Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper, you are Live from the Path. And you're listening to Live from the Path. We're broadcasting from the Pathway Studios here in Johnston, Iowa. Maybe. Yeah, I think we are broadcasting. Holy cats. Flying monkeys everywhere. Well, hey, thanks for joining us here as music comes down slowly. My name is Ben Foost. I appreciate you hanging out with us here at Live from the Path. I'm the handsome guy in the corner. In case you don't recognize me, the smooth tenor in my voice comes to you weekly here at livefromthepath.org. And we are about honest faith, fierce grace, and donkeys on the Live from the Path radio program.

I feel bewildered. Why do you say that? Because I sit so close to you? Yeah. I don't feel right. We shared a womb. I feel like this should be fine. It's about as close as you can get. I've been running for years. So anyway, here's what we've got going on the show tonight. We have a wonderful guest, Kelly. Wonderful. You are wonderful.

Wow. I've made promises that you have to keep later on. He has never said that about anyone before. Well, that's true. I feel honored. I think you should be. Anyway, Kelly's here. She's going to talk to us about a mission trip that she's got coming up. Sounds like some really interesting stuff. And it's in the Haitian Dominican Republic. That's how I like to refer to it. Where the Creoles are. Hey, did you know?

So, Jacob, check that out. So, Creole is a mix of any language. It's not just a specific type. You can have Chinese English. What? Yeah, you could be a China English and call it Creole. Jacob, you can't talk. You don't have a microphone. That's true. All right. So, I could take any two languages together and push them together. And then it's Creole. Don't make me come after you.

Yes. Any two languages. Okay. That's good to know. Oh. I'll have to keep that in mind. So, I don't know. That's not as interesting as you were hoping. No, no. That's true. I thought it was classic and it didn't turn out to win. It's got no legs. No.

So, here's what else. We're going to talk to Kelly and see what's going on. Also, we are on week 21 from thegoddessmanager.com guy. We're looking at proof 21. What's the proof for this one is understand Jesus' core message. I think that I do. There's a lot of capital letters in here. I think it's going to be a classic argument. Okay. So, I'm pretty excited about it. What we're also going to do, we've got some dear life in the path. We do. And I also have a pompastic talk to 10,000 people moment that Ben has been pushing.

Yeah. True. But Mike has an audience of 10,000 people who don't want to move further in their week until they hear what Mike has to say. This is what he's going to be talking about. It's a game changer. Okay. It's a real life shaker-upper. I can't wait. I'm excited about it. Also, we're going to be doing some Secular vs. Solomon. No doubt. Yeah.

We got that fired up and ready to go. Okay. And your chat. And I think that'll cover it for the night. That's a big whiz-bang of a show. I know. There's a lot of stuff going on. So, thanks for hanging out with us here. And I tell you what, let's get to know our guests just a little bit. So, Kelly, here's the deal. Before they care about your story, people need to care about you. So, tell us a little bit about yourself. What makes you so wonderful?

Well, I just am, I guess. Since you have dubbed me wonderful, then I guess that's what makes me wonderful. I like that. I think that's true. Thanks. Please don't feed Ben, okay? Don't say nice things about him or get him ego-teasted up. It's hard to get down. You're not wonderful. Okay. Okay. So, I don't really know what you want to know about me. I've been going to Pathway for several months now.

Closer to a year, I think. Where are you from originally? That's a good question. I am originally from Vermont, actually. That's where I was born and raised. Were you forced out due to criminal activity? Well… Were you bootlegging whiskey? That's what he's asking. Do they speak Creole? What happens there? Well, since I just learned what Creole is, then that's probably not it. Right.

But, no, my dad is a minister and we've moved around many times. So, most recently, I was living in Wisconsin, actually, which is where my parents are currently living. No doubt. Do you have a… For having moved around a lot when you were little, do you have a favorite spot, a favorite state, favorite location? When I lived in Vermont, I swore when we left that I was going to move back there when I turned of age, I guess. But, I guess I'm not of age yet because I still haven't made it back. That bootlegging thing will fall off your record and you can go back whenever you want. Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for. You're saying Vermont?

What? I was trying to figure… I can't find this on… Are we broadcasting? Yeah. Okay. Because it's not coming through over here. Hello? Testing, testing? But, I'm sure it's recording, so we'll be able to use. Okay. Sorry. We've been doing this three years, Dan.

We've explicitly talked about not talking about technical difficulties over the microphone. Three years in. You were trying to engage me in the conversation. I wasn't listening. Vermont. Dan, that's where I'm from. Vermont. And, I'm trying to figure out why would anyone want to go to Vermont? Okay. Well, there's a lot of reasons that you could go to Vermont. This time of year, it's very gorgeous. They have teddy bears there, right? I'm sure that they do.

They have… The famous Vermont teddy bear? Yeah. That sounds like I've never heard of that before. Oh, it's on the radio. They talk about it on the radio. All right. All right. We're not realistic radio. We don't talk about the Vermont teddy bear company. Okay. Okay. So, let's talk a little bit about what you have going on.

So, you have a mission trip. When are you going? I'm going November 6th is when we're traveling out and we'll be there for a week. And, you're going to… The Dominican Republic. Okay. So, now, hold on. Where is that at? What, do you want me to act like I know? I don't know. Where is it? What do you think, Dan? What do you think?

Yeah. Hold on. Let's do a quiz. Dan, where's the Dominican Republic? It's somewhere south. South. Dan says south. A solid guess. Being in the Northern Hemisphere, always gets south. Your chances are good. It's not Canada. Okay. So, it's off the southern tip of the United States, Florida.

See? You head south. That's Cuba. Huh? Yeah. It's there. It's down in that area. It's in the islands off. You don't know either. Central and South America. That's Cuba. Okay. All right.

You're going somewhere near Cuba. Go. Okay. We're traveling with Haitian ministries. And that may be a little confusing. Also known as Cubans. I'm with you. Sure. Okay. I guess. Anyway, we're actually going to be working with Haitians that are – why is this squeaking? Okay. That have been relocated to the Dominican Republic.

And so, basically, what's the scope of the ministry? What do they do there? Kind of with most missions, I guess, it's kind of – your main focus is to make followers of the people there. I mean, not followers of the people, but followers of Christ of the people. I was going to say, I don't think I can support this mission. Well, if I got a – Today, we're going to follow Pete. Everybody loves Pete. Come on. Look at him. He has a great hat. You got to start walking, Pete.

