'Seven common Christian beliefs that aren't in the Bible' #1: Satan was once Lucifer
- Was Satan once Lucifer, a fallen angel?
The hosts walk a BeliefNet article by Stephanie Hertzenberg. Item one claims 'Satan was once Lucifer' rests on a translation issue: the devil's fall comes largely from Milton's Paradise Lost, and Luke 10:18 and Revelation 12 never say Satan was an angel. A host argues the Ezekiel/Isaiah 'king of Babylon' star-fall passages are about empire collapse, not a literal angelic fall — 'things that were at heights have fallen' — with a Genesis 6 Nephilim tangent and Job's Satan 'walking to and fro' as counter-evidence. Dan holds the traditional Lucifer view ('Dan loves it'); the room logs him as holding belief #1.
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'It's not a religion, it's a relationship': framing the big question
- Does God want a relationship with you - and if so, what do we actually mean by it?
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- Will there be bison (animals) in heaven?
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Are UFOs and aliens real?
- Why are pastors talking about UFOs?
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