The Driscoll men's-conference story is introduced

Ben introduces the main story: Mark Driscoll was invited to speak at the Stronger Men's Conference at James River Church in Springfield, Missouri, where a shirtless man was sword-swallowing while climbing a pole as entertainment. Driscoll took the mic and called it an Asherah pole and a Jezebel spirit; the pastor removed him from the stage and later said Driscoll should have brought it to him privately per Matthew 18. Ben notes there is not one sane party in the conversation, only parties with varying degrees of being right.