Otherwise, we can't go anywhere. Okay. So, followers of Christ of the people. So, do they have like an established church there that they're after or that they're part of? As in a denomination? Is that what you – Well, not necessarily, but like is there a church that like – that everybody attends there or are you guys just like a street outreach ministry? There are actually seven churches in the area and there is one main mission house, I guess you could call it. The missionary that's there is – his name is Jean Paulite and he's the one that we'll be working most closely with.

Well, it sounds like a cool name. So, how did you get involved with this organization? Well, actually, my brother asked me over Labor Day or Memorial Day, whichever one just happened a month ago or so. He asked me if I wanted to go on this mission trip. It's his first mission trip as well. And I said, nope, can't do it. I have too many school bills. I have this, that, and the other thing. I can't go. It's too soon. And I got home and I was just thinking of a lot of different things that I was – what my goals were for the next couple of months and I just thought, man, my priorities are

a little screwed up and I just thought, you know, I'm not doing what I'm here for if I'm – I don't know how to explain that, I guess. I just – I feel like I'm here for a bigger purpose than to pay off my school loans, which I understand that's a big part of – Yeah, me too. I feel that way. Down with school loans. You're right. It's a big part of responsibility. I understand that. I'm going to type in it right now. What am I doing here? And I think that's true.

I think you – that's a realization that I think a lot of times we get caught up in the lives that you lead, the things that you're supposed to do, right? I'm supposed to work. It makes sense to work. No one's arguing about working. But like when you look at the big picture, your life is filled with a bunch of little things that you're supposed to do and you don't actually end up doing the thing that you were created to do. Right. You're ending up describing everybody on cell block E. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to do what everyone else is doing. I'm going to do my own thing.

That's what gets you in the slammer. No. What? No. Yeah, I'm saying. Free thinkers. The downfall of society. Do what you're told. Anyway, so when you go on this thing, you say you're going to be gone for a week, right? Correct. And you're helping to build a place for people to stay at, for refugees to stay at? What it is, John works with men in the area churches or brings men in from the community and he trains them to be ministers or teachers, leaders of the area churches.

So, when he brings them in, he kind of needs a place for them to stay. So, we're kind of making his house a little bit more equipped to house them for that duration of the training. And how many people do you look in the house at a time? 30. What do you think about that, Dan? I think 75, 80. Well played. Come on, Dan. What do you think? How many dudes? 75, 80. Probably 75.

That's a big house. That is. A lot of food. Yeah. Castro's on his way out anyway. You're right by Cuba. You can just stay at his place. That's true. Grab a missile. Okay. So, this doesn't sound, I mean, plane tickets, hanging out for a week, this doesn't sound like a necessarily cheap venture. I'm assuming this is costing something.

It is. We have to pay for the plane tickets. We have to pay for the mission house where we're staying. We have to pay for a translator for transportation costs. All in all, it's going to run us about $1,200 per person. That's really not bad, though. No, it's really not. I mean, if I don't pay my school loans, yeah, I've got that pretty much money to just show up out of nowhere. It's hanging out. Take my Mazda. I don't even need it. Yeah.

There you go. So, if people want to help to offset some of this expense that you've incurred, how can they do that? I've spoken to Dan about the church sponsoring me. Is that how you would say it? Of course. So, we've kind of set a thing up where if you want to make a tax-free, tax-deductible donation, you can make a checkout to the church, or you can give through the church. I think he set something up online to pay or to donate. Let's just see if it's there. Okay. It's supposed to be there on our website? Yes.

Okay. So, you can go out there and you can specifically allocate money to help you. Okay. Cool. And last weekend, I actually traveled up to Wisconsin where my parents live, and there are a couple different churches in the area that allowed me to come in and speak to them on behalf of the mission and talk to them for as minimal amount of time as possible because I get really nervous public speaking. And you were able to raise some money that way? Right. Boy, I feel like we better pony some up, you know? Yeah. We can't have people leaving their home church coming back and we haven't raised nothing.

Yeah. That'd be embarrassing. Okay. I'm sure. Well, it sounds… So, and when's the cutoff for the donation? Up until the time that you're getting on the plane? Well, actually, I paid for my plane ticket myself and just raising money to kind of put that back on my thing. So, that's taken care of so far, and the rest of the money that I'm needing for the, like I said, the transportation costs and the translator fees, that I can be getting money up until November 6th, really. All right.

Okay, good. So, if they want to donate, they're going to pathonline.org. Is that right? Is that our website? Yeah. Yeah. Pathonline.org, and there's a giving tab, and then there should be something located by the giving tab to donate some cash. There should be, but it did not show up. Okay, there's not one there. I'll fix that. It'll be there by tomorrow. Okay, it'll be there by tomorrow.

No one's listening now, so by the time you guys hear this, it's going to be up and rocking. So, go there and donate some money for the mission trip, mostly because, you know, as the Christian radio show said last week, you're not spreading the gospel, so you possibly pay someone else to do it. So, were you able to raise a little funds last week? I was. Through the two churches, I raised close to $300. Through my parents' church, my dad has actually asked if we could leave the plate out for three weeks or whatever, just so that people who forget to bring their money or things like that. Right, the guilt plate. Yeah, exactly. You pass by it three times.

Yeah, and you're like, oh, I really should give something. Does it have a picture of a small child next to you with a fly on his nose? One arm missing. He just needs a place to sleep. That's right. Oh, so he's, we raised some money through my dad's church. So, you need another $1,000 about, I mean, do you have like an exact figure that you can help us with here? Right, okay, yeah, sure. I need, right now, about $600 is what I'm, what I have left. $600 is when we reach our goal. So, it looks like, I mean, we have 45 minutes left in the hour, I need to see these phones ring it.

You know, if I don't see these, the Holy Spirit is leading you to donate. But seriously, if you want to donate, so you can go to the pathonline.org, hit the tab and go ahead and donate that way. If you are a member of the local church here at Pathway, either talk to somebody, flow to check this direction, or just get it taken care of. Throw in the offering. Yeah. Put Kelly's name on it, we'll know what it is. Put Haitian ministries on it. Yeah, that's. Put something really hard to spell on there. Make them write something, like, really hard. What's a hard word to spell?

Let me ask you this. Write something in Creole. How's that? As a guy that handles, so if an offering comes in, and I put 50 bucks in an envelope, and I wrote, like, hot tamales on the outside, what would you do with it? Would you assume there's a specific, like, would you try to find me, or would you just say general fund? I'm guessing that the treasurer would come back to you and say, guess what? But you need to take off this designation, because that's not how it works. You'd give the money back? Yeah. What if it's just cash? 50 bucks cash?

