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Shouldn't there be some pizzazz in there? Because when he reads the Bible, he says to himself, there's just not any awe. There's not any wonder, not any inspiration. He's got some select passages that he wants to talk through. So we'll take a look at that, and we'll see what we think. And that's this week's proof from the man from GodisImaginary.com. So we're going to talk through that. Also, some stuff in the news. It's the Pope versus the manger scene. The Pope has come out with a Christmas book. And there's some things he thinks we have wrong.

And so we're going to talk through those, and frankly, whether they're a big deal or not. It's a book? It's a book. The Pope wrote a book. I've never heard. I mean, maybe they do that. I didn't know the Pope wrote books. It sounds like it happened. Apparently, they do. Who knew? I feel like maybe he's got a lot of stuff to do.

I mean, you have a pretty built-in audience. No, that's true. That's the way to make money. I mean, if I wrote a book and said, hey, everybody would say, who cares? You have written a book. You have written multiple books. Okay. See? Nobody cares. You didn't even know that. My point is well taken.

So we're going to talk about, we're going to look through what the Pope has got to say about Christmas. Also, from ChristianPost.com, there's a new quiz out today where you can see how good of, how much you really do love Jesus. Or how, they framed it as how much of a, how good of a Christian you really are from a 10-point quiz. Oh, buddy. So we're going to take this quiz and we'll see how things go. See if we make the notch, you know. Because my faith is generally affirmed by an online quiz. Exactly. If I'm doubting the rock that I'm standing on, I try to take online quizzes. I say, Lord, I realize you've provided an inspired word for me to like see my life through and your grace through. But I've decided to take this online quiz.

I feel like I might be built on some sand and I really need this quiz to tell me that or not. See how things go. That sounds like right out of like a teen magazine or something. Yeah. So we're going to take it. That's awesome. We're going to see how things go. Let's affirm its effectiveness. Also, we're going to do non-biblical signs of the apocalypse. There are things that the Lord put in the Bible and said, these are the signs of the end of the times. And there's a point when he told Dan, he said, shut the book.

All right. Don't show anymore. And some of these things I'm just not going to tell you about. And we're going to talk about, we're going to look at some stories that have been in the news recently and try to decide whether maybe these might be it. Maybe these are the ones that the Lord decided just not to reveal to us. So you're going to tell me whether this is a non-biblical, biblically firmly stated sign of the apocalypse or whether you think we got a little bit more time. All right. Well, I think that's what we're after. And then we will do a little bit of advice. People need advice on dear life in the past. We're going to hit you with some of that.

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He said, I got 50 proofs that God is imaginary. And we'll be walking through them week by week just to see what our response would be if confronted with this proof in normal day-to-day life. And so far, God's 25 and 0. But let's take it. Proof number 26. And the proof is, notice that the Bible's author is not all-knowing. Why, here's his commentary, why when you read the Bible, are you not left in awe? For example, look through this small collection of Bible verses. And so I'll read you a couple, a few that he's lead out here. So one of them is Genesis 38. Here's one of his example verse.

Then Judah said to Onan, go into your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her. Raise up offspring for your brother. But since Onan knew that the offspring would not be his, he spilled his semen on the ground whenever he went to his brother's wife so that he would not give offering to his brother. What he, offspring, excuse me, to his brother. What he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. So that's an example of the Bible's author is not all-knowing. Here's another one. Deuteronomy 25. If men get into a fight with one another and the wife of one intervenes to rescue her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals, you shall cut off her hand, show no pity.

This guy's got kind of a one-track mind. Yeah, yeah, I think he's got something going on. He's concerned about how the Lord deals with matters of the sexuality. All right, so anyway, there's just a couple examples. He's got like 10 bullet points. Well, here, hold on. Let's get one for the New Testament just to round out his examples. Luke 14. Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, even life itself, cannot be my disciple. That's from Luke. So those are his examples.

And he said, these verses feel like utter nonsense, don't they? We can find thousands of verses like these in the Bible. So we are forced to ask a question. Why doesn't a book written by God leave you with a sense of wonder and amazement? If you're reading a book written by the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe, wouldn't you expect to be stunned by the brilliance, the clarity, and the wisdom of the author? Would you not expect each new page to intoxicate you with its incredible prose and its spectacular insight? Instead, opening the Bible inevitably creates a feeling of dumbfoundment. Is that a word? Have you ever noticed that? Instead of brilliance, much of the Bible contains nonsense.

Several of the topics of the previous proofs, for example, where we discussed the Bible's advocacy of slavery, are excellent examples. But they are just the tip of the iceberg. You can open the Bible to almost any page and find nonsense instead of wisdom. Why, in other words, is the Bible so useless? Why does the author of the Bible, who is supposed to be God, who is supposed to be all-knowing, know so little? Why is the knowledge of the author limited to the knowledge of the primitive men who wrote the book? If you think about what you are reading in the Bible in the context of an all-knowing God who supposedly wrote it, none of it makes any sense. But if you think about the Bible as being a book written by primitive men like you would find in the remote regions of Afghanistan today, it makes complete sense. The reason is because God is imaginary.

God had nothing to do with the Bible. The Bible was written by primitive men, many of whom were obviously insane. Proof number 26, notice that the Bible's author is not all-knowing. Troy, what are your initial thoughts? I'm sure that he's very founded in that belief. What I see is, you know, when they talk about not using brilliant words and everything like that and then not wowing us, if you were to write a book that had, you know, incredible words and all these five-star words in them and all these wonderful sayings and everything that's so brilliant and so wonderfully written, the prose is just incredible, how is everyone to read it? How? People could enjoy prose.

When it comes to, but I think he's asking for just this intelligent speak that, you know, people are wowed by. I don't think that would be the point of the Bible. You know, it's supposed to be for all people. If it's got words that are above a fifth-grade reading level and some people don't have above a fifth-grade reading level, they're going to feel kind of left out from that book. I might disagree on premise that the Bible is not amazing. Oh, no. That there is not very eloquent prose in the Bible. That it is not filled with a sense of wonder and amazement. Now, the reason he comes to this conclusion is because he doesn't believe in God, right? So if there's just a guy saying these things, then you're not filled with wonder and amazement because you obviously believe they're not true.

