had a prayer room, I walked in and I turned some tunes on and I cranked them up. And I mean, seriously, 30 seconds in, I was weeping. And I wasn't like, wasn't sad or anything. I was looking around like, what is going on here? I can't identify this. Yeah, yeah. And so it's happened. It has happened. And like, it was, I don't know, it was cathartic and cleansing. It was nice. I didn't weep for an hour. I was wiping away tears for three minutes. I'm like, I don't understand. Stop. I feel just fine. I shouldn't have lit that candle. I don't think I've, I don't think I've wept since. But like, I mean, so it's not, it's not completely out of the, out of the bleachers to say that it doesn't happen. I'm just saying it's the guy that like, the minute he starts talking about anything that's remotely related to Jesus, like he just can't handle himself. And that person, frankly, I think would have trouble being effective as a witness to somebody else. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, come be a pansy for Christ. It's, it's not a bumper sticker. Well, I, yeah, I don't know. Like, like I ran into that almost the exact same thing, but the opposite at the prayer room. Like, I didn't weep at all. Uh-huh. And I actually came and talked to Daniel about it. I'm like, why don't I weep, Daniel? What is the deal? Because we've been reading a lot of Francis Chan. We lit a candle. We've been, yeah. We've been reading a lot of stuff that Francis Chan writes. You know, he's a pretty heavy dude. You know, he's not. He's emotional. Yeah, he's an emotional guy. And boy, I'm not at all. You know, and so, like most of his stuff, like, I think he has super solid points. But I can't ever get fully on board with him because he starts getting emotional halfway through and I shut him out. Yeah. And so, but I thought, and then I started to get worried about it. I'm like, why can't I be super intense? You know, like this guy, you know, because I mean, you don't want to be laissez-faire about the Lord. You know, like, you know, he's just God, you know, put him on a T-shirt. I'll wear him about, you know.

But on the other hand, like, I don't know. I don't know that you can force yourself into being something that God didn't create. You know, like God created you with a certain set of this and this and this. And you can't take that too far like God created me to be. I'm not supposed to be hospitable. He made that for other people. The Lord made me a dog barbecuer. I can't change my ways. It's all to your glory. Hey, now in some parts of the world, that's good stuff. Just put him in the trunk. He's got good fat on him. Stop him from running. He's running off all the taste. Oh, I said Bernard. They said this day would never come. I'll have you. Bernig. In that fence, I see two Marmaduques. Grab him. Save that one for the fair. That's the barbecue stand. Okay, yeah. I think I had something in there that was actually of worth. I was distracted by a guy that grabs a dog and licks him for like a test. Yes, this one.

Yes, this one will be very good. Full of dander. Tasty dander. I'm going to regret that for all my days. I'm going to be running for political office sometime when I'm 70 and it's going to have a clip of me going dander. Tasty dander. If any of us ever run for any office, we'll have to immediately reduce or take away all the videos that are out there. I'm pretty sure that doesn't matter. There's someone who will have a picture of you in a ball cap somewhere and go, Dan Hudson loves to steal ball caps from kids. Here's a picture right now. Vote for me. Not safe for Iowa. Not safe for little children. He once wore a crippled Pekingese as a belt. Dan Hudson. Yeah, no doubt. We're not right in the head. Actually, if you run for political office, I will be on the other guy's political campaign. And I will just be in charge of coming up with negative ads against you. I think it'll be fantastic. I appreciate that. My wife appreciates that. When Dan Hudson was 11, he broke bottles behind the Hy-Vee. I brought in Oreo balls and he stole them from me and ate them. Dan Hudson will break Iowa. He wears a t-shirt that says,

And I'll show a picture of the state cut in half. This is his plan. One of us will be Aya, and the other will be Wuh. Be a pansy for Jesus. Vote Dan Hudson. All right. Here, listen to Life in the Path on devoidnetfoot.com. So if we've gotten to something out of this whole conversation, I think it is, if the Bible is clear on one point or says one thing about loving God, it is obeying his commandments is showing love for God. Yeah. If you want reinforcement of that, I would recommend, it's a pretty short read, is to hit 1 John. John, he tucks it away pretty hard and heavy and actually gets to one of the sticking points that I think you'll see a lot of accusations at the Christian church is they try to get you to not obey God's commandments using love as the excuse. Like, we love everybody, so don't do X. Like, that otherwise would be a disobedience to God. So I think this chapter of John, this book of John, actually puts in a pretty good context what the requirements are, is he requires you to love your brother. He doesn't want to see your business until you're loving your brother. In fact, John's pretty harsh. He's like, someone says, I love God, and it still has hate for his brother, is a liar. I mean, John's all about calling people liars in that particular book. Yeah.

This is the soft guy, too. John, he was like the softie. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, he was the one Jesus loved. He was his best friend, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that no one would want to hang around him after he's pretty accusatory. Calling me a liar? Yeah. You are a liar. Hey, John. Liar. Is it a dog in your trunk? Where did you get that car? It's 40 AD. Get out of here, devil. When did the rickshaw go out of vogue? I don't think it was ever in style. It's all I know. So, anyway, actually, if you need a boost on that particular item, I would check out 1 John. It was in Hosea, apparently. In Hosea is a quick read. Yeah, it is. What is it, five chapters or something? Yeah.

Very, very visual. I can't imagine being in Hosea where God says, go ahead and marry that prostitute. As an example. And then let her go be a prostitute again and go buy her back. As an example of Israel's unfaithfulness and God saying, hey, I'm still in. Yeah. You know, I'll forgive you. Yeah. You know what? Like, in all honesty, that would be hard to be that dude and say, Lord, I understand you're trying to prove a point here, but really, do I got to be the guy? I mean, honestly. Is there another prophet out there? Like, I mean, she just, how much is this going to cost me? I mean, honestly. What was this kid's name? Uh, do, do, do, do, do. One, one, uh, do, do, do, do, do. Oh, that's the introduction. Their names, like, mean horrible things. Oh, call his name Not My People. Hey, Not My People, come for supper. I mean, that's terrible. Wow. You are not my people. My kids, Not My People, enemy of Israel, and total disappointment.

