Live From The Path · Season 2020, Episode 22
Interview with Eddie Andrews
Topics covered
- Episode opening and guest introduction — Show open from the Pathway Studios with Ben absent and guest Eddie Andrews introduced. ≈ 0:00
- Social media algorithms and echo chambers — How engagement algorithms tune people into anxiety-feeding echo chambers and block real conversation. ≈ 1:11
- Listening as ministry and campaigning — Listening without agenda as the core skill of both ministry and political campaigning. ≈ 5:26
- Iowa House districts and state government — How Iowa House districts are drawn and apportioned, and the House/Senate structure. ≈ 8:15
- Mental health reform — Eddie Andrews' mental-health platform: beds, rapid-response units, de-escalation, and family resources. ≈ 12:43
- Humility about expertise — Knowing the limits of your expertise, framed by the car-wash-man and transmission analogy. ≈ 19:47
- Character and bipartisanship over party loyalty — Backing honest people and good ideas regardless of party, with cross-party endorsements and yard signs. ≈ 22:09
- Human dignity and the image of God — Political opponents bear God's image and inherent dignity, even amid anger and division. ≈ 34:10
- Discernment in conversation — Arguing the real issue two layers down instead of fighting six layers above it. ≈ 39:47
- Faith in public office — Whether talking politics or talking Jesus is harder, and refusing to divorce faith from public life. ≈ 42:51
- The cost of campaigning on a family — Opposition nastiness and public scrutiny falling on a candidate's spouse and family. ≈ 47:47
- Comic relief and running jokes — Comedy bits and banter, including the Cottonelle Purple legislative platform. ≈ 51:02
- Friendship boundaries and grandparenting — A Dear LFTP letter about a friend whose grandkids keep canceling their plans. ≈ 51:46
- Dating, commitment, and what men owe women — A Dear LFTP letter from a 22-year-old about a man who will not commit. ≈ 1:00:13
- Voting as civic duty — Get-out-the-vote close urging participation in local races. ≈ 1:10:47
Segments
- Show open: Ben is out, Eddie Andrews is in 0:00–1:09
A host opens the show from the Pathway Studios in Johnston and notes that Ben is absent tonight. He introduces guest Eddie Andrews, a candidate for the Iowa House, saying they will have a conversation about a range of current issues.
- Can we still have reasonable conversations through the algorithm? 1:11–5:24
Mike puts the opening question to Dan and Eddie: after watching a documentary on social media, he is troubled that algorithms tune each person into an anxiety-feeding echo chamber. He asks how anyone can combat that and still have reasonable conversations about the hard issues facing the world.
- Eddie's door-knocking rule: just listen 5:26–8:13
Eddie Andrews answers with his experience knocking on doors as a candidate: he just listens, and people who only heard the words 'conservative' or 'Republican candidate' unload for fifteen or twenty minutes. He says some then tell him they might vote for him simply because he listened without being rude. A host adds that ministry is the best on-the-job training for public office because it teaches listening and discerning the real problem.
- What an Iowa House district actually is 8:15–12:42
Eddie explains he is running for the Iowa House (he says District 30 in one breath and District 39 in another), covering Johnston, Grimes, Jefferson Township, Urbandale Precinct 4, and a few blocks of Granger. He walks through the civics: 100 House seats apportioned by population at roughly 32,000 people each, 50 state senators each covering two House districts, and redistricting after the census.
- Mental health reform: beds, de-escalation, and families 12:43–19:46
Eddie names mental health reform as the plank he most wants to lead among his seventeen. He sketches the family crisis scenario: a teenager in episode, an eight-week wait for a psychiatrist, no beds, full shelters, and parents driving to Cedar Rapids for a safe bed. His proposals include rapid-response mental health units for children trained in de-escalation and more training in schools. The hosts react from ministry experience, saying they often feel unequipped for the depth of what people bring them.
- The car-wash man and the transmission 19:47–22:07
A host offers an analogy for humility about expertise: people come to him with deep mental-illness struggles and he feels like a car-wash guy being asked to rebuild a transmission. Mike extends it: the car-wash man is capable of learning transmissions, but he should not give the commencement speech at Transmission University, since confident ignorance about mental health can do real damage.
- Leading the mental-health effort, with Democrats signing on 22:09–24:28
Eddie says mental health is not just a plank he supports but one he wants to lead, arguing it needs a leader who will name real solutions rather than bureaucratic ones. He notes that Democrats have joined his campaign because they believe he will fix this, and the hosts agree voters used to simply back good ideas and the people who would implement them.
- Do great things without caring who gets the credit 24:28–25:50
The conversation turns to the familiar line about accomplishing incredible things as long as you do not care who gets the credit. The hosts joke over whether it was Bon Jovi or Barney who said it, then agree the advice stands regardless of who said it: back the good idea no matter which party delivers it.
- Can the state level still get anything done? 25:50–27:14
Mike asks whether the battle still has to be fought at the state level, frustrated that Congress agreed on stimulus months ago with nothing to show. Eddie, not yet in office, says he still hears from Democrats and Republicans that they want independent representatives who say what they will and will not do, rather than taking orders from party leaders.
- Yard signs across party lines 27:16–34:09
Eddie gives examples of voters separating local from national politics: his yard sign standing next to Trump-Pence 2020 signs, next to a Biden 2020 sign, and next to a Jo Jorgensen sign. He recounts his first four endorsements coming from Democrats, including Bernie Sanders supporters who met him on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and a Democrats-for-Eddie-Andrews movement. The hosts land on character: they respect people who honestly say what they believe even when they disagree.
- Everyone you are mad at bears God's image 34:10–39:46
A host argues the division feels worse than ever, with people retreating into echo-chamber bubbles and forgetting that even their political enemies are made in the image and likeness of God with inherent dignity and worth. Another host tells of a Zimbabwean pastor friend living with his family who watched global riots in disbelief, unable to grasp the anger. They agree the anger runs beyond politics into COVID disruption and locked-down lives.
- Argue two layers down: the healthcare example 39:47–42:49
A host says most debates happen six layers above the real disagreement, using healthcare: everyone agrees people should have care, so the actual discussion is how to pay for it. Eddie adds that it is okay to listen to someone you disagree with, saying he is not intimidated by anybody and therefore not intimidated by good ideas. They agree approaching hard topics with humility and confidence beats trading barbed wire.
- Pastor or politician: which conversation is harder? 42:51–47:47
Asked whether talking politics or talking Jesus is harder after a lifetime of ministry conversations, Eddie tells of a voter who recognized him in a church parking lot by house and street and reminded him they had discussed favorite Bible verses at the door. He also recounts a political endorsement interview where he was asked for his testimony and spent forty-five minutes talking Scripture. He concludes a person of God does not divorce faith from any room they walk into.
- Campaigning is hard on a family 47:47–51:00
The hosts ask about the cost to Eddie's family: opposition politics is nasty, and his wife is already in the public eye and now fields questions about him. Eddie says a husband and father instinctively wants to protect his family while staying in the race. A host jokes that his own wife Cheryl would meet the idea with violence, and Eddie's team members sitting in late at night get a thank-you.
- The Cottonelle Purple platform 51:02–51:45
Asked what he would do as legislator for a day, a host declares his platform: upgrade the Capitol's cheap single-ply toilet paper. The bit escalates into a full endorsement of Cottonelle Purple, with a carve-out for the guys on septic, before they pivot to exchanging campaign signs with Eddie.
- Dear LFTP: the best girlfriend and the grandkids 51:46–1:00:11
Mike reads a Dear LFTP letter from a widowed woman whose best girlfriend keeps canceling their plans because her adult children drop the grandkids off at Nana's. The hosts advise her to have a direct, non-judgmental conversation, noting the friend may simply love seeing her grandkids and not feel imposed upon. They counsel humble expectations: no single friend can carry all of life's load, so keep inviting her to tea while building a wider circle. The Secular answer agrees but with more edge, saying to see her less often if last-minute changes continue.
- Dear LFTP: 22, dating, and he won't commit 1:00:13–1:10:47
Mike reads a Dear LFTP letter from a 22-year-old dating a man for six months who says she is special but refuses any relationship title, still mentions his ex, and will not say whether he sees a future. Mike's verdict is blunt: drop him, he is not date-worthy right now, since a man should spend his life adding to a woman rather than taking from her. The hosts discuss the standard God holds men to, with one noting Adam is the one God comes looking for. The Secular answer is more lenient, saying six months is early and to reconsider only if nothing changes in another six.
