Copeland's wind of God and the fallen-world debate

The hosts react to a viral video of Kenneth Copeland rebuking COVID-19, blowing the wind of God at it while his congregation repeats him, and to a TikTok pile-on treating the clip as representative Christianity. They touch on Franklin Graham's fallen-world comment and recall the televangelist era, Jesse Duplantis, Oral Roberts, and Robert Tilton, and how old TBN-style programming shaped the public image of the faith.