If the story is of a fake God who creates a fake world and has fake grace, then there's nothing amazing about that because it's fake, right? If that's where you're coming from. But if God is real and he is a creator of the universe and he is a gracious God, he's a sacrificial God, he is a loving God, and he's put this word into place, then it is amazing because it's true. And I think that's the disconnect. I don't think anybody, even a general student of literature, is generally accusatory at the makeup of the Bible as an interesting story, eloquent prose, various literary features. And so, I mean, I think he's actually off even on the general atheistic consensus of the Bible. But his disconnect here is that God is fake, and if God is fake, then yeah, what makes amazing things, a fake thing cannot create amazing impact. Right. If you don't believe in God and you're reading the Bible, obviously it's going to seem like a lot of nonsense. Obviously, it's going to seem pointless, and a lot of it does seem pointless if you don't have that faith to back yourself up. The Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1 that the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.

He is perishing, and it's foolishness to him. Right. I mean, the Bible, I hate to break the news to him, the Bible already spoke to him about this. It's kind of like if I were to sit down, it's actually above him, okay? If I were to sit down and to read a manual on brain surgery, okay, it would not inspire me. It would bore me. I'd be going, this is just, you know, what a waste, right? What a waste. Who wrote this? What imaginary person did this? But to a brain surgeon, they would read it and be absolutely in awe and inspired if it was some big revolutionary new idea or something.

I mean, you know, I don't want to say we're all brain surgeons, but you get the point. I'm very intelligent. A brain surgeon understands the language. When a believer reads the Bible, we understand the language, we understand what's going on. The verses he brings up, he's taking completely, actually, if you look at them in context, there's a lot of awe and wonder in them. But he doesn't know the context, so of course he reads it and says, what's that there for? It didn't make sense. Actually, it makes great sense. Yeah. Yeah, so like it's, instead of brilliance, much of the Bible contains nonsense. Now, I would agree that you can read it and say, I don't agree with this.

I think God is mean or I think God is unfair or silly or whatever. But like, it's, people don't argue with something that is nonsense. People disagree with God because what he says means something and there's something there to disagree with. So the premise, you can't, here's what you can't do. You can't, in the same hand, say, I completely disagree with God. He is a bully. His rules and guidelines are misogynistic and they're homophobic and they're whatever, right? If he's fake, if it's nonsense, right, if I said, Troy, tree, husband, rainbow, you got it. There's nothing to argue with. That was complete nonsense, right? Right.

But if I accused you of something in clear language, then you could go ahead and argue with me for a while about it. But there's a premise to argue about. So if the Bible is nonsense, he wasted 49 proofs. One would be sufficient. It's nonsense. There's nothing to argue with. There's nothing to say is right or wrong because it's dumbfounding and it's nonsense. And so the premise of everything else he's written seems to fall away under the fact that I think it is, I can't discern it. It can be discerned. You just disagree with it and are arguing with God about it. Right.

And so, like, that premise isn't very good. He dug up a couple of things that he's concerned about, previous proofs of which what he says is, we see kind of the definition where he goes here because when he says much of the Bible contains nonsense, he says, several of the topics of the previous proofs, for example, where we discussed the Bible's advocacy of slavery, are excellent examples. So the distinction here isn't that it can't be discerned. It's that anything that I don't agree with is nonsense. And so the Bible is nonsense because basically I didn't write it. That's kind of the premise of where he's coming from. Because I didn't craft it. It doesn't agree with the things that I agree with. Then it has to be nonsense. But he's using the word wrong.

Right. He sees himself as God and compares everything to him. And therefore, it's imaginary. Which is how most people live, right? Exactly. Most of the time, when you disagree with something, the reason you would vehemently disagree or even voice an opinion is because you felt like you were in the proper place to say that it is correct and the other person is not and are thinking foolishly. He's just being dishonest, though. He doesn't like the Bible. That doesn't mean God's imaginary. I have a dog that goes outside and does things I don't like. Yeah.

It's still there. Yeah. I can't say, well, that's imaginary. Yeah. It's still there. It's not true. It's not true. I don't like that. It's nonsense. Look at it. Look at the shape.

I mean, you know, it's just I could come up with 50 proofs to say it's not true, but it's still there. It's still true. Yeah. And so, once again, he has not proved anything other than the fact that he's an angry person who doesn't like God and doesn't like the Bible. And I understand that. I can work with that. Yeah. That is a workable premise because it's at least not dishonest. Yeah. You can honestly say, I disagree with God in this manner. I think that's a foolish position, but, like, you can say that honestly.

But what you can't, to say that it's useless and creates a feeling of don't fail, although, I guess, back to what we were saying earlier, that could be an honest position. You could read the Bible and say, this doesn't make any sense to me. I'm blind. Of course, you wouldn't say I'm blind. You don't recognize it. But I would say it is just like the parables of Jesus' time or unable to be discerned by some of those folks because they are blind. If you spend time, you could learn it. Yeah. You know, you could have a fuller understanding of it. Yeah. But not just the casual reading.

In some texts. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. And so, just kind of filling out where he was coming from, it says, why, in other words, is the Bible so useless? Now, again, this is only on the premise of if the things are a lie, then they're not useful to you, right? But I would practically, I would ask, how do you know that they're useless unless you've attempted to follow them and look for the fruit, right? So, like, I can't say, for example, I remember when I was, I'd have been five, and my grandma had, you remember one of those exercise things where, like, it had a, it looked like a pogo stick, except for the bottom was, like, a holster where you put your feet, and then you sit on the ground, and you kind of, like, push, pull your arms out and push your feet out at the same time. Yeah. You know what we're talking about?

I think so, yeah. I haven't seen one in a long time, but my grandma had one. And see, if I put that on my head as a hat, it's useless to me. It is not doing anything for me, and it doesn't change my life whatsoever. However, if I use it, I put it on, I do it, I don't know, 30 minutes a day, I exercise with it, after three or four months, I might be able to see some action, some fruit from my using it. So it's only useless because you are not using it. That would be my general premise. And it doesn't make it imaginary. It's still there. Exactly. The pogo stick thing.