I mean, that doesn't fit the stereotypical, you know, little church family with the pastor and his prostitute wife and his child, Not My People. Yeah, really. Let's invite those guys over for dinner. Weren't there three kids? Or not. Yeah. Or not. Not, not. Dan, are you still looking for names of Jose's kids? I'm just, I'm just kind of reading. Trying to decide whether I need to fill silence here or are you looking around? Oh, I thought you guys were talking. I'm just, you know. No, that was me going, trying to fill the void. Okay, here's scene number two, Mike. You're a city, you're an executive. Wait a minute, is the wife still on? Because I don't need a divorce here. Things are going pretty okay at the home front. Yeah, she's still on. Okay, let's do this thing. Okay. So, you're an executive at a mid-level company who's really, who's trying to bust through the top. You have a new clothing line that's coming out.

You're a clothing executive. You're trying to get a, there's a big buy on the line from Nordstrom's. Okay? I'm ready. All right, now, can I, do I smoke a cigar? You're trying to give it up. You switched to a pipe with a potpourri in it. Okay, okay. It's how you live your life. I got that. I think I just threw up a little. Okay, I got that. So, anyway, you're a clothing manufacturer. You're trying to get to buy a Nordstrom's. You're on a late night call with one of the Nordstrom people who's freaking out, who's decided that your line is too risque to carry in their store, which they consider to be family friendly. And you're trying to convince them that your line is what the modern family wants. Are you going to be the other guy? Yeah, I'll be the other guy. Okay, ready? Okay. Ring the line. Okay. Ring-a-ding-a-ding. Ring-a-ding-a-ding.

Hello? This is Mike Foost. Yeah, this is Mike Foost. Hey, Mike Foost. This is Tom from Nordstrom's. You know, me and the board had kind of gotten together, and I think, I'm not sure we're going to be able to take that order that we had otherwise discussed. We really like your clothing line. We really think it's got a certain pop, a certain something, but I'm not sure it really fits with our store. We're a family store, and what you're doing there is, I mean, is awesome, but I'm just not sure it's for our store. Well, I'm sorry to hear that, Tom. Is there anything we can do to change your mind here? Now, I think you didn't quite give the whole clothing line a run-through. Do you have any parts specifically that you thought were inappropriate? I'm sorry. Are you accusing me of not doing my job? Hold on. My potpourri pipe's running low. Just a second. All right. Now, what were you yammering on about, Tom? You know what? To be honest with you, the paper's already drawn up. You're going to pay me my money anyway, and to be honest with you, I don't really care

if you carry the clothes or not. They're going to sell like hotcakes, and if you don't want to have them to happen at your store, then you want to lose money on the whole deal. That's your problem. What did you say your name was again? Timmy. Timmy. Tim. Excuse me. Tom, is your mom around or something? Because I'm assuming that obviously someone has to take care of you, since obviously you don't know how to run a business. So put a real man on a phone. Call me back when you're ready to talk turkey. I just love Jesus. Nordstrom rocks. Mike sucks while I'm out. Scene. Oscar. Oscar. Scene. Thank you. I hung up the phone on you like 20 seconds ago before you threw your tantrum. Oh, really? Thank you. Thank you very much.

Caps for sale. 50 cents a cap. I'm afraid we're going to have to take a two-minute breather to try to realign whatever is going on in here. While we're on a break, please enjoy the following bit of comedy from Life in the Path. Wait, not produced by us. We're just shoveling it on from somebody else. Love it. This isn't funny. I thought it was funny. I thought I remembered it being funny. Ah. Oh. I mean, Jesus on the front is kind of funny. I think I have that t-shirt. The music really annoying to us. Hold on, let me throw it. That's annoying. Did you guys do this background track? Yeah. We can write background tracks for YouTube. Who's the wise guy? It'll be awesome. You're making the fun of me. Hold on a second. Maybe there's going to do something funny at the end.

I'm going to get that pot machine at the church. Just for something else you won't refill. Like the hot tamale machine. Are you getting upset with that? Maybe. I'll get to work on that. All I want to do is give you my money and you won't put any hot tamales in there. I forgot. That's enough of that thing. I thought I remembered it being funny. It's not funny. What was the point? I missed it. What? Jesus is not a vending machine. Like people, it's actually, you talked about this one time. You talked about people going and worshiping ourselves and using Jesus as the helpful crutch. You know, just need a little cash. Jesus was your phrase. You did it. I was pretty smart that day, wasn't I? Need a little cash, Jesus. That's how you did it. Really? In your funny voice. That voice.

Mike, do your impression of Dan. Hi. Hi, this is Dan Hudson. Dan does sound like the Velvet Crush. Call a cell phone. I do. I do sometimes. Yeah. It'll ring seven rings, which means that he's acknowledged your calling, but he knows if he hits the ignore button, it'll go straight to voicemail. Depends if I'm with someone. Yeah. And so he'll let it keep ringing like he's not available. And I'll go, hi. This is Dan Hudson. Please leave me a message. Cheryl made me change the church answer machine because it was like, you've reached the offices, the pathway church. She had all of her friends call in the office. Go, listen to this. I don't know what it is about the phone, but as soon as you get on the phone, it just goes way out the window. I guess I have no professionalism and I'm like, I don't know how to try to sound professional, so I just sound a little effeminate maybe. I don't know. You can't like overdo it.

It's Dan Hudson. What do you want? Hi there. Please leave a message. I'll go back to you. Stop tilting your head like that. I'd love to talk to you. It's distracting. Leave me a private message, please. And your number. I'll return your call. This is a disaster. Oh, man. We're going to have to get that Jesus meter back in here. That's a 10. Oh, yeah. That's a 10 out of 100 on the Jesus meter. They redecorated it and the Jesus meter went away. The Sultry Church Office answering machine is definitely a 10. We were at 95 up until seven minutes ago. I'm going to call it right now. Hey, wait. Can I call it? I think I can call it. Yeah, I should. Hold on.

