Hard question: talking to a believer who has quit church

• How do you talk to someone who says they are a believer but does not go to church anymore?

The host addressed on-air as Bubba (Boova) poses the episode's hard question: how do you talk to someone who says they believe in God and Jesus but thinks the church is irrelevant and old-fashioned? The hosts answer as a group: one argues belief without submission is belief in an 'idea of god,' not God as Lord, and that the church was God's idea; another distinguishes the church as the bride of Christ from the church as an event or organization; others note that hurt, bad experiences, or a preference for produced 'show' church can drive people away, and that smaller community formats still count as church. The discussion closes with comic church stories (falling asleep and waking oneself up with a bodily function during a service, a 'Mike Foose' seating warning, a snoring anecdote).