Yeah. Yeah. It's able to be used. My grandpa didn't get anything from it because he didn't ever use it. Oops. Who is, why does the author of the Bible, who is supposed to be God, who is supposed to be all-knowing, know so little? There are also, I just, I don't see the foundation. Yeah, I don't see the point of that comment. And what does he know so little of? Compared to me. Yeah, right, that's the comparison, right?

Because he didn't, like, what are you expecting to comment on that he did not comment on? That you feel like, now, you can disagree with the Lord's direction, I get that, but he knew it, you just disagree with what it is that he says he knows or the thing to do about it. Because I, you know, I don't find any significant gaps on the Lord's direction, right? Like, he's provided enough for us to move in the way that we need to move. I don't know. He's just gotten slanderous in this one. This one is off the charts. He's wasted a lot of effort coming up with all this writing and a website and trying to promote himself. When, well, we've said that before in the past. If I were an atheist, I'd say, dude, take down your sight. You're making me look silly.

You make us look silly, yeah. Yeah. You're making statements that can't be clarified. Here was something I thought was actually particularly offensive to guys in Afghanistan. He said, but if you think about the Bible as being a book written by primitive men like you would find in the remote regions of Afghanistan today, it makes complete sense. Now, so his judgment of primitive is exposure to, like, Western societal improvements, right? So, like, I do not assume that a man in Afghanistan, however primitive the region seems to be, whether he could be in the side of a mountain hole, right? I don't assume that that guy is less intelligent than I. He just lives a different life than I do. If he hasn't seen Lady Gaga, he can't be as intelligent as us. That's no doubt.

He has just not been exposed to the wonderment of the Western culture. Yes, we have it. We have it. Skinny jeans and Lady Gaga. He's going to look around and say, I am sure dumb because I've never seen that crazy box that delivers sin into your life. I finally now see the light. I just, like, that's just a, I mean, I suppose it's a glimpse into how he thinks. But you've got to think fairly highly of yourself and the culture that you live in to say that people, you can say that the surroundings are primitive. That's not untrue compared to what we have, like what our culture has. But that does not make that man primitive or his way of thinking primitive. I would say some of the greatest thinkers that are pointed to, especially from a philosophical realm, were alive prior to when a lot of the New Testament is considered to have been written, right?

Who are the great philosophical thinkers? You've got Socrates. You've got Plato. Greek thinkers that were alive prior to the writing of the New Testament. And he would not look back on those guys and say, look at those primitive men who can't think, who gave the basis of a lot of our modern thought today. Exactly. The foundation. And the guy in Afghanistan, so let's put him 200 years back. So you're still talking, like, prime thinkers, people like John Locke, people that you would refer to today as people who have added to at least society of thought, whether you agree with it or not, right? And so that's just a kind of an offensive. I'm not a guy from Afghanistan, so maybe I don't care.

But, like, that's a pretty offensive thing to tag on somebody just because you don't live next to me and do the things I do and live in the culture that I am in. You must be primitive and therefore would have produced something as archaic and stupid as the Bible. So, all right, that was proof 26 from the man from GodIsImaginary.com. We're walking through these one by one, all 50 proofs. God's 26 and 0, at least by our judgment. And we will hit proof number 27 next week. So proof number 27, this should be a good one, is think about life after death. And I think I kind of skimmed through this one a little bit. The basic premise here is who are we that we would be chosen to live after death when there are a bunch of other living organisms around animals, bacteria, things of this nature? What makes us any different? And I think the ultimate argument is that we're not different and that he thinks that we are the same as bacteria.

And so there's nothing to save, soul or otherwise. So I think we'll come back to the soul discussion he had a few weeks back. Yeah, what a sad life. Yeah, so there you go. That's proof number 27 coming up next week. You're listening to Live from the Path. We are broadcasting every week. The live show is normally Monday nights at 10 p.m. at livefromthepath.org. You can also check us out on 99.3 KTIA. And that show is on Saturdays, also at 10 p.m. You're listening to a special live broadcast, primetime, 7 p.m. on a Tuesday.

And you know why? Because I do what I want. We can broadcast on 7 p.m. on Tuesday if we want to. So that's what we're going to do. All right. So here's what we got. Let's look at these. Let's look at this Pope article. So the Pope's in the news and says, It's Christmas, but not as you know it. A new book released this week by Pope Benedict looks at the early life of Jesus and debunks

several myths about how the nativity unfolded. In Jesus of Nazareth, the infancy narratives, the Pope says the Christian calendar is actually based on a blunder by a 6th century monk who Benedict says was several years off in his calculation of Jesus' birth date. Does that matter to you, Troy? Dan? Nope. Nope. Don't matter to me. According to the Pope's recent… Wait.

Whatever. Do we have a… We're celebrating Christmas on not the specific day the Lord was born. Doesn't that tingle your belly? That's kind of old news. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Not worried about it. That's what I thought. Nothing to be concerned about here.

According to the Pope's research, there's also no evidence in the Gospels that the cattle and other animals traditionally pictured gathered around the manger were actually present. In that case, I can't do it. I've got to throw out at least half my decorations. Right. Exactly. I'm taking back my presents. And 90% of children's Christmas plays are certainly out. I believe we have some cattle down in the basement from last year's Christmas play. Do we really? Yes.

What a farce, Dan. They shall be burned. They may need to stay there. We'll keep them there. What would the Lord think? Tight up in the basement. Oh, man. Okay. Well, so, I don't know what, Troy, that don't bother you? That's not going to cause you any trouble? Not a bit.

Okay. All right. Well, okay, so here's my thoughts on that, right? These things are things that a person who, it may be, I don't want to make any assumptions here, right, but like, perhaps the guy that wrote the article is something, somebody that's not following Jesus, and this is the type of thing he would care about, right? Maybe so. What do they know of Christmas? Manger. Exactly. Donkeys.

Cows. And the proper date. These are things. So, if those things aren't true, it's like, well, aha. Well, that's not his birthday. Christmas is a shallow farce. Obviously. Everything we know is wrong because of these three things. Oh, here's the kicker. He also debunks the claim that has been perpetuated for centuries, I might add, that angels sang at the birth a staple theme of Christmas carols.