- Sign exchange and a get-out-the-vote close 1:10:47–1:12:42
Mike thanks Eddie Andrews and jokes about a Life From The Path endorsement being like a big bag of poop. They trade campaign signs, with Eddie proposing to stick a donation QR code on Mike's sign. Mike closes by urging listeners to vote in local races and quoting Ben's line: be faithful in the means, and God will handle the ends.
Bible references
- Genesis 1:26-27
the people that you're mad at, whether you realize it or not, are made in the image and likeness of God and have internal dignity and worth
- 2 Corinthians 5:20
we forget the worth that God has bestowed upon them as being his ambassadors to the creation he's made
- Genesis 3:9
when there's something going on within a relationship or within a marriage, God's gonna come looking for Adam
Key questions
- How do we combat algorithmic echo chambers and still have reasonable conversations about hard issues? (host-framed)
- Can real change still happen at the state level, or is the political process stuck? (host-framed)
- Is it easier or harder to talk politics than to talk about Jesus after a lifetime of ministry? (host-framed)
- How can I talk to my friend about our time being important too? (dear-lftp)
- Should I move on or wait and see what the future holds? (dear-lftp)
People
- Guest: Eddie Andrews
guest; candidate for the Iowa House
- Eddie Andrews
- Mike
- Dan Hudson
- Ben
- Betty
- Cheryl
- Lori
- Donald Trump
- Mike Pence
- Joe Biden
- Jo Jorgensen
- Bernie Sanders
- Martin Luther King Jr.
- Bon Jovi
- Jeff Bezos
- Elon Musk
- Adam
Full transcript
Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. You are live from the past. I do this. Superhero. I superhero.
Superhero. I am am superhero. Am am So to replace Ben, we brought in people smarter than us as well. So Eddie Andrews is in, he's gonna We're gonna have a conversation with him about
plethora of things, and they're all gonna be happy and joyful, I've been guaranteed. So we're definitely gonna fire that up. So Dan, I I do have a question for you. Yeah. Actually, both of you guys. Yeah. So I was watching this documentary, and it had to do with social media. And I realized that I've been struggling a lot with my kids. Actually, my daughter makes fun of me the most, is no matter what I say happen, I'm like, hey, the peach tree lost a limb or whatever, and she goes, well, if you kids wouldn't have been on your dang phones, maybe that peach tree would still be here. And I'm like, that's me in it, you're making fun of me, right? Yeah, because I say this all the time, you know? I'm like a broken record with the technology. And and and so I was watching this documentary and it's about social media and and algorithms and whatever, and it feeds into a lot of the situations that I think that we're running into, even with the with with the presence of actual valid problems,
like actual valid justice, actual valid rights and wrongs, all those things existing, behind the scenes is a is a is an algorithm and a news feed and a programming at a media outlet that that basically feeds into whatever your anxiety is. Right? And so like, they the whole, like most of the social media platforms, like, know exactly how long you stop at each photo, and catalog it, right? And then they just start spinning it into algorithms that basically say, what will keep this person on our platform longer?
Well, stuff that they like, or stuff that will peak their interest, And so, like, the more that you do that, the more it feeds into your own anxiety or your own view of the world. Right? Yeah. And then we end up with what we have now. Right? Where where where a a I don't wanna say an AI, but I wanna say like a like an intentional psychological algorithm has tuned you to a point where now it's causing actual
humanity issues, right? Where we're not willing to even listen to somebody if they weren't if they don't come exactly from where I come from. And so all that being said is and maybe it's a it's a bloated question, right? But I started thinking about it today and I didn't quite know how to answer it, is like, how do we combat that? We can't even have reasonable discussions on the things that that Eddie wants to talk about. Right? The things that that that our world is battling with and humanity is battling with, we can't even get to the point of having an actual conversation. So so you're saying that that we will they will that that the forces that be are putting opposing views to us or or No. No. Like views? Like views. Right. Yeah. And and and so so don't hear me wrong. I'm not saying that, like, these companies have a sinister mustache, right, and they're like, I want you to think one way or I want you to think the other. What they're saying is is I want you to think your way and stay on my platform. And so It becomes like an echo chamber. Correct. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting. I've heard this too where
certain news people, even people within the media, will have never heard of a story that every conservative will have heard about for six months. Sure. And it's because Yeah. And they're like, what what? Yeah. What did what did you find? What? You made that up. Yeah. Yeah. I I this is news. Yeah. And we've heard about it for eight months or six months. Sure. Because there is an echo chamber that that as you described, it permits people to hear exactly what they wanna hear and almost nothing else. Correct. And so you actually have to be intentional to listen to the other side. Yes. Yeah. Well, and maybe that's my question is is is like broadside Sight's plural. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Is is is we're we're looking at how to how to even have conversations with folks that like I'm I'm not immune to this. Right? Like the same algorithm that's that's convinced a guy to, whatever, take down a sandwich shop because he thinks that there's a trafficking ring in there, you know, I I get I get the same echo chamber
as well. Right? I'm in the same algorithm, I'm getting the same output, the things that I stop and look at for point two seconds longer, they know that. Right? And so the things that spin me up and I get put into the same bowl. And so, like, when we're talking about some of the things that, you know, that that Eddie will be addressing, you know, how do we how do we begin to have that conversation with people that you know are in the same echo chamber? Right? Like, have to battle through all this other stuff and there has to be some way to to have that conversation and have it well. So I don't know if that's just an open ended question or if you're just talking, but what I try to do as I'm knocking on doors and talking with people sharing my ideas and listening to their ideas, I just listen. And as you guys know in ministry,
we get that all the time, right? So as a pastor, we have a built in desire just to hear people. Sure. Right? And so I may have an advantage there. Well, true. And I gotta tell you, some people just want to be heard. And so I literally have been at a door or two or three or four where I I just opened the door. Hi. My name is Eddie Andrews. And
they just started unloading. They've not heard a single word that I've that I've said. They've heard the word conservative or they've heard the word republican candidate. Yeah. And they're just on. Yeah. Oh, you're one of their They're off to the races. Yeah. And I just sit there and listen. And they get when they take a breath, I might say, well, have you thought about x y z? Or thank you for sharing that. Yeah. And sometimes,
fifteen minutes later or sixteen minutes later or twenty minutes later, they say, I think I might vote for you because you've listened to me. Yeah. Yeah. And you've heard me and you weren't rude and you weren't, you know, you've given some empathy chance to get it out? Yeah. Mean, do you think it's just lot of pent up? No one's listening to me. Mhmm. You know? And like they just need a chance to get there, to feel like they're Dude, being and in government, you know, there's a reason why people in government were called ministers because
you can actually help people, duh, in government That's if you do it a travesty. That's why I was thinking as you were talking that that that ministry truly is the best on the job training for running for some type of public office because that's where you listen a lot, you you you direct, redirect. I've said that Yeah. For many times. It's like you listen, you hear problems and then you discern what the real problem is. Which isn't always the case when That's you're really a great word.
Then you actually provide some sort of relevant solution. Boom. Are you happy? Are you happy? Who needs to be at the table? What resources do we need? Alright? Everybody good? You good? You good? Boom. Problem solved. Just like that. And,
yeah, let's do that. Yeah. Let's all go for Eddie Andrews, November 3. Boom. Alright. So so you're you're you're running for office in Iowa. Yes, sir. What are you running for? I mean, office? Which office? There's lots of offices. I'm running for the Iowa House. Okay. So that's District 30 So so we're looking for like, how do I look for this guy? What are you running? Position? Yeah. Iowa House. You know, we're sitting here late at night, 09:00PM, and I just wanted to sound a little bit silly, but I know people are listening. I just was gonna say, I'm running for president of the world. Yeah. Well, I mean that's next, Yeah. Start voting. We gotta get this voting. Okay. For all the non serious people or for all the serious people, I was just joking, just thought I'd throw that out there.
