Live From The Path · Season 2021, Episode 13
Participating in God’s Will and other sundry advice
Topics covered
- God's sovereignty and human participation — God's will is done whether or not anyone cooperates; the invitation is to join what he is doing. ≈ 1:42
- Mordecai and Esther — Mordecai's warning that deliverance comes regardless, but participation is the choice. ≈ 1:42
- Free will and determinism — Whether divine foreknowledge removes human responsibility. ≈ 6:50
- Means, not ends — God prescribes the means of obedience; outcomes belong to him and are not ours to measure. ≈ 9:30
- Daily obedience — Faithfulness as simple, uncomplicated walking with Jesus rather than clever long-term plotting. ≈ 17:32
- Marriage and commitment — Commitment precedes cohabitation; invitation to move in without a marriage promise sells the relationship short. ≈ 20:53
- Marriage and loving God first — Loving God more as the fix for marriage problems, contra communication-technique books. ≈ 5:57
- Secular answers — The show's blunt 'secular answer' foil that tells Dear LFTP writers what they may want to hear. ≈ 25:36
- Food and hospitality — Hair in home cooking, restaurant hygiene, and the petty stakes of dinner-table complaints. ≈ 26:31
- Studio chaos and show logistics — The destroyed studio, the shortened show format, and the complaint line. ≈ 0:00
Segments
- Show open: Diet Life From The Path 0:00–1:41
Mike opens the show from the Pathway Studios, admitting he destroyed the studio a few weeks ago and that the hosts arrived early to clean it up. With Mike heading out of town and Nathaniel on a work deadline, he lays out a short docket: Nathaniel will say something redeeming about the Lord, then the hosts will do general advice, then they will cut the show short.
- Nathaniel's Esther 4 and Revelation 4-5 reflection 1:42–3:23
Nathaniel shares what he was reading: Esther 4, where Mordecai tells Esther that if she stays silent, deliverance for the Jews will come from somewhere else, but she and her father's house will come to ruin — and Revelation 4-5's throne-room vision of God being praised. His point: God's praise and will are going to happen regardless; the only question is whether we get to be part of it.
- Mordecai's point: participation, not control 3:23–5:57
A host expands on Mordecai's message: new believers often look to see what God will produce for them, but maturity shifts to wanting to be part of whatever God is doing. He ties it to 'every knee shall bow' (willingly or not), the Judas question of whether God's plan could ever blow up, and Mordecai's counsel that God's covenant promise will be kept — the question is only which side of the promise you want to be on.
- Francis Chan's marriage book and loving God first 5:57–6:49
Nathaniel brings up a Francis Chan marriage book (half-remembered as 'you and me forever'), whose premise is that one's spouse will stand before God someday — 'what are you gonna do about it?' A host riffs on Adam's 'the woman you gave me' deflection, and the group agrees with Chan's knock on communication-technique books: love God more and the rest follows.
- The Reformed determinism debate: 'chair or plate of broccoli' 6:50–9:30
Emma raises the classic Reformed question: if God knows everything, is it already written, so whatever happens is to God's glory anyway? A host answers with the chair-vs-plate-of-broccoli analogy — a chair is a chair no matter what you call it; God defines reality as he pleases. He shares a youth-group message: God will not leave you alone and will keep sending people; you cannot be the ruination of God's will.
- The Adventureland roller-coaster analogy 9:30–14:21
A host compares God's will to a roller coaster at Adventureland that is going to go whether or not you board: you might as well get on. The group develops it: God does two things at once — he accomplishes his purposes and invites people into the joy of participating. He retells the Ethiopian eunuch story with comic speculation that Philip was the last-resort volunteer, and jokes about a 'fun uncle' mini-golf outing: God cares about how the holes are played, not that you finish all 18.
- Means vs. ends: David's census and the dog-crap parable 14:22–17:32
A host argues that people get caught up in theological questions about the ends while God prescribes the means: David's sin in taking the census was measuring an army that did not belong to him. He tells a man that if God told him to pick up the same piece of dog crap every day for twenty years, he should thank God for the invitation, because God shows step 25 only after step 24 is done. Mordecai's Esther charge is restated: God will keep his promise; walk faithfully in what is in front of you right now.
- Walking faithfully today: shingles on the back 17:32–20:52
The hosts answer how to walk well today: simple, uncomplicated obedience — did you greet your neighbor, walk humbly, weep with those who weep — rather than plotting months ahead. A host mocks Christian-book shelf sprawl and the robe-and-cross-necklace performance, then tells of spending two hours engineering a shingle pulley system while his contractor father-in-law just carried the shingles up the ladder in thirty minutes. Jesus carried the cross (Simon of Cyrene only helped along the way).
- Dear LFTP: the boyfriend who won't commit 20:53–25:34
A host reads a listener letter: two years in, she invited her boyfriend to move in after COVID-era cohabitation; he took five months to answer, went back to his parents eight months ago, and will not commit to a date while blowing her off for his family. The hosts are blunt: without a marriage promise she is selling herself too cheaply — 'if you have to drag a man into a relationship with you, he does not want to be in a relationship with you.' They compare dating timelines, with Dan having married within fifty-one weeks of his first date.
- Secular's answer: the relationship letter 25:36–26:30
Secular's answer to the relationship letter is read: if the boyfriend wanted to live with her he would not have gone back to his parents, and unless she is a masochist the romance will not last. The hosts find it a little aggressive but concede Secular feeds people what they want to hear, and note the letter already painted the boyfriend as a doofus while the writer painted herself as wonderful.