I get most of my theology from Christmas carols, Troy. Right, exactly. I don't know how you live your life, but I've stopped reading the Bible a long time ago, and I say, hark, the herald angels sing. That's what happened. So, is he saying that maybe they didn't sing, they just proclaimed? I don't know. I don't know about that. Because that would make a difference. What? Because the angels were obviously there.

Yeah. It's not clear. Or at least in the shepherds that were in the fields nearby. Well, yeah. So, I mean, I suppose if you want to make the case that they weren't at the actual name, the seed. But they were, yeah, they did appear to multiple folk. The glory of the Lord shone around them. They were filled with great fear. The angel said to them, fear not. Yada, yada, yada.

A multitude of the heavenly host praising God. You know, suddenly there was an angel saying, glory to God in the highest and on earth, peace amongst those with whom he's pleased. So, I have no problem if they didn't sing. Maybe they were just saying, maybe it was kind of a rap. You know what I hope? Lord God in the highest. That's awful. I'm not a rapper. I must learn. That's why the Lord created angels to do rapping.

You know, it's an interesting, there was a Bible on CD that we had playing in the prayer room like two or three prayer rooms ago. Yeah. And it's at the, it's a scene where they're saying, you know, holy, holy, holy, right? Right. And, uh, it, from Revelation. And, uh, and the guys were really depressing. Like when I hear the angels. And even kind of creepy. Yeah. It was terribly creepy.

I accepted, I expected like, you know, holy, holy, like people are like jazzed about it, but like there's these warlock type guys making these noises. And like, uh, I mean, I suppose you could say that the angels proclaimed, uh, that they spoke it, but I really don't see him doing it in some kind of like, uh, monk style. Yeah. I, I see them being, I mean, they are giving the news. I was going to say of the century, but be of the millennium of, of, of all eternity. I mean, for the, they understood where man was going, what was happening with them and the significance of the savior who had been in heaven with them prior being born on. I mean, they knew what was going on. It wasn't like, Oh yeah.

See, that's pretty, that's Jesus over there. You see that guy. He's kind of important to you this day. Someday you'll have little white buildings with wooden pews and you'll sit and you'll sing. Oh Lord. And you'll sing like this. I mean, yeah. I mean, they're like everything changes tonight. Everything. Yeah.

Everything in the universe has changed. I, I, they had the thing they've been waiting for. It's the thing that humanity did not even know it was to be waiting for. Creation groaning. Yeah. For the return of Christ. But you know, I mean, maybe it's that groan thing. Maybe they're just looking at it as like a pain in the intestine. I can't even do it. Uh, well, so anyway, the Pope has debunked that claim that the Angus saying at the, uh, saying at the birth.

That's okay. I don't care if they sung. I don't either. It doesn't say it. I've often thought that myself, but see, it really messes up the musical when you have a really great lyric there that you're like, well, we've got to make this a song. So, I mean, there's a lot of cool songs with that in it. I know. Does there, I mean, does it, it doesn't ruin anything for you, Troy? Like the, the, the, you'll never sing deck the halls again. Right.

With, with the same, the same fervor, fervor, you know, you have to wrap it. Exactly. You know, I don't feel as comfortable as I did before singing these, these Christmas carols because now I know, thanks to, uh, Pope Benedict, all these new truths of the nativity. So, so now here's the thing is, is, is again, I think it's a fair, I think it's a fair look to say, my guess is that the Pope wasn't coming out and saying, Hey, you guys have got this all backwards. Uh, and as a matter of fact, the, the quote, of course they talked to is, uh, a Vatican correspondent guy. Uh, and he told that the Pope wasn't so much aiming to debunk myths as trying to show that the Jesus depicted in the gospels is a real historical figure who walked on earth and

talked to people like anyone else. So like sometimes when you have these visions of, uh, a manger with like a bunch of chickens and a donkey and stuff around and, and, and some of this singing and it gives the vibe as this, we are celebrating a very happy, very, very joyous myth. And so I don't know, I think that makes sense, uh, to, to, to try to say, look, you know, there's nothing really harmful about what you're saying. Uh, but, but the reality of the circumstances were this, and that's important because it was a real thing that really happened that has a real life impact on you. Right. It's not so much a fairy tale that we, uh, we have based, uh, a holiday over. It's an actual event that happened that changed the course of, of the universe.

Yeah. Yeah. And our eternity. Right. I mean, 10,000 years into today, we're going to be, it's good news. That's still the, the good news. Absolutely. Does he get into the wise men at all? The white, the magi? Uh, he, uh, maybe perhaps in the book, it was not covered in the article from, because they shouldn't even be anywhere near the, uh, nativity scene.

No, no, they're way off. They're years out. You always see it in the Christmas play. They have one little, little box of, look at my freaking sense. You know, and, and okay, this is, I've always thought this is fascinating. I'd like to know what it really looked like. You go back through, through history and if someone, you know, they didn't know necessarily he was the son of God. They knew he was a king, probably prophecies that Daniel had written, you know, some 600 years earlier. Look for this sign.

This big deal is going to happen. The king of Israel is going to be born. So they're probably thinking the king. That's why they went to Jerusalem in the first place, looking for a king. Yep. Here's like, no, no, not here. So they didn't necessarily get it. When you brought gifts to a king, you don't just bring a little box of crap. Here's a little box of trinkets for you. I mean, like, like if you look at Solomon, when people brought gifts to Solomon, he got wealthy because people brought shiploads of gifts.