But I don't see president of the world. That guy's a liar. Be a great name tag. Iowa House District thirty nine. So what that means in English is Johnston, all of Johnston, Grimes, all of Grimes, Jefferson Township, which Jefferson, that's like north, right? mean, that's like way up. So some people that's one of the questions I get every day. Now, who where where's exactly Jefferson Township? So that's pretty much the unincorporated portions of what would be Johnston. Yeah. Oh, okay. And then,
Urbandale Precinct 4. Again, a very popular question. Where's Precinct 4? So that's pretty much Sitting next to 3. Good answer. I mean That's from 86th Street and the interstate all the way to just north of the school, one block north of Urbandale High School, so 72nd area.
So do you feel like like most people, because this is gonna reveal me in the question, right? Do you feel like most people have a grasp on how local governments or state governments are set up and what position you're filling here, right? So when we talk about the state being put into districts and whatever, and and and and it goes to a house and senate and all this stuff, like, you think people have a fairly good grasp of how all that works or or how many people are even there? I don't even know how many people are in the house. How many people are in the house? It's a mixed bag. So there are a 100 seats. Okay. So if you Is that based on counties?
Well, it's based upon the population. So Gotcha. If you have if Iowa has roughly three last census, forgive me if I'm incorrect on the actual numbers, but let's just say 3,200,000. Okay. Divide that by a 100, you get roughly 32,000 people in a district. Gotcha. Right? And so this census
is important because they will reassess the sizes and the makeup of the district so that every house district will have the same number of people in it. I gotcha. Yeah. I gotcha. And then each senate, state senate seat will is composed of two house seats. So there's 50 senators, state senators and 100
house seats. Do you feel like I should be embarrassed for not knowing this better? No. No, it's a mixed bag. No, no. Yes. It's a mixed bag. You tell us what you really think. Are lot of people who do, who know all of this. But I have campaigned in part because I think on the belief that you should know your representative. Sure. You should know your representative and tell and be able to tell me two or three things positive that they've done in the last two two years. Yeah. And if they don't,
vote for Eddie Andrews. Right? Why not? Right. Like, seriously. And so it's not just a statement. It's not just a philosophical statement. But I literally am knocking on every last one of the doors. I'll put that in asterisk because there's a few people that, not gonna knock on their door. Right. The ones that say, don't show up here, Eddie. I notice you don't drive by my house. But for the most part, I'm knocking on every single door and I think it's important that people
show up. I think it's important for people who want people to vote for them to show up, be there, ask So as a member of the House, like what are the What level of changes are you there to affect? Right? Like education programs or overall I I mean, I guess I guess it all gets lost in a big government shuffle that I don't maybe I don't quite understand. So like, what what level of things are are you looking to affect change to? Oh, man. There's a list There's really in so many. I have 17 planks.
I won't go over all 17 tonight. You don't wanna bore your audience. Sure. But one of the things that I talk about the most is mental health reform. Sure. Wow. That's a tough that's tough. You know I mean, yeah. It is tough but somebody's gotta do it. Yeah. And I boy, not only speaking with other people, other families, but our family has been affected by mental health
as well. And without getting into all the specifics and so on and so forth, parents, families are not prepared for this when it happens. Mean It is an overwhelming thing. I mean, just being in ministry, you know, you run across people that that are having serious issues and they want help and and you wanna help them. But I'm like, that is so above my pay grade. I mean, there's people I just I don't know how to help. There's just stuff going on. Has it become more of an issue or has it be be just being brought to light more? Right? Like, was it always an issue and we just didn't know what to call or they didn't recognize it or or or give it its own opportunity to to to be delved into delved into.
Or is is it becoming more more of a problem? Like, of a concern in society? I don't know the answer to that. But I do know it is a problem now. Boy, gotta tell you, it's on every level, changes need to be made. Let me just give you one scenario. Let's just say, hypothetically,
you wake up one day, your 14 year old who was pretty cool for fourteen years, all of a sudden is like, wow, what's going on with that guy? Mhmm. And it's like, dude, are you listening? And then you just realize, oh, he's not being a knucklehead right now, he's got something going on. And, you know, and it takes you a little while to to to really realize that because you didn't know if he just had a bad day or if he, you know, whatever. Yeah. And now you know he's exhibiting
an episode right now. And, okay, well let's call a psychiatrist. Okay. Good. We can get you in in eight weeks. Yeah. That is How about that? Yeah. Weeks need some medicine that'll take six weeks to start working. Yeah. Right? Exactly. And or let's just say you you do a shortcut. You're a parent. You can do a mandatory seventy
two hour three day hold Yeah. Either one of the local hospital chains. And boom. He's there. He's not well. And they they wanna send him home. But maybe he's exhibiting a violent stage right at that point. And, well, you you can't bring him home right now because he's he's not it's not safe for the rest of the family to be there and that's as a dad or as a mom, it's your job to to to maintain
call right there, you know? Right. Man. So what do you do? Yeah. Well, let's look at beds. Well, there's no beds. Otherwise, he wouldn't be here. Right. K. How about shelters? Well, they're always full. Yes. Shelter's always full. Buchanan shelter's mostly full. Ames. I know people who've had to drive their kid to Cedar Rapids for a few nights just
because they needed a bed for safety of their own family member while things were waiting to open up. And so, just from that standpoint alone, changes need to be made. Let's just say there's another scenario where maybe somebody's exhibiting a dangerous episode
and now law enforcement has to be called. Well, one of the changes that I proposed is Rapid Response Mental Health Units for children. So now these people who are trained in more de escalation when it's involving a mental health issue. Yeah.
If you think about nationally, half of all police shootings involve a mental health case. I was just going to ask something similar Yeah. To And yes, you want to bring order but it's your kid so you're like hey, hey, hey. Now he's just not himself. It's our kid, so don't, you know, just can you de escalate it rather than just try to get order and then as if it were just a thief or somebody just trying to rob your house or something. Yeah. So those kinds of changes, we we like to implement more training on,
you know, also in schools and and just there's so many elements just to that piece. So you're talking more more beds and more trained professionals? Oh, Is that what I'm hearing? And training. And training. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And resources for families. Right? Like, I've been this is you know, plenty of folks have gone through this and and and not to say that I have not. Right? But, like, you get to a point where you're like, I just flat out don't know what to do. I'm not walking away, I'm not bailing here, I'm in for the long haul. I don't even know what the long haul looks like, right? And so I just need somebody to help me, just to
get me guided in the right place and sometimes we're gonna cross a line that I'm not equipped to handle and that's exactly what you're talking about. That's and and actually, I kinda love what you said, like, when you talk about de escalating some of those situations, right? That's looking at at other people like you would look at your family members, right? Like like, Lori, you're like, look, I know this guy. He's he's a little off the edge right now, but I'm not looking for punitive and punishment. I'm looking for let's get it back down to where we can handle it and help. It's your kid. It's your kid, right? And if you look at everybody's kid that way, then now we got a whole family going here, right? Like we have a community going, which is what we're trying to have in the first place. Yeah, I'm glad you said that. And it reminds me of at the Polk County GOP convention, which was like the last thing that happened before they shut Everybody everything was licking the windows and all of a sudden that's it. Yeah. So at the Polk County GOP convention, I gave a little talk and one of the ladies there was came up to me afterwards and she still had tears in her eyes and she told me, she says Eddie, I'm so glad you talked about mental health. That's my number one issue.
And then she said what happens in many cases and she says, but four months ago, I wasn't even in my top 10. And that's how mental health affects us, you know. It's it's it's we kind of instinctively know it's a problem
but it's somebody else's problem and then all of a sudden it happened to your nephew or to your niece, grandchild, brother, sister, cousin and then all of a sudden, wow. It you you it's it's involving your entire family and you're just like, well, what do we do? What do we do? What do Yeah. We because the goal is to help improve their situation, not just stop that incident, you know, and then Exactly. Walk away. You there's you want to do some long term help. And that's what say. I I don't I I'm I can hear all kinds of ideas of how to fix this and I it's above me. I don't know. I'm like, people come to me with with, like, deep stuff of mental illness and it's like they need a new transmission and I'm the car wash guy and I'm going,
can clean your car for like, the windshield looks great, I just don't know what else to say. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not that guy, you know. So I can't even tell you what's a good idea or a bad think that's the thing though, we've talked about this on the show here recently quite a bit, is like approaching some things with humility, right? If you know you're the car wash guy, stay out of the transmission business. You know what I'm saying? That's happened a lot. And once again, if we look at that, even touching on the stuff we were talking about earlier where people are all spun up The social media Everybody's an expert on everything. Everybody's got to say, it's like, know the way this works. They're doing this. You you don't actually know any of that. It's quiet, will you? Stay in your lane. I mean, just humble yourself and go. Wait. Wait. Wait. So are you telling Pete are you the car wash guy to stay in the car wash lane and not eventually bro, are we not in America? Listen, we're in of opportunity. See what you're doing. You're what's setting known as a trap.