- Dear LFTP: the hair in the food letter 26:31–29:44
A host reads a letter from a wife embarrassed that her husband loudly complains once or twice a month about finding a hair in her cooking. The hosts riff: 'hey, Barb, I got your curls in my spaghetti,' treat it as an Easter egg or garnish, and land on the idea that she may be more sensitive about it than he is — maybe he is just saying 'oh look, a hair' the way the hosts would.
- Restaurant kitchens, beard nets, and the BM gag 29:44–32:25
The hair discussion escalates into gross-out territory: beard nets are 'merely for show,' a host guesses he has eaten eighty-five pounds of beard hair in his life, and they joke that complaining about a restaurant hair earns you food made 'in Hakaluca.' A tangent clarifies that 'BM' meant bowel movement, with a baby-Ruth-style visual gag, and a host urges the hosts' COVID-era mask commentary — 'no one is doing what you think they're doing.'
- Secular's hair advice and the hosts' verdict 32:26–35:14
Secular's answer is read: a foreign object in food kills appetite, so prevent it like professional chefs — wear a hairnet, scarf, or hat — 'or your husband could prepare his own meals.' The hosts rule both sides petty: ignore the hair, but if the wife is going to make a big deal of complaints, a ponytail during cooking is fair. Emma's read — the husband probably is not overreacting and the wife is oversensitive — gets traction.
- Outro: Nathaniel's night, the complaint line, and the sign-off 35:15–36:42
The hosts wrap up, crediting Nathaniel with both the best Jesus material and the best advice of the night, and admit they are unsure when they will be back since Mike will be out of town. They restore the complaint line after studio cleanup — (515) 517-0085, call or text — and close with the standard benediction: 'be faithful in the means; God will handle the ends.'
Bible references
- Esther 4
Mordecai tells Esther: if you don't go, deliverance will come from somewhere else, and you and your father's house will come to a demise
- Revelation 4-5
a depiction of the throne room of God … holy, holy, holy
- Philippians 2:10-11
you hear every knee shall bow and every tongue confess
- Isaiah 6:8
here I am, Lord. Use me
- Genesis 3
I didn't wanna eat from the tree … This the woman you gave me
- Acts 8:26-40
the story of the Ethiopian eunuch … Philip, head on out to the desert
- 2 Samuel 24
he took a census of God's army
- Micah 6:8
did you walk humbly with your God today? Did you fight for justice?
- Romans 12:15
did you weep with those who weep?
Key questions
- Is it wrong to think God's will for the world would fall flat if you did nothing? (host-framed)
- Why evangelize if God already knows who will be saved? (host-framed)
- How do we walk well in this today? (host-framed)
- Should I take a step back in the relationship with my non-committal boyfriend? (listener)
- Should the husband mention finding a hair in the food or let it pass? (listener)
People
- Mordecai
- Esther
- Judas
- Adam
- Francis Chan
- David
- Philip
- Ethiopian eunuch
- Simon of Cyrene
- Mario Batali
- Pantera
- Michael Bolton
- Mike
- Dan
- Nathaniel
- Emma
- Barb
Full transcript
Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper. You are live from the path.
And you're listening to Live From The Path. We're coming from the Pathway Studios here in Johnston Proper. Yes. I am. I'm here. My name is Mike. Yeah. Okay. So we're we're we gotta keep this thing moving. Here's what I wanna tell you. This is none of your business. It's not your business, but this is what happened. Is, for, again, things that aren't your problem, I destroyed the studio Yeah. A number of weeks ago. This stuff was everywhere. Cables and and and stuff all over the place. And so we got here a couple hours early and said, well, hour fifteen. Said that we're gonna straighten this place out. How long has it been? Four hours. Okay. It's been a long time. So It was overdue. Yeah. And and then Mike's got some Mike's gonna be out of town coming up, and so here's what we we were determined to put a show on. Nathaniel's gotta be up, like, up for work, I think, in, like, six hours. And and so we're gonna get some in. Yeah. So here's what we're we got two things on the docket and two things only. Nathaniel is gonna say something redeeming about the lord.
He's up for number one. Yeah. And then we're gonna do some advice, general populist advice for number two, and then we're gonna cut out of here. Yeah. So I it's weird to think that we're putting on a show and we're doing you a favor by cutting it low, but that's exactly what we're gonna do today. I'm ready. Okay. So, first things first. Nathaniel, say something redeeming about Jesus. Go. So yesterday, I was reading a Bible. Hold on. I can't I can't hear what you're saying. Can you hear me now? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah? Okay. I was reading the Bible, and I was reading Esther four.
Okay. Yeah. Yep. Esther four. I sound kinda echoey, don't I? Is that just me? Yeah. That's just you. I echo. This is the worst radio ever. Oh, sorry. Diet life from the path. Oh, sorry. Anyways Is your name Legion? I don't what do I sound me. Me. What do I sound like? Me. Can you guys hear me? Goodness.
