Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper, you are Live from the Path. People are talking about it. There's whisperings going on everywhere, and they're saying, look, I need to know more about this intern or burn. Oh, man. I love it. Intern or burn. That's funny. That sounds intense. Yeah, it is intense. So the premise of the game is that Daniel Hudson, the summer intern here at Pathway Church, is going to be subject to a quiz. And it's either intern or burn. This will be scary. We'll see how you do against the intern. Chat, you want to play along? Wait a minute. So I'm no consequence guy? I can throw all guesses left and right. Nothing will happen to me? Yeah, you can say whatever. I'm a staple. Yeah. Okay, I'm in. Here's some real trouble. Shall we bring in the torch? I'm going to guess Habakkuk. That will not go well on the Women of the Bible quiz. Maybe not.

Oh, is that what the quiz is on? This one. Disaster. I only know the doodly dudes. All right, so we're going to do Secular for Solomon, a little bit of intern or burn. Question of the week, which, Chat, you can start thinking about this now. We'll talk here in a few minutes. The question is, it's graduation season. It smells of progress for the children. And the question is, is when you graduated, what advice should someone have given you? Looking back on your life, on where you're at right now, what should someone have said to you when you were graduating that would have made an impact on your life? Knowing what you know about how your life has gone since then. So think about that. We're going to talk about that. It can be a spiritual thing. It can be just a general life thing. So be thinking about that. We'll talk about that here in a little bit. Socks are not a keepsake. When it's time for them to go, they're time to go. There's no reason to hold on to them too long. Why would you let them go? Well, if they get holes in them or whatnot. It's a smelly. They could be sock monkeys. Sock monkeys? Little puppets.

What happens at your house, Daniel? No, where's my sock monkeys? I love my monkey. Disaster. Yeah, so think about that. We're catching up. We're on the home stretch of our end of days. Yeah, we're trying. Here's the thing is that I can't stop talking about this end of days. And we're going to try not to get entrenched in it again this week because we get buried in it and then we can't dig our way out because I love it. I don't know why I like it so much, but to be honest with you, the best thing that's come out of this is it has brought about more Jesus conversations for me in the last two weeks than for any other reason. Like the end of days, the end of all time seems to bring about people's want to know exactly what's going on in the world of God. And so, I don't know. I mean, if you have two legs to stand on and are talking to the Lord semi-consistently, you should be able to say something that can bring someone closer to Christ. Sure, yeah. And so, the end of days, as much as it looks like it's on the same league as Westboro Baptist as being crazy religious fanatics, which indeed it is, but I have a lot more ability to speak to the truthfulness of the Bible on this subject than I do the craziness of the Westboro Baptist folks. What is kind of an open door people are talking about? They're curious because even if you're like thinking, yeah, this isn't going to happen, in the back of your mind, I could see it being like, well, you know, maybe you've read the Bible more than I have, but what do you think? Right, right. You know, that opens up some doors. Yeah, so it's been really interesting. I really, you know, frankly, I've been enjoying it because it just makes it a lot easier. You know, it's hard to weasel God into a lot of everyday conversations without coming off as the Hallmark Christian guy. And so, I don't know, when they bring it up already and then they look at you for answers, at least you've got something to say. So what's the appropriate thing to wear on Saturday?

I mean, if it is the day. Nothing. Go out like you came in. Dust to dust. Kind of a joke thing, isn't it? I'd say so. Naked I came from my mother's womb, naked I will depart. Did he do that? Did he get down to brass knuckles and then start rolling around? Well, that's what he said. After the Lord infested him with boils? Maybe he just wanted to count the boils to see how mad the Lord really was. Man, yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know. Like, if you truly thought it was the end of days, you think God still put up with your sense of humor? Like you try to do something funny? I don't know. I think you better just be ready for it. Yeah. That wasn't funny. You're out. I often wonder. That is the time when I question how funny I am is if I'm trying to pull a joke, would the Lord laugh? Because my wife is not a good barometer. No. I said, so here's what I found out, right? So I don't really – I'm pretty sure that I don't change when I'm around people.

But I think my wife, she tried to accuse me of being different around people. But really what I think it is is that she becomes cognizant of how embarrassing I am when there are other people around. Yeah, her meter is more sensitive when you as a couple are around people. Yeah. Yeah, because we went – we were in Omaha overnight for a birth that she was helping with. And we went to this restaurant or some kind of like all-natural food restaurant with grass-fed beef and all this business. And like I swear to work there, you had to have pants that did not go below your ankle. Like everybody – every person in there was wearing like shorty pants. I think completely unintentionally. It was just how they dressed there. And I may have made a comment. And I think my wife – Yeah, may have made a comment. I found that was like really weird because we were in company. Now, I could have said that without other people there. And I don't think she would have noticed anything. So far from being different with other people around, I think my wife is just more cognizant of how embarrassing I am while amongst others. You know, this didn't even cross my mind. But I went to – It's not a uniform. I went to my daughter's school orientation. I want to work here. You've got to look like a dunce. I went to my daughter's school orientation today, and I met the principal for the first time. And he came up and shook my hand, and he said, Hi, I'm so-and-so or whatever. I'm the principal.

And I said, Hi, how you doing? I'm Mike. Mike Foost, you know. And he goes, Boy, you look familiar. And I said, Yeah, I'm famous. I'm on the internet, you know. And I didn't even cross my mind that perhaps he's a fan of the show. Hello, gracious principal. Highly unlikely. I said – I said – After the awkwardness had lapsed after I said I was famous, I thought, Well, that's kind of callous on me. So I said, Well, most likely there's just another ugly dude rolling around looking like me in this side of town. So that's no problem there, you know. But I never crossed my mind. Maybe he enjoys the radio show. Let me ask you this. Do you ever trouble introducing yourself as a guy who has a radio show given like what we do and how we do it? Because like to say, Hey, man, I'm on the radio, that's pretty – people automatically assume like a Steve Days kind of guy or like a talk radio guy. And then we say, Well, no, actually, I broadcast on internet radio from the church with a bunch of webcams once a week. Yeah, in a studio that we've put together. Yeah, see. A window in it that we found in the trash. I've done a – A men's room guy is our logo. I've done it both ways. Like I've said – I said, Well, you know, because I'll say – you know, they'll say, What have you been doing with yourself?

I said, I don't know. You know, I've got some church stuff doing. I say, Like, What? And I'll say, You know, we do a radio show at the church. They say, Really? What station? And I'm like, Oh, no. And I say, Well, sometimes it's on AM 940. You know, and then it broadcasts live, you know, Monday nights, this and that. And they're like, Well, where does it broadcast live? And then I have to tell them it's on the internet. And because as soon as someone tells me that they're on the internet, I'm like, Well, every Joe Schmoe with two shoes and a thumb is on the internet doing something, you know, doing the two shoe and thumb show with Steve, you know. And so it's kind of embarrassing. But I don't know if it takes – I think it used to take away the legitimacy more than it does now. Like they kind of seem to filter these people out a little bit more where they're not quite as mainstream, but I don't know. So there's a lot of big stuff happening, like in this type of setting, though. I mean, I have nothing really to follow up with that. But just, you know, just trying to give us some credibility that I really can't. Well, let me just say. Excellent insight. I concur. Next. Okay. I don't know. What's the plan? Do you want to do a game first? Let's do – you want to do a game?

Let's do one game. Okay. Let's go ahead and fire up Intern or Burn. Mike, I'm going to pull up the questions here. Go ahead and do some kind of introduction to Intern or Burn so that people will recognize you. Anytime now. Go ahead. Welcome to the latest internet radio station. I can't do it like – it should have pants to it. Intern or Burn? With your host, Dan Hudson. Dan. Oh, am I doing this? You're terrible. What? You're not doing our introduction. I'm not the host guy. Okay. I sent you the graphics. Do you want to use those or how do you want to do that? Okay. No, here. I'll do the questions. I'll do the questions. Okay. So on the chat, again, so keep score. We're going to do – you get one point for a right answer, no points for a wrong answer.

Okay. Hold on. Are the answers in secret? Dan has the answers. I have the questions. Yeah, but if I play, like, are we going to answer them as we go through them or are we going to tally them? We'll go through all of them and then I'll give you the answers. Then you can tally them. I will give the answers because they'll be correct. When do I give my answer? You have to answer right away. Can I look at what I answered last time when I did this? Oh, I have those buried in an email on my computer. This better be a different set of questions. You didn't give her the questions ahead of time, did you? I had one prepared last week. With the similar questions? The same questions. Well, I didn't do any research. And did you tell her what answers were right? No. Okay, all right. We never spoke about it. Okay, good. All right, so here we go. Ready? I'm suspect of this game already.

In turn. I failed then. I'm pretty sure I'll fail now. I never looked at them or compared them. All right, let's do this thing. I'm ready. All right, here we go. In turn or burn. Question number one. The topic this week is women of the Bible. Women of the Bible. Here we go. Question number one. This woman hung a red rope from her window. A, Eve. B, Rahab. C, Tamar. D, Ruth. B, Rahab. Final answer. This woman hung a red rope from her window. In turn says, Rahab. What say you? I wrote rehab. That's a fail. You lose automatically. Okay, ready?

Question two. Okay, question number two. Women of the Bible. This woman conspired with her husband to lie to the Holy Spirit. A, Rahab. B, Mary. C, Jezebel. D, Sephira. Sephira. D. Sephira. Sephira. I'll go D. In turn says, D, Sephira. What say you? I don't think it's A, B or E. Is that rhetorical? Huh? What say? To the masses when you say, what say you? Does that mean? Yeah. I mean, what do you say? How do you answer? Okay, go ahead. That's catchy. I have.

Okay. Here we go. Number three. This woman laughed at God's promise concerning her child. A, Sarah. B, Jezebel. C, Athalia. D, Sephira. A, Sarah. The intern says, A, what say you? I don't know how long. This is catchy. I don't know how long that's going to play out. This is totally going to work. We need some music. Oh, man. We do need some music. Hold on a second. I know the answers to these so far. That scares me. Oh, it gets worse. You do or you don't? I do. So far, I'm afraid I have the right answers. Okay. Here we go. Would you say we have the same answers?

So far. All right. What would you say? What would you? All right. Number four. This woman was seen bathing. A, Rachel. B, Bathsheba. C, Esther. D, Naomi. That was Bathsheba. The intern says, B, Bathsheba, what say you on women of the Bible in Turner? Did you say it right? What are you asking, Daniel? No cheating, Hudson family. Your eyes give it away, Dan. I was talking to myself. Look directly. Yeah. You are paranoid. That's true, Dan. You're going to have to look somewhere else. Dan's a cheater. His face gives away everything. I'm a great poker player. Don't look at me either.

Here we go. Number five. This woman and her husband were tent makers. A, Jezebel. B, Mary Magdalene. C, Delilah. D, Priscilla. I always wondered which one was the dude and which one was the lady. Now I guess I know. B. Oh, B. Yeah, B. Intern says, B, Mary Magdalene. What say you? Number six. This woman was David's great-grandmother. Michael? Michelle? I call him Michael. I don't know if it's… Michael. Michael the woman. B, Abigail. C, Ruth. D, Leia. D? Question mark?

Intern says, D, very hesitantly. What say you? Number seven. This woman was deceived by a serpent. Oh. Was it getting late? A, Sarah. B, Mary. C, Eve. D, Miriam. Off to go with C, Eve. Intern says, C, Eve. What say you? I don't know about that. How many questions are there? 20. Good cats. 20 different inflections. Okay, we're going to pick this up. Number eight. This woman was raped by her half-brother. A, Tamar. B, Dinah. C, Rahab. D, Ruth. This woman was raped by her half-brother. I know who it's not, so by processing relation, I think I'm going to get that one.

I just, for some reason, want to say D, but I pretty much know it's wrong. Maybe it's wrong. Is it B? Rahab is a dude. No, it's not. I said… Rahab is a dude's name. B, Dinah. Intern says, B, Dinah. What say you? Can I use a lifeline on this one? No. All right. It's intern or Bert. All right. All right. All right. Number nine. This woman died after being pushed out of a window. A, Delilah. B, Jezebel. C, The Witch of Endor. Or D, Dinah. Let's go with the witch. Intern says, C, The Witch of Endor. What say you? Number 10 on Intern or Bert, women of the Bible.

This woman won a beauty contest. A, Delilah. B, Rachel. C, The Queen of Sheba. D, Esther. D. D with gusto, says the intern. What say you? Number 11. This woman kept watch over her baby brother as he was rocked by the Nile. A, Miriam. B, Dinah. C, Melissa. D, E, U. Is that A? A or B? I'll go with A. I can't remember. An indecisive intern says, A, Miriam. What say you? Sounds familiar. Number 12. This woman was visited by a desperate and disguised king of Israel. A, Michael, the woman. B, Abigail. C, The Witch of Endor. And D, Bathsheba.