What's the number, Dan? It is 276-7284. Is that the church office? Yeah. It should be better now. Oh, it's not the same? I mean, it probably is still a little femme and then maybe. Maybe I had Cheryl do it, so it actually was a girl. I'm pretty sure it's me. You reached the offices, the Pathway Church. Can you hear that? Yeah. I hope nobody has it. Awkward. Is that you? That was like take 17. That wasn't bad. No, that wasn't. I had to. That wasn't bad. That wasn't girly. You sound like a carny. It's fairly recent because, you know, I'm going to switch the two surfaces. All of a sudden it hit me. Hold on your cell phone number. Hold on.

Dan, don't answer your cell phone. Hold on. I would answer, Dan. He's going to mock you. Okay, hold on. I haven't even heard this. I did this one years ago. Not from my phone, you doofus. It's probably nine years old, this message. Okay, just a second. Oh, this is Dan Fuss. Let's see if it's as bad as I think it is. Is it to have a crush? Let's call other people. This phone is a hit. Oh, so you're going to. I see. So if I hit ignore, it'll go right to voicemail, right? Maybe. I'll try it. Well, you hear it ringing? Hi, this is Dan Hudson. That's terrible. Hi. Hi, this is Dan Hudson. Hi there.

Oh, gross. Savvy fella. Embarrassing. I'm pretty sure I'll have to redo that. I did that in 2001. That's when I did that message and it's just gone through each phone because, you know, it's not on the phone, obviously. Right. Savvy there. You're listening to Life from the Path on Des MoinesAmplified.com. We are from Pathway Church in Johnston, Iowa, and we do meet at 9 o'clock and 1030 at Wallace Elementary School in Johnston. So we'd like to have you out there. What are you laughing at? The chat talking about me being. Oh, Dan is busy for the next 50 minutes of work. Boo. Don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, if you are looking for a church, we'd love to have you out. This is not a good time to bring that up. We keep running into this where we're like, should we tell them what church we're going to do a church? It's a Baptist church down the road from, uh… You can bring your dog. We prefer it. Please put it in the tithe box.

We have podlucks on Tuesday. Dan, that's not a bad Russian. Dan, you're the king of impressions. You've been holding out on it. I like that. Your drunkard is solid. The Russian's pretty good. Can you do a drunk Russian? Well. Well, vodka, vodka, vodka. I love some vodka. I don't know. I think I need some more. Okay, so every six weeks it falls off the tracks. This is the week. I think this obviously never really got on the track, I'm afraid. Who won the grilled cheese throwdown? It was Liz Lehman. Who? What was in it? I was behind them. I couldn't hear them speak. I think it was like garlic and stuff. I don't know. The winning ingredient. Yeah.

Ooh, you do femme voiceover as well? Is that meant to sound like a Russian? You do a femme voiceover as well? That's not a Russian. Doggone it. How do you do a femme? If I think about it, I won't. This is what helps people. That's how you get it ready. How do you do a drunk femme Russian? Gypsy. Here. This is dead on. I am glad you called the offices of Pathway Church. You sound like a grubber. Don't feed me after midnight. I get all bubbly and stuff. And then other little versions of me pop out. I wait in line for bread. I'm just going to trade it for booze and ask for much. Okay, so what do you guys think of this big sermon series going on? I've been hearing lots of chatter. Not about you guys, but I mean, it's been kind of fun. Yeah, so I guess for those who are unfamiliar, Dan, what is the sermon series? They can call the office and the message will tell you. It's about children.

How to raise your kids. Little boys and girls. And how to raise them properly. Sorry. That's it. So it's raising kids. I think if we… Actually, one of the things that came up in the sermon, this was two weeks ago, and I think the woman and I have been rocking it with the consistency of these kids. Awesome. Of discipline. And it's been very helpful. My child, who is quarrelsome at the dinner table, who is constantly making deals, trying to deal with me. Here, I tell you. Here. Father. Father. I'm going to make you a deal, Dad. I get you a puppy. I will eat two bites of this, and then I will… Her deal today was, she's not allowed to get up out of her chair until she's done eating. The problem is, I ate before she got into the room, and so I'm standing up. And me and the fat baby are dancing. So she goes, here's the deal, Dad. I'll eat one bite of vegetables, and then I'll do a dance.

And then I'll eat another bite of vegetables, and then I'll do a dance. And normally, I would say, yeah, that seems like a pretty solid deal. Vegetables are getting eaten. People are dancing. This sounds like the way to go. It's like a gypsy party. Let's do this thing. Until Ramon comes to the door. You having a party? I dance with your daughter. Get out of here, Ramon. 15 ruples for the two puppies. So, but anyway, I thought, no, no, no. This is setting a bad precedent. I can't tolerate this. So I say, no, you have to eat all those vegetables before you can get up. And boy, she was in that chair for another half an hour, eating one pee at a time. I say, you've got to shove that stuff in, man. It's going to take you forever to eat that. Daddy, come sit with me. I said, I'll sit for a minute. But I mean, I can't hang around today while you're eating the vegetables. But whatever. It's like this week, it's worked very well. She's doing much better. I mean, she still fights a little bit.

But, you know, no matter what happens, you know that you're going to have to eat everything that's there. You know, life goes a little bit easier. So I don't know. That consistency has been going better. Unfortunately, her mom's taking the brunt of it because she told her mom yesterday that she likes daddy best, which I can understand because I'm cool. Well, everybody likes the best. I have an internet radio show and the kids know it. The chat is all over the chat. Yeah, I mean, everybody everywhere knows that I do internet radio for Jesus. And so, but anyway, she told her mom that. And until now, you know, she's fighting with her mother a little bit. But, you know, and so I have to enforce the things that she's, like, not doing that her mom has asked her to do. And it stunk because she had no story tonight. And I hate that because I like the story. I like to give the stories. Luckily, she can find it on the internet. Yeah. No, he'll just tell me later. So I actually did the exact same thing a couple times this week. Yeah. We've been having an issue with the daughter going to bed properly. And, you know, she has a rule because she stays up like an hour or two later than after I put her to bed. She's just in her room doofing around. And so we said we've got to put a stop to it. And I said, you know, you can stay up as late as you want.

