Minivan flooring story and the Jesus Christ Superstar debate

A host tells of stacking his minivan with free laminate flooring for the ministry center, then sleeping on the three-foot stack overnight rather than drive home between meetings — 'Don't buy a van.' A Kia Optima alarm-clock story leads into Jesus Christ Superstar: the London recording's second disc is 'hit and miss,' and the apostles are portrayed as 'big Nancys' — debated with Andrew, Peter, and James and John as examples, plus Peter's denial after following 'at a distance' and getting stopped by a servant girl. The hosts joke about meeting Peter in heaven: 'I will contend that we were saved by the same grace — and then I'll shove him.'