Hot tamales. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm just going to give 50 hot tamales. Then we would probably make some legitimate tamales and give them to the food pantry. Well, you guys are like a big puppet. You know what I'm saying? Whatever I write on the offering plate, it's what happens. Like, four clowns. Next week, there's clowns. And juggling. Shoot, someone keeps giving to Polar Bear. What are we going to do? All right, well, you're listening live from the path.

Kelly Johnson's joined us tonight. Like Mike said, if you want to provide some support, you most certainly can. If you're a local member here at Pathway Church, you can drop it in the offering box. Do not write hot tamales to Polar Bear on it. It's not going to get where you want it to go. Put Kelly's name on there, or Haitian Ministries, or something that has something resembling that we know how to get it to her. I was told through the coordinator of the trip that if you put my name on it specifically, that it'll mess something up with the tax deduction. Yeah, then it's like income, and it's like around the ministry. Just want Haitian ministry, huh? Haitian ministry is on it. Okay, cool.

Done. All right, I think that can be done. Well, excellent. I think that'll be awesome. Hopefully, but if I – now, do you have – would you say that you have skills in this area of like putting up ceiling fans and making bathrooms and stuff? Actually, they asked me that when I contacted them and said that I wanted to go on this trip. They said, what are your gifts? And I kind of did what I did with you when you said, tell me about yourself. Um, what do you want to know? I'm from Vermont. Yeah, exactly. I can travel.

Yeah, I travel well. There's one to start, Mr. Man. Hey, man, I'm coming already. What do you want from me? You're so picky. Yeah, so that was the question that I kind of said, well, you know what? I don't specifically have, hey, I am this amazing ceiling installer or anything like that. But I love kids. And that's what I told her. I said, you know, I love kids, and I love helping with – I love people. Um, and so I think that that in itself will be a good ministry there. Um, and I said, I follow directions well. When I told my dad, he laughed, said, help him call me.

He doesn't think I do. It's north, south. You're not really helping your fundraising. Yeah, no. Um, but I mean, I – if you tell me to do something, I can follow through. We need a new ceiling fan or a new exhaust fan in the bathroom. Could you go ahead and do that? Sure. To warm you up for the trip? Sure, I'll see what I can do about that. But, um, so through all of this, um, and I said, oh, I'm pretty strong. You know. Oh, yeah.

I have three older brothers. I tacked that on everything I say, too. Of course, yeah. Would you like a Big Mac? You bet I do, because I'm – I'm big and strong. No. I'd get three, but I'm low on cash. No. Um, so I said, if you give me a project to do, if you need things moved, I can move it. Especially kids. Yeah. That's right.

But, um, when I actually talked to them about ministering to the people, um, I found out that that culture, the women are actually kind of – Strong? Lower? Oh. Yeah, strong. Oh. What are those? So, um, and I don't exactly know the culture, per se, but, um – You're just there to kind of help. Yeah, and that's – And that's – Exactly.

When I told her those things, she's like, great, that's what we need. Um, because – she said, we'll have the men there that will minister to the other men and the women. Um, there will be a day when they're ministering to them, then the three of us ladies that are going will be traveling to the area schools and – Oh, well, good. That – Helping them, so – That sounds like a – like a very, uh, informative time. You know what I'm saying? A chance to lend a hand and see what other cultures are like and talk some Jesus, maybe if not a ton, but at least some, you know, just to see how the culture is going. That would be very cool.

What language do they speak down there? Is it Spanish? French. Creole. I think it's French. Is it really? French Creole, yeah. Yeah, I think it – I think there are some that will speak Spanish, and I don't know other languages. Maybe some pig Latin. Because you're not there to speak, you're there to swing a hammer and paint and do what is necessary. And I feel like loving people and helping people really – I mean, you don't have a lot of

language barrier with that. Yeah, a hug is the same in all languages, man. Oh, that should go on a mug or something. I'm sure it's a T-shirt. I sure it did. If I wasn't so bulky, I wouldn't have broken mine. That's not true. What? Your basic hug is an assault in Burundi. No, it isn't. It sure is. Matt, did we do a quiz here with – did we talk about that, like the different cultural profanities that aren't profanities in our language?

Uh-uh. Like the wave is like a super offensive in French or something. I can't remember. Yeah, see, you can't give the peace sign in England. People don't like it. Huh. Well, it's not a great quiz. I'm going to try to keep myself unchecked. It's probably good to know some of this stuff before you go south. I guess. So maybe I should be careful who I hug, huh? That's right. No doubt.

How do you find that out? Dirty gestures in Haitian? I don't know. Just to suspend you. Dear Google, things not to do in Burundi. You're listening to Life in the Path. Thanks for joining us so far tonight. We do appreciate – hey, many apologies to you all that are hanging out on the chat. We're having an extremely slow stream tonight. So hopefully we'll catch you on the back end. We'll post the full show in excellent quality. Yeah, and the podcast picks up full quality. Yeah, yeah.

So we'll get all that stuff out to you so you can watch it. Maybe we'll just rebroadcast the show straight on tomorrow at the same time so that you can watch it there live and do the chat and stuff. So I appreciate you guys hanging out. I tell you what, let's delve into one of the other items that we have to do tonight, which is we're on week 21 from GodIsImaginary.com. So this is a guy. He's a man that does not believe in the Lord, and he's got 50 proofs of how God is imaginary. We're walking through those as a lighthearted but hopefully helpful exercise. I think there's a legitimate. I think he looks at these and says, these are proofs for me that God is imaginary. And so as people that love God and follow Christ, we should be able to discuss those in a helpful manner for people who do believe that and see if we can come to the conclusion that God is indeed not imaginary. So he's got 50 proofs we're walking through week by week. This is proof number 21, and this one is understand Jesus' core message.

And here's his explanation. It says, simply take a moment to think about the following statement. Hello. Oh, oh boy. Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you were conceived in the womb, and I will love you for all eternity. I died for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and worship me, and if you do not eat my body and drink my blood, then I will incinerate you with unimaginably torturous pain in the fires of hell for all eternity. Bwa ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Ah, exclamation point. Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6, 53 to 54 and Mark 16, 16. Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the standard model of God, that's capitalized. What is that, standard model of God? You heard that? I don't believe it's a capitalizable doctrine. I'm unfamiliar with the standard model of God. Okay. We have a being who, according to the standard model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all eternity. What sort of love is that?