I like the car wash. So here's the thing. The car wash man is more than capable of learning about transmissions and helping with transmissions. But for him to do the commencement speech at Transmission University while he's the car wash man, that's not gonna work. Because that takes a lot of because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah. There could be more damage done on people flying in. In fact, I've had this conversation about mental health exactly with a couple of fellas here recently, right, where they're Well, like, I was going through a situation, I was talking to them about it, and here they piping off. He's like, here's what you're gonna do, Bobbie Bobbie. I'm like, you've never had anyone with this issue anywhere near you, have you? No, but it's pretty straightforward, a bibbidi bobby bobby. Take them off their meds and make them play harder. Yeah. I mean, what they need is discipline. What's wrong? Shut you know, be quiet, will you? That's the car wash guy in the transmission lane. Right? Okay. Alright. Is that a better analogy? Alright. Or you still hate it? We'll work out. We'll talk later.
The land of opportunity to not be the car wash man. That's what we're talking about. Oh my my my my. Point taken that we do need professionals and we do need people who have their arms wrapped around this. That's one reason why I wanna lead this. Now, I have lots of things, like I told you, I've got 17 planks
and But this is not just one I want to work with or get done, this is one of the ones that I want to lead. And I think you you really do need somebody leading this effort to say, you know what? What would be nice is x y z. Because when I talk to people and when we've gone through certain aspects of this,
you know, some of the solutions presented sound like bureaucracy. I can't say that word today. A government. Hear what you're saying. Well, well
But you you want real solutions that help families and not just say, hey, let's add more, you know, thousand dollars to this program or thousand Right. Dollars to When whitewash the problem cash and be like, this will solve it. Yeah. Yeah. I totally understand. That's very cool. And actually, mean, yeah, I think a lot of people could get behind that and would actually like to see some real movement here. Yeah. Right? And you have to have a little bit of caring about it to push the movement. So that's cool. Yeah. And I will say this too, I've had a number well,
let me just preface this by saying, as you guys already know, as a minister, you operate outside of politics, right? Right. And to some extent. Whoever's at the table and they need your help, that's who you're helping. Right? You don't check boxes
politically. And I will say this though, a lot of democrats have launched onto our campaign because they know I'm gonna fix this.
Or certainly, they have faith that I will. Yeah. And that's what I certainly intend to do. It's so we're getting lots of support on some of these ideas. That's because they're good ideas. Right? That's what we used to do as a country. Right? We find good ideas and people that are going to implement them and then vote for that guy. Yeah. And sense, in it doesn't matter. You know, who was that that said, oh boy, I can't think of the guy's name right Was it Bon Jovi? Pretty sure it was It could have been in his song. Alright. Pretty sure it was not. Alright. Not Bon Jovi then. It was like you can do incredible things
as long as you don't care who gets the credit. I think that was Barney. Yeah. Pretty sure Barney may have had a corollary of that. Second theorem. Yeah. I love you. I feel like we're a happy A purple corollary. No, that is a familiar quote.
It wasn't like a president? Anyway, we can I'm sure lots of people actually I share mean, once again though, like solid advice. Right? Solid advice that that understand to follow. Right? Like in, it doesn't really matter who said it. I can get behind it because it's a good idea. Yeah. It's don't know. Was it a Democrat or Republican? If a Republican said that and got this done, let's give them credit. If a Democrat got it done, let's give them credit. Right. It's all about people. It's the people business. It's And helping people I suppose that's the thing is like in the realm of politics, think people are having a really hard time here lately feeling like they're being forced in a cage on either in either direction. And
as of right now, our political process doesn't look like it's getting a whole lot done either way. Right? Like it it just ends up being I mean, we agreed on this stimulus. Right? We agreed on it three months ago. We got nothing. And so, you know, regular fellow like old Mike sitting here going, well, I mean, if I show up to work and don't do anything for like three months, they just fire me and then that's it. I get moved on. Right? And then Mhmm. We're not we're not getting anything done. So is that a realistic and an honest battle that still has to be fought at the state level? Or like, do we feel like we can affect change in a much broader way
because it's not? You know what I'm saying? So let me just say that, a, I'm not in office yet. Got it. Okay? I think you're gonna be. We're good to go. Gonna act like it happened. You're the transmission man. We're calling it, man. With a lot of hard work and a lot of people helping me, I believe But we'll get I think it does happen still on a on a state level. I still hear that from Democrats and Republicans.
They don't want somebody to say, you know, this is what my leader says, so therefore I must do that. I think they do want people to say, you know what? I like this but I don't like this. And just be independent and actually represent. Represent. Right? Yeah.
And, you know, be honest. Tell people what you are going to do and what you are not going to do and then let them decide. So I can tell you that on the other hand, I think people are, or at least a lot of people are smart enough to separate that. Yeah. We
have we do have people who won't let you get past the first question and that is the leader of either party. Right. Do you support x or do you support y? Well, miss,
ma'am, sir, this is the local race and we're working on but I don't know. But most and most of the time that that that kinda works and you just start talking about local issues. Yeah. But there are some people that won't let you get past that and you'll just say, you know what, that's we're not fixing DC, at least not in this job That's good point. We're working on issues. But I think, I'll give you one example of why I think people are separating national from local.
I went to a block and it had an Eddie Andrews sign alongside alongside a Donald Trump Pence Yeah. 2020 sign.
A little ways down the road, a Joe Biden. No. I'm it was a Biden 2020 sign and an Eddie Andrews sign in the same yard. Yeah. About three blocks later, there was a Joe Jorgensen
sign and an Eddie Andrews sign in the same yard. And at some point, you're just like, I don't even understand this. This just goes right along with with COVID and everything else with 2020. Like I don't want anything in our world. We've seen yeah. I've seen one guy who called and says, hey, I want you to put your sign up. Do you mind if
my Democrat friend is on the other sign. I'm putting two yards in two yard signs. Do you mind? I'm like, do I mind if my sign is up? Of course not. No. Right? Right. This is fun. But it has left a few people scratching.
Went to a door today and they says, well Eddie, I couldn't figure out if you're a Republican or Democrat. I'm like, I'm a Republican. But my first four endorsements were for Democrats. Yeah. And as of last week, yes, we have now a Democrats for Eddie Andrews
movement going on in Johnson And Grimes and it's just kinds of excitement going on. I think it is in part just like they said, well, the first endorsement, I'm like, I announce on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, which seems like about a hundred years from now, right? Right. Right. Forget the fact that we
couldn't door knock for five months, right? Right. So on that day, I got a call that says, hey Eddie, we want to be the first people to endorse you. Is that okay? And I'm like, I've never done this before. I'm pretty sure that's okay to That's endorse
We'll take it. Right. And then so you start looking at their site and they've got all kinds of remember, this is caucus time, right? So it's like a week before caucus. And they've got all kinds of Bernie stuff on their site. I've just I called them back. I've said, you know, I'm just double checking that you you got the right Eddie Andrews. You didn't call the wrong Eddie Andrews. And Oh yeah yeah, absolutely. So I I I'm like, what speaks to you from your Bernie side to Eddie Andrews who's running as a conservative? Good question.
