How hard the fight is, and the parking-lot phone call

A host reflects at length that recovery is a war: environment, relationships, and a body fighting against you all at once, comparable to a divorce where the thing you leaned on is gone. Robbie says he educates churches on what addiction really looks like, including non-drug addictions: a man dropped off his laptop at Robbie's door after video games ruined his eight-year marriage. He recounts a 2 a.m.-style phone call from a man in a parking lot being offered a hit who called instead of using, and says that two-minute conversation may have saved the man's life.