Yeah. They came in large caravans. That's probably why all of Jerusalem was abuzz when the wise men came because it wasn't just three guys on a donkey with robes, you know, carrying a trinket. They probably came up in a caravan on stallions, which is how they would have been riding at the time, uh, armed and with caravans of gifts and, and, uh, you don't really see that usually in the nativity because there's not enough room. Yeah. I mean, like what is Herod care if there's, there's three guys with beards trucking through in small boxes? There's three random dudes that are just come past just like, Hey, do you know where this

person is? They don't, those types of guys don't get audience with Herod. Right. Yeah. You know, you get audience with Herod because you're trucking and you're a threat or a friend. Yeah. Yeah. It was something monumental and they weren't paying homage to him. Um, they were paying homage to the new King, which caused all kinds of, of havoc. And, and, and so, yeah, yeah. And that's probably the point of his book is that, um, a lot of times the things we assume

are, are true really aren't, I mean, they're not like dangerous, you know, the nativity scene, you know, but it's not really accurate, you know, that actually the scene had to be so much more fantastic than, than, um, able to be pushed into this. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's just, just like movies. When you see movies, I've never yet seen a movie that makes me go, that's pretty much good because I'm limited by my imagination. That's probably what Jesus, that's probably how he did the Sermon on the Mount. You know, he probably had the mysterious look far off, you know, probably not, you know, except the passion of the Christ that that was pretty, except I think it didn't actually

go as far as it probably was like from the violent. Yeah. It was more violent than they could show on a screen. Uh, so there was another interesting thing about this, uh, about this is from CNN.com, uh, talking about the Pope's book about Christmas. Um, I thought this was an interesting quote. It said, but, but while the book points out that the gospels do not support the presence of animals at Jesus birth, a detail apparently added in later centuries, centuries. Uh, that's an interesting tidbit, right? Like if it didn't happen right away, there's no other option, but that it added happened later.

Some, some play manager, journalistic, props, props, uh, the Pope does not suggest that they should be thrown out of the nativity scene, which again, think about that. My guess is that the guy that's working for the Pope doesn't go, oh, by the way, the Pope doesn't want you to chuck it. My guess is that the journalist goes, so what are you saying? We should throw out the donkey and, and it's, but the response is interesting. He said, the Pope is a traditional man and he doesn't want people at all to change their traditions. And I thought, that's kind of a, that's kind of a weird thing to say, isn't it? You're wrong, but keep it. Yeah.

Is that what you mean? Yeah. Like I might say, I don't care either way what you do. It's just not in the Bible. Yeah. Right. But it's not, I wouldn't say it's going to hurt your faithful, but like, I wouldn't say make sure I'm a traditional man. Make sure to keep your traditions. Now, uh, coming from the, from that, uh, from the Catholic church, I mean, I suppose I get it right, but like, I don't know, it just seemed kind of a, of a weird thing to

say. Well, you know, there's a lot more power words coming from a Pope to the people of Catholic faith than me saying words to like a church. People would put through a filter of, yeah, that's really nice, but no, but I'm just a guy. I'm not like the guy. Yeah. So yeah, he probably has to kind of put that little disclaimer in there. Yeah, probably so. Or if he was really smart, he'd say, we have a new Catholic ordained nativity that you can buy for $29.95.

That would have been the thing to do. We've taken all the, everything else we've ever produced and took the donkeys out of it. No cows, no chickens, nothing. And he could sign each one. Get him for Christmas. All right. Well, so anyway, this is actually, the book looks pretty interesting to me. It's called Jesus of Nazareth, the Infancy Narratives. We've been talking to Pope Benedict. Pope, we want to thank you for joining us on the program. Here's what's going to happen, right?

If you're listening to that on the radio and you just turned it on, it would make you believe that we just had an interview with the Pope. Until you explain that we didn't have the interview with the Pope, we were just talking about it. That would be the honest thing to say. But does he mention in his book, I wonder, that it is the Catholic Church that selected December 25th? Oh, yeah. I mean, wait a minute, that's wrong. Yeah, we've been saying that for years. We've been saying that for quite a while.

We made it up, but we're going with it. We like it. It seems like a good time to celebrate. Anyway. And then put up a tree. So check it out. Check it out. Anyway. Gifts and presents. Jesus of Nazareth, the Infancy Narratives, available today at your local bookstore. Thanks, Pope.

You've been listening to Live from the Path. We're broadcasting here every Monday night from 10 to 11 p.m. at livefromthepath.org. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to release you for a quick station break on 99.3 KTIA, and we'll be right back with you. You've been listening to Live from the Path. Hey, so here's the deal. I'm going to give you guys, you internet folks, just a free heads up what's going on. So we're going to announce, towards the end of the show, a massive Live from the Path Christmas extravaganza. I'm pretty excited about this deal.

Unless the Pope shuts it down. Unless he just might. I really hope he doesn't. I think it would be a mistake. He might come. He might come. We're just reminding him that we were the guys that did the fake interview with him on the radio. We'll have donkeys. Well, he's refusing to show up. He's refusing to show up.

So here's the deal. It's going to be on December 19th, and it's a Wednesday, and we're going to have it at Crown Point here in Johnston. And boy, it's going to be cool. We've gotten a lot of the artists that have been in on Live from the Path for the last two years coming together, and we're just going to do some Christmas tunes. We're going to sit down. We're going to record it for the live broadcast. We're going to record it. You can be part of the live studio audience to be part of the broadcast. The show will be on the KTIA broadcast on that following Saturday, and then be our Christmas

Eve broadcast here at Live from the Path. Would you say it'd be kind of like a Geither homecoming? It'd be very, very similar to that. Yes, no doubt. You can be part of that stuff, Troy. I'm excited to be part of that. You know you want to be part of it. It should be really fun. We've got some artists coming in, and we're going to talk just for a little bit, and then we're going to turn the songs over, and you guys can just sit and enjoy. And if you want to go, like I said, it'll be at Crown Point here in Johnson.

It starts at 7.30, and it's free to get in. You can come in and just hang out and be part of the singing, be in the audience, and be part of that live broadcast. It should be a ton of fun. So we'll see you for that. Yeah. And welcome back. You've been listening to Live from the Path on 99.3 KTIA and on livefromthepath.org. We appreciate you hanging out with us here at Live from the Path. And just to remind you, all right, we've got a couple. We wouldn't be on the air if there weren't people that were supporting us to do it, and

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But be praying for the show that we would glorify God in our conversation, and we want to thank you guys for hanging out with us, and we do appreciate that. Okay. So here's what we're going to do. Now, this failed completely earlier, so I'm going to see. I need to see whether our music's running. No, it stinks. Okay. Okay, so we're going to do non-biblical signs of the apocalypse. Dan, do you remember the theme song? That's not correct.