The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should make it obvious to you God is imaginary. What do you think, Dan Hudson? Listen, some things popped out. We've determined through the previous 20 posts of his that he has some issue with prayer. He does bring in prayer again. He doesn't say it works or doesn't work. He doesn't say it's effective or not effective. That has nothing to do with proving whether God exists or not. So you can throw that part out. He completely misrepresents, really, the message of Jesus. He's just being kind of facetious. He's just kind of having fun with it. He's being silly.

Yeah, he's a silly man and going, see, he's imaginary. Once again, it's not his proof. It just proves he doesn't like God. That's all it proves. You know, like I listen to it and like to my ears it seems disgusting. But from an outsider's point, I don't know that he's missed the mark too much. Look, I love you. I died for you. The prayer thing is a bit, you know, obviously. And he's thinking literal things that aren't literal, like eat my blood and drink my body. Okay, so get rid of the prayer. Get rid of the I'll give you anything in prayer because we've talked about that. That's not necessarily the case.

And then the eat my blood or drink my blood and eat my flesh thing, that can go. But like everything else, it's an accurate portrayal. Like God says, look, I made you. I love you. I died for you. If you don't listen to me, you'll be incinerated in a fiery pit. Yeah. That's pretty straightforward. Like now here's the thing. Like is it the way that he's phrasing it that makes it sound ridiculous? So what part of the gospel is he missing in just hitting the bullet points? He's missing the balance of the love and the justice of God. That the justice says when you sin, there is punishment.

The love says I will pay that penalty for you. And he's totally missing that and saying, you know, you're going to insinuate, you know, the actual message of the gospel is so, so clear that God loves you so much that yes, he has standards and yes, there are rules. And if you break them, then there is punishment. But he said, man, I love you so much. I will take your punishment for you. So I personally will go to the cross for you and die. It is a story of love, not a story of I can't wait to see you burn in hell. And so he's just twisted it probably because he doesn't really understand it. He's never really read it, never really taken time to get to know God. He's gotten to know religion and religion messes everything up. Do you think religion tends to misrepresent this message? I think quite often. Like here's the thing.

I've been thinking about this because I will – a lot of times we talk about this and I always say things like, you know, I think the church has fallen short here. The church hasn't done a good job here. But the truth is I'm only looking at people's reaction to the church. Most churches that I've been to, they're pumping the gospel out. They're saying that you're a sinner who needs a Savior and God provided that Savior. And, you know, look, a perfect – the character of God is perfect and not to be left wanting. And you don't fit that bill. God realized that and said, look, I don't want to see you go away just for this. I'm going to provide the sacrifice. I'm going to cover what – because you should be dead. I should have killed you because that was the – like if you want his extreme justice, he said, look, the penalty for sin is death. He should have killed you immediately as soon as you did not act in the character of God. But he didn't, and he provided grace and mercy to do so.

And then, you know, Christ covers the payment by dying on your behalf. And then, you know, all you have to do is accept that gift. And, like, I don't see a whole lot of churches failing at this point. Do you? I guess I don't attend a whole lot of churches, right? I attend this one. Right, right. It's not like I go church to church looking for people who are pumping out unsound doctrine. But, like, how are people getting the wrong end of the stick on this thing? Well, people evaluate themselves poorly. Like, for example, he finds it outrageous that the penalty for sin would be death. Right. Right?

Because we make concessions on ourselves. I'll give you an example. Ready? So I was at work this week, and I'm walking up the stairs, and I got a cup of coffee in my hand. And I'm walking – and as you go up the stairs, if you get too much of a jaunt when you got an open thing of coffee, you're going to spill coffee out the mug. Okay? So I did. I'm walking up between the third and fourth floor, walking up, and I spill coffee on the mug on the stairs. I'm nowhere near any paper towels. I'm late for a meeting, a pretty important meeting. And it's getting toward the end of the day. Someone will be by to clean it up here in a little bit. The janitor staff is going to come by.

The previous day – you're going to see a pattern here. I was in the break area. I had gotten some coffee, and I was turning around to walk away. I'd overfilled it, and I spilled some on the floor. I grabbed the paper towels. They were close. I cleaned it up, and I went out about my business. Now, my first example, right, is it okay that I didn't clean up the coffee in the stairwell because I was a long way from the paper towels? Does that make it right to not clean it up? Just follow me. No. Okay. Does it make it right to not clean it up because I'm late to an important meeting of which I'm an important party?

No. Is it okay not to clean it up simply because a janitor is coming by within the next half an hour or so to wipe it up? Yes. And we pay that guy. I'm with Dan, but no. Okay. We'll follow your logic. So the thought is, like, I made a concession, a bad one, I might add, in my mind that I thought through the reasons why. Well, maybe I don't have to clean up the coffee I spilled in the stairwell. Maybe the thing I did was not so big of a deal because, not because cleaning up coffee is out of my pervy. I did it yesterday, right, but because it's really inconvenient for me to do it. It's going to take a lot of time. It's going to cause other impacts that I don't want to deal with.

So when people look at their sin, right, they can make a lot of excuses as to why this isn't such a big deal. And they have it in their mind that the things they're doing aren't such a big deal. And so when God says, the thing that you've done is a sin and it separates you from me and is punishable by eternal punishment in hell, we look and say, well, that's outrageous. I mean, I've done a lot of good things. It's not really so bad. Other people do worse. It's we don't see sin the way God sees sin. And so he can look at a statement like that and without at least taking in God's perspective, he thinks God is ridiculous because he's overreacting to this thing that we've made concessions. But the thing is with sin, we make concessions at a selfishness because we don't want to think we're that bad. We don't want to think the thing we've done is so poor. And we don't want to be able to have to evaluate our lives in a harsh light. So we make concessions. And I say to myself, Ben, you're a good guy.

You cleaned up the coffee yesterday. And that janitor is going to be by here pretty soon. So, I mean, you could clean it up, but he's just going to get it. Now, yeah, we pay the janitor. And you could make the case that, like, we do pay him to do that. However, I spilled it. I made a mess. And I really should be cleaning it up. It's not right just because some other guy also comes by and can do it. Is Jesus the janitor in this metaphor? He come by and cleaned it up? Yes. That really tied it in.

