Closing the letter: family conversations and manipulation
Ben and Mike close out the letter discussion. Mike argues the letter confuses family conversations — the church talking to believers about how to live — with public conversations, and that he sorts people by whether they 'smell like Jesus' rather than by labeled sins. Ben unpacks the letter's rhetorical manipulation (pairing LGBTQ with 'abused widows'), notes Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus were in the ruling class, and contrasts the church's massive real-world care for unwed mothers, orphans, and adoptees with the letter's caricature.
More on Church
-
Church, emotions, and the self-focus of affluence
- How do you help people in an affluent, self-focused culture see that they need Jesus?
Ben revives a question from two or three shows back: are church services and worship tunes postured toward certain personality types — predominantly emotions and dealing with emotions?
From No. 603 · Found Out
-
Leadership training for church leaders: get a business manager
- Do people who lead churches need leadership training?
Mike's real question: to what extent do people need leadership training to lead churches? Ben gives two distinct answers.
From No. 602 · Relationship Counseling
-
The New Testament case for human shaping
- What does the New Testament actually say about spiritual authority and submission?
Ben walks the New Testament texts: Hebrews 13:17 ('obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls') presumes a soul-watching laborer, not a rule-maker;…
From No. 600 · Rage The Elephant
-
Confetti and lasers: what should God's people be known for?
- Do we want to be known as the confetti and lasers people?
- What should God's people be known for?
Ben redirects to the docket's denomination question: when someone hears Silas's church described as 'the confetti and lasers people,' should that sting?
From No. 598 · Emphasis | Accountability, Worship and Praying with Strangers