But no, no, you can't turn your light on. You can't get out of your bed. And I don't want to hear you. If you can come up with something fun to do with those criteria, then you can stay up. And so, you know, she goes to bed or whatever. And then I always check on her two hours later. And a couple times this week I saw a light on or I saw some toys out that I knew wasn't out before. And so I thought, you know, so the next day I had to wait until I came home from work. And I said, I'm sorry, but you broke the rules. So no stories tonight. And she got very upset. And then she threw a bit of a tantrum about it. And I said, well, now you can't have the radio tonight. Would you like to try for more? And she got the point. And it's been going very well. She doesn't like the radio show nights. She gets very upset because I put her to bed every night except for the night where we do the radio show. And she gets very upset and pleads and says, I want you to stay home. And, of course, that just, oh, that's awful. Daddy, Daddy, I want you to stay. I love you, Daddy. It's a disaster. Sit with me. I have to. And I say, but I have to.

We're going to go talk about God. And we're going to go, you know, trying to reason with a three-year-old kid. Exactly. You're like, we're doing the Lord's work. You know, Dad's going out. Whatever, Dad. It's for Jesus. You don't want to trust me. This is what you've done. You said, we're doing the Lord's work. And you've been talking about barbecue and puppies. Carnies, gypsies. I didn't put it. Prostitution. I didn't put it that way. You really shined her on. I didn't put it that way. Actually, I had the, I don't know what I was doing last night, but my daughter was sitting in the kitchen, and she goes, Dad, don't you want to come over and do this with me? She was like, painting or whatever. I was like, well, not really. I was reading. I said, no, not right now, really. And she goes, but then I'll be alone. Do you want me to be alone, Daddy? If you don't come over here, I will be alone.

And I'm like, oh, man, I go paint. I do the paint with the numbers and stuff. I love to paint. Oh, man, the kid got me. Yeah, she's got me. Those are the toughest. I don't know whether it's been just like an overly emotional past couple weeks or whatever because of some random stuff going on. But I keep hearing songs about your daughter growing up and getting married away. And I drive around going, oh, no. Man, I don't want to blink of the eye. I will dance with Cinderella. I just don't understand it. Like, I seem to hear those songs all the time now. And I'm like, I don't want my kids to move away. I like them kids. You know, man? Well. That's how you keep them in. Does that say dads against daughters dating? Yes, it does. You're a hit with the kids, Dan. Yes. Is that your dad? He's awesome. He totally knows how to stick to his morals.

There's nothing that I like better than a moral dad. I guess not to give away because I think this is coming up, Dan. But what was the age at which you allowed dating in your house? For us, 16. 16 on the dot? Yeah. Did Danielle date right at 16? Did she, like, find someone to date right away? She didn't, like, put the word out or anything. But see, here's the beauty of this. Because everybody starts, I don't know, different ages, 9, 10, 12. It starts really middle school, starting everybody's dating everybody for five minutes at a time, you know? And by the time they've gotten to 16, everybody already knows, okay, she can't date anyway. Right. And what they do is they miss out on a lot of the junk that the kids aren't prepared for. They're not mentally prepared for the stuff that goes with it, you know? Yeah. All the hormones that are flying and it's just a different world now anyway. But even besides all the junk that's out there, they're just not, they're not prepared for those kinds of adult situations. So it's like, well, why put them in it? You know, we said you could do group dating. I mean, you could go out with a group of multiple people. Yeah. But not, like, you two out to a movie alone type thing. Or have a boyfriend type thing. I mean, I know she did some, like, Danielle, who's older now.

I know she, but, you know, it wasn't a, we didn't like, I heard, you know. You were holding hands with Luke. Exactly. Get out to the ruler, you know. Nothing like that. But, you know, our goal as parents has been to teach our daughters, we have two daughters, to be very comfortable with themselves and with their God so that it doesn't matter if they have a guy or not. You know, there's so many girls, their whole existence centers around, I'm only complete if I'm with a guy. You know, once they get complete with them and God, then the guy thing works out fine, you know. And it's not their, their identity isn't all wrapped up in. I'm trying to teach my wife the exact opposite. That she needs me. I am your identity. She needs me for things and I will decide the path on which we are taking. You know, and now as you guys have daughters, I'm at the age now, or Shanna's at the age now, who's 13, where as a dad, part of my biggest job now is, and we've done all the nurturing and the loving, I mean, and that stuff. But, but now it's like, I've got to give positive male touch, if that makes sense, a hug, an embrace, even just a, hey, good job, whatever. And the girls need that positive touch from their dads, otherwise they'll go find it somewhere else. Right. You know, and, and probably not in a positive way because they won't have the boundaries in, you know, either the guy won't have the boundaries or whatever, they'll somehow be convinced it's, you know, we don't need those boundaries. Right. And so part of my job now as a dad is just, just very positive touch. Well, and I think that's, I think that's important because I think there's a time in a, in a, there's a time in a young girl's life when, when I think the, there's probably a point where the dad starts to get uncomfortable. Like she's becoming more, more of a woman. Well, sure. And, and, and the dad. And it is awkward.

And he doesn't know where he fits in her life anymore. This is my baby. Yeah. What are those things sticking out? Yeah. I mean, honestly, you're just like, whoa, whoa. Oh, well, uh, okay, uh, hug in the back. You know, yeah, yeah. I don't. And then you kind of get us like, okay, whatever. Right. And get all natural with it. But, um, yeah, but as it was huge, hugely important. Yeah. And, and like Shannon's at the age now, all the guys are really noticing her. Right. I mean, I mean, she's, she's kind of a little cutie and, and, um, you know, so we told her like when she was two. Oh, by the way, when you're 16. So it wasn't like all of a sudden we popped it on her. Oh, well, the guys, you know, so she's known her whole life, you know. And, and we use it with her, we say, oh, hey, this is your protection. Some, all these guys are going to ask out, you just say, hey, I can't tell I'm 16. So you don't have to worry about it. It's, it's, it's no stress. You just, you just can't do it. You just, you focus on school and, and, you know, having fun and don't worry about all the guy stuff.

