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Hard question January 14, 2013 · 13:26 · 16 min

Responding to proof 31: free will, and does prayer move the hand of God?

  • Can our prayers change what God does — do they move the hand of God?

The hosts dismantle the proof's false premises: God gave free will, and we can't count the evils he prevented. Bob Eisenlauer notes each proof is 90% garbage with a gem or two of real discussion. Bob poses the honest question — praying for his grandma in hospice, do our prayers change anything? The hosts answer from Moses interceding for Israel, the prayers of the saints as incense in Revelation, and Jesus' teaching that earthly fathers give good gifts. They frame prayer as relationship, not just requests — conversational thanks, catharsis, being bent toward God's will — and picture Gethsemane's answer as 'I can't do that, son,' grounded in God's bigger perspective and absolute morality. The proof gets a 'mulligan' and is granted no victory.

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