You know, faith forward constitutional loving Yeah. Flag waving kind of guy, right? So they they said, well, one thing about Bernie, love him or hate him, he's been consistent for forty years. Right? And I said, and and and what I see about you, Eddie, is if you say it, you believe it. If you believe it, you'll generally say it. And I said, I'll take that as a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See what you're going there. We may have different policies but Still. At least they they see at least something in me that that
that I'm gonna say what I believe. That's just interesting though. Mean, that that's like I don't really care what you believe as long as as long as you're actually gonna do what you say. Because yeah, those are two completely different worlds. Now, most of them are not that extreme. Yeah. But it's generally in three categories, right? It's either that or they've seen my work, you know, they've seen we started Mentoramix, we did all these things, the Spanish group or
just community projects I've been involved in or criminal justice or something that they've seen. And yeah. I like that. Yeah. That's cool. It speaks to character. Well, that's exactly what it speaks to. It speaks to character, right? Where you can look at a guy and go, look, man, I got I've met multiple people, right, where, like, they think exactly the opposite of what I think. But I respect them because I think they're honest about it. Right? And they don't plan on it. They're not out there just trying to get people to follow them blindly. They're like, here's what I believe. I will run this thing till the end of the road. I'm like, man, I wholeheartedly disagree with you, but I think you're honest I appreciate I appreciate that too. And I'm actually kind of humbled by that. And I had a person,
boy, who who told me that in a very And this is a person I know. This this particular person is The other people I didn't know, these are people that I had met. But this next example is a person who I've known and they, again, are not the same as I am politically. Mhmm. But they said, Eddie, I know that everything I've seen you do has been out of love and respect and always try to to be the right decision no matter who is pushing you, no matter who is is pulling you, it's all about ultimately helping people. You know, what is the best solution?
Boom. That's it. Yeah. You wonder how how would all the elections be different if you took out, you know, the media and the commentators whose whole job is to, know, stir everybody up and and just light fires in our yards so we could hate each other, you you know. And and Light fires? Well, I don't know. Mean Boy, CNN is really burning the cash now. You don't wanna pay the guy to light fires. We're just done with this. Not literal fires. I don't know. It depends. I mean, people people, they just hate each other Well when it comes closer to election time. It's just like, come on. We're we're, you know And we're we used to love each other. I I think a lot of that feeds into look at me. Here's my daughter right now. If you guys get off that dang phone. Right? But like, I think, once again, it feeds into this dystopian
thought where you get to exist in your own echo chamber, your own bubble, and then when you go outside, you're offended by everything that's not in your bubble. And like, even the thing that you carry most in common is that the people that you're mad at, whether you realize it or not, are made in the image and likeness of God and have internal dignity and worth. Right? And then you wanna cast all that aside, Christians, you're just as guilty. You gotta mirror yourself here, right? You're just as guilty of walking out the door and going, I hear what God's saying about these guys and all, but like, I don't like them, I don't like what they believe, and they don't believe what I believe, and I'm I'm just gonna be mad at them and push them off to the side. And like, it's it it feels like it, whether it's true or not, it feels like it's gotten worse. It just feels like it's gotten worse. Like humanity itself has decided they're gonna move into factions and then fight with each other. Now, it could be just a massive perception problem. It could actually not be worse. We're just being convinced it's worse. But, like, at the end of the day, sometimes we just we forget who we are. We you know? And we forget who other people are and we forget the worth that God has has bestowed upon them as being his ambassadors to the creation he's made. And whether you like the guy or not, God said ambassador. God said dignity and worth. And so, like, sometimes we get a little bit too high on the on whatever horse we walked into and forget that, like, God says, these are the things that are true of all my children. Just be careful, Mike. Just be careful what bat you bring out that day, you know? And so I don't know whether it's just been hitting me a little bit harder this week that it feels it just feels like the chasm has gotten wider. That's all. Offering plate. Yeah. Is there one? Is there one? The doors of the church are open. You
know, I had this summer our good friend from Zimbabwe who's a pastor there living at our home and he was our intern here. I grew up in the the orphanage there. We asked where we met him. We go to Zimbabwe every year. And all this stuff started spreading, the riots and there there was legitimate protest that then, you know, after hours, different people came in and there were, like, riots and and fires and literal fires and and all this stuff. And and it was, like, global, you know. It wasn't just America. Because he had family members in The UK, you know, saying that he they wanted to go into to Zimbabwe and and knock down statues there and dig up white missionary bones and throw them in the river because they brought Jesus. You know, they messed up our culture and and and and and the whole time, he's just looking at going, what what's wrong with you people? That's right. What is happening? What what I mean, with everybody. Yeah. Every everybody's angry. He's like
because some of these were Christian people even, you know. And and he's just going, just stop this. Stop this. He just didn't he couldn't grasp what was going on. I'm trying to explain some historical context of what, you know, what do I know. It was just, yeah, an interesting summer. There's so much anger out there which is beyond it's beyond politics. People are mad at COVID. They're mad at being locked up. They're they're mad at at Well their life's been disrupted, you know? It's a
And the thing is, to echo some of those comments, you we do share one big blue ball that, you know, was was created for us. Mhmm. And, you know, we can't move off of it yet. I know with all these due respect to due respect to Bezos and Yeah. Elon Musk. Yeah. He can try it first. That's right. Of the eight planets left, you know, sorry to Pluto.
Yeah, bro. Wouldn't you think God would be a little angry? He's like, I included Pluto in the list. I don't know you what guys are doing. That was definitely a planet. This is the good one, right? So this is the good one. Get a better telescoping. So we do have to manage to live together and try to work. We're not going to sing Kumbaya right now but there does have to be some sort of acknowledging that, you know, we do have to work together on some things. Mhmm. Mhmm. You know, not everything but Well, and to sit down and have a legitimate conversation goes a long way. It's just like I'm just a human to human.
Hey, here's how I see it. How how am I off? You know? Well, here's how I see it. Yeah. Oh, I hadn't thought of it that way, you know? I I think what I'm in my in my head, what I'm hoping is is like if the Lord tarries, then people will just get tired of this. Right? Because at the end of the day, like, it all seems like it's anger and fire and, like, to me, I'm just getting bored with it now. I'm just bored with it. Right? Like, we're not actually talking about anything that is gonna do any lasting change, anything effective. We're just trading we're just trading barbed wire. And like, it's just boring now. We're not getting anything done. That's where you have to actually listen and work toward a solution. Well, is this right? Is this right? Well, it depends on whether you're what's what's the solution. Yeah. You know, are you making a declaration or are you trying to solve something? Right. If you're working together, let's sit at the table and have sessions of that are worth talking about. Yeah. And and actually talk about the problems that, like, you know, two layers in. Because that's actually it's like we were talking about earlier, about discernment. Right? Like, I was talking to a guy somewhat last week, I think, and he was talking about health care. He goes, don't you think everybody should have health care? And I go, I absolutely do. Yeah. I think that would be great. What we're talking about is how we're gonna pay for it. That's what we're talking about. That's the discussion. Right? The discussion is is not whether I think everybody deserves healthcare. Of course I do. I want everyone to have whatever care they need. What we're talking about as a government that collects tax money and and the burden falls on them is how we're gonna pay for it. Now, that's a great discussion, and I think we should have it. But, like, when you try to throw it in a humanity issue where, like, you don't care about other people, that's actually a lie. The conversation we were trying to have is, how does a government do that? Or how does the government not do that? That's a great discussion on either side. I think that's I think we should have it. But like, at the end of the day, we we end up talking about things six layers up, and like, we miss the discernment part. The thing that's actually the thing that we're arguing about. You know? And so like, I don't know. I think I just need to take a big deep breath and go, okay, who cares about this? Who has passion for it? Can I follow that guy into helping him do what he's been built to do? And here's the other thing on that, and you may have already touched on this or not, I'm not sure. But it's okay to listen to somebody
that you disagree with. Right. And I know this is not a revelation but it is to a lot of people. You know, I can't tell you how many times I've been at a place or something like that and it's like, Eddie, did you know? Like And? Yeah. Let's
listen to an idea and I'm not intimidated by anybody, right? So that means I can listen to anybody And if they have a point, then fine. If they don't have a point, then fine. Yeah. Let's move on. Maybe I can learn something and maybe we can both learn something. Yeah. And isn't that approaching some stuff with some humility and some actual strength and confidence, right? Like I'm not intimidated by good That's
a great statement. I'm not intimidated by good ideas. That's true. And I actually feel like, as a candidate, I feel like I'm a better person and I'm not even in office right now. Yeah. I I feel like I've met about 10,000 new friends. Right. And some of my team members are here with me
late at night. Thank you guys, by the way. Yeah. And these guys will tell you that I will be at Come and Go now and I may not remember your name but I'll look at you and I'm like, cul de sac, four blocks that way, left side of the street, you had a black shirt on when I talked to you. Right? And they're like, you did. And we talked about health care and we talked about education and yeah, and the
conversations are, I get. But because of all the conversations, it's not just me sharing with them, it's them sharing with me And that is powerful. Yeah. That's powerful. Yeah. That's how you affect people. That's how you affect the world, right? Like you take in someone else and they take in you. And then we go, community, here's what we're gonna do. Yeah. That's cool. Now as pastor, you have spent your life having these conversations about Jesus with with with people. Absolutely. And now as a as a politician, you're talking like issues. I mean, some overlaps and stuff and I get that. There's no you can't separate Jesus from who you are and everything. Mhmm. But how how is this different? I mean, it's gotta be different. Is it easier to talk politics or harder? Oh, man. There's a person who actually showed up at our church the other day and I saw them in the parking lot.
