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Live From The Path · Season 2021, Episode 18

Rejuvenating Prayer

Recorded · 1:25:40 · 18,281 words transcribed

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Topics covered

Segments

  • Show open: invited guests decline, Sober Soldiers plug 0:00–2:31
    The show opens live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. A host notes he invited three people as guests and all of them said no, so nobody made it in. He plugs the Sober Soldiers recovery ministry (sobersoldierswithaz.com and a Facebook group spelled with a z): the people behind it are doing exactly what they said they would do, encouraging people and pointing them to Jesus, and he wants them back in the studio; he notes their earlier episode had a technical cut about an hour in.
  • Prayer-life funk: the hosts admit it, and a two-day solo prayer retreat 2:31–9:03
    The hosts take up a Christian Post article, '21 things to pray for, tips for a better prayer life,' and start by asking each other whether anyone feels good about prayer right now. None of them do: one is in a rut with only a few stock phrases and no silence or listening; another describes watching God do great things while feeling like 'stubborn Israel' — unwilling to talk to him. A host recounts taking two and a half days in a hotel room alone, lights off, just reading Scripture and praying after an overseas trip was canceled; the agenda he brought in got flipped upside down. Nathaniel, addressed by name, is asked whether he has ever done extended intentional prayer — no, his prayers are 'subpar at best.' They play Family Feud guessing the list: seclusion, a consistent time, praying Scripture.
  • Walking the 21-item prayer list: praise, thanks, and the two boxes of rocks 9:05–25:56
    The hosts walk through the article's list. On 'praise God for who he is,' they wrestle with repeating the same thankfulness without pandering: the generous-grandpa firetruck analogy, whether you need fresh daily evidence of God to be in awe (his mercies are new every morning), and the 'plain Jane doofus' problem of not being a poet — Nathaniel describes praying with his wife as 'I like donuts,' she prays the garden while he prays the back of the cereal box. A riff on Mike's video angle looking like a centaur interrupts. On repeating words, a host points to Revelation's elders crying 'holy, holy, holy' day and night and coins the word 'rewowed' — 'Lord, help me to be rewowed by you today.' On 'thank God for what he has done,' a host contrasts liturgy-as-reading with engaged prayer ('let's not read Psalm 23, let's pray Psalm 23'). On 'remember God's love and grace,' a host tells the two-boxes-of-rocks story: a woman brought two boxes of rocks to a youth group, each rock carrying a phrase retelling what God had done, and his family now writes rocks of their own so that on low days the physical pile proves God showed up. They then rattle through items 4–21 rapid-fire: love neighbors, someone in need, someone who doesn't know Jesus, love enemies, give time/money/energy, pray for church, city and nation, civic and national leaders, kindness, humility, teachability, forgiveness, obedience, a renewed mind, purity, responsibility, courage, hope.
  • What's missing from the prayer list: pray for your prayer life, the suffering church, open doors 25:56–33:25
    On how to use the list, a host suggests one item a day rather than plowing through all 21. They name what the list is missing: praying directly for God to rejuvenate your prayer life — being honest with him like 'I believe, help my unbelief' instead of working a task list; praying for Christians who are suffering right now, with their friend Sarfraz in Pakistan named — money shortages, water coolers for brickyard families; and praying for open doors, boldness, and clarity in sharing the gospel, a theme a host picked up in a college missions class. The segment closes with pastoral counsel to men in the same funk: a weak prayer life does not mean your relationship with Jesus is bad — you are not in the negative, you are missing out on the positive — so drop the dude hesitances and be transparent with God.
  • 'Put Satan in his place in three easy steps': rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks 33:25–51:00
    The hosts dissect a second Christian Post article framing 1 Thessalonians 5:16–18 as a 'spiritual triple threat' (after basketball's dribble/shoot/pass triple threat taught by Adrian Dantley). They read the passage live — 'Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. Give thanks in all circumstances' — plus verse 15 ('see that no one repays anyone evil for evil') and verse 22 ('stay away from every kind of evil') as the bookends the article ignored. On 'be joyful,' a host asks whether 'rejoice always' is an imperative in the Greek; they verify it on Logos and Blue Letter Bible — active imperative, second person plural — then caution against weaponizing it (your kid in a motorcycle accident) and prefer joy as the lens of who you are in Christ over 'put on a fake smile.' On 'pray continually,' a host describes his wife's practice of never saying amen until bedtime — one amen a day. On 'give thanks,' the article cites Ephesians 4:29 (speak life); a locker-room detour follows with Nathaniel's story of the nude old man at the YMCA and Dan's take on high-school locker rooms, then Proverbs 12:18 ('reckless words pierce like a sword') with a 'secular or Solomon' riff. Their verdict: the title is a click problem — this is really 'how to live out 1 Thessalonians' — and the combative posture is wrong: 'Jesus already put Satan in his place,' so they'd rather ask 'how can I honor Jesus in three easy steps.' They reject 'not today, Satan' for pointing at you and prefer 'yesterday, Jesus' — funnel everything up to God, who owns the keys to hell. They note Scripture gives Satan only a handful of verses, the only recorded mano-a-mano battle being with Jesus himself (plus Job's heavenly conversation), and close with the FCA 'Satan shudders' propaganda meme joke and the resurrection 'He's awake' joke.
  • Jerry Jenkins's new book and the end-times arrogance of America-as-bellwether 51:00–57:37
    The hosts cover a Christian Post piece on Left Behind author Jerry Jenkins, whose new novel is titled after his son's hit series The Chosen; they rib him for cashing in on his son's show and joke about his 'mono gifted' line (heard as 'mano gifted'). They note co-author Tim LaHaye's death and Jenkins's 72 million copies sold. On Jenkins's claim the end is near, they push back hard: it is the height of arrogance to treat America as the bellwether for whether the world is ending — the gospel is on fire in China and parts of Africa and in the Middle East. The one point they grant him: no more prophecy needs fulfilling before the end, which has been true for two thousand years (2 Peter 3:8, a thousand years as a day). Their close: the gospel is good news — 'go out and spread the gospel, not go out and scare people to death' — and end-times doctrine is not the bucket to start from.
  • Two prayer jokes and where the word 'devil' comes from 57:38–1:00:59
    Before advice, the hosts allow two prayer jokes, addressed to Mike. Johnny the five-year-old prays daily for a baby brother, quits after a month of skepticism — his mother comes home with twins: 'aren't you glad I quit when I did?' ('could have been seven kids, Mike'). Then the Christian lady whose atheist neighbor anonymously supplies her groceries: 'I knew the Lord would provide me with some groceries, but I didn't know he was gonna make the devil pay for them.' The joke sparks an etymology detour: 'devil' is a translation word — diabolos means accuser/slanderer, as does 'hosatan' — not a proper name; they cite 'your enemy of the devil' (1 Peter 5) and 'give no opportunity to the devil' (Ephesians 4:27).
  • Dear LFTP: engaging the stepdaughter's anxious, silent fiancé 1:01:00–1:05:34
    A listener's stepdaughter is engaged to a wonderful young man of over three years whose overwhelming anxiety leaves him nearly silent at family gatherings; he skips nearly every event and the one holiday meal was painful. The advice: stop pressing him into big family things; start small — a movie, watching a football game, something where he doesn't have to talk; go to his turf (credited as Dan's suggestion); you can't cure real anxiety with love, so try a different tack. A host riffs the Looney Tunes sheepdog who wants to 'love him and squeeze him and call him George.' They push back on the Secular answer (have a serious talk about whether his introversion is a red flag, ask if it's everyone or just the family, whether autism spectrum or intimidation): calling off the marriage over family-gathering anxiety is unfair — but if he can't manage even a one-on-one conversation, the marriage will have real stress and that does seem selfish.
  • Dear LFTP: the 72-versus-78-degree thermostat war 1:05:34–1:19:48
    A listener wants 77–78 degrees in summer while the roommate drops the AC to 72–73 whenever he leaves; the hosts side with the roommate: 72 is normal — HVAC companies are literally named '72 Degrees' — and 78 is 'old folks home temperature.' They dismantle the money argument (fridge, freezer, and dehumidifying all work harder in a hot house; 'electricity hates heat'), and Nathaniel pitches evaporative cooling: hose the house down and let evaporation carry the heat away — it works with free well water (a host notes Ben has two wells), and they plan a test on the 'Abe Lincoln' shed with the kids and a thermometer, calling the local expert tomorrow. Tangents: smart thermostats and government suspicion, power-company 'nasty grams,' homeschool daytime use, Independence Day 'no peace' impressions, and a car-climate war with the wife (full fan at 60 vs windows down). The pastoral counsel: preference is fine, but don't assert an unreasonable preference on the whole household — shut your own vent and live uniquely if you're the odd one out. The Secular answer: have the adult conversation; whose name is on the lease — and if no compromise, the two are incompatible: 'it's you, 78 degree man.'
  • Outro: complaint line, house-temperature poll, iTunes milestone, benediction 1:19:48–1:25:37
    The outro plugs the Bob Eisenlauer complaint line, (515) 517-0085, and asks listeners two things: what temperature they keep their house (summer and winter), and any prayer requests — 'prayer on prayer' included, which the hosts will pray through together. The 21-things prayer article is on christianpost.com. The hosts note the show finally appeared on iTunes with reviews — this will be about episode 200 on the platform — and thank listeners for reviewing; asked whether they reviewed it themselves, Mike, Dan, and Nathaniel each say no. The episode closes with the standard benediction: 'be faithful in the means; God will handle the ends.'

Bible references

  • Revelation 4:8

    the elders standing around saying the same thing all the time… God doesn't get tired of holy holy holy

  • Lamentations 3:22-23

    his mercies are new every morning

  • Psalm 23

    let's not read Psalm 23. Let's pray Psalm 23

  • 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

    Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. Give thanks in all circumstances for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

  • 1 Thessalonians 5:15

    See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.