Anyway, so I was reading Esther four. And in Esther four, Mordecai tells Esther, if you're familiar with this story, he says, hey, you need to go talk to the king because all the Jews are gonna die, yo. And she's all like, oh, you know, the king and the and the scepter and all that. And he's like, well, you can't get out of it
because the Lord's gonna save the Jews anyhow. Uh-huh. So if you don't go, say it'll come from somewhere else, and you and your father's house will come to a demise. Oh, right. And then I started reading Revelation four and five. And
in that, it gives a depiction of the throne room of God. You know, you got these creatures and holy, holy, holy, and all this stuff. And I was thinking to myself, self, you know, this is God's gonna be praised. Yep. You know? It's it's gonna be it's it's happening Yep. Right Yeah. And so, you know, if it's not coming from us, it's coming from somewhere else. Just like Mordecai was saying to Esther. You know, if we're not doing it, someone else is doing it because God's gonna get it done because that's his will. Yeah. So
we might as well do it. Yeah. The question is is whether you wanna be a part of this thing or not. Exactly. Right? I I I I think that's one of the hardest things to grasp onto. Because, like, when you first meet Jesus, like, it it even if you don't mean to, you're looking to see what God's gonna produce for you or like how he's gonna change your life, you know, and and what he's gonna do. And like, I I think after a while, you start going, I just wanna be a part of whatever God's going to do because I think it's gonna be awesome. Right? And the more you get to see God do something, you're like, what a gift to just be a part of it. Right? You're no longer like, send me. Like, I mean, still we still want Isaiah. Right? Like, here I am, Lord. Use me. But, like, not I'm gonna be the one that's gonna change this. I'm gonna be the one that talks to a thousand people. I'm gonna go mission in '17 different countries. I'm gonna start a church. I'm gonna whatever. Right? Like, you start to lose that after a while, you're like, oh, God. I I I just I I know you're doing something cool. I just feel like I really wanna be a part of it. You know? And to that same tune, you know, like, we we kinda run past it anymore, but, you hear every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. And, like, that's not it sounds great, you know, where you're like, everyone will come to know the Lord. And and and basically, what God's saying there is is, like, whether you want to bow or not, I am God. I need you to hear that. So either you're gonna bow willingly
or you're gonna bow because you're you're gonna end up doing it either way. Yep. So so God's inviting you in, and he always does this. Right? He always invites you in to be a part of what he's doing, and it really just becomes a humility thing that goes, you wanna be a part of this thing or not? Right? Like, you take yourself off the throne and go, god's gonna do something cool. I wanna be a part of it. Yeah. And you know what? It's funny because that starts to address, so I don't know. The big big things with how people think about notions of free will and, like, well, if it wasn't Judas, like like, God's whole plan would have blown up. I'm like,
it would happen. Like, however this is however things are gonna get done, it's it's difficult for us to say, in one hand, God expects you to do he calls you to things and he expects you to do them. And on the other hand, say, his will will ultimately be done whether you participate or not. But it is true. That's what Mordecai is saying. Like, the very conundrum that we sit here and and kinda wring our hands about, Mordecai is saying, this will happen. God made a made a a covenant promise. Our our people will not be wiped out. I'm not worried about it happening. What I'm worried about is you and your participation in it. What do you want which which side of that participation do you wanna be on? Do you wanna be part of the promise potentially, or do you wanna be on the other end of God keeping it, which may not be good for you and your father's household?
Yeah. I was reading this Fran Chan book recently. Is it it's a marriage book they wrote. It's I forget what it's called exactly. Something like you and me forever or something Mhmm. Something goofy like that. The Perfect Asian Marriage by Fran Chan. Yeah. Well, kind of, but also not really. Because the whole, like, premise of the book is that he starts off the book by saying your spouse is going to stand in front of God someday. Yeah. What are you gonna do about it? And it's like, wow.
What am I gonna do about it? I would say, Yahweh, this is the one I was telling you about. Yeah. I didn't wanna eat from the tree. Yeah. Yeah. This the woman you gave me. That's right. This is the one you gave me. So he's he's kinda like, not necessarily knocking, but he he was knocking for sure. All these books about, like, know, six ways to communicate with your partner and and things like that. And so, that doesn't matter. You need to love God more, and that will solve all those things.
Emma, did you have something? I feel like whenever I try to think about, like, like, if you didn't do this, it was gonna happen anyways, then you start getting into, like, God knows everything, and it's gonna happen. And then that just misses my head. Like, I know this is gonna happen and it's gonna happen, but it might not or it's going to anyways, and it just it gets all Emma's wandered into the great the the great reform debate of if god knows it, doesn't that mean it's written down, which means it has to occur.
Yes. Right. Or It's like it already happened. So then it was to God's glory anyhow. Yeah. Yeah. Our sins, how how did God use it to his glory? Grace, how is it like a chair? Did you say it's like a chair? I really yes. I did. Okay. Like like, if one guy looks at the chair and says, that's a chair. And another guy looks in and is like, no. That's a plate of broccoli. It's a chair. It's not a plate of broccoli. It's gonna be a chair anyway.
It's not gonna be a plate of broccoli. Yeah. I suppose I suppose that really does speak to, like, the perspective as if you look at things. Like, and and we struggle with that, like, obviously, nowadays with a lot of things that we're talking about. Like, you can call things 10 different things. God called them what he wanted to call them, defined them how he wanted to define them, and said, look, this is the way that my world works. And whether you want to take that in or not, yeah, that's that's that's hard. Right? We talked about that, and we were talking about that in, with our youth group at some point. Like like, here's the deal. If God has called you, you can ignore that for so long. He's not going to leave you alone. He will continually send people in your life, and you'll know it. Right? So so, like, we were talking about look. If you're ready for,
you you know, talking about baptism, are you ready to to to pray and and and invite the holy spirit to be part of your life? If you're not digging on that today or you're not feeling that today, just know that, like, the good news has been given to you, and God is not going to give up. He's gonna come after you the rest of your life. And just just hear me that, like, when people start entering your life and bringing up Jesus and whatever, God doesn't give up on you. And so you can ignore it as long as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that God loves you, God wants you, and he will continue, and you have to fight to keep him away. And you'll look at if you could look back at your life and see that happen, after you've lived a bit, you can look back and see where God was coming after you, and you were stubbornly turning around going, no, that's very broccoli. That's definitely not the chair. Definitely not. So it is the right I'm try I'm trying to think the the right way to vocalize this.