That's where it hit home. Can I simplify this story a little bit? Okay. Let's just use a different analogy here. You're walking by a house, and it's on fire. And there's someone upstairs. And you say, hey, the house is on fire. If you don't get out of the house, you're going to burn. Now, is that an evil? What am I saying? Or is that saying, by the way, as a result of you staying in that house, you're going to burn. I'm trying to save you from that.

I don't think you could use that metaphor. Because if I was this guy, I would say, you hit that. You set the house on fire. You created the burning house. No. It's the laws of the universe. And then Jesus would say, you made me do it by your behavior. I told you, if you don't light a match by the gas can, the place won't explode. You chose to light the match. Here's the thing. Like, sometimes I do catch where they're coming from with a character of God's struggle. Like, I get that part sometimes. Only, and it's, see, and I don't know why I get it, too.

Because I understand why God, I'll never understand why God does totally everything that he does, right? But like, I get it. He basically says, look, I made you to be, you know, to compliment me. In my own image, I made you, right? And then you screwed it up. It wasn't me. I didn't cause you to fall. But you as a human race screwed this up. And I've been working night and day for generations to try to get you back and show you how to get back in community with me. And you're kicking and fighting and screaming. And so, like, I get that part of God's heart.

But, like, from the big swath view, people talk like this to me all the time. Like, they explain the gospel like this. Missing, the two things they're generally missing is accountability and grace. The two things that, like, they won't recognize that their lifestyle has caused a separation from them, from God, right? And if it has, they won't acknowledge that there's anything wrong with that, right? God has left me. Not me left him. So what? I do this and this and this. Is that enough for my wife won't leave me? Why would an all-loving God leave me, right? Not missing that God's, you know, right behind him working his tail trying to get people to

turn around. And, you know, they're just not willing to give up enough of their pride and their own sin to drop it, you know? Well, once again, this does not disprove God. It proves the fact this guy doesn't like God's message. God's not imaginary. He just doesn't like what God has to say. Right. Actually, I mean, that's a fairer statement. I mean, if you just don't like God, you don't agree with the things that he does, you feel like you're morally superior and then you have bad judgment, fine. I mean, like, God's kind of laid himself out there and said, here's my character. And if you're like, well, I just don't like that guy, I suppose.

That's a better place for you to be in, right? I'd rather have you hotter, colder, instead of lukewarm, right? Yeah. If I see a stop sign and think, I don't like the message, and I blow through it, that doesn't mean there wasn't a stop sign. It just means I didn't like it. I didn't care for it, yeah. It doesn't disprove the fact that there was a stop sign. Yeah, good luck in court saying it was imaginary. Oh, no. Yeah, it wasn't really there, you know? It said the stop, I didn't want to. Yeah, I didn't even, I saw it, I chose to not acknowledge it.

So I feel for him, and yeah, he needs to work some things out, but it does not do what he was wanting, which is to disprove the reality of that. Yeah, basically all it does is feed into people who are looking for a pivot point, right? It's color commentary to get people riled up, right? Like, if you're already leaning in that direction, you read something like that, and you go, yeah, that does sound ridiculous, you know? So, that's too bad. Yeah. So his last thing was, the utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should make it obvious to you, God is imaginary. That's not a right place for a period. Anyway, he's grammatically aloof. I know, man.

Sorry. All right, so that was proof 21. He definitely disagrees with God. God being imaginary seems to be not necessary. Let's take a look at what proof number 22 is going to be, just so you have a preview for next week. Proof number 22 is count all the people God wants to murder. Oh, it's going to be excellent. Okay, there's a… So out of 21, we have a serious 20 really poor arguments and one half. Yeah. Well, like I said, probably what these reveal more is just as much as the Bible is not necessarily a rule set for godly living, more it just reveals the character of God so you can determine

subsidiary rules. This man is basically revealing his character. That's all he's doing. When you write more than three things, your character is bound to start soaking out, right? And his character is, he just, I mean, he's fighting God something fierce and he does it all on emotion, right? Count all the people God wants to murder. You use the word, the word murder comes with years of inflection. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a loaded word. As soon as you say murder, that means more than kill. You know, it means malice and terrible disdain.

And so, like, he's more, he's binging on emotional arguments, which, like, that's not a bad thing. Like, if you flip that around, emotional arguments made on God's behalf are sometimes very touching, but people see through it sometimes, too. You know, sometimes you've got to show up with the cold, hard facts and call the gospel what it is. Yeah. All right. All right. So, we'll see what he's got for himself next week on, look at, count all the people God wants to murder. Can't wait. It sounds excellent. Well, I'll tell you what we're going to do.

We're going to do America's, Mike, here's the thing. There's a lot of internet game shows out there. There is? I don't know. I've been stuck in the Creole chat rooms. But if you want to be part of America's fastest-growing internet game show, you want to be part of Secular vs. Solomon. So, I'm going to sing it, and then we'll cut into it. Ready? Here, I'll do the tunes. You do the announcement. Okay. And now, America's fastest-growing internet game show, Secular vs. Solomon.

Secular vs. Solomon. That was actually pretty close. There you go. There it is. I watch it at home. So, here's the low-rate rules of the game. I'm going to give you a proverb, and you need to tell me whether that proverb is a secular, a worldly bit of wisdom, or whether it is from Solomon, or a biblical bit of wisdom. All right? If it is a worldly bit of wisdom, you also need to tell me the country or a region of initiation. Got it. Where did it come from? Everybody clear on the rules?

Got it. Yes. Okay, here we go. Secular vs. Solomon. Number one, experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Secular or Solomon? Dan Hudson. I'm going to say that's a secular from the Dominican Republic. Bald people in the Dominican say, give me a comb of experience. Yes. Kelly Johnson. I believe that it is secular as well.

Boy. All countries are on the table, Kelly. Any one of them. All right. Except for that one. Cuba, then? That's close to the Dominican. Staying in the southern hemisphere, Dominican Republic slash Cuba, one country. It's a southern thing. As far as I'm concerned. Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Mike. Secular Chinese.

Says the Chinese have trouble with bald people. You've seen them. Okay, here we go. First of all, what does this mean? Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. After it's too late, you figure it out. Hindsight is 20-20. That's the same proverb. Okay. Okay. Here's the comb, bald man. Ha ha. Too late for you.

Once you get in the rickshaw, you realize you should have walked. Yep. I'm with you. Okay. So, here we go. Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Secular Belgium. That's right next to China. Belgium is the answer. It's a European distinction. Not made by anyone in the room. Dang it. Clever.