  • 1 Thessalonians 5:22

    stay away from every kind of evil

  • Ephesians 4:29

    we need to use our words to build up others, bringing praise

  • Proverbs 12:18

    reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing

  • 1 Peter 5:8

    Your enemy of the devil

  • Ephesians 4:27

    give no opportunity to the devil

  • 2 Peter 3:8

    one thousand years is as a day, and a day is as a thousand years

Key questions

  • How is your prayer life right now? (host-framed)
  • Should a struggling pray-er plow through all 21 prayer prompts at once or take them one at a time? (host-framed)
  • What's missing from the 21-things-to-pray-for list? (host-framed)
  • Is 'rejoice always' (1 Thessalonians 5:16) an imperative in the Greek? (host-framed)
  • Where does the word 'devil' come from? (host-framed)
  • How do I get to know my stepdaughter's anxious, silent fiancé and make him feel welcome? (dear-lftp)
  • How do I talk to my roommate about the thermostat without coming off as a control freak? (dear-lftp)

People

  • Ben
  • Dan
  • Mike
  • Nathaniel
  • Greg
  • Sarfraz
  • Johnny
  • Adrian Dantley
  • Jerry Jenkins
  • Tim LaHaye
  • Joel Osteen
  • Bob Eisenlauer
  • Mike Danker
  • Satan

Full transcript

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the path. And you're listening to Live From The Paths. Going to you from the Pathway Studios in Johnston, Robert. Here's what got. We got a lot of stuff to do on the show tonight. We gotta cut to the quick of this

So we got a number of we got a number of articles to get through. What do you what? Hey. I mean business. We're we're we're gonna do this show correctly. Stop your cat or walling. No. Ain't no orangutan ball. No. Continue continue on. I'm excited for whatever the date. Hey. I I tell you what, though. I invited, like, three people on, as guests to the show tonight. Hey. They all said no. Nobody nobody's here. Nobody made it in. Yeah. I don't know. I gotta I gotta inject new life into our our our guest people. Although here's the thing. It's like, think I'd really like to we really wanna have sober soldiers back in here. Yeah. Those dudes are completely

I shouldn't say all dudes. Dudes and ladies. They're completely legit to what they said they were gonna do. And so, like, they let us sign up for it to be part of their Facebook group. And I can tell you, these these dudes and ladies are constantly encouraging and, pointing people to Jesus. And, they're legit. They're they're doing exactly what they said said they were going to do. And so I think when did we have them on? Like a month or two ago? Yeah. So I I think that that was one of the shows where we had, like, some kind of weird technical thing, like, an hour in or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And some of got cut. But, I'd really like to have them back in. And if you get a chance, go did the website out yet? Did I see that? Is the Their website's out. Yeah. Okay. Is it sobersoldierswithaz.com?

Yep. Okay. Sobersoldierswithaz.com. And, really how I connect with them is through, Facebook. If you search them, it's sober as it is, colloquially spelled, and soldiers as it is modernly spelled with a z at the end, on Facebook. And they're they're just they're very good in in recovery ministry and helping people who have been struggling and, seeing their life in only one direction. They're very good at taking that direction and giving them support and encouragement back to Jesus as as as the only way out of this deal. And so, if you get a chance to check those guys out, please do. Yeah. Totally agree. Alright. Here's what we're on the show tonight. Article. Sparta. 21 things to pray for, full colon, tips for a better prayer life. Oh, boy. Okay.

Hold Hold on. I should ask. Does anybody feel like they're doing real good about this right now? No. I'm I'm decent. I mean, that's that's a hard who could ever say, yeah. Yeah. I'm good. I'm solid. I mean, there's always more. Dad's walking the line of humility but boldness. I don't know. I feel like when I I feel like when I'm when I'm doing this well, and not like the act of doing it well or like I chose a place or serene or whatever, I kept a prayer journal, stuff like that. But like when when I focus my time to talk to God, when I'm doing this well, I don't feel like we're like it's awkward or like I'm a stranger here, you know. When I'm not doing it well,

I go through rhythms that I always used to have or that I always carry with me. And for some reason, it just feels like I have a really hard time focusing on on God. Right? And getting my mind clear. And maybe maybe some of these tips will help. But like I have a couple things that I that I used to do that really used to help me focus on who I'm talking to, the the weight of of of the deity that I'm dealing with and and everything that God has done for me. And, if I'm speaking honestly right now, I'm I'm kinda in a funk on that. I feel like I said that I'm not connecting very well. And, some of that is certainly on my end. So, anyway, it'd be, Ben, how you feel like you're doing here? Yeah. Not, not not super great.

So I I feel like I'm getting in a bit of a rut about it, to be honest. Like, I I've I've got the key eight words or so that will pop up. And so I'm just scratching surface. And I think it's just frankly, I'm not spending any particular time in in silence or listening or basically that that breaks through that initial, here's the stuff that just easily rolls off my tongue

to get kinda beyond that and start getting into some of those the deeper, the less than surface y things. And so it's a time it's it's some of it's a time allocation issue. Although, I I I feel like I feel like one of the risks that we run is that we make dedicated

time on the peripherals of the day as if they are an implicitly the the the holiest way to go about something, as opposed to can we find ways to that things are more integrated in our lives as a whole? Like, can I get to a place where I can pray deeper but also more consistently throughout the day as opposed to saying, look, if I don't get my hour, then it wasn't then my relationship with God isn't good? Right. Like, think that so I I that's where that's actually been kind of on my heart both for me, and I think specifically

for the guys in our church, something I've been thinking about and and trying to pray through. And but so that's where I'm at too. And maybe it's just a personal struggle that then lands on everybody else. Who knows? But that's that's that's I think where I'm at. I I just went away. I'm supposed to right now be on a plane, like, returning home from overseas. We're gonna do revivals and stuff. It it didn't happen because of COVID. So I figured I had this two week period blocked off. Maybe I told you this last week. Can't remember. So so the first week, I took two and a half days, two nights, and just left town. I got a hotel and just prayed.

And it was really cool. It was like I mean, was like I left the place once three times, think, the whole time. Yeah. And the lights were off and it was just dark and I was just reading and and, you know, Bible on my iPad and and praying. And it was pretty phenomenal, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was kinda cool. Do do you find that so so Dan, you your pathway where you're the pastor, because semi like regularly do like twenty four seven prayer rooms. Did that feel different to you in this instance in some way or in or another? It did. It did because I had some specific things. I I was

really going in with kind of an agenda and got it kind of flipped upside down and said, have a different agenda. And it took me the full two days to to admit it and and grasp it and really hear it. And then I wrote down a bunch of notes and came home and been acting on it. So Yeah. Yeah. It's been yeah. Pretty pretty pretty actually phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like and Nathaniel, have you done that? Have you feel like you've had a time or or times where, like, you've gone and done intentional prayer over kind of an extended period of time, either after something specific or just kinda made that commitment in general? No. Not really. No. Do do you is it something you've considered?

No. Not really. No. I'm gonna be honest with you guys. No. Because Jesus never, you know, left the crowds to pray or anything. Yeah. My my prayers, I would say, are subpar at best. Yeah. Subpar Yeah. By a lot. You know what I you know what I find frustrating? And this is actually what's happening in in this time period of life for me, is I'm watching God do, like, really cool things. Mhmm. And I feel like I'm not part of it because I'm not I'm not you know what I'm saying? I'm not spending, time talking to him. And like he's he's doing amazing things around me. And I'm like, just don't I I feel like a a stubborn Israel the middle of this thing. Right? Like I'm watching you do great things. And then I'm over there going,

I mean, I believe it and I know you're rocking this thing and I and I nothing has changed. I just, I can't be bothered to talk with you. Mhmm. I just can't be bothered. You know, I'm like, man. And like, it's not like, you know, your face gone or anything. I just got no I got no fervor for it. And there's been times when I've had some fervor for it and it was the best. It was the best. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely loved it. And so like, I don't now you know like, we've talked about this before is I can look I used to just look at Israel and go, you daft fools. I just don't understand how this could keep happening to you, you know. And then now I look at you daft Mike. I I I don't understand how this could keep happening to you. So anyway, whatever this man has come up with in 21 steps is obviously gonna rectify whatever is going on here, Ben. Yeah. He's gonna fix it. Okay. Alright. Alright. Hold on. Let's let's let's dig on the article. Well, any guesses? There's 21 things in here. One guess a piece. What do you think is on the list? 21 tips for a better prayer life. Yeah. Michael, like, what what name one thing for the Family Feud, what you think is on the list? Seclusion.

Give me seclusion. Yeah. Okay. Survey says, Dan, a consistent time. Okay. Consistent time. Nathaniel. Praying the scripture. Oh. Speak the words of the Lord back to the Lord. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Here we go. Do you ever find a blah blah blah? Okay. I don't care about the setup. Here we go. If you're in a hurry, just use this list to jump to a specific prayer idea. Number one, praise God for who he is. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I missed That takes a while. The premise of the article.

I could be reading some Psalms. Yeah. I thought it was gonna be like a how to, but more it's like you're gonna pray. Here's ways to kinda get you guided in the right direction. Yeah. This is talking about, hey, prayer can feel stale or dry. It's talking but prayer is talking with someone who loves you deeply, knows you intimately, so it might be hard to admit or deal with when the conversation has seemed to dry up. But everyone goes through these times. Each item on the list comes with a verse from the Bible to shape your thinking. You know what? I I find my prayers that when I do though that I mean, I've tried to do that before and it's like I'm I'm it's like I'm using the same words. It's like how how many ways to describe cool clouds, God. You're really neat. You know what I mean? Right. I I try to be like, oh, yeah. It's like, because I don't have the words. I don't have David's, you know, silver tongue. I'm like, your ways are majestic. Does it feel weird? Because like the longer you know somebody, the less you talk about very obvious things. Yeah. Right? Like and so, like, it feels like our relationship with with Yahweh should be different.

And I don't know I don't know in what way though. Like, I know it should be different, but, like, it feels pandering to repeat the same thankfulness even though it's still true. Yeah. Right? Like, it'd be like it's like you have a very generous grandpa and like, hey hey, sorry, Mike. Yeah. Go ahead. Look at this camera angle that we have of you right now. Yeah. It makes me look think that you're like a centaur. Like the but is that the one with the horse body? It look like it? Yeah. It does not. It does.

What's something a centaur would say? I don't know centaur knees. Give me They approach us, sire. Yeah. They approach us. Do you have any apples? Does that do it? I'm gonna put the triangles away, but still yeah. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I didn't I didn't want Can I fix it? I don't wanna continue to look like a centaur. No. This this one's a little bit better. This one doesn't show cut off at the waist like you could be a centaur, but we don't wanna admit it. So so we're talking about our our relationship,

with Yahweh being different in the way that we talk to him opposed to, like, our buddy. You know? But, like, I won't continue to thank my generous grandpa for the firetruck he gave me when he was eight Yeah. When I was eight for, like, the next twenty years. But you're always very generous. You remember when you gave me that fire truck? You know I'm saying? Like and so, like, it it does and maybe that's a personality thing, like, with just me or dudes or whatever, or maybe it's a relationship with God thing. But, like, does let me ask you this. This will probably be to my shame. Does God give you enough evidence every day for you to be in awe of who you're speaking with? You mean, like like fresh evidence? Like like you mentioned the sky yesterday. Right. And so well, I If you well, it's maybe if you're looking for it.

