'The Beauty,' Polynesian navigators, and the candy riff

Acres explains the imagery behind 'The Beauty': his wife as his anchor after she traveled early in their marriage, and the album opener 'Nowhere Home,' which pictures a Polynesian long-distance navigator casting off alone — the album's most obscure reference, per the hosts. The conversation veers into Ben and Mike's old Des Moines indie-film audition story (landing an unpaid gas-station-robbery extra role and writing a drumsticks-on-a-stool 'soundtrack'), a Moana joke, and an extended riff on Clark bars and cherry mash candy.