News: megachurch cuts non-essential members; the freeloading Christian debate
- When is it right to stop pouring time and resources into someone who keeps saying yes to Jesus but never changes?
From the news desk: Faith Community of Winston-Salem sent letters asking non-participating members to volunteer, tithe, and join a small group or worship elsewhere — a story the hosts debate at length. Troy is on the fence, Mike is against it, and Nathaniel is for it. They argue over fruits of the Spirit as evidence of faith, whether a church can judge participation without becoming the judge, and when a person should stop pouring into someone who keeps saying yes to Jesus but never changes. Troy's closer: plant the seed; you can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink (jokingly attributed to Philippians, then corrected).
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Confetti and lasers: what should God's people be known for?
- Do we want to be known as the confetti and lasers people?
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