Or is that an oversell? Like, we're looking for we're looking for inspiration in the smallest of things and and sometimes, like, the life is life and, there's responsibilities and you get drugged down and you just don't have a whole lot today. No. I think, I think the answer is yes, but not necessarily new as in brand new, but new as in it continued. Like like when you think about where it says, like, his his mercies are new every morning. If I were to think back in the previous day in the ways of which I have been shown mercy, that was fresh

even if the thing was repeated from the day before or something like that. And so I think but but, like, brand new, like bold ideas that I'd never consider considered that he is either creator or merciful or orchestrator, I no. I don't know that that's my experience. Do you do you think that maybe some people fall short of their prayer life merely because they're not a poet? They don't talk like that. And so like, you know, sometimes you listen to someone else pray and you're like, man, I wish I had the conviction of that guy or the heart of that lady and like the the the constant focus or whatever. And then like you go to pray something similar and you're like, I thank you for the or that I'm working. I appreciate my job. You know? Or like, I thank you for the kids I got. And like there's no poem to it at all. You're just a plain Jane doofus. You know? And like and and maybe you're you're creating a feeling in there that doesn't actually exist. Right? You're not gonna be the David of the conversation, you know? What was it? What was that? I feel that way a lot with it when I'm praying with my wife. I feel like she's always got good things to say and and a lot of a lot of stuff to to think about and pray about and says it pretty eloquently and then it comes my turn to pray. And I'm like I like donuts. God, thank you Yeah. For the donuts. Thank you for this woman. She prays

the garden, you pray the back of the cereal box. Yeah. Yes. It's like, I agree with everything she just said. Yeah. What I find that my wife even takes in like, she's the type of person that will wake up and look at the sunset and that that connects her with God. Like, that means something to her. It reminds her of creator God and majesty and things that are bigger than her, and it provides her comfort. And, like, I walk out the door and go, man, it's bright out. Yeah. Like, I just don't Wish I brought my sunglasses. Where's those sunglasses I stole from Mike? Yeah. I'm not in awe. I just like and I think it's just a dude's

way of looking at it. Like, you just don't I don't take stock of like, yeah, it was there yesterday. He set it up. I trusted it. It's good. We're good. Can we move on from the sunset? I think I use the phrase in my prayer, I don't know God. You know the deal. Like, way more often than I should. Because I feel like I don't have to I mean, do we gotta rehash this? You were there. I was there. I don't know what, you know. I could re tell it as if you weren't there, but I seems We both know you were. Well, because because I think when I get into something like that, it does feel like it's just me trying to see whether I can come up with a clever way of saying something. Like, if I have to explain this situation that I was in or that that obviously I'm aware that God saw and isn't a particular burden on my heart, then I I do feel like I'm performing a bit. And so I don't like it. Yeah. And so I try I tend not to shy away from that kind of thing. Okay. Go back to the list. Sorry. Okay.

Let me let me go let me go back. What was that prayer? Didn't we where where are we gonna buy a prayer cube from Joel Osteen that would do this for I I it I don't know how much I should share. I work at Amazon. Mhmm. And I was I saw some guys stowing those. He had a whole bin of them. Oh, really? A whole bin of prayer cubes and Joel Osteen prayer cubes? Yeah. He was putting them away. So you're saying we could order one right now and probably have it tomorrow. Probably. Maybe need three hours. They got the vans roll. Okay. This goes back to what we talked about that day. We should do the Life From The Path prayer cube. Obviously, there's a market for it. It was consistently more negative in nature. Yeah. Yeah. More reprecatory. Yeah. Definitely.

Like, hey, did you just did you did you not admit to being in all the sunlight? Yeah. Repent. You're a dolt. Hey, can we come back to repeating the same things all the time? Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about this. So the picture we get in Revelation though is the elders standing around saying the same thing all the time. So should we think about it a little bit differently? Because, like, if if God doesn't get tired of holy holy holy and the elders don't get tired of holy holy holy,

should we get tired of holy holy holy? I don't know. I know. We know they do it all the time, or that would just happen to be the time John, oh, they're singing a holy holy holy. It came during holy holy holy time. Maybe they do maybe I heard John's the risk. As soon as John leaves, they take off the robes and go back home. We're just assuming. That's all there is. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought it said specifically day and night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I think it does. I think it gives it's it's certainly intended to give you the impression that, like, this is happening and it is worthy of like, God is worthy for it to be happening all the time. That he lives can live in a chorus of this. Yeah. Right. So can you imagine your life being rewowed by God's presence

on the regular? Not did not you just got done going holy holy holy, and we're gonna take a breath a breath or whatever, and you look up and go, holy holy. Like, again, you are rewowed by the whole thing. Right? That is our future relationship with the king of the universe. Right. I guess that's the thing. Is that like if you are constantly like if it's if it's if it's real, if it's not something it's not wrote necessarily, but like you're like hot breadsticks, man. I'm a say this thing again because I believe it and I feel it again. That feels differently than something that feels like you're just saying the things. Like, I I will pray I find that I pray in the shower a lot. Oftentimes, like, especially Sunday mornings,

I'm praying for church that day. Like, you know, you know what I've read. You know what I'm thinking. Change it now where it needs to change. This kind of stuff. And frankly, I walk out of the I generally get out of the shower with a much better sense of what I was going to teach in an hour or two than than I did before I got in there. But, like, if I'm not careful because I pray most of the time, like, when I get in the shower, it starts to just like it does it follows a a pattern and I'm not in it. I'm not paying attention. I'm just talking at God. I think you could use the exact same words engaged and and it's fine.

Like, it it's really because when it becomes I I and you know, I don't like, we've talked about this before. I don't mind patterns and rhythms and and and repeating things. I don't mind notions of liturgy. But as long as you're engaged in it, as long as it isn't just you just reading words, like, let's not read Psalm 23. Let's pray Psalm 23. Don't just read and and see if you can remember the Lord's prayer. Like, if you wanna pray that same prayer three times a day like a good Jewish boy, I'm in. Jesus would've. But like, he's probably engaged in it as opposed to just saying it. And so like, I think that actually is where the the rubber hit meets the road there. I feel like I'm gonna add that to my prayers of, Lord, help me to be rewowed

by you Yeah. Today. That's legit. Yeah. That's legit. Okay. Go back to that man's list. Okay. If he has rewowed on there, I'll slap a wet noodle. I'm not I don't want to encourage that either. That's a phrase. People use it all the time. Just Gerard, just to make sure I'm prepared for this, did anybody bring a wet noodle? No. You gotta make it. That's why it's a big deal. You gotta buy it, make it, then get it out. That seems like a real okay. Here we go. To so praise God for who he is. Thank God for what he has done. Okay. Yeah. That's that helps barometer your way back to

opposed to taking minor stock in the day. There are broad truths, not only for his grace, mercy, and forgiveness of your sins, but like the fact that your, you know, your your family is here or what, you know, you or they have a job or you're supporting your you know, you have a life to support yourself and you have community around you and all that kind of jazz. Yep. Yep. Agree. Alright. Three, pray that you remember God's love and grace for you. Okay. Give me a good give me a good perspective. Help me not actually, I think it's a big one for me just in general. Not and then I could maybe it'll broaden that out just a little bit of of of remembering, of not living today as if the previous days in my walk with Jesus Christ didn't exist.

And and remembering at times when I have been awed and wowed and encouraged and emboldened. Actually, I was listening to a past show trying to clean up we're talking before the show started. I'm trying to clean up some of the titles of the show, so like it's just doesn't just say the episode, like, may describe what's going on in there so you could find it if you wanted to. And so I had to maybe listen back to one on the way here, and we were talking about a time, like, week a number of months ago where I was feeling just a little bit discouraged as a pastor. And, like, I had a really, really good week. Like, God's I I felt like sent people to encourage me, like multiple people mentioned something that we had that they had learned over the last number of months or within the book. And I remember I found those free Fox's Book of Martyrs on the trash day. Yeah. And I felt like the Lord was for me that week.

And to be honest, had I not listened back to that show, like, the thought of that particular week of where I needed encouragement and God sent some, I would have just forgotten. It would have been gone. Yeah. And like, I just feel like we're we're fickle like that. And so remembering at times when it's when it very seems very prescient that God is not with you, being reminded of the times when he was. And like, boy, I tell you what, boys. This this would be a thing the the the way to be a solid friend is if I could let me let me I'll put it to go in the other direction. If at any given time, one of you guys could come to me and say, Ben, I'm feeling discouraged. Remind me of a time when God was with me. And I knew it. And I knew it to share back with you. I knew all my friends' stories or at least some key ones that if you were to ask, I remembered

you talking about that and could share it back with you. And like that requires that you would have shared it to begin with, but like, boy, a community where you could look at anybody in your community and go feeling low, can you remind me a time when God was with me? And they have something that's not just pithy and it's not just shallow, but it's like, yeah, remember this time. And you're like, yes. Thank you. So I had a it it was the it was the best, youth group that I had ever had. And we we'd invited, like, people from our church to come in and just tell their story, how they got to know Jesus, you know, up to from basically from birth up to this point, what their life looked like and and how they got to know Jesus, you know. And I I I saved this gal for the ender because she's always the ender. And so, I asked her to come in and she was, and I said, you know, I I you're the last one so so just know you can say whatever you want. I'm sure you're gonna do great, you know. And she totes in two boxes of rocks. And,

she sets them down on the counter and both all the kids there's like 20 kids there looking at her and she goes, pick one. And so every kid went in there, took a turn picking out a rock, and it would say a phrase on it, and and then she would retell the story of what God did. And and it was that day, that I was reminded that I don't keep very good track of all the ways that God was faithful to me, was overly generous and blessing to my family,

and, took care of me and watched me. And like, even some of those rocks, I mean, I know her personally, some of those rocks were kind of painful. Right? But she's like, they all tell God's story and they all say what what God has done in our lives and he showed up. And like, there was a lot of rocks there, you know. And so like, like that day, I talked to my wife and my kids and like, we started doing this intentionally. We started writing on rocks. I'm like, I I love this. I I don't know how else to keep track of this. My my fickle mind will lose it. Yeah. And so like, when God even even in in small things. Right? Even when we took we got to take a vacation that we really needed and we're able to look we'll we'll pre we'll go back and do a rock because like the week after horrible, you know? And and we're like, well, I feel like I feel like God gave us a rest before we walked into this, and that was very generous at him. We better get a rock. And now on vacation, we grab rocks in anticipation

that like we're gonna we're gonna write one when we get home because this is what God did. And so like, it's very cool after a while to have a physical representation in your house of all the things that have God God has done. So even when you're feeling low and disconnected, when you got 50 rocks on a table and you go, I'm not really disconnected here. I'm just not remembering. Yeah. You know, and so like I I, you know, I would encourage anybody to do that. It's I know it seems kinda weird. But I'm telling you, it it's a blessing in spades not only to start keeping a little bit better track of of the times that God literally showed up in your life to do something, but, the it keeps your your gratefulness up, your generosity towards other people up, and your overall disposition of God hasn't gone anywhere. He's consistently here. See, I have these, you know. So, anyway, I would really encourage that. It just reminded me I should do that when I get home, for the prayer stuff. So yeah.

So number four, pray that you would love your neighbors. Yep. Five, talk to God about someone in need. Six, pray for someone who does not yet know Jesus. Yeah. Seven, pray that you would love your enemies.