Here we go. Measure a thousand times and cut once. Measure a thousand times and cut once. Secular or Solomon. Kelly Johnson. I believe that's secular and I'm pretty sure my mom said that to me. So, does that count as a… Is your mom her own country? Secular Vermont. Well, she's actually from the West Coast. Secular West Coast. There you go. Also not a country.

I'm sorry. Hold on. If Troy Engeldinger would have said West Coast, you'd have had him in two pieces. No, that's true. I'm sorry. That's because I'm wonderful, though. Be meaner to Kelly Johnson. She came in here wonderful. It was tough to do. Okay. I'm going to give you the Ivory Coast just to give it a little more flavor. Okay. That sounds pretty good.

Okay. Mike, measure a thousand times and cut once. Solomon. Mike says it's Solomon. Dan Hudson. I'm going to go secular and it sounds like maybe the Carpenters Union, so I'm going to say Soviet Union. Okay. Measure a thousand times and cut once. Please send hate mail to Dan.Hudson at ThePathOnline.org. Dan says Teamsters. All right. The answer is secular. Turkish.

Staying in Europe. That's right over there. That's with the birth of the unions. South of Europe. Dang it. Turkey. Wait a second. You tainted my guess there. You didn't even give me the right guess. Oh, no, no. I can't give you the answer. That would be cheap, would it? Yeah, I agree.

We don't have, I just gave you a legitimate area. All right. Whoever corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury. Whoever corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury. Secular or Solomon. Mike Foost. Is that ESV? All are ESV. Dang. Solomon. Mike says Solomon. Dan Hudson. Solomon.

Solomon. I agree. She bucks the grain and goes for Indonesia. Whoever corrects a scoffer gets himself abuse, and he who reproves a wicked man incurs injury. That is Solomon. Proverbs 9-7. An interesting bit of wisdom, because it's not really wisdom, it's just a heads up. If you correct a scoffer, you're getting abused, and if you reprove a wicked man, you will get injury. He's not saying ways to avoid it. He's just saying, it's going to happen. I've seen it happen. This is what's going to go down. I'd like to put this into action sometime.

I guess I've never seen someone scoffing and said, hey there. Stop it. Quit it. That's too much scoffing. You're doing that poorly. And then the wicked man comes out of nowhere. What did you say? What does a scoffer do? Like, give me a scoff. I just scoff me, so that I may feel it. It's like the British Parliament. The British Parliament guy's like, we're here today. We'd like to enact this law.

Hello, hey, hey, boo. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Naysayers? Yeah, the peanut gathering. Naysayers, yeah. Were you going to expound on that, Dan? No. You just said naysayers twice, but you said it in a different voice. Yeah, you summed it up. I disapprove of your life choices. Scoff. Is that right?

Is that correct? Scoff. Yeah. I suppose. Scoff and such. I don't like what you're doing. I don't like what you're doing. I don't like how you're doing it. Like I'm made sick by your behavior. I tell you what, when he describes a wicked man, not only is the man wicked, but he's willing to beat you down if you portray his wickedness. Well, he said the scoffer gets, you invite abuse from the scoffer, and you're at the wicked man is, I'm assuming when he says injury, that's physically violent.

Emotional injury is a 20th century distinction. No, Solomon didn't believe in that. Okay, here we go. So, the poor is disliked even by his neighbor, but the rich has many friends. The poor is disliked even by his neighbor, but the rich has many friends. Secular or Solomon, my food. That's Solomon, echoed by Jesus. Solomon plus Jesus. Agreed. Dan Hudson. I'm going Solomon as well. Also Solomon. Kelly Johnson.

I feel like a follower when you ask me last about those. Are you a fan or a follower? Fan or a follower. Classic. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Solomon. All right. Kelly Johnson is going with secular. What is the former Soviet union? The poor is disliked even by his neighbor, but the rich has many friends. Solomon, Proverbs 14, 20. Definitely.

I know that because my neighbors don't like me. Actually, your neighbors are union carpenters. That's why they don't like it. They're tearing my house apart right now. A group of teamsters that measured a thousand times and cut once. Hey, man, there's like 15 vans on my front. Okay, so traditional biblical wisdom would otherwise seem to talk about a man being rich in other ways. Is Solomon talking about money in this case? Yes. He is directly. Why does the rich have many friends? Because he buys them with their cash. You want a piece of it?

So we say the friends are real? No, no. They're actual friends. But like Jesus describes this when he, how, I really didn't start bringing my Bible. I don't know my Bible well. Now, here's the deal. He talks about it in, when he was talking, he was talking about money, and he basically said, look, you know, you don't want money to be your God, but if you're blessed with a lot of money, use it to make friends. Use it to bring people to Jesus. I don't remember that one. I need a Bible. I'm going to go get one.

Oh, no. Talk about shows. No, Mary Baker Eddy said that, and I recall. Mary Baker Eddy. Also, heal yourself with this $20 bill. And then give it to me. He who does not know one thing knows another. He who does not know one thing knows another. Secular or Solomon. Dan Hudson. That is a secular South Korean. If the South Koreans don't know one thing, they know another. Kelly Johnson.

A secular. Oh, I really need to learn my geography here. Any country will do, Kelly. All countries are still available. The North. South Korea is taken. South Korea is taken. Okay. North Korea is not. Yeah. I'll go with, yeah, sure. North Korea is good. Scandinavia.

Kelly Johnson votes Scandinavia. He who does not know one thing knows another. Scandinavian. Mike. I'm going to go with secular as well. And I'm going to go with. Where's Porta Vareta? Porta Vareta. Yeah. Is that his own country? Is that a standalone entity? What do you know? Could be.

Is it the answer or anything? Carson double checked that thing. Okay. He who does not know one thing knows another. That is secular. Kenya. Porta Vareta. Kenya. That's where the PV is. If you are a pig, endure the knocking. If you are a mallet, strike. Strike. If you are a pig, endure the knocking.

If you are a mallet. Go ahead, Dan. The union jokes can fly. Strike. Secular. Or Solomon. That is who who? It's your guess, Dan. You just gave me advice. I'm sorry. That is obviously a Polish. A secular Polish. Secular Polish.

Polish. Yeah. Kelly. Proverb. I forgot the word proverb. It's a key word here. Thanks, Dan. Okay. Secular. Sweden. Sweden. Good. Yeah.