I don't know. B. What is there? There are only like four ladies in the Bible that seems to be the same people every time. The multiple choice. They really get around. They're all Old Testament, too. What was the answer? B. If you don't know, you're supposed to choose B. B? I thought it was C. Oh. Did that change? Wait. Oh. Number 12. Yeah, B or C. Pull yourselves together. Got it. This woman. Intern says, B, Abigail. What say you? 13. Oh, maybe it was C. This woman had bad eyesight. A, Leah.

B, Rachel. C, Sarah. D, Hagar. I don't think that was correct. I think it was more of a deformity. It impacted her eyesight. All right. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Would you go with D? I would not go with D. I would go with probably. No Googling. All right. Oh, D. All right. Intern says D. On 13? Yeah. Well, I don't think it was Leah or Rachel or Sarah. No berating her. I'm sorry. She gets the right answer. I'm sorry. Maybe it was. If I could make a burning noise with my mouth. All right.

Here we go. Hagar. Number 14. This woman drove a tent peg through her guest's head. A, Delilah. B, Athelia. C, Jezebel. D, Jael. I think it's Jael. Jael. Boys. Yeah. It's getting hot in here. Sounds all Hebrew-ish. It's getting kind of hot. Oh, I am burning. Intern. I mean, like. 14. Not hot. Tent peg through her guest's head. B. Intern says B. I feel like maybe it's D. What? Say you. It's getting tougher.

Wait. If I want to switch that to D. I don't know. It's not a possibility. It's Jesus or nothing. 15. Two of this woman's brothers killed all the men of Shechem. A, Dinah. B, Delilah. C, Esther. D, Rebecca. D. Answer is D, Rebecca from the intern. It's A. What? I don't know. I don't know if B or B. Say you. B? Hey. That's a brazen. Sorry. Stop that. I don't know these very well. Here we go. This woman had a fool for her first husband. A, Jezebel.

B, Cheryl Hudson. C, Abigail. D, Sapphira. Eve? B? Is that? Oh, sorry. B, Eve. Oh. Intern says B. What? Say you. I don't think you can miss it on that question. That should be a gimme for all of them, ladies. But you can probably find the foolish trait in all of those men. I think you almost have to take all the answers on that one. Here we go. 17. This woman had her boyfriend's head shaved. A, Delilah. B, Michael the Lady. C, Abigail. D, Sarah. A, Delilah. Intern says A, Delilah. What? Say you.

19. This woman was the mother of Benjamin. A, Rachel. B, Leah. C, Sarah. D, Rebecca. What about 18? She forgot 18. This woman's husband and both her sons died in Moab. A, Ruth. B, Naomi. C, Hagar. D, Jezebel. This woman's husband and both her sons died in Moab. Intern says? Um, I'm thinking. Okay, I got it. Okay. I'm guessing. I'm guessing on that one. Okay? Okay, can I read it again? I can read it. This woman's husband and both her sons died in Moab. A, Ruth. B, Naomi. C, Hagar.

D, Jezebel. Intern says it. B. Intern says B, Naomi. What? Say you. Did you notice how I couldn't focus there for about five minutes? It's really crazy. I couldn't. Okay. I didn't really think about it. Pray on it. She's texting. Keep an eye on her other hand. 19. This woman was the mother of Benjamin. A, Rachel. B, Leah. C, Sarah. D, Rebecca. Benjamin, brother of Joseph. Hey. No lies or other misledings. Is it Rachel or Leah? That's true. No, I know that. Stop that.

B. Intern says A. Shoot. B. Intern says B, Leah. What say you? You're participating in Women of the Bible on Intern or Burn. This is question 20. Oh, my gosh. This woman married a carpenter. A, Rachel. B, Elizabeth. C, Mary. Or D, Martha. C. Intern says C, Mary. What say you? I'm ready. Let's do this thing. I don't think you did that bad. All the ones where I made the sound, that's not good for you. There we go. All right. This has been Intern or Burn. Let's do the check. Dan. Let's go to Dan for the answers.

Go ahead, Dan. Did somebody say what I answered? I got them written down here. Oh, okay. Yeah. Good. I don't remember. I'd like to know, first of all, how many wrong before the intern burns? Well, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, so I'll give you one free one. Wow. I burned. That Leah's really going to put you in it. It said fall short, not fall long. Secondly, where do I get my money back for this Bible college education? You should have done this at home first. I don't have any Bible classes this semester. I sure made a lot of friends, Dad. We did play connects to the wee hours. Ramen noodles and operation. All right. Okay. Number one, I'm going to amend and say you can miss four. Okay. So read the question again, and then I'm going to spout up. We're going to go Danielle's answers, my answer, and then we're going to see what's what.

Okay. This woman hung a red rope from her window. Danielle said B, Rahab. I also said Rehab. That is correct. In Walls of Jericho, was it not? Yes. To signify don't come back and destroy me when you're coming back to take over. That's for the spies, I thought. Yeah. I'm the one who protected the spies. We made a deal. Don't kill me. Kill everybody else. Thank you, children's Bible. I hang a red cloth on my chocolate milk to make sure the woman doesn't throw it away prematurely. Nice. Under that same idea. That's one and the same. Excellent. This woman conspired with her husband to lie to the Holy Spirit. Intern said Sapphira. What were the options? Rahab, Mary, Jezebel, Sapphira. Okay. Yeah.

Sapphira. Oh, yeah. And that is correct. Yeah. That is correct. What contents was that? I guessed. That was… That's an axe. Yeah. That's where they were talking about selling the land. Oh, okay. Okay. They gave all the money. No, really? Yeah. They tried to pay… They went and sold the land. So they did the good thing. They sold their land for Jesus, for the pursuer to the gospel. And then they represent… It's just they gave them all the money when really they held something back. They gave a portion back. And then what happened to them? They died directly. Yeah. And instantly.

Burned. So who died first? The husband. The husband died. Because the husband tried to pull it off first. He came in and said, look, we sold it all. And then she came in trying to say the same thing. Yeah. And so he killed them both. Yeah, that guy asked him. I believe… I recall they asked her. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we did that. Oh, yeah. Well, your husband's dead bodies are where they're rotting… Okay, yeah. You've added to the Lord's Word, David. I may have added to it. Okay, moving on. All right. This woman laughed at God's promise concerning her child. Intern said, A, Sarah. I'm going to agree with Sarah. In concern to… Agree with me. Yeah.

And that is correct. Yeah. Which is funny because the child's name was… What was the child's name? Isaac. Laughter. Which means laughter. Oh, yeah. She was old. She's like, I can't have a baby. And she laughed at who? Who did she laugh at? Who delivered the news directly? There was three dudes in the tent, right? Yeah, the angel. Yeah. Or Jesus. Jesus. Depending on where we're at there. Dan's not with me. Okay, we'll talk about that later. This woman was seen bathing. Intern said, Bathsheba. I also did not know that one directly, but I went with Bathsheba due to the bath in her name. Oddly enough, that is correct. Yes, indeed. Thank you, providential God.

David's walking around. Hey, what's that? And then, yeah, he's the one he had her husband sent off to war. Yeah. And then she suddenly became pregnant mysteriously by the king. And then he sent the husband off again to… Frontline. Not a classic move on David's behalf. Yeah, that was bad. Big, big sin in his life. Number five. This woman and her husband were tent makers. Intern said, Mary Magdalene. Boo. I'm going to go with Priscilla from Priscilla and Aquila. Also tent makers along with Paul. Mr. Paul. I believe. Paul. That's what I was… That's what I was going to say. Except for Mary Magdalene was what came to mind. Because when I thought of Mary Magdalene, I thought of John the Baptist. Mary Magdalene's profession was certainly not tent maker. Okay. But John the Baptist, didn't he do tent making? I believe he was known for not living in tents.

Oh. He was an outdoors crazy man. Wait. I'm mixing this up. Ching. So, minus one for the intern. Not bad so far. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Okay. Chat. Hold on, chat. How you doing? You ever doing all right there? This could be you. You should know the Bible also. Pull yourselves together. Just like me. Okay. That's right. Okay. This woman was David's great-grandmother. In turn, said Leah. I'm going to disagree with that. But I didn't… I had Abigail.

I can't remember all those that long. The correct answer is Ruth. Wow. And is Leah Ruth's… Leah was the second wife of Jacob or Isaac. Isaac and Jacob. Jacob. Of Jacob. Of yeah. He wanted Rachel. Yeah. And Leah's who got first. I've never kept this right. She will come back up. Yes. Okay. At a later time. After the wedding night, he saw her the next day. Wait a minute. You're not Rachel. What a fool. How awkward is that? What a fool. That was one of the stories in the Bible I could never quite wrap my head around. That Jacob toiled for seven years to get Rachel under his… Uncle. Yeah, it's been his uncle.

Laban. Laban. Laban. And it turns out that after seven years, and here comes the way, it's a wedding night, and Laban sneaks in Leah, and he knows none the wiser. He's been drinking. That heavily? They don't have a candle or something? Well, she was veiled at the wedding, right? She would have been veiled at the wedding, so he wouldn't have been able to see it. He's probably… I don't know if they had a wedding. I don't think they… I think we kind of make that stuff up. I don't… No, I believe there were ceremonies. There was a ceremonial deal. At times in history, not necessarily here. I mean, there might have been like a feast afterwards. Okay, move on to the next question, and I'll take care of the background Bible stuff here. You got married at home in your mother's bed, and then you did stuff later. Well, that's how… That's how… Who am I thinking of? One guy. Jacob got married. That's all they all did in the old…

Well, he's the example that the Bible gives with that. He went to his mother's tent and married her. They didn't describe that about the other marriages in Genesis, for example. What about the big feast? Yeah, so Laban brought together all the people of the place and gave a feast. But when evening came, he took his daughter Leah and gave her to Jacob. Yeah, yeah. Okay, she might not have known. So there was a big feast. So I think it got wasted at the feast. We'll assume drinking. These people got to stop drinking. But it still wasn't necessarily like, do you, vows, and rings? There's no one to officiate. The marriage is God. It's not like… Yeah, yeah. You're a governmental entity, Daniel. Because it was also customary… You think it's Leah? It's also customary to… Am I saying it wrong? The next day, the husband would come out with the bedsheets and wave them in the air when people would be able to prove she was a virgin. Oh, I said Leah. Right. Okay, moving on.

And if not, she'd be stoned. All right, Daniel. Pretty awkward. Okay, so… So how am I doing? I missed two. You're down. What time are we at? Two out of… We're four out of six. You missed Priscilla and Abigail. Or Priscilla and Ruth. Ruth. Right. We also would have accepted Ruth. Moving on. Number seven. Woman was deceived by a serpent. Enter and said Eve. I would agree with Eve. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was definitely… I think we got that one. Or you could say all of us. I would agree with you by that serpent. This woman raped by her half-brother.

This is what? Number eight. Intern said… Dinah? Dinah was indeed raped, but I believe not by her half-brother. I'm going with Tamar. No, I'm going to also disagree. It was Tamar. If it makes you feel better, I had guessed Dinah, too. This is… I'd gotten this wrong. It was Tamar and Judah. Remember, he was the guy he was supposed to give… Wait, that's not a half-brother. No, it was his father-in-law. Judah was the father-in-law. Yeah, not a half-brother. Remember, God killed the one brother, Ur. Ur. Then he was supposed to turn the other one over. And the other one… An O's or whatever the doofus' name was. 2 Samuel 13, 10, and 14. I was supposed to learn all this in Bible. 2 Samuel. Go ahead and move on. I'll check out the Samuel.

But are you referring to Dinah from one of Jacob's daughters? From the Flintstones. Go ahead. Moving on. Would you have Samuel, too? Because that story's in Genesis. The one this one is referring to… It could be a different Dinah. Excuse me. 2 Samuel 13, 10. Okay. And verse 14. Go ahead. So, we're at number nine. This woman died after being pushed out of a window. In turn said… The Witch of Endor. Is that a joke? Or is there a real… It was a real… She'll come up later. Okay, I'm not sure of her. It's not Delilah. That was not correct. It's not Delilah. It could Jezebel. It's the story of Jezebel.

It is? She's a wicked woman. She gets… I don't know about… And the dogs come and eat her. It's a pretty… It is a different Tamar. The second Samuel Tamar is different than the Genesis Tamar. Two Tamars. Both come to trouble. Yeah, yeah. That's like there's Josephs all over the place. Yeah, there's only one good Joseph. So, what was the answer for that one? What number are we on? Jezebel. Wait, yeah, I'm sorry. Jezebel. She died out of a window. Okay. Okay. Number 10. This woman won a beauty contest. And the intern said… Esther? I'm also going to say Esther. That's correct.

She said it was some pretty good fortitude, and I don't need the answer, so I'm with Esther That's a pretty cool story. That's an awesome story. You didn't know that answer? Huh. You should read it. I'm just into the… It's a short read. I'm just into the Old Testament. I'm very definitive on Genesis. It's the only… After that, I kind of fall off a little bit. It's the only book in the Bible that doesn't mention Jesus, right? Directly, or whatever. It doesn't… Like the angel of the Lord is the Jesus. Where is it? Esther? It's Esther. You're right. Huh. I know it is. Okay. Moving on. Here we go. It's got me confused here. Okay.