Boy, these are these are heavy ones. Eight, pray that you would give your time, money, and energy. Nine, pray for your church or Christian community. Hold on. We're gonna keep moving. Pray for your city and nation. Pray for your civic and national leaders. Pray for kindness. Pray for humility. Pray for teachability. Pray for the ability to forgive, pray for obedience, pray for your mind to be renewed,

pray for purity, pray for responsibility, pray for courage, pray for hope. That could keep you busy. Yeah. So let's let's say someone's struggling right now and and and wanted to take a swing at this list. Would you recommend that they try to plow through all 21 at once? Take one a day and focus on it, for a day? Yeah. I think that's helpful. I mean, here's the only thing I would well,

so without thinking about this as finger shake or a critique, is there anything missing from here that jumps to your mind right away? Because I had one. Let's start with yours, and then me and Nathaniel will follow-up. Okay. So,

like, one of them I think is just is is praying for God to rejuvenate your prayer life. Like like, praying for the direct thing. Like, these are this becomes like a bit of a list, a task list to say, oh, here's what I can do if I can't think of anything. But like, at its core, to the extent that, like, nothing's running into like, I'm having some of this issue, I feel like focusing prayer on God, I I'm asking for you and your your spirit to rejuvenate

my heart and my desire to pray for you. Because, like, I think you can you can have it look better. You can have it look and feel better this way. But, like, I also not and I think it's okay. But I I I just I I don't know if I wanna dance around it with God either. Like, my direct problem right now is I'm not feeling super motivated. I'm not particularly engaged. I'm I'm not very committed or passionate about this aspect of my relationship with God.

And of of all the ways to to to fix that, I feel like being honest with him about it is probably my first start. And so, again, it's just slightly different than what the list was after. And so, again, don't take it as a critique on the list necessarily, but, like, that was one of them that jumped out of me. Kind of a I believe, help me, believe. That's right. Yeah. That's right. That's right. I know I've it's even it's kind of it's kind of like a conversation you might have with your spouse on just saying, hey, man. Like, something doesn't feel right here. And, it seems to be maybe it's expressing itself in in we're ordering we're arguing about small things and we're doing, we're nitpicking at each other or we're not talking to each other in the way that we always do. And so let's just let's just ignore all that for right now and just say, like, something feels like it's not connecting right now. What what do you think? Or can can can you help me? I don't know why I'm feeling this way. Now with God, like, obviously, relationship is is different.

But, like, I mean, just go for the thing. Maybe just start for the thing as opposed to what some just slightly can feel like, hey. I can't think of anything. How do I how do I think of stuff? It it just in case there's something else that, like, you need to pray on and then listen for a minute and you find that you're stuff is just blocking you. And that, like, there could be sin that blocks you, to be honest. Like, it's it's not just our prayer lives don't stagnate just because we can't think of anything. Like, in fact, just listening to this list, if you think to yourself, like, how could I possibly act like there's nothing to pray for? Like, what level of arrogance goes? You know what? I'm pretty good here.

I don't know. I can't think of it. I'm good. My whole family's good. The world's doing cranking around alright. Nothing to be thankful for particularly, but nothing I really need. Thanks, Jesus. Like, it's not you know that's not the case if you took any time looking at the world. And so I just I wonder if there's something else that might be causing things to be stagnant outside of I can't think of anything. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. You guys think of anything else from the list that would jump out at you or that might be missing? You talk about praying for

other Christians who are maybe suffering right now. Did I miss that one? No. Well, he said pray for your church or Christian community, but I think what you're talking about is a little bit different. So, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. And I like that, specifically because I think it it it reorients you to, like, if that time you're saying, hey, I can't think of anything to pray for. When I start praying for, our friend Sarfraz in in in Pakistan, like, he's up against all kinds of things. He's like, money shortages is a deal. Hot not being able to provide water coolers to people or the the families that work at the Brickyard is a deal for him. And, like, I've got a a whole set of things I could be praying for Sarfres about, and it starts to it removes me from looking at the world only through my own guys going, well, boy, I just wish I could come up with something. Right. To talk to the Lord of the universe about.

Mhmm. Okay. Dan? You know, I I always think back to to college. It's probably the first time I really heard this and I remember it was in in a missions, I think, class. But but he brought up the scripture that that like the apostle Paul said pray for us to have open doors to share the gospels. That that often is a theme I'll think about if I can't think of something to pray about, pray for open doors, but also for boldness and to speak clearly the gospel. Yep. So those are like all all all that all that has to line up together. If you have an open door and don't speak, well, what good was it? And if you speak but there was no open door, oh, what good was that? So kind of those three thing together. Yeah. Things together. Yep.

Okay. Alright. 21 things. Hey, if you're if you're if you're struggling with this a little bit, like with your with your prayer life, and I don't know again, there's just dudes in the room. So, like, our experience tends to be filtered through dude type problems. But, you know, I one, you're you're you're not alone. And I'm like, I'm don't be careful on evaluating

your prayer life as saying, how was my salvific relationship with the Lord Jesus? Or like, do I not trust him and I it's just being reflected in my prayer life. Like, sometimes how we handle relationships doesn't necessarily reflect how we feel about those relationships. Like I I think you've been there. I think every dude at some point or other has been on the other side of an accusation of not being super talkative with his wife or as open as he could be or or that kind of thing or or excited about longer conversations.

And so you know what I'm saying? So just be careful to not over crank on that. It it doesn't mean that things are that your relationship with Jesus isn't bad. It just means it can be better. Yeah. You're missing out Yeah. Is what's happening. You're not it's you're not in the negative here. You're just missing out on the positive. Right. And there's no reason to.

And and and then some of that causes you to have to relieve, like release some of your dude hesitances and be part of more open oh, shoot. I don't wanna say open relationship. That sounds bad. I mean, more transparent. Yeah. Okay. Transparent

relationship with God. And and allowing the surfaces to be scratched a little deeper, you know, and finding some way to articulate it. So anyway, whatever. We'll we can be praying for you with that. Just pray for us. I think we're working on it. Everybody in the room's got it. Dan's had a sweet experience lately. He's doing the best. Yeah. So but obviously, like, I think there's there's clear and tangible value in,

in having this be something that you continue to mature in in your faith. And so, if this is a good call and reminder to do that, then, please take it as such. Okay. Now similar, suggested article related to this this one on the Christian Post is how to put Satan in his place in three easy steps. Oh, three easy steps. Yeah. Finally. Oh, boy. Okay.

When I was 12 year old aspiring basketball player, I heard NBA Hall of Famer Adrian Dantley teach about basketball's triple threat. I learned that when you first received the ball, you were in a great position with three potential options, dribble, shoot, or pass. I wouldn't soon forget the power of the triple threat, and it changed the way I played basketball. I am not a good preacher. Listen here. People who do this well could take any example and go, I'm ready. I'm gonna teach you how to deal with Satan on dribble, shoot, or pass. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, see, they tell you. As followers of Christ, oh, no. Here we go. We can be a spiritual threat every day. This will change the way we live. Our opponent, Satan, wants to defeat us and take us out. He doesn't want us to win, and he is working overtime to make sure you and I are discouraged and overwhelmed. He wants us to believe the goal of life is to just survive, get through one more day. But in one Thessalonians five sixteen eighteen, Paul gives us a great spiritual triple threat. It is simply this, be joyful, pray, and give. Okay. First Thessalonians five

16 to 18. We should probably read that. Okay. Hold on. Is it at the top of the article? Yeah. Here we go. I'll just oh, shoot. My Internet doesn't work. You have to do it for me. K. Hold on. What was it again? First Thessalonians five sixteen to 18. K. Hold on. Read.

Oh. But I want my feedback right now when I'm trying to give a I'm trying to look for the first Thessalonians. This is a compelling radio. I'm sorry. I can't I can't help the way the the app works. First Thessalonians five sixteen through 18? Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. Give thanks in all circumstances for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Do not quench the spirit. Do not despise prophecies, but test everything. Hold fast what is good. Is it mean, is there anything before or after that one that puts that in the context that this is how to defeat the opponent, Satan? Verse 15.

This is how you defeat Satan. Oh, do I feel? Rejoice always. Pray without no. 15 is let's see. What are we what's even talking about? Final instructions and a benediction. Oh, yeah. You just seal it up. Yes. Repain the evil for evil. That's right. See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone. Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. Give thanks in all circumstances. I think I'm gonna be disappointed in the title of this article more than its contents. And then 22 says stay away from every kind of evil. So there's eve it's bookcase between evil. Yeah. Right. Okay. Evil and evil. Yeah. Threat number one. Pass it. Triple threat, put Satan on his heels. Number one, be joyful. Paul says to be joyful always, not sometimes. It would have been easier to live this out if he wrote be joyful, not be joyful always. Always seems impossible. Unnecessary semicolon. Sometimes it's more realistic. This is just this is flat this is a normal place for a comma.

Okay. This is a command that instructs us to be full joy all the time. It's like saying you will do life with joy in your heart all the time. You got it? I wonder, is is it an imperative there in the Greek? I mean, is it a command or is it I mean, it's like yeah. It's Joy is a fruit of the spirit. It's something you don't do. It's something that happens. Right. That's something that we pray the Holy Spirit for. Yeah. I've tried to do it on my own. It fails terribly. Like, I'm really gonna be on top of I'm be joyful. Joyful today. Yeah. It goes I mean, it's How about I don't block joy? Yeah. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's how I look at it. I understand in the way of joy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I like where you're Dan. You know what? It's funny though. I like that it's like, that's the whole verse.

Yeah. Like the Thessalonians five sixteen, rejoice always. That's it. Dan, I will see how how can you tell how can you tell whether it's the imperative? Let's see if I can I don't do enough Greek on my phone? Yeah. Is everybody else doing research here but me? Yeah.

Oh, hello. Just for just for people who better than active imperative second person plural. Imperative then. And what Oh, what app do you use to verify these kind of things? Logos. He's in the Logos. Yeah. Then you use I'm a well, I'm using Blue Letter Bible. I'm also on Blue Letter Bible. Yeah. Yeah. Cairo. Okay. Alright. So be joyful. Joy is more than happiness. It is at the core of our soul. Joy is internal and happiness is external. Happiness can come and go, but joy is here to stay. It comes from knowing our identity in Christ. God gives us joy. I'm about done with this guy's semicolons. Do not let anyone or anything rob you of the joy that God has placed in you. We should experience joy all the time, succeeding or failing, winning or losing. Now now I hear this. I hear Paul saying this, but like,

this this the way that he's describing this, I feel sets people up to to maybe misunderstand. Uh-huh. You're because like at what point, hey, we should have joy all the time. Hey, man. Your kid just got in a motorcycle accident. You should be joyful right now. Like, I'm not sure that's what Paul is is saying here. Right. Like, I I I feel like you could overturn this knob and misunderstand what the what the point is. I think he's talking he's painting with the broad brush. And I think it does mean it means that you

should continually be reminded of who you are in Christ Jesus, and that should be a lens of which you take the world in and your circumstances. I think that's right. And I think that is harder than than give what we give a credit for. I just I just wanna be super careful that we're like, joy is internal. Like, you have to willfully will yourself to have some notion of joy of how you think about joy in the midst of what is obvious pain, obvious weeping with those who weep. Like, I just I I I I just wanna be careful that you we don't over Yeah. It's not saying put on a fake smile. That's right.