Oh, I was close. Anyway, so here's the deal. We're going to do non-biblical signs of the apocalypse. There are things that the Bible just didn't say, signs of the end times, but just weren't included in the Bible. And so what we're going to do is, I'm going to read you some stories from the current news. We can decide if maybe that's one of those things. Maybe this is one of the signs of the end times that we just weren't made privy to. Maybe it's a non-biblical sign of the apocalypse. Or you could read it and go, you know what? That's not the sign of the end times.

I think we've got a little bit more time. We've still got time. We've still got a little time. If we are in Afghanistan, we would be clueless. Exactly. We would have no idea. We would have no clue. A.K.A. clueless. Very good. Okay. All right.

Here we go. Sorry, that just happened. First story. Cops. Woman said God told her to drive 100 miles per hour on U.S. Highway 1. Melissa Marie Miller, 41, of Port St. Lucie, Florida, is accused of laying on her horn and doing 100 mile per hour in a 30 mile per hour zone in Fort Pierce. An officer noted in his report that Miller had said that she was speeding because I was letting the Lord's spirit guide me, attributing her lengthy horn blowing to the Lord telling me to do it, according to the report. Miller was reportedly apologetic, but when asked how fast she was going, she said, yes, 100

miles per hour. Troy, what are your thoughts? Sign of the end times or we've got more time? I think we've got more time. That is just absolutely ridiculous. I was letting the Lord's spirit guide me, Troy. I understand, but I don't think that's one of those things that God was just like, hey, you know what? You guys don't need to know about the lady that's driving 100 miles per hour in Port St. Lucie and laying on her horn because of me. I don't think that's one of those things that God left out.

I think that's just not a sign at all. Did the horn sound like a trumpet? Was it a trumpet blast? It's not stated. Were any seals being broken in her car while driving 100 plus miles per hour? Were there four horsemen? Okay, now, relative to what you're saying, there could have been four policemen, a black one, a black one, a horn that sounds like a trumpet. What else would have to be true? She would have to be breaking seals, wouldn't she? She was sure.

And maybe a dragon or something coming out of the sea? She was breaking laws. I'm with you. Okay. I think it's apocalyptic. Was she eating like a taquito that may have looked somewhat like a scroll? She was dragging one out the window. She was dragging a butt. Let's say she was smoking. Oh, okay. So it looked like a rolled up scroll that she looked like she was eating it.

Yes. Okay. She is the Antichrist. Be careful. She may be the Antichrist. Because she is really messing up a scripture. Right. Exactly. All right. So, Dan, what do you think? More time?

I'm going to say that that is an early warning, an early child labor sign. The early pain. It's not here, but it's close. It's close. So, Dan, tell me a little about this, because I do hear this from people, because I was letting the Lord's Spirit guide me. Sometimes the Holy Spirit, and I would put it this way, gets blamed for a lot of weird stuff. I would agree with you. Sometimes it's mushrooms, or sometimes it's just an unstable human being that says, I don't want to take the blame.

God led me to do it. And it was really just someone doing some uninhibited thing that before the filter has kept in place, like, I think I'll drive off the road here. And you go, no, that's a bad idea. And then they actually do it, and that's what's going on. So, let me ask you this, in all honesty. What is it, how do you make a distinction from someone who is living a life under the direction of the Holy Spirit, and someone who's just saying, the Lord had me run down the highway at 100 miles per hour? I think if you look at their life as a whole, and you can look at Galatians 5, that says that the fruit of the Spirit is love, and joy, and peace, and patience, and kindness, and

self-control, and gentleness, and such, and so forth, that you can say, there is a person who is walking in the Spirit, and I would give them more credence than, say, someone who is, you know, cussing up a storm, and angry, and stealing things, and then saying, well, God told me to do it. If it doesn't line up with the rest of Scripture, it doesn't line up with what is obviously from God, then, you know, they're maybe delusional, or maybe honestly sick. I think that makes sense. And I think that's one of the things that people miss when they're talking about, I'm living my life by the Spirit. Well, the Bible tells us what type of fruit the Spirit should produce, and so, can you really reconcile the fruit of your life with what the Bible says the fruit of the Spirit

is? And I think people want to make exceptions for events, where they actually see something big happen, and say, this was the Holy Spirit was guiding me to do X, as if God doesn't work in His own context, and works outside of what the biblical direction would be, to show what the fruits of that Spirit are. It's an interesting thing, and you see that, I mean, there are denominations where, like, that type of living implies that, like, people are just kind of free-floating around, and the Holy Spirit's dragging them from place to place, and directing them on what to do. And I think there is some danger in that. There's a danger on both sides. You're in a dangerous territory if you undercut the work of the Holy Spirit and say, I'm going

to do this, is what I'm doing, and that God has not sent you the helper to help you live a life or allow you to live a life that you otherwise could not live. But you have danger on the other side of it, when, like, what you've done is tried to do what you decided to do, and it's outrageous, but it's okay that it's outrageous because you're attributing it to the work of the Holy Spirit. And I think that's where the danger comes in. All right. We got more time, huh? All right. Let's see what else we got. Report.

Cat feud ended with stabbing. It had started out as a cat fight. After Tracy DeMasi had asked to use the man's bathroom in his Newport Ritchie house, she walked inside and tossed the man's cat out of the window. Then DeMasi, 39, reportedly stabbed him in his shoulder and lower back. DeMasi claimed the man had thrown her onto the floor, but could not explain how the man had stabbed wounds, the report states. So, premise. Random woman does not know this man. No relation, no friendship, nothing. Knocks on the door in his house in Newport Ritchie.

Asks to use the bathroom. He graciously agrees. She walks inside, grabs the man's cat. And throws it out of the window. And then, stabs him in the shoulder and the lower back. So, obviously, he's walking away from her or something. He does not see her with the knife. Right. I don't know, man. That's some crazy behavior. I mean, that's whacked out crazy behavior.