Is this wrong to think that God's God's will for the world will fall flat if you don't do anything? Like, you will not be the ruination of God's will.
That's true. Mhmm. And that's Mordecai's point. Yes, sir, you don't have to do you don't have to do this. But if you don't, God's will will be done. You just might not be involved in it, you and your father's house. And you're also will come to ruin. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're at Adventureland, and there's the dude at the tornado, and he's he's saying the roller coaster's about to go. And you can either get on or not, but it's gonna go. So you might as well go ahead and get on.
So analogy? And the so and so the consequence, though, because think of from a church perspective, like, a lot of things you would urge in your community or discipleship is to say, hey, man. You gotta get on that coaster. You gotta follow God's will. People people need saved, and you need to go out and spread the the word. And this guy could say, well, I mean, what you're telling me is maybe I don't get on the coaster, but everyone else is still gonna go. Well and that's probably the main point is, like, is is if you look throughout the entire,
story of the Bible, God is always accomplishing his means through his people. And and all the joy, not all the joy, but a good amount of the joy of being in relationship with God is him inviting you in to do those things. Mhmm. So God's saying God's doing two things at once. He's never just doing one thing. Right? So he is saving other people or bringing the gospel to other people, but he's allowing it to to you to to do it through you, to allow you to be part of that. And like, I mean, I don't know if you've ever had the opportunity to speak Jesus into somebody's life and actually have it take hold and watch the Holy Spirit dwell within them and let them accept who Christ is and turn their life over to that, there's no better feeling. Right? And so God is accomplishing multiple things where we can only think of one thing, one end. You know? God is God is doing two or three things at one time, both through his people and towards his people. And, like, we don't think like that because we're not a deity. Yeah. Right? Like, it's just how God how God does it. And so we we look at the world and go, man, there's gotta be a million moving pieces. And just to have this one in the right place at the right time then and just have these things intersect, what a coincidence, and this is a crazy deal. And, like, this is not a thing for a God who created the world. Right? It's not a complex problem for him. It's just a thing that he's doing. Look at look at, the Ethiopian eunuch. Right? The the story of the Ethiopian eunuch. He'd he'd been in Jerusalem for the, whatever, treasury conference. And he's doing this thing. I wonder how many Christians he ran across that time that God was saying, hey. Talk to this eunuch guy. And they all said, I don't maybe that's something that, you know, no. I don't think so. I mean, we're just making it up. I don't know. Oh, was he reading that? And so he's going back home. Yeah. And then finally, said, okay. Nobody did it. So Philip, head on out to the desert because I wanna get this done, and nobody else did it. I don't know. May maybe that happened. Maybe they all maybe Philip was planning on long. I I don't know. Can I add on to, like, the roller coaster analogy? Yeah. Like
so, yeah. It's it's it's kinda related. Like like, yeah, the roller coaster is gonna go anyway, and you could just knock it on it. It's gonna go. But but then you're not on the roller coaster, and you don't get to experience the fun of the roller coaster. And now you're just sitting there watching everyone else do them, man. And you're like, man, that looks fun. And you're not on a roller coaster, and it stinks. Right. I think the one of the reasons it's hard for us to imagine it because we can't even imagine how many different people might get on the roller coaster in our place. Like, it could be anybody. Right. And we know like, maybe we know someone's gonna get on the empty seat, but we don't know who unless it's us. Then we know who. That's that's true. And we're we're caught up in the thought of what, again, our limited mindset. If if, we don't even think of the different ways in which God may work this out. And so so we we get bound by that. So, like, it's so it's it's such an odd thing because, like, if you wanna it's weird to press the matter. There's a lot again, a lot of reform talk gets caught up in this, and a lot of, frankly, reformers get accused of this, which is to say, if god knows everything and if he presay if he he decides who's saved and who isn't or knows who's going to be saved and who's not and because he knows that it has to be true, and it will happen that way, then why do I have to do anything? Mhmm. And, like, what a crappy way to approach your understanding of dealing with the living God. If he says, hey. Let me invite you into this. And you're like, well, why do I have to? You misunderstand the kingdom, sir. Yeah. Like, I I don't know if he wants you in in his presence permanently if your attitude is, yeah. But do I have to? No. You you don't have to. You should want to get on the roller coaster. That's right. That's right. Right. Because god said so. Right? It's like your it's like your your phone uncle shows up and be like, hey, man. We're gonna go mini golfing. And you're like, mini golfing with everybody else is lame, but mini golfing with Mark is awesome. We will definitely stop at three gas stations. He will definitely get fried chicken. We will eat it at the mini golf course, and we generally throw the balls at the at the at the head of the clown man before we leave. Like, it is a great time. Like, these are the things God's inviting into. He's not saying, I care that you get through the 18 hole. I want you to get through the 18 holes the way I would do it. Okay. You know? Okay. So here's the right way to think to to to speak about this then. It it's the same way we end the show. We are people get caught up theologically in the conversation asking about the ends.