That's right. Yeah. Winning or losing, happy or sad, yeah, I just succeeding or failing. It's because we have a hard time distinguishing between happy and joy. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not sure it's as easy or clean as we teach it either. Like, to say happiness is external, joy is internal. Like, again, I I think I think some of that's it's a simplistic way of saying it. I think it's helpful to say, even if I don't feel happy, can I still take the world in through this

the reminder of who I am in Christ Jesus? Enjoy. Be reminded of the bigger picture of which then changes why, my lack of external happiness. Yes. I think that's okay. And and it it sniffed very close to right. I I just I think you can use it wrong. Guess, maybe that's my hesitancy here. I think you can use it wrong. And if people misunderstand what it is to be joyful and confident in who you are and and thankful for what God has done while being subject to human

very human circumstances. Maybe that's it. Threat number two, pray continually. Once again, Paul makes an extreme statement. If it is if instructing us to pray was not hard enough, he had to attack on the extreme word continually. You might be saying to yourself, I pray just not all the time. Paul is saying that we should always be connected to our maker with constant access to the throne of glory. There should always be a prayer in our heart and on our lips. Many times, we just pray when we need something.

A prayer principle that has radically changed my life is prayer is not telling God what he already knows, but God revealing to us what we do not know. Our goal is not to give God a report through prayer. Trust me. God does not need updates. What he wants for us is to dig deep and find out what is below the surface. Yeah. I'm with this wild haired man. No updates. Yeah. Mike Danker, man, needs to take a break. Yeah. Lord, I need to tell you about this thing that went down. So my my wife does the thing where it's like she starts a prayer out in the morning time and then she don't say amen until she goes to bed. So like she just continually I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she doesn't like to do the five minute prayer or whatever at lunchtime and say amen. She just lets it float out and then goes about her day. So she says, good morning, Jesus, in the morning. And then she says, amen one time a day. That's it. I like amen one time a day. I think that's great. Yeah. One time a day, amen. Yeah. Threat number three. None of these

like, I this this is what I said. I'd be disappointed. I think he's just this is an article click problem. You put how to put Satan in his place in three easy steps. And really what you're saying is, please read the letter from Paul and do what it says. How to live out first Thessalonians. That's what that's what we're talking about. It's his hair that grabs people in. If a dude with a short buzz haircut would have gave the same advice, you're like, I don't think so, dude. Yeah. But this man looks like he lives on the wild side, has a helicopter probably. Yeah. Yeah. I bet he does have two maybe two helicopters. Why would a guy need two helicopters? That's what people said, but how do you know the Lord blessed him? Oh, yeah. One helicopter is pretty strange. Can get that on your own. Hey, man. You can get that off the eBay. Two helicopters. That's a blessing from the Lord. Yeah. It is. That's a that's a south wind. Threat number three, give thanks. In all three threats, Paul uses extreme commands. First, it was it was always, then continually, and finally, it is all. Just like in Ephesians four twenty nine, we need to use our words to build up others, bringing praise. When we speak, we either speak life or death. Giving thanks means speaking life in every situation, full colon, in the locker room, classroom, home, on the phone, and even in text message. I like that the locker room brings out the worst to everybody. Like I had a locker room talk. Like, as soon as people get in there, all of a sudden, all morality goes out the window and it's nothing but profanity and nudes. Why

is that? Don't know. I guess, as for fellows who go into locker has that been your experience? No. I immediately try to keep to myself in all aspects of whatever's happening in there. Nathaniel, do you find locker rooms to be a den of iniquity? No. When I was going to the YMCA in the mornings, there was one old guy in me who would always cross paths, and he and he would conversate with me. Yeah. Oh, the how's the weather today? We're gonna be a scorcher.

And while he was completely nude. Yes. Completely. Yeah. That is and and and that I think we've discovered that after a while, that's just what comes with being an old man. Yeah. Your your give a crap is out. And you're like, I will stroll around this in the boardwalk and here we go. Yeah. And yeah. I it eventually came to light that I worked with his son. Oh. But his son was 50. This dude this dude was old. Wow. So okay. But not but let me say, hey, locker room talk. Just know that most dudes are going, what's the weather like, Sam? Or what's corn by the bushel? Maybe that's an Iowa problem in the locker room. I'm just telling you. It's just not instant butt slapping and dirty jokes. That's not been my experience in the locker room. So Now you were never on any Dan, you were on sports teams in high school. Right. Would you find that to be a den of iniquity? Yes. Okay. Dan Dan A lot of bragging, and you never knew if it was true or not. Okay. And Yeah. Okay. I own six brand shirts. No, you don't, Steven. No one owns six brand shirts. Conquest of cheerleaders and things like that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it really it just depends on the time of life and the group. Okay. The one the Young Men's Christian Association locker room isn't the same. It's much toned down. Yeah. Okay. Especially at 06:30 in the morning. Yeah. People up that early don't have time to be talking all that smack. Proverbs twelve eighteen says that reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing, secular or Solomon.

When you speak, do you bring healing? No. Is Satan threatened by the way you talk? So here's the so I'm gonna tell you say this. I much would prefer that you would posture obedience and faithfulness in scripture as honoring and following Jesus than trying to take some kind of stab at a opponent that Jesus doesn't give a lot of time a day to. I can it's just a wrong way. Like, I I totally get the not today, Satan. But, like, how about yesterday, Jesus? Like, I I just it feel like it's oriented much better because it wouldn't the not today Satan just, like, points at you. It points back to you and goes, hey, I'm gonna be a butt whipper today, boys. Yeah. I so I I always struggled with it because people would come up to me like that. Satan's really after me, these last couple days. I'm like and I always struggled with that because, like, my first reaction is, I feel like you're not that important. That Satan himself is coming up to do battle one on one with you. I've only seen him recorded in the Bible as doing battle, a mano a mano with one entity. Right? And it was Jesus himself. Right. Demons, maybe. Demons, maybe. Yeah. I ain't taking that off the table. Ammony. I mean

was that? And the first I mean, that was that was a big one. Yeah. That was the one I He conquered the first humans. Do you well, I guess, is there do we do we see a picture of him any any other time? Yeah. Don't know that we do. Yeah. I mean, those are those are big moments, though. Yeah. He shows up for the birth of humanity. Let's cause sin to infect the entire everything. Yeah. So that's really big one. He shows up for Job. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in heaven, he's talking to God, though. Yeah. That's true. He's not, like, tempting Job, enticing Job with, like, rudimentary

pornography. Yeah. Right. Look at that rocket. Look like a boob. Job is off the path. Did not require an example, Mike. Look like a boob. This ain't no Palestinian locker room. I'm sorry. I let it get a little blue in here for a minute.

Okay. So in either case, you were saying people say the Satan's after me. Yeah. And so, like, I I I think you more I I more need to empathize with with how they're feeling right now. They're not feeling rejuvenated, attacked, alive in the Lord, full of joy like Thessalonians says. But I think that it is it really is just a conversation that I think starts to lend too much power to Satan. Right? Like Mhmm. When God says, when Jesus says this is done, it that means it's done. Right? Like, and his name alone will cover this. And so instead of you armoring with your it's just like when we're trying to get joy, you're only capable of of Mike's level of joy or Dan's level of joy. Right? You're also only capable of Mike's level defense or Dan's level of defense against

the the opposer. And so, like, you you're just you're just rooting it in the wrong place. Right? And this is our goal as Christians anyway. We funnel everything up. Everything goes up. The good stuff, the bad stuff, the scary stuff, our anxiety, the depression, the worry, all of it. It all funnels up. And so when you start to stand on your own, that's how you end up being Israel again. And walking through deserts and going, oh, we got this we got this covered. Like, you don't got it covered. You know better. And you're gonna screw it up and realize you tried to do it again, and that's what you lay your armor down and go, you know, I bought this stuff at a garage sale. I gotta be honest. This is the best I had to do. Right. And so like, it's I I think I'm with Ben. I think it's just a a wrong thought. Like, the Bible over the whole. I can't remember what it's it it like denotes, like less than like six, eight verses to Satan on the whole. Right? His name shows up like barely at all. And so like it's something to be dealt with, but it was always gods to handle and gods to deal with. And so we funnel up and let God fight things that Satan can't bust through,

right, if God's on the on the armor. Yeah. Like I might say, like, if the article says, how to put Satan in his place in three easy steps, I feel like my gut reaction is Jesus already put Satan in his place. How can I honor Jesus in three easy steps? I I it's just a it's just a I I think it's just a better orientation. I think it just points you away from good things. One, you don't have a suit on. I know. He looks so he looks good. You don't have Philip Ramsey hair. Yeah. Also a problem. And three, you under use semicolons. He's got a big forehead.

No. His his hair has to support it. The forehead has to be bigger to support Oh, yeah. If you're gonna build the temple, you gotta have strong pillars. You gotta have foundation for some guy. Yeah. I was wrong on that. I shouldn't have said that. Shoot. What's the what's the tail end of three? Three was, I love working with the FCA because we have volunteers, donors, board members, coaches, athletes, and staff who wake up every day and live in such a way that when their feet hit the floor this is so cliche. Fits hit the floor in the morning, Satan shutters and says, oh, no. They're awake. Oh, dear. No. No. Guy was right this guy was writing memes in 1983. Before they were popular, he's saying stuff like this. No. I'm sure. Now here's the thing. That shutter happened one time, and that was that was when the stone moved. And he goes, oh, He's awake. That was it. Yeah. There you go. That was it. That that happened. Not Nathaniel's up.

Yeah. Hold tight. I'm gonna make a shake and some peanut butter eggs, and then I'll be right with you. Peanut butter eggs. Opponent. Okay. They live out the triple threat every hour, every day, every week, every month, and every year. I am humbled and honored to this is an FFCA propaganda. Put Satan on his heels today. Our opponent will do everything love and serve Jesus today. Our opponent will do everything to prevent us from being a triple threat, but it's what God's called us to do. There are family members, coworkers, friends, neighbors, and teammates who are depending on you to be joyful. Pray continually and give thanks.

I know why we're saying these things. I just wish you wouldn't. Yeah. We just need to reorient it. Like, there's nothing wrong with being energized and on fire for the things the Holy Spirit is doing. Right. Which is all the things he just listed. Yeah. Right? But like, we're we're followers of Jesus Christ. We're not on the defensive ever. Yeah. Right? We're not on the defense. We're not hiding behind anything. Yeah. And so, like, it's just a weird posture to think, oh, no. We're gonna get outflanked by by Satan today. It's not gonna happen. Right? You put your you put your faith in the he the creator of us is the creator of Satan, and he owns the keys to hell. And so, like, Satan's got no he's just got no power here. Right? He's got power to to to give to people who wanna take it from him. Right? To take what he's offering. Very much the same as Jesus has. Right? Jesus offers you these things and it's your option to take it or not take it. But you're not gonna accidentally become part of one of the devil's schemes as you faithfully keep your eyes on Jesus Christ. That's the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Alright. Let's do I I had a couple other. Hold on. No. Not that one. One one. Here we're gonna do. Left Behind author Jerry Jenkins talks new book, Fatherhood and Why He Believes We're in the End Times. So that's we're just gonna cover that one spot. Okay. Because I'm interested. It's been a while. And, like, to be honest, the theology behind the Left Behind books has waned in popularity a bit since it was originally written. The co author Tim LaHaye died a number of years back. And so Jerry Jenkins

says believes the world is close to the end as described in his popular biblical end times fictional series Left Behind and has penned a new novel titled after his son's hit series, The Chosen. Hey, man. Who? His eldest son is the writer for The Chosen. No kidding. That crazy? Oh, he's doing a great job. Yeah. Let's see. Jenkins has sold 72,000,000 copies of his Left Behind books and says he'll continue working because he believes the world is experiencing some of the scenes fleshed out in his left behind series. Continue working because he wants to continue to make money. That's why he will continue working. Actually, he wrote this is funny.