And, and it's been very freeing for our girls, um, because, you know, they have friends that are just guy crazy. And like Danielle, she's, you know, going to be 21 now. So she's, um, at the age where all these guys are after her. Yeah. And, uh, which is kind of fun. But, um, especially since I'm 12 hours away, so I don't have to watch it. Right. But, um. You need a punching bag. Exactly. Hey, hey, you. Hello, unknown guy. What was I going to say? I had something really good to say there. But, uh, yeah, I don't know what I was going to say. And the big payoff is. I got distracted. All these guys, all these names are popping up. Oh, you. Ronald. You look like. You look like you. You look like you. Keep believing my daughter. No, at 21, it's a whole different ballgame. Because now she understands.

She's in a mature state where she's like, okay, now I'm really looking for a life partner. I'm not, I'm not just looking for someone to hang out with and make out with and, you know, whatever. The stuff you're thinking that when you're 16 or 18 or whatever, it's, it's, it's, it's a much better place. And that's, that's healthier for them. And, and the guys are more mature, to be honest, as well. Because they're. We kind of mature slower. Yeah, as mature as, as guys get. And look at us. We're very mature. Yeah. I mean, come on. I mean. Dan's got a slick shirt on. Exactly. Yeah. We talked about gypsies for a while. Maturity oozes out of us. We did. We handled that. We handled that topic with maturity. With, with age. Hey, so I only had two people on the chat that would respond to it. What age did you first date? And they're both from the same family. I can't believe I got 50 people watching and I, and no one wants to volunteer when they

were the age. My first girlfriend was, I was 16. 16? Yeah. And that, that, that, so far the chat is at 16. Vance is a junior prom. 50, uh, Allison's 15. I mean, I was in second grade and I was madly in love with someone. So it wasn't like I didn't think it, but I just, for whatever reason, just didn't mess with it. You were ugly, Dan. Maybe that was, I was, I was afraid they'd go, you're too effeminate. Go, go chase the boys. You were the smelly, smelly Dan Hudson. I'd like to ask you out. This is Dan Hudson. Uh, I, I actually, I, I'm pretty sure that I didn't go on a legitimate date until I was 20. And I, I married the only woman I've ever dated. Like, I'm one, one lady and I'm it. I, I, I've had, I've had no other. Cheryl's really my second real relationship. I've had, you know, random dates and stuff, but it was. Yeah. So I had one long one, 16 to what, 19 and a half or whatever, long enough for me to know what I didn't want.

So when Cheryl came along, she was like the, had everything that I was looking for. And I was like, Oh, what am I, you know, just cool. You know, she had a longer relationship too. And, and, uh, so some guy who broke up with her cause he, he thought she'd be a horrible preacher's wife. He was going to be a preacher. He called her drunk one night. I want to, I'm, I'm going to go into ministry. Like, you might be a rotten preacher's wife. She's like, what? What drunk boy? I'm at a communion wine tasting. I was supposed to spit it out. To have been there and try to process that in her mind is like, are you serious? Is this a serious conversation? What are you supposed to say to that? I know exactly. Oh no, I'd be excellent. And I saw her and I thought, wow. I mean, I wasn't like looking for the preacher's wife. I was looking for someone who would marry me, but also understanding that I was already preaching. I was looking for someone who would marry me. Anybody, somebody, what are you looking for in a gal? Anybody that would marry me. Just someone who could hang in. Be awesome with you.

But you know, I was already preaching by that time. So it wasn't like going to be a shock, you know, I mean, uh, like, oh. You know, that's got to be a little different to sign on to be a preacher's wife. You know what I'm saying? Like that's not just signing up, you know, for a life partnership with a dude and saying, okay, we're going to do this thing. Like that, it takes a lot to be it. You know, I, my, my grandma was one and, and, uh, you know, I've known some and, and, uh, it's a different kind of role and they're kind of like the, like the unsung heroes of the operation, you know? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I remember my first girlfriend, I was there watching her play quarters one night thinking to myself, that's probably not really the, the, that probably really isn't the preacher's wife, uh, thing. Because she plays quarters? You're harsh on ladies. Well, she was getting pretty intoxicated. Oh, maybe I don't know what quarter it is. What did you think it was? Just people throwing quarters. Creps. Wait, do you have to, oh, you, oh, you're drinking it. Oh! I see, quarter and cup and then booze it now? Yeah.

Oh, I was just thinking without the booze. I was thinking in Jesus terms. Whoever misses has to read a Bible verse. Jesus never played quarters. Boy, I'm ultra lame. I didn't realize how lame I was to just now. We're going to read Ecclesiastes. Ecclesiastes. Come on, man, just make it. I hate Ecclesiastes. If you can smell, spell Thessalonica without any others. Wow. That's gold. Let me need to flag that. Dan knew what quarters was. Ben had no idea. Wait a minute. You made the quarters and then the booze? Oh! I didn't know it. What do you want me to do? I don't know any drinking games. I suppose that's a positive. Yeah, that's, I mean, I don't, I don't know that because I hung out with her at her sister's house and I watched them play and I'm like, all right. Don't take this wrong, Dan, but what was in my mind was someone from like the 1940s, like very, very maturely and innocently throwing quarters into cups. Gee, Wally, do you want to play quarters?

I got to go home, Dan. Thanks for a wonderful time at the carnival. You just stuck a new baseball card in my spikes. You want to ride home, Mary? I'm a new bike. Have you ever rode one of those bicycles built for two? When I was, I think when I was younger. Some dude from school did. Never did. Where did that come from? Speaking of quarters. We were talking about bikes. Oh. Have I ever ridden a bicycle built for two? No. Not, not, well, I think once when I was younger. Mike, have, are you, have you ever ridden a bicycle built for two, Mike? I don't want to talk about it if this is going to be your attitude. Skip. Hey, man. So, so, so, so, uh, uh, Joe Conner in small group, uh, tells a story about him. He was out, he was out late at night. Well, what were we talking about? First of all, we were talking about, it was part of the children's series. So we were talking about like the time that you got in a lot of trouble and how your parents handled it. Yeah.