And they said, Eddie, Eddie. Like, who is this person? Who is this person? And then ding ding ding ding ding. Oh, yeah. That's right. 3rd House from 86th Street. Right? I got it. Wow. And they reviewed the conversation that we had. And initially, I had forgotten the conversation. And
as we went along about the conversation, they reminded us that we had talked about our favorite bible verses. And in my head, I'm trying to figure out how I got from hi, my name is Eddie Andrews. I'm running for office to favorite bible verses. But this happens all the time that people
we just talk about whatever people need to talk about that day. That's generally how it works. And I don't know how we got to favorite bible verses. It's because you can smell Jesus on people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Can smell it on them. You're like, that guy loves Jesus. Actually talked to one group and I won't say who they are because you may know this group, but I actually talked to this group, God is my witness. It was a team of them and
they just wanted to know more about my candidacy and of course I wanted to know them to know more about my candidacy. And about a few questions in, they say, tell me about your testimony. I'm like, boy, what a Right. I've never been asked that question before in Yeah. In a campaign. Potential endorsement interview. And I just went right on. And then
a couple questions later, I thought we had moved on and apparently some guy must have been checking Google and Yeah. You know. So he goes, what about this? And I'm telling you, we spent forty five minutes talking Scripture in a political endorsement until they ran out of questions to ask and it was just amazing. So for things like that, it's just like,
if you can if those things alone were worth running Yeah. Yeah, maybe it is. Yeah. So I don't think those are the only things. Let me Right. Just point that You do want to win. But
I think We need more of an opportunity. And then there's that. As people of God, you should be a person of God wherever and however and whenever you show up somewhere, you're not divorcing yourself of, you know, I can talk about health care but now, oh, no. We can't talk about God because, know, we don't want to offend anybody. But the thing is, like, lot of that It's who I am. That's exactly right. A lot of that stuff feeds into into policies and confidence and whatever. Like the people, all people, have have worth and we're gonna fight for that. Right? And that's why I wanna run. See, people, one of the things that
I did struggle with when I felt led to run, and I'll just say it that way, when I felt led to run, was a, you don't want to offend 30 or 40% of your potential audience. Yeah. Right? I think that's a real statement. And I struggled with that, I prayed about it a lot. How do you handle these situations? And
at some point, the light bulb came on and it just said, well what do you think you've been doing for the last, you know, zillion years? Yeah, right. Like just keep doing what you're doing, helping people, working with people, solving problems. You know? That's it. Obviously, you have the spiritual element that you deal with people but everything else is pretty much the same. You listen, you hear, discern what the real problem is and solve problems, make relevant solutions. I mean, if I if I went to my wife
and said, dear, love of my life, I'm thinking about running for office, I'd probably have two broken legs and Wow. Cheryl writes for the violence. She would go I just didn't know. And then she'd light me on fire. No girls got cookies at the Hudson
I'm saying, I'm glad you're saying that with No, a she would not do that. But honestly, that's pretty tough on a family because if you have opposition, people, they're just not nice these days. They can't just say I'm not gonna vote for you. Even for the good attention though, every story that Eddie has told so far, people are like, hey Eddie, I'm super excited to see him and like we're just trying to get peanut butter. Calm down. I just wanna go to the store and not have the hands waving or whatever. Well look, I'm excited. I'm a passionate guy when it comes to serving people. But to your point, pastor Hudson, so
man, you are right on. Yeah. I don't know if I should say this or not. I might get in trouble. Yeah. Don't get I don't get Don't get in trouble. Or you could tell it. I mean, either way. Dan's kind of a daisy. It's tough. It's tough because well, for a number of reasons. Just a number of reasons.
You know Well, you want to isolate them, you want to protect them You do. You can't help it if other people bring them in. And as a dad and as a husband and as a father, you want to protect your family and
you want the best for them. And you want them around. But you want to protect them. Yeah. You want to stay married. Around. Yeah. So, yeah, it's tough. It's tough on and especially in my oh boy, I'm just gonna say this and I'm gonna back right back off but especially in my wife's case because she's already in the public's eye. Uh-huh. And so, you know,
to have this other guy running and now she's gotta answer questions for this guy. Yeah. Right. Dude, I You know, I saw people do that every once in a while in interviews, they're like, what do you think about what's going on with this guy? I'm like, hey man, this my press conference. What You know what saying? I'm like, let's come back this way. Seriously. You're making me feel about this big right now. You know what I'm saying? You come here and ask me about other people? That's hard to take in. That's the thing is like, thing that I'm always impressed with is like, I just I would have no tolerance for some of the questions you get asked, right? Or some of the questions that people ask, like you're just sitting there looking, I'm like, I mean, I'm gonna try to answer this in the most coherent way I can, but that was the worst question I've ever heard. You know? But you can't say that. You're like, that's a good point, let's talk through that a minute. I'm like, boy, that's dumb. So I'm happy for your patience. I'm gonna give you an opportunity to rephrase that question
because that was dumb. I get a lot of questions, though, and I think most of them are really good. Really. Because the questions that people ask me are what's on their mind. And so sometimes I actually turn it around and ask them, I said, look, if you were legislator for a day, what would you do? Upgrade the toilet paper.
It's a single ply You would what? And it's bad. What? They buy the cheapest toilet paper at that capital. No good. Okay, so That's what I would do. Mike's got a platform now. We're talking about a theoretical guy. No, no, no. Didn't hear what you saying. Since you answered. Mike's on the green party. Look, we already know it's Cottonelle Purple. Dumb, right? Yes, yes. Now we're talking. Make the changes. None of that. Not even Cottonelle Blue. It's Cottonelle Purple. That's it, bud. Done and done. Not for those guys on septic, but all you regular City Water boys,
get it. Oh, my, my, my, my. Yeah. That's way too much fun. Well, we've been talking to Eddie Andrews. He is running for the House in District 39. I was gonna say 39. That's Johnston. That's Johnston. That's right here. That's Crimes. That is Johnston. That's Urbandale Precinct 4. Urbandale Precinct 4. That's Jefferson Township. Jefferson Township. And Yeah. A few blocks of Granger. And you gotta have those few blocks of Granger just to give the place a slice. It's good thing, look, it might come down to those three blocks of Granger. We're gonna use Granger. I'm glad they cut that up. Yeah. That's funny. Anyway,
anyway, we've actually had a great time talking with you, Eddie. Excited for your for your campaign. I'm for the things that you're that you're how can I say that? It's all the stuff we were just talking about, like the the person that you are that's running. Right? Thank you, Apart from the parties and the whatever, like the person that's running is I think a person that that a lot of people can get behind. So I'm very to see how this turns I think it sounds great. We ever given a Life in the Path endorsement? Well, here's the thing. If it meant anything to anyone, we certainly would. We'll have to have a vote. But it's like giving someone a big bag of poop. Right? They're like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this. Life in the Path? Alright. If it's an endorsement
and five people listen to you Yeah, right. I'm all for that. And people mostly do what we say, so Okay, you ready? Gonna do a couple rounds of advice, and then we're gonna probably call it a night. Yeah, That's the most important part of the evening right here. Okay. Here we go. Every week. Advice time. Ready? Dear live from the path. I have a serious issue with my best girlfriend. What? Best girlfriend? Yeah. We're one sentence in, Dan. Yeah. You whole fellas? I'm sorry. I'm just a listener. I like to hear I wanna I wanna process this Take the letter in in its entirety. Here we go. I have a serious issue with my best girlfriend. We made plans together, adult plans, and then at the last minute, our kids dropped the young grandkids off for her to babysit,
curtailing any plans we have together. Okay. So if this is in a more realm I was going a whole different direction. It's two older gals, and this is her girlfriend, like her her best friend. Right? Just a just a lady. Okay. Here we I was I on a 24 year old dude. No. No. Okay. No. So they say, the past few times, we have changed our plans to a kids' activity. I have an extremely busy client load, and I'm losing income by accommodating my friend's time constraints, which revolve around making her husband's lunch and dinner. Although I'm single now, I'm a widow, I do understand why she has her priorities. If her grandkids are there when we have plans, she asks me to pick them up fast food on the way over on my dime. Boy, this is good. This is awesome. I have kids and grandkids myself, and they are very important to me. I'm tired of being held hostage by her adult children who I who feel who I feel are using her and taking advantage of the drop in daycare with Nana. How can I talk to her about our time being important too? I have intentionally not made plans with my grandkids if she and I have plans, and I would love some reciprocity. Reciprocity? Reciprocity. Nailed it. From thrown under the bus. Okay. There's a lot there's a lot of windbagging going on there. So here's what I think I have missed the whole thing. I mean, I I mean, the whole the yeah. I I think the whole gist of it is is there's there's two older gals Uh-huh. And
one of them feels like the other one is getting taken advantage of by her kids because they keep dropping the grandkids off at Nana's house all the time. And so Nana's having to have to cancel plans with the gal that's writing because she's always gotta deal with the grandkids that keep getting dropped off. And frankly, the gal's getting tired of it. She feels like it's not fair and that she should have some girl time with this gal and that she's basically getting beat down. She wants to go out and have tea. She wants to go out and have tea. But what about the clients? She's busy. She's a career lady. I think she threw that in there to realize I'm busy too. I have grand she also said I have grandkids of my own, and I'm not allowing this. That's that's basically what she's saying. It's like, I'm have I the same situation. I have grandkids and family and I'm not allowing them to push me around like She doesn't have the power to say no. She's wanting her friend to say no to her daughter. Correct.