He said he's written nearly 200 books with 21 of them making the New York Times bestsellers list, and he has no intention of slowing down. He says, well, I don't see any place in the Bible that talks about retirement. That's true. And at the risk of sounding falsely modest, I really think I'm mono gifted. But he said mano, like m a n o. What like mono mean? Well, I think he meant, like, singularly. Like, he says, I don't sing or dance or preach. Writing is all I do. So like, But like, mano gifted. I just I'm not seeing that. Like, mano y mano? Hold on. I don't think the Internet's slow. It's not gonna show up. No. It's gone. Okay. Anyway,

he says, we're getting pretty close to the end. I think we have more reason to believe that now than we ever have, Jenkins said. It seems like something's coming. This is all solid biblical theology. You just wonder how long God can carry us as sinful and restless as the world is. That's the worst theology I've ever heard in my life. I just don't know how much longer the creator of the universe can bear this up. Certainly, will cave under the weight and the world will have to end. Yeah. This is stupid. Yeah. And I don't know I I mean, you're you're ignoring broad parts of the old testament where we talked about societies that had fallen completely out of any type of recognizable order or any sense of morality at all. Yeah. Right. Like, I I I it continues to be the false look at the world that says, hey. Things are way worse now than they've ever been. They used to punish people by putting them in a sack and making a bunch of starved cats go in there with them and then throw the whole thing into the pond. And so while the guy drowns, he also gets scratched to death with some dying angry cats. Yeah. Like, it is the it it it doesn't seem this way, but it's it's the same height of arrogance that makes you think that America is the bellwether on whether,

the world is coming to an end or not. Right? It's the same height of arrogance that says, yes, America is God's country and we are the the only place Christianity spreads, runs, and rocks. And the same guy gets turned around and say, but judging by our cultural society right now, the end has got to be near. There's a a giant world to consider. The gospel is on fire in China and in parts of Africa and in The Middle East. Right? And so like, we are not the entire bellwether wherever you live and whatever neighborhood that you're in of exactly how biblical times is gonna is gonna throw this thing down. Like, that's that's also a bit arrogant. Yeah. So now he's gonna say something that that we, I think we can agree to here. Let me finish this paragraph. On the other hand, God has a different economy of time than we do. He wrote in the Bible two thousand years ago that the end was sooner imminent and that we should watch and wait. We've been doing that all these years. He continued, the Bible also says that God to God, one thousand years is as a day, and a day is as a thousand years. So if he waits one more day in his mercy, that would be a thousand of our years. It's overly little reaction. But check this out. Yet, I don't think there's any more prophecy that needs to be fulfilled before the end. So it could be today as well. And I thought, we're back in business, Jenkins. Yeah. I actually agree with that. It's just been true for two thousand years as opposed to whatever weird list of things you've come up with over the last, you know, hundreds or something. Yeah. I here's the problem. Yeah. Read that next sentence, and then we'll round it out. The seventy one year old novelist stressed that all believers have a mission to share the good news regardless of how bad the time has become. Yeah. So once again, it just like the Satan conversation, I just think it's a weird bucket to start from. Mhmm. Right? To be like, the end is near, change your ways. The good news, the gospel as, Christ described it was

salvation for all man. That your sins were put to rest and the world will be made back to right. That is the good news. You're starting with kind of the bad news when you're like, look, this is all gonna come to an end. God said Jesus said, go out and spread the gospel, not go out and scare people to death. If that was effective, he'd have done so. Right? And so I just feel like it's it's a weird bucket to start from. I think it's a it's a a whole scope theology that, like, you should have some understanding of the end times. God put it in there for a reason. He had John write a book about it. It's worth taking in. But like, it is it is certainly not the bucket to start from. I think this is kind of funny that his kid his kid has run like a really put together a really cool television show. And then his dad went and wrote a novel called The Same Thing.

Doesn't it feel like he's trying to cash in on it? How I raised the guy that wrote The Chosen by Jerry Jacobson. House City wrote 200 books. Most of those were the Left Behind series, aren't there? I don't know how many books are the left behind. Write 200 of them. I don't know. Now it feels like that. If you go to any, like, a Goodwill or other thrift store, it'll appear that he's written 200 books about Left Behind. I think of the the 21

best selling, like, New York Times ones, I think, like, a good chunk of those are Left Behind series. But that means he's wrote in written a 180 stinkers. Yeah. 100? I'm gonna go back to what I said a few months ago. It's like, who wants to write a book at all? Yeah. You know? I mean, Jenkins. He says there's still there's still money in it. He makes a hit TV show based on the life of Jesus Christ, his son does. And then Jenkins turns around and writes a book about how his son wrote the TV show. I would just rather watch the TV show. Yeah. That's where I'm at on that. Yeah. Is it about is that what it's about? What was the name of it? No. No. The Chosen oh, yeah. It's going now. Jared Jenkins. The Chosen. Something about The Chosen. Yeah. But it was it's not like about the show at all. I think he's just taken the name of the show and used it to, like, encourage people. Yeah. Yeah. I give that a hoof. Interesting. A hoof. Okay. So we're gonna do advice, but hold on. I got there's a couple prayer jokes. No. You get one. They got two. No. Yeah. No. Too much too much prayer. This is gonna be great. Everyone loves these jokes, Mike. We get we get accolades on the on the Bob Eisenhower complaining. It never happens. People say, hey. Tell me more wholesome wholesome humor. Johnny, a very bright five year old, told his daddy he'd like to have a baby brother. And along with his request, offered to do whatever he could to help. His dad, a very bright 35 year old, paused for a moment and then replied, tell you what, Johnny. If you pray every day for two months for a baby brother, I guarantee that God will give you one. Oh, Johnny responded eagerly to his dad's challenge and went to his bedroom early that night to start praying for a baby brother. He He prayed every night for a whole month, but after that time, he began to get skeptical. He checked around the neighborhood and found out that what he thought was going to happen had never occurred in the history of the neighborhood. You just don't pray for two months and then whamo a new baby brother. So Johnny quit praying. And another month, Johnny's mother went to the hospital. And when she came back home, Johnny's parents called him into the bedroom. He cautiously walked into the room, not expecting to find anything, and there was a little bundle lying right next to his mother. His dad pulled back the blanket, and there was not one baby brother, but two. His mother had twins. Johnny's dad looked down at him and said, now aren't you glad you prayed? Johnny hesitated a little and then looked up his dad and said, yes. But aren't you glad I quit when I did?

Hey, old. Could have been seven kids, Mike. It could have been a could have been a Duggars. These are the kind of jokes happened at the FCA locker room. Yeah. Okay. Fine. This is the second one. Final one. It combines both, prayer and devil. There was a Christian lady who lived next door to an atheist. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Where's the where's the word devil come from? Why do we say devil? I don't That's not in the Bible. Is it? Yeah. It is. Yeah. It is. No. But it's not the that's not the that's a that's a translation word. Right? Well, yeah. That was transliteration. I don't I don't know about that. Okay.

Your enemy of the devil, first Peter five. Yeah. What's that word in first Peter five? Is it is it the satan? Asatan? Okay. But you are you taking it? Yeah. I can give no opportunity to the devil. Ephesians four twenty seven. I'll look it up. Keep reading the joke. Okay. There was a Christian lady who lived next door to an atheist. Every day when the lady prayed, the atheist guy could hear her. He thought to himself, she sure is crazy praying all the time like that. Doesn't she know there isn't a god? Many times while she was praying, he would go to her house and harass her, saying, lady, why do you pray all the time? Don't you know there is no God? But she kept on praying. One day, she ran out of groceries. As usual, she was praying to the Lord explaining her situation and thanking him for what he was gonna do. As usual, the atheist heard her praying and thought to himself, I'll fix her. He went to the grocery store, bought a whole bunch of groceries, took them to her house, dropped them off on the front porch, rang the doorbell, and then hid in the bushes to see what she would do. When she opened the door, saw the groceries, she began to praise the Lord with all her heart, jumping, singing, and shouting everywhere. The atheist then jumped out of the bushes and told her, you old crazy lady, god didn't buy you those groceries. I bought those groceries. Well, she broke out and started running down the street shouting and praising the lord. When he finally caught her, he asked what her problem was. She said, I knew the Lord would provide me with some groceries, but I didn't know he was gonna make the devil pay for them.

Diabolos. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I yeah. I don't know how we get the how you got the how we got devil. But it's the same thing as the it's the accuser. The culminator, slanderer, the accuser. That's all it means. Yeah. It's not a proper name. No. Right. Just like Hosaton is not. Yeah. Hosaton is not proper naming. Yeah. Okay. Advice. Dear, live from the path. My stepdaughter is engaged to a wonderful young man she has been with for more than three years.

We welcome him as part of our family and are excited to have him as a son-in-law. However, due to his overwhelming anxiety, as my stepdaughter explains it, he barely says a word whenever we see him. In the several years that have been dating engaged, he has joined us for only one family holiday meal and conversation was painful to say the least. We have invited him to many family gatherings, large and small, but he seems to have an excuse not to attend each one. I very much want to get to know him better and make him feel welcome, comfortable, and loved as part of our family. But his silence, lack of eye contact, and his apparent desire to avoid us make it very difficult. Any advice? What's that? What's that cartoon where that big giant kid is always like, will love him and squeeze him and call him George. George is my friend. I love him and squeeze him Call him friend. That's what you see back. He's like a sheepdog, isn't he? Like you're grabbing this tiny fellow and you just want to over squeeze him and over love him.

And I don't know. I mean, this seems kinda out of your business. I don't know. If he's got I mean, they're gonna be his son-in-law. I I'd say, do do little things. He's inviting them big family things. Yeah. Right. One on one. Just go out with with your daughters. So there's a security there. With them or something. Offer to watch a football game with them. Yeah. Yeah. Do something where he doesn't have to talk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go to a movie. Start small. Yeah. And work up. Yeah. I think there's a yeah. Obviously, your family sounds pretty hip and and grandiose, and you like to do big things and celebrate and whatever, and I think that's awesome. He just ain't he ain't cut to that rug. That's just not that guy. Or he's a a shady criminal. I don't know. So the advice is is don't it's just stop pressing the matter. Or Well, not small. Ignore it. Yeah. Just start small. Just just I mean, be intentional.