Yeah. So, so. It's all confidential, right? Small group. Yeah. What? Uh, hold on. His name is Barry Goldwater. So anyway, he's done some real stuff. Okay. So anyway, so he goes, he, he, he goes with his buddies and he's playing skip bow with his friends, right? And he gets violently ill after eating something. A skip bow, that's like cards, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so anyway, so his dad calls and he's like. No, is that when they have. He's like, dad, I can't come, I can't make a home. And his dad thinks he's drunk. And this is when he gets in big trouble. His dad thinks he's drunk at this other guy's house and can't come home. And really he's playing, he's eating like nachos and playing skip bow and stuff. Those darn kids. Every time I turn around, it's skip bow. There'll be no skip bow in this house. Get a switch. What's the, wait, what's the, what's the, what am I thinking of?

What's the game where you put the cards down and you put another one on top of it? Flapjack. No, I was thinking Uno. Uno, man. But the new Uno, where it's like the, it spits it out. Yeah. Dude, he just called you a fuzzball. He says, fuzzball. That's pretty childish, Vance. It's not my fault you played skip bow. What do you want me to do? Those are my rebellious years. I don't know. Now it's back to where I belong. Oh, it's from, oh, it's from Star Wars. Nerd. Oh, laughing up, fuzzball. I remember that. It's the, uh, what's that guy's name? Well, good night, Richard. Thanks for, thanks for popping in. Sorry, he just said hello. What's that, what is it? You're kind of saying. The Wookiee. The Wookiee.

Oh. I'm not going to do it again. Chewie. Chewie. Yeah, yeah. Left foot up, fuzzball. Remember he turned around? I've seen Star Wars. It's been a while for me. Yeah. We always watch it at our skip bow tournaments. I don't know. I don't know, Dan. Was there a time when you were growing up that, like, you got in a ton of trouble for something that you didn't do? Like, when did you get in the most trouble for something that you shouldn't have been in trouble for? See, you know, I was the baby of the family, and I was Mr. Innocent for the most part. I just didn't, I mean, the biggest thing I ever did was in junior high, threw in the bottles, and I did that, and that was just like a major disappointment. She didn't even know what to do with me. I was just like, really? Really? You just did that? And I was, my biggest thing was, crap, I've got to rebuild trust, you know, and that. I was just, I was just killing it. What kind of 13-year-old goes, crap, I've got to rebuild trust?

You're an odd duck. I was an odd duck since fourth grade, or before. When you realized how cool your first name was, I'm Dan. And I love being there. There's songs about me. Dare to be a Daniel. How many people have Dare to be a Mike? Don't remember that one. Mike, I want to be like Mike? Oh, that's different, yeah. It's popular. This goes back hundreds of years. That's the difference. This is a hymn. So much better. You stole a name from a famous biblical character. That's what happened. Well, it was given to me. God is my judge. I took that seriously. I was like, crap, I better watch what I'm doing. God is my judge. I really did. I was like, I've always been weird. This is me right here. This is the song that's got my…

Some people got cool names and cool songs. This is me. Hold on. That brings a tear to my eye. It really does. It's Michael Jackson, and it's about his rat named Ben. That's Michael Jackson? Yeah. Wow. When he was little. It's a young one, yeah. He's a little duck. I don't remember this one. It's called Ben. Oh. Little Jackson fire. Now, here was a disappointment. I'm pretty sure that when we were dating, my wife listened to this song and thought of me. And I don't know what to do with that. My wife listened to Hip to Wear. Here, there, and everywhere. And thought of you? Yeah. I'm square. You get it? That's pretty hip.

Yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a pretty good song. It was. It is. Huey Lewis and the News are some cheesy individuals, but they put out some good tunes. Yeah. How did we end up with Huey Lewis and the News' greatest hits? Engeldinger always said when I led worship, it was kind of a Huey Lewis style. He was trying to figure out what kind of style is, you know, not my voice, but, you know, energy or whatever. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I like to sing about the moon and the June and the spring. That's terrible. I regret it. I haven't done that in a while. I got to get my dance on. Every once in a while, it's just like a beast of burden. You'll have to play a little skip bow first. That helps loosen you up. I'm ready. I don't even know what skip bow is. Don't catch me.

I go crazy. What is it? I've played it. I can't remember. It's some card game. I seem to think it's an Uno type of thing. Yeah. Getting the groove back. Doesn't it have like a special skip bow deck, though, I think? I don't remember. Like bridge? There's a bridge deck? I can't tell. I don't know. I don't know how to play a card game. You know, that seems very, a very difficult game, bridge. Do you know it? Is that the one where they put all the hints in the paper? Yeah. They're like, you're this does this. And I'm like, man, I don't have any idea what you're talking about. Gorn on bridge. Are you done? The tunes are off, man. Yeah, I know. I meant to do it while the stuff was playing, and I hate it.

So you might as well catch up. I'm going to tell you something. It's passed you by. Whatever you thought you were going to be when you were younger, it's not going to happen. I did it in slow motion. You did it slower. You didn't do it in slow motion. All right. All right. You can listen to Live from the Path on MoineAmplified.com. Thanks so much for being with us here tonight. If you want to catch us during the week, you can at livefromthepath.org. There are clips from our archive shows, links to the YouTube channel, which has caps for sale, our only entry in our current Tales from the Path series. I would recommend you check it out and be prepared for, oh, no, what happened? I don't know. Everything died. Oh. Okay, wait. We're working on it. All right. This is back. God doesn't like Huey Lewis. Fair enough. But wait, that's a small g, so it's okay. Okay.