This woman kept watch over her baby brother as he was rocked by the Nile. In turn… I don't know these names. …said Miriam. I think that's a good answer. It is correct. …would be Moses' sister, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Miriam is correct. I was going to say, no, his mom's daughter. Would that be his sister? No. Okay. Number 12. A woman was visited by a desperate, disguised king of Israel. In turn said, Abigail. I thought we'd both go down with a ship on this one because I didn't know, so I also said Abigail. This is the Witch of Endor. Ah! Who is this devil woman? I'm talking to a dead person and he got in big trouble. I'm going to have to look into this Witch of Endor business. Where is that at? 1 Samuel 28.

I picked a lot out of the Samuels. I should have read 1 Samuel before I came here. Apparently. We're going to do secular Solomon. That's what will really get you. This woman had bad eyesight. In turn said, Hagar. I'm going to go with Leah on that one. Yeah. It was Leah. Yeah. Definitely Leah. All right. Good job, Colin. This woman drove a tent peg through her guest's head. I love this story, by the way. He gives him warm milk and he falls asleep and he says, because everybody's out chasing him. Anyway. I remember that. In turn says, Athaliah. I assume it is not Athaliah because of your disdain for the answer. I had answered it, Athaliah. I also got this incorrect. I choose Judith. It's Jael. Jael?

I knew it because that was a Bible book thing. Is that in 1st or 2nd Samuel? Or Kings or Joshua and Judges? One of those. This is what? Somewhere in the Bible. Is it in the Bible somewhere? He did all those books. Judges 421. Oh, man. I'm pretty sure I debated on that one. Where we at on the intern? What are we at? Four? Four gone already? One, two, three, four, five, six. That one's a half. That should count as a half. Oh, not a half. Things aren't looking good. Five and a half. Let's finish this up strong here. Seven out of 14. You're 50%. Going strong. You're not part of the elect. Hey.

Ooh. Number 15. 15. This woman's brothers killed all the men of Shechem. And intern said Rebecca. That is incorrect. This one is Old Testament Dinah. Yes. Who was defiled by a king's son, I believe. A Shechemite. A Shechemite prince. And then he says, well, I love her. Let me marry her. And so this story is the best. This is one of my favorite stories of all. So here's what the boys do. The boys say, look what we love. They don't like this. They're very upset. Yeah. But they say, well, look, we can't really give her in marriage because you guys aren't circumcised. And so they said, look, I tell you what, you guys, you Shechemites, everybody gets circumcised and then we will give our women to you and we will take your women. And we will just join as one big happy tribe. So here are these doofus Shechemites circumcised themselves. And then while they're all hurting and in pain, then these two, Dinah's two brothers show up and murder the entire tribe.

It's gone. Plunder their stuff, take everything they own. Two days into a grown man. How smart is that? Say, listen, we need you to circumcise yourself. And so the three days with no anesthetics, no antibiotics, no anything, these guys are writing in pain at their house. They just keep going door to door and start killing people. What a good way to set it up. Of course, I mean, the Lord did not bless this behavior. But nonetheless, it was good thinking. Okay, this woman had a fool for her first husband. Interned. I just said Eve. I also said Eve. Okay, is that a… Are you laughing? Because I'm wrong? What's going on? Okay, remember the time David is out and about and this gal's husband, he's like, hey, we need something to eat. They're doing this customary. They're watching this guy's sheep so that intruders can't come. This is when he's on the run type of thing. And customary, when you protect someone's sheep, they'll feed you. They'll thank you. And he goes up there, man, we're hungry.

And this guy just rails David and this man, get out of here. You're not my king. Blah, blah, blah. So he became… She became David's wife because the husband didn't survive this Abigail. Oh, handy. I think we're going to take Eve as a correct answer. Adam ruined it. He's a fool. Yeah, but… I mean… Adam didn't lead her well. Which makes him a fool. Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah, but still, she ate the fruit. We will accept… I've got to get on the other side of the argument. He was standing there when she ate it. He couldn't stop her. He said he handed it to her. Please don't. The story does not say, hey, Adam, come over. Look what I've done. She said he handed the fruit to Adam who was standing there watching it all go down. Eve is the correct answer. He had a choice in this.

Yeah, see, you could call everybody a fool, like you said. I mean, but specifically in scripture… Scripturally, Adam is a fool. The question would denote that there was a second husband, in which case Eve did not have two husbands. Yeah, but it didn't say that. It said the first one, that was her first husband. That could have been a throw-off part of the question. I don't have to say first wife. I have only one. Then she's your first. We're going to accept Eve. First and last. First Samuel 25, 25. Also, Genesis 2 and chapter 3. When I read 17, this woman had her boyfriend's head shaved. Intern says Delilah. Delilah. I don't think she had a read it. I'm going to go with Delilah on that one. It's Delilah. You're right. In attempt to keep crazy Samuel. Were they officially dating? Yes. As far as Samuel was concerned. I mean, seriously, were they?

Samson? Samson. Samson. I said Samuel. Samson. Same thing. That's one of those S guys. 18, this woman's husband and both her sons died in Moab. Intern says Naomi. I did not say Naomi. Who do you say? I said Rachel. It was Naomi. I had said Ruth. Yeah. What if I missed? Was it two or three in this whole thing? What if I would have said Leah? That would have been right. Wrong. Because Jacob died in Moab. And his two sons were both killed in Moab because of their poor behavior. Was Leah an option? No. No. Dang it. Never mind then.

So 19, this woman was the mother of Benjamin. And Jacob didn't die. In Moab. Intern said Leah. It would be Leah's rival wife. Rachel. Rachel. Hey. Hey. Hey. The chat is cute. Apparently she was fishing answers from the chat. I was glancing down and they were saying stuff. How can I help that? The fruit was there. How could I even? I mean, it was just there to take. I blame this on Eve. Lord, how could my husband be held responsible? My husband didn't stop me. Okay. This woman married a carpenter. Intern said Mary. I'm going to agree with Mary. That was kind of a gimme. Why? Okay.

You make me nervous and you laugh. Intern said Mary. I don't know if that's good or bad. So, how do we do here? Intern missed half. Oh, no. 50-50, intern. Well. Looks like we have a new opening for an intern. Burned intern. Barbecue intern. Burned. Joe Conn qualifies. He's in with 16. Nice. Wow. You better smell nice, Joe Conn. He's Bible Wolf. Let's see. I missed. I was. One. All right. All right. You said you took this and got 50%. Two. How'd you do, Daniel, right off the bat?

I missed four. This time. No, no. This is my answer. You said you got 50% the first time. I think that was all right. Yeah. Probably better do 10. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, you, if you're still hanging about, have enjoyed Intern or Burn, Women of the Bible Edition. And it's hot in here. That's kind of tough, wasn't it? The intern got smoked. The intern straight up smoked on this one. What say you? Those are my original answers. You highlighted and then I circled the actual. Ah, it's hidden. I believe you. You're not going to keep that as a. Oh, I want to keep this. You are listening to. I have a Life in the Past folder. Life in the Past. Or a pathway.

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Mm-hmm. He's probably used to that. Yeah, probably. He's probably not going to think that's funny. I wouldn't. I'm not going to say anything. I just have to do a double take. Who? Oh. Groovy. Yeah. He's going to be in here. Rocking and rolling. Oh, yeah, baby. All right. Groovy. All right. So, all right. So, I'll pay you five bucks if you never do your Austin Powers impersonation again. It makes me sick in my stomach. When do you pay, though? As soon as you stop. And as soon as it's been a year's worth of time, I'll give you your five bucks. The other option is, I'll kill you. It doesn't end well. I've read the Old Testament. The Lord does forgive.

Take that. So, the question is, it's graduation season. Okay. Kids are heading out. They're heading out into the world. People gather. They give them money. They're entering a different phase, a different season. God has seasons, Dan. He does have seasons. It's a different season of life. And so, the question is, for you, when you left high school, regardless of where you're at, what piece of advice should someone have given you to have positively impacted your life, knowing what you know about where you've come from, spiritually, life-wise, we think. Chad, I'm open to answers for you, too. What piece of advice should someone have given you when you had left high school, when you had graduated, heading out into the world? Don't spend money, ever. Ever. There's about 10 guys down by the bridge that feel the exact same way. This is working great. You know what? That kid's got a square head on her shoulders. I don't have any teeth to take care of. I don't have a lawn to mow. This is great. Future meat, string, and stick.

So, I think I have both. The non-spiritual one would be, you have to do things on purpose. I wish someone would have told me. I think when I left high school, I had this grandiose thing, you know, like y'all do when you leave high school and you're heading off to college or whatever, you're graduating college, you're changing to your next phase of life. You're like, I have no idea what's in store for me. Like, it's a big potluck or whatever could come your way, you know? And then, you know, a certain amount of time passes and you're like, well, nothing really has happened, you know? You know, there's still great opportunity for me. I'm just not really sure what it is, you know? And, you know, I think it finally comes down to if you want things done, you have to do things on purpose. Like, everything you have to do on purpose. You have to do your marriage on purpose. You have to do your kids on purpose. You have to do your job on purpose. You have to do your personality and the person, you know, the responsibilities that you want, you know, which is basically what you're looking for. When you're looking for a dream, you know, most people aren't looking for a free, you know, free lotto ticket to life. You know, some people are, you know, but odds are it ain't gonna happen for you. So if you're looking at it with a decent amount of perspective, you're looking like, you know, I'd really like a good high paying job. Well, you have to do that on purpose. You have to do everything on purpose.

And I don't know that that message would have sunk into me at 18, you know, but I don't know, somewhere between 18 and now, you know, I don't know, it'd be nice to get a frame of mind where, listen, you have to do things on purpose. Things aren't just gonna happen for you. And actually when they do, because every once in a while, you know, a good blessing will come your way and, you know, you can rightfully attribute it to God and you can say, that is a blessing. I recognize it's a blessing because it's not something that I did on purpose. That's the difference between, you know, when you sit around and just wait for everything, blessings can come and go. You never know they happen because you don't do anything on purpose. You just sit around and wait for stuff to happen to you, you know, but you can, you can truly recognize the Lord's blessings for you when you know, well, I didn't do that on purpose. And that came from somewhere, you know, if it's good and if it's good and it's happening to me, it's coming from God. And so like, I think that'd be a huge thing is, is, is really, you just, you have to do things on purpose. That's how they happen. Like to have a plan and to go after it. Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, just, just by, I mean, just flying by your seat of the pants, it's fun, you know, for, for a while until you look back on the last 10 years and realize I did fly, I did successfully fly by the seat of my pants. That's what I did.

You know, like I have very little show for it. You know, I don't, you know, money, you know, relationships, otherwise, you know, I just, I don't have anything to show for it. I kind of bounced and did this and whatever. And, and, you know, so some people will say, well, look, I don't know what I want to do. I don't know who I want to be or whatever, you know, well, there's gotta be one thing that, you know, may not be your career move. If you're like, well, I don't know, really want to do for a job, but, uh, you know, I want to fill a void in my church or, you know, I want to, I want to help people in my community or I, you know, I really love to garden, you know, whatever, like pick the one thing that you do know and do that thing on purpose. And then sooner or later, you'll start doing other things on purpose. And then you will live a life that you will be doing things on purpose. And hopefully as you grow, you know, spiritually and in maturity, you're doing them on purpose for God. But I mean, doing things on purpose is that's the black and white of it. You have to do things if you want them done or if they need to get done, you have to do them on purpose and not wait. So I, I wish someone, I wish, I wish I understood that better, whether someone embarked that on me when I was younger or, you know, I just knew it, but I wish I'd have known that better than I do now. Cause I think I would have had a better grasp on things than I do now. I think that's something also that you don't understand until you learn it yourself though. I mean, like, how did you learn that? Like you had to live life and figure out, Oh, I need to do everything on purpose. God told me.

Right. Okay. Okay. I was down by the Brooklyn afternoon. So like, if somebody would have told me that when I was graduating high school, I would have said, thank you. Like, that's really good advice. Good to know. But I wouldn't have understood that. Like, I understand that a lot more now than four years ago. I bet it would have applied to you sooner. Probably. You know, like, like if it would have even been a thought, like if I would have had like somebody I really respect, like sit me down and stare me blank in the eyes and say, listen, you have to do things on purpose and then pause dramatically and then say, you have to do things on purpose. And I'd have been creeped out. I've been saying, all right, uncle Randy, uh, back up a little bit. Uh, I get what you're saying, you know, whatever, but I'd have been walking home from my pizza delivery job at 2 a.m. thinking for no reason, it just popped in my head. You have to do things on purpose. And I'm not on purpose 2 a.m. walking home from my pizza delivery job. You know, I'm doing it because it happened to me, you know, and so there's, I don't know, it just seems like there's a big difference there between living life on purpose and just letting things happen. And mostly because of the blessing thing. Like, you can't recognize a blessing if you just let everything befall you, you know?