I might call it the sign of the end times. People just randomly showing up and chucking animals out the window. And who stabs a guy in the shoulder and lower back? It's a weird place to stab somebody. Is she in a rabid frenzy, maybe? Maybe something. Maybe. Is she a zombie? Was she a zombie? Well, she looks a little like a zombie. She's wearing a hoodie with a pink heart on it.

It says pink in it, in case you're colorblind. Huh. I don't know. What are your thoughts? I think she's just crazy. I think she's just crazy. Not sign of the end times. Not sign of the end times. No trumpet calls. No scrolls. I think if there's going to be some signs of the end of the universe, I don't think some

lady throwing a cat out the window and then stabbing a man twice is going to be something so grand as to be a coming sign of the end of days. I think that's much bigger. Oh, yeah. I mean, you read stories like that in the Bible back in the Old Testament. You know, a king dude sitting on the pot, going to the bathroom, getting stabbed. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. There was no cat involved that I know of. Sitting in the cave, anyway. There was a restroom and a knife.

Okay, so I got a little bit more. Here's some more detail. After Demasi walked inside the house, she picked up the man's cat and tossed it out the window. At that point, she and the man got into an argument over the cat being thrown out. I would imagine. Later, Demasi would tell deputies that the man threw her to the kitchen floor and stepped on her neck. When the man left the kitchen, so that's what he did. He just threw her down, stepped on the neck, and then left. She got up, grabbed a steak knife, and followed him into a spare bedroom.

She stabbed him in the upper chest, the report states. They grappled for the knife, and he took it from her. The man was on the phone when Demasi came from behind. She then stabbed him in the upper right shoulder, the report states, and in the lower left of his back, just above his waistline. Seriously, it's a weird place to stab somebody. I've never stabbed anybody. I feel like that's an odd place. The sheriff's report does not say if she used a different knife. I was not wondering that. At that point, the man ran outside the house and waited for deputies to arrive.

Demasi told deputies the man had also grabbed her hair, kicked, punched, and choked her, but she could not explain how the victim had stab wounds. I don't know, officer. Yeah. Yeah. So she throws the cat out. He gets mad. Throws her down on his floor. Walks away. She gets mad. Comes after him.

He turns around. She gets him in the chest. Gets the knife away from her. Goes to call the police. She gets another knife, I'm going to guess, and stabs him in the back while he's on the phone. I don't know why you would turn your back to a crazy wild woman in the first place. I feel like I would not do that. Maybe the fact that he turned his back shows that we're getting close to the end. And yeah, when he had enough trust for this woman who had just stabbed him and thrown his cat out the window, seemingly unprovoked.

All right. I'm calling this the side of the end times. I'm sorry. I mean, I'm excited, but I'm just saying. I think it's the second birth pain. Yeah. Okay. With a little bit more information into it, I think I'll agree with you, gentlemen. Okay. Here we go. Another confession went down the drain.

Patrick Lynn Townsend, 30, allegedly saluted the detective, a detective, and told him to tighten up on your job, homie, after he flushed a digital recorder containing his confession down a toilet in the sheriff's substation. What? No, hold on a second. The Lakeland man was facing drug charges after a deputy reportedly found some meth in his boxers during a traffic stop for not wearing a seatbelt. That's a pretty big stretch, right? Hey, you weren't wearing a seatbelt. By the way, can I see inside your eyes? Townsend fessed up to his actions and told deputies that he had learned something that

day, stating, I will never incriminate myself again. Okay. There's a couple of things that stick out for me here. First of all, why would you record a guy's confession and then leave the tape in while you go do something else? And then the guy's saying, tighten up on your job, homie. That's kind of funny. That's kind of funny if you came in and the guy flushed his confession down the john. And then the guy searched his boxers. Are you getting that he admitted to it and that's why he checked? He must have given him some reason to believe he should be checking his boxers.

Yeah. I can't imagine that's the first jump that you make. It's just like, hey, you're not wearing your seatbelt. You know, you're not wearing your seatbelt. I bet you have meth in your boxers. Yeah. That's like, hey, officer. Why did you pull me over? There has to be B, C, D, E. I bet you he resisted for rest, then he had a pat down, then there was something in there. Or maybe he was showing signs of being on the drug.

That's true, too. Yeah. And I mean, obviously, a regular pat down didn't work, so I can see that jump. Yeah. But just some random fella sitting there, no seatbelt on, immediately jump and do hey. Yeah. Sorry, officer. No, that's true. I didn't have a seatbelt on. And also, I've got some Pomeranian punch in my pants. Why don't you take a check?

Okay, that's out. That's not a sign of the end times. That guy's just dumb. That's just stupid all around. Here we go. Last one. Warning, never ride a manatee. This woman got caught hitching a ride on a manatee. Now she gets to hitch another ride in a patrol car to the Slammer. Deputies arrested Ana Gloria Garcia Gutierrez, 53, in a Sears in St. Petersburg, her place of employment, on Saturday.

Garcia Gutierrez admitted to touching and riding a manatee at Fort DeSoto Park in late September. Deputies had received reports of a woman, later identified as Garcia Gutierrez, who had been seen touching and riding a manatee. She turned herself into deputies in October, claiming she was new to the area and didn't realize it was against the law to touch or harass manatees, the release said. The charge, violation of the Florida Manatee Sanctuary Act, a second-degree misdemeanor. No, that is just plain awesome. This lady, a 53-year-old woman, rode a manatee. I think we need to stick on that subject, regardless if it was illegal or not. There was a 53-year-old woman that had just moved to the area and decided, hey, I'm going to ride a manatee.

What makes you say, there's an elephant-sized seal I'll jump on and ride? Yeah. That thing looks gigantic. I'm going to see if it'll let me have a piggyback ride. That's awesome. It didn't eat her. So you're saying… No, they're herbivores. …drop the charges. I don't know. Throw her a party.

Yeah. Drop the charges. Tell her she's awesome. And then buy her skydiving. Okay. All right. Well, there you go. It's easy to… You know, I was in a… What do you call it? The underwater-looking thing.

Not scuba diving, but the… Aquarium? Well, you're swimming out in the ocean and looking. You have your little stuff on. Snorkeling? Snorkeling. Thank you. You're welcome. I was doing that, and we're swimming around. It's a big word. I can't remember.

