The 80/20 question begins: inactive believers and spiritual gifts

• How do you find people willing to do the unglamorous serving jobs, like janitors?

The hosts ask why so many churchgoers believe in Jesus but do nothing, blaming pastor-centric churches that train people to sit while staff do everything. They debate pastors who assign people to ungifted roles (the nursery example) versus serving from giftedness, recalling a spiritual-gifts sermon series preached years ago in Atlantic. The guy scrubbing the toilet and the guy preaching are declared equally serving God. Short-term 'somebody has to do it' work gets an honest carve-out.