Yeah. JC has a good question. Who did you respect when you graduated? A lot of times you hit that level and you're just kind of like, all you, like the people who were down the road far enough for you to know better, you kind of look at it, it's like, oh, you're just much old fashioned fuddy duddies. I mean, you know, you kind of have that, that mindset. But, but maybe, yeah, I suppose you sit down and it'll, it'll. Maybe creep them out. Maybe I was going to just grab them and stare at them. Shake them. Yeah. Yeah. Now, spiritually, I think I'd have been along the same lines, but I, I wish I would have understood, I wish I understood how big God is when I was younger, like on, on, on how real he is. Like, I don't know that I was ever imparted with, and I didn't try either. It's not like the people around me failed me. You know, I didn't give it two, two licks of a, of a shake anyway, you know? But, um, I, I, I wish I would have understood, you know, how real God is, you know? Like, it's a story, it's a story, it's a story until, until for me, one day it wasn't a story anymore, you know? And so, who knows, but, you know, if maybe that's God put that change in me, or I, I took the time to, to listen to what he was saying, but like spiritually, I wish that, it would have been imparted to me on that, that God is not a God who's kidding around. You know, he's, he, you know, he has obviously put, you know, certain amounts of humor in the world, but he's serious when it comes to his love, obviously for the sacrifices that he's

made through his son, you know? And so, there's, there's a lot of joking around, but he's, God is not something to be taken lightly, and he's something to be taken with you every day because he applies to every day. And like, spiritually, I wish I had, I wish I had, I had been working that, working at that a lot longer because I think I'd be able to lead my family, my kids, and the people around me better for having known that longer. Yeah. That's beautiful. Dan? I gotta have a moment. Okay. I got a little tear forming right now. All right, Daniel. No, I'm serious. I think, I think the being intentional thing is, is, is quite, is quite important. And it's not so much that, that you even have to, I didn't know that you have to have a plan because, I mean, sometimes you don't know enough to make a good plan, but really it's doing anything. It's doing something and doing it on purpose instead of waiting for things to happen to you. Because I think even, even if you say, look, I don't know what to do with myself, but whatever I'm going to do, I'm going to, I'm going to go after it and I'm going to do it intentionally. You know, if I, if I don't know what I'm going to major in a school, um, you know, I'm going to rock at the things that I'm doing until I know that I'm going to be there as opposed to, uh, it's, some of it's just an attitude thing like, oh, I'll see how things shake out as opposed to I'm actively pursuing the things that I want or the things that I, the

places that I need to go. And I'm, I'm open. Uh, because I, I think a lot of times people say, Hey, I'm waiting for something to come along or when they're, when they're not actually looking for anything, like, like they're seriously just waiting. They're sitting on their butt somewhere waiting for something to pop up. My ship's going to come in, you know, wizard wise. Oh, you know what? Uh, there's a commercial about Alpo. I'm going to be a veterinarian. I didn't even think of that until now. Good thing Alpo's on, you know, like, are you actively pursuing things? Are you actively trying things, um, so that you're getting to a point where you can start laying a plan and start going after it. And at the same time, you want to, you want to have a plan, but you've also got to be flexible. Yeah. You know, if it's a rigid plan, uh, and you're not flexible to, to, to a change or, or, or something, um, yeah, that'll drive. Well, I think that has to do with, with, with you looking at, at, at your dream or your dream or, or your goals in a, in a broad sweeping manner. Like, like you can say, you know, I want to be this, this is what I want to accomplish, but it's in your best interest not to have the road picked out because that may not be how it gets done. Like, because every, every step in a row, there's going to be a turn and a fork and you'll go, what, what really is the right decision for me here? You know, like I thought, I, I'm pretty sure I had this leveled out where I thought this was the way to go.

And then, you know, something will show up and you'll go, boy, it's just not smart. You know, it's just, I thought of this, this sounded like a great idea. And I've been on board with it for whatever, five, 10 years now. And then boy, it was a mistake. Like the road getting here was, was educational and great and all, but it's time for me to split and I'm still going to get to the goal, but I'm going to do it this way. Cause it's the way that I thought up earlier. It's not the way to do it. You know, I think, um, I think the important principle is, uh, pray and move, pray and move, pray and move. You know what I'm saying? Like if you say, if you pray and then go and then don't ever, and you're not checking back in to make sure that you didn't twist something or do something that God really wasn't directing you to do. Um, I mean, you're, you're never going to go that like, that's the benefit of the, of the constant conversation with saying, you know, okay, here we at, you know, re reaffirming that where you're stepping is where God wants you to go. Um, and I think sometimes we either check in once and then roll on, or we don't check in at all. Like we say, you know what, Lord, uh, I saw that Apple commercial. I'm going to be a veterinarian. Uh, please bless me as a veterinarian. Right. Yeah. As opposed to, Hey man, should I be a veterinarian? Right. Are you on board with this thing?

I don't know that God's actually, you know, you whispered in your ear, you're like, be a veterinarian. Thus saith the Lord. Right. But, but, but I don't know that, that if you pose a question to, I, I, you know, God's not a hands off God. If you say, Lord, I'm, I'm really considering being a veterinarian, you know, do you think, is this the right move for me? You know, am I, am I making good, solid, solid decisions here? You know, I don't think I, I, I don't see a God as, as a God that ignores that, you know, if you call up and say, Lord, what do you want me to be? I don't think he's going to come back with a, you know, golf cart attendant go, you know, I have an, I have an opening for a golf cart attendant on the South side, get moving, you know, but I, I can see him answering, you know, questions through prayer, like, I feel like it's really, like, I'm really moving this direction, you know, is this where you want me to go? Or can I, can I be of service to you here? Can I bless people here? Is this, you know, can I still get your work done here? Yeah. If this is not going to be an opportunity that you can use, you know, or that you, that you want to use, then move me. You know, that kind of open-ended question, I think you can ask God and expect a direct answer. Yeah. I, I think, I've always kind of, kind of thought that, that God puts desires in our heart and then we kind of move that direction naturally, you know, whether it be to a certain type of field of, of, that you're going to work in or something, you know, I mean, it

might be a vague thing. You might not know specifically, I mean, I'm going to, I'm going to be a missionary. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm going to go somewhere or I'm going to be, I just like to work with my hands, you know, and that could be a lot of things. It could be a painter, it could be a carpenter, it could be, you know, and you kind of start fine-tuning it as you go, but, but I think God gives you a certain imprint in you that you, you kind of like designed to do some things and you kind of, the pray and pray and move thing, you know, okay, I want to go in this direction and you just kind of keep going. Well, that's the, and that's, that's the benefit of knowing Christ is your Savior too, is if you believe that there's, there's a providential God that's watching out for you, if you pray and move, you should have left all your worries back at the pray. You know, if you pray and you're like, okay, this is good, then you really have nothing to worry about because God's going to take care of you wherever you go. Now that doesn't mean he's going to take care of you to the standard of living that you may have expected, but either way, if you know you're walking in, in, in God's word, then whatever, you know, whatever, you know, if he wants to take all your money or his money that he's letting you borrow, whatever, give it back to him, you know, as long as you know that you're walking it, that you, that you prayed on it and you're moving, then your worries should be completely out the window. You should have absolutely nothing to be concerned with, which is hard to do. Well, I mean, that stuff's hard to let go, you know? Yeah. What was your advice, Ben? Dan didn't really say anything. Well, I have some, but I'll. All right, well, go ahead. Go ahead, Dan.

Go ahead, Dan. I mean, because mine is, because I kind of thought about this for a little while, you know, and I'm like, well, I got pretty much all the advice, you know, all the stuff that you know you're supposed to get, and I didn't receive it very well or, or, or just didn't follow it. But, and mine would be probably a financial thing. I was at a pretty early age. My dad was really big into getting loans, and he, I mean, I was in junior high, and he was taking me to the credit union to co-sign with a camera loan. I got my first really big camera, you know, I was a camera buff. And I probably had two camera loans before I was even in high school, because I kept upgrading, you know, I don't know, a $300 camera back in the day. It was, it was pretty big. Yeah. I came back in the, you know, 20s or whenever that was. When they could catch the dinosaurs moving by. Yeah. No, you get your chisel, and you got to move fast, son. Shit, shit. You turn on the light, the picture goes in this here box. Little man draws it up, spits it out. But, you know, he kind of ingrained that into us, into our family, as boys, the three boys, of, hey, if you need something, you just borrow it, you know, which is kind of weird, because he didn't really live that way, which it was like, you know, 15 years later, when I'm going, as an adult, going, well, wait a minute, I'm kind of in a sticky situation, and he's got, because he was making more money in retirement than he ever did as a working man, because he invested well and saved well, and, you know, I remember,

you know, we got, we were married, you know, fairly young, and moved into a house, it was a parsonage, so a church provided house, and we moved from our dorm rooms there, and so we had this three-bedroom ranch house with two dorm rooms worth of, full of junk, you know, and we're like, we're going to set up a house, so we bought a bunch of plants, you know, to make fill up space, but then all of a sudden, you know, you're kind of playing house, and you're living, and we're thinking, well, we need a kitchen table, you know, because this card table's getting kind of old, and we went down to Clark Thompson furniture on, what is it, East 29th in Hubble, I think it was, somewhere down there, and, you know, they have a, oh, 90 days, same as cash, we're like, well, that's kind of slick, you know, and we got ourselves a new table and chairs, and that was really neat, and we paid it off, no problem, we were, you know, making okay money, and then I got a recliner, and then we got this, and, you know, and after a few years, you do that, you look back, go, whoa, what happened? And all of a sudden, you know, money's tight, and, you know, and we got a car, and, you know, we got a TV, and all that stuff, and we never had, like, huge credit card issues, but there was always just, like, this loan out there for something. Right, you're always saying, well, man, as soon as that payment's done, that'll be nice when that's gone. Yeah, yeah, and then you free it up, then you got another, now I can do another payment, you know, and, you know, I mean, it took, it was a few years ago, we kind of figured out that's all a bad idea, but I wish I would have figured that out sooner, and instead of paying interest on things, you know, putting that money in savings, and no matter what, it's just always saving, just saving, even just a little bit, you just always get in that habit, and that is something we haven't been very, very good at, most because of the first 16 years in ministry, they're not known for paying big bucks. Right. You know, I mean, we do okay here, but the 16 years prior, we just struggled, you know, and I mean, there were times we were eating popcorn for

supper, because that's just all we had, it's all we had to afford, you know, and we had like meat twice a week, you know, because they're like, it's hamburger night, you know, so, you know, it's not like we were being wasteful, we've never had like, you know, fancy cars or houses, that kind of stuff, but we still could have saved if we would have disciplined ourselves, you know, we just made excuses, you know, and so I wish I would have taken that better, because I knew it, I knew it, I knew all this stuff. Yeah. I'd taken all this stuff, I knew the compound magic of compound interest and all that stuff, and, and that, you know, and that might be one of the things that, that, that goes right kind of back with that, what Danielle said is, you almost have to be burned by that stuff to get it, you know, like, and after it happens, boy, you're just like, you will, it just, if after a while, it feels like something owns you, you know, and, and, and, you know, you kind of get a game plan, and you look at it, and you go, you will never own me again. I will, I will save this money, you know, and I will buy things with cash outright, I will go without shoes until we can pay cash for them, you know, like, and I think you just have to grab that mindset, because, you know, it's, it's one of those, in those world, but not of it, you know, like, the world just makes it so, so awesome, you just buy stuff whenever you want, you know, and, and, and it was, it was really cool, because we did the same thing, you know, bought some stuff or whatever, and then after a while, it's like, holy, holy cats, what do we do with all this money, you know? Oh, and, and that's even knowing, like, coming from the scriptural side, I knew the scriptural side of you, the borrower is a slave to the lender, and as much as I hated it, you know, I still would borrow, right, you know, and I, and I, then it made it worse, because I knew I was a slave, you know, and it was just like, man, I'd like to, you know, do whatever, but I can't, because I have a car payment, right, and if I don't get the car payment, they're taking my car back, because I'm their slave, you know, I have no choice, and I hate, hate having my hands tied that way.