See, I'm catching on. It was the Swedes. I'm going to go with secular and Porta Vareta. If you are the pig, endure the knocking. If you are a mallet, strike. What's the wisdom there? If you are a pig, endure the knocking. You do what you're made for. Live in your place in life. Sometimes you're the fiddle. Sometimes you're the bow. Thessalonians, right? If you were staying in the station you were at when you came to Christ.

Unless you're in the union, you don't have to do anything. Take a break. Answer is secular Morocco. That's right by Porta Vareta. It's Morocco. Did you look that up, Carson? We don't have any internet. Fair enough. The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of sense. The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of sense. Secular or Solomon. Kelly Johnson. Yes.

Solomon. I didn't want to be a follower again. Okay. Goes in with Solomon. Mike. Solomon. Solomon. Dan Hudson. Solomon. That's three for three on Solomon. The lips of the righteous feed many. The words of a righteous man are enriching to those around them, but fools die for lack of sense.

Proverbs 1021. Solomon. I called it. Whoever is slothful will not roast his game, but the diligent man will get precious wealth. Whoever is slothful will not roast his game, but the diligent man will get precious wealth, secular or Solomon. Mike Foost. Ecclesiastes. Solomon. Mike says Ecclesiastes. Dan Hudson. I'm saying Solomon as well. Also Solomon.

Kelly Johnson. I say Solomon as well. Which book, Dan? I would say Proverbs about 24. Proverbs 24. Proverbs doesn't go to 24. He goes to 31. Proverbs. That's the way to bring it, Dan. Your A game. I love it. Dan ended up going Proverbs. Oh, man.

I thought I had him. I had it confused with you. Mike, what was your guess for the space in Proverbs? I said Ecclesiastes 7. Oh. What is it? Just go to 31. Vapor. Vapor. What does he say? Life is vapor. Proverbs. It is Solomon Proverbs 12.

Proverbs 12. Vanity. Vanity. Vanity. A single dozen. Your pride cometh before the fall, Hudson. A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed fox. Kill or Solomon? Solomon. Solomon. Solomon. Solomon.

Is it fox or dude? It's man. Okay. If it's fox, I'm going secular and fox country. If it's not, I'm going Solomon. It is Solomon. Proverbs 6. He who goes to bed hungry dreams of pancakes. He who goes to bed hungry dreams of pancakes. Secular or Solomon? Dan Hudson. That is a secular Bolaris. Belarus.

Is that how you say that? Hudson goes back and reading it. Are you looking at countries on the internet? I did this time, because I can't think of it. All I know is South Korea. Belarus? How do you even know that? It's from a Belarusia. Who knows that? Who even cares? Wait a second. I have a friend who lived in Belarus. Yeah.

Belarus. You cheat, Rebo, Dan. I re-lawned. I re-land. I re-deaned. A Mary saw. He who goes to bed hungry dreams of pancakes. Kelly Johnson. Secular. Belgium. Secular. Going for two for the Belgians. Belgian waffle.

Well, yeah, that's what I've thought of. Belarus. Belarus. I did not say that one. Those are two different places. I'm going secular and Chile. When I was in school, we learned Soviet Union. There are two countries, Brother Hudson. Soviet Union and everyone else. Belarus, not important. Now get in cab. We squashed them. Belarus is a fake Russia.

Have a bell on front, like little boy. All right. He who goes to bed hungry dreams of pancakes. Malta. Malta. Secular Malta. Malta. What a mistake. All right. You have just, unfortunately, participated in a rousing. Game of the Internet's fastest growing Internet game show, Secular, or Solomon. Solomon. Solomon.

What was that? What are you doing over there? I just looked back there and thought, oh, there must be a hole in my curtain. I'm distracted. Okay. You ready to dish out some advice? Yeah, let's have it. Yeah, okay. Here we go. Dear Life from the Path, I have been dating a man, Jerry, who committed a crime years ago. He and a friend participated in several robberies. Jerry was unarmed and no one was hurt, although the victims were traumatized. Jerry was caught, served time in prison, has completely reformed his life.

He finished college, was married for many years, is a devoted father to his children, and holds an excellent job for which he is respected. Despite the way Jerry has lived his life, I am having a hard time getting over his past. Although I know he has done everything humanly possible to redeem himself, I can't help wondering what kind of person he is deep down. We are starting to get more serious, and he doesn't know I'm aware of his record. A mutual friend told me long before Jerry and I began a date. I'm concerned that if my children know about what he did, they will never accept him. Although I have never met someone with whom I feel so compatible since my divorce, I wonder if it's worth pursuing. Wait a second. Did she say that he was married and divorced, or is he still married to this first lady? He was married for a while, she said, which I assume means it ended.

Oh, okay. Just to be clear. Help me, life from the path. This man seems great. Well, ma'am, here's what I believe. I believe you're not quite mature enough to handle the relationship. That if you truly can't get beyond it, then bail. I mean, I think it's silly. I think it's unfortunate for both of you. But she obviously respects the guy, likes him a lot. Kind of read between the lines. She loves him, but is afraid. Indeed, she can't get past that herself, so she will always hold it against him.

If she needs to fix it, if she doesn't, she'll use it against him the rest of their relationship. Yeah, it's totally not fair to continue with that relationship if you're going to hold this past against him. I feel like he should have let this out of the bag already. Like a mutual friend told her about the criminal record. If they're getting serious, I feel like this should have come up already. Like, hey, by the way, I'm a convict. I can't own a pistol and vote. So, you know what I'm saying? These are good things. Like on voting day, when he's like, no, I'm not really interested. Why not? Seriously, do your duty.

No, no, no, I'm busy, busy. Got work to do, you know. Are you a felon? Yeah. I work for the union. I've got to get going. Yeah, I feel like there could be a lot more, you know, and maybe it should inform her that maybe she's not raised very tolerant children. Obviously, the man's paid his debt to his society. He's trying really hard not to follow down that same path. He hasn't done everything humanly possible, like submit his pride and ego to Jesus Christ and live a righteous way of living. But apart from that, her kids don't seem to be very tolerant of a guy who lives for that.

I think she's using that as an excuse for her to be able to hold on to it. Like, I'm protecting the children by holding on to this. Kelly Johnson, what are your thoughts? Well, I was kind of going to say something when Dan was talking. I mean, I don't know if this is biblical advice here that we're supposed to be giving, but the Bible talks about love keeps no record of wrongs. I mean, I think that that's a big thing when you're in a relationship. I mean, if you're open and honest with things, then you have to forgive people because when that comes up later, you don't want to have that to throw back in somebody's face. I mean, it doesn't seem like a good relationship if she can't forgive. Hey, forget about it, dude. It would be good for them to sit down and have the conversation. Hey, why haven't you told me about this?

