Reasons 3-4: fool's errand and the system needs losers

Piper's reason three (a fool's errand: infinitesimal odds) draws pushback from the guest, who argues that 'don't try because the odds are long' would kill every musician and athlete. The hosts concede the point stands only inside the lottery's adversarial context, and fold reason four (the system needs most people to lose) into the same thread.