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March 23, 2020 · 38:30 · 4 min

The church as anchor: to live is Christ, to die is gain

A host asks why the church is not the anchor in this moment - so what if we all die? To live is Christ, to die is gain - and the hosts agree panic betrays the faith, while warning against the false anchor of posturing that God will protect Christians from the virus: every Bible writer died, and claiming divine immunity makes the church look foolish when a Christian grandpa dies of COVID. The segment closes with the hosts agreeing not to make the whole show about the virus going forward.

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