The thirteen apostles: Matthias or Paul as the twelfth

• Is Matthias or Paul the true twelfth apostle?

Boova recounts writing the names of the '13 apostles' in his youth Bible — Judas plus Matthias plus Bartholomew — before learning Bartholomew was one of the original twelve. The hosts debate whether Matthias, chosen by lot in Acts, is the true twelfth apostle or whether Peter was 'jumping the gun' and Paul is the real twelfth.