And she wants she needs some advice on how to approach that conversation. Does the friend want to say no? Like, does she feel like she's imposed? I think the the writer assumes that the other lady is being put upon. That's correct. I And
that's where the conversation starts. She, the other lady, may just feel like, oh my goodness, I wanna see my grandkids every three seconds. Yeah, I think this So we don't know. Mhmm. That's start a conversation. And and it's probably a good good thought because like if you have it just like that, if the woman is not being imposed upon or she doesn't feel like it's being imposed, now the lady that's writing has a bit of a problem, right? Because now she feels like she's catching the shade because this woman is always choosing her grandkids first and she's not very happy about it. And so, now she has to readjust her expectations here and go, well, I mean, everybody gets to think Right? About it
might sound harsh, but you might have to find a circle of friends, right? Other people to have tea with. We've talked about this within marriages and we've talked about this within friendships. There's not just one person that is built to carry your burdens and solely, right? It's too much. It's too much for one person to carry. They can't control your happiness based on the actions of one person. It's unfair for your wife, it's unfair for your husband, and it's unfair for your friend. Right? It's why we have Jesus to carry burdens and why we have a community of people. Because not one person is built to carry all the implications and load that life in a sinful, cracked world produces. And so, like, once again, if you are saying, I want to have tea, I want to have tea with Edna, but Edna keeps choosing her grandkids and she's being a jerk to me. Well, that's not completely true. You should have tea with other people. You should you should give Edna whatever the space that she needs to to to live her life and deal with her family, and invite her to tea as often as you can, and hope she agrees. Right? That's humble living. That's not do what I want you to do and otherwise, I'm gonna be upset at you. That seems really unfair. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because I here my my answer could change in four to six weeks when I become a grandfather because I'm I'm pretty sure everybody's going to go to the backseat.
Right. I mean, I'll be like, oh, look at that. I guess I have a different opportunity. You're on your own for tea. Yeah. Can't talk now. Maybe. But I would say, okay, so have the conversation, and if she says, nah, then you have to leave it. I mean, go ahead and broach it, say, Hey, don't you think you're being taken advantage of? No. Oh, okay. Okay, great. And once again, isn't this all the thing we've been talking about? Have a conversation with somebody and say, Hey, what do think of this? Don't be judgmental or demeaning, just say, Hey, don't you think? This is I think. Yeah. I don't really think so because I love my kids. Now granted, there's sometimes, right I I mean, you've you've run into fellows in the past where you say, hey, man, don't you think the things that you're doing are counterproductive to either your marriage or your life or whatever? And they're like Sure. No, I think it's fine. And then you double down and go, look, I brought this to your attention because I it is counterproductive to your like, we need to talk about this. This is not one of those situations. This is just I I wanna have some friend time and she's struggling to get there. A simple conversation between some people ought to at least get us on the even. Right? Does she have more than one friend? It doesn't sound like it, does it? Well, this is her best friend. Yeah. This is her best girlfriend. Which means she doesn't have any others. That's true. That's true. I stopped having a best friend in, like, third grade. Nobody likes me. I tell them how to live their life. All my friends are just on equal pairing. Right? I mean Yeah. Right. So Okay. So let's see what Secular has to say. Secular says, if this happened occasionally, I would advise you to cut your friend some slack. However, because this happens often, tell her your dates with her are carefully scheduled and when she changes them at the last minute, it has a negative impact on you economically.
Point out that when you make dates with her, you let your children know they will have to arrange for another babysitter unless it is an emergency. And if the last minute changes continue, see her less often and arrange to socialize with other friends who appreciate your situation. So all the things she said are true. She just seemed to say it with two triangles coming off her hips, like with a little sass. That was unnecessary. You know what I'm saying? Triangles. Yeah. Yeah. Throw the triangles out. You know how get that at your house when you get the triangles? People don't like it. All the ladies at my house do it. And I say, well, you got the triangles out? That's not good one. We the neck.
Oh. We get the neck and the finger here. Yeah. Yeah. Nope. We go for the straight triangle. Even the one triangle Trust is not me. You do not want the neck. No. I don't want it. I agree. It sounds hard to deal with. One more. Ready? Dear, live from the path. I'm about to be 22. I've been talking to a man around my age for almost six months now.
He tells me how special I am and how much I mean to him, but says he isn't ready for a relationship. We go on dates and do not have relations with other people. He says putting a, quote, tile on us will give him accountability he doesn't want. Woah. This is not gonna be a very long letter. He claims to be over his ex, but he often mentions her. I know he was still conversing with her when we first started talking, but he lied about it. I'm not rushing a relationship because I know it takes time to get to know someone, but I want to know if he can see a future with me, and if that is a question he will not answer. I have attachment issues and don't want to let him go, but I can't help but feel as if I'm not good enough for him, which he says I'm not. Should I move on or wait and see what the future holds? Oh, wait. He says she's not? Oh, she says, I can't help but feel as if I'm not good enough for him, which he says is not the case. Says, yes. Yeah. Yeah. You're good enough. Okay. Yeah. So her question was, should I move on or wait and see what the future holds?