All right. Anyway, whatever. Don't go to the website. Never mind. Seems like a problem. God says no. There's clips from our last week's show, which was a bit heavier than this week's show. That was a heavy one. Yeah. A lot of comment, feedback on that. Yeah. So, I guess if I can touch it for just a second, I really appreciate everybody that listened to the show last week, our show on suicide. We've had a lot of good conversations, I think, even outside of the show this past week from some of the clips that we've put on. And I appreciate you guys kind of interacting with us on that. It wasn't all that easy of a show for us to do, kind of a tougher subject. So, we appreciate you hanging out for that. It's tough to go from the suicide show to the carnies and the gypsies. Yeah. It might be a bit of a slingshot operation, like we pulled the string back so far to do the suicide, and it's kind of bouncing back with this carny operation. But anyway, I do appreciate you guys interacting with that. As stuff comes up, one of the things that we said we would do when we started the show was that we're just some dudes that are trying to follow the path to Christ. And, you know, sometimes that path ends you up and stuff where maybe you don't want to

talk about it. It's not a pleasant thing to talk about, but it's a detriment to, I think, everybody by not having the conversation. So, whatever. That stuff might come up from time to time. So, I appreciate you hanging out with that. I hope you got something out of it. I know we did. Anyway, check it. You can go to the website. We're not done yet. I'm just saying. We should have Huey Lewis on this program. I think we should. You think he would come on? Is he still alive? Yeah. He was at the Meadows. Prairie Meadows? Yeah. Man, he was in town. He could have seen us. We should have gone to him, but he could have had the pleasure. I can't believe he didn't stop by on his own accord. He probably said, oh, those are guys live in the path, guys. I don't want him.

So, we're going to. He's going to play quarters. You know, that would be classic if Huey Lewis showed up on the show and goes, you guys want to play quarters? Oh, you mean that alcohol? Can't you play without alcohol? Well, that sounds amazing. What's the Bible verse? With sodium pudding cups? I think we ought to do that and see if we can't make that fly. We'll do it in Sunday school. Teach all the kids to play quarters. Yeah, I'm sure that'll catch on like wildfire. Okay, everybody learn a proverb. Hey, man, there's a new group at our high school and they don't even say we need the booze. They say Diet Pepsi will do. Prop. Get him, Jimmy. You know what, Mike, you were saying? Oh, sorry. About what? What were we talking about? I know, he said we're going to and then nothing. I interrupted you. Oh, we're going to do that hot chocolate deal? Yeah, we're totally doing that.

So here's, that's why I ran this by the wife. She said no one's going to participate. What do you mean? That's sad. Like it all hinges on people. I want to know who's got the city's best hot chocolate. And here's the deal. How about, okay, how about this for the contest, right? We'll get hot chocolates from a few vendors or whatever in the town and we'll try them. Can we get them from that one gal that was serving confectionaries at the Midwest Music Festival? She's from Rosalind's Coffee and Delights. No, she's from Illinois. We could get it shipped in, I guess. Well, we'll call it the nationwide search. We'll say it's a nationwide search for the best hot chocolate. Why don't we try it within our 10, 15 mile radius to get enough hot chocolate here to make a contest? Because I've got to go ask people to do it. We can make it regional. Yeah, whatever. Then we'll have a world. Listen here, I just want some free hot chocolate. And the people that win, first of all, if you win, I'll buy the hot chocolate. I'll pay for the one that wins. Doesn't that seem reasonable? That's like those guys that have these huge contests. If you eat a 49-pound burger, then you get it for free.

But it takes you $200 to buy it. It's like, well, how many people buy it? So you give one away after six years. We don't have much to offer here, but what if they can be a free sponsor on the show the following week? Sponsored by the following month. Yeah. Wait, but what if it's a conglomerate? Do we still have to do it? Yeah, that's fine. I mean, let's say it turns out to be the Caribou Coffee. Best hot chocolate in Des Moines is voted by Life in the Path. Okay, how many people do we have to get to participate for it to be a legitimate? Five test. I want five different hot chocolates. Wait a minute. Now, do they each have to bring three a piece? Well, I don't care if they bring one and they just give a smaller thing. That's fine. All right. We can't drink that much hot chocolate. And frankly, we're not supposed to have drinks in here. So we're going to have to talk to somebody. I think we can get it passed, though. We're fairly responsible guys. We trust Jesus. Maybe that'll help.

But does Jesus trust you? That's the question. I've never seen Jesus with your t-shirt on. He's for Ben. He's for me. That's right. Where is it? It's on YouTube. I got to cue that clip up. That's my favorite of all time. Wait, do I have that one? I don't know if I still have that one hanging out. Hold on. Anyway, while I'm looking. So what do you think, Mike? Are you going to do it? Can you get him? I don't even know how to broach the subject. What do you mean? Hi, I'm Mike from Life from the Path. We're going to have the best hot chocolate in town contest coming up. Want to know if you wanted to participate? You still have those two business cards we got? Yeah. Yeah. Just say, look.

I need to have that back. What's it going to cost them? Nothing. It costs them like a buck to make the hot chocolate. They can send some goofball down here with a hot chocolate. We'll put them on there. We can interview them. Have them talk a little about their place. We've got to use this for our advantage. Yeah. They're going to be like everybody else that we invited here. They'll talk for an hour. They'll be perfectly fine. They'll go, how many viewers we got? And they'll say 15. And they'll go, no. Then they shut down. There's big viewers on this hot chocolate off. This is going to be awesome. All right. We're going to do it. First week of December. Hot chocolate. Hot chocolate fest. Okay, fine. Let's do it.

I like it. I will talk to some people. We'll talk about our territories. We'll start in verse 3. It says, when I am afraid, I will trust in you. In God, whose word I praise. In God, I trust. I will not be afraid. What can mortal man do to me? I love that. I love that part. It's a while and twice. I think what struck me is in the prayer room. I'll fight it. I'll fight it later on. I'll get to it later. Usually we like to take the last five minutes of the show and do Ben's narcissist hour. Where Ben plays clips of himself previously that he enjoyed. Let me show you a few things that I really like about myself. I don't know if you realize how great I am. I feel like when I said this. Past performance is definitely indicative of future games. Listen to my voice inflection on this one. I really hit it home. Notice how Dan was very effeminate during that clip. And I was strong and manly.