I've heard about it. Where are you at with this? Yes, I want you to know that I'm kind of feeling like it could be a problem. And then he might bail on her, saying, wow, that happened like years ago, obviously years ago. But it is kind of odd that he hadn't told her. I don't know, several robberies. You kind of lose the ability to say, how dare you judge me? I traumatized people. My name's Clyde. My wife, Bonnie. Well, she's not with me anymore. I was married for a while. Until Geraldo discovered her right out.

They think I died. Meet my friend, Jay Hoffa. Secular says, let me help you. Jerry is a man who made a very stupid mistake in his youth who has paid for it. But it didn't stop him from turning his life around and making a success of himself. Many people respect that. I know I do. Because you and Jerry are getting serious, he should have mentioned his past to you. The two of you need to have a heart-to-heart talk. If you are truly worried about the kind of person he is deep down, this is the way to find out. Yeah, people don't lie, ever. You don't say, hey, look, we're going to have a heart-to-heart people. Put all their defenses down and spill the truth.

As for your children, once you accept him, so will they, if you impress upon them how hard he has worked to become the person he is today. Yeah, I just want to know, has he not told her because he's moved on? Or has he not told her because he's hiding it? Because that's two different things. Yeah. But, you know. She needs to go from there. A lot of people use it as a, you know, if they've overcome something, I don't know, I feel like it generally comes up. If they've done it in a, of course, I see this a lot with Christ, you know, more than maybe without him. But, like, if people have overcome, like, a gnawing sin or some behavior that they used to do, they're the first ones to jump on the rooftops and say, look, this is how I got rid of it. It's plaguing. It's terrible.

I'm going to tell you how to get out, you know. I used to have poor taste in clothing, and I changed a lot. Yeah. It's a wonder that Jesus has worked with you as well as he has. Dear Life on the Path, I've been going to a small community building near where I live to sing karaoke. I love going there because no alcohol is served. Everyone acts like family, and I can take my kids and grandkids. My husband doesn't go because he has other stress relievers, and we have different interests. He knows some of the people there and doesn't mind me going with my best friend. I love my husband very much. I am not looking for love. However, last month, the DJ's wife was waiting for me and said she didn't appreciate my singing with her husband. She never comes either.

And told me to stop leaving comments on his Facebook page. I tried to explain that I thought he was my friend, but she wasn't having it. She wanted to start trouble and ruin what happiness we all have. I thought about not going back, but I love singing. I haven't done anything wrong or said anything inappropriate. My friends at karaoke want me back, and my husband says I should go. I've been so down about this. There's no other place around where they don't serve alcohol. Please help me. So who was this other girl's husband she was singing with? Yeah, Juice Bar Karaoke. Can't she go and not sing with him? I don't know.

I'm sure. But they all act like a family, Dan. That would really break up their family atmosphere. Well, I would say she needs to honor the wife of this guy. I would still go. I would just not sing with him. I would say, hey, if he asks, I'd say, hey, you know what? Your wife really would appreciate we don't do it, so I'm sorry we won't do it. I have to respectfully decline. This is a grandmother we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what that means, but I mean, it's just like.

Yeah, instead of like. That usually means that her kids have kids. You're quick on that one. Yeah. I guess what I'm thinking is she's not like some young gal trying to work the crowd or anything. So that would be better if she was 30 years old and singing with another lady's husband. That's okay. But if you're an old lady, you can't do it. No, that's what I'm saying. That would kind of be worse. Then it'd be kind of like, well, what are you doing? But she's happily married. She's a grandmother.

She's not like out trying to steal some guys. You know, so she says. The husband seems to have no objection for her leaving the house. You know, husband, I need to go out and sing. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. You should go back. There's been confrontation there. No problem. You should really storm back in there. Just get out. You know what I'm saying? You're singing, you know, close songs with another man.

I love it. Whatever relieves your stress, baby. Endless love. Go for it. Yeah. You know, I think Dan's right. I think you backed down. Wait, wait. Could you flag the tape there? Yeah. That's a keeper. This one's not broadcasting, Dan. Sorry.

I think Dan's right. That's what I heard. Record it and loop it. But actually, I think Dan's right when he said, look, you know, your job is not to cause other people to stumble. And really, if that relationship with that man is more important than, as you view, the relationship with his wife, then that relationship between you and him is out of proportion. You know what I'm saying? You need to back down. Because, I mean, there would never be any friendship that I would say, look, I can't believe you're taking your wife's side on this. You know what I'm saying? If I ever think that, then it's time for me to back up. Because I've overexerted myself in a relationship I don't belong in. Yeah. And, you know, even if the guy's trouble with his wife is not reasonable, that's his thing to deal with.

Like, you need to stay out of the middle of that until it gets resolved, right? Yeah. Until she comes up. And, you know, is it awkward for her to be posting on his Facebook page? Everybody posts on everybody's Facebook page. I wonder what she's saying. Like, hey, I had a lot of great fun together. Like, that's weird. Right. Now, I have noticed some people are more sensitive about Facebook than others. Like, I know a lot of, I know a few couples where, like, they have a joint account. Yeah. You know, so it has, like, the wife and husband and wife's name.

Like, well, we're not doing anything secret. You know, I don't know. I suppose. Like, I mean, I'd totally submit to something like that. But my wife don't want to hear from my hillbilly friends. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And she looks at my Facebook and goes, how do you even know these people? Yeah. What is that? I'm like, I don't know. You know? Yeah.

Maybe we have a relationship where, like, we can trust each other. Yeah. You know, it's like, I would never do anything. And she never would either. And at the same time, she has my password. I don't care. She sees. I have nothing to hide. Yeah. I used to save password for everything. My wife could totally clean me out if I wanted to. I can't tell you. It's only me and my wife knows.

And that pad of paper she keeps in her desk. What's your dog's name again? Fido 2. Mike's dog 11. Let me in. Well, thank you for hanging out so far with us this week. We do appreciate you listening to Live from the Path. You can catch us every Monday night from 10 to 11 p.m. here on livefromthepath.org. Also, hey, sign up for the podcast. If you go up to the website, and there's a little podcast link there. You click that. You can sign up.

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