So, what do they do to me if I don't pay my college loans back? They'll take that education back. Yeah, right. Just show them those test scores, and you'll say, see? And say, look, we're going to have, you can't take this back. We're going to need 200%, because you only scored 50% on the quiz, so we're going to have to take your knowledge now, plus any knowledge in the future. Did you have a spiritual one, Dan? Did I write something down on that? The one, I can't say I didn't take it, because I've always appreciated this, the whole, the whole, it's always stuck with me, the whole life is a vapor thing, you know, no matter what season of life I'm in, I've, I've always taken that one to heart, you know, and now that I'm halfway through. Getting closer to death? I mean, I'm closer to death, I am birthed, I mean, you know, we have a grown daughter, one is almost there, and it's like, seriously? I mean, it was just yesterday when I bought that stupid recliner. Right. Steel blue recliner, I was in love, and she was like, really? It looks so 80s, it is the 80s. Magnum P.I., come on, Magnum. But man, life flies, and so, even like when the kids were in those stages, when they were just like, you know, the terrible twos, or whatever, or just being whatever, you just enjoy every minute of it, even though they're not always, every moment's pleasure, it's like, man, treasure it, because one of these days, they're going to grow up and move to Kentucky or something, you just don't know that. You know, I heard someone talking earlier this week, and they said something that was

really cool, and they said, you know, God has provided you the most legitimate distraction with kids. You know, like you walk home, you get home, and you've had a rough day or a great day, it doesn't matter, you know, and you walk down, and you're like, man, this has just been the crappiest day, and then your kid shows up with no pants on, picking their nose, you know, or, you know, trying to get you to eat half a cookie they found underneath the table, and you go, okay, okay, I'm in, whatever, you know, this is, thank you, you know, I had a lot, you know what, and that exact same thing happened to me when we were doing the atheist convention, remember, I was all freaked out about it, I'm like, this is making me sick, like, I just don't want to think about this anymore, and just before the show, I had just a distraction-filled evening with my wife and kids, and it was the biggest blessing that I've ever had, like, we had fun, we did stupid, stupid, stupid things, you know, we talked about, me and Grace argued on why we can't build a tabernacle in the backyard, that God will not necessarily come to that tabernacle, that it was kind of a one-time deal, and we talked about why it wasn't going to happen, and, you know, it was awesome, and I've tried to look at my kids like that from here on out, that they are an absolute blessing, and even their distractions are a blessing, even when they throw a fit or do something ridiculous, like, it's almost a distraction before, well, I had some big stuff I was thinking about, but at least I can deal with this for a minute. You know what, the only two-year-old, two-years-old ones, they're only five-years-old ones, they're only 12 ones, you know, only 21 ones, I mean, and, you know, as long as you're around to enjoy it, man, enjoy it, and remember your role, step back, you're a steward of God's life, He's given you, it's not your child, it's God's, and so you just try to guide and nudge and stay out of the way as much as possible, but be engaged, and you can kind of take that with everybody, you know, it took me, you know, 25 years to figure that out, so, well, you know, maybe that's the thing of experience, you know, you don't have to micromanage everybody's life, just kind of, hey, how about this, what do you think of this, you know?

I think that actually puts your role as a parent in very good perspective, and I actually tried to explain this to my oldest daughter, Grace, a couple weeks ago, I said, I said, did you know that you have two daddies? And I said, I'm the daddy on earth, I'm in charge of making sure that you follow your other daddy's rules while you're with me, and after you're with me, then you can go up, and then she proceeded to draw a Mr. Potato Head Jesus on a piece of paper. Is she in preschool, or like? She's heading towards preschool. She's going to go to preschool and say, I have two daddies. Yeah, yeah. She's also going to say. One that lives here, one that doesn't. Okay. I'm totally all right with that. Whatever, you know, go ahead and have them prod. We'll see if she lays down some Jesus on them. I'm pretty excited. I'm scared to death, because she talks just like me, like an odd speech pattern, weird words, and so she's going to go to preschool and call the teacher a stinky beast, and then we're going to have some real issues, and so it's, but it's a weird, me and my wife are talking about it like it's just a very, it's a very, it's just a change in seasons. It's a change in seasons to talk about, you know, that my little girl's going to go to school and, you know, handle her own conversations for eight hours a day, and, you know, and, you know, eat her own lunch and take care of this stuff on her own. That's hard to let go. It's going to be so weird.

I can't imagine I'm not going to take the day off work and follow the bus around. You know, I don't know. We'll see what I do. Who's the guy stalking us with a camera? Yeah, I'm super excited about it on her behalf, you know, but I'm also kind of bummed, you know, but I, you know, I don't know. It's just, it's very exciting, and it was very cool, because I finally, I did that same realization here the last couple weeks that I, you know, I'm her daddy, but I'm only in charge, I'm just in charge of making her, making sure she follows her daddy's rules. Yeah. And, like, that makes my job a lot easier as a parent. Like, I don't have to worry so much about hurting her feelings or, you know, of that my rules are too strict or whatever, it's like, they're not my rules, they're her daddy's rules, you know? And so, it just, it makes it a little more, a little easier for me to enforce it. I'm not so worried about being, you know, her friend is her parent, I'm her parent. I'm the guy in charge of watching over her before she goes to meet her real dad. Yeah. And so that, I don't know, it just seems that it made a lot of sense in my mind about, you know, how, you know, like to play, you like to play hard and fast with the rules in the Bible, you know? You like to, you know, well, this one's, you know, we can really go without that. You know, it's really not that big of a deal. That's for other people. Right. This one is not. And so, but it really makes it a lot easier to say, look, we're going to abide by that

because those are your daddy's rules and I'm in charge of doing that and that's part of how I'm judged is how I, you know, enforced your daddy's rules on you. Yeah. And so, you know, I can't go wrong. I can't go wrong enforcing God's rules. You can't. Yeah. Very true. Ben? I mean, there's stuff you probably don't even remember as a little tot, you know, like we used to have a little conversation, who's your favorite daddy and all that stuff. Do you remember that? Yeah. No. Oh, no, I do. I remember, actually, I do remember a little brainwashing things you would do. Well, I don't like to think of it that way. Yeah. You brainwashed me. And I'd be like, I remember when my dad would say this to me, we were in the garage cleaning or you were like, you were cleaning. I was watching. And I'd be like, let's play wrestle or whatever. And you would brainwash me. I was passing on to faith. Yeah. That.

Wrestle with God. Jacob did it. I'll touch your tendon. You'll never walk again. I think, actually, I think what I should have heard is do something. Is do something. Like, stop preparing for things or considering preparing for things and not doing that either. But do something. Like, it's kind of the same principle as be purposeful. But, like, I think, you know, don't spend all your time soaking stuff in. Don't spend too much time evaluating things or looking into things. Just do something. Why don't you fire it up, whatever it is, and then go from there. And then pray and check. You know, pray and move, pray and move. And I think those two things go hand in hand. And I think being purposeful and just, you know, doing something. Because I think one of the dangers that we have is getting caught in the ride. Is getting caught, you know, if you, there's a ride. It starts when you first go to school. And then you get done with high school. And then where is the ride supposed to go? Well, if you're doing the ride correctly, you're supposed to continue school somewhere else. So then where's everyone else going? You just kind of float along in that river. You start taking money out to go there without thinking about it. You start, you know, you buy books, you eat meals, whatever.

You don't say, like, it's all just a part of the ride. You've done these things. I know. I've done these exact things. And I regret a lot of them, not because they are inherently wrong, but because I didn't do them purposefully. And I wasn't doing something. Something was being done to me, and I was permitting it. I was permitting that social order to kind of carry me along. And it could have been, maybe I would have thought about it and come to that same spot anyway. Maybe I said, you know what, I think that's the place, that's what I'm going to do. And I don't regret the outcome of those things. But I do regret, because I don't think I did them purposefully. And I don't think I was actually actively engaging in a lot of it. I think I was just a part of it. And I think that was a mistake. It was a mistake, and I think I would have gotten more out of those things or, frankly, done something completely different. Had I been actively engaging, as opposed to life happening to me, I'm happening to life. Is people being people? People. We need to make a commercial. I think that's, someone said, look, you know, just do something. Do something. Don't let life carry you. Because, I mean, it's obviously, I don't have any regrets about where I ended up. You know, I like where I'm at. I've been blessed with a wonderful family. And maybe that doesn't happen if that didn't happen to me.

But, yeah, I'm not sure I've done something. I'm not sure I actively engaged in that as much as I could have and gotten to this place way sooner. You know, it's really crazy the number of life-altering things, decisions you make at a very young age. You know, you're 18 years old trying to figure out, well, I'm going to go here to college. Yeah. What do you want to do with the rest of your life? Tell me. You're 18 years old. Yeah. That's tough. You're dating people. Yeah. You're figuring out who you're going to be with the rest of your life. You know, and you're choosing who you're going to do it or not with and what career path you're going to take and all this stuff. And it's crazy the stuff at an early age. You know, the depth of, I mean, if I go here or there completely alters my life. Yeah. You know, where I work, where I live, what I do because it's going to put you with a different pool of people. And that's going to affect you and change you and all this stuff. But you've got to kind of roll with it because no matter how, whether you let life happen to you or you're taking life, it's still going to happen. Yeah. I don't know. Well, you know, and I think that's one of the things is maybe we have too many, maybe this is going to sound bad, but like maybe we spend too much time in consequence. You know, like if you have, I think perhaps there was a mentality that we don't have today, which is you make this decision. You don't spend all that much time, you know, you don't spend two years thinking about what you're going to do with yourself. You just decide and you do it and then you make the most of it as opposed to finding the perfect thing to make the most of. You know what I'm saying?

Like there's, this doesn't sound like good advice really, but there's obviously a benefit, I think, to like thinking through things and thinking about consequences. But like if you spend three years thinking, well, what will I do with myself? What will I do with myself? What will I do with myself? All the while, all the while paying college tuition while you're at it. Yeah. Story of my life. So far. Yeah. Continue. Stop that. Do something. I am doing something, but I don't know what I'm. That's what, do something with purpose, but be flexible because my plans have changed every semester, maybe. So I have like ideas of what I want to do and things I want to do in the future, but don't know for sure how I'm going to get there. What the, I don't know. I think, you know, I think one of those things that, that, that truly does come up too, especially in that situation is like, are the things I'm part of, you know, do they really apply to my goals? Like, cause I, like, I, all three of you people went to college and I went for like three months and dropped out cause I hated it and it had nothing to do with me. Like sometimes I wish I had gone, but most days I would almost tell my kids not to go. It just seems like a total waste of time to me. Like it's, it's almost like a, it's like a never ending system cog that you have to get in line in, you know, and then you do, you just shuffle on through it because that's the program they've set up for you.

They're like, well, we want you to take two years of foreign language that you're never going to use. We want you to take basic math, which you don't care about. Well, all these things that like don't apply to anything that I give two rips about. And so when I stopped going to college a year later, I thought, what a mistake. Oh, why was I so lazy? I just, I should have stayed and I should have done it. And now I would consider it the best decision of my life that I didn't go. Because I have no business there. Like I don't, I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up, but I know that that college degree wouldn't help me out one bit. Like you don't have that debt. I don't, you know, I mean, I've wasted money in other ways, but I mean, I've done it as fancy as other people, but I've certainly wasted it in other capacities. But like, you know, it just, they shuffle you through. I remember when I started, like myself, I worked at an office for a little while and I had no college degree, but I had five years of work experience. I worked, you know, whatever managing places and this and that low level stuff, you know. And everybody that I worked with had a college degree, made the exact same amount of money I did. And they're still working there, still working there. I've been, I've been out of that place for, for five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, almost 10 years now. I've been out of that place and they still work there with their college degree on the same entry level job that I got with no college degree. And I thought this is what happens. You shuffle everybody into a one stream and you say, you know, get the piece of paper.

It means everything. And then it doesn't mean anything, you know, and then you look at, you're like, well, I got the piece of paper, but I look the exact same as everyone else who has that piece of paper. I didn't gain a thing. And so, I mean, is what you're doing really applying to where you want to go to the goals that you want to accomplish? Does that piece of paper really matter? I mean, if it has to, like if you're a doctor, they're going to want some accreditation. You better have something, you know. But like, you know, if you're going to be a worship leader or something, you know, the college education helps, but not a requirement. You know what I'm saying? You can love God and sing. That's cool. You know, if you want to be, if you want to, you know, be a construction worker, college is not a necessity for you. If you want to work at a mid-level office job just enough to facilitate your life outside of work, you don't need a college degree for that. You can still make, you know, a medium income and live a great life outside of your 40 hours a week. You know, so I don't know. It seems like a tough decision and easy for me because I didn't like it. I didn't like school. I'm glad I didn't go. But I don't know. You almost have to make sure that your values and what you're shooting towards are part of

that system because if they're not, you're just giving money to a system that's not going to benefit you at all. Sucker. Actually, I very much regret having gone to college. Great. I do. I do. And I even did it what would have been the smart way. I spent two years at community college and I spent two years at a, whatever, a higher institution that cost quite a bit of money, of which I'm having to pay back to them. And I had the job that I currently have without having gone. I had it before I started going to school there. That education, it hasn't done much for me. Frankly, I'm not even sure I learned all that much. Like I felt like a lot of time I was just demonstrating things. Like it was, I'm paying someone to assess me as opposed to learning things. One of my biggest regrets actually is if I was going to spend the time in school that I didn't otherwise go to like a, to a seminary or to a Bible college. Because like that has long-term world applicability regardless of what I ended up doing. You know what I'm saying? Like that, an appropriate, a knowledgeable, a in-depth Christian worldview or understanding of being able to, frankly, it's not even necessarily that I, that, that someone would teach me a bunch of stuff there. It's just that, think of all that dedicated time. Think of all the time that like I have dedicated to when I'm studying, I'm doing my school work. It's actually spending time with God. Like that's, that's, that's a big distinction as opposed to doing, I'm going to spend time

working towards an English degree and then spending some time with God while I'm not trying to do, finish my homework from the English degree. I mean, I'm, don't take it wrong. I'm sure you learn lots of valuable stuff in the seminary, Bible college and stuff. It's just that like one of the bigger virtues is that you just have the time. You're just spending time with God as part of what you're trying to do. Um, and so I, I think of all the, the time that I spent in college, um, I know expressly that I wasn't spending time with God. I was doing that college stuff and frankly, to get two birds and that, that would have been pretty sweet. That seems like that would have been a way. But two things with that though. One thing, sometimes that just gets really, I don't know what the word is. You, you sometimes confuse like homework. Like I have to do this with time spent with God. Like I have to read this thing because I have to know this verse and I have to memorize it for this grade, but I can't remember it now because I didn't actually take it as like time with God. Like what am I, what can I learn? What can, how can I get closer? You know? Um, another thing, something really valuable at Bible college, I think is just the conversations you have and the friends you make, the networking and professors you meet. Like that's worth it. Like Calvinists. We need one of them in here. We need to talk to one of them.