Yeah. You're not gonna cure anxiety. You know I'm saying? Like, if he's got legit anxiety, like chemical imbalance anxiety, you're not gonna cure it with your love. That's not how that works. So yeah. I think you're gonna have to try a different tact. Yeah. I agree. I think you just start small. There's no reason like you can't you can't presume that just throwing them into the deep end is gonna teach you how to swim or or anything. And so

yeah. Start small. That's it. That's the genius. I agree. Yeah. Stamp it. Secular says, you are overdue for a serious talk with your stepdad. Yeah. Yeah. Lay down the law. Hold please. Yeah. Have you ever asked her if she knows the reason for her fiance's lack of social skills? Yeah. Accuse you. Anxiety. Is he this way with everyone or just you and your husband? Could it be on the autism spectrum or feel intimidated by your attempts to make him feel, quotes, comfortable and loved? His extreme introversion may be a red flag because it may have negative repercussions for her if she marries him. What? She's willing to put the the the marriage at risk because the guy's got a little bit of of anxiety about hanging out and with the families? I think that's unfair. I mean, like, if if he can't do one on one relationships or even have you, you know, watch a game with him or go to a monster truck or whatever the guy likes to do, that's solitary. Like, let's say you just wanna go for a walk in a field or something that makes him feel alright. If he can't even do that, if you can't have a conversation with him even on a one on one thing, I mean, it's gonna be really hard, like, as they marry and have kids, you know, he's gonna have to opt out of all things. It's gonna it's gonna create stress and and and problems. Not to say that the guy doesn't have any possible way of rectifying the situation, but like, if he knows he's that way, that seems kind of selfish.

To be honest, if I'm the dude and I'm like, look man, I am taking medication for it or I'm choosing not to take medication for it. I want you to live a life completely next to me and whatever you do outside this house, I will not be going. I didn't is that the impression we got? That he's like that? From the parents point of view, yes. Or maybe it's just with them. I thought it was just like like bigger get togethers with them. What did they Not that like, hey, I won't go anywhere with my with my significant other. Well, they've been together for several years. He has joined us for only one family holiday meal Yeah. And conversation was bad. We invite him to many family gatherings, large and small, but he seems to not attend any of these.

Right. So it doesn't speak to any of those. Maybe he goes on long walks next to the fountain all the time. Maybe they just don't like them. Maybe he don't like the parents. Yeah. Yeah. That's a tough situation. Go visit him. Like I said, that we're in all the things proposing that he come out to whatever they're doing. Yeah. That was Dan's suggestion. Find find something small to to to start out with them and see what's what. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, take his turf, I guess, is what's the point. Okay. Airline from the path. How do I talk to my roommate about the thermostat without coming off as a quote's parent or a control freak? Yeah. Yeah. Holy cow. I prefer the thermostat to be set at 77 to 78 during warmer months. But every time I step out the door, they turn the AC down to 72 or 73. Makes the house feel like you could hang meat in here. The kicker is it's 80 degrees outside. I don't think the unit even needs to be on. Not only am I concerned about the electric bill, I'm freezing in my own house with pants on. I know

is the goal to not have pants on? I know this will become a problem because we're expecting temperatures in the nineties for weeks at a time and the cost of electricity rises with the heat. I'm tired of playing the game of adjusting the temperature and not saying anything. Advice? Who I I didn't catch it. What's the makeup of the house? There's like roommates? Yeah. Yeah. And he's trying not to be the old man in the group. Oh, he is man in the group. Yeah. Yeah. 77 to 78. That's

a hot box, man. I'm gonna tell you the same thing I I have to tell my loving wife. When you let the temperature get that hot in your house, your refrigerator has to work even harder. So everything in your house that you're currently paying electricity for to cool, like the freezer, the fridge, the deep freeze, whatever you're using, fans you gotta be spinning around, this all costs money. By the time you accumulate all that together, you can run the air conditioner down at a reasonable 72, which is comfortable. And your appliances aren't sweating and doing terrible. Your air conditioner also pulls humidity out of your house. Right? It's doing a double thing here. It's not only cooling the air, it's pulling some of the moisture out of the air, which also causes all of your your appliances to have to work harder. So you could take the money thing right off the table. I don't think that even counts. So you say run it at a reasonable temperature for all these scientific reasons. Nathaniel, is he selling me a bill of goods? That sound right? What are you saying? Yeah. It sounds right to me. Okay. Also, if you got, you know, wood in there, you don't want it all precipitated with moisture. Gotta You get that humidity out of there. Preach on, Nathaniel. You're gonna ruin your wood floors. Wood floors? I suppose computers you're running. Desktop can be like anything any electronics that are that have to stay cool, obviously, have to work harder when you keep your house at a hotter temperature. Electricity hates heat. Remember that. Electricity likes cold. Electricity does not like heat. Now, Greg Go ahead. You can wear a sweater, grandpa. Yeah. 72

is not hanging meat temperatures. No. That's a that's a mean, they're Ridiculous. There are there are there are heating and cooling companies that are called 72 degrees because that is the, at least, mostly agreed upon temperature which people are comfortable. Yeah. Optimal. Yeah. So for you to act like it's like an Eskimo season in there because they running it at what people normally put it at, Yeah. You're over you you're gonna look silly. Yeah. I mean, you're just gonna struggle for trying to get popular opinion here. I thought you were gonna be like, they crank it down to 65. Okay. That's egregious. Right? Like, no one needs it that cold. But 72 is considered reasonable with a with a, like, a 30% humidity range at your place. 77, especially for people that work outside. Like, I could work outside all day and it's, like, 90 degrees and I show up at my house at 78 degrees, I'm spicy. I'm sriracha. I don't I don't understand why it's so hot in this house. Like I bought I bought a house and I bought an air conditioner

and and you're trying to frame it and make it like a picture here. And I wanna use it. I want it to run. I want the fan spinning and I want coolness to be shooting out events. And it's not that expensive. It's not really that expensive. And like, I suppose it depends on what major market you're in where the electricity costs rise with the temperature, like Uber, like surge pricing. Yes. Yes. I mean, they they do base your electricity bill based off this hour to this hour. So actually Peak? Yeah. Off peak usage. So if you were smart, here's what you do. You get yourself some batteries and you get off the grid during peak hours, and then go ahead and get back on the grid during non peak hours, and you would pay fantastic electric rates. Or you just get yourself a chiller and cool down the water during off peak rates, and then circulate that water through your house. So that that's what's doing the cooling rather than the electricity. That's also not a bad idea. There's a lot of ways to get around this opposed to your what I appear I just flat out disagree with you, sir. I flat out disagree with you. Your roommates should get a lockbox and put it around the the thermostat and get a a key and keep it away from you. Now Yeah. I mean, is there a path to peace here that says they like 72, he wants 78? Can everybody live at 74, 75? No. That's too hot. No

peace, only war. You could always that's right. There's no peace. They're totally like the independent Independence Day where they got the thing around that doctor's neck and he's like, no peace. You know what I'm about? Yeah. Yeah. Do, unfortunately. Okay. You do the same impression to see if it's better. No peace. I think that's pretty good. Dan, do you do one? It's like when he's behind the the window and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What did say? No peace? Yeah. I have to touch touch my throat.

No peace. Okay. Nathaniel, you're looking to smoke. You do it. I don't have one, but I'll try. Okay. No. No. Man. Okay.

Note to self. When Nathaniel says I don't have one, he means Do not press that, man. Yeah. That's what he thought about this. Yeah. You sounded like like six six banshees altogether in a chorus. I don't know how he did it. Okay. So there's there's no path to to reconciliation. He either he either has to decide to live in luxury like everybody else and put a sweatshirt on or move out. The rest of the world thinks '72 is fine. Do you complain at the bank or at your school or at your work or wherever you go? No. The rest of the world is piping in at 72? Now I will tell you that I feel like old ladies do that. Like, old ladies just assume the temperature should be to their liking wherever they go. Oh, maybe you have bad circulation. That's what was gonna say. They have no circulation. That's a problem. Maybe you got health problems. Yeah. Go see a doctor. Yeah. Before you start swinging swinging gullies at your roommate here, I think you you have something wrong with you. 78 is not a reasonable temperature. That's old folks home temperature. Yeah. Get some yeah. Get some either get some white lace ups and a sweatshirt or get some room a deal and some and some chiropractic adjustments. And hold on. I'm not done Turn your room into a sauna. Yeah. And second of all, the the 72 degrees doesn't feel cooler when it's 90 out. It still feels like 72. It's the same temperature. It's a relative reading. Right? Like it doesn't change the hotter it is outside. And so I just I don't I don't understand. You just said when it feels hot outside, you like to come into a cool house. I said when you work outside all day, you don't wanna come home and be hot as well.

Yeah. But the the What I'm saying is is like when it gets hot, it's gonna get it could be in the nineties next week. Yeah. And like but if you leave the thermostat at 72, it's gonna feel like the same as it always feels. Oh, yeah. He I think his point was, but because the outside heat attempts to encroach, it's going to be, more effort to keep it at 72 and cost him big money. I'm gonna tell you something else that's true with these like, especially with the the fancy thermostats that are like, hey, when I'm away, let this temperature get up to 78. So, at some point, it's easier to maintain the 72 than it is to regain it every six hours. Right? Like instead of running the thing, short cycle in your air conditioner all the time

and and keeping it keeping it at 72, if you let the house to get to 78, you have to overcome that stat six degrees again. And it's less energy just to maintain it at the temperature that you want it at, instead of having to battle it all the time. Do you say that smart thermostats lead you astray? It's for the government. Like The government. Like they're trying to keep an eye on you? No. They want you to start to use less electricity. Oh. All under the flag of energy efficiency, but really it's more money in fat cat's pockets. I get nasty grams from the energy company all the time. They're like, you use like 80%

more electricity during the day than everybody else on your block. But here's the deal. I homeschool. We're home during the day. Like everyone else leaves and uses the with this intelligent thermostat that turns everything down. I'm like, this we live here. Yeah. What kind of what kind of business is this? It's like the guy from the apple cart going, you buy three times as many apples as everybody else. This needs to cease. Yeah. Aren't you happy, Apple man? We got wind towers spinning all over the place. They should be happily shoveling electricity your way. I don't know what they care. Yeah. I don't understand this energy industry. We're like, you're right. It's the only purveyor of a good who then shames you if you use too much of what they're selling. How many Snickers is that today? Yeah. Right. Like, how do we get I'm from the Mars company. We think you use too much of our product. We'd like to sell less. You're the worst businessman ever. Also, if you wanna cut down your energy bill, you can use evaporative cooling rather than your Will you stop introducing expensive cooling options? No. This isn't expensive.