Snorkeling. And I look up, and I almost ran into one of those big honking turtles that are also illegal to touch or be near because they're, like, endangered or whatever, and we almost ran into each other. Did you know that it was illegal to touch that? Yes. They even told us, now, don't touch the turtles. Because I would totally just be like, ooh, and just reach out and touch it. It was about as big as me. That's awesome. It was really awesome.

I don't know how you don't, like, reach out and grab that and ask for a ride, especially a manatee. If it was a manatee, I would have. All right. Wait, so if I remember the score correctly, no distinct signs of the, non-biblical signs of the apocalypse. There's some murmuring. Just some, okay. All right. All right. We're not going to get to this if we don't hurry up.

Here's what we're going to do. Gotcha. We've got to get to this quiz. Oh, I've got to see how much I love. I need to know how much I love. Yeah. Christianity quiz. Now, you have to agree that you are a Christian to even take this. Okay? I am a Christian. I will agree.

I said yes. Here we go. How often do you read your Bible and or have quiet time with the Lord? Rarely or no more than once a month. Once weekly or at least several times a month. Once daily or at least several times a week. Throughout the day, only missing occasionally. Rarely or no more than once a month. Once like A, B, C, D. Yeah. C.

Once daily or at least several times a week. Yeah. I'm going to go with like D because it's kind of cheating because it's like my job. Cheater. Okay. Well, we're going to go with C. When you talk to people with different opinions, do you A, listen and seek to understand them but work to convince them you are right. B, interrupt them frequently to tell them what you think or think less of them if they don't agree with you. C, act like you are listening.

While really thinking about what you will say when they finish talking. Or D, listen and seek to understand them because you love them. Convincing them is not as important as understanding them. I'm between A and C. I'm between A and D. Okay. A is the consistent one. Listen and seek to understand them but work to convince them you are right. Yeah. All right. We're going to go with A.

When times are tough and things aren't going your way in life, which of the following looks like you? A, I stress and worry a lot. B, I am mostly worry-free because I know God will take care of me. C, I stress and worry all the time. D, I worry a little but I hope that God will take care of me. I'm at B. Worthy free? Boy. Roy? I would say I'm closer to D at the point where I'm at.

You worry a little but hope God will take care of you. All right. We're going with D. This is going to reflect John Booba. I was going to say. Have you been transformed by your acceptance of Christ? Jesus Christ is your Savior. A, or how have you been transformed? A, I see the world through God's eyes and seek to do his will in all things. B, I don't feel, think, or act differently than most of the non-Christians I know. C, I occasionally think about God but mostly just do what I want.

D, I often consider what God wants in my life and try but struggle consistently to put those thoughts into action. D. D? Yep. Dan, are you, I see the world through God's eyes and seek to do his will in all things? Yeah. But that also implies a struggle. I seek to do God's will. I mean, I'm not perfect. But I think the longer you're in it, the more you do your will.

All right. Troy's in for D. Sticking with D. When you do something good for others, do you do it because A, you feel obligated, guilty, pushed into it? B, it makes you feel good? C, you love God and others and want to bring him glory? D, it will make you look better to others? C. All right, we're going to go with C. Who takes a quiz like this and doesn't see the correct answer and be like, oh yeah,

that's me. Either I'm a schmuck or I'm an okay guy. That's a pretty big gap. You wouldn't worship goats. Here we go. A murderer sentenced to death accepts Christ as his Lord and Savior the day before he's executed. This causes you A, comfort, believing he was forgiven. B, wonder and amazement that God is so full of mercy and love for his people. C, frustration since he's going to heaven just like you, but he didn't earn it. Or D, anger because murderers should not go to heaven.

I'd say B. Wonder and amazement that God is so full of mercy and love for his people. Or comfort, believing he was forgiven. I'm an A. You're the comfort, believing he was forgiven. I think it's cool. It's good for him. All right. You learn that a friend is cheating on their spouse. You A, express your disappointment but try to rationalize a friend's behavior. B, feel morally superior and secretly judge the friend.

C, express your disappointment and tell them what you would do. D, give biblical counsel and encouragement and pray for healing in their marriage. Oh, come on. D, because I have absolutely no idea what to do on my part. Express your disappointment. Feel morally superior and secretly judge the friend. That's me. I've never cheated on my wife. That means I'm way better. All right. Here we go.

Shoot. We got to hurry. How often do you do things secretly or privately compared to when you are around others, other people? In other words, keeping things secret, things you would be ashamed of or embarrassed about if you were caught doing. A, daily or several times a week. B, weekly or several times a month. C, monthly or several times a year. Or D, rarely, less than once a year or never. Can you read the question again for me?

Sorry. How often do you do things secretly or privately compared to when you are around other people? Do what kind of things? Are there things that you keep secret and how often are you doing those things? Oh, okay. Things that you wouldn't do in front of everybody else. Yeah. I would do C. Monthly or several times a year? Yeah. Or weekly or several times a month?

I would do C. Dan, monthly or several times a year? Rarely? Never? Yeah, C to D. Depends on what it is. All right. Let's go with C. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

We're going with D. C, a good friend confides in you that they are a homosexual. Your response would be A, remain friends, share God's perspective on homosexuality and continue to love them. B, remain friends because there was nothing wrong with homosexuality. C, remain friends even though you silently believe homosexuality is a sin. Or D, tell them you can't be friends with a homosexual sinner. A was remain friends, share God's perspective on homosexuality and continue to love them. I would go A. I'd be A. Let's hope everyone's on A. When someone recklessly cuts you off in traffic, do you A, say or gesture angrily at the other driver?

John Buva. B, not get angry but think what could have happened to you and your passengers. C, thank God you weren't hurt and pray for the safety of other drivers. Or D, control your tongue temper but think angry thoughts. I know as a matter of fact I'm sick. Thank God you weren't hurt and pray for the safety of the other drivers. I'll try and do that as much as I can honestly. Okay, thanks for taking the Christianity quiz. Here we go. Troy, you are, your Christian face index is spiritually mature. Congratulations.

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