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Interview November 28, 2017 · 32:34 · 11 min

Changed perspective: daughters, Francis Chan, and God-sized goals

Asked what has changed for him working with Wings of Refuge, Nate says having a daughter made it real, and he wants restoration to exist for the lives he cannot personally protect. He shares the Francis Chan quote that changed his perspective: the church should stop worrying about failure and start worrying about succeeding at things that don't matter. A host adds that a $750,000 goal forces dependence on God rather than being 'doable.'

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