Actually, you guys don't know this, but when I go through and I post the show, I detune my voice just a little bit so I sound a little bit more hefty. Nice. You are listening to Live for the Pants. Live for the Pants. Velvet Crush. That is not manly. No, no, no. It has to be brought fresh. Why do you want to sully this experiment? Why does the chat want to bother me? No, it will be warm. It does have to be hot chocolate. And I tell you what, chat, I will take a homemade submission. If someone is around and you want to create. Now listen here. I don't want any kind of roofie or anything in it. That's classic. They come in, drop off the hot chocolate, and then it's two hours. Let's do this. Then Dan can wake up as a drunk Russian. Anybody that said was the best. We ought to have a Chatter of the Year contest by the end of the year, you know, with ending our first calendar year. What's the prize? They get to come on the show?

They don't want to be on the show. That's why they don't have to. We'll come up and make a T-shirt. What's the criteria for being Chatter of the Year? We'll get them a donkey T-shirt that says Chatter of the Year or something. I chatted on Live from the Path with a donkey on it. Okay. Free T-shirt. Got it. We ought to be doing T-shirts anyway. What's wrong with us? I'm about to sneeze again. Heads up. You want to use my shirt? I'm holding it back. Now, listen here. I tell you what. I'll throw it out there to you people that are chatting. I take away points for how often you're rearranging babysitters and small group scheduling in the chat. That takes away from Jesus. That's a demerit. Although, that's… Just say Live from the Path gave me a free T-shirt. Okay. Yeah, we need to get a shirt.

I listen to this stupid program and all that's a free T-shirt. I've never heard of Live from the Path, but they gave me this shirt. Because nobody listens. Maybe we should make a shirt that says, Skip Bo, you know? Don't put a question on me. Bummer. Okay. We need a T-shirt designer. T-shirt's got it. Hey, put Vance on it. You think Vance designs a shirt? Yes. We can't pay. We don't generate any money. We're not going to pay him. Tell him we're not going to pay him. He can have some hot chocolate if he can get in here on time. Hey, tell him we're Live from the Path. We're not Rich from the Path. We just changed the show of Poor from the Path. Poor from the Path. Skip Bo. It's all I know. I don't know. Alice is making waves.

The chatter of the air. Classic. Man. I'm going to die in that line. It's going on my tombstone. Mike Foost. It's all I know. It's all I know. People throwing Skip Bo cards on there. Boy. He would have wanted it this way. It would seriously be awkward if we had a hot chocolate contest and someone slipped as a Mickey. And then they're like, we were out. That would be weird. And then they came in and tried to talk on our bad. Okay, listen. I don't know that anybody that's going to come down here is going to spend the money on a Mickey. And roofie us out. It costs big money to buy roofies. I don't know. I guess I don't know. What's a roofie cost? Ten bucks? If you can find the street value of the roofie. What is it? Rohypnol?

Isn't that the… I think you better just call it roofie. Wait. Joel Kahn? Or Barry Goldwater? Do you have anyone in your family that can price some Rohypnol? I'm just wondering. I need to know who's at my throat. Anyway. Okay. All right. Hot chocolate contest. All right. Fine. I'll ask people. Hey. Actually, next week, chat. When you guys come back next week, can you try some hot chocolates and throw some out there so we're not getting the scaf? Like, I don't want to get a bunch of nasty hot chocolate in here. Yeah. Let's only ask the people. We'll say, look, our listeners recommended you as someone who would be a good hot chocolate. Like, do I want to try, like, gas station hot chocolate? No Swiss mist. No homemade hot chocolate.

We should have some of the listeners out here to test it first to make sure. We should have other people test it. Yeah. That's what we should do. No. Because we're pretty valuable. We don't want to get hurt. I will buy you a hot chocolate. That's a ridiculous foray just to get a free eight-cent cup of hot chocolate. How many people do we have for the contest? Well, but you got five people with five purveyors of hot chocolate and another three people testing plus us three. We can barely fit the three people we have in here. We'll put them out in the hallway. And yell at them through the glass? They can hear it. Yeah. It's got audio out there. It's at a time delay. It's going to be awkward. What does it taste like? Oh. As opposed to the non-awkward stuff that we've done all night. Exactly. What's next? We're going to have a Dorito contest?

Who makes the best Doritos? People bring in Doritos and I'll eat them. Who barbecues the best dog? I'm just saying, there's opportunity. This is unabashed ridiculousness. Hey, Vance tried to get Jimmy John's off me today. I tried to get Jimmy John's off you. And you did too. That's right. And you refused to buy. I was going to go to Jimmy John's and I ended up going to Elmari. Let's go to Jimmy John's after the show. I didn't bring my wallet. Are they still open? Isn't that nice? I don't know. I think so. Jimmy John's. I like Jimmy John's. All right, whatever. You're riveting. I'm still playing in the background. Hold on. Wait, wait. Here comes my good spot. Here I go.

You know what? Why don't you guys just watch this 10-hour clip I made of my highlights. I have my personal website. I love Ben.com. I wish someone would take over the video editing. Oh, I guess I'll have to do it. You've been listening to Live from the Path on the Point. F5.com. Also known as the Ben Show. Thanks for listening. Again, you can catch us during the week at livefromthepath.org. Please sign up for the newsletter. I would appreciate it if you signed up. It's pretty solid. Well, you know, whatever. I put some work into it. Recipes. So please sign up for the newsletter. You can do that at livefromthepath.org. You can see performances from past bands. We have another band coming in somewhere towards the end of the month. We'll be glad to have them in. Hot chocolate contest coming up at the start of December. And next week, a fresh Tales from the Path featuring the story Dan the Dunce. Hey, they've got to go to our YouTube and check that out. It sounded so much better on a personal computer because it cut half of it out.

Yeah, you can go to Caps for Sale, which is on our YouTube channel. It's our first Tales from the Path. And please check that out. It's getting a lot of buzz. In the industry. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, please go check that out. If you'd like to be a seat filler at our award show, please let me know. Yes, yes. All right. Again, thanks for listening. We will see you next week from 10 to midnight on Des MoinesAppleified.com. What are we talking about next week? We're talking about how to witness to the unwitnessable. Yeah. Are we? That's the topic. All right. Thanks for listening. I love these guys. Have a wonderful week.