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August 4, 2013 · 18:57 · 5 min

Guest Pope-style advice: Nate Herrera on spiritual maturity

Guest Nate Herrera, thanked on-air for dropping by the studio, shares the best recent wisdom he received: spiritual maturity is not about time passing but about how much of one's life a person is willing to give up for Christ. The hosts agree: transformation requires taking up the cross daily rather than merely attending church or wearing a 'Jesus costume'. The segment includes a comedy riff mocking a 'creepy' phrase coined on the spot, 'the umbrella of the cloud of the Holy Spirit'.

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