I mean, it depends on whether you got a well or not. If you have a well, it's way cheaper. True. If you don't I have a well. Okay. So here's the here's the principle is that your body, in order to cool itself, evaporates. And it's way more efficient than using electricity. So what you do is you spray water on top of your house,

and through evaporative cooling, your house gets colder. What do mean? I I like I take a hose and I just hose my house down all the Yep. That's it? I don't have to do anything else? Well, it'd be most efficient if you took like a thermography gun and see where your hot spots are in your house and just hose those particular parts off. Yeah. Well, Mike, is he lying to me? Can't tell. I can go outside tomorrow. It's gonna be hot tomorrow. And I just hose my house down every what? Few hours? Yeah. And then and it's and without running the air conditioning, it's gonna stay cool. Yeah. Just put a sprinkler up there. It'll be cooler or cool? Cool. I don't know about that. I've seen no business cooler than this. Yeah. Because the water's expensive. But if you have a well like Ben

I have two wells. He's got two wells. He's got water plenty. Dos well anos. He could cool his house for. Okay. So so we're just gonna set up now. Do you do it on the roof or do you do it on the siding? Both. Are you setting me up to make a fool? No. You're gonna do a YouTube show of which Ben look at this dumb thing I told Ben to do. He's out watering his house. Ben got punked. I don't if I if I Google this, will I find, like, I mean, non ridiculous looking forum nerdlingers talking about this? Is this a legit premise?

Yeah. Let's call Kevin Carson right now. He's asleep. He's an old man. Yeah. Okay. I thought though have you ever heard of a swamp cooler? Now they use swamp coolers at major businesses. Yeah. Same principle. Evaporative cooling. I thought that's what they I thought that was a brand of men's underpants. Woah. Woah. I don't shop at those stores.

Okay. Okay. Hose house down with water. Whole house? Whole house. How much water? It's gonna be a lot. I mean, like, how much? I don't know. I haven't liked you gotta run So basically, you turn the sprinkler on. You put a sprinkler on all four sides of the house and just let it shoot it all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Then it evaporates and it and it takes the heat with it.

And you think that's cheaper than running an air conditioner? If you if you have free water like Ben does. But you're paying the pumps to to pump it. I guess. I mean, but how much, you know, how much is a is a pumper on that? Are you I guess you'd have to do the calculation. I'm a You should have started with that. You should have started with you might have to do the calculations, but here's an alternative idea. Yeah. That is not what you did. You showed up with so this is the fixed everything. I'm gonna water my house tomorrow. That's what I'm gonna do. Actually, I have a shed. I have an Abe Lincoln shed.

I'm gonna water that Abe Lincoln shed and see if it cools it down. Okay. That's That's a much smaller building. We can do a test on it. Yeah. I'm And gonna Just have the put the kids in charge of it. Have them go out there with the hose every forty five minutes and reshoot the shed. Yeah. Go water. And stick a thermometer in there and see how we do. Go water to the house. Well, you're on trial tomorrow, Nathaniel. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Well, I got a there's a hole in the shed at the moment. I can't don't have them Don't water in the shed. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Segular says, the question was, I'm tired of playing the game of adjusting the temperature and not saying anything. Advice? Segular says, stop pussyfooting around and having an adult con discussion with your roommate about this. If possible, a compromise should be worked out. Whose name is on the lease? Is it yours or both of yours? That sounds like, that's not a compromise. That sounds like a heavy hand. Yeah. Is the cost of heating and cooling the unit shared equally? If a compromise can't be agreed upon, it's possible the two of you are incompatible, and one of you needs to make other living arrangements. Now I'm a tell you this. It's you. 78 degree man. Okay. I need to leave. I'm gonna I'm gonna

I'm gonna sit on the couch. So no joke. Yesterday evening, my wife and I spent an excessive amount of minutes talking about something very similar, and it had to do with getting in the car. So, like, we get in the car and it's hot in the car. We have our car. You can control the climate, both passenger

and driver side and front and back. Mhmm. Unique. K? So I I burn that thing. You can it's got a temperature on it. You can get it as low as 60. And so I get in the thing. I'm full fan 60 degrees. My wife's at, like, 69 when she gets in there or likes to do like, two fan. Two two fan out of five. And so, and the kids, want full, full air in the back. Well, at least one of the kids. Everyone else is agnostic. My wife goes, I want the windows down, and then, like, turns off all the airs and runs all the windows down. And I said, hey, man. We got you can you can control it in the different areas. I can do mine. You can kinda do yours. And that that would it didn't we we didn't get it worked out.

We we didn't get it. She wanted the windows down everywhere. Why? Why does everybody else gotta experience nature? Oh, I know. But hay fever and dust out there. Okay. Okay. Hay fever. Well, so that that's what I'm saying. The point was is that, like, I've like, I think that you have to make a distinction somewhere around what is your preference, and then, like, how much that should that can be asserted across multiple areas, especially when there's an option. Like, if that guy likes it hotter, like, shut the vent in your room. He could shut the vent in his room for multiple hours. Let his room heat up if he wants to Yeah. And then go sit in it. So, like, you have if you're gonna be the odd guy out, like,

maybe you should take the responsibility of living uniquely. But, like, it's just odd, I think, to take that preference and then kind of assert it upon upon others. Especially if it's not even reasonable. Especially if it's so high. You say 78. 78 is ridiculous. It don't make any sense. Okay. It's just ridiculously high. Okay. So here's what we're gonna do. Hey. Thanks for listening to Life From The Path. We appreciate it. Here's what I want you to do. At the Bob Eisenhower complaint line, Bob was just voted top realtor. Again? Yeah. Top realtor for, I don't know, a million years in a row. Yeah. Bob does great work. Anyway, the Bob Eisenhower complaint line, That's (515) 517-0085. You can call or text (515) 517-0085. First of all, what temperature do keep your house? Yeah. Like, winter, summer if you gotta make the distinction. So I'll give I'll give it away. I think at normally, we're 74

during the summer, 72 at night. It goes down two at night. And then at the wintertime, we're probably the other direction, like 68, 69. Wait minute. Do you wear blankets when you sleep? Some some some people in the house do, some people do not. You turn the air down and then put blankets on? Yeah. Again, this is this I this is the woman I married. She's this is the window down person. She lives has takes in the world uniquely in the skin. I don't know. I don't know how it goes on the way it does. Okay. So what do you keep yours? Straight 72 all the time? No. I like to fiddle with it. I let it go I let it go to 77 when I'm not at the house, and then I crank it down to 71. You just said that that's not the right way to do it. I know. It's foolish, but I have too lazy to change it. That's the thing with them thermostats. Once once you don't told them what to do, they are they run the yard. Yeah. And then I move the thermostat like it's got an occupancy sensor on it, so it knows where somebody walks past it, and they're like, hey. Fire the air on. People are home. But I put it in an inconspicuous area that nobody walks past, and so it tries to shut off all the time on me because it doesn't take anybody's home. You don't know how to deal with technology correctly. Now my here's the thing. My wife does not like to see how the house works. It's her pet peeve.

Like, she wants it to do cool things, but does not wanna see the inner workings of it. Like, does not wanna go to your house and see that you own a DVD player. It's gotta be in a drawer. It's gone somewhere. Okay. Yeah. The thermostat, she don't wanna see it. Right? It's gotta be it's gotta be doing its job, but she don't wanna have eyes on it. What about, like, light switches and stuff? Does she want, like, as discreet as possible? So so you could have no switches and just stay all occupancy or Bluetooth on the phone. You'd be fine with that. She don't wanna see how things work. Don't wanna see cords. Hates cords. Cords for lamps, cords for TVs. Nothing. She don't like cords. Okay. She don't wanna see it operating. Okay. Dan, what what temperature do keep your house? 72 all the time. Straight up. Dan does not even jack with it. Don't even mess it. 70 hey. I'm I'm I'm on board with Dan. Yeah. Simple living. That's the way to do it. Nathaniel just watered his house. Yeah. I just used water. I put it at 69, and then my wife will turn it up, and then I'll put it back at a 69. You'd like to keep a Well, wait. Chili home. Wait. Right now, it's 69 degrees at your house? Yeah. I I mean, probably not because I'm not home. Yeah. Oh, your wife's turned it up. But now, did your wife do it for comfort purposes or she tries to save a nickel? I think both, I think. She's comfortable saving nickels? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here's the thing. It's like there's a I'm not a I'm not a frugal man.

There are some things that I wouldn't mind saving money on, but I I don't pull any punches when it comes to heating and air conditioning. I mean, I installed all this stuff. You know, mister seventy two, Dan's like, no. Nope. Nope. You know how much money you have invested in this already? Like, certain kind of siding, reboosting your your insulation in your attic and your walls. You spent like, when the house was built, a lot of a lot of time and attention was paid to try to keep the conditioned air in, and it wasn't designed like a house was from the early nineteen hundreds where it was made for breeze. Right? Like like older houses, all the windows are set up to let it breeze in and it breeze out. Yeah. And like like set up to cool on its own mostly. And houses these days are built tight, and so they don't leak any air. And then you decide you ain't gonna put no you're you're not gonna even condition the stuff that's in here. I I think you should just burn it. Yeah. I actually so when we get those nasty grams from the from the power company, they're like, hey, you could save a $120 a year. I'm like, $10 a month? Okay. You're telling me I can live however I want in in in luxurious temperature all the time for $10? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've you've actually encouraged me the other direction. I say, why would I wanna save a $120 a year? I'd really go for broke care. Well, I'll I'll spend 15 a month, and I will just tune this thing way down. Yeah. Yeah. It's not yeah. They've not convinced me. It's it's gone the other direction. Okay.

Anyway, so you're gonna first of all, what are gonna tell us? What what do you keep your house at? I'm interested. Summer, winter. Number two, the so the the the prayer stuff. Like, if if we can be praying for you, even if it's just, hey, I need prayer on prayer, we'd be glad to do that. It's just it's something that I think we're we're gonna focus on, and we'd love to be able to, you know, walk along signing that thing. Also, that article is on the Christian Post. So if you wanted that list, if that's helpful for you, then that's great. You can go to christianpost.com, and there's a list of 21 ways to something about your prayer life. I think that's it. We really do appreciate hanging out. Oh, hey. We we got a we finally showed up on iTunes. For with reviews. With reviews. Like, you have to have so many reviews before you even show up. It's been ten years or whatever. It's gonna show up like we got this will be episode number 200

that comes out on on iTunes, and we finally we're on the docket. We're on the board. And so, anyway, thank you. Hey. That means you guys have gone out and you've reviewed the show, and and that wasn't me. I don't I don't use an iOS device. Mike, did you review the show? No. Dan? Nope. Nope. Nathaniel? No. Okay. Hey. Look at that. You guys are great. Thanks for thanks for doing that. We really do appreciate it. If you haven't done it, if you wouldn't mind reviewing the show, it just again, it crosses it just causes thresholds where things become a little bit more visible for people to to maybe catch on the show or stumble upon it. And, like, whatever. I think that would be great if that happens. If you left, left us a kind review, we really do appreciate it. Someone who wasn't Mike's wife, apparently Yeah. Thank you. Left a nice view. Thank you. Review and, like, super humbling. We we thank you for that. So if you wouldn't mind doing that this week for us, just giving us a rating on the show and whatever your podcast app is. We'd be super grateful for it, and we appreciate you guys that have already done in the meantime, we're aiming to be back next week. In the meantime, be faithful in the means. God will handle the ends. You've been listening to Live From The Path.

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