What are you thinking? I mean, uh, you've been listening to live from the path, a wordy live from the path. Indeed. Yeah. Yeah. My name is Ben. Soul searching. Anything else from the chat? So someone had said, uh, never to bother with college cause you're going to be a, uh, stay at home mom. It's a good thought. Things, things that would have been helpful to know. I, and granted, I mean, and just like reference to the chat, uh, you know, there's some people that went to college, wouldn't, wouldn't trade it for a day cause it gives them the exact opportunity that they were looking for. So, and so I'm not saying that like, uh, you know, everyone should drop out of college and, but just make sure it aligns with what you're after, man. You know, make sure that that's what, that that's what you want to do. You didn't just do it cause your old man told you to do it or because your mom thought it would be a good idea. Your grandpa said he'd pony up 10 grand to send you, you know, whatever. I mean, just make, make sure that, that, that you and God are aligned on what you got going. And if God's out of the equation, you know, get him there first of all. And second of all, think through it. You know, if, if, if, if, if, if it doesn't apply to you, don't, don't just stay, don't just stay there or don't just go there, you know, because that's what everyone else

is doing. It just seems like a total mistake. I don't know. I really, I had dropped out of college. I'm the, I'm the bum. But whatever. On the other flip side of that, you could talk to, to my wife, Cheryl, who, who took a year of Bible college, which doesn't apply to, I mean, Bible college, our Bible college would be different than like the university you're at now as a Bible Christian university. Ours is like, it's like a trade school, you know, for training specific, you know, preachers and stuff. You couldn't take, get an education degree or something. So it's a slightly different approach. So it, that doesn't really help her in the business world or anything, you know, no one surprised her. Did you go to Bible college and now you want to be a, you know, a CEO at a major company? It might not help you. Yeah. Yeah. So she's in education now as an associate at a school where her as, I mean, see, you, you, you guys will excel because of who you are, because of your work ethic and how you think and, and, and you're engaged in what you're doing, whether you had a degree or not, you're still climbing. Cheryl's been that type of person too. Wherever she's gone to work, she always climbs and climbs and climbs pretty soon. She's, she was, when we got married, she was the supervisor in a department at an American Republic downtown.

She, she was, I mean, she was a year out of high school, you know, but she just, that's just her work ethic and she kept getting rewarded for it. Well, now she's in an education and education, who cares what your work ethic is? You got to have the piece of paper. Piece of paper means everything. Yeah. So because she doesn't have the piece of paper, she's working her, her tail off for making a, literally a fraction of what the teachers are making. And, and, and, and, you know, I keep telling her, just go get your degree. She just needs that piece of paper, you know, and then she could do what she, she really loves it. I mean, she absolutely loves it. She's going to be very fulfilling for her. So she really is, I don't know, she pines away at the fact she hasn't got her degree. You know, she's taking a class here and there trying to, trying to make up for it. And hopefully she'll get it one of these days. But, you know, so it just depends on where you're going. Well, but that's her looking at it accurately. Like, like, you know, she found something that she really enjoys and realizes that for her to be not, not only a monetary benefit, but to be benefit to, in her job, you know, she has to be part of that system. Yeah. It's just the education system demands education. education, even though some of those, some of them, I mean, some of them, like, there's a big difference in someone who's passionate about teaching, you know, and they, it shows in what they're doing. And some who are doing it for a job.

Right. You know, and it's kind of depressing for her. I think that sometimes she is passionate about what she does, although she's not teaching. They often have her teach things because she does better than some of the teachers, you know, because some of the teachers, they're just because, you know, that's the degree I got, this is what I'm doing, whatever, you know, they're just not engaged. They don't really care. Right. So, I don't know. Well, you know, and that's, that's true even, you know, even within the church, for example. Oh, absolutely. Like, I mean, there, there, there are some places where you cannot, you know, first Timothy be, be whatever, you know, with the fifth of qualifications, you know, if you don't have a piece of paper, they, they certainly will not put you in charge of anything because that's just the expectation. And I mean, you, you tend to find it denomination. Were you saying deacon? Were you going to say you can't be a deacon? No. What was your reference? Well, first. Or be a pastor. Yeah. Can't preach or something. Yeah. Because you haven't been ordained in that particular denomination. Yeah.

Which is usually tied to an education. Because the qualifications for, the biblical qualifications for a leader in a church, you know, don't, are laid out in 1 Timothy and really don't, you know. It's character and how you're functioning as a believer, a Christ follower. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because the thing, that piece of paper shows you completed the program. Uh, everybody that completes the program gets one. You could have been the worst guy. That's true. Someone is being serviced by the worst doctor. The bottom of his class. Yeah. That scares me. And someone's being serviced by, uh, the minister who was like, you know, scammed in on, under, uh, under the gun. Just barely made it. 70%. True. And, and some of the best ministers don't have a degree at all. Yeah. Yeah. It's really, it's, yeah, it's kind of wild. You listen to Live from the Path. Hey, we're going to take a quick break. Uh, probably about five minutes. I'm going to let you watch the, uh, uh, the first anniversary video.

And then, uh, and then we're going to come back and we'll finish out the night. You've been listening to Live from the Path. Live from the REMAX studios in downtown Des Moines. It's 6 a.m. And you are live from the Path. Live from the Path. That's a lot of pressure from the Path. It makes me probably the old guy in the room. I'm sorry. I got three chauvinists looking at me saying, why, what are you doing in the kitchen, Mary? What do you want? I don't go to a movie with Whoopi in it. I mean, I just, I'm a maggot. Bacon, I think. And cheese. You can buy this mouse for $19.95. And here's a little Jesus. Cerebral, because I like to put my favorite things on my boxers. So, hey, you guys. Where is American Samoa? I don't have much of a back hair problem, but, I mean, if I did, I don't, I mean, I wouldn't want to have to ask my lady to take care of me. And it says I'm overly acidic. You seem to both have possum-type characteristics that I'm all-knowing. Can we say butt? That's why I go Speedo. Very nice.

Very nice. The origami undies. You're way too intellectually invested in your underwear. I wore a hole in my pants. Right. I mean, my boxies were shown when I left at four in the morning. Your grandma's friend is really Ben Vereen. It's like holding a very warm, dead fish. Oh, this will save me time later. I won't have to re-watch the show. It's a long delay. You know cars can't function on wall peanut butter. Does that help? It's very adult, Daniel. We tried to pick him up, but he stopped to pee in the bushes, and we couldn't wait. You spent your holiday season hawking pagan Christmas wares? I'm not in a chicken. Just saying branch out a little bit, that's all I'm saying. What? It's got to be the most intense, uninteresting three minutes of radio I've ever heard. Men do not smoke Virginia slums. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There you go. Nice to stay. Do you guys jump from one head to another? You can't convince your mind to allow yourself to pee your own pants. Like it's out.

Chicken, chicken, chicken. Olson, Keith Olson, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken. I got this cat skeleton to me. I'm full. I'm hungry. I think I'll have that again. You're listening to Life from the Past. My observation in life is the whiniest people on earth tend to be Christians. Okay, first of all, you're not funny. So don't even worry about it. No, I thought it was great. I don't need your approval, Daniel. Slow Jack. Hey. Slow Jack. Look at that Slow Jack. Find me a Slow Jack. Yeah. Come on, man. In either case, I'm growing my mustache in here until the world understands me for who I am. Not just a cool guy in a sauna, but a well-educated man who gets all his information from Life from the Past. There is a half-naked bust mannequin woman in the church office. He's afraid someone's gonna steal it. Along with a plastic BB handgun. And I say, what goes on in here? That's like that time you claimed that you created the peanut butter that rolls up like a deodorant. That was the beauty of it.

I've said too much. I was like, oh. It's hot and burns me. Where's them shady internet characters? That's who I want. Giving my kid a pucker on the head. I've always been just freaky. Looks like the back alley, you know, used donkey dealer. Who left my underwear outside in the rain? What's next? A bag full of aphids that eat your face? Christians don't have gas. That's the deal. Do not ever buy deodorant at an airport. Next time I find a naked dude out rolling around in my rock garden, I'm gonna come look up for you and say, you caused this. What's that? I've got to do with it. Big sir, the best waterbeds. That's for sure. Big sir. Waterbeds. Funk kind of did that on that smelly politician question. Yeah, that's true. Funk, I've worn a dress. Oh, yeah. I fell asleep at the wheel. We had like a gang of feral cats.

What's a doobie? Hey, you know what? You're fat. Donkey rib cage, 30 bucks. Where'd you get that? There it's coming. Oh, okay. Anyway, you're listening to Silk Sheets and Rainbows. My name's Ben. I call it the street Jesus. Now, hold on. I'm not past it yet. Cassie, I'm sorry. You don't like any sandwiches? I've written Abby and said, Mike and Ben, they make fun of my shirt every single week. They say I look like a couch. What should I do? Hey, Ben, the van's gonna stink. I could have said it was Mick Jagger if I'd have known him face to face when he was my father. This has been Life in the Past. Daniel, what did I tell you about that? We'll see you. Go have a party. Next week. Have a wonderful week. It's jazzy. I'm trying to put a little culture in here.

It sounds like rain. This song is way awesome. It's funky. It's like. That's more like a chicken thing. Dan. I'm going to go. He's actually got it pretty good. You see that move that they do where like what crews. I speak Portuguese. He's hanging. King the guano. Disaster. Dan started it. Alright, ready? One. From his hiding place, Jack is. Dan's breathing heavy. Jack is hiding. That hen thing was classic. And Jack rushed out and grabbed the hen. You were listening to Live from the Path. Thanks for hanging out over the break. Yeah. My name is Ben. I'm glad to be here with you. In studio.

As always, Mike Boos and Dan Hudson. And special guest, the intern. A little charred over the intern of Byrne. But Daniel Hudson is here. Thanks for coming in. Anytime. You kind of set the tone of the show and you're like way toned down. Thanks for coming in. No, I'm not buying it now. Now it's phony. Sorry. Next week, make sure to catch the show next week. Kevin Lindgren will be in. Now wait a minute. Is that after the end of times? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Just checking. Now, according to the letter I got this past week, the earthquakes will start, is it New Zealand, did I say? I don't know. I think it's New Zealand. Oh. Saturday morning. That already happened. And it's going to start working its way to America.

Oh. On Saturday as the earth starts crumbling. So if you do wake up and. Wait, so will I know like right when I wake up that there's trouble or will it not tell me later in the day? I don't know. Is New Zealand ahead of us or behind us or what? They probably must be ahead of us. I think they're ahead of us. Yeah. So I don't know if it's like there's a strike midnight and it just starts rumbling or. They're next to Japan, right? Japan, you're ahead of us. Are you speaking to Japan? Japan, you're ahead of us. Is that what you said? Yeah. Japan, you're ahead of us. Oh, yeah. Very good. That's correct. Those boys know nothing. Aren't we going to feel bad if this turns out to be true and we've been sitting here laughing? We're screwed. We're double holes at it. Well, it doesn't matter either way.

Yeah. It does. We had fun. They had fun. They were all serious, but we have had fun. Yeah, but we're not part of it. I don't really care about the few years of fun if I'm roasting. Yeah. No. I mean like I'm talking about just about this topic. Oh, gotcha. I thought you were saying like, oh, so what if we don't make it? Well, you realize that the end times prophecy does not include us. Like we won't make it. Yeah. Not only is the end of the world coming up, but us because we're still in the local church, we're not. Oh, right. Yeah, we can't go. Yeah, it's not that Jesus came back and then he's like, well, whatever. Come on, fellas, you know, like we can't go now because we have not ditched our local church. We're trying to expand our local church. We're even more likely not to go. So what did he say about having your own relationship? You need to measure. It's not even that. No.