God is prescribing the means. He says go, so you go. Maybe and it's not like, hey, Nathaniel, you needed to go save a dude. No. He's like, Nathaniel, you go because I told you to go. It's not your prerogative as to whether a man gets saved through your efforts. Your efforts are just god says, this is how we this is what obedience looks like. These are the types of things. This is the way things work in my kingdom. You go and do that. The question isn't, well, if I don't go, will the man ever get saved? You're you're not in you're not the ends person. That's right. Because we're trying to measure. Right? What's the one thing David got in trouble for? Yeah. Measuring something that didn't belong to him. That's right. Like, he took a census of God's of God's army and said, I wanna know how big our army is. And God goes, woah. Woah. Woah. That's not your army. You don't get to count things that don't belong to you. That's my army. And so David's big big thing David did a couple things. But one of the things that he got real big trouble for,
David got us a reprimand was because he he he wanted he wanted to know. He wanted to know the size of Israel's Army because he wanted to be able to be in control of this thing. God goes, woah. Woah. Woah. That's not in your business to start measuring things. You don't worry about measurement. Right? Like, you don't worry about how many people you personally have brought to the Lord. If you're if you're praying and asking and in God's word and doing what God is asking you to do, I just told a guy this week, like, literally this week, I said, look. If God told you that every day you were gonna go out and and his will was for you to pick up the same piece of dog crap in a yard for the next twenty years, right, you smile and humbly say, god, thanks for inviting me into this. Right? Because you have no idea what he's doing, and he's not gonna tell you because every time he's told because he's done this. Right? Like, shows you the ends, you try to shortcut him. You try to get there first. You try to skip a couple steps or try to get there the way that you wanted to get there, and God goes, no. No. No. I have a a thousand step plan here. You're on step 24. I'll give you 25 when you get done with 24. Because if I tell you a thousand, you'll just skip all the cool stuff I had for you all the way in there and just try to run to the end. And and because we're humans, we always do that. That's right. You're not late for anything except for obedience. That's the only thing. Like like the like, that's just just obedience in the next step. You're not late. You're never late for an outcome. God will handle the outcome.
You're just gonna you're gonna react faithfully. And so it doesn't that's why so so so stop pressing the reformed guy and saying, well, why do you why do you evangelize if God already knows? I evangelize because God tells me to. I think the theology is wrong, but regardless, quit harassing the guy. He's gonna evangelize because God told him to. It doesn't matter. The the ends are are not relevant. And and so so back to back to Malachi's point or Mordecai's point. I got my m my MIs messed up. Though back to Mordecai's point is that, like, God God has a promise. He will keep it. I have no understanding as to the means through which he keeps it, but you seem like a good route. Walk faithfully in the thing he has you potentially doing right now. I guess because that's what Mordecai says. Like, perhaps you you're perhaps you're in this spot for a time such as this. Esther's in a rough spot. She spent some,
improper nights with the king. Like, she's not she's not a practicing Jew. She's not doing anything that she's supposed to. And Mordecai's like, God can use it. Are you gonna walk faithfully in it right now? That's your question. I don't care what happened up to this point. You've got a faithfulness to walk in right now. Are you gonna do it? And and that was and it's more about Esther than it is about the Jewish people
at that moment in time. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's good thoughts. So how how do we walk in that well tomorrow? How do we walk well in that today? It's,
actually, I think you just walk well in it today. That's it. Yeah. Like, it's it's it's not it isn't when when it comes to following Jesus faithfully, it's not ever really our role to have to think or plot. It's a plot. Plot's the right word for it. You don't gotta plot a year in advance or six months in advance. It's it's just walking faithfulness. Like, what does it look like to be obedient to Jesus in this relationship today? I don't have to scheme. I don't have to plot. I don't have to come up with a master plan.
My faithfulness are are are generally uncomplicated because the things simple things that everyone can do because God does the work in the simple obedience. It's not human cleverness that does any of this. And so, sometimes we feel like, hey. I don't that's why Christian books drive me nuts. It's because they drive me nuts because there's a million of them on a shelf. And I'm like, you know what? Put it down. Put it down. Did you say hi to your neighbor? Did you care for them? Did you walk humbly with your God today? Did you did you fight for justice? You know? Like, did you did you weep with those who who who who are weeping? These are not hard things. Like, the the I I don't have to say sorry for how plainly I'm gonna say this, but, like, the dumbest guy you've ever met in your life can weep with those who weep. He can walk humbly with his god. Like the like the people like the the robes the robes fellows, the robes priests who walked in the streets and were oh, I praise the lord. Look at me. I wear the I wear the cross necklace. I read all the Christian books. Look at me. Yeah. Right. I I just like, like, we're always looking for we're looking for an angle.
You don't need an you have you have the greatest angle ever. So just walk as it's like I I'm I'm my life is way more at risk of being too complicated and being too planned out than it is just walking faithfully. That's that's way more my risk than, like, I thought too long. I I'm I'm prone to this. I I think too long trying to figure out the cleverest way to go about something instead of just doing it. I think I've told this on the on the show before, but, like, my father-in-law,
is it it does does, construction work. He's a contractor. And, like, I've spent, like, two hours on the ground figuring out how I'm gonna pulley system a bunch of shingles up onto a roof. And this this six year old dude will just put him on his back and walk him up there. He could walk him up in thirty minutes, but it was a lot of hard work. Me, I didn't wanna have to do hard work, and so I spent two hours trying to figure out how I can rig up something and drag him up there. And, like, it's that kind of thing. You know, we should be doing? Put the shingles on your back and just take them up the ladder and do it over and over and over and over again. And whatever other simple task is, what's the easiest? Hey. How do we get these on the roof? Carry them up. Great. Done.