I'm ready to answer. You should drop him right now. He's no good for you. I think he's a young man and he may have straightened his ways out in his early thirties maybe. But not for you and not right now. It's time for him to go. Yeah, this is a Jerry Springer waiting to happen. You know? It's just you see it, he doesn't want any kind of commitment and it's just like, dude,
he's not grown up enough. Right? No. We date men. That's that's who we date, ladies. We date men and we hold them to a high standard because God holds them to a high standard and so do you. And we don't accept less because when we accept less, then we get a bunch of undateable men And we don't need that. You don't want that for another fifty years of your life. You don't want that man raising kids. Right? You need a man that you can count on, that values you, and and his life is spent adding to you, not taking from you. And if you spend your life adding to him, then you, sir, got yourself a marriage. Right? If if if each if each person in that marriage spends their life adding to the other, then both are taken care of, both are loved, and both will flourish. If you, sitting on the coattails of a man that can't seem to get his act together, won't commit to you, that's the least we're asking of him to do, is to commit and say, I just wanna be with you. Right? That's the smallest thing that we're asking. And he's like, I'm not gonna do it. He's gone right now. Not one tier. Just gone. I I just I don't I've granted, I'd usually land pretty hard on guys on this, and I would love to talk to him. I think him and I would have some great things to discuss, but he's not date worthy right now at all. I think he can go and you can do it politely but he can go home. Dan? Disagreement. Yeah. I agree with you guys, honestly. It's it's he he he is still attached,
or at least wants to be to his ex and he's still working that out. Which is fine. We're not saying there's anything wrong with that. Yep. That's just just can't date another lady Yeah. Till you get that straightened up. You just need to cut that off and and and give him a chance to say, oh, wait. No. If it's a dream of someone else or you, I'll take you, but but you've gotta cut it. Yeah. I mean, this this can't be Yeah. You can't keep dragging it on. So some some some guys just need that. You have to be forced into a choice, you know. Yeah. They don't realize how what they have until they're like, oh, I could lose this. Yeah. I mean, don't don't don't, like, you know, make a threat, but just say, here's here's what it is. Just I'm out if you're not in. Yeah. I I think we I think we as a society, especially as Christian boys, look, we expect a lot out of our men because God does. Mhmm. Right? And so God puts a burden of that relationship and he holds the man accountable. He He doesn't say the man is the is the the man in charge and he gets to rule the roost.
But when there's something going on within a relationship or within a marriage, God's gonna come looking for Adam. That's the guy he's gonna hold accountable for the contract. And so if you're gonna saddle yourself up or yoke yourself up to a dude, just make sure he's up to the task. So I yeah. I think it's time for you to bail right now. Okay. Let's see what Secular's answer is. Secular says, stop allowing your insecurity issues to affect your common sense. You are both young and your relationship has been going on for only six months. Is 22 young to be married? I guess I don't remember when I got married. Was So I was I was married look, I was we were way married By '22. By '22? Oh, yeah. Okay. Now hold on. Is the thing that I'm saying wrong? Right? Wait wait wait. Like, when we're talking about even a guy in his early twenties is am I expecting too much out of a man in his early twenties?
Are we on another one or are we on the same one? We're on this one. We're talking about the guy that won't commit to his woman and won't So I guess I space time. I do a lot of mentoring or talking. Maybe not mentoring. But like, I kind of have a rant and I don't want to start ranting right now. Sure. But
I'll just go back to what I did. Like, I was like, let's move this date up. Yeah. That that's me. Yeah. It's like, Betty, you know, the funny thing about us, the first memory of us was arguing, you know, we were debating. Like, as kids,
like, and this, by the way, has never stopped. Oh, sure. But I was like, you know, I see who I want. You know, we've been dating since like what, 16, 17, you know, high school sweetheart. Like, what am I gonna wait till I'm 34? Yeah. Mhmm.
Like, this is who I want. Yep. And I didn't realize until like later that I I had my granddad didn't come to my wedding because we were too young. Oh. But I didn't know anything about that until my brother spilled the beans like thirty years later. It's like, do you remember when granddaddy didn't come to your wedding? Like, what? What? That's why? Grandpa, why? I thought he was stuck. He thought he was sick or something.
But I was 18. And I was like, I'm grown. I'm sorry, I think I was 19. Yeah. I think, now that you think about it. Yeah, I was 19. I was a sophomore in college. I figured that, you know, I'm poor. I can
you know, but we were managing through high through college. I'm like, I've gotta marry this girl. This is the woman. This is woman That's I it. Why in the world? And besides, why would I wait for her to beat some six five football player? Right. I got her food right now. She's tired herself. So So that was it. I was 21. My wife was 19, and we were like, same thing. It was just like, well, let's just get this life started. I mean, if if that's if we're gonna be it, let's let's go ahead and get this going, you Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Secular sense. What what was that? Okay. Stop allowing your insecurity issues to affect your common sense. You're both young and your relationship has been going on for only six months. That's true. We're getting wound up over a six month relationship here. Alright. Alright. He has been honest by I'll back up a little bit. He has been honest by admitting he isn't ready for a relationship or the titles that go with one. He may not answer your questions about a future because he doesn't know the answer, so stop pushing him. He may be more focused on work at this point than romance, and frankly, so should you be. If nothing has changed in another six months, consider dating others then. Wow. She was way more lax on him than I'd have been. Well, I I okay. So the six months part, it sounds like they are an item but But he doesn't want Not a serious item. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm gonna take back a little bit.
Well, here's the thing though. It depends on it really depends on what kind of item. I I have a hard time giving fellas a little bit of rope because they'll take all of it. Right? And so you're like, hey, it's okay to, like, take a girl's attention. Take a woman's attention and her thoughts. I mean, if if you've had a wife or a girlfriend for any amount of time, you know that for every two thoughts you have, they have a thousand. And it's always running in there and it's always thinking. And so when you say, look, she is taking up my thoughts or my effort, you're taking up a thousand times more from that from her. So realize what you're taking. Right? And so if you're not serious about this thing or you don't plan on on on riding this thing out, I think you need to tell her and I think you need to tell her right now. I think that's really unfair of you to play around in that area. So, I'm just gonna go back a little bit.
So, when If it's only been a few months, I'm not sure that a person should be ready to commit for marriage
necessarily. I hear what you're saying. Do you feel like at least you will know after six months whether it's a marriage avenue? Well, like in my case, like I said, I knew but I dated my wife in high school. Yeah. And I had known her. You know, it's like when you've known somebody long enough that you don't remember meeting them because you were 13 or 12 or 11, right? So I kinda had her in my background for a long time. Yeah. So it wasn't quite the same thing. But if you're talking about somebody who you just met
Six months is too early to give it to Quickley. Know. Okay. Hear what you're saying. I don't know. Okay. We'll back it down on being so hard on the man. But if this continues on by a year, now we can bring the heavy. Yeah. I mean, I think I think as you get closer yeah. I mean, make a decision. Yeah. Okay. Good. We're on the same page. We're just gonna move the time frame out a little bit. Yeah. Old Mike was too heavy on him. I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry you don't have your life together and you're a flim flam artist. Apologies. I'll never meet him personally. Oh, boy.
That's endorsed only by Mike. That those are my words. So do we have the disclaimer that this is 9PM Yeah. Advice? This is not Yeah. This is not days worth of, or, you know, we had a conglomerate together and we thought about the best answer. It's just whatever's coming out of the mouth right now. Nobody's gonna hold us to this. Absolutely. No. There's no legal requirement. Zero accountability here. You can just you can just burn it. Alright. You've been listening to Live From The Path on livefromthepath.org.
Thank you very much for joining us, Eddie Andrews. We're very excited for your upcoming election. I feel like you got this in the bag. Now here's the deal. If if if it Can I put my sign in your yard? Does people ever ask you that? Because you're out trying to put signs in other people's yard. What is your sign? It just says my name, Mike is okay. Doesn't even say good or bad. Mike Versa. It says Mike is Let us exchange. We should exchange signs. 100%. Yeah. Done. My sign's not gonna do you any good. Yeah. His sign's in a whole different district. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm way south of here. I don't actually live in Johnston. But So what you do is you put one of our little QR codes on your sign and then that way anybody who walks by will
click on that and then they can donate. So you're proposing to to steal my sign with your QR code? Did I say steal or did we say I phrased it that way. I'm pretty sure we didn't say steal. Okay, got it. Okay, not steal. I'm good with the trade. Okay, we're trade. We're doing a sign exchange. Barter. Make sure make sure you get out and vote. Now listen, we're not gonna get on the soapbox here, but listen, we we operate in a country that's built on personal liberties and personal freedoms that is not available to everyone in this world. And so you really need to take advantage of it. You really need to get out there and vote.
And I'd prefer if you voted for Eddie. But either way, you need to be out and voting for your local your your government officials, your state officials, your country officials. This this is your job. We don't ask that much of you, except to just say, here's what I think. And I don't think that's too much to ask. And so, like, you need to be out there and voting, and it's coming right up on you. So thank you for listening to Life From The Path. You're gonna catch the clips on the YouTube, probably the Facebook. We'll see when it comes out. And what does Ben always say? Be faithful in the means, and God will handle the ends. You've been listening to Life From The Path.