Yeah. So it doesn't say that in the Bible? Because if you had a good relationship with Jesus, you would have been out of the local church already. You would have known this end times thing is coming and not been blindsided in it or have any questions on it. You would know it to be true. So based on your results of the Bible quiz. Not only are you not part of the elect, the spirit is not in you. I'll give the quiz to that dude now. You might as well move to Las Vegas. I'm not planning a sermon for this week because I figured. I like how D-Eazy is all like, oh, that's a bummer. We will make it. Oh, well. Oh, that's a bummer. Actually, I was listening to, he was the Hero Campings on the drive-in here tonight. And I was listening to him and I kept thinking, you know, I just want to do the right thing. You tell me whatever. You tell me whatever I do. See, it has nothing to do with me. Whatever you say, I'll do it. I don't care what it is. Exactly. Right. What's the right way to respond? You know, like, do we battle them? Is it a battle? Do you want to say, I mean, like, I mean, they're all called to arms, Joshua style.

You know, like, let's do this thing. You know, we're going to battle by the, you know, and then, but, you know, we're on the other side kind of going, you know, you're not right, friend. You just, you're not saying what you're saying is not right. Frankly, it sounds that it's not coming from a good place. Like, these teachings are not, you know, biblical teachings. I'm just going to pray for you. You know, like, are we too lax on the deal? Are we the same? I mean, like, is this our character flaw, life in the path? Are we kind of Nancy's? I don't think there's any changing their mind, though. Like, where is it? Like, when does God, you know, there's biblical examples of God calling to arms and saying, let's go, you know, and we've ducked twice. You know, with the atheist convention, we took the pray, you know, we chose the pray stance, and then with the end of times guy, we kind of said, look, we're just going to let him talk, and we're going to show him God's love, and, you know, we'll stop him if he gets too heretical, but, you know, we just kind of let that come and go, too. So are we Nancy's here? Are we not taking a stand where we should and calling people to the carpet and saying, listen here, where are we on that, fellas? Dan, are you a set of spiritual knickers? That's what Mike's asking. You know, at some point, you know, also Paul says, like, just not to be engaged in spiritual controversies and genealogies and all this stuff that's going nowhere. If they were sitting down having a conversation of saying, hey, okay, let me see what you have to say

and see if that really fits with God. But they're looking at us as, we don't get it. You know, they're not going to take anything we have to say. Just like if a Mormon came to my house and tried to tell me all about Joseph Smith, how awesome he is, I'd sit there, you know, in the back of my mind, I'm like, well, you talk, whatever. But, you know, really, that's how they're looking at us. So it's not a fruitful conversation. Well, and, you know, actually, that's a good thought is what we're talking about. Paul is to, I mean, he's very much like stay out of, like, look, follow broadly here. You know, stay out of that stuff where people are always, like, nitpicking small things. I mean, let's talk about the broad here. God loves you. Do what he says. Trust that he sent Jesus to die. I mean, deal on a broad base here. Everyone else is trying to muddy the waters. The devil is in the details. The clarity, you know, God's truth is clear. But is there not a biblical example where God's people stand up against people that are not going to get it anyway and kept right on after it? To a certain extent, maybe. Which example? I don't know. I'm just saying. Well, we're going to need one. Bible college, Bible college, executive pastor. Give me a Bible example.

I'm trying to think of one. I can't think of one where it was, like, it's strictly a spiritual difference. I mean, he routed a bunch of tribes, but, I mean, he, it was because they were, you know, they were aggressive. Like, never, like, are we saying that predominantly the examples in the Bible are wars, physical wars, and not necessarily spiritual wars? Like, even when, let's say even when Moses, you know, grabbed the Israelites and headed out of Egypt, was that a spiritual war or a physical war? Yeah, they were, they were, God's people are tending always to fight for the freedom to love God openly. That's what, that's what they tend to be fighting for, right? They're like, they're fighting against… The Israelites were that way. The, when, every time that, post-Jesus, they got, they got in trouble, it was because they were preaching Jesus, and they got brought in and defended themselves. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, it's all about spreading the gospel. I mean, we don't want to confuse that. You'll, you'll go, you'll never stop spreading the gospel, and, and no matter what the cost, no matter what the, the, the backlash and, and the hesitancy of people to, to understand or listen, we're still going to keep doing the gospel. But if there's just another brother in Christ or someone who claims to be or thinks they're a brother in Christ, at some point, you just shake the dust off your feet and go on, you know? And that's what the gospel, too, I guess, that people just are so hesitant. There's the example of dust, shaking the dust off your feet and moving on. Right. So I, can't I say the same thing for a guy that I don't, that doesn't know Christ at all? It's like, look, I said, hey, I go to church, you want to go? No.

Well, okay. Shaking the dust, I'm out of here. I did everything I could. And that's scriptural. But you always, you know, maybe you don't go after him, like, with the same intensity. But, but maybe, you know, give him six months or something, come back again or something. Or that's just, I mean, that's just me talking. That's not necessarily a scripture verse or something. But when Jesus sent the 72 out into the communities, you know, he said, like, don't waste your time. You know, if they're not going to receive it, move on, go to the next, you know. So keep going until you find the receptive people. And I think, I think there, there, that was a specific act that Jesus was trying to do then, too. I mean, like, you can, to go out and spread the gospel, I think you can pull from that. But, well, in the gospel. I'm not sure you can apply that, shake the dust off, bro. Like, he was, he was purposefully sending people out. Well, that's the thing is, it was a direct, it was a direct witness. It was a direct witnessing. Like, when I say, hey, do you want to come to church? That's not really direct witnessing. That's just me saying, hey, you want to come listen to someone else talking about Christ? Maybe you'll get it there, you know, because I'm not going to pony it up, you know. But instead of saying, look, you know, I have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Would you like to listen to me? Would you like to listen to me talk about it for a minute and we'll see where you're at? You know, if they say, no, I'm not interested in that at all. I could see that as a shake of dust, you know.

Not to cut off the relationship or anything, but, you know, just say, look, it's a great time. Get back off and maybe find another time that's a little more open into the world. Your soft Nancy Boy sell of the gospel does not count as you doing the director front and then you could shake the dust like you wore a God t-shirt one day and you're like, well, no one talked to me about God. I guess there's a card about Jesus. I guess all these people are good to go. Here's a pamphlet. I don't know why. Why do the end of times people, why is it the same breed of people who love the pamphlets? Tracks. I don't get it at all. There's a guy, the guy that was on the radio on the way in goes, he calls in and says, I just want you to know that we're not really allowed to talk about religion in my work, but I'm doing it tomorrow and they're going to fire me, but I'm going to hand out these tracks. That's what's going to happen. Even at the Atheist Convention, you know, a church came in and laid out a bunch of tracks in the bathroom. Yeah. Oh, literature. Excellent. Yeah. Well, that's all I've been looking for. Oh, now I get it. I mean. Hello, faceless man that I don't care less about, you know, that I can't have a personal talk to Jesus about with you. Did I tell you guys, so as we were locking up the Atheist Prayer Room, I walked out and there was like a little piece of paper down at the door, at all the doors, and it said

the title was The Earth Speaks, and then there was like a bunch of text and stuff, so I picked it up because I was like, oh, what is this? Environmental drivel is on here. And it was a church that was handing out, and it was basically The Earth Speaks that God exists. It's, you know, like it was all this stuff about you can see God in his creation. That just irritates you. Yeah, it was irritating, and I saw the guy. I walked out, and of course, he doesn't know that I'm not an Atheist, and I saw him. He had made his way from 6'5", we were on the fourth floor, he was on the third floor walking around, dropping off these pieces of paper, and I'm staring at him. I'm like, you, what are you doing? And I think he thinks that I was an Atheist and that I caught on to him, so he ducked back into a room and then waited. I was waiting to get back into the room for a certain reason. And then 15 minutes later, he comes back out, and he starts, looks at me, and then starts, like goes back in, and then comes back out again, and then starts, you know, putting it back out. I'm really working for Jesus. He's literally, that's what he's doing. He's literally. Yeah. He's just a wimp. Yeah. I don't talk to you. It's just the easy, easy way out. Not like it did anything.

I mean. Yeah. Yeah, that's sad. No, no, no. Mike, what do you got for us? What are you doing? I'm trying to read the chat. They look like they have interesting stuff going on, and you're not watching it. They were talking. It was like seven minutes ago. Oh. Oh, sorry. Okay. So, dear, live from the path, would you please explain to me why today's brides still take formal bridal portraits? To me, the W-E in wedding signifies a bride and groom sharing equally in earning a living, raising children, and performing household functions. Shouldn't a wedding portrait be of the two people together? Help me. The W-E in wedding? We as in wedding. Like W-E-D-G-I-D-G. It's like there's no I in T. Well, now, if you've gone through any type of learning, like in kindergarten slash first grade, you learn that an E, when it's said E, is the long E. An E would be the short E. Yeah.

So, wedding is the short E. So, the W-E as in we does not apply. I bet that guy thought he was pretty sharp. I bet he thought he was pretty sharp with that. There's no, yeah, there's we in wedding. It should be the two. Okay, so. It's not we, it's wet. Okay, who wants first crack at this dude? Go ahead, somebody else first. I'm not even aware. Is this a real person that like we're friends with? Or is this like, where is this coming from? It doesn't matter? Would this change your advice if you personally knew that? No, okay, never mind. Just curious. I guess I'm not familiar with the custom that you take a bridal picture. Just a picture of the bride. But not the groom. Of how pretty they are. The groom doesn't usually care about all that stuff. Who gives two rips when they take a picture of the bride or not? I would more than welcome a picture of my lovely bride to keep in my home. Yeah. I would love to have a beautiful picture of my wife. Wait, so this guy's like, he's upset because he does not get the action. I have beautiful pictures of my wife.

I'm going to re-send that. There are beautiful pictures of my wife out there. If I only had a beautiful picture of my wife. I have some. If I only had a beautiful wife. I thought, okay, when you get pictures taken at weddings, it's like the whole party and like the families and just the bride and groom. There's 75 different poses taken. Yeah. If this king of the world isn't in every single one, apparently he weeps in the water closet. If he really wants to be in his own picture, why doesn't he just do that? Why doesn't he just marry himself and save the trouble? You know what I'm saying? Why does he even want a relationship? If he's got to be involved in everything, I'm not a big fan of this fella. Oh, man. So far with his, here's the statements that bother me. One, the we in wedding, jerk, signifies a bride and groom sharing equally in earning a living, jerk, raising children, jerk, and performing household functions, double jerk. Shouldn't a wedding portrait be of the two people together? Please help me. I'm a needy, whiny fella who doesn't want to do anything on my own. That's bad. I just think it's stupid. I'm embarrassed by it. It just makes me think.

Why was that even a question? Yeah. I'm just confused why this was. But this is the thing. These are the things that rock today's society. Yeah. I can't believe it. I'm just embarrassed that today on Facebook I get posted at the last wedding I did, moments after I said I introduced you Mr. and Mr. blah, blah, and the whole wedding party and they're facing, and there's a picture, it's on Facebook, it's a public, public access now of, there's me, I look very homosexual, I want to say. I just turned to your camera. You know, we were talking, we were talking about you and gays the other day. What were we talking about? I look, I look like I may not be a heterosexual. I'll put it that way. And they're laughing. I mean, that's the bit, and the, I mean, the groom, it's hilarious. They're just, everybody lost it. Me and Jared were out to eat, and there was a bunch of attributed homosexuals there. And we thought that. And my name came up. Yeah. Jared's going, we should see if Dan would like to come out here. I don't know why. There's something about you that's a bit effeminate. All right, so what did Abby say to this skirt?

It's a huge, huge answer, but basically it says, superstition may have something to do with it. It's supposed to be bad luck for the groom to see the bride's dress before the wedding, which is when the bridal portrait is usually taken. In years past, couples would pose together for their engagement, which was then published in the newspaper with their engagement announcements. Who cares? Who cares? I mean, what a wimp. Seriously, this woman should get rid of this man directly. Yeah, are you honoring your bride as, you know, is this a place of honor for your bride when you want to sneak your ugly mug into this picture? You think a picture's not a picture without your face in it? Here's what I think that is. This was not a groom. That was not a guy who wrote that. It was a feminist who wrote that, and she's just trying to stir things up. She made everything up. I don't think it was a dude. Here's some woman saying, hey, it's we, it's equal rights, blah, blah, blah. It was, it was posted by Shirley in Houston. Yeah, see? There you go. Okay, next one. Dear, live from the path. Lynn and I were friends since we were teenagers. We are now in our late 40s.

We had a successful business together, but I decided to leave it to pursue my dreams. She didn't understand, and our relationship was the casualty. We didn't speak for two years. I attempted to a reconciliation, but it failed. We're both bitter regarding the settlement of the business, and I am not sure it can ever be resolved. There's a high school reunion coming up, and I'm not sure how to handle it. Sitting down and talking with her isn't an option. She's not reasonable, and she's prone to sudden outbursts of anger. Can you help? Well, that took a turn at the end, didn't it? So, what are you doing in that situation? Can you, will you go? What are you going to be held hostage by someone that's unreasonable? Hi, my life has changed because someone else is acting irrationally? That seems bad. So, do you show up as a, here's the thing. It's hard to show up in that position, not put on airs. Like, I've got this covered. I'm not affected by your presence here. No, I wouldn't. Unless you're truly not affected by their presence. Yeah, why don't we just be, like, why do you not be dishonest about it? What do I mean? Actually, like, let's say, give me an example of what's going to happen that's going to cause you trouble at this reunion. Hey, everybody, Sarah.

