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Interview June 25, 2012 · 25:12 · 18 min

Interview: calling, humility, and the rock-pushing story

The conversation turns to calling and humility in ministry: the struggling Christian band booking gigs, the David-and-Samuel story (the shepherd boy called to be king while feeding sheep), and the Sisyphus-like rock-pushing story — we quit pushing because it seems stupid, but if we stop, Jesus catches us; he is 'a big rock pusher.' The hosts land on doing God's work humbly, 'back on my knees, let's go through Ephesians,' with the Holy Spirit tapping the shoulder.

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