Survey stats and the unqualified pastor's do-no-harm plan

Ben reads the survey stats (47% of mainline pastors say Christians' political partisanship reflects poorly on the church; 17% worry congregants are dissatisfied regardless). John notes churches settle for warm bodies without gifts for the role. Ben's advice for an unqualified pastor: do no harm — open the Bible, read it, pray over it, let the congregation pray, and sit down; the Word carries. The apostles were blue-collar fishermen, and the hosts contrast ancient complaints with modern ones.