Look, there's Sarah over there. Hey, Sarah, how you doing? I hate her. She's terrible. Why would I say that? And then, well, this is the other woman. You're Sarah. Okay. You're Sarah. And then I come over and tear your dress. And then. What, you're physically assaulting me? Yeah. Yeah, I'm prone to bits of anger. Did you hear the description of me? She didn't say she was Violet Bull. Yeah, sitting down. She's not reasonable, and she's prone to sudden outbursts of anger. How do you categorize anger? Now, hold on a second. Like, he was in, they were a close company for a long time. They ran a business together. So they've always. Okay, work up a story here so we can own this thing. What was the business? They ran an ice cream shop. Excellent.

Well, what's a better business? No, I like the ice cream shop. Yeah. Is it in a warmer climate? Or, so they work all year round? In Southern California. Okay. All right. Okay. So they're an ice cream shop. Me, I'll be the hero of the story. You can be the downer. Okay. I decided that, you know, I've always wanted to be a paralegal. And so the opportunity came up, and I went back to school to become a paralegal. And I had to get out of the business, because I couldn't afford my schooling and my paralegal work. So I said, look, you know, this has got to end. This has got to end. So I'm out. I'm out. You're very upset. You've destituted my children, you legal prude. I really just feel like this is where I need to go with my life. God's calling it. You know where you can go. So I'm prone to Fitz America, right?

So here's me two years later. Yellow hello. Hey, Tammy. This is Sarah. You filthy scam. Listen, I just want to. I knew this day would come. I just want. I know we kind of ended things badly in the business that didn't. I just, I want to make, I want to make things right with you. What, what can I do? I want to make the, I want to make, Tammy, I want to make things right. Let's try to pet. You want to meet me for lunch tomorrow? You can't make, you can't, you can't undo it. Once you dig a sewer and swim around in it, you're always going to stink. Listen, Tammy, that's not how I meant it to go down. I just had, are you, are you, are you cackling at me? Okay, this isn't going to work. I told you it wasn't going to work, Eric. Okay, goodbye. Okay, so now the big reunion is coming up. Big troubles. Big troubles. Big troubles coming. Okay. So you're going to cackle at me when I get there.

I don't want it to be a scene. I want all my other friends to think I'm respectable and not fighting with this lady. Well, aren't I going to be the one that looks ridiculous? Why? I'm being feral cat in the corner. I'd say so. But it's going to ruin the whole evening. So either you can go and have a ruined evening or go and have no evening. What's the option? I ruin it for everybody and go. Yeah. What if you didn't show up and then everyone would know none the wiser? She's going to be doing that anyway. People are going to be asking her. You were buddies in high school. They're going to go, hey, have you seen, what's her name? He's like, yeah, she's a dirty such and such. Okay, so your advice is to go and screw the consequences. It's going to be what it's going to be. Nothing you can do. Yeah, I can't live my life based upon how crazy other people are. Danielle, where are you at on this? Yep. Ben said. Thought provoking. Danielle. I have a thought.

I concur. Is there another question? The Hudsons are awesome on this. Dear Hudsons, what do you think? I don't know. What he said. Sure. In Bible school, you say either Jesus or faith, and that's the answer to everything. Depends on the question. Ask me a question. Okay. Do you like turkey or chicken? Well, my faith would lead me to like chicken. To Jesus chicken? I don't know. This seems really easy. I would have been much better at vacation Bible school if I had known these rules. I would always use the Jesus. It has to be more of a spiritual question, though. Yeah. Well, but like, it's either my faith or Jesus. I would always say Jesus says chicken, not my faith needs to be the chicken. Through faith. Through faith or whatever. Through my faith. Jesus has provided me a faith in chicken. Through your faith in Jesus.

You can't be wrong. So, anyway. Okay. What's the next? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Dan, did you have any advice for this person? I didn't follow the whole thing, to be honest. I didn't either. Which tends to be the correct. That one just didn't work for me. Okay, last one. I was just like, what? What was the advice? Yes, when you attend the reunion, avoid her as much as possible. But if you can't, keep any conversation civil, perfunctory, brief, and move away. Kind of like you winded. You stand by her, you win, and then you make your way out. Okay. Okay. Last one. Okay, listen. Dear Live from the Path, my wealthy brother-in-law and his entire family didn't give my daughter a graduation gift. Okay.

So I'd been, we'll call it the husband's brother. Yeah. Wait, why isn't he saying my sister? My wealthy brother-in-law and his entire family. Yeah, so why would you say brother-in-law? Because it's not her brother. It's her husband's brother. Right, so what? Oh, she's complaining. Are you done now? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. My wealthy brother-in-law and his entire family didn't give my daughter a graduation gift, and even though they attended my son's wedding, none of them gave him a wedding gift either. We have attended the graduations and weddings of all their children have been generous. We know the right thing is to say nothing, but it's hard to understand or remain quiet. What do you think? I don't understand. What? She gave, so her brother-in-law and their family came to her son's graduation. Okay. And the daughter's whatever. Her son's wedding and her daughter's graduation, they didn't give at all. Okay. No gifts. Yep. They attended, this family attended the graduation of those people, and they gave gifts generously.

What? And they are, they think the right thing to do is not to say anything, but it's hard to be quiet. What do you think? Yeah, don't say anything. Yeah. It's not required that they get gifts. I don't think they're giving gifts for the right reason. Yeah, I don't give a gift so that I get something back. I give a gift because, wow, I'm celebrating your wedding. Let me help you get started in life. Now, you say that, but with wealthy people, I like to give gifts in acceptance that they will return a gift to me. You have to define, what's wealth? Wealth is anybody who makes more money than I do. Especially if it's family, they're jealous. Let's say they're… I sense jealousy there. Let's say they're six figures each. They both, both of the parents make six figures. Yeah, but… They're in the 200… It's, yeah, but they make six figures. What do I make? They didn't steal it from me. I don't owe the, they don't owe me money. Yeah, but listen, the only reason to make friends with wealthy people is to obtain wealth off of them. Like a parasite. That's why people like…

Okay, Mr. Obama. That's why people like wealthy people. That is why people like wealthy people. Okay, but back to the brass tacks. Is that why nobody likes me? Dan, that's why you're not attending the rapture. Sorry. Wealth brings friends. It's in the Bible. Basically, what this boils down to is you're not giving gifts for the right reasons. If you want gifts, if your only reason to give gifts is to give gifts in return, invite them, have them share the experience, whatever. What do you care? How are you even keeping tabs? I can't remember things like that. People do these things. I can't remember if… I don't know. I don't even remember if I've given someone a gift. Why do they care that much? I don't understand why people care about that. Trust me, there's people that know that you haven't given a gift. Well, but here's the difference, though. If you're not to $300,000 a year, Hudson, they weren't looking forward to your gift to begin with. That's probably, yeah. Oh, there's that guy who gives us a package of peanuts from the airplane. Yeah, like, oh, it's just Dan. You know, he works on peanuts.

Give me one of those Bible tracks. But like, if you pull up in a limo, you're like, oh, man, I wonder what he gave. And then when you don't give anything, they remember that. Right. They remember the guy in the limo didn't give nothing. Still, you know what? That's wrong, but I think that's… Yeah. I mean, if I gave a gift to someone, and it was a generous gift, and they did not in return give to my child at graduation or a wedding or something, I just don't have time. What if they didn't attend? What if you invited them, and they didn't even show up? What if you went to theirs, and then they didn't show up? Well, yeah. I mean, it takes a certain amount of pride to be like, they didn't show up to my event? Yeah, exactly. Me? Don't you understand? Yeah. Would you… Do you feel at all obligated if someone would show up to… Like, let's say you have… Let's say you have… Your daughter is friends with another girl that's four or five years old. Yeah. They show up at her birthday party, and then you're in turn invited to theirs. Do you feel obligated to go to that one?

I do not, but I think that my wife would. I do not feel obligated to go. I don't know. I don't have to explain my life to other people. We didn't go. Yeah. Why weren't you there? We were doing something else. That's the implication of not being there. Doing something else more important. That's what I say. Yeah. What was it? What's none of your business? What if it wasn't more important? That's what I'm saying. Would you do that? Hey, where are you at? Well, we're doing something else. What was it? Because you're going to be the judge of what's more important in my life to me? If it was between you and I, yes, I would. If I had something going on, and you didn't show up, and I thought you should have been there, I would most certainly call and say, where were you at? Wait, this is between you two now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

He probably would do that. Yeah, I would agree. But to, I don't know, extended family, I don't know that I would care. It's none of your business. I would obviously have to think ahead of time that you were doofsing around. Obviously, if it was your daughter's birthday, too, then obviously I would say, obviously he's attending his own. But if I think you were standing around watching Three's Company, and it was important that you be there, and you didn't show, then I suppose we'd have to talk about it. Well, but why would it be important that I be there? Because it would mean a lot to somebody. No, it doesn't. See, that's not true. That's what people say, things like, oh, it would mean a lot to me if you were here. But really what you're saying is it would mean a lot. It makes me look important when a lot of people show up. No, that's not necessarily. That's broad sweet. Or I think you owe me because I came to your stupid event. Like, seriously, let's say you put on a birthday event, okay? And you say, Ben, I want you to come to my birthday. It would mean a lot for me if you were there. Does it really mean a lot for me to show up? That someone that was well-known, well-respected, well-loved, died, had a funeral, and barely anybody showed up, that that would not speak volumes on what those people mean to that community. Or that it wouldn't speak volumes that that place was packed for the family that remains.

That's assuming that a lot of times, funerals, people are showing up for the family. I think a lot of, like, some are showing up for the family. I think some are showing up for themselves. Well, they have to agree. Because they would feel bad for not having gone. It's completely different. Why? That's the death of a person. This is a birthday party. Some people, it's just as important. If I can't judge whether it's important enough for Ben to show up because three's company's on, then you can't judge whether a birthday is more important than a funeral. Are they, like, neighbors and best friends? Or do they live five hours away? The guys did. What does it matter? We're talking about the birthday. Yeah. Well, then he's alive. You can see him tomorrow. What does it matter? I think it matters. I think it takes a certain amount of humor to say, uh, you should be at my party. It's me. Why should you just, never mind. I would say, I tend to celebrate the people who are there rather than worry about who's not.

Yeah. And maybe that's because a part of my every week existence is I could sit there and think about the, the 14 families who didn't come to church or, or the, the hundred families that did. Yeah. You know, I mean. The people who want to come will come, will make time to come. Yeah. It means a lot to you, but you can't take it to heart if they don't come. Like, just don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. You say that, but you, can you do that though? Like, like, are you good at that? Like, if you invite yourself, I think if you invite a bunch of people to, uh, to a party and then whatever, my, my brother doesn't show up. I can't though. You know, I like, I can't say that I honestly would, would go through the night and think, what is that fool? I mean, you would maybe think about, I wouldn't dwell on it. I mean, why do you spend your time caring about it? I'd like to say that I wish I wouldn't, but I don't know that that's completely true about me. I don't know that I could say that. It's not going to change what happened though. Like, I think, and I think it's because I think it's built in, like people feel like they should be offended.

They should be offended that someone chose to do something else than come over to their place for whatever shinding that they put together that they felt was important. But, but it's your, uh, the mistake is one, putting too much emphasis on how cool your own event is, and two, taking it personal as if they're saying, as opposed to, I decided I wanted to do this thing. They're really saying, everything about our relationship is false. I don't really like you. Is it like, like, you're cast away. I would take it. Yeah. Jerk. You might be that guy from earlier that wants to stick his ugly mug in all the wedding photos. That's not me. You're callous. You have a heart of stone. I'm good people. All right. You have been listening to Live From The Path. Thanks for being with us today. We really appreciate it. Uh, next week, make sure you, uh, make sure you, uh, catch up with us. We will be, what does he do here? Oh. Uh, Kevin Lindgren will be in the studio. Uh, he'll perform some tunes. He'll be for the first hour.

So make sure you catch it for him. Uh, also the week after, uh, I believe it's the week after Ashton Powers will be in the studio. In fact, we'll probably see a bunch of bands here in the next couple of months as the Spirit Midwest Music Festival, uh, comes closer and closer. That is the first week of August. Make sure you check out spiritmidwest.com. See the bands. Check the dates. Also, uh, be in prayer for a syndrome of fire. They are handed out on tour on Friday. They're going to be gone for a couple months. Um, they're hitting the road and, and, uh, taking the music and, uh, Christ with them. So be in prayer for them and, uh, try to catch something, uh, for them. You can go to Facebook and check them out and, uh, try to hit a date if you can make it. And I think, uh, Jess Anderson's BEC recordings, uh, come out tomorrow. Oh, do they? Yeah. Uh, they just… It's a new song. It's really good. Good news. This is good news. We will see you next week. You've been listening to Live from the Path.