The danger of a humble and effective pope

• What is the potential problem with an effective and humble pope?

A host asks: what is the potential problem with an effective and humble pope? Noting the positive reaction to Pope Francis — humility, ground-level outreach, less hierarchy, action on abuse scandals — he argues the danger is not the pope's fault: if the strength of your faith depends on the goodness of a human being, it will always fail you, because every good man is also a sinful man who will fail. Supporting points: 'for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God'; faith rests on how good God is, not how good a man is; leaders are fallible and must be prayed for, and believers should filter leaders' words through Scripture rather than building faith on personalities. The block closes with comedy about inviting the pope on the show with Fritos.