And I I think that our our we run the risk of the complication as opposed to just saying as walk walking as faithfully and basically as you can in the steps of Jesus and interacting with other people and then just trusting that his methods are good, his heart is good. And if you could walk faithfully in those, then his will will be accomplished. Yeah. Jesus didn't try to hire a wagon to carry the cross for him. He just carried it. Okay. That's great. I mean I mean, he kinda he was kinda surrounded by people. I don't know who he'd pay to 'd pay to wagon. I think that one guy did carry like, Simon Cyrene did carry it. But to Emma's point, he did not hire our wagon.
The wagon the wagon came to him. Wagon. Can I I get a wagon? Okay. You ready? Advice time. Yeah. Let's do it. Here we go. Dear, life from the path. I have been in a relationship for two years with a man I love very much. We're both in our early twenties. I have a house. He lives with his parents and is going to school. Mhmm. Last year, after living together for a few months due to COVID, I invited him to, oh boy, I invited him to move in with me.
Oh, no. It took him five months to even give me an answer about whether he wanted to. It's now been eight months since he went back home to his parents. He says he will move in, but won't commit to giving me a date. I've been blown off by him for his family multiple times, and I know it's not something that'll ever change. I'm wondering if we'll last or if I should take a step back in the relationship. Yeah. Let's take that step back. Yeah. You've been together for two years? Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe maybe sit back and think about that for a while. Like, longer than two years. You should think about it even more. Yeah. You know, take a break. I don't know. Each go out to your own little woods vacation and take some thinking time. Yeah. I here's okay. Here's the here's the problem. One, your perspective on this is is not working out for you. Right? You asked a man to move into with you without a promise that he's going to be with you for the rest of his life. This is why we do this is why we do marriage. This is why God puts so much effort and and thought into it and says, look, do not give things away to people that don't promise you everything in return. This is why God set up marriage the way that it's supposed to be. And so he's not if you have to drag a man into a relationship with you, he does not want to be in a relationship with you. And so you've either created a lie on how good that your relationship is, or you're you're purposely subverting your own relationship in the future.
Yeah. Like, the notion of her question is, hey. I wanna move too fast without proper grounding, and my man is hesitating. Are we gonna last? No. He's blown me off for his family multiple times. Hold on a minute. You haven't made him a promise either. So he is with his family as he belongs. And until until someone until someone says, I'm leaving my family and I will spend the rest of my life with you, then his place is with his. That boy is still clinging to his mama. And you should be clinging to yours. Right? Until you guys make some promises that say, look, I'm if I'm gonna if I'm gonna get all in on this thing, I'm gonna give you all of my emotional health, all of my physical health, all of my mental work. Right? Like marriage is hard work. And you're gonna you're gonna say, look, I'm giving this all to you, and I promise I'm gonna do this for the rest of my days. That, madam, is when you invite people to be part of your life forever. That's what that looks like. And anything less than that, you're selling yourself too cheaply. Yeah. And and you're making it so you can't answer the question that you're asking. Correct. Right? Like, you wanna make sure you can answer the question you're asking?
You you know, you get committed relationships and and and you marry, and then you don't have to go, will we last? You promised you would last. That's you got that part. But this yeah. Yeah. You just you you you put all your eggs in the wrong basket, man. Agreed. Anybody else? Yeah. Yeah. She's she's building her her house on sand. Yeah.
So, yeah, take a step back and build it correctly. Yeah. And if it ain't with him, it ain't with him. Right? We only we build in good ways. And if he doesn't wanna build the way that you wanna build or you're not on the same playing field, it's equally yoked thing. Right? Like, back it up. I think actually you're the one that's pushing a little hard here. Yeah. Although, I mean, two years? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, if you're gonna do this thing, I don't understand why dating is so long. I guess I dated my wife for a really long time. So but I probably wasn't doing it right either. I was dilly dallying around, and I didn't know any better. I think you would you do you know after two years if you're gonna marry somebody?
Dan, did you how quickly would you say you knew? Six months. Yeah. Yeah. We were married within fifty one weeks of our first date. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, I'm probably the real loser in this crowd. Okay. Let's move on. I did the previous score. Three and a half years, though. Yeah. But that was, like, high school. Did you did you now with did you feel like six months in that that was the girl you were gonna marry, Dan, at that point? Yeah. Yeah. So okay. So you're taking Dan easily within six months.
I'm sorry. What? So, like, you the the first girl, you thought you were gonna marry too. Oh, I did. Yeah. But that was, you know, whatever. I don't know. Sophomore in high school or something when we started dating. So Okay. I also knew that we'd be in the future. And and so it's a different perspective Okay. Gotcha. When you start dating as an adult. Yeah. Yeah. Nathaniel, how quickly with your lady do think? Yeah. I think probably six months.
Since you since you asked her on a date or since you started leering at her from across the campus? Probably on a date. Okay. Because I've leered at her for probably, I guess, solid, you know, eight months. Yeah. Me too. But she was she was in high school. I was in college. So, you know, just yeah. I just had to build up some some confidence.
