Religion vs. relationship: what does "relationship with Jesus" mean?

• What does it mean to have a relationship with Jesus?

Ben reframes to the religion-not-relationship question: cliches like "just give it to Jesus" and "let go and let God" tell a struggling person nothing concrete. The hosts press on James 1:27 (religion as caring for people — action), Paul's letter to Colossae ("walk in wisdom"; "all things were created by him, for him, and in him"), and the idea that the religion/relationship split is really about whether faith is your life rather than something you attend.