Yeah. You know? You're almost there, friend. Almost. Alright. Secular says, if your boyfriend wanted to live with you, he wouldn't have gone back to live with his parents. If he wanted more of your company, he wouldn't blow you off. Holy cow. Oh, yeah. That might be a little too black and white. Yeah. Unless you are a masochist, this romance with him won't last, and you should definitely take a step back in the relationship, if not step out of it entirely.
Well, that's a little aggressive. I mean, you you expect secular out of secular. So Yeah. Secular feeds people what they wanna hear. Yeah. No. That's true. They think you see yeah. Grace, do you think that she wanted to hear a a backup? Or she wanted to hear, yeah, this is gonna work out just fine. Just hold the fort. She wanted to know that she was right no matter what. Yeah. No. That's true. Either way in that in that in her answer, she did give two options. Both painted the dude as,
a doofus. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in love. I'm wonderful. I've offered everything. Yeah. He's a doofus. Yeah. He refuses to commit. Okay. Got it. Okay. Ready? One more. Yep. Dear life from the path. I'm wondering how to handle finding a hair in your food or on your plate while eating at home or even while eating at a friend's. Oh, yeah. I know how to handle it at home. Yeah. Yell at the dog. Who let the dog in here?
Or clip your nose hairs, grandma. I try to prevent it from happening by tugging gently at my hair, pulling out the loose ones, brushing off my sleeves and shoulders before I start cooking. However, once or twice a month, my husband finds one and complains about it, sometimes loudly. Of course, I don't do it on purpose, exclamation point. It embarrasses me and makes me feel horrible and defensive. Should he mention this or let it pass? If we were at a friend's house, I know he wouldn't say anything, and I wouldn't either for fear of causing embarrassment.
Well, you're you're at home. Do have a dog to blame it all? Yeah. Wear a hairnet. I don't know. I don't this has never bothered me. No. I assume it baked. I mean, it went through the oven like everything else. It's probably fine. I house full of ladies. I That's cool with tire. Everything. Yeah. Not a problem at all. All my friends have long hair. So I even there's, like, food and hair all the time. They just pull it out and go nasty and keep eating. And you keep eating. That's right. There's no reason you can't call it what it is. You're like, gross, a hair. And then you eat whatever it was. It's like a surprise. Yeah. It's like an Easter egg. You could in fact, it could jazz up your your dinner. You're like, it's meatloaf surprise. Because most likely, there's a hair on it. Yeah. It's like a it's like a garnish when you can't find any. Like like like, Where's the cilantro at? Oh, I don't have any. You remember when I had long hair? That's a Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I had long hair, I would always if it was one of the benefits of having long hair is if I found some hair in my food or whatever was out someplace,
I'd say, it's probably mine. Alright. Let's go write it off. Probably my long hair. It's probably mine. You don't have to think about who in the kitchen is losing hair. Yeah. Yeah. But it's blonde. My scooch. I like to put it on my plate and move it around as if it's alive. I mean, something up with this one. It's a baby tapeworm. Like a nasty gummy worm? Yeah. Yeah. You're grody. I usually try to find the culprit and put it back on her head.
Say, hey. You lost this. You lost this. Yeah. I mean, it just here here's the thing. You just gotta get over that. Now if he's when you say he's bringing it up loudly, like like, not whispering about it, is it just you two eating and he goes, hey, Barb. I got your I got your curls in my spaghetti. Yeah. Right. He's been he's tearing your food. He's like, there's hair in my food. Like, he's, like, super cartoonish about it or or or, like, he makes a big stink. Does steam come out of his ears? Because, like Turn the food. She seems like she might be so embarrassed. Like, the fact that he didn't whisper it. Like, if he just said, hey, man. Found hair in in my breadsticks or whatever. Like, like, might say that's might be what she means. Like, I'm not sure that he's actually getting mad. Yeah. She she she could just offer to let him start cooking.
That is what I handle. Maybe it's his hair. He probably doesn't have any. He sounds like a bald man. He does sound like one. You have a Should way you get to my at home hairnets like a lunch lady? I would you ask your wife to wear a hairnet? No. No. Would never. That's a good way to get a slap. Yeah. But I don't care about hair on my food. I don't either. I don't know anyone that does. Think But if it's like a big thing for them, you know, whatever. You would you have you guys ever found something like at a restaurant and brought it up? No. No. I've found one? Yes. And you just don't For sure. Yeah. I don't much work. Yeah. It is. And frankly, if you make a stink about that hair, they'll go make you another one in Hakaluca. They're gonna BM into your soup. I don't think they're gonna BM it. That's and it's gonna came from come from the same, you know, cauldron of soup. So it's like I mean Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'd get me the hairless soup this time. We don't even have that, sir. Make a new batch. Yeah. Everything's a roll of the dice.
Yeah. I think I think you do have to just, like, as a human, you just gotta recognize when human things are happening. And, like, even even at a restaurant like, this happened. I mean, a fingernail might be, like, a different story or something because that shouldn't be going on back there. But, like, somebody's hair I'm just not super you do you know how many think of it this way. Think think of how many times you've been to a restaurant, and I've only seen like, every once in a while, I'll see a guy with, like, a beard net, a net over his beard. Do you know how much beard hair you've eaten? Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's gotta be a crazy you ask the Lord Jesus. He'll tell you when you get to share eternity with him. You say, Lord, just tell me. I just need to know how much beard hair, and he's like eighty five pounds. Yeah. No doubt. I've been a I've been a dude a long time. And I go into the dude's room, and that beard net is still on. And so it gets a little whatever splash over is in there, whatever hock this dude's in there coughing or whatever. Like, it's it's a mess in there. Beards are gross, and that dude's beard net is merely for show. Right? It's just like those people who work at the hospital. They're supposed to change their booties out in between going into sterile area and etcetera. Those guys will walk all the way out to the smoke pit, two blocks down the way wearing the same booties and roll right back into OR wearing the same booties. Yeah. And so this is all just to make you feel better as the riffraff of the town that done the thing about you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just,
again, I want you to take this conversation. I want I want you to apply it to all the thinking that you've had over the last year or so with some of these COVID masks in business. Just know that, like, ain't no one following what you think they're doing, and, like, no one's running it perfectly. And some guy probably peed on his own mask and still had it on. Like, these are these are in bad shape. No one is doing what you think they're doing. You're doing all kinds of gross stuff that you just don't even think about. So just just just keep your pants on about it. Yeah. Okay. Ready? I meant it was it stands for bowel movement when I said BMs, Mike. Yeah. I got that part. Yeah. I just You said it was in the soup, which means it's floating in there like a solid part of the soup, which is disgusting. I thought you meant, like, direct messages. You mean, like, like, a baby room? Direct messages. Yeah. I I didn't mean like a lily pad. Look. You need more fiber in your diet if you don't mean to look like a lily pad.
What do you I I don't wanna talk about this anymore, but dad said baby Ruth. It's like carrots. K. I mean, we ain't 85. Dan ain't no baby Ruth. We're done with this. Put it away.
Here we go. Secular says I'm disgusted. Secular says, finally oh, man. Okay. I'm gonna tell you a quick story about my life. It's gonna take thirty seconds. Is that related to to that baby Ruth thing? It's related related to the to the they changed the hosting of the of the seculars. And so now the website that it's on refreshes every ten seconds so it can pop up a McDonald's ad, and it's really causing me the business. So so I apologize for my constant pausing. Here we go. If I can get through it.
Says, finding a foreign object in one's food regardless of what regardless of what it is. A foreign object? Yeah. Like a rock?
Sure. That's true. That's different. There's a UFO in my food. Yeah. Yeah. There's a squirrel in here, fellas. This is gross. Fine. Oh, boy. This is gonna be I don't know what we're gonna do. I can't it won't stop. I can't I can't finish it. The ad, regardless of what it is, can make someone lose his or her appetite. Because it happens regularly, consider preventing the problem as many professional chefs do while preparing food. Wear a hairnet, a scarf, or a hat while cooking. I've never seen Mario Batali with a hairnet. I don't know who that is. They've got those chef hats, though. That does the same thing? Yeah. That's what it's for. This is where takes a turn, though. So it says, or your husband could prepare his own meals.
I mean, he's that upset about it. Well, here's the thing. It's both of these are petty. Yeah. Right? Like, you need to ignore the hair. Your wife cooked you a meal, probably for your whole family as she always does, and you show up with nothing but complaints. Just eat the hair and shut your mouth. And then if you're gonna make a big deal out of it, your wife goes, look, I suppose if you don't like the way that I do it, then you can cook your own meal. But you could take any amount of precaution. Right? Can you put your hair in a ponytail? I mean, you know I'm saying? You got pretty much strapped down tight. Yeah. If it comes loose on the on the on the head end, it'll get stuck in the in the elastic holder that holds the rest of the hair. Seems like a ponytail. I mean, stop stop head banging into the stir fry or whatever. Like Yeah. It's not time to be be listening to Pantera. You know what I'm saying? It's Michael Bolton time when you're cooking dinner. I like to brush my hair while I cook. Leave me alone. I'm never gonna dance again.
It's not Michael Bolton. Yeah. Could be. I don't know if anyone's gonna understand this, but there's this there's this one there's this anime with that, you know, that all apparently the cool kids watch. And the entire way that the main character gets his, like, special powers is eating a magic power hair. Oh, boy. It's ridiculous. Well, so you could convince this dude to like, it's for magic power. You could float. I didn't from the impression I got from what she wrote, I don't feel like the guy's overreacting. I feel like he's probably doing what we would do and going, ew, a hair or,
oh, look, a hair. And she's like, oh my goodness. You're so embarrassing me. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I got from him. Like, she might be a little on the sensitive side about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry about it, Ethel. Like, it's gonna keep falling out. Just it's gonna be this is gonna be all be sometimes he does it loudly, though. Who's writes these columns? Who writes these columns who isn't sensitive, really? That's actually a solid point. No one who would write into this the secular is already not sensitive. I found a poo in my toilet. I'm so offended. Alright. You've been listening live from the path. Thanks for hanging out with us. Don't even look what disdain at the crowd. UBM the soup not five minutes ago. What do you mean? Yeah. You.
It's just what popped into my head. She could shave her head. This felt like a safe place. These are ideas. That's what that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Do you love your husband or what? Boy, that would I mean, that would really send him through the moon. Do you have butternut squash and your husband? Then shave your head. Hey. Nathaniel's take he started with good Jesus stuff heated with the best advice of the night. Hey. You've been listening to Life From The Path. Thanks for hanging out with us. I'll be honest with you. I'm not sure when we're gonna be back. We've